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When will Marvel civies learn to be as greatful to their heroes

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When will Marvel civies learn to be as greatful to their heroes as DC civies are to their heroes?

Yes the Hulk statue was a good example but their opinions of him changed when he went on a rampage and used it as a weapon.
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Basically the entire point of Marvel was to be the opposite of DC.
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Why do these gypsy fucks think they deserve a medal and a pat on the back for getting involved when nobody asked them to?
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>>92745635
Ah, but they love some.

They love Inhumans and Carol Danvers.
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>>92745899
>nobody asked them to
I'm pretty sure the Avengers asked them to get involved in saving the world.

>>92745940
>Inhumans literally launch worldwide terrorist attacks that mutate people against their will
>the Marvel public is okay with this but still hates Mutants

lol
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>>92745940
kek
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>>92745940
They tolerate inhumans, probably because inhumans don't take every opportunity they get to tell normal people how they're the future and that they going to replace them all so they get used to it.
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>>92745635
Post the image of the Flash about to bekilled by a mob of Marvel citizens.
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>>92745976
In all fairness, the Inhumans went out of their way to warn people hours in advance that the cloud was approaching so that people who wanted to avoid it could. Mutants show up in a very loud fashion usually and basically out you to everyone around you stating that now you have to come with them and join the x-men or humans will kill them. No one is really right here to be honest.
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>>92746165
I hope you die in a fire, Souless.
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>>92746270
Fucking x-men, how many normal looking mutants with fairly innocuous powers have they outed and placed in mortal peril?

With all of the telepaths they have couldn't they just contact the mutant from afar and ask them if they wanted to join without destroying their lives.
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Look at those filthy animals attacking Flash and that poor mutant kid.
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>>92745940
YAAAAAAS!
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>>92746399
Not a very good first impression of the MU for Flash.
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>>92746419
QUEEN!
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>>92745635
When they stop having hero vs hero shit every other week.
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>>92746165
Yeah, because being transformed into a giant bulldog because of a cloud is much better than becoming a giant bulldog because of a gene.
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It's kind of like marvel, and dc fans in real life. Marvel fans will gladly criticize bad properties, and trends, whereas DC fans practically have religious devotion to anything with the logo on it.
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>>92746509
>inb4 muh Marvel shills

So very true
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>>92746438
I don't get that cover, she looks like she's angrily fulfilling the other end of a deal by getting on her knees and sucking someone's dick.
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>>92746509
>Marvelfags are the ones buying Slott's Spider-Man for $10 a floppy.
>Marvelfags are the ones buying Waypool till today.
>Marvelfags were the ones supporting shit X-Men for 10 years just because of brand loyalty.
>B-but DC fans are too devoted!
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>>92745976
Terrigen is harmless to normals but it gets rid of those uppity mutants, and you're surprised that marvel citizens are perfectly fine with them. Besides, everyone knows that once the mutant scourge was dead they would immediately try to eradicate the inhuman blight.
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>>92746554
She's mad that she only has fans because she put Tony in a coma, no one really likes Carol.
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>>92745635
>their opinion of him changed when he went on a rampage and used it as a weapon.
I know this is just an example, but that seems like a pretty legit reason to change your opinion on said hero.
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>>92746399
>>92746428
Someone needs to storytime this some time.

Green Arrow being upstaged by Hawkeye was gold.
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>>92746656
I like Carol.
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>>92745940
People only like Carol because she has good publicity, way back in Reed's run she hired a PR firm to raise her profile and it's finally paying off.
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>>92746612
So really Marvel Earth doesn't need heroes they can like they just need a competently run XCOM outfit to clean up the xeno/geno mess.
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>>92746727
Shut up Jess, no one likes you either.
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>>92746747
Precisely.
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>>92746743
Fucking shallow bitch!

