Now that the honeymoon period is over, can we all agree

>>92590079
SAMURAI JACK FINALE WAS WORSE!

Lots of plotholes

But gets forgotten because muh nostalgia 80s and muh fun

>>92590079
We're not hivemind, faggot.

>>92590109
>plotholes
such as

No one on /co/ liked it because the messages about fathers and family don't resonate with people who grew up with just single mothers.

>>92590109
What plotholes?

Also I loved the movie. Like a two hour Farscape episode. Very different from the first which was rather straight forward all things considered.

>>92590129
Quill's mom's death was entirely unnecessary.

It was one of the better Marvel movies, which means it's still entertaining for the time but largely forgettable overall.

>>92590109
>muh fun
Is "Being fun" now considered a meme? Jesus fuck, what isn't a meme to you people?

>>92590079
No, it was pretty solid. Developed characters more, most jokes hit, soundtrack had Glen Campbell, Kurt Russel never failed to impress, and despite trying to be meme-y it didn't waste too much screentime.

>>92590079
No.

>>92590168
Not a plot hole though

>>92590168
I don't think you know what a plot hole means, anon

In fact I just think you're kinda stupid

>>92590205
Still shit writing.

>>92590214
Now you're just moving the goalposts

>>92590079
I didn’t think it was funny. Only laughed at two jokes. Only thing I really enjoyed was Yondu’s plot.

People actually defend that stupid pac man shit.

>>92590079
Age of Ultron was the same movie recreated BUT with more of the first movie's flaws.
GOTG 2 was the same movie recreated BUT with more of the first movie's strengths.

>>92590176
>Is "Being fun" now considered a meme?

Fun is a buzzword.

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>>92590079

the structure of GOTG2 was not only different from GOTG but most MCU movies, wasn't just about chasing the main bad guy who has stolen the infinity gem, the main bad guy isn't even revealed until the third act

>>92590168
That's not a plot hole at all, nobody ever said her death was necessary. It was clear that Ego killed her purely because he wanted to sever his attachment to her.

>>92590214
I don't think you even understand what can be "Shit Writing"

>>92590079
>when you make a maymay image but haven't actually watched the movie

It's nothing like the first

>>92590079
How is Vol. 2 the same movie as the first one?

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It's the most obnoxious movie I ever sat though in a theater. Till now I've just been tolerating MCU but now I'm completely done with capeshit.

>>92590274

nice meme

>>92590079

Butt hurt DC fag

>>92590327
How is it a meme?

>>92590341
Kill yourself company warrior.

>>92590327
How is that a meme? Do you make a habit of using terms you don't understand?

>>92590374
>How is that a meme?
It's called shitposting, /co/ is full of it and yet people always fall for it

/co/ is the most easily baited board on 4chan

I'm gonna be a contrarian because it's fun to be salty on the internet.

>>92590414
But...it was...

>>92590422
I'm gonna blindly defend a movie and tell anyone who criticizes it they're wrong because I'm a manchild that centers my entire life around capeshit

>>92590414
>Because that isn't explained at all in the movie.

Except Ego says it

> I went back to Earth three times to see her, I knew if I went back a fourth I'd never leave

>>92590321
holy fuck do i ever agree, what a terrible fucking time i had, only like 2 jokes made people laugh in the theater and the rest left awkward silences also what a shit story

>>92590414
I know you're being retarded on purpose and I'm equally retarded for responding to you, but you literally see his mom die in the beginning of the first movie.

>>92590414
Why isn't
>making memey pictures
on the list?

>>92590408
There is a lot of shitposting going on today, much more than usual really. Did something happen?

>tfw you will never ever be able to hug Rocket and tell him everything will be fine

>>92590475
Why not just bring her to your planet? Why did she have to stay on Earth?

Oh wait the shit writers didn't explain that.

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>>92590252
>Laughed at two jokes

Batman would be disappointed with you.

>>92590505
Samurai Jack ended and the Wonder Woman movie is coming

>>92590510
it did mean he'd give up on Universal Conquest.
That's why he killed her, to keep himself from giving up-

>>92590079
>can we all agree
All variations of this in OP posts should be fucking filtered as spam to stop the post being submitted.

I think we can all agree on that.

