>Kirby at DC >creates two future titles (OMAC and Kamandi)

How come I just heard about the variants and the one shots for his centennial?

DC also has the Kamandi Challenge and some omnibuses with his work

>>92725651
Why did DC give Dillon a memorial at the end of everything they published for like a month while Marvel did nothing?

It's because his creations at Marvel are so significant that they get used on a regular basis so Marvel can't come up with ways to celebrate him with anything different (that or they're just lazy which is most likely the case to be honest).
Still sucks though

>>92725651
>New Gods was originally supposed to be in Thor
All his good ideas were for Marvel.

>>92725651
Putting third rate talent on shitty tribute books isn't exactly good. It'll be more worthless by the numbers garbage like The Kamandi Challenge.

I'd rather they do something positive for Kirby, his family, and his legacy instead of parading around the fetid corpses of his creations one more time.

Marvel has been pissing on Kirby since he was actually still alive and working for them. That's why he left for DC and then Pacific Comics. Marvel treated him like shit.

>>92725827
Why did DC pay Wein more for Lucius Fox in adaptions than Marvel ever did for Wolverine?

>>92725856
>I'd rather they do something positive for Kirby, his family, and his legacy
Such as? I don't really see what a comic book company can do besides make more comics.

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It's Kirby's fault that these fags exist. He must pay for his sin

>>92725651
DC seems like it treats its workers better and respects its creators since they know they can jump ship at anytime.

>>92725772
because you haven't been paying any attention

>>92725848
>lazy
*petty

>>92726110
that pic is Bendis' fault
even if it isnt, we should still blame him

I like to blame lee fucker takes credit for almost anything gotten to point no one talks back or anything without probably being black listed

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I don't know I think Marvel does a pretty good job of celebrating their founders.

>>92725651
Don't forget how they turned Captain America into a nazi!

>>92725651

Don't forget Didio turned Forever People into a love letter to Kirby.

>>92726176
This is true. While both Marvel and DC had problems with how they treat their writers/artists, DC had a better track record, overall.

>>92727033
The MCU just doesn't feel right without the First Family of comics.

>>92727165
They're making another Avengers movie though soon

>>92725793
and the Forager and Mister Miracle minis

>>92725848
>we eat food everyday so there's no need to go out for your birthday
that's a really poor excuse for Marvel not to do anything.

The real reason is they want to continue pushing the idea that Stan is the only creator.

>>92725651
Stan Lee

>>92725852
I hate when wiki fags oversimplify history

>>92725651
Marvel make the Captain America a Hydra goon. How is that not a good way to celebrate the King?

>>92725651
>Why does DC love Kirby?

Kirby was at Marvel under Stan Lee. The point at which his working habits - not sticking to the agreed plot, turning in pages nobody even asked for, arguing over pretty much nothing at the drop of a hat - became a problem there was the point at which Lee stepped down as Editor-in-Chief (having been Kirby's editor in one form or another since the 1940s) and became Publisher.

As Publisher, Lee was frequently out of the office and out of New York entirely, trying to sell Marvel's movie rights in LA - something you really have to be there to do. He'd been a successful pitchman for decades on the publishing side and it was a project that bore fruit - several tv shows and movie projects were begun based on rights that Lee worked to sell to the studios, including the popular, long-running and successful Incredible Hulk, starring Bill Bixby.

But by then Kirby was long gone from Marvel, having gone over to DC (who had been in a creative rut for a decade as industry insiders saw it at the time) in 1970, after a falling-out with Marvel that Lee might well have been able to smooth over had he still been around much of the time.

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>>92728008
Kirby's first original project for DC was NEW GODS, an 'original' series which, like much of Kirby's sci-fantasy works, borrowed heavily from the UFO mythos of the 50s and 60s, specifically Erik von Däniken's paean to space aryans, Chariots of the Gods, which revolved around tall, blond, noble, human-like aliens (the standard description post-little green men and pre-greys) from a distant star or plane of existence.

Like his earlier work with Lee and Lieber on THOR, Kirby's NEW GODS was simply a retelling of well-trod human stories and themes against a fantastic backdrop, rather than a fully realized mythos in its own right. Conceived as a separate line to DC's main comics division, NEW GODS was originally supposed to accompany a toyline and potentially cartoon or live action adaptations, but it sold too well and instead of being a limited series was rolled into the wider DC Comics universe, frustrating Kirby who had conceived of NEW GODS as a finite story. Eventually, after 11 issues, the New Gods were cancelled in 1972; related titles MISTER MIRACLE and THE FOREVER PEOPLE were also cancelled, with 18 and 11 issues respectively. NEW GODS would eventually be picked up again in 1976 for another 8 issues, though Kirby did not return to the title.

>>92726804
It is but the unrelentingly shit nature of the O5 is because Kirby couldn't be bothered to stop Stan from making them shit.

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>>92728038
Kirby's work on OMAC was done to meet Kirby's weekly page quota owed to the publisher: it was, as conceived by Kirby, simply CAPTAIN AMERICA set in the future, a plotline he had never introduced while working at Marvel but had considered in outline. Lasting just 8 issues, it sold poorly and was cancelled abruptly.