Wonder Woman never needed that.
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>>92746804
Carol isn't Wonder Woman, which is something that the higher ups at marvel need to realize.
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>Yfw the Imperial Guard at its whole gets over powered by The Main Man
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>>92745976
It's all just Marvel promoting the genocide of normal humans. Gotta breed em out.
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>>92746612
Didn't Terrigan mutate an entire Shield team into a monster blob in Parkerbolts? It also half-mutated Crossbones.
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>>92746898
Normal humans aren't going anywhere, if every future has taught me anything it's that mutants can't coexist with other mutants.
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>>92746799
That's alot of work but I'm sure we can get it done.
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>>92747011
Yeah, but that was also back when terrigen didn't automatically give mutants cancer or make them sterile it just made their powers go haywire for a while.
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been waiting for one of these threads
fuck marvel civies
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>>92746708
Seconding this if anyone can do it
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>>92747061
The point is that the Terrigen Mist was awful. Humans shouldn't like Inhumans more than they like mutants.
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>>92746747
Need a SWORD/Alpha Flight mod killing Skrulls instead of Thin Men. Carol as a hero unit.
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>>92747120
Humans have barely had to deal with inhumans, whereas they've had decades of mutants causing havoc, they're going to get about more leeway because of it.
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Muties don't belong on our Earth
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she was in the right but still
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>>92747408
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>>92746399
Speed force or not, Flash should be able to outrun that crowd just like any other sprinter in peak condition.
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>>92747408
>>92747438
And people wonder why the rest of the universe wants to get rid of marvel earth.
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>>92747546
>implying he can outrun mutie hate
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>>92747302
>baby killer

I'm still annoyed how hard Marvel tried to push that crap. People weren't holding "baby killer" signs for the Oklahoma city bombing when a daycare was caught in the blast.

Civil war turned me off to Marvel forever.
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will mutants ever not be treated like dog shit?
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>>92747903
>they're people just different

That is HUGE progress.

This was also a decade ago or something.
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>>92747408
>>92747438
oh wow this is actually infuriating
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>>92747329
Jesus what's their fucking problem
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>>92747903
When they expunge sublime from all of humanity.
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>>92747816
Too bad too. There's a good handful of their characters I like over everything else but the stories have just been forgettable or brain damaging.
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>>92747945
it was like 4 years ago
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>>92746344
But somehow X-Fags tend to forget about this
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>>92746804
Wonder Woman is actually nice. Carol is an alcoholic sadist.
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>>92746554

So that's why she's getting a years-long push in the comics, and her own movie?
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>>92748020
They have a bigger persecution complex than the actual characters in the comics.
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>>92748076
>6 X-men related titles after Serect Wars
>Ahhhhhh Marvel is killing off the X-men by not putting them in comics!!
>but what about -?
>Jeeeeeeeeeeeean!
Sounds about right.
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>>92745635
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>>92745635
What comic is that from?
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>>92748281
JL/Avengers
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>>92747114
They really are a group of ungrateful fucks
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>>92747357
Jesus Christ
He's twice their size and dressed like a fucking rhino
And they're still trying to start shit

It's almost admirable
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>>92747408
>>92747438
jesus christ
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Marvel civies are baddicaly a society of the shitties aspects of modern society being forced to live with heroes
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>>92747760
>Castlevania II.jpg
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>>92747547
Now this is alright since those thugs just managed to outsmart Spidey because he jumped the gun
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>>92747903
>Alien humans
>totally fine, just different
>Mutant humans
>every Marvel civilian's face when
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>>92748592
how fucking drunk are they to think they'd walk away from that fight alive?
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>>92746270
I know you can't talk to anyone Blackagar but it's no reason to spend your time shitposting.
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>>92748935
Real question, has there been a story where Blackbolt joins twitter yet?

Yeah it's stupid and something people will post in cringe threads for years, but I also what to see it.
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>>92747235
>I swear to Moses
Do Jews really do that?
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>>92748750
Inhumans sounds a little more modest than calling yourself HOMO SUPERIOR
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>>92748935
You know I'm right though, Inhumans were shown making an effort to warn people, X-men out you the moment they find out you have an X-Gean. You can cover you ears, shut your eyes and sing the 90s xmen theam all you want, but it doesn't stop this from being true
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>>92749033
you have a point, but i'd be more scared of the freaks in their alien castle calling themselves inhumans
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>>92746804
I don't think anyone in Marvel is liked without working heavily on their PR. Case in point the F4.
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>>92749081
Depends, Mutants had Mutant Hitler going around bending metal with his mind.
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>>92749111
You mean the leader and founder of the Brotherhood of EVIL mutants?
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>>92747408
>>92747438
Holy shit. This is a parody, right? This is way too stupid to be serious.
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>>92749255
it's very real
also in that series, a marvel citizen stupid enough to let Norman fucking Osborn put chemicals in his wifes body
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>>92747971
They're not wrong. Weekly "hero vs hero" shit in the middle of cities has to be a fucking hastle.
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>>92749312
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>>92747438
The sad part is this is just over the line of how some real life people react to similar situations.
Not all people, not all the time, far from it, but retarded shit like this has to happen.
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>>92746610

Way has been off deadpool for years. The fuck are you on about?
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>>92745635
Its a marvel thing. Also realistic.

