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Why does /co/ think they're more important than the kids that cartoons are aimed at?
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/co/ is so bitter about not being the target audience, they literally claim kids don't watch cartoons.
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>>92596172
With this show specifically?
>Original show was targeted towards teens and tween and children to an extent
>Fanbase grows up
>CN announces sequel show
>They put a recognizable name on it to draw in the nostalgia crowd and then take away everything the nostalgia crowd likes about it

And now for a more important question.
Why use this property to target at kids if the fanbase is mostly adults and teenagers?
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>>92596323
>>Original show was targeted towards teens

Yes, that TV-Y7 was certainly made for teenagers.
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>>92596172
That's teen titans.
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>>92596323
Because the kids of today can enjoy what the kids of yesteryear enjoyed? The TMNT fanbase is predominately adult yet no one complains of new series coming out every few years.
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>>92596172
Because I have better taste than eight year olds
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Reboots should always target the original audience or else you get retarded shit like nu-PPG which has no audience at all.
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>>92596323
>>Original show was targeted towards teens
Not at all
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>>92596323
>sequel show
And that's where you fucked up
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>>92596400

>I have better taste than eight year olds
>watches children's cartoons

oh honey...
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>>92596172
despite popular belief, /co/ is actually populated by what the world calls "humans" and they are a nasty selfish lot.
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>>92596172
Because, even though I'm almost thirty, a lifetime of disappointment and failure has resulted in an indefinitely prolonged adolescence. I enjoy childish entertainment because it reminds me of a time in my life when I felt I had a chance of not growing into the man I became.

I hate myself but lack the strength to change.
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>>92596323
The thread is about all children's cartoons, not just TTG.
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>>92596474
I agree with this, and it's the reason I still enjoy children's cartoons. I don't complain about them or demand they change to suit my needs, because I already enjoy them.
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Children are awful and I hate the fact that I used to be one.

There's this meme that says Teenagers are worse but that simply isn't true.

At least you can have a conversation with one.

Although honestly anyone under 35 all have their "limitations"
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>>92596384
>e the kids of today can enjoy what the kids of yesteryear enjoyed? The T
They can't understand or enjoy any of the parody of the old show they do because the majority of the kids today haven't seen the original show, and they aren't enjoying the same thing as they were ten years ago.
>One is an action cartoon with character development (maybe not good character development but it's there) with eastern influences
>The other is a sitcom-style episodic comedy and couldn't be more western if it put on a cowboy hat and fired revolvers into the air.
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>>92596323
I get a raging erection every time they rip on the old TT fans who have this opinion. I had to call a doctor the day the episode where they dubbed new lines over old footage for most of the episode aired because my erection would not go down
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>>92596680
>an episode where they put on cowboy hats and fire revolvers in the air

I work at CN, thanks for doing my storyboard work for the next episode for me
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>/co/ implying shows like Dexter's Laboratory and the original PPG weren't just as crazy and over-the-top as TTG.
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>>92596478
I know, but I figured this would give a glimpse into other similar shows that I have this problem with, like the new PPG, obviously, this doesn't apply to shows like that in every way but some of the general premises still apply.
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>>92596805
Yeah, but they were crazy and over the top in subtle and interesting ways, it wasn't just a constant barrage of cheap rendem humorz becuz thts wut kids want and we only have 10 minutes to write a script.
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>>92596478
>Implying little jimmy turned on Justice League when he came home from school and not reruns of Spongebob

Don't be stupid and say that Superhero cartoons aren't by capeshit fans for capeshit fans, because they totally are
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>>92596172
>/co/
>not being entitled manchildren
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>>92596400

You literally still watch childrens' cartoons as a fucking adult. You have no room to speak on "taste".
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>>92596550
No, teenagers are human shit, I fucking hate them so much.
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>>92596172
We have the money and no kids.
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>>92596356
Hey buddy, this your first time baiting?
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Autists throw fits you should just ignore them and stop watching cartoons
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I personally don't hate TTGO and the like, I only dislike TTGO, but the way I see it, if we let kids watch these kinds of shows with their blatant lulz random humor, then they grow up having that kind of humor, which could even potentially have an impact on their overall personality. It's not a direct answer to your question, but it's something.
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Because they want their kids to be given better stuff this this.

