Fuck....early viewers are saying it's good. What do we

Is this really how you chose to spend your free time?

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Damn, what am I supposed to do with my Evans shoops now, /co/? My boss is going to fire me for not shilling hard enough.

What if it's actually good and we admit it's good and stop being autistic about it.

What if the DCEU and MCU both coexist with solid movies.

>>92791455
Nice false flagging, companywarfag.

>>92791492
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>92791455

This is not accurated

I hope it's good, but I don't trust early viewers. I'm curious what rotten tomatoes will say on the 31st

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>>92791492
NOOOOOOOOOO IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

>>92791455
Just gonna keep making this thread huh

>>92791492
DELETE THIS

>>92791492
DELETE THIS

>replying to bait instead of reporting and hiding

This is why /co/ will always be a shit board. You faggots could learn something from /jp/.

It's gonna be worse than BvS, better than Suicide Squad and about as good as Man of Steel. That's my prediction.

>>92791492
MODS BAN THIS MAN RIGHT NOW

>>92791492
We don't deal in impossibles here

If it's "good" than it's "good" for the same reason girlbusters is "good" and Iron Fist is "bad"

>>92791519
God bless this manocentric maleocracy.

>>92791580
>this coming from a reddit spacer

>>92791455

As someone who prefers Marvel, I don't care if WW is good. Hell, I relish it.

If it means DC goes back to doing origin stories for at least half of a crossover cast BEFORE doing the crossover (which will inevitably be terrible, as there is no prior behaviour or backstory to build on), then cool.

Maybe Hellboy 3 will be uncancelled if the DC films pick back up, and act as a catalyst for the superior Darkhorse comic films.

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>>92791583
>It's gonna be worse than BvS
Of course it's going to be worse than the absolute peak of the genre.

>>92791492
Delete this fucking post.

>>92791641
Hello OP.

>>92791455
It will mean that people who pretend that RT just hates DC movies will have to confront their delusion.

>>92791455

> Fuck....early viewers are saying it's good.

Review Embargoes

The studios only allow the positive reviews to be released first.

Regardless, I suspect reviewers will be falling over each other to praise this film like what happened to the last Ghostbusters movie.

>>92791613
>strawmanning this furiously
(you)

>>92791662
Try again

>>92791669
RT doesn't hate DC. The numale feminist bloggers that get on RT hate Zach Snyder. They'll give WW a fresh for sure, as long as there's no whitewashing.

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Man, why the fuck DCEUfags are so fucking insecure? Seriously, the worst fucking live action fandom of this board.

Why this constant need of validation?

>>92791714
Rev up those Evans gifs friend. You have a long night ahead of you.

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Hahahahahhahahaahah

>>92791714
The worst by far are the unironic MCU defenders that show up in every thread and attack you for every single criticism you have. I'm still trying to figure out if they're shilling or pretending to shill.

>>92791455
>if its good
hooray, the dc movies have finally stopped being miserable garbage fires
>if its bad
the cycle continues
also, epic falseflag. really shows that the dc fags are the only ones actually interested in this bullshit /v/ company wars thing.
how about we just watch some good movies together?

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Behold, the billboard-worthy publications!

>>92791455
Its okay Marvelbro. We're already spamming IMDB with bad reviews.

>>92791743
>how about we just watch some good movies together?
I've been trying to, but Marvel has done nothing but shit since becoming Disney puppets.

>>92791749
Nice. Fuck DC and fuck Trump.

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>>92791669
RT doesn't hate DC

EVERYONE does

>>92791714
They're a cancer and need to be removed

>>92791455
DCUfag LARPing as "Marvelshill"

literally no one gives a fuck about the studio wars than DCfag autistic 13 year olds. Go to Hot Topic for a spell, and take a deep breath and you'll be fine.

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>>92791769
If you want to post undeserved scores, why not Dr Strange?

>>92791455
quality

>>92791769
So we're going to take the "RT doesn't matter" route?

>>92791743
>really shows that the dc fags are the only ones actually interested in this bullshit /v/ company wars thing.
That's some serious irony, anon.

>>92791492
you've gone too far, anon

MODS

>>92791774
Hello OP.

>>92791782
Welcome to March 14th

>>92791774
Marvel comics are hot garbage and /co/ is for comics, not capeshit.

>>92791815
How dare you

I would never pretend to like DC

>>92791519
>this meme again
I'm getting de javu.

Fuck Marvelbros.....I'm so fucking scared......what will I do with my Evans folder?......

If any DC character deserves to be the first, genuinely great non-Batman related film then it's fucking Diana.

If FOX can get their shit together with the X-Men, DC can as well.

I got faith.

I don't care. I can't get to a movie theater anyway because my car is broken. I still haven't seen Guardians and at this point I may end up missing it in theaters.

>>92791920
Yondu dies

>>92791782
We'll shitpost about high RT scores just as readily as low ones.

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10 HOURS UNTIL OP KILLS HERSELF

>>92791455
What kind of idiot would ever want a movie to be bad?

>>92791973
This. Marvel shills will be slitting their throats starting at midnight tonight.

>>92791492
You think people care about the actual quality of the product here?

Nah. Good movie, bad movie, we'll shitpost nevertheless. We only care about how many people we can piss off, how many threads we can ruin and how much space we can take up with our shitposting.

>>92792034
This. We are legion. Don't like it? Fuck off.

It's not fucking fair

>>92791492
>wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg

>>92791492

we need more people like you, anon.

>>92792017
Hello OP.

>>92791492
MOOOOOOOODS

>>92791940
Yeah and Diana skips out World War 2 because she approves of the holocaust or something.
Who gives a shit. I just need to be entertained for a couple hours so that I can momentarily forget about the unmitigated bleakness of my life.

>>92792496
who hurt you

>>92792719
Life

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>>92791641

Yes, it's indeed also gonna be worse than Batman Returns but that's beside the point.

isnt she basically bullet proof?

why does need needs the bracelets and shield?

>terrible franchise finally produces a good movie

Wow, WB's finally catching up with Fox.

>>92792914
shield to protect other people
she slams her bracelets together to make an EMP wave thing

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>>92792920
Not sure if you remember because you were probably 5 years old at the time but the Nolan trilogy was pretty much the only good capeshit during the 00's.

>>92792995
I saw Spawn in the theaters.

I remember the real old dark ages of capeshit.

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Many reviews of Lady Ghostbusters said the same thing. If a reviewer doesn't want to be branded as a misogynist, they'd better fall in line.

>>92793039
DRUMPF BTFO

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>>92793039
You mean the same way BvS was branded fascist?

But you won't give that to BvS, will you?

>>92791455
Falseflag OP aside, early viewers loved B VS S too

>>92793123
and that ended up being good, what's your point?

>>92793082

This will never not make me angry. Why does this idiot call a movie that's extremely critical of racism, capitalism, collectivism and moral elitism like BvS fascist while probably giving shlock produced by Trump lackeys like Perlmutter and Iger a pass?