They do like the fantastic four
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>>92747995
>that pic
wew
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>>92746708
>gold

Really? That just felt pretty bizarre to me. Like Busiek had some weird grudge against GA.
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>>92749284
>also in that series, a marvel citizen stupid enough to let Norman fucking Osborn put chemicals in his wifes body
Norman Osborn can't even put chemicals in his own body without accidentally himself into a demented terrorist in a goblin mask. Why the FUCK would anyone let him put chemicals in other people?
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>>92749514
Why do people like them again?

They live in a huge tower in the middle of new york
They have an "allegedly" super smart guy who doesnt bother curing cancer

Put him in the real world and people would be calling him a villain
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>>92749646
They don't interfere, have no idenititys to hide. They're really celebs.

While marvel heros get the same distain as cops do irl.

Anyways human are selective haters. You can hate muslims yet like jews irl.

Dc was bulit on escapism while marvel is built on relating.
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>>92749336
Sheesh Norm, that's Penguin-tier shit.
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they deserved it
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>>92749646
PR.

Reed has cured cancer in HIckman's run, though it was never brought up again so not sure if the treatment method was really reproduceable.
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>>92749646
He played it smart and made sure the F4 looked amazing
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>>92746509
Yeah and then they buy Slott's Spider-Man. Nice company wars faggot.
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>>92749592
He just really, really likes Hawkeye. He even has Hawkeye beat CAPTAIN ATOM off panel.
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>>92749868
Then why the hell does Jane Foster still have cancer, is she just that stubborn that she would rather take chemo than a Reed Richards cure?
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>>92749946
I've never been able to understand that kind of "tear down this guy to make my guy look good" thing. Writers and fans like that are the reason people get fed up with Batman.
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>>92747302

Is this Millar? It reads like Millar.
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>>92749760
>Dc was bulit on escapism while marvel is built on relating.
Funny how things change. Nowadays every Marvel movie is an action comedy and every comic is practically the same. Star-Lord is the most extreme case but there are others.
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>>92750052
Jane is retarded, Thor offered to cure her but she turned him down.
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>>92747357

How many sailors do you think Black Cat has sucked off?
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>>92749883
>amazing
No anon, he made them look fantastic.
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>>92750091
Has to do with Disney tones.

Anyway even the ultimate universe wasn't anywhere harsh on their heroes.
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>>92750121
That and she knows being Thor sets back her treatment, yet she still does it knowing there are a ton of other people who could take her place.
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>>92748692
Sally Floyd dead yet?
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>>92750240
no but she's in a HYDRA jail so one step closer
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>>92750271
Why should we be rooting against HYDRA, again?
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>>92750152

Why do you want to see Black Cat surrounded by seamen, anon?
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>>92750324
Damn, cletus in the right.

Kill that porker man.
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>>92750298
hydra got rid of internet porn
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>>92750355
We all have to make sacrifices for the greater good, anon.
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>>92750355
Too far Steve, too far
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they don't deserve to live
>>92750355
well that changes things
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>>92750271
Not close enough.
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>>92747760
Wait...what?
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>>92745635


Marvel doesnt have heroes, it has people that do some good, but that's it.
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>>92750732
Just like real life.
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>>92746747
Marvel Universe works off the idea that IF Xcom popped up, it would go rough in half a year or less.
Or any of the existing factions would infiltrate them in months.
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>>92749946
Between Busiek's boner for Hawkeye and Pérez's boner for Scarlet Witch the event seemed a bit unintentionally tilted toward the Marvel characters.
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>>92749514
>Also realistic.

