>Spider Man saving the world Sigh. I thought the MCU understood

>Iron Man 4: guest starring Spider-Man

>>92677601
>they wanted Iron Man on the poster but RDJ demands he be on the poster so they just do both

>>92677601
That is not a good poster.

>>92677601
What a hideous poster

>>92677601
How is he saving the world? Vulture and his crew will just get their hands on Chitauri weapons, that's fairly low-stakes.

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>>92677834
>>92677870
>>92677874
How did we go from this to piss?

>>92677870
>>92677874
This, holy shit. Looks like that one awful X-Men cover by Greg Land.

>>92677601

WTF is a Zendaya?

>>92678086
This is legit one of the best and most memorable film posters ever created.

>>92677601

Welcome to Trump's America of Hitergrad.

>>92677601
Good god, MCU Ironwank Mark XVIII is even stronger than Batwank at this point, isn't it?

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>>92677601
>Spider-Man, Iron Man and Vulture all appear on that poster twice
Pottery

>>92677601
What ever gave you that impression?

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>>92677601
>Have so little faith in your franchise, that you have to shoehorn Iron Man on the poster to garner interest.

Really Jimmies the Neutrons.

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>>92678119
I main Zendaya in Overwatch.

>>92677666
Iron Man 5

>>92677601
>Has stopped Lizard from turning the human population into Lizards
>Aided in the Spider Island virus insident to prevent everyone from being turned into People-Spiders.
>Has halted Carnage's mass murder sprees on multiple occassions, preventing his slaughters from going beyond the city of NY
>Has kept Norman Osborn in check, preventing his influence and power from spreading on a global scale.
>Not saving the world

>>92677601
How many movies have had some ot of stopping peopke from using alien tech to make weapons.

I bet Peter doesn't make a single Satanic Pact the whole movie.

At least Uncle Tony is there to make sure the character stays true to the source material.

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>>92677601
Got what a cluttered poster. Let's throw in random side characters and put the main leads in their costumes and normal.

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>>92677601
fixed

>>92678871
Of all the fucking franchises to not have faith in, why Spider-Man? Of all fucking people? Marvel was willing to sacrifice their second born son Civil War on the altar of Black Fucking Panther, but SPIDER-MAN isn't a big enough pull? Everyone I've ever met IRL has been wishing a plague on Sony's house so they'd finally give up the rights.

>>92678871
I can't blame Sony after the last two Spider-Man films under performed

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>>92679645
>iron man homecoming + spider-man

>>92679366
Actually it goes:
Iron Man
Iron Man 2
Iron Man 3: The Avengers
Iron Man 4: Iron Man 3
Iron Man 5: Age of Ultron
Iron Man 6: Civil War
Iron Man 7: Homecoming
Iron Man 8: Infinity War

>>92679645
>plus spiderman
>not AND spiderman.

do you even knuckles?

Seriously who approved this poster?

>>92679796
Rober Downey Jr

>>92679796
The same people who approved the female ghostbusters.

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>>92679835
>explosion in the background where he's placed
>flying above the fucking tittle

>>92677601
Is this the worst MCU poster thus far?
Guardians 2 was pretty ugly too.

I feel like Sony is being one of those faggots who wants to have the final say in anything that happens regarding X project (in this case, Spider-Man: Homecoming) but doesn't want to put in any actual effort themselves. Basically, they're just telling people to do what they want, then makes changes to suit their own needs rather than whatever others say is a good idea. Y'know?

>>92679645
Feat. would have been better.

Judging the movie as bad because of the poster? God, you guys are such fags.jpg

>>92677834
>RDJ demands
Thats all on Sony and Marvel they know if a movie has RDJ it will sell like hotcakes

>>92677601
Spider-Man has the saved the world in comics at least twice, to my knowledge. And what are you even complaining about? How is Spider-Man going to save the world in Homecoming?

>>92680439
You know, I see people saying this and I have to wonder if it's any true or not. RDJ is that popular? He guarantees a movie's success? Show me your facts, man.

>>92680760
All we can go on is the Sony e-mail leaks, which are from before the official actual deal, but Sony did want to work out a deal where they let them use Spider-man, and then they got to use "Iron Man and Captain America" in their Spider-man movie.

And both Iron Man and Captain America (the Physical Fitness video at school) are in it, so yeah, it seems it was Sony's demand.

>>92679645
Should've put RDJ´s look from Tropic Thunder in front of Zendaya

>>92680726
He's done it dozens of times, or at least been a major contributor.

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>>92677601
>Spider Man saving the world
>Homecoming is literally about Spider-man coming into his own, finding his self worth and stopping a jaded boss of a salvage company from enacting a personal attack on Tony Stark
Homecoming is probably going to be the lowest stakes movie of the MCU. If the villain succeeded in any other MCU entry, it'd have a global effect. This wouldn't.

I swear, you fags have run out of shit to bitch about when it comes to this movie.

>>92677601
This can't be real.

>>92681301
This would have a global effect too, to some degree. This guy is making and selling illegal weapons from alien tech.

>>92677601
>I thought the MCU understood their characters?
What fucking movie gave you that impression? Even the good one, Iron Man, completely rewrote Tony into just RDJ Power Suit Edition.

that banner is overdone

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>>92677601
What a shitty poster, movie looks like complete shit as well.

>>92682546
I never would have noticed if not for this post. Thank you.

>>92677601
fucking quipfest, its so fucking bad. like suicide squad bad.

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>>92678124
Spider-man 2 one is more memorable.

>>92677666
Fun Fact: Tony's scene with Parker is longer than any of Cap's scenes in Civil War...which was supposed to be a Captain America movie..

>>92683190

I liked Civil War, but I really wished they would go with the original idea for the third Cap movie instead.of "Avengers done right, but with smaller budget". The worst thing is the only reason they went with this version of the story is because Batman v Superman was coming out around the same time.

>>92683534
The best part of Civil War is the very end in Siberia, when they finally cut all the bullshit and zone in on the three characters that actually matter.