>>92791973
>her

pls be in Paris

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Reminder

>>92793172
The genius of BvS is how well it predicts its own media response. A self-fulfilling prophecy if you so will.

On one hand, I'm happy DC has made a good movie even if I have my reservations about it.

On the other hand, shitposting is about to go into MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE and I'm not entirely sure if I'm ready for that.

>>92793191
I will never stop being baffled by the people who loved Suicide Squad. How bad can someone's taste be?

I'm still hopeful for Wonder Woman though.

>>92793260
it's almost like normies like any capeshit shat onto their lap

>>92791746
>all these no-name publications
>none of them even gave 4 stars
kek

>>92793191
it won an oscar

Wait til I see it to form an opinion and not take reviewers opinions as fact?

RT scores can be funny, but never a true judge on what I'm gonna like.

>>92793204

Suppose so. I just find it a bit depressing. It's obvious that the general audience that's gonna expect a generic superhero flick is gonne be dissapointed but professional critics should be able to take a step back, turn on their brain and ask themselves "Wait, what's actually being conveyed here?"

I mean, it's not like the subtext is so incredibly vague and obtuse that you need to be a film scholar to get it.

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>>92793315

>>92793413
I hope you don't actually believe BvS has subtext that actually merit discussion. One of the main criticisms is how enamorated by its own depth the movie is while exploring surface-level ideas that they don't even commit to in the end.

>implying this will get above 18% on RT from both audiences and critics combined
As expected of DC. Always pretending they're at the top when in reality they're groveling at Marvel's feet, begging them to share at least some of the market. It's pathetic, really.

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Regardless of how bad Wonder Woman is I doubt it will be received worse than Suicide Squad or Snyder's films were.
People don't care about Wonder Woman as a character, they care about what she stands for (muh female empowerment and whatnot). She is not popular, she is iconic. As long as the movie has enough sequences of Gal Gadot flying around and punching men in the face, people are going to be fine with it. She can't act for shit, the movie looks terrible, but who cares ?
Do you really see people getting up in arms because of a Wonder Woman movie like they did with BvS or MoS ? Of course not. The only people that care are DCtards who've been praying for a critical success since MoS and the people that genuinely want this movie to fail so they can mock them and DC. Audiences don't care.
Not to mention the whole "if you don't like it you are sexist" thing. Feminism is the driving force behind this movie and everyone knows it.

Really, it's guaranteed to be at least a 50% on RT. It could be Catwoman-tier for all we know but it's definitely getting a higher score than the last DC movies based on these factors.
And for the DCEU children that spam this board with their company wars, a 50% is enough reason to yell KINO and MARVELFAGS BTFO.

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>>92793490
BvS has more substance to it than the entire MCU put together. And it does so through tell by show, as any well-made film should be doing. It doesn't tell you straight why Batman is fucked up. You're supposed to put the pieces together yourself observing what they SHOW you.

A far cry from the level of filmmaking found in Marvel where if Iron Man is sad, then you'll be sure that Cap America will point it out so the people who focus test the film give it an A score for understanding the story. BvS was not made like that. It wasn't made with the intention of being retard-proof. It tells by showing. A basic principle of filmmaking that is today lost amidst poor hammy dialogue and lack of faith in audiences.

>>92793519
I agree with this. Though I've already seen it getting some online backlash from hardcore feminists due to "heteronormative narratives" and "mansplaining" and whatnot.

I expect a lot of people triggered over the plot twist.

>>92793519
Holy hell you sound mad. I call this preemptive damage control.

>>92793595
>It doesn't tell you straight why Batman is fucked up.
I don't think we can even agree that he is.

>>92793595
Disregarding Marvel entirely, I seriously pity you if you think BvS is a good film. It fails spectacularly on every conceivable level

>>92793595
Yep, the part where Lex Luthor designed logos for all of the Justice League was pure kino

>>92793682
You are a sad fuck and it shows how desperate you are to defend your shitty MCU flicks given how eager you are to shove them aside in this argument comparing the films. You don't even say anything. You just whine and hope MCU isn't mentioned because of it being an abortion of film series.

>>92793490

It's not particulary deep but yeah, it's there, and reviews like the one describing it as fascist make it quite clear that even that went over professional critics head which is... depressing, to say the least.

I mean, it's not fucking Holy Mountain. It's a movie about pulpy comic book heroes and the ideologies they represent and how they relate to out current sociopolitical climate.

>>92793595
I pity the children with low standards that watch an extended commercial for the Justice League movie and go "wow, this is truly a fine example of cinema, and everyone else is too dumb to understand such sublime filmmaking".

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>>92793519
Unfortunately, this is probably true

>>92793595
Nobody mentioned the MCU. And even if someone did, you'd be still be wrong. Considering a lot of the movie consists of characters monologuing about their motivations. But credit to the writer for trying masking all that exposition with religious imagery and overwrought metaphors.

I don't have BvS, it's a good Batman movie buried under an awful Superman movie, but the lenghts fans go to convince themselves it is anything but run-of-the-mill capeshit is baffling.

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>>92793736
*goes back to watching Civil War*

>>92793724
the ideological clash (or lack thereof) between Batman and Superman was the worst part of the movie

we could have gotten something really good but instead it's just Lex pulling all the strings only to be foiled by Batman having a mental breakdown when he learns that their mothers have the same name

>>92793666
You don't need to be so defensive, Satan,
I'm just pointing out how WW is inevitably going to be better received regardless of quality. I'm not even shitting on it.
Why don't you go whine about how BvS is "underappreciated kino" some more ?

>>92793719
>You have this opinion, so you must be one of them!

Who's desperate?

>>92793739
MCU is bound to be compared to considering it's now the "standard" capeshit after Avengers. And no, I wouldn't be wrong. BvS operates on a whole different level than the MCU. I think even MCU directors have admitted so, praising Snyder's visual language while MCU's visual language consists of what focus groups tell them to show and tell.

One film is made by an artist with a vision, the other by design-by-committee focus tests with the intention of keeping viewer audience through the film. What you prefer is up to you. I'm just telling you the difference.

>>92793682
Notice how the shill talks in vague language and never provides any real criticism. It's always "it sucks because it SUCKS!" with them. They can never provide evidence. This is because every single scene in BvS is good and the cinematography is always top notch. Wonder why there are so many webms of bad MCU scenes but never ones of bad BvS scenes? Because there are none. Snyder knows how to keep the camera steady and doesn't rely on cheap jumpy shots to trick the audience into thinking action is happening. He cares about the product and actually shows what's going on.

>>92793780
Look man I like a good meme as much as the next guy but Batman has a breakdown not when he realizes their mothers have the same name, but rather when he realizes that Clark is essentially human, like all the other guys he's killed in this movie, which is fine because Batman has killed before in comics like The Dark Knight Returns. So get your facts straight.

>>92793780
There is definitely an ideological clash between Batman and Superman where Superman comes out the victor.