>>92590521
>WW is coming
That would explain all of the company wars threads
>Jack ended
Oh yeah, I need to watch that when I get home, the majority of /co/ must be seething right now. Thanks anon

TIL Disney shills work on Sundays too

>>92590414

He flat out said that's why he put the tumor in her.

>>92590079
>critics give you a pass
Citation. Nearly every mainstream critic I've heard cited the "more of the same" aspect as a negative.

>>92590505
Samurai Jack hit the end and they've all lost their minds.

>>92590510
Because he didn't want to be attached to someone as much as he was.

>>92590510
He was truly in love with her but he concluded she was a distraction. Bringing her with him would not have solved that problem.

I'm starting to question if you even watched the movie?

>>92590135
Actually, murricans seem to be so obsessed with fathers precisely for the high rate of divorces

>mommy, where's daddy?

>>92590607
Head canon AKA shit that was spelled out for you in the movie you fucking autist.

>>92590079
>same movie

But it wasn't.

>>92590079
>can we all agree
No, fuck off. Go piss off your friends with your "can we all agree" bullshit instead of stinking up a board.

>>92590607
Yeah we get it. Big trolly troll man. So smart.

>>92590564
Do WB shills ever get to sleep? It seems like it's a requirement that there must be a 'support the directors cut extended universe' thread up along with no less than 2 ' lol marlel sukz' threads. I hope they are at least paying you guys with something more than penuts.

>>92590607

>>I went back to Earth three times to see her, I knew if I went back a fourth I'd never leave.

That's straight from the movie. Then he confesses to fucking up her biochemistry to kill her so temptation was gone.

>>92590353
>>92590374
>>92590408
>>92590414
>>92590448
>>92590475
>>92590495
>>92590501
>>92590565
>>92590607
>>92590632

I'm using meme CORRECTLY you autists.

meme means anything you don't like.

I know this to be true, because it's the only way I see meme used on 4chan.

>>92590564
Probably Disney shills are illegal immigrants or chinks so they don't have human rights

>>92590549
You know, this little variation came from /v/, so guess who are the faggots who probably make these kind of company war threads in the first place?

>>92590632
>>92590636
>>92590645
It wasn't explained. You're literally just making assumptions

>>92590674
>to fucking up her biochemistry

He says "It broke my heart to put that tumor in her head"

>>92590607
I bet you're one of those assholes who goes on and on about "show, don't tell."

>>92590701
i agree the movie was shit and the story was shit but theres enough evidence to make safe assumptions

It was better than the first.

The real problems with the movie is that groot is now just a mascot to sell toys, Drax is a one dimensional character, and Gamora has no character.

>>92590135

Dude, the whole message is that "family" isn't solely defined by blood.

Though I guess that doesn't resonate either, considering /co/ spends their days alone in their bedrooms with just their computers for company.

>>92590758
>groot is now just a mascot to sell toys,

lampshaded in the film with the ravagers calling him mascot. Teen groot will be less marketable and probably more like a proper character.

>Drax is a one dimensional character,

His development with Mantis is set up.

>and Gamora has no character.

She learns to love her sister, which is a character arc.

>>92590842
>all these literally nothing plots

>>92590701
>>92590738
Not even an assumption, litterally stated through dialogue. If you were taking a piss at that moment or were to autistic to pay attention then it's your fault you didn't get that.

>>92590868
im not saying it wasnt stated, im just saying any questions he was left with could be safely assumed

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>92590821
>All this /v/ level of stupidity.

Does it make you that upset that people hate your movies, eh underage snyderfaggot?

And before you say anything, no, Snyder is not the representative at all of the best quality of DC, fag.

>>92590821
>so autistic that you think everybody with a positive opinion on a Marvel movie is a Disney shill

>>92590906
That's the state of warner babies anon, they don't have much to cheer about so they need to try and bring everyone down to their level of unhappy, just ignore him and he'll wander off to some other thread.

>>92590758
>groot is now just a mascot to sell toys
What can you really do with a tree monster who only says three words? Baby Groot is slightly better than him just being Rocket's Chewbacca

> Drax is a one dimensional character
I disagree, we got a glimpse of the great sadness he still carries form the death of his family and with Mantis he has a character he gets to make fun of instead of being the butt of everyone's jokes.