Bringing in the Avengers was the worst thing they've done for the movie. I actually like Stark's role in the film, he finally loses his carefree playboy flair and works as an excellent foil to Steve and Bucky. So you could keep him in easily. But focus on the characters. Cut all the Accords crap that ultimately amounted to nothing, cut Panther, cut Wanda and Vision, cut Spider-Man and Ant-Man and all the other crap thrown in just for the airport scruffle.

Make the movie about Stark dealing with the fallout of Sokovia, while finding out about his parents' history with Bucky. Make it about him pursuing Bucky's arrest while Steve tries to rehabilitate him. They could easily have all the dramatic impact Civil War had for the ongoing story (the end of Steve and Tony's partnership and strained relations in the Avengers going into Infinity War) while providing a more cohesive, focused movie.

>>92677601
is this the actual poster? It feels like it would be the book cover to some knock-off romance novelization. The title even sounds like one, now that I think of it.

>>92677601

You're all going to go see it anyway

>>92677601
>I thought the MCU understood their characters are useless morons
Hi Ennis!

>>92679917
He looks so fucking sick of playing Iron Man.

>>92677666
Iron Man
Iron Man 2
Iron Man feat. The Avengers
Iron Man 3
Iron Man feat. The Avengers 2
Iron Man vs. The Avengers fighting
Iron Man feat. Spider Man

Can't wait for Iron Man feat. Space Avengers

>>92684410
Let's not forget
Iron Man: Small Edition
Iron Man: Magic Edition

>>92682835
Spider-Man movies SHOULD be quipfests.

>>92684654
Yeah, and be starred by SNL comedians.

>>92684442
But he isn't in those films.

>>92677601
>we want the star wars audience

>>92677666
>>92684410
Iron Man wasn't the center-piece of attention of Avengers. hulk was.
In Avengers 2, Iron man was no more prominent than the others. I was an avengers movie.
Ironman was the antagonist in Civil war, the protagonist was Cap.

People keep meming Iron man stealing the show when it has never happened, yet they are doing it again, like they have goldfish memory.

>>92678932
kek

>>92684410
Actually strangely enough, Cap got more screentime than Iron Man in the Avengers.

>>92684791
Of course he does. Iron Man being the true protagonoist of those movie was memed before they got released, and even if proven false each time, it never went way.

>>92684672
I'm not from /tv/, so I don't get what you're saying.

>>92684672
So, you know nothing about Spiderman, right?

>>92684672
Quip are goods, quip are great, there is never enough Quipping.

Poeple complaining about quips in the MCU are moron who don't understand Quip is part of the Cape-comics DNA.

If you want dark and broody cape-comic movies, go watch the DCEU.

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>>92680726
And those arcs have always been shitty because it takes him out of his element.

>>92681301
>Vulture selling Chitarui weapons
>Not having a global effect

Kill yourself shill.

>>92677601
>>92680726
>>92684919
I don't even know where OP is coming from. We have seen the trailers. Homecoming is about Spiderman having to deal with the vulutre and a crime syndicate of super-criminals.

OP is literally making up things so he can complain about it.
>>92684919
He is done right when he do it while being part of the Avengers, though.

>>92684919
And what element is that, exactly?

>>92684930
>>Not having a global effect
There aren't much left.

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>>92679856

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Wait Zendaya isn't Mary jane after all?

>>92684944
Him being a street level hero. That's where Spider Man works best and that's what these movies keep getting wrong about him. Spider Man 3 and TASM 2s biggest problems were them taking Spider Man out the street and trying to make him into a big hotshot superhero.

Nobody wants to fucking see Spider Man steer a weapons plane to prevent it from hitting NYC.

>>92684957
>Implying they cant reverse engineer them

The movie's plot wouldn't be happening if Vulture is just trying to sell a limited small stock of weapons to a bunch of randoms.

>>92684978
Michelle Gonzales, I would guess.

>>92684978
>>92685001
No MJ.

>>92684991
>The movie's plot wouldn't be happening if Vulture is just trying to sell a limited small stock of weapons to a bunch of randoms.
It's exactly what is going on.

That's the story.

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Hmm, I don't think this is what made Star Wars print money

>>92684984
>Him being a street level hero
So I guess that Peter going on adventures with the FF and being a member of the Future Foundation and being a teacher at the Jean Grey School and leading a team of junior X-Men was shitty just because it "took him out of his element".

Spider-Man makes a great street level hero, but that's not the only level where he works. He's incredibly powerful and smart, and can work perfectly fine in national or global scale conflicts. So tired of casuals pretending like they know everything about Spider-Man.

>Nobody wants to fucking see Spider Man steer a weapons plane to prevent it from hitting NYC.
Speak for yourself, anon. Looks like a good scene to me. And it's not even the first time Spider-Man would have kept a plane from crashing into the city.

>SM3
>ASM2
>taking Spider-Man out of street level
>even if that's true, implying it's their biggest problems
What?

>>92685007
No I mean she might be loosely based off of Michelle Gonzales from the comics.

>>92685068
>So I guess that Peter going on adventures with the FF and being a member of the Future Foundation and being a teacher at the Jean Grey School and leading a team of junior X-Men was shitty just because it "took him out of his element".

Spider Man was in short limited team ups both those times(also that X-Men book was shitty) so it's passable. Even then they're nothing compared to the street level stories. Hell, the biggest problem with current Spider Man is the fact Slott turned him into Iron Man and has him globetrotting around the world.

>Speak for yourself, anon. Looks like a good scene to me. And it's not even the first time Spider-Man would have kept a plane from crashing into the city.

No it looks shitty and tell your masters at Sony that they fucked up because nobody wants to see Spider Man saving a plane. We didn't like it in TASM2 and we dont like it now.

Iron Manlet Cinematic Universe at its best!

>>92685159
People compalined about that when Avengers was coming and it didn't happens
They complained again about that for age of Ultron and they did it again in Civil Wars and everytime he never stole the show.

Yet people keep predicting he is going to do it in the next cross-over despite always being 100% wrong.

>>92677601
>Blue and orange poster
This need to stop

>>92685204
It's an improvement over Orange and Teal.