Marvel civilians have gone way past that point long ago. Their flip flopping on their heroes has hit high retard levels multiple times.
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>>92751875
Just like just real life. The germans are bad, ther gerans are good, the germans are bad.

They gays are bad, they gays are good, they gays are bad.
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>>92745635
I wonder if DC citizens would hate Marvel heroes if they got to know them better.
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>>92751949
and the next page.
I might be able to storytime this on Sunday, but I don't have a 4chan pass, and it will take a fucking long time.
1/3
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>>92751937
The world's opinions on the germans from negative to positive was nearly a century.

The marvel citizens mutant opinion flip flops how many times in a decade?
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2/3
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3/3
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>>92752065
None.

Modern marvel civilians love their heros. But still hate evil xmen.
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>>92752070
they've got plastic man? this fight is over well before it began.
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>>92751789
Maybe, but DC got the official sequels by Busiek himself.
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>>92752070
>>92752188
I never noticed Plastic man's gun hand.

How can the Avengers possibly hope to win?
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>>92747408
>>92747438
This people are fucking retarded.
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>>92747272
what is that supposed to be censoring?
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>>92752280
Scarlet Witch goes "Muh DC Chaos Magic!" and KO's half of them and teleports the Avengers away.
Plastic Man does nothing, except get tangled by Quicksilver
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>>92752412
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>>92747408
>coulda knocked him out without brain-damaging the guy

literally impossible
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>>92749946
>>92750068
>>92751789
Here's the Captain Atom page
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>>92749053
For free or for a fee, piece of shit shill?
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>>92747700
This is a parody right?

Right?
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>>92752710
For the Queen
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>>92752710
So you don't have a counter argument then?
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>>92752412
No I've read it before I was joking about how it ended.

If it wasn't for the writers changing with the laws of the DC universe for the sake of an even field the Avengers would get their asses handed to them.
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>>92752722
It's Deadpool
it support to be parody
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>>92752412
Magic is bigger in dc. Supersceince happens more in marvel.

Kyle got mega powered by the cube. While speed force doesn't exist in marvel.
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>>92752412
One of the most perfect fan theories is that Scarlet Witch's exposure to DC chaos magic explains Avengers Disassembled and House of M.

The time is right (those events happened right after this one), it explains all kinds of shit that didn't make sense in 616 including why she kept forgetting and remembering she had children, and why she was suddenly omnipotent and unstable.
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>>92752103
>squadron supreme wannabes
kek
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>>92745635
Remind me again, are they still canon Magneto's children in the comics? DO we even talk about polaris anymore?
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>>92753150
They're not even MUTANTS anymore.

Thanks, movie synergy!
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>>92752574
Waid, Johns and busiek hate captain atom m8. Loeb and Morrison are among the few writers that liked the guy without having worked with him. For the record, Morrison dislikes only one character and is hulk.
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>>92752574
>Smug flash
Thats rare
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>>92745635
I guess there is no Fox News in the DCU
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>>92753322
>Johns

He's never going to let this go, is he?
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>>92750355
So what's the distribution method for porn that they've chosen instead, then?
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>>92753150
>>92753292
For now they're not but wait a few years until it's revealed that the new mom that they found out was their mom turns out to have actually been Magda all along and they'll be Mags kids again.
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>>92753457
He's too much of a Halfag to let it go.
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>>92747700
Oh god, that was great.
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>>92746165
>They tolerate inhumans, probably because inhumans don't take every opportunity they get to tell normal people how they're the future and that they going to replace them all so they get used to it.

Black bolt never speaking has something to do with that.

>>92746270
Have you seen how angry people get about chemtrails? If they weren't a kingdom on the moon, their asses would be sued constanly forever.
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>>92745635
Have you not been reading Marvel lately(if not good for you)