Thats why.
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>>92597408
Why out of curiosity?

Is it because you are one?
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>>92598238
>Because they want their kids to be given better stuff this this.
Even the "all the good stuff should be on Adult Swim" folks?
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>>92598079
If you honestly think TTGO is going to be responsible for adults with terrible personalities you're just as bad as soccer moms.

Ren & Stimpy didn't doom the current generation, TTGO is even more harmless.
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>>92598299
You know how many 8 year olds watch Family Guy? It's why they brought back Toonami.

In short, yes.
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>>92598238
Nobody who spergs out about shows like these does it for the children. They only want the content to be changed because it either rapes their nostalgia or because they can't bear the thought that not everything will have something that makes references that adults would understand.

This doesn't only happen in cartoons. Anything that is meant to only cater to little children's immaturity is always met with a bunch of autistic adults that demand that thing to either be changed, banned or cancelled.

Want to get angry at shows that are supposedly meant to be educational? Sure. But shows and series like TTGo are meant for pure entertainment. Kids deserve shows that cater to their sense of humor and don't pretend to be anything but entertainment even if they don't appeal to your grown ass.
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>>92596172
I'm don't know about everyone else, but it's because I used to be, and knowing that I've outgrown a crucial part of my childhood that I can never reclaim is kind of upsetting. I can't really articulate my feelings that well but that's the best way I can put it I guess.
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>>92596405
Case in point, Nu-DuckTales.
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>>92598379
So people are demanding all the good kid's shows be moved to adult swim specifically because they want good shows for their kids?

The logic doesn't add up.
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>>92596440
>Says the guy who is posting on /co/
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>>92597368
Why are you even here on /co/? And don't give me that "Oh well I'm here for comic books" bullshit.
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>>92596172
>kids that cartoons are aimed at

I asked my 12 year-old brother what he though about TTG, and he straight up told me he and his friends thought it was cringe-y as fuck and forced memeage.

I haven't watched a lot of it, but from what I've seen, it tosses in throwbacks to Teen Titans stuff from the old show, and the color-schemes seem like it's more aimed at kids aged 5-10.
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>>92599520
Adult Swim and cartoons aimed at adults exist.
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>>92599530
>I asked my 12 year-old brother what he though about TTG, and he straight up told me he and his friends thought it was cringe-y as fuck and forced memeage.
TTG is aimed at 7-11 year olds. Your brother is a year too old.

Also, one anecdotal experience doesn't represent the entire child population.
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>>92596280
I work with kids and kids don't watch cartoons. They watch youtubers. Nobody has cable and kids are too lazy to look for and choose different shows to watch on netflix and hulu so they just watch youtubers and every related video until bed time. Its sad but thats the way it is. Cartoons are basically for adults now. Kids are watch Lets Plays of "Bendy and the Ink Machine" which I might add is the worst, most boring and poorly made "game" I've ever seen.
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>>92598487
But why does said entertainment have to be so trite? Why can't it have actual thought put into it?

TTG vs. TT is a great example, but there are more.
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>>92599685
>kids are too lazy to look for and choose different shows to watch on netflix and hulu

We need to kill this generation holy shit.
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>>92596172
I literally don't know a fucking child that watches cartoons.
It's a dying art m8's
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>>92599685
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>>92599774
-> >>92599777
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>>92599685
Why would anyone watch let's play videos at all? Can someone explain the appeal to me? I mean, why not just play the game yourself?

At least with reaction videos (which I do watch sometimes) there's the factor of seeing it again "for the first time", which is obviously impossible to do yourself. But games are mostly designed to be replayable (and those that aren't well-designed in this sense suck anyway).
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>>92599685
>kids don't watch cartoons

This. The cable industry is dying (except for the "crushing Net Neutrality to stay alive" part), and kids are only going for what they can watch for free.
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>>92599789
Minecraft has turned an entire generation of children autistic. It's the only explanation.
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>>92596172
4chan is assholes
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>>92596172
Non-cartoon watcher here.

I work at an advertising firm. Kids literally don't watch TV these days.

>>92596280
They don't. The pre-K demographic is all on youtube now.
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>>92599685
>>92599790
>>92599867
Congratulations on demonstrating the exact sense of entitlement this thread was created to point out.
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>>92599867
>The pre-K demographic is all on youtube now.