>>92685109
>Spider-Man and the X-Men
>shitty
>muh shill dismissal
>thinking i was talking about ASM2 when i mentioned spider-man stopping a plane crash from happening
>thinking that peter stopping an arms dealer and preventing plane crash destruction automatically rockets him out of street level to be on par with parker industries
>so clearly not having a good idea as to what street level actually means

Ah, hello /tv/. I thought that might be you.

Watch the trailers. You see he's doing Street Level stuff. He stopped a bike thief, helped an old lady with directions, & stopping bank robberies.

His main villain is Vulture who's going around salvaging tech from various Avenger operations. They then cobble new tech out the remenants & even steal a cargo plane full of Stark-Tech for the Avengers.

They're not selling stuff to Hydra. They're just a bunch of disgruntal folks that were laid off by Stark buying their workplace.

>>92685395
>He stopped a bike thief
Pretty sure that was just a guy on a bike.

>>92685415
Isn't that enough, though?

>>92685478
...No?

>>92685492
I bet you ride a bike too. typical.

>>92685395

This. What the fuck are you tards on about? Everything in the trailer has been classic Spidey street level stuff.

This isn't Hydra or the Hand let alone Loki, Ultron, or Thanos level. From what they've shown us it's classic Spidey villains doing classic textbook Spidey villain type things that really only threaten NYC and a couple of neighbourhoods at that while the Avengers are presumably off dealing with global threats..

>>92685507
Well, I mean I used to, but the chain broke.

>>92677601
In the same trailer is said that Spiderman is taking charge of "minor problems" that go unnoticed by the Avengers.

>>92685521
>the Avengers are presumably off dealing with global threats
I haven't seen the new trailer, but isn't this pretty much the excuse the Vulture himself uses in the movie? That the Avengers aren't going to bother with a few street level mooks? It did seem odd that Tony then tells Peter there's other people who will deal with the Vulture. Though I suppose he means Shield or something.

>>92685578
Which is how Marvel Street has always worked.

>>92685594
Vulture literally says: "Eight years without any trouble from those bozos over at Stark Tower, and then this little bastard in red tights shows up, and he thinks he can tear down everything I've built"

>>92685192
>he never stole the show
Keep repeating it, we'll forget about the actual movies soon

>>92677601
first he's handed a suit from tony stark then he needs his fat friend to tell him how it works. Why isn't Peter allowed to be smart anymore?

>>92685623
You sound like you are just gay for RDjr.
The new characters were the best part of both of those movies.
Vison/Witch/Quickslav
Spidey/Black Panther/Giant-Man

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Either you keep making solo movies that don't tie into your shared universe and people are asking "SPIDEY IN THE AVENGERS WHEN??"

or

You have shared universe in your movie and people go "UGH NO CONFIDENCE IN YOUR MARQUEE CHARACTER, HUH?"

I don't have a lot of pity for corporations, but damn, sometimes you really are damned if you do or if you don't

>>92685666
>Satan talking about people being damned
I'm scared. Mephisto in the MCU when?

>>92679645
Switch the names so RDJ gets top billing, and Tom Holland is after the "and"

>>92685658
He's a chemist with electronics skills, not Reed Richards.
Remember how Tony had Jarvis install space resistant materials someone else developed in the first movie? Or needed his dad's blueprints for the new powersource metal in the second one?

>>92685623
>Keep repeating it, we'll forget about the actual movies soon
It's true, though. He only is prominent in his titular movies.
In Avengers, the one to steal the show is Hulk and Cap and Hawkeye are more prominent in Avengers 2.You could even argue Vision steal the show and he is only at the end of the movie.

You might maybe have a point in Civil Wars, but even there, he is as the antagonist and cap is clearly more prominent.

>>92685688
>trying to meme that Tony stark will steal the show
>will be proven wrong once again
>will keep doing it anyway.

>>92685658
Peter invented the web-fluid

>>92685658
>Why isn't Peter allowed to be smart anymore?
But he is. He invented the web shooters, invented the formula, and made his sensory filtration goggles. He's also shown to make electronics out of scrap.

>>92679655
>why Spider-Man
Because Sony hurt the brand that much with the previous movie. Not to mention having Tony in here helps solidify it as MARVEL'S SPIDER-MAN! and not just another Sony reboot that no one would give a shit about otherwise.

>>92685808
That and an Iron Man appearance is likely to boost Spidey to the billion dollar mark, the way that WB is trying (and failing) with Batman.

>>92682905
no it's not

>Vulture not a bald elderly man

>>92685879

>implying a 90 year old man wouldn't look retarded in a big metal suit

And Keaton is 65 years old.

>>92685879
It'd be neat if his head was shaved, but I like the direction they're going with Vulture. I'm hard pressed to think of a time where he ever came across as this serious and dangerous. I also just now realized that him scavenging Chitauri remains for the technology to make his weapons and his wings is why he's going to be called Vulture in the movie.

>>92677601
I don't understand why people complain about Tony Stark being in this movie
It makes sense in-universe sense there hasn't really been a mentor in the MCU
And we only see Tony Stark like twice

>>92686055

Also it builds on the tech angle they're taking with this Peter, which is a good way to differentiate the MCU Pete from the others we've had so far.

>>92685007
I bet near the end she paints her hair red and turns out to be MJ all along

Either that or she shows up in an after credits scene

>>92686055
*since

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>>92685958
>I also just now realized that him scavenging Chitauri remains for the technology to make his weapons and his wings is why he's going to be called Vulture in the movie.
Took me a while to understand even when you put it like that.

>>92686081
Why do people insist MJ HAS to be in this movie?

>>92677601
What if Uncle Tony gets shot instead of Uncle Ben?

>>92686106
Because it's a Spiderman movie
They're gonna put MJ in somewhere

>>92686117
Then where the fuck is Uncle Ben?

>>92685958
That would be a good explanation. Watch them say that he is called the vulture because he is picking over the remains of a dying world, or some shit. Then Spiderman is going to spend 3 minutes of screen time mocking his name.

>>92686124
You realize we already had 2 Spider-Man movies without her, right?

And that there was relatively a long period in comics before she appeared (although she was mentionned a lot earlier), right?