Rewatch the film. You missed the point. But I don't blame you. After all, BvS is all about telling through showing.

>>92791455
>it's the OP has convinced himself he's being a faggot ironically episode

>>92793815
that's what I thought too but Batman explicitly mentions Superman's parents while beating him up so that sort of ruined that for me if it was supposed to be this one pure moment that Superman is a man like everyone else

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>>92793759
>F-FUCK OFF MARVESHILL
>YOU HAVE TO BE IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME
Like clockwork

>>92791492
Stop trying to be reasonable you commonsensefag!

>>92793864
When Batman hears Martha’s name he is snapped back to the moment of his parents’ death and realises that he wasn’t the hero who was going to save the world from a dangerous alien, he was the man who was about to take a boy away from his mother. He was about to become the very thing he had fought against all his life and what had caused him to become Batman in the first place. Even though he was ready to kill Superman before, he had never thought of himself in terms of his parents’ killer and instead saw Superman as the killer. He lost his parents to a shooter “for no reason at all”, he lost Robin to the Joker (chaos) and he lost his last family, his employees to the Kryptonians’ war (that emerged out of nowhere).

But now he realised that he had things the other way around and that Superman was the victim and the man with a family, a mother and people that he loved and whom he was trying to save and was helpless to save at that moment. He saw things for what they really were: Superman was the boy about to lose his mother to a madman and that boy was helpless to save her. That is why when he realises all of this he throws the spear away in anger at what he had let himself become.

When Batman is faced with this reality he doesn't just come back from the edge and become good again, he manages to FINALLY come to terms with the loss he suffered for 30 years. By getting a chance to save Martha, he can finally do something that allows him to cope with his loss, which 20 years of fighting criminals and stopping evil couldn't do. It also reinstills faith in him that what he did for 20 years WASN’T a waste and that "what falls" ISN'T "fallen" permanently and that his life as Batman WASN'T just "a beautiful lie". This is proven at the end of the movie when he says, “Men are still good, we fight, we kill, we betray one another, but we can rebuild, we can do better, we will, we have to.”

>>92793864
He thought those parents were aliens, I guess.

>>92793900
>he was the man who was about to take a boy away from his mother.
He'd already done that. But it's okay because he really wanted that kryptonite and couldn't just steal it using stealth.

>>92793833
>Superman doesn't like Batman because of his vigilantism and violence but lets him off with a warning
>Batman hates Superman because he's a dangerous alien who accidentally wrecked a city
>Batman gets manipulated by Lex with the "YOU LET YOUR FAMILY DIE" shit
>Superman is literally blackmailed into fighting Batman because of Martha
There's only hints of the ideological battle but in the end it's just Lex that forces the fight. Then again, seeing as they did this verses movie so fucking early in the DCEU, it might have been the only thing they could have done

>>92793900
If Batman's redemption comes with MARTHA, why does he go on and murder another dozen of people right after that?

>>92791455
>What do we do if this gets a certified fresh?
Feminist Agenda

>>92793833
>But I don't blame you.
Why not? Snyder has been too kind to the audience that rejects him. He should disregard the retards and focus on his core fanbase. No more handholding. No amount of help will let them understand the movie, so why waste precious seconds on something that will end up being useless? Just ignore them.

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>>92794001
Yes, Lex being able to exploit Batman's weakness is part of the story and also why Lex being a philantropist is in truth just a psycopath with sway over weak people. You want a film where Lex is useless. That's fine. But he's not in this one. He masterfully pits the two together by exploiting the weaknesses of each ideology to the extreme, pushing the buttons that matter knowing exactly what response he'll get.

>>92794012
Ooh ooh! I know this one!
"Because he wasn't truly convinced that men were still good until Clark sacrificed himself to stop Doomsday".

Snyder wanted to show the only real way to affect change in people's lives was to kill yourself, I guess.

>>92793815
>>92793900
The biggest problem I have with this scene is literally "MARTHA"

Why the fuck would Superman refer to his mom as Martha and make those his last words before Batman skewered him? Saying "Lex has my mother" or something like that would have been so much more natural

>>92793964
Or how he marked people and it was quoted as a death sentence by mainstream news, meaning he probably knew that leaving his mark on a criminal would mean he would get killed by other criminals in the joint.

>>92793805
No, you're telling us your headcannon to justify liking a bad movie without having to admit it's bad.

>>92794069
The issue is that in order to make Lex useful, they made Bruce useless. But you're free to disagree.

>>92794012
He doesn't murder them. They were bad people in his way trying to save an innocent mother from being burned alive. They had what was coming to them. A murder implies the absense of self-defense or defense of others.

>>92791476

>>92791455
You're a faggot, kill yourself. There's nothing wrong with a movie being good, that just makes it feel like less of a ripoff when you see it.

>>92794069
>He masterfully pits the two together by exploiting the weaknesses of each ideology to the extreme, pushing the buttons that matter knowing exactly what response he'll get.
Okay, for Batman maybe (the director's cut made this much clearer, the original had jack shit) but he literally just kidnaps Superman's mom to get him to fight

>>92794126
>*spares Joker and Harley Quinn multiple times after they murdered Robin and most likely threatened other lives*

>>92794168
Why would Batman murder Joker when there was no need to? I just explained to you why he isn't a murderer and you're complaining that he isn't a murderer. We don't know how Robin died.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67FNxy8I0nU
>every DC movie has had an incredible soundtrack
>every Marvel movie save for the Avengers theme and two tracks from TWS has had garbage soundtracks
Why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXsUlqaWr3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9BL59uiAz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o03yu28MCL8

>>92794205
>*spares evil genius that caused the death of dozens and almost of the entire planet*
>*deploys super advanced and lethal murder plane against faceless gooks*

>>92794266
>my tastes are fact
>your tastes are at best, shilling

Personally I think Zimmer phoned it in with the DCEU stuff. The best Superman theme remains Williams and in general the rule that they need trumpets holds true, and Arkham City had a better score than anything associated with Batman in the DCEU. Inb4 the ad homimen rejoinder.

>>92794298
What makes the murderer? When he kills when it's not absolutely neccessary. Those men were in Batman's way of stopping Martha from being burned alive. From what I remember of SS, nobody was in danger when Batman was catching Joker.

>>92794326
Holy shit Marvel shills will find a way to literally defend anything.

DCEU films have good scores. This isn't up to debate.

>>92794298
Snyder has always had a problem with understanding Red Shirts.

>>92794266
>>92794326
So what are each character's themes? I guess the first flight song is the theme for Superman and the riff they used in BvS for Wonder Woman is hers. Was there even a theme for Batman?