> Gamora has no character.
...yeah. She had the weakest plot of the movie with the sister drama. The only thing going for Gamora is the build up to the romance. It'll probably feel like something when she and Peter do get together unlike every other MCU romance except Tony and Pepper

>>92590866

They're called b-plots. Because Star-Lord is the main character.

Rocket and Yondu's plots got elevated in importance because of their parallel to Star-Lord. Because he's the main character.

>>92590988
I like that every character got something, it's more than the Avengers movies try to do.

>>92590079

Every Marvel movie made after Sam Raimi's Spiderman has been "a bit shit" but they get a pass anyway because their competition is even worse.

Vol 2 tried a little too hard with its comedy. Don't get me wrong, it was funny, but the last two MCU films (Strange and Civil War) were funnier without half the quips. It's to the point that Vol 2 was funny simply because it took so many shots that some of them just had to go in. The action was also pretty lacking, cutting from most of it to again, cater to humor. Baby Groot was annoying and took up far too much screen time. The sci-fi elements felt mediocre in comparison to the most recent Star Trek or Star Wars films, spreading the conflict in a way that made the movie more of a space adventure was something the first film did much much better.

On the flip, the characterization for this film was much better even if it feels like Rocket took two steps back from where he left off in the first film. Gammora is still feeling a little weak, which is insane seeing as though a great deal of the movie was about her. It was still a good movie, with a strong ending.

>>92590117
>not a hivemind
>/co/

Choose one.

>>92590079

They've been recreating the same movie since 2012. Why fix what isn't broken?

>>92591037
>didn't read
This should be the the motto of /co/

>>92591024
People like you are why MCU movies will forever be medicore. You've given up on wanting good superhero movies because the DCEU is shit and now we're stuck with this cancerous Disney formula.

>>92591037

>>92591037

if 4chan allows me to format my replies this way

then it's 4chan spacing

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>92591037
Oh wow anon, you're so cool, you sure showed me that you're not from /v/, you autistic piece of shit.

>>92591069
Some people don't like watching the same movie over and over. Strange concept, I know.

>>92590079

>Nothing new added to the MCU
>Predictable generic plot
>"Oh look 80's reference"

Still I enjoyed it

>>92591145
There's watchers and shit. Dunno that they'll be a big point going forward but it could point to them going extra nutty after Infinity War, if GotG and Ragnarok aren't already nutty enough.

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>>92590079
>Now that the honeymoon period is over, can we all agree GOTG2 was a bit shit?

No?

Admittedly the first half hour was sorta whatever, but It was actually one of Marvels best MCU films to date. It didn't have to rely on using a McGuffin Infinity Stone to be the crux of the movie, and for the most part got to tell it's own story with it's characters. The message of the film was great, and the second half is easily better than the first half. Not to mention this is a rare sequel that is better than the original.

Most of it's strengths I will say come from being written and directed by a single person mostly. No Hollywood board room of 16 motherfuckers all trying to push the film in just as many directions as their are executives. People with actual talent being allowed to craft a film from start to finish with less meddling.

>>92590079

I wouldn't call them plotholes but a couple flaws for me:

Nebula suddenly being "unable" to kill her sister even though in the first movie she blew up that space pod Gamora was in which, for all she knew, killed her

Yondu suddenly "hahaha telling you my men wanted to eat you was a joke" and caring about Peter and shit even though he would have killed him in the first movie if he didn't hand over the Infinity stone in the end. I have to headcanon it that he knew Peter was tricking him with the fake orb and went along with it to look tough in front of his guys

The realization that Ego was evil seemed way too forced, like he goes straight from being super cool and fun to "btw I killed ur mum". Also if he's immortal why would he tell Peter about his whole plan and that he killed his mom on the second day? He could have waited a thousand years for the rest of the Guardians to die and had Peter warm up to the idea gradually. I think it would have made more sense if that was his plan but he gets forced to come clean when Gamora confronts him.

Some of the jokes were terrible

>>92590842
Gamora was mostly just told that Nebula suffered cause of what she did.

Nebula is much more interesting than Gamora, who just stands around 90% of the time, has no drive other than "I guess I'll do super hero things and do will they won't they stuff with starlord."

>>92591305
>I have to headcanon it that he knew Peter was tricking him with the fake orb and went along with it to look tough in front of his guys

It's James Gunn's canon. He told Rooker to act like he knew he was getting swindled by Pratt.