>>92686135
Retconned put. Test audiences didn't get enough laughs from him.

>>92686135
Dead. They confirmed it. Peter's motivations for being Spider-Man are still the same.

>>92686141
So you were assuming they wasn't gonna put her in the next one before it got cancelled?

If they was showing whoever that Zendaya is playing so much I'd believe you
But she's been showcased a ton so no way she's not one of the major love interests

>>92686147
>>92686181
So we aren't gonna get someone shot then
I wonder if they're gonna like flashback to that at all

>>92686200
>So you were assuming they wasn't gonna put her in the next one before it got cancelled?
Not what I even implied. But ASM3 having MJ doesn't mean at all Homecoming needs to.

>But she's been showcased a ton so no way she's not one of the major love interests
So possibly a variety of characters other than MJ that fit better with teenage Peter, or an OC, or even not a love interest because that's not a good argument?

>>92686215
They aren't. They're going to skate around it.

>>92686215
They said they wouldn't.

And that's another "damned if you do, damned if you don't" of this movie, people are going to whine either way.

>>92686260
Is anyone really going to whine if Uncle Ben doesn't even get a mention?

>>92686200
>So you were assuming they wasn't gonna put her in the next one before it got cancelled?
Were they? I don't even remember what the fuck was going on with the movies they apparently had planned. There was an Aunt May solo movie or something, a Sinister Six one, and the next Amazing Spider-Man or whatever, right? And something about Black Cat?

>>92686282
I know 4chan is special that way but people are whining in this very thread that the alleged reason they're not having a scene about Ben's death is because the test audience thought it was too dark.

>>92686247
How is it not clear that she's gonna be a love interest?
The only way she isn't MJ is if she's actually Gwen Stacy

>>92686299
I think that girl from that cancer movie played MJ but her scenes got cut

I also think they was gonna make him bisexual too
Sony got fucking weird

>>92686348

>I also think they was gonna make him bisexual too

That was Garfield just trolling people. He did that a lot during and after ASM2's release.

>>92677601
wow billy why did your movie poster get two tony starks?

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>>92686348
>cancer movie
You mean Fault in our Stars? This girl?

>>92686374
Everything about that movie blurred together
All I know is that they cut MJ's scenes

>>92686393
I think so
But it doesn't matter since she got cut

>>92677601
The MCU hasn't understood a character since Winter Soldier.

>>92686408
Weird casting choice, if that was her.

>>92686341
Add the Infinity War cast and we'll have a masterwork here.

>>92679667
They under performed because they were shitty remakes of better movies.

There are so many Spider-Man stories to adapt, and Sony is so stupid that they can't do anything with decades of material. It's fucking psychotic. ASM1 was a soulless remake of Raimi's first movie, ASM2 was a fucking mess and a half, and this is "Hey Guys How Cool Are Iron Man and the The Avengers: The Movie."

I guarantee any anon here could give me a plot to a better Spider-Man movie.

>>92686395

>All I know is that they cut MJ's scenes

They cut out like 45 minutes dude, that movie was 4 hours of shot footage loosely assembled into what could technically be called a movie. It was like watching an entire film of deleted scenes, nothing flowed from one moment to another and none of the plots ever meaningfully connected.

>>92677601
This movie should be called "Is there anything else you need Mr.Stark?"

>>92677666
We've seen Tony in a Iron Man suit twice and that might have been in the same scene
So what's your fucking problem?

>>92686488
>repeatedly disobeys tony
>fights vulture in the end as his own hero in his own suit
>this means the whole movie is about peter sucking tony's dick
Never change, /tv/.

>>92686533
We need Marvel to lose one.

>>92686626
Why the fuck is Stark such an idol and center point for a goddamn Spider-Man movie? Why does Spider-Man, who turned down being an Avenger in the first issue, so cock-hungry to be an Avenger?

>>92686759
>not muh spider-man
Cry harder.

>>92686759
You do realize this isn't the main comic universe?
This is the movie universe
It makes sense that a kid would look up to a group of superheroes that save the world from a goddamn alien invasion

>>92686759
>Why the fuck is Stark such an idol and center point for a goddamn Spider-Man movie?
If you have to ask then you don't actually know Spider-man.

>>92686395
>>92686481
If I'm not mistaken they started filming without a finalized script, hence all the ideas that were filmed but never used

>There's people that think the ASM movies were made with competence and passion and that the franchise should've stayed on that disastrous route

>>92686873

>were made with competence and passion

I can't conceive of someone thinking that after seeing ASM1. That movie's script is almost exactly the most basiuc fucking hero original template ever made, and the parts that deviate are just ripping off Raimi.

That movie is the equivalent of store-brand cereal.

>>92686916
What parts of it ripped off Raimi?

>>92686916
Welcome to capes.

>>92686793
>>92686799
>>92686808

>It's a "/co/ is so defensive of their shitty comic movie that they berate you for wanting it to properly represent the comics" episode

Why are you guys even here if you don't read comics?

>>92677601
Bad poster
But probably more of a /gd/ problem than a /co/ or /tv/ problem

>>92677601
Okay, admittedly that's a terrible poster, I'm still reserving my judgment until the film comes out though.

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>>92677601
Man, colors on this are disgusting. Red, blue, cyan, purple, orange, yellow - it looks like it tries to go for "blue and orange" but can't even pull THAT off right, it's just a fucking mess.
Here's a quick fix attempt, based on colors of the logo - blue, red, yellow.

>>92685693
He has the same academic test scores as Reed Richards.

>>92686962
A direct representation of the comics is impossible

You do realize that the reason we even have a MCU is because of the drastic changes they made to Tony Stark?

I want good stories not just rehashes of old ones

>>92686930

The Lizard being a Diet Green Goblin, right down to the fake father figure thing with Peter. You can argue that it's just being accurate to the character, but Webb shoots the Connors going crazy scenes almost exactly like Raimi did with Norman only much worse.

The fact that Webb is such a fucking hack that he stole the "New Yorkers team up to help Spider-Man because NEWH YAWK" but a thousand times more retarded.