KAMANDI was conceived by Carmine Infantino as a PLANET OF THE APES clone, and though it contained elements of Kirby's work created prior to the creation of PLANET OF THE APES, KAMANDI stuck close to the formula and rode the popularity of the concept for 37 issues under Kirby, continuing even after he left first the title and then DC, eventually being cancelled in the DC Implosion of 1978. Despite some hints at wider connections, Kirby kept and appeared to wish to keep KAMANDI out of the wider DC universe.

THE DEMON, also conceived at the request of DC, held no interest for Kirby and ran 16 issues; during the run, Kirby's pet project, the FOURTH WORLD titles, were all cancelled, something which Kirby was deeply irritated by.

Kirby returned to his CAPTAIN AMERICA days with the GUARDIAN, a character he had created for National Comics in the 1940s who is essentially a Cap clone, resurrected in SUPERMAN'S PAL, JIMMY OLSEN, a title Kirby had requested as it sold poorly and had no assigned creative team, thus leaving him free to dick around without costing someone their job.

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>>92728058
Other than some one-shots, Kirby produced no other work for DC before leaving the company in 1976 to work for Marvel ("everyone's head started to snap around as Kirby himself came waltzin' down the aisle to join us on the rostrum! You can imagine how it felt clownin' around with the co-creator of most of Marvel's greatest strips once more." as Lee wrote at the time, meaning Lieber, Ditko, and sundry others) where he created the CELESTIALS, MACHINE MAN and DEVIL DINOSAUR, and then moving on to television work.

Despite claims to the contrary, Lee and Kirby remained on good terms throughout, even collaborating on Marvel's first graphic novel, SILVER SURFER: THE ULTIMATE COSMIC EXPERIENCE and the cartoon THE NEW FANTASTIC FOUR in the late 70s and early 80s. Though his activism against work-for-hire in the comics industry set him at odds with all publishers of the day, Kirby's reputation remained solid, and he neither had trouble finding work in comics nor lacked friendships among creators and editors.

>>92725651
You know what? Fuck the shills. Marvel is a shithole that doesn't give a fuck. Penniless cunts.

Because just about EVERY Marvel event centers around his creations. Are you dense?

When DC got Kirby back for that period, they were all like "LOOK WHO WE HAVE! KIRBY'S OVER HERE NOW! SEE!?"

And even then he went back to Marvel.

>>92728215
Isn't Monster Unleashed technically still going?

>>92728215
Only because Mort Weisinger is an asshole.

>>92728008
Lee didn't stop working regularly at the Marvel office until Kirby was gone. Stop pulling shit out of your ass, these synopsis are Wikipedia tier.

>>92728277
>Mort Weisinger
Wasn't it Julie Schwartz at that point?
Nobody didn't like Julie.

>>92727122
He also connected OMAC to the Fourth World. It's insane how many Fourth World fanboys were high ranking in DC at a time.

>>92725651
Marvel is cheap as fuck and if it's not glorifying Quesada, Bendis, Alonso, or anyone in their wank circle they don't care.

>>92728058
Reading this, it seems that Kirby's ideal would have been to write a comic for Image or Dark Horse.

>>92725651
>Why does Marvel hate him?
Well they did make Cap a Nazi

>>92729136
>Reading this, it "seems" that Kirby's "ideal" would have been to "write" a comic for Image or Dark Horse.
yeah I can see them putting up with this punctuation indefinitely

>>92725651
To be fair, all of the things you mentioned from his days in Marvel are still being used on a regular basis, so there's no reason to make one-shots of characters in ongoing books. Though just variant covers is a halfhearted gesture at best. Here's a good question (for everyone), what would you do at Marvel to celebrate his 100th birthday?

Kirby and Joe Simon were screwed by Stan Lee back when the Marvel was Timely. They both hated the sonuvabitch when he rated them out for moonlighting for other publishers. He vowed never to work for them again, but when his YOUNG ROMANCE money was starting to dry up, with nowhere else to go for work Kirby grudgingly went to work on Atlas (as it had become) and their inspiration little monster comics. He still hated Stan Lee, but he had to work.

Lee too credit for most of what Kirby did. Just before Kirby left Marvel, they were only communicating thru third parties.

Lee was no longer involved with the day to day Marvel when Kirby briefly returned before going off to do television and his own comic at Pacific.

>>92725651
If Marvel did the DC thing with a dozen one-shots, you'd hate them all.

You're complaining about having nothing to complain about

>>92729498
The biggest point of contention was that Stan just couldn't understand why ownership was so important to guys like Kirby and Ditko. Stan was a company man, and he knew the rules of the game.
Kirby and Ditko signed contracts then got pissy about it. If Stan's only contribution to the medium was reining in those two kooks as editor, then he earned his keep.

>>92727165
>tfw no 1960s period piece about the space Kennedys

>>92729997
Actually, Kirby never signed a contract in the sixties. The only legal exchange was him cashing their checks and dropping off pages