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>>92590079
DC fans are so salty it's kind of sad.

>>92591299
How much did you get paid to type all this?

>>92591305
>He could have waited a thousand years for the rest of the Guardians to die and had Peter warm up to the idea gradually.

I guess he had a big....ego.

>>92591365

ah well that's good then. I guess Yondu's whole thing makes sense then

>>92591305
The answer to the Ego thing is obvious: Ego was lying about his true motive, even to himself. We KNOW that other celestials exist but Ego acts like he has this entire universe to himself. He's a damaged shard of something bigger.

>>92591379
About as much as the bunny pays you

>>92591305
The only problem I had with the film was definitely Ego going "Oh lol yeah, I gave your mom the brain cancer for the lulz" out of fucking nowhere.

He already seems like he's clever and cunning enough to know NOT to spill the beans on something that critical until like 1000 years later when all Peter's friends are gone already outside of Groot.

It was sorta bullshit.

>>92591305
For the Gamora and Nebula thing, they had their brief fight on ROnan's ship where they yelled at each other briefly. Nebula is a bit nuts but I guess you could use that fight as an excuse for her thinking Gamora wasn't as much of an asshole as she used to think or some shit. Not the strongest way to show it perhaps but it's there sort of.

>>92591379
I get paid in chicken tendies.

No really, I just braved eating those taco bell chicken chips and I am already dying.

>>92591397
>We KNOW that other celestials exist

but does Ego know this?

Even if he did I don't see how it follows that he'd be too stupid to realize telling Quill he killed his mom that soon wouldn't end well.

>>92591374
You know what's even more sad? Being a company warrior.

>>92591404

It was unnecessary too. Gamora already found the pile of skulls, they could have had her confront him and the plot would be nearly the same from there.

>>92591404
>out of fucking nowhere.

I guess he had a large....ego.

>>92591404
He's a god, I think the idea is as an immortal he doesn't quite understand the bond of family and such. The closest he had was the Peter's mom but rather than embrace the sensation he decided to kill her. With Peter I guess he only sees him as an extension of himself, and that the immortal part of him would overrule the emotions of the mortal part.

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It won't hit a billion

>>92591498
True enough. Now if only DC would make even a half good movie to compete with Marvel's okay-to-great winning streak, maybe I'll compliment them.

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>>92590109
>>92590168
>tfw it's another "faggot doesn't know what a plot hole is" episode.

>>92591541

Peter already asked him why he left and questioned him about whether he really loved his mom before that though, it should have been obvious as fuck

What if we get a moment like that part from The Dark Knight Rises where Bruce is talking to a hallucination of Ra's Al Ghul? Except with Peter and Ego.
>You're dead
>You can't kill what's immortal, son.

>>92591442
Hes not stupid, he's literally Ego incarnate. And if he couldn't understand what it means to love a mate or a son how could he possibly understand what it means to love a mother? It wasn't calculated at all, he just made the fatal mistake of getting too comfortable around Peter and assuming his godlike son would agree with him because of his genes. As so many deadbeat fathers do.

>>92590168
That doesn't make it a plot hole. Did you respond to the wrong person?

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So with this movie, Ashton Kutcher having an anti-human trafficking agency, Elijah Wood speaking up against PedoWood amongothers, there seems to be some growing themes in Hollywood about bringing punishment to those who deal illegal activities involving kids/children.

Could the salt this movie is generating be from asspained pedophiles in Hollywood getting nervous that their activities are under attack in films at the moment?

Pic only semi related.

>>92591565

rip

needed, what, 1.5 billion to break even?

>>92590079
Actually, it was pretty good, and you're shit.

>>92591498
I agree, we need to start banning these company wars faggots, or at least put their shitty threads on /trash/

>>92591603
Yes, you're very clever, 15th person to point it out.

>>92591601

see >>92591575

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>>92591523
>I guess he had a large....ego.

I hate you

>>92590272
Yeah, that was pretty cool, that and the "team splits up for different stories before the third act". People pointed out that that's a bit like Empire Strikes Back, but it's different from how most MCU movies operate.

>>92591305
As a godlike entity, it made sense that Ego would nonchalantly reveal he killed Peter's mother. When it comes down to it, she was really just a means to an end.