>>92686962

This argument is still fucking stupid. You're arguing that you actually have to turn your brain off and be a blind fanboy that wants accuracy and nothing else or you're a fake fan.

You're literally arguing for people to be dumber and deciding on your own what parts you care about being adapted versus what you don't is betraying the source.

>>92679655
It's not even about a lack of faith, it's Sony REEEEEEing that they "only" make 700mil while the Mouse gets a billion.

Sony didn't disclose the ASM2 budget because it would be absolutely embarrassing compared to its $209mil domestic box.

>>92686962
>Raimifag pretends he's read comics.

>>92686982
All of the faces are in the uncanny valley

I saw multiple different posts on instagram pointing out how bad this poster is.

You know it's bad when normies are calling it out. looks like the some executive's daughter threw it together on her iphone. fucking terrible.

>>92686320
>How is it not clear that she's gonna be a love interest?
How is it clear? He had a platonic female roomate named Michelle before.
>The only way she isn't MJ is if she's actually Gwen Stacy
Her character is nothing like either of them, and I don't even mean her being black.

>>92687013
And it's hilarious because while on one hand it was copying Raimi on the other they came up with all sorts of stupid shit to try come off as "different"

Reminder that uncle Ben got killed because he tried to grab the gun of a chocolate milk thief

>>92677601
Who said anything about saving the world? If anything Vulture's goals seem smaller scale than anything we've seen before in the MCU. He's just running guns, and possibly trying to take out Tony.

>>92685017
The presence of the Tinkerer disagrees.
Also how was that private screening of the movie?

>>92686962
I do read comics. That's why I'm not mad about his high school supporting cast being more accurate to the comics instead of throwing in MJ and/or Gwen AGAIN, and why I appreciate the parallels they're making to Spider-Man's Civil War issues. But I also realize that it's an adaptation, a different incarnation of the character, so I don't feel the need to whine and bitch about how he doesn't line up with his mainstream counterpart perfectly.

>>92687052
>Reminder that uncle Ben got killed because he tried to grab the gun of a chocolate milk thief
And? The idea that Ben dies over some petty shit makes it more tragic.

Does the letter matter more than the spirit?

>>92677834
>>92677666
I think the thing is absolutel garbanzo beans as well but I keep seeing the "RDJ and Iron Man are BOTH on the poster." brought up. I think his dolo is too big compared to hollands, and holland being on his would be a nice science/newton reference (standing on the shoulder of giants). But both him and spidey are clearly there in and out of there suits. as well as keaton.

so of course Stark/Iron Man is there.

there are various problems with the poster. The shitty coloring. The mismatched lighting. The re-used iron man from other posters. The title font is still shit. there's space between spidey's glove but no space between stark and the side. if they lowered the vulture and mae him bigger it would stick out more. I would switch keaton and Zendaya because he looks like a creeper set behind two young women. the ocean shouldn't be more prominent than any face on the poster.

and more.

>>92687046
We've seen her character too many times to just be a friend

>>92687109
>I do read bad comics
FTFY

>>92687110

>Does the letter matter more than the spirit?

...yes?

The execution matters more then the intent. Whatever pathos Webb was going for failed utterly.

>>92687137
Is that really your only argument? Does he fuck Ned too?

>>92687046
>He had a platonic female roomate named Michelle before
She was mostly platonic, until Chameleon fucked the bitchiness right out of her while masquerading as Peter. Then she pretty much fell head over heels for Peter. The power of Chameleon's cock, I guess.

>>92687110
It's a dumb context, yes, i can't take seriously Peter getting mad and not stopping the thief over chocolate milk

But it's not even that, Ben literally fights to grab the gun, fucking why? It's like he was asking to be killed. It's not even a Batman situation where you could argue Thomas attacks the guy to protect his family, the thief clumsily made the gun fall and Ben just happened to be there and thought he was able to overpower him. It's like a senile trying to live a power fantasy

>>92677601
can we all acknowledge that:

1) marketing is pushing Iron Man because everyone loves him and it's Spidey's first MCU solo

2) from what we've seen Tony will only appear in 3-4 scenes (dropping Peter off, conversation about Vulture, Ferry save+taking suit back, final scene where they talk out their issues)

>>92687175
why wouldn't we still give you shit, shill?

IF HER INITIALS ARE MJ THIS MOVIE IS FUCKING DROPPED

>>92687139
Spider-Man's Civil War issues were the only decent ones out of the whole event. But good job outing yourself as a stupid casual who thinks he can move goalposts with a generalized opinion he read on /co/.

>>92687173
>It's a dumb context, yes, i can't take seriously Peter getting mad and not stopping the thief over chocolate milk
But 200 dollars is good enough?

>>92686930
Seriously?
>Entire movie follows the same beats as the first one
>Make Curt Conners have conversations with himself just like Norman
>Same romantic beats, but with less tension
>Same approach to Uncle Ben's death, but twice as stupid and never a sense of Peter truly learning his lesson
>Same beat of "average joe helping out Spider-Man" in the climax, but no where near as well done

The movie hits every beat, but is completely soulless.

>>92687026
Yeah, that's why it's a quick fix, if I was making this properly I'd need something subtler for the faces (perhaps painting them over?)...
Though honestly, this makes me wonder - why does a superhero action movie have so many faces on the poster? It makes it look like a character driven soap opera. Which, to be fair, is not THAT unfair description of Spider-Man comics.

>>92683677
>providing a more cohesive, focused movie.

Have you seen a Marvel movie?

>>92685658
Smart doesn't mean he has money and resources, dumbass.

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>>92687200
>decent

>tony creates ultron
>tony has the same screentime than cap in civil war
>tony is TWICE in a spider-man poster and he's now the mentor of spidey, who has a suit with AI just like him
>out of 15 movies, tony has been a main character in 7
>S-STOP SAYING IT'S AN IRON MAN CINEMATIC UNIVERSE MY FEELINGS DON'T LIKE IT
You guys are so funny

>>92687025
When did he mention Raimi?

What I don't understand is why Peter would idolize Tony Stark.
Peter is a poor science nerd that's not good with girls and moonlights as a superhero that nobody likes.
Iron Man is a rich science industrialist playboy that founds a superhero team that's world famous and popular.
What would Peter aspire to in that?