They're retarded babies. Literally, I'm not even being vitriolic when I say that. It's just what they are. There's no reason to assume they won't normalize a bit when they get older. I certainly watched more Power Rangers and Sesame Street than I did cartoons when I was that age. Cartoons are more for the elementary school demographic.
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>>92599867
>preschoolers are all on the internet now

LATE GEN X AND EARLY MILLENNIALS

BEST AT BEING PARENTS
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>>92596172
the argument: "cartoon is allowed to be shitty because it's for kids/tweens" was bad when damage controllers pulled it for YJ and is still bad now
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>>92599966
There's a difference between being genuinely shitty and just not appealing to nostalgia-biased adults.
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>>92599708
The original Teen Titans is aimed at slightly older children and their families, the smarter writing is going to be a given.

TTGo is meant to be mindless fun and it's aimed at little kids, a demographic that isn't going to sit down and analyze an episode or discuss it beyond the basic "X character was very funny in this episode!" or similar statements.

I'll answer your question with another question: Why can't something have no thought put into it? TTGo and similar shows aren't pretending to teach anything to children.
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>>92599867
I don't think this thread was about preschool shows.
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>>92600038
>I'll answer your question with another question: Why can't something have no thought put into it? TTGo and similar shows aren't pretending to teach anything to children.

Wrong tho. TTGO teaches kids about important stuff like building equity and how to avoid a pyramid scheme.
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>>92599685
I know kids. I also know people who work with kids, who confirm they still watch cartoons. And I've never, ever heard of this "Bendy and the Ink Machine" game. Whatever the fuck is going on with the kids in your area must be a regional trend.
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>>92599966
I never heard this for YJ, only ever that Family Guy rip off Spiderman series.
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>>92599685
>>92600091
I just looked up the game and it looks very cartoony. I guess kids are still attracted to the cartoon style if your story is real.
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>>92600073
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I thought the Pyramid Scheme episode was funny. It's much more interesting than reading a boring Wikipedia article.

The equity one (Finally a Lesson) was decent, but the fourth wall breaking stuff was annoying.
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Wow, so many salty people in this thread.
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>>92599685
I have kid sisters that watch Steven Universe, Harvey Beaks, Clarence, and We Bare Bears, along with Youtube videos too. They know how navigate sites like Kisscartoon and Watchcartoononline. We can't afford cable these days so they stick to the Internet, so I guess you're partly right. However, I've never heard of Bendy outside of /co/
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>>92600583
I've never heard of Bendy outside this very thread.
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>>92599789
Why watch someone playing a sport? Or cook? Or fuck someone in a porno? Why not just do it all yourself?

Serious answer; it's sometimes fun to see what other peoples' reactions are to various parts of a game. For more open world games, people typically take different approaches and maybe you want to see what that guy does. For other games it's just fun to kinda be along for the ride. And for other stuff still, maybe you can't afford the game but still want to see it, or maybe it's a game you never considered getting so you want to see what it has to offer before actually buying it.

There are quite a few games I've ended up buying specifically because I watched a Let's Play of it, and thought it looked like good fun. And there are quite a few games I DIDN'T buy because an LP reveals it's a horrid piece of shit.

It also certainly helps if the Let's Player is entertaining to listen to. Sometimes, if the game someone's playing isn't of particular interest to me but I still enjoy listening to them yammer on, I'll just put the video on in the background while I do other stuff.
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>>92596172
Aaron, is that you? Get off the fucking internet. You already made 4 episodes of the show to try to get that point across, and poorly, I might add.
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>>92600820

Asshat with no idea of what's going on here.

Three episodes of trying to mock people who take things seriously? What?

All I've heard about TTG is that it's radioactive cancer trash, so I barely even know a thing about it.
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>>92598379
>You know how many 8 year olds watch Family Guy?
So kids DO still watch cartoons then?
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>>92596280
>they literally claim kids don't watch cartoons.
Sorry anons, you can't argue against facts. Not saying cartoons should pull a 180 and focus soley on adults, but kids are not watching cartoons anymore.
http://variety.com/2015/tv/features/kids-tv-strategy-nickelodeon-disney-digital-1201582874/
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>>92599814
>this 15yo chickenhead I know who's been glued to minecraft and battlefield since he could use a computer
>When he's not playing he's watching my country's version of pewdiepie
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>>92599685
Accurate. Animation is a dying art. Why put a hundred hours into animating one 11 minute cartoon and get like a million views when you can screech like a retard at a video game for half an hour and get the same results.