As for Yondu, even when he discovered Peter swapped out the Gem for a Troll doll, he seemed more amused than angry. I don't think he ever had intended to kill Peter.

>>92591567
It's just capeshit, who cares? DC crushes them in comics which is all that matters

>>92590168
It wasn't but it revealed just what was wrong with the way Ego was thinking. He saw it as necessary because if she lived he'd keep going back and it would ruin his goal, and he figured that since she would die soon anyway, relative to him, what's the difference between 10 years and 70. Better to remove the temptation and pick up Peter and get on with his master plan.

So it was necessary in the mind of the villain and it was necessary in illustrating the madness of the villain.

You fucking idiot.

>>92590327
>doesn't know what a plot hole is
>doesn't know what a meme is
I hope you're being retarded on purpose.

>>92590272
>wasn't just about chasing the main bad guy who has stolen the infinity gem, the main bad guy isn't even revealed until the third act

I mean you could say the same about, say, Civil War. Or in Dr. Strange, the good guy has the infinity gem the whole time and the bad guy never even tries to grab it

>>92590607
>What he says flat out in the movie is "head canon"
You're not just stupid, you're aggressively, offensively stupid.

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>>92591731
>comics
>mattering

>>92591731
I really wish DC would start producing that Shazam ongoing we were promised back in New 52, then maybe I'll have more than just 3 titles from them on my pull list.

>>92590684
No. no you're not. There's no meme. That's not what it means in the slightest. What the fuck is wrong with your head.

Jesus christ.

>>92591637
What's your point?

>>92591731
What >>92591777 said. Also witnessed.

>>92591706

look man, I am incapable of understanding how people can love cats, but if someone near me won't stop gushing about how great their cat is, I will at least know that they fucking love cats even if I'm incapable o understanding the feeling. That's what I'm talking about with Ego. It's not that he lacked empathy, it's that he was apparently too stupid to even notice that Quill really cared about his mom despite the fact that he kept bringing it up.

>>92591031
Strange was pretty good, but it absolutely was not funnier. One of the most widely voiced criticisms, which I share, has been that the humor was weak and mostly out of place in that movie.

>>92591777
Dem trips don't lie!

>>92591777
>>92591818
Kill yourselves capeshitniggers

Hey /v/, can you go fuck off? This movie was actually good for once and this isn't really the time or place for your contrarian bullshit "I hate everything" rants.

>>92591813
>>92591819

>>92591010
Me too. I wish they went with more of Drax's family stuff than just the one scene with Mantis, but the shit Rocket, Peter, Nebula, and Yondu got was great.

>>92591031
I do agree that it could have used more action and less humor, but I'm torn on Baby Groot. He was funny in the opening scene for a bit (then I got tired of it), but that scene where he tried to get Yondu's fin was fucking gold. Besides that though, half of that other screentime should have gone to Drax's character development.

>>92591145
>Added Mantis to the GotG
>Gave a fuckton of development for Peter, Nebula, and Rocket
>Confirmed presence of Watchers and more Celestials
>Set up Adam Warlock
>Added original guardians and a qt golden waifu
I don't think that counts as "nothing new." It -may- not directly tie into whatever Avengers movie is coming out next like how some other MCU movies are mandated, but it definitely contributed a fair amount.

Also, did anyone else catch Jeff Goldblum dancing in the credits?

>>92591866
You have shit taste and the world would be better if you were dead.

>>92590079
I liked how they gave Farscape such a big budget.

>>92591862
>capeshit
>+ niggers
I applaud your shitposting. It is obviously a honed skill. Now back to /v/ with you.

In Ego's mind, he was killing Peter's mother to protect Peter, because more time spent away from Ego's planet means more time for something to happen to Peter while he's completely vulnerable.

Also, things would have turned out EVEN WORSE if Ego let himself become more human-like. You can even argue that the problem with him is that he was already too human; too impatient and short-sighted. If he became any worse and started feeling empathy for the "lower" lifeforms of the galaxy, he'd end up like the guys from Dr. Strange.

>>92591899
t. WB shill

>>92591374
Is dat sum calvin and hobbes dancin?

>>92591819
But you're a human empathizing with other humans. Ego is a god. Do you have the same complaints about the Illiad? Not that they're comparable in quality, but the manner in which they compare and contrast gods and mortals is similar.