>>92687160
Ned's not a female

>>92687199
I mean I recognize that the posters are fucking garbage, and the second trailer was absolutely horrible (I like that the new one focuses on stuff people give a shit about i.e. Spidey being Spidey). But in all reality RDJ won't have an enormous role in the film, and from the looks of it they'll actually have a falling out by the end. Which I like, Spidey should be on his own to deal with all the bullshit in his life, having Stark on speeddial would ruin that idea.

>>92687250
I'm pretty sure they're still going for platonic friend, lad, at least for this movie. They've showed no hint of anything romantic and there's already enough shit happening. I don't know, maybe it's naive of me to think that a movie could exist without a dumb romance subplot but the trailers show no indication of it.
And even if she ends up being a love interest that in now way brings weigth to the idea that she's MJ or Gwen just because they're the only 2 ones you know.

>>92687227
But that's all good stuff. All is right in the world.

>>92687246
Is that sarcasm?

>>92687216
I'm pretty sure most of the MCU posters
Captain America's, Thor's
The thing about this one is that the figure that sticks out the most is Tony Stark's face even though it's not the biggest thing on it

>>92687324
No. Explain why Peter would ever want to be like Tony Stark. They're complete opposites and he's not that guy. Peter would ever think to use use his powers for wealth or fame. He's got no interest in that stuff.

>>92687201
3 bucks versus 200? Of course it makes a difference. But in general the wrestling manger ripping off Peter is a more understandable offense than the shop clerk being a meanie

>>92687010
Then why are you praising the MCU? They're all thinly veiled rehashes of old stories with a dash of OC. The only somewhat unique ones are the GOTG movies which simply drew inspiration from a different source for their composition.

>>92687351
Are you really that stupid or just trying to be obtuse? Everyone wants money. Especially someone as poor as Peter. Tony invents stuff and has tons of resources while Peter has to dumpster dive for shit. Also Tony is the leader of the Avengers which he obviously aspires to join.

It's not that difficult to understand. It's not like Peter wants to be a billionaire playboy rather it's the scientist and Avenger aspect he admires.

>>92687025
>Pretend

>>92687376
There's nothing wrong with adapting a storyline
But having everything that happened in the comic appear is impossible and a terrible idea

>>92687351
Peter is exactly that kind of person, kek. You've spent too much time with the Raimi movies.

Peter's always been a real hero, no denying that, but he's wanted to profit from his tech since the beginning.

>>92687223
They were. Care to tell me how they weren't? Tell me your personal, critical opinions on the subject, anon. Tell me why exactly you didn't enjoy Peter's character remaining consistent, how Tony was showed in a more reasonable and understandable light when he explained registration to Peter. Tell me what was so bad about Peter's conflicting stance on registration, how he was proud to finally be operating with the full backing of the law and his family, but still felt that the actions being taken by registration forces were profoundly wrong. Tell me how Peter and Tony's relationship slowly cracking under suspicion and mistrust to be entirely destroyed in a massive betrayal didn't strike you as good drama. Tell me how Back in Black was bad, without memeing about how Peter unveiling his identity was a retarded move when the whole point of it was that it was a retarded move that Tony pressured him into committing to further his agenda.

So go on and tell me why you think they were bad, anon.

>>92687351
Tony is also one of the world's greatest minds who fucking built a suit to save the world in

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>when your lead actor is so ugly you're scared to show his face prominently in case it puts audiences off

RDJ is there to sex up the poster as much as he is to bring in that sweet MCU bank.

To this day, I still question this casting choice. Holland's acting is fine, but for fuck's sake, the kid is not leading man material.

>>92687351
>Peter would (n)ever think to use use his powers for wealth or fame.
Are you for fucking real? That was explicitly the very first thing he did with his powers.

And he idolizes Tony Stark in the MCU for the following reasons:
>tony is the world's most prominent science genius
>a world famous hero
>peter doesn't actually know tony all that well

>>92687227
your the one who seems to have your feefees up in a tizzy

>>92687516

People were saying the same thing about Maguire. Garfield escaped it because he was in stuff like the Red Riding movies in England.

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>>92686341
>that Neil Breen

>>92687516
Idk I'd fuck him but he definitely isn't gonna age well.

>>92687538
He's right though.

>>92687227
>>tony is TWICE in a spider-man poster and he's now the mentor of spidey, who has a suit with AI just like him
>people still don't understand why peter is being mentored and why he has the suit
Is it just hopeless to try and explain it?

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>>92687351
>why would a guy who can't get girls want to get girls?
>why would a poor guy want money?
>why would someone nobody likes want to be liked?

>>92687516
looks and sounds like peter to me, i think its good casting

>>92687462
OMD.

>>92686341
>>92687564

Cast The Breen as a MCU villain.

>>92687227
3 movies that has his character's name in the title
2 in which he's in a group of superheroes that have that group's name in the title
Another in which he is arguably the primary antagonist
And this one which is he mentoring a younger hero which we don't actually know how much of the movie he's in (for all we know Happy is involved as much as Tony is)

>>92687454
That is fair enough. The problem is that what we are aiming for is a middle ground that movies have often completely failed at landing on.

I feel like the better the source material is the more the screenwriters think they know better when they don't. Then we end up with Demon in a Bottle (Iron Man II) and Dark phoenix Saga being almost unrecognizably mutated abominations of their former selves.
Alot of people assume any and all deviation makes fanboy rage and that's fair enough to a degree BUT I have noticed that they generally don't give two shits if you change/retcon the material when you replace it with something just as cool or better. If you fail to replace it with something reasonably as good then of course people are gonna be angry when you serve them something below standard.

I've got a question
What exactly is Steve Roger's status?

Is he basically Snowden now? Or is he like more hated?

I'm pretty sure "Coding with Snowden" wouldn't be shown in any school

>>92687607
Going to have to be a lot more specific. I want opinions on Peter's entire Civil War story line, not just three letters that you seem to think retroactively make something terrible.