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>>92794298
>gooks

Me fucked up

>>92793900
>he wasn’t the hero who was going to save the world from a dangerous alien, he was the man who was about to take a boy away from his mother
But this doesn't make Superman any less of a dangerous alien capable of destroying humanity.
This is the being, in his eyes, who murdered half of Metropolis including his friends and co-workers. This is the being who he had been training to kill for 2 years. This is the being who, if he wanted to, could wipe out all of humanity. How the fuck does his mom having the same name as Bruce's mom's change any of that?
It's not even a gradual thing, he just instantly drops the spear and then helps him get up and then calls him "his friend".
>but batman realizes Superman isn't just an inhuman monster!
But he IS an inhuman monster with godlike powers who could destroy the entire planet on a whim, just one who happens to have an adopted mother named Martha. This changes nothing. A character giving up on his entire motivation, built over the course of years, in the span of a single second, is idiotic regardless of how you put it, even if that character is supposed to be wrong (and Batman isn't wrong).
You act like this is phenomenal writing that everyone is too dumb to understand and you fail to grasp the several problems people have with this scene. Everyone understands that it's supposed to be Batman having a PTSD flashback over his parent's death, seeing himself as the killer and thus sparing Superman. What people complain about is other things, like this being a rushed resolution to an already poor and anti-climatic fight scene, the instant switch in Batman's character, the chessy "WHY DID YOU SHAY THAT NAYME", etc.

The only reason why the climax even happened is because Snyder realized Batman and Superman coincidentally had mothers with the same name and this could provide an easy way for them to end their fight.

>>92794012
Something something kino
Something something 2deep4u
Something something Marvelfag

>>92794364
>DCEU films have good scores. This isn't up to debate.

Then Marvel movies are objectively good. And that isn't up to debate either.

>>92794326
I agree that Williams' score will never be surpassed except by STAS' intro theme but BvS and especially MoS are very impressive soundtracks. They have unique textures to them and are instantly memorable all the same.
The question is: why does Marvel not even accomplish that after 15 movies? The only two tracks I can remember are the Avengers' theme and the variants of Taking a Stand from TWS.

>>92794337
>*murders everybody in TDKR because Snyder said that's how it went*

>>92794367
How about the drums at the beginning of Beautiful Lie, which are present in literally every scene with Batman

>>92794423
>The question is: why does Marvel not even accomplish that after 15 movies? The only two tracks I can remember are the Avengers' theme
And that's you. For me, the only themes I can't remember are the Thor and Hulk ones.
The First Avenger had a theme that to this day I feel was Superman's in another reality.

>>92794405
I just want to piggyback on your post and say that Superman being human is way scarier to me than him being an alien. Being human means flaws and being easily manipulated and fluid morality that can be played with. Why the hell wouldn't I be terrified of that?

>>92794476
It's an opinion held by the majority though. You fleetingly hear praise about MCU soundtracks and even then it's almost exclusively directed to TWS (though Giacchino's Spiderman might change that).
>hurr ad populum
The audiovisuals, at the very least, are meant to appeal to the masses.
>The First Avenger had a theme that to this day I feel was Superman's in another reality.
Horrid taste.

>>92794405
The film's very first scene is of "Martha". To say the film wasn't building up to it from start is dishonest claim.

>But this doesn't make Superman any less of a dangerous alien
No, but it makes him human with a mother. BvS is about Batman finding Superman's humanity and in turn his own.

>It's not even a gradual thing
Yes it is. Batman was unstable, he second-guessed himself all the time and he fought Superman thinking it was absolutely neccessary for him to kill this alien.

Consider Batman's trauma and the impact the loss of his parents had on him. And then consider Batman becoming his very worst nightmare. That disgust is what you see in the BvS climax. He hates himself because he finally sees he has become the thing he hates most in the world. It's not out of the blue as you claim. BvS is specifically a story of mothers, with the film dedicating a ton of space to the two Marthas.

Something being "rushed resolution" makes no sense when the film, as stated built up towards that climax from the very first scene. Don't blame the film you didn't catch that. Blame yourself.

>>92791739
What is dis

>>92794364
>this isn't up to debate
Well, no it isn't.
Because instead of actually putting forth an argument you just go "yuh-huh!". I can't debate what isn't there.

>>92794543
Oh, forget it

>>92794540
>It's an opinion held by the majority though.

It really isn't.

>>92794580
Yes let's debate musical scores. That's always fun. Because only on /co/ can you find shills sad enough to defend the fucking MCU TV-like scores.

>>92794405
Not even mentioning that Superman having a mom supposedly meant nothing to Bruce since a few seconds before he was mocking the idea of his parents spoiling him with promises of greatness

Why didn't Superman just TALK to Batman instead of being a useless shit and tossing him around like a ragdoll while yelling "STAY DOWN"

I mean, Batman attacked him the first time he tried to say it and Superman just seemed to give up trying to avoid fighting despite the more pressing matter of his mother being murdered

>>92794540
>The audiovisuals, at the very least, are meant to appeal to the masses.

Then why is Marvel bad for being popular with the audiences?

>>92794598
>TV-like scores.
What the fuck does that even mean, you retarded broken record?

>>92794542
What anon said doesn't mean they didn't think of Martha since the beginning

>>92794598
Not him but I don't see people caring about most orchestral movie soundtracks, period.

I never saw a single person outside of /co/ even mention MOS soundtrack in a conversation, and you know that this place is full of /tv/ shills.

>>92794542
Batman already knew he had a mother

>>92794614
>Why didn't Superman just TALK to Batman
He tried numerous but Batman wasn't having any. Batman needed to see Superman as a fragile boy, not as a demigod speaking to him from the high heavens. That only reinforced Batman's image of Superman.

>>92794540
>It's an opinion held by the majority though
That's news to me. But I guess you can just say your opinion is the majority one and that's good enough these days. Kind of like how majority opinion only counts when it benefits you.

>Horrid taste.
You really can't tell how this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xakr6EEzfw
could be attributed to Superman under different circumstances?

Let's get this over with.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13068831

>>92794642
>He tried numerous
Nah, he acted like an autist.

>>92794639
Will you believe me when I say that people went wild for the Wonder Woman track and that BvS is doing really well on the OST front in terms of sales?

However, it's been following the same path as the last 3 WB/DC shit and now I'm supposed to be optimistic because it's starring a female hero?

>>92791455
There's definitely a chance the Ghostbusters effect factors in and it's graded on a curve.

>>92794658
Why are Marvel shills so sad?

>>92794598
Yeah see, calling people shills isn't an argument. It's barely even punctuation in these threads.

>>92794642
He tried like twice at the very beginning and then just completely forgot about it even when there were multiple opportunities to do so, like when the kryptonite gas wore off. He could have just held him instead of throwing him against a wall multiple times.

You could argue that this is because the fight is important to Superman on ideological grounds but it's out of character for Superman prioritize that over saving his mother's life

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>>92794672
...yes

>>92794694
Why are DCfags so pathetic?

>>92794717
>>92794694
Why do kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch?

>>92794694
Because the MCU is all Marvel shills have.

Their comics are garbo. Their cartoons are garbo. Their video games are garbo. If it wasn't for the MCU, Marvel would be forgotten about already.