>>92591929
Slit your throat, Disney shill.

>>92591899
Pathetic. That really is all you have.

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>>92591932
There's some good shit out there.

>>92591575
Thing is, he had literally just shown Peter Eternity and all the wonders it held, he probably figured that after seeing it all Peter would understand that while Meredith was the love of his life, the universe and his purpose were just so much grander that he had to cut ties. His ego also plays into it, if he saw eternity and its wonders and understood that they were so much greater than Meredith, how could someone else not realize that and agree?

>>92590079
it was better than the first

>>92591946
There is no need to be upset Warner Baby

>>92591777
It's all about merchandise as I recall.
I'm curious which medium gets them the most interest in merchandise sales, there's the comics of course, then cartoons maybe tv shows, and movies have finally become ridiculously popular rather than the campy stuff in the past Not sure if video games fit in there somewhere.

>>92590701
I'm sorry the movie didn't spell out everything and considered its audience intelligent enough to assume a very minor and suggested idea, maybe the whole movie should have just been a text crawl explaining the entirety of the story

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>>92591938

Ego is a god empathizing with another god

>>92591946
There's no shills here /v/. People just like things sometimes and don't go out of their way to pick apart everything.

How about you fuck off and bitch about the latest zelda like a good little bitch.

>92591899
>The point was proven once and for all.

Now that we know Snyderfags are /v/ermin scum, can we purge their threads quickly, please?

This is so hilarious it's making me want to screencap it all for the future.

>>92592014
>Now, see, that's the mortal in you talking, Peter.

>>92592014
Oh shit it just hit me that when they inevitable crossover GoG with Thor Quill will have some snarky line like "A god huh? I was a god once."

>>92592061
Does being alone piss you off? I'd think you'd be used to it by now.

>>92592061
Better go call for backup warner baby, isn't there a 'please support the directors cut extended universe' thread up? I'm sure the two anon posting in there will be glad to help you not feel so alone.

>>92591964
In some ways, I agree with this. Most of the characters got arcs in this movie that fleshed them out when the first movie had to do double duty introducing them all and and telling a McGuffin hot-potato plot. Not only that, this one had a much much stronger villain presence. In comparison.

>>92592127
>>92592138
Kys company warriors

>>92591305
Your first two gripes are absolutely my biggest problems with the movie.

I liked it, anyway, but they're still both eating at me.

>>92591765
Well Feige said that phase 3 movies would try to change its story structure
>Civil War doesnt end with the heroes fighting the villain but them fighting against each other
>Doctor Strange makes a pact with Dormammu rather than fighting him.and his followers
>GotG Vol 2 having a totally different structure than past Marvel movies

>>92590079
How are they the same movie? They don't even have the same format of story. A different theme, different kind of villain altogether, different moral.

The other avengers stuff was looking so samey that this one was a breath of fresh air. Comparatively.

>>92591305
>I have to headcanon it that he knew Peter was tricking him with the fake orb and went along with it to look tough in front of his guys
Pretty easy to headcanon that, given the fact that his reaction to seeing he was fooled was a "THAT'S MY BOY" grin and not murderous rage.

>>92591305
>Nebula being unable to kill Gamora
I'll give you that. It led to actually having a conversation establishing motives and development, but it did feel forced
>Yondu caring about Peter
I thought that was always a given, but I'll give it to you anyway.
>Forced realization
The thing is, Ego fucked up and let it slip, but he also thought he did nothing wrong. He was going on and on about what he did and what needed to be done, he just got carried away. I can imagine Ego deluding himself into thinking that Peter would understand and be fine with it all. Plus after all those failed trials, he was probably tired of waiting and wanted to get straight to the point once he found a match. And also having Gamora confront him would add unnecessary "You just don't want me to be happy" bullshit that we got in the first place.

>>92592172
After you warner baby, Marvel has to copy everything DC does anyway so you better show us how it's done first.

I actually really enjoyed GOTG2 and I think that it's kind of amazing how across the board people respond to this film. I seen one reviewer HATE the Sovereign, I seen another hate the Ravangers. Personally? I thought it was a great follow up with some really powerful, emotional scenes. They paired off the characters and they worked well off each other, and they turned a ridiculous concept like Ego the Living Planet and made him intimidating.