>>92687624
>3 movies that has his character's name in the title
>2 in which he's in a group of superheroes that have that group's name in the title
>Another in which he is arguably the primary antagonist
You know, all of this could apply to Captain America as well.

>>92687607
Editorial bailing out like they did has nothing to do with CW or BiB. We know they wanted to get rid of Peter's marriage and "old man" status quo for years

>>92687672
>I want opinions on Peter's entire Civil War story line
It was shit.

>>92687588
Overall this feels like its hitting the Ultimate vibe pretty well.

>>92687720
He's just memeing because he has no opinions of his own.

>>92687670
Public likely doesn't know of the Avengers fallout.

>>92687725
>It was shit.
And why do you think that?

>>92687755
They probably know of his fugitive status though

>>92684734
>I was an avengers movie.
Which one?

>>92678119
It's a type of Mary Jane

>>92679450
Then there was that time doc ock went crazy.

Not to mentionnall the avengers teamups

>>92687750
Says the anon who defends CW because muh MCU.

>>92687939
I'm defending Spider-Man's Civil War issues because I enjoyed them. Literally the opposite of memeing due to a lack of opinions.

>>92688019
>defending Spider-Man's Civil War issues
Seriously, this must be the first time I ever see this. And I've been in /co/ for many years. Hmmm, too much coincidence.

>>92687429
>>92687455
>>92687580
Not in the comics you don't read.

Did Tony Stark build a Spider-Man suit in less than 6 hours?

>>92688065
>Seriously, this must be the first time I ever see this
Then the worst case scenario is that I have shit taste, not that I don't have my own opinions. But if Spider-Man's Civil War issues are so universally reviled, surely it must be trivial to tell me why? Why do you think they're bad?

>>92677601
He's trying to stop the Vulture. I don't know where you're getting "saving the world" from that...

>>92688104
It was something bound to be retconned sooner or later, like Peter and MJ's child. Or rebooted, in this case.

>>92688134
You keep dancing around actually giving any detailed opinions on Peter's Civil War story line. For what reason, I wonder?

>>92687351
Spider Mobile

>>92687576
It's hopeless because it's clearly to make some cash and makes zero sense character wise

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>>92684975

>>92688181
Because I read that shit too long ago and I'm not going to reread it again.
>shilling Sony
Oh, /co/...

>>92684701
it's the same movie structure
Pym is Tony in Ant-man and Strange is Tony in Dr Strange

>>92677601
>Marveldrones out there claiming this is Spider-Man at it's core, and it's gonna be the best Spidey movie evur

This annoys more than anything desu

>>92688188
>makes zero sense character wise
Kek really? It makes zero sense for guilt ridden Tony to take a promising young hero and invest in him as a way to compensate for his shortcomings? It makes zero sense for Tony to outfit Peter with a suit literally designed to be training wheels, complete with autodeploying parachute and an advisory AI?

Okay bud.

>>92688072
You can't be fucking serious.
Peter uses his powers all the fucking time to get money. It's how he gets his damn job at the Buggle, even a casual like you should know that. Sure he's still poor but he'd like not to be.
And then there's that whole more recent Parker Inc. thing where he's basically Tony Stark.

He also progresses over time and is pretty damn good at getting girls. Hell by like issue 20 of the Lee/Ditko run he's beating them back with a stick.

He's also had a lot of attempts at becoming more popular, with varrying degrees of success.

Seriously stop pretending, Raimifag.

>>92688233
>Marveldrones and Sonydrones
Fixed.

>>92688233
There's no helping these guys, they keep buying spider-man comics for fucks sake

>>92677601
Wait, does Zendaya not have a first name?
Or a last name?
Why is she just "Zendaya"?

>>92688072
His first interaction with the Fantastic Four is him attacking them, then leaving all pissed because they won't pay him if he joins them

>>92688253
Exactly, zero sense

>>92677601
>Sigh. I thought the MCU understood their characters?
Hahah no but fortunately for the MCU, modern Marvel understands their characters even less. So in comparison, they look acceptable

>>92688072
He tries to sell his webfluid , but no one buys it since it dissolves in an hour or so

>>92688253
Also if Tony Stark isn't in this movie what the fuck is he doing in the MCU?

>>92688222
More like you never read it and only know what you've learned via osmosis from /co/ memesters.
>muh baseless shill dismissal because i have no argument
Please go back to /tv/ and die there, you pathetic casual.

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Don't want to be a contrarian but ASM2 was the truest to comics Spider-man movie I've seen in my life.

It even had shitty tie-ins and goofy villains.

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>>92688276
She's a singer.

>>92687576
Peter doesn't need a mentor, and Peter should be the one coming up with spider-man's quirks, not fucking Tony.

>friendly neighborhood spider-man coined by tony
>spider signal a tony invention

I actually really like how Tony has a character arc that covers all the movies, but fuck, he really didn't need to be in spider-man, and I'm hoping that once he takes the suit away he just fucks off from the moivie so the story gets halfway decent.

>>92688307
Yeah, you're going to have to explain that one to me.

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>>92688277
That's also literally Amazing Spider-Man #1, hilariously enough.

>>92688065
>>92688104
Bullshit, it's generally agreed to be one of the few good things to come out of CW

>>92688253
All this after involving him in the Civil War events before training him at all? Top lel this shit gets worse every time I think about it

>>92688323

That has nothing to do with the quality of the movie, though.

I'll never understand fanboys who want fidelity to the source over a good movie.

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>>92688323
It had the best live action suit. This Iron Spider with female Jarvis and basketball lines is a fucking abortion.

>>92688378
The /tv/fag doesn't actually know anything about comics.

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>>92688321
>YOU DIRTY CASUAL REEEE

>>92688402
>That has nothing to do with the quality of the movie, though.
Did I write something about quality though?
Still, at its core the movie isn't that bad. It's only really bad because it went nowhere. Feels more like a cool pilot episode to me.

>>92688382
>Tony getting desperate, gets a kid to help
>Sees Pete get absolutely fucked in a real fight
>Realizes he needs training
>Trains him after feeling guilty for bringing him into this

>>92688435
Kinda the same problem Iron Man 2 had

>>92688333
You do realize that this isn't the comics and those things are kinda stupid in itself

>>92688421
You don't really have room to talk, anon, when you accuse people of shilling all willy-nilly.