Their female characters can do no wrong these days in the eyes of the people, and other than the blatantly conservative new castors they keep cramming into stuff like Captain falcon, neither can minorities
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>>92747114
>>92747171
>>92747204
>>92747235
>>92747272
>>92747302
>>92747315
DC dosent need an injustice universe fucking marvel does (Secret Empire dosent count it just proves my point)
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>>92747816
The most likely place you will see protesters holding shit like this is an anti abortion protest.
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>>92747408
>>92747438
Who's worse?
Marvel citizens or our real life citizens?
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>>92749255
Visit some paramedic, EMT, firerighter or LEO forums. This isn't unrealistic at all.
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>>92746453
One could happen to any human. The other can only happen to The Chosen Ones.
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>>92754581
the whole point of Exiles was they track\ down all the Injustice-type universes and take out whomever became the tyrant
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>>92750324
Carnage-Man begins
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>>92752035
Cap's so butthurt that people actually like the League for not being full of assholes
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>>92755046
To be fair to Cap, everyone's emotions were being slightly manipulated (which is why Plas thinks that Supes is being a little aggressive on the next page).
Cap was being pushed to be more of an aggressive dick than usual
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>>92749646
>Why do people like them again?
Good PR.
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>>92749868
The treatment method was "shrink down with a team of superhumans and personally excise the tumors and cancer cells." Actually, it was the same way Superman did it in All-star Superman now that I think 'bout it.

Either way, while that works for a single special treatment, it's too specific and dangerous for wide use.
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>>92750355
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>>92747546
Maybe he twisted his ankle when he tripped
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>>92750445
Fucking kek, that happened in real life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcGFVcb500Q
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Has the page with Superman and Nightwing in the park with the policeman been posted yet?
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>>92748573
No wonder people hate "heroes" and love Doom. The heroes ended up building arks and saving themselves, and Doom saved the Universe.
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>>92754713
Earth civies doesn't actively try to genocide their power structure.
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>>92755930
What? They do that ALL the fucking time.
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>>92756239
MARVEL civies try to do active genocide of superheroes. MARVEL commandos are on the same page.

Meanwhile IRL there is some coups in weak states, some CIA/KGB faggotry, and some wars. But its not at the MARVEL levels.
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>>92756306
I misunderstood you. I thought you were talking about the shit like in Baltimore or Detroit, or Seattle or SF, where fuckers burn down their own infrastructure, destroy millions in government resources, loot the place, and then complain that their city is a shithole.
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>>92752446
I miss this Wanda.
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>>92757094
The sad thing is that there are just some things characters don't recover from. They've made strides in rehabbing her in the last few years, but her foundation is still cracked.
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>>92747995
Ugh...it's shit like this that forced the Avengers to include that shitty Triathlon, the biggest case against forced diversity.
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>>92756415
If they where Marvel civies, they would loot the higher class areas, instead of their own shit.
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>Stark tech is pretty great, let's put it in everything
>oh no Skrulls have launched a Stark-specific virus that they worked on for years
>fuck you Stark everything is your fault
>oh hey Norman Osborn happened to get the killshot on the Skrull queen even though there was an entire legion of avengers charging at her
>yeah let's put the fucking Green Goblin in charge of everything, surely he's not plotting anything
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>>92758150
Everything about Dark Reign was painfully stupid, but /co/ is full of people who will walk through fire to defend it.
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>>92758369
Reading this storyline right now.
I like some of it. Civies are stupid as always but I love whenever Osborn underestimates shit and gets his panties in a twist.
Love Deadpool and Atlas in this so far. Some other series like SKK are weird af though.
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>>92758150
>yeah let's put the fucking Green Goblin in charge of everything, surely he's not plotting anything
I often have trouble believing that's how it went down. That there isn't some point one issue or something which explained it better.
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>>92758867
Bendis doesn't care.
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>>92746399
I always found it weird how this happened. This is like the only time I've ever seen Marvel civilians guess wrong that a character is or isn't a Mutant at a first glance, the fuckers just seem to know somehow.
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>>92745812
"the world outside your window"
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>>92758867
basically Norman had been certified as mentally ill due to exposure to the goblin serum, put on meds to keep the crazy under control, and had been running his company like a respectable businessman long enough that his goblin days were considered as long-gone as hawkeye's criminal days and black widow's soviet days
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>>92750373
ha get it because he losses his legs in the war. Man such great comedy
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It course doesn't help that Marvel heroes are assholes who repeatedly cause wide spread destruction, are public menaces and mutiple hero vs hero wars.
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>>92753457
I think it's more because Johns is a Firestorm fag.
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>>92746428
I always found the George Perez Kyle to be a hot twink.
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>>92749298
>>92747329
She wasn't in the right at all. The Avengers were fighting Norman Osborn and his Evil Avengers that were allied with AIM, Hydra and The Hand and were trying to take over America.
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>>92745635
You think that's bad? Bendis recently outdid himself.
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>>92759892
This crazy woman created a murderous anti-superhero group because Carol Danvers kept her in a cell for a few hours. Even though a bunch of other superheroes broke her out.
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>>92759901
So even if one could understand her wanting revenge on Carol, barely, her wanting revenge on the entire superhuman community is fucking stupid.
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>>92759916
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>>92759934
I mean Jesus Christ. Being put in a jail cell for stupid reasons is enough to make you a libertarian, but not enough to turn you into a fucking child-killer terrorist psycopath.
Also her plan was stupid.
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>>92759948
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Don't DC civillians no longer think their heroes are real cool guys, too? I thought that was the state of things post-new 52. Part of that probably stems from the Golden Age no longer being an in-continuity thing, so there's no Justice Society and 50+ years of good deeds to make the Justice League look good
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>>92759948
bendis is a bad writer