I really enjoyed the film and I can't decide if I like it more or less than the first. And I don't get the people who say it's the first movie again when all I can think off is the opening dance number and flashback. Like, franchises repeat elements from film to film, that's how they commit to tone.

>>92591305
The Nebula one was easy. She could kill her sister from a distance. She had not problem trying to gun her down in this movie. It was up close, personal, face to face, and she couldn't do it.

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>>92592239
>marvel copies DC
>in movies
Nigga, the fuck are you smoking?

>>92592215
>And also having Gamora confront him would add unnecessary "You just don't want me to be happy" bullshit that we got in the first place.

she could have just brought one of the skulls back. Where else would she get a skull when there was supposed to be no one else on the planet? It honestly would have been a nice touch if she brought a skull back and then with real evidence, Peter did the sensible thing and trusted her.

>>92591604
I think you're getting carried away, anon. But it's good that they're speaking up. That shit is beyond fucked up. Bryan Singer is going to get what's coming to him

>>92592297
Civil War was announced after BvS, Captain Marvel was anniunced after Wonder Woman.

>>92592190
They were steps in the right direction. I'm still worried about Carol's movie, though. Not so much Panther's movie, but Carol could potentially be fucked if she's not treated right.

>>92590168
>plot hole
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define+plothole

>>92592333
No it wouldn't have. Did you miss the part where Ego told Quill about the other kids and Quill didn't give a shit? The final confrontation was spurred solely by a boy's love for his mother vs his father's callous ego. I fucking loved that the climax was so personal, trying to bring logic into it would ruin that.

>>92592374
But the movies were nothing alike. And both Civil War and Batman V Superman are based loosely on similar events happening in the comics. Superheroes fighting each other is an old ass fucking trope and always inevitable.

And for fucks sake, marvel abuses that trope more by far.

What is what with your head, kid?

>>92592374
Civil War is a given, since the Russos said they were only allowed to do it after BvS was announced. Captain Marvel is bullshit, though. There's no way Marvel didn't have plans to introduce Carol sooner or later, given their need for a female superhero that wasn't Widow. Especially since Carol was initially supposed to show up in Age of Ultron

>>92592493
>Did you miss the part where Ego told Quill about the other kids and Quill didn't give a shit?

I really must have, I don't remember him telling Quill that he killed a bunch of people

>I fucking loved that the climax was so personal, trying to bring logic into it would ruin that.

I like it better when characters don't fall over themselves and make obvious mistakes just to force the plot to go where the writers want it to

>>92592544
As I recall they had to be independent from Perlmutter first, dude didn't think people wanted a female lead or something. And he didn't want RDJ in Civil War.

>>92592519
>>92592544
Nice get

Guy, don't think too hard on this, it's company wars shitposting, trace the posts back you'll see.

>>92592493
By my memory he showed Peter him making love to the other aliens after he told him about his mom, I think.

Did Ego really do anything wrong?

>>92592603
I don't think there's much company wars besides the DC faggot there. He's actually defending the DC movies, as I live and breath, what a time to be alive.

>>92592603
Just trying to clean up my home board

>>92590168
>anon doesn't get plotholes

>>92592632

he didn't just wait for the other Guardians to die and then reveal his plan to Peter

>>92592632
Not from his point of view. It depends on which is more important, his life or the trillions upon trillions of others alive in the galaxy.

And I guess you could say both sides would be biased.

>>92592590
God fucking dammit Perlmutter needs to leave Marvel already. He tried to fuck up the movies, he ended up fucking the Inhumans, and he fucked the comics.

>>92592632
Not really, beyond killing one Earth woman so she wouldn't distract him from galactic domination with her tits.

But he was going to eradicate the pre-existing life on thousands of planets so he could assimilate them into his own being. That's kinda shitty.

>>92592687

not really since if he didn't spread everywhere he'd still be alive. It's not one life vs trillions really, it's one life vs that same life + trillions

>>92592645
I think the 'Marvel copies DC' comment was against the WB shill, after all that is kind of true with comics, and the shill replied with asking about movies.
>>92592648
I know that feel anon, I don't think we'll ever get /co/ as clean and shit free as it was some years ago. We can do all that we can and hope though, right?