This is why they're so defensive when it comes to capeshit.

>>92794702
For the first time in his life, Superman felt pain and fear. You can hear after him being exposed to the Kryptonite gas, the Zod theme kicks in and it implies that aspect of Superman taking hold of him. He feels fear and it also makes him aggressive which is why he pushes back. But then he stops realizing what he's about to become and realizes there's no way he can win this. I must yet again stress that Batman needed to see Superman as a fragile boy screaming for his mother, not as a Demigod screaming from the high heavens commanding Batman to obey him.

>>92794620
1) I never said that. I like Marvel movies, I just hate their soundtracks.
2) I was talking strictly audiovisuals, which are meant to be audience pleasing in a big budget blockbuster
>>92794650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfqkvwW2fs
Yes, I can, but it's ridiculously generic. It doesn't have the unique sound design Zimmer/JXL implements and it's nothing near the classic Superman themes. It's smack in the middle and boring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4OdIOGBW2Q

>>92794764
That Flight theme is overwhelming.

>They will join you in the sun, Kal.

Fucking shivers all over me.

Which would result in more shitposting?

It being good or it being bad?

>>92794757
>For the first time in his life, Superman felt pain and fear.
Faggy, pretentious, and probably b8

Zod nigga, do you remember?

>>92794802
Doesn't matter if it's good or bad. The Evansfaces will fly anyways.

>>92794788
Have you listened to Wonder Woman's soundtrack? It easily stands with the rest of the DCEU. I was kind of iffy about Rupert Gregson Williams but he's proven me wrong, hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLpQ2gPyfMQ

>>92794802
Wonder Woman being good would spark much more shitposting, especially if it has a higher RT score than GOTG2.

DCEU movies being trash has become the norm, they need a combo breaker to be fresh again

>>92794844
>Have you listened to Wonder Woman's soundtrack?
Nah man I always save the OST for the first time seeing the film. But I think I'll give that link of yours a quick listen...

>>92794764
>Complains something is generic
>Praises that interchangeable bwong shit that might as well be from Inception

>>92794757
>For the first time in his life, Superman felt pain and fear. You can hear after him being exposed to the Kryptonite gas, the Zod theme kicks in
Aren't you contradicting yourself there? Also, that's pretty flimsy if you ask me. There was no indication that Superman was feeling fear so intense that it would blind him to forget about his mother's life being at risk

As for the Batman stuff, that wasn't part of my argument. My point is that Superman should have tried

>>92794788
>lines copy pasted from All Star Superman, deliverd by Russel Crowe
lol sure

>>92794857
The only bad DCEU film is Suicide Squad. And it's about on par with MCU films.

>>92794871
It's harmless, basically a rework of the Is She With You track from BvS. Sounds incredible though.
>>92794884
What bwong? There literally isn't even one in that track, only Zod's material uses that stuff

>>92794903
>Suicide Squad
>on par with Winter Soldier
oh im laffin

>>92794889
>There was no indication that Superman was feeling fear so intense that it would blind him to forget about his mother's life being at risk
He absolutely didn't forget about his mother. In fact, it's probably there he realized that his mother's life might be lost on him due to the Kryptonite weakening him. He was becoming desperate. Hence the Zod theme kicking in.

>My point is that Superman should have tried
Superman did try.

>>92791455

Why would you type this out.

Did you sit there and think this was clever or funny or actually how people speak

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>>92792850
It's funny that you bring up Batman Returns.
Batman Returns was also guided mostly by the director's vision without much regard for the source material and it also had a very divisive reaction with polarizing depictions of popular character.
At the time it came out, the movie repulsed audiences with it's dark imagery, McDonalds and several other companies pulled advertising, the movie was boycotted by several groups, Burton was booted off the franchise and DeVito was even nominated for a Razzie.
But critics liked it, the movie pulled in profits, it went on to receive tons of nominations (and two awards) and nowadays several people like it much better than the first one, to the point that it's considered.

The existence of Batman Returns proves that you can make a good movie without necessarily being faithful to the source material as long as you can provide your own unique spin on things and make something good as result. When you just focus on making the movie you want to make.
I find it curious that no one mentions the actual unsung masterpiece of the Batman film series whenever we discuss BvS. Perhaps because BvSfans believe their movie will be vindicated by history like Batman Returns was. And perhaps this might be because Batman Returns, while it's not considered a good Batman movie, is a great Tim Burton movie (starring Batman characters) and a great film in general. While Zack Snyder's movies are neither good representations of the source material, nor can they be defended as good movies.

And I guess it also dispels the nonsense that people don't like dark and violent superhero movies (even if it takes some time for them to appreciate it).
But hey, I guess I'm just a Marvelfag for wanting DC to make good movies instead of rushing a pathetic cinematic universe.

>>92794903
>Man of Steel
>controversial movie
>abundant action shit
>lol muh godly symbolism
>not bad
You're kidding?

>>92794921
>Winter Soldier
I liked it better when it was called Die Hard 3 with an actual charismatic lead.

>>92794931
Superman had a million opportunities to yell out "LUTHOR KIDNAPPED MY MOTHER" like he tried to at the very beginning of the fight. Especially after the first kryptonite grenade wore off.

For fuck's sake, instead of saying "STAY DOWN, IF I WANTED IT, YOU'D BE DEAD ALREADY", he could have told Batman about Luthor three times

>>92794857
>especially if it has a higher RT score than GOTG2.

I honestly doubt it'll get that high, but it'll be fresh for sure.

>>92794972
Preach it. Returns is the shit

>>92795007
Oh, you're still trying to make that happen.

Sad.

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>>92794973
Man of Steel is more meaningful than anything in the MCU. Rewatching it, I come to notice nuances and touches that I didn't notice. The story also has ton of heart and you actually come very close to Clark Kent seeing him as an isolated kid turned into a massive icon for mankind. It's also well-directed with good cinematography and effects. It actually feels like a comic-book film.

>>92794931
>He was becoming desperate
Wouldn't that be even more of a reason to try to stop the fight? He never intended to kill Batman in the first place so getting the fight to stop by talking should have been his number 1 priority

>>92795064
I've seen so many desperate arguments being repeated today. It's always the same bunch of guys, isn't it?

>>92794972
>They can't be defended as good films because I'm writing this paragraph on Returns and also ignoring everything else said ITT
There's no winning here.

I'm not your God damn bro.

>>92795078
Superman is also man. The prospect of him having to lose his mother wore him down temporarily. But him being Superman snapped out of it. I don't understand why this is so difficult to comprehend.

>>92795087
Yes.

Every DCEU-MCEU thread is average anons talking about the subject at hand intersped with the same dozen shitposters doing it for shits and giggles and the same dozen diehard defenders who take this "feud" seriously.

>>92791742
are you kidding? tons of marvel fans hate the movies and hate marvel for what it's doing.... to the point that we aren't marvel fans anymore.