a bad and extremely limited writer

like and I thought Frank Miller was one note but Jeezy Creezy
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>>92759948
>Hates superheroes
>Hires murderous supervillains like The Spot
And she's a hypocrite too
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>>92753322
>Loeb and Morrison are among the few writers that liked the guy without having worked with him

I know Weisman is still butthurt that Morrison turned Eiling into the Shaggy Man.
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>>92745635
What were these people even protesting about again?
How are the Avengers to blame for anything?
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>>92749514
edgefags thinking that's realistic
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>>92745812
This. Its why Marvel is so shallow.
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>>92747315
oh look, an average day on 4chan
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>>92752949
A combination of that and mischief by Chthon (surely a big DC fan) would make far more sense than the demented nonsense Bendis spewed out (David Sexton and Jeff Parker both dismissed Bendis's nonsense).

But that would have developed Wanda's character, and why would Marvel do that when they can trash her instead?
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>>92753292
Nothing to do with the MCU, as Marvel Comics have largely ignored the MCU when it comes to Wanda, and much more to do with Wanda being too toxic for the X-Men.

It's not like the X-Men are going to hang out with a genocider.
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>>92753629
I think they are going to replace her with Wiccan the instant her movie version dies in the MCU.
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>>92760221

When the Avengers DON'T get protested against? They've been getting shit on the public for YEARS.

Then again this is the same city that called Luke Cage a race traitor because his best friend was white and that's after he cleaned up the neighborhood. Christ it wouldn't surprise me after Secret Wars that JJJ blamed Spidey for the Incursions.
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>>92760221
It was from an issue of New Avengers after Fear Itself. I guess people were just upset that shit got fucked again and countless innocents were caught in the crossfire? Cap wasn't even on the team, though.
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>>92760440
>shit got fucked again and countless innocents were caught in the crossfire?
And how was that the Avengers fault? If anything, if it wasn't for the Avengers they'd all either be dead or slaves to a Mad Asgardian God and his Nazi minions.
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>>92749053
No, what happens is, as a mutant, you only really get found out if you do something stupid, if you look like a monster, you can't controll your powers, or you fight back opperessors. All of them in some cpacity show that they're ticking timebombs and become a threat to otehrs. So when the xmen show up, they're like "you should really come with us, or they'll kill you"

The inhumans don't give a shit about humans, the xmen actively try to save people who hate them.
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>>92750324
BEST SYMBIOTE
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>>92749883
>>92749868
>>92750052
>>92755234
He and most of the other smartest minds got together before that and cured most forms of cancer when Mar-vell got sick and died. I forget who prompted it, but the gist was despite curing most forms of cancer with various chems, chemo, treatment, Mar-vells was too advanced, to foregin, too mutated.
>>92750121
I would love to write Deadpool chewing her out on his, Marv's, and Eddie's behalf for refusing free guaranteed and risk free cancer treatment. She's not a stron woman, , she's an idiot.
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>DC Citizens like a DC Hero

/co/: "See? DC has the best citizens!"

>Marvel citizens like a Marvel hero

/co/: "FUCK THIS SJW SHIT WHY DO THEY KEEP SHILLING THIS CHARACTER FUCK MARVEL!!!"

It really stimulates my noodle.
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