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>>92688531
Shilling? Me? I don't even watch cape movies. I'm just enjoying these meltdown threads.

>>92688382
Yeah, he brought Peter in to the terribly dangerous conflict that was a brawl with other heroes. The only really dangerous element there was Bucky, and Peter handled him easily enough. Tony also made Peter tap out when it was clear Peter couldn't go on.

>>92688500
Peter here is still immature
He took on Captain America and Winter Soldier and should have won those fights if he had been smarter
It's a good enough reason for needing a mentor

>>92688569
Sure anon, whatever you say.

>>92688500
>he knows better than anyone where the "path of the hero" leads to
>"mmm this 15 year old kid is slightly stronger than a normal kid and can climb very good, better give him an armor and put him to patrol the streets if NY at night"
>"y'know what, forget that, I'll take the suit away now lol"
The chances of this movie not being shit decrease with every post

>>92688599
>only slightly stronger
>ignoring his ridiculous super strength
>ignoring his super reflexes, agility, and equilibrium
>ignoring his danger sense
>ignoring his web fluid
>ignoring the fact that he basically operates in a 3-D combat environment, even more so than most flying heroes
Man if you're going to shitpost at least be accurate about it.

>>92688506
How are they stupid? What?

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>>92688599
>4chan posts influence the quality of a movie that's already made

>>92679645
10/10
Marvel Studios approves

>When executives are so out of touch with reality that they're scared Spider-man could ever possibly fail. Specially being on the MCU

Why are these people still in charge?

>>92688599
>Only slightly stronger than a normal boy

>Stops a car going 130 mph inches away from hitting a bus effortlessly

>>92688803
Didn't ASM2 flop?

>>92688065
You are the first time I saw anyone complain about them. The only criticism I have ever heard other than you was that they did this great storyline about spider-man unmasking, promised it was for realsies this time, and then promptly sold his marriage to Satan to make the thing pointless.

>>92688830
> *While blind

>>92688832
They claim it did but I assume it's a case of retarded expectations. It made a retarded amount of money, but it wasn't 20 billion dollars

>>92688832
Absolutely not, it made 700+million dollaroos

BUT people always forget how silly successful the Spiderman movies are, TASM2 made all those money but it's the lowest selling of the franchise. Adjusted for inflation both SM1 and 3 made more than a billion, to put things in perspective

These anons are wrong imo saying they're inserting RDJ because they're scared Spidey by himself won't make enough money, as others pointed out it's most likely because it's a good way to convince even more people to get on those seats and to make it clear that this is part of the MCU and not another meaningless reboot from the same people that brought the other one

>>92688895
Well how much did they spend to make it and how much did it make?

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Tom actually went to my HS to prepare for his role.

He was in my AP calc class for a week, he's nice but bad at math.

>>92688843
>implying that wasn't a great deal

>>92688960
>Budget $200-293 million[3][4]
>Box office $709 million[5]

I can see why they call it a flop.

>>92688963
That's nice.

>You'll never be an young looking actor having to tell the kids you've been hanging around with you were Spider-man all along

I'd probably shit myself if I was a student.

>>92689067
Legit he told us all he was spiderman and no one believed him

>>92689067
I actually might still have his number lemma check

>>92686395
When they cut to the cafe at the end during the Rhino scene you can actually see her. They were so fucking discombobulated.

>>92677601
Is everyone worried that Peter is gonna become Tony's sidekick despite having more agency than Captain America did in his first and second movies

>>92679645
Marvel does it again

>>92689209
Because that's not true

this movie looks like complete shit

>>92689209
No one is.

Tony stark has never hogged the screen when not in his own titular movies. No reason it start now.

>>92677601
This poster hurts my eyes.

>>92677601
Why do they keep casting Jon Favreau in stuff? Don't they know he can't actually act and he's best as a director?

What's a zendaya?

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>>92689311
a jojo reference

>>92685860
Nice argument

>>92689297
He's playing the same role he's had since the first MCU movie
Not sure why the problem is

>>92677601
>I thought the MCU understood their characters?
There's no way by this point that anyone actually thinks this way.

>>92687200
Incorrect, F4 and Frontline were the only decent ones.

>>92689341
Zenyatta Mondatta is a music reference you fucking idiot.

>>92689297
He's just playing Jon Favreau anyway.

>>92688963
Why did he have to do that to "prepare for" his role? Are British high schools really that different?

On that note, did he speak with his cute accent?

>>92689297
He stopped directing MCU movies but i think he's still working with them as a producer. He's fine as happy anyway

Good thing I'm not seeing this in theaters, how many of you guys own an Amazon Firestick and have Kodi with the Exodus add on?

>>92689650
I think I'll just go see it in theaters.

>>92689854
Good goy.

>>92689866
I like watching movies in theaters. Mainly because I don't have to pay.

>>92688599
>better give him an armor and put him to patrol the streets if NY at night"
He was already doing himself that you actual retard.
If anything, Tony was trying to keep him safer doing that.

THEN Petey decides to go do really dangerous shit,like actual super villains so he takes the suit

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>>92679713
>Iron Man 4: Iron Man 3
kek

>>92688963
Well, he did say that he doesn't believe physical bullying is a thing anymore.

You should pay some really tough fuckers to beat him up for the sake of this movie.

>>92691759
Flash not being a chad anymore actually does upset me. Something I always liked about Peter's bullying struggles is that they were physical, and that before Peter became Spider-Man he was powerless to stop them. But after he became Spider-Man he believed he had to endure it, that using his powers on Flash would be sabotaging himself in a lot of ways.

That kind of goes away when it looks like Peter could cream Flash even without super strength.

>inb4 peter stands up to flash early on in his book
I know, I'm talking more along the lines of Spectacular Spider-Man and the Spidey comic, and Marvel Adventures. Does he beat Flash up in Ultimate? I remember Ultimate Peter having something of an attitude.

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Needs more Iron Man/Tony Stark/RDJ.