>>92599789
I watch letsplays because I like the content some creators bring to the table, its not just watching the game. But the majority of mainstream creators just screech like retards and act brain dead on camera.
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>>92599789
>Why would anyone watch let's play videos at all?
I watch let's plays while I draw. I can enjoy the visuals and story without having to waste time on gameplay.
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>>92601799
Why not just watch a movie
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>>92601992
To be clear I watch let's plays with no commentary so I only hear the background sfx and occasional voice acting, the story doesn't have the same kind of economy to it that a movie has so I don't have to be 100% focused to follow. Meanwhile I can enjoy watching the character walk through lush scenarios and feel inspired by the design work. I watch stuff like Dishonored, Souls, Bloodborne, Horizon Zero Dawn, Bioshock, Witcher, and so on. I'm sure I'd be super bored if I actually played them.

If I put on a movie I feel compelled to pay full attention to it unless my plan is to pause on certain shots and draw studies, also they don't last very much while I can start a LP playlist and have it run through most of the evening.
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I think TTG is pretty funny. I'm 30. There is plenty of animated content for adults. Analyze that.
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>>92602500
TTG is an OK kids' show, I'll never understand the hate boner /co/ has for it, especially when it doesn't have nearly as much presence on the board as actual cancer like SU
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>>92599789
Let's Plays are just radio talk shows or podcasts.
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No one even talks about this show here. It has nothing to offer any adult outside of the occasional obscure reference.
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>>92602545
Ah, that's a great point - because I don't understand the appeal of podcasts either. I'd much rather read a transcript (or even better, an article) and absorb the information like 100x faster.

Talk shows are a bit different IME because they tend to invite a more diverse crowd on the set, though with media consolidation that's changing.
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>read the thread
>find no answers to OP's questions
Oh well, maybe anther day.
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>>92602517
>hate boner /co/ has for it
>implying
It's a vocal minority of autists that are mad about them using the characters for a goofy comedy spin-off, instead of making season 6 of the old show.

If the writing was identical and the characters were called notRaven, notRobin, etc. no one would've gotten mad.
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>>92601380
TV may be on decline, but the amount of kids who still watch TV is far, FAR greater than the amount of basement dwellers who still watch kid's shows. So you can quit this "cartoons are practically for adults now" bullshit.
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>>92604011
>the amount of kids who still watch TV is far, FAR greater than the amount of basement dwellers who still watch kid's shows
This!
Adult fandoms for cartoons exist on a tiny corner of the Internet that may as well not exist as far as far as networks are concerned. You can argue all you want about how kids aren't watching TV anymore, but adult fans - let alone /co/ - fucking PALE in comparison to them.
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>>92596323
I dislike TTG (though it admittedly has some funny episodes), but it never claimed to be a reboot or a continuation of the original. It's a fast paced, comedic spin-off.
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When I first saw this thread, I expected it to be filled with stuff like "just because it's for kids, is not an excuse to include content I personally think is crap" or "target audiences are redundant, they should just target everyone".

Instead, people are unironically doing the very thing OP was talking about, and trying to argue that /co/ is more valuable than kids.

There was also an anon claiming the people who demand everything be moved to Adult Swim were doing so for the sake of kids.

It's no wonder /co/ was ranked as one of the dumbest boards on 4chan.
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>>92596172
I dare say the "adults" of /co/ are still more in tune with kids' tastes than some places. Most here just want cartoons to be entertaining and hold their interest and have waifus and good animation.

Honestly, adults making cartoons for themselves under the guise they're for kids is pretty cancerous to kids' cartoons. Of course there's room for animation for adults but in the US particularly that's a foreign concept, so you still get people having to try and market their ideas for cartoons that aren't really meant for kids TO kids, who are just bored stiff by them. It would be great if a more serious (i.e. not fucking Seth McFarlane shows) adult animation sector took off in the US so people could actually make the shows they want and kids shows could be for kids again, but I don't see it happening.
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