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>F-F-FUCK YOU MARVELFAGS
>DC IS KINO AND YOU ARE JUST TOO DUMB TO GET IT
>YOU ARE JUST SHILLS PAID BY DISNEY TO HATE IT

>>92795130
I've always said there's a difference between Marvel shills and Marvel fans.

Marvel shills are the ones defending Disney's blatant exploitation of the IP, fans are the ones hating it. They are treating it like a coal mine that's already reaching saturation point.

>/tv/'s cognitive dissonance is overflowing to /co/
Marvel's films are kiddy shit with the only one thats a decent film in itself being GotG1. DCU started off empty tryhard shit and now theyre just imitating the MCU.
Get your contrarian shitposting asses out of here.

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>>92795207

>>92794802
Honestly either way it's going to be equally bad because you will never be able to get a decent discussion (not that you ever really could) about it with all the false flaggers, shitposters, and /tv/ rejects shitting up every thread.

>>92794972

I'm sorry mate, I love Returns and I very nearly love v Superman though for mostly different reasons. I like Burton, or used to like him until he sold out, and while I think Watchmen and BvS are Snyder's only genuinely good movies I respect him too.

I get why people don't like BvS, I really do. But it resonated with me and I think I can disprove a lot of the criticism's that some claim make it an "objectively" bad movie. I have no problem with people saying they just didn't enjoy it, that's perfectly fine.

>>92795117
You're deluding yourself if you think the movie makers had this grand vision of Superman acting out of character temporarily in order for him to actually fight Batman as advertised

The two needed to fight, therefore Superman couldn't stop the fight by talking like a sane person would do. Not every single moment of the film is masterfully crafted. It was just necessary bad writing in order to get the two to fight.

Look Im sure the following video will answer all your questions regarding Wonder Woman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1yhQdB1JlE

>>92795117
So it's literally plot induced stupidity

>>92791492
fuck off

>>92795073
Fucking kek

>>92795293
It's a Kryptonite induced panic attack upon realizing he might be too weak to save his mother.

>>92795073
I'm not even comparing it to the MCU, I only ever watched the last two Capt. America films.

Frankly, just because I think it's bad doesn't mean there isn't anything good.

I say it's bad because of its arrogance and because its execution was terrible. You could look at small details and deem them good all you like, but I can look at small details and deem them bad too (Lois being heavier than the debris and not getting sucked into the portal is a small point)

However, my point still stands

>>92791455

You can't reason with /co/. Angry virgins can't just watch a film as a piece of entertainment; they've got to look for things to get angry about instead.

>>92791701
RT collects literally hundreds of reviewers. There is no cabal of Zach Snyder haters out to give negative reviews to his films, his DC movies just suck.
>They'll give WW a fresh for sure, as long as there's no whitewashing.
So Suicide Squad is rotten because...

>>92795327
What is your point? You call something shit and when someone disagrees, you just repeat yourself. Ok? What exactly is there to discuss in that post of yours?

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>>92795325
That's almost as good of an explanation as the kryptonite fog in Superman 64

>>92795348
It's no surprise that manchild bloggers hate Snyder considering how he refuses to abide to their standards of reducing his films to live-action cartoons.

>>92795380
>It's no surprise that manchild bloggers hate Snyder
Have you even looked at the people who review films on RT?
>he refuses to abide to their standards of reducing his films to live-action cartoons.
Ah yes the "his films are just too deep for you, maaaaan" excuse. Easily the most idiotic defense of Man of Steel and BvS.

>>92795325
You mean like when the first round of gas dissipated and Batman was clunking his fist on his invincible face? Maybe he should have explained to Batman then instead of throwing him against a wall again

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>>92795405
>Have you even looked at the people who review films on RT?
Yes, have you?

>>92795351
>Literally said that the execution was terrible and the film seemed arrogant
>lol you didn't say anything
Cognitive Dissonance or deliberate ignorance, I can't decide

>>92795433
Hundreds of reviewers, and you always only ever mention 3

>>92795433
The New York Post, a critic from the Associated Press, and Baltimore Magazine are man child bloggers now? What the fuck are you talking about?

>>92795433
Literally has two top critics in the pic
>lol they just irrelevant, contrarian bloggers
This insecurity

>>92795433
>DC fan and Trump supporter

Explains a lot, really.

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>>92795480
They don't even understand the most basic aspects of the film. Most of the "critics" are literal who bloggers.

>>92795514
>he thinks the point was in support of Trump
This is what the marlel brainlets actually think. If the reviews said "it's critical of Trump therefore it's bad", the review would be just as invalid to me.

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>>92795541
>They don't even understand the most basic aspects of the film
Do you honestly believe that their entire review is just the blurb that gets put on RT?

>>92795577
No, he's calling you an idiot because you honestly think that your picture presents a valid case against Rotten Tomatoes.

>>92795541
Is that pic supposed to support your claim?

>>92795588
When the highlight part of the review is "I don't understand why they're fighting", then you can safely disregard the text as whole.

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>>92795265
I understand how you feel since I'm a Returns loving fag who often had to defend the movie agaisnt criticisms I didn't deem far. I was pointing out that people don't seem to bring up Returns in these threads even though it gives BvSfags the excuse to claim that BvS will be vindicated by history (which ain't fucking happening). And I think one can look at both movies to see the pros and cons of making an adaptation that deviates heavily from the source material.
Although in actuality BvS doesn't deviate that much from the source material since the movie is essentially Death of Superman + TDKR + Man of Steel 2 smashed together in a trash compactor to produce a long trailer for the JL movie. But I digress.

Still, if it's worth anything to you, I have no ill will to BvS. I dislike the /tv/ manchildren pushing this company war into /co/ but I don't hate BvS. In fact I actually liked watching it.
I found it to be such complete utter shlock that I had a blast watching it and poking fun at what a trainwreck it was. I even went to see it twice.
I can't hate a movie that makes me laugh so much.

>>92795602
Don't backpedal now you illiterate fuck. No wonder Marvel shills can barely read.

>>92795617
>When the highlight part of the review is "I don't understand why they're fighting",
That's a valid complaint for the film. There was legitimately no reason for them to fight besides the movie saying they had to.

>>92795646
What do you think the word "backpedaling" means?

>>92795632
Your whole post screams of someone incredibly passive aggressive trying make a nonsensical point while also pretending he's "above capeshit wars". It's transparent.

>>92795663
The movie explains why they're fighting but it's a bad explanation, that's it.

>>92795663
So you're saying, disregarding the parts explaining where they had to fight, there was no reason?

Ok? I wonder, do people try this hard to be retarded when watching other films?

>>92795707
>So you're saying, disregarding the parts explaining where they had to fight
The reasons they gave were completely idiotic and made no sense in the context of the film. A bad explanation is no better than no explanation.

>>92795707
By all means, tell us the deep meaningful reasons why the two were fighting in the movie.

>>92795722
The reasons were highly motivated and consisted of key aspects of Batman's and Superman's characters. It goes to the core of both characters.

>>92795740
uh because lex luthor told them to

wow what an amazing meaningful explanation

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>>92795673
I was actually trying to be nice to the guy who replied to me by saying I know what it's like to defend a divisive movie and that I didn't hate BvS and that I liked it too (for different reasons), and that the only thing I dislike is the capeshit company wars that ensued after the movie.
If you thought I was being passive agressive I think you need to chill

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This thread has now devolved into

>BvS explained these things but since it's BvS I don't like it explaining it that way

Waste of time arguing with the same 3 Marvel shills really. After all, they're the same people who suffered the feces that was Civil War and came out defending it.

>>92795793
Yeah yeah you hated it so much you ended up liking it all while trying to invalidate any and all arguments because you've started talking about Returns for no reason at all.

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>>92795805
>Waste of time arguing with the same 3 Marvel shills really.
"Anyone with different opinions from me are being paid to post"

>>92795805
fuck off, I'm a DC fanboy and BvS was garbage, excuse me for wanting a better movie

God, I fucking hate cape movie threads on /co/.

>>92795805
The fact that I desperately want a DC movie that isn't shit does not make me a marvel shill.

>>92795805
> I don't have a real argument so let me call everyone who disagrees with me a shill
Cool.

>>92795849
It's ok, your pathological obsession with expressing your hatred for a film has been made abundantly clear over the course of this thread. All arguments made against you have been discarded so you can repeat your shitposting tomorrow under the guise of "I'm just a disappointed DC fanboy I swearz".

Predictable and petty.

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>>92795829
>you hated it so much you ended up liking it
I don't think you understand how the enjoyment process for a shlock movie goes.
I don't "hate it so much I start liking it" movies like The Room or Troll 2, and that's the same standard I hold BvS to. There is no hate involved.
>you've started talking about Returns for no reason at all
I was talking about Returns because someone brought it up and I was bringing up a comparison between it and BvS.

Cool down, friend. I was just trying to break the ice.

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>>92795805
>BvS explained these things
No, it's 1 DCuck trying to explain away plot-holes and bad characterization with their shitty interpretation of an objectively bad and poorly edited movie.

>>92794543

American Gods tv series

>>92795908
>"I'm just a disappointed DC fanboy I swearz".
Damn nice call
>>92795877
>I'm a DC fanboy
Concern trolls are funny to watch. They'll spout how much they love DC and poke fun at Marvel and look as they reveal their true colors. Every time.

>>92795750
Core of Both Characters my ass

The movie doesn't make a distinction between the two. It just makes Batman more brutal, making Clark disagree.

This Clark is a brooding Clark that is depressed with the world considering him a god, not the optimistic guy that believes that men are good. A belief that Snyder wants Batman to understand at the end of the movie.

It wasn't a contrast of light and dark, where two sides of the same proverbial coin clash in ideals. It was grey against a darker shade of grey.

And any disagreement the might have had was destroyed when Lex had to make Superman fight Batman, instead of Superman doing so on his own.

>>92795919
Ah yes, the Evans faces. What better way to hide you're not a sad Marvel shill but with a Evans face? I guess the shilling script didn't include the part about being subtle.

>>92795943
>The movie doesn't make a distinction between the two
Holy hell did you miss the point entirely. He believes men are good. Which is why he didn't destroy Batman. So that's wrong right off the bat.

>>92795960
>m-muh Marvil Shill!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEE

>>92795805
I love the Marvel movies. But I can't forgive Civil War being a mostly Bucky movie and only 1 heroVhero fight that was over before it started. I would've liked them to at least have the plot from the Ultimate Alliance 2 Civil War story with an A.I. baddie created from The Tinkerer. And I loved the ASM movies but ASM2 had the worst fucking villain costumes since Doctor OctoHobo.

The Nolan trilogy is shit because of "muh realism"

Batman V Superman is shit for obvious Martha reasons and convoluted reasons for them to fight from Facebook Luthor

WonderWoman will end up being a C-minus superhero flick easily forgotten in a year like Sqwad was.

And finally, Ironman Homecoming looks horrific and gives away too much in the trailers. Based Keaton is the only reason to watch as Vulture.

Both sides have stacks of shit. It's just that Marvel drank a laxative and started first.

>>92791455
DCucks victim complex is so pathetic.

>>92795908
"Anyone who dislikes a movie I like is shitposting."
Do you honestly believe that you're making a good case for the film?

>>92795990
Next time do it without the obvious Evans gifs, Pajeet.

>>92795984
>Holy hell did you miss the point entirely. He believes men are good.
He never discussed it with Batman.

Never discussed it at all.

He never even verbalized it, just that Batman was too brutal.

And you say you watched the damn movie.

>>92796011
You can dislike the film. But blatantly ignoring any point made for the film so you can write how "it was bad" with no further explanation isn't merely disliking, it's shitposting. And let's face it, for a group of people in love with MCU, you are being awfully selective with your criticism.

>>92796056
>He never discussed it with Batman.
Yes he did. The Lex dinner party.

But this wasn't your point. The point wasn't the discussion. It was the distinction between the two. See how you're changing your arguments now that you've been called out on spouting falsehoods. It goes like this on repeat for 300 more posts.

>>92796027
>d-don't use Evans gifs
>Implying that I was the one who posted it
lol sure man

>>92795918
BvS is definitely great comedy material

>Grandma's peach tea

>>92793595
what the fuck is this complaint I keep seeing lately about the MCU focus testing their movies

Everyone does focus testing. But the every DCU movie has had extensive reshoots after focus testing shows poor results, or a MCU movie/Deadpool/Logan succeeds and they decide to change the tone of the movie for the fourth time any given month.

>>92796111
>An ancient Kryptonian deformity; blood of my blood, born to destroy you!... Your Doomsday.
bravo

>>92796134
Nope. None does focus tests as much as Disney does. It's their modus operandi. This is why MCU films are pretty much all the same despite different directors.

I don't think BvS has a plothole, but it has characters acting in ridiculous and dumb ways, though.

>>92796062
>If you dislike DC you have to love Marvel!!!
The MCU is by-the-numbers quip filled mediocrity, but that doesn't mean that the DCEU isn't helplessly bogged down by Snyder's botched attempts at being deep.

>>92795984
>He believes men are good
No one stays good forever tho.

>>92796166
What's exactly wrong with this line?

>>92796062
>But blatantly ignoring any point made for the film
This projection. I'm literally trying to refute the point made. That's not the same as ignoring. You are the one ignoring, claiming that I have made no other point other than "it's bad". Practice what you preach or get out of my way.

>>92796224
You're still doing it. Completely empty post.

BvS got rid of Doomsday's spiky beard

automatic 1/10 imo

...I can't help but notice that there's less samurai jack ending defense force threads today, so I'm starting to think there really was significant overlap between those guys and Snyderfags.

>>92796101
>But this wasn't your point. The point wasn't the discussion. It was the distinction between the two. See how you're changing your arguments
Are you autistic?

You think that the discussion about what they believe doesn't have anything to do with their distinction.

Holy shit dude. Atleast try to act like you know what the writing was about.

Also, again. They only discussed about Batman's methods and such.

Nothing about Superman's belief that men are good.

>>92796169
Read my post. Yes, they do. But so does WB, and it results in schizophrenic reshoots and recuts of the movies, causing the plots to be nonsensical and the tone to be all over the place.

The worst you can say about the MCU is what you said, they got it down to a science, achieving a consistent quality. Meanwhile, WB stumbles in the dark.

>>92796253
Again, projection is strong with you

Good, get out of the way then

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>>92796166
What are we, some kind of Batman V Superman™ Dawn Of Justice: Ultimate Cut Squad ?

>>92796253
>literally disagrees with what you said
>hurr sure empty post
Cancer

>>92796417
Personally I'm still a little salty that WB ruined I Am Legend with their focus tested reshoot ending.
...Actually now that I think about it they did the same to Little Shop of Horrors way back in the 80s.

My only regret is that I'm a filthy phoneposter right now, away from my computer with all my laughing Chris Evans images for when the RT reviews arrive and the shitstorm hits.

>>92791492
Movies aren't objectively 'bad' or 'good'. They only have 'quality' in your eyes. They are a product of human brain, therefore, it's impossible for some objective rating criteria to exist outside of our brains.

>>92795877
MCU fan here. Had to burn my collection after BvS came out and showed me what a good movie was.

>>92796594
No, a movie can be objectively bad based on scene composition, editing, script, special effects, lighting, and acting.

There are movies that are considered objectively good but did poorly because they just didn't hit the mark, had poor PR, or were just in a situation.

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>>92796588
I never get to use my favorite, but there's so many to choose from.

>>92796594
>I have to invalidate the concept of quality itself to win an argument about which company makes better superhero movies

>>92795919
>plot-holes and bad characterization
>can never actually find any examples so has to pretend there are

>>92791492
What a faggot

>>92791780
jesus christ.

>>92791492

The best answer, all we wanted was WB to at least try.

>>92791492
It'd be nice, but I don't see it happening with either company.

>>92794972

People didn't like Returns when it came out? I remember going into the theaters over several months (back when films took a year to reach video) and it still being packed in the dollar places.

>>92797207
It did make a lot of money (of course it would, it was a Batman sequel) but it took a while for the film to be viewed positively.
Lots of parents were upset at the movie because they didn't read the PG-13 rating and McDonalds pulled advertising because Danny Devito's Penguin was too gross and scary. And Jewish groups were also offended because of the character

You are /co/. Comics and cartoons board and you focus mostly on cape stuff.
It's a move about a very famous superhero. You're going to watch it sooner or later, either way. Maybe not in cinemas, but you will, eventually.
Same as any DCEU movie. Same as any MCU movie. Same as the Nolan films, same as the Hellboy ones (this is not an invitation to argue on whether hellboy is a cape or not).

So what does it matter anyway?

>>92797502
>You're going to watch it sooner or later, either way. Maybe not in cinemas, but you will, eventually.
I still haven't seen the last two. Or Fan4stic. It's very easy to not see a movie.

>>92797583
You haven't seen hellboy?

>>92797641
I meant the last two DCEU movies.
And are the Ninja Turtles technically capes? I didn't see the first Bay Turtles. Even though I did see the second and that's my big childhood series.

I hate discussing about MoS and BvS on /co/. It's always filled with stupidity. Ironic how /tv/ you can have a much more civilized and adult conversation about them.

>>92797884
I have an intensely hard time believing that.

>>92797920

It has happened this weekend, in fact.

>>92791455
>>92791455
This is what you faggots don't get. We all like superheroes. We WANT there to be good DC movies. It's just that honestly speaking, as critics almost unanimously agree, there aren't. If the Wonder Woman movie ends up defying all the odds and being watchable, I for one will be very happy for DC. It will definitely be a step up for them to have produced one watchable film, after the last 3 abominable schlockfests. They will still have a ways to go to be seen capable of consistently producing watchable films, but it would be a good first step. What I won't do is claim Rotten Tomatoes and all critics are part of a conspiracy and being bribed or threatened by DC. Because that's what insane people do.

>>92791455
>early viewers are saying it's good

>Fuck fuck fuck


Bigly.

>>92791455
i'm only going to see this for wonder woman's feet. gladiator sandals are sexy af. hope she won't get those dreaded boots too early on

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>>92791489

>not shilling hard enough

FAKE NEWS!!!

>>92797963
Probably because the Marvel interns are all panicking in their offices about how they're going to stop people from seeing Wonder Woman. Predictions for opening weekend box office went from ~60 mil to over 100 mil.

>>92797963
>there was a non shitposting DCEU thread on /tv/ this past weekend.

Okay MAYBE when captcha wasn't working last weekend and only pass users could post. That I could believe. MAYBE.

>>92794972
I loved Returns when I was a kid. I only later realized what a big piece of shit it was.

>>92792847
'A great film'

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>>92791455
>WB finally caved and started paying reviewers.
That's old news, chum.

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>>92791455
>What do we do if this gets a certified fresh? Say that RT doesn't matter??? Fuck..that means we'll have to stop bragging about RT scores.
If it gets certified fresh and you want it to matter, that will also mean admitting that MoS and BvS are piles of shit, and most of MCU are great movies. You realize that, don't you?

>>92798520
>your own screenshot disproves your claim
Not my fault idiots didn't read the video description of a sponsored video. Retard.

>>92798957
WB paid for positive reviews, it's a fact, friendo.

>>92798622
RT can matter when I want it to and not matter the rest of the time.

Just like the Oscars.

>>92799160
>sponsored video is now a "review"
Huh. Really made me think.

>>92793312
Dude, you can't call Empire and Radio Times "No-name publications" Empire's been going damn near 30 years now and Radio Times is over 90.

>>92791455
Fuck off, the only people that side with a company are assholes and cancer.

We should just agree that we want good movies based off of our favourite capeshit. Bitch and moan like hell when they are being bastardized (see Man of Steel and BvS) But we should at least be hopeful that they could turn out good.

I just want some good fucking movies based on characters that I love. Now, Marvel are actually doing well. They are making fun and enjoyable films, whereas DC have only made 1 movie in the last 35 years, not staring Batman, that is undeniably "Good" not necessarily great, but one that we can all agree is a good film 1982's Swamp-Thing, is a pretty cool film. Nothing to write home about, but a solid flick.

We should be having a go at WB because we want them to do better, not because "We Hate DC and Muh Marvel is bettar!" and we should be having a go at Marvel for making a lot of their films the same shit, even if it is enjoyable to watch.

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>>92791455
Doo dee doo dee doo . . .

>>92800551
>We Hate DC and Muh Marvel is bettar!
but this is true tho

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>>92791455
Will this movie actually be the one?

>>92791455
SHILL THREAD PLEASE REPORT