>>92590135
Starlord grew up with a single mom until he leave the earth

>>92592663

Once he saw that Peter could use the Light he went to mind control his son pretty quickly.

>>92592775

yeah and that caused him to lose

He had infinite time to take over the universe, and he couldn't wait a few decades. He deserved what he got

Seemed obvious to me that Ego's nice guy routine was an act to get Peter on the planet and in reality he was always a douche. So much that Mantis' body language around him when they got out of the ship was of hesitation and even fear.

I also enjoy the interpretation that what compelled Mantis to alert the Guardians to Ego's plan was touching Drax and sensing what genuine love of a father for his children feels like. It was also pretty clear Ego used her to soothe his disappointments as they agonized to death.

>>92592737
True, so the only real problem was his ego. Who would have thought.

>>92592741
I don't even know, man. There are some periods where I have hope, but it degrades to a bunch of shitflinging based on company wars, tastes, or politics. Six years ago people would have been glad to say that we had such an expansive MCU or DCEU alone, rather than bashing them. Fuck, I still remember when the /co/ is love meme was going around

>>92592895
I 'member when /co/ is love wasn't just a meme, we were actually one of the better boards

problems with vol 2

>way too long
>character motivations all over the place
>clown vomit color palette
>terribly forced soundtrack in contrast to the first movie
>never commit to the action sequences
>one character is literally a laugh track
>god has enough room in his ship for everyone but the 3 foot raccoon and baby vin diesel tree
>vin diesel is credited
>it wouldn't be a vin diesel movie without FAMILY. WE'RE NOT JUST A TEAM WE'RE FAMILY. *didn't use the song "we are a family" here.
>boring ass pg-13 violence.
>"check out my plot exposition dioramas"
>"I'm trying to persuade you to destroy the universe, also I gave your mom cancer, is this the best time to tell you this?"
>dairy queen
>we gotta stop the cgi blobs on some planets we've never been to, that we don't actually know about...

>>92592567
>I like it better when characters don't fall over themselves and make obvious mistakes just to force the plot to go where the writers want it to
>I like when characters act how I think they should act and not how their established character dictates they should

Also you're assuming that Gunn wrote the characters to fit the plot when it's clearly the other way around.

>>92592938
>>god has enough room in his ship for everyone but the 3 foot raccoon and baby vin diesel tree
I know its a minor point, but they stayed behind to fix the ship

>>92592943
He may have gone a bit too far in the character driven part of storytelling. But it's generally still better than plot driven where the characters are either meaningless or doing retarded shit in order to advance the plot.
Just feels like the plot is lacking, rather than say grinding the movie to a halt for a character to open email attachments about new characters.

>>92592812
>Drax and sensing what genuine love of a father for his children feels like
Man, Infinity War is going to be fucking nuts. Drax and Nebula are both going to be gunning for Thanos meaning we'll hopefully see a serious Drax from the Guardians. Thor is probably going to be gunning for Thanos/Loki if Ragnarok goes as expected. Wanda is probably going to go apeshit after her android husbando is killed. I imagine Cap will pull a Cap and give us that moment we've all been waiting for.

>>92593001
they didn't fix it
they stayed behind to wait for the plot to move forward

>>92592943
>and not how their established character dictates they should

If he was dumb enough to think Quill wouldn't care about his mom being killed why didn't he say so the first time she was brought up? Why did he spend all that time avoiding the topic then?

Why was Ego nice to the other Guardians? Why didn't he tell them only Peter can come? After all they were worthless fleas, and from his perspective Peter should understand why they aren't cool enough to come to his planet, right?

>>92592741
I never could make the idea that the comics and the movies are related actually stick in my mind. They're both such different animals with their own sets of corporate overlords and industries keeping them from really being comparable in that way.

I usually sway towards DC with comics, but their movies are just so godawful, and a lot of the things I don't like about marvel aren't there in their movies. They make me like the x-men movies now and then, and I fucking hate everyone in x-men comics. Fuck, I hate deadpool and all the people he's most popular with drive me up the wall but that movie was my favorite of the year. DC almost got its act together with the tv shows, but the flash kind of lost me and then the Netflix Marvel shows blew my mind, or DD did at least.

It makes no sense to me to compare the rivalries of the movies with those of the comics. For one the movie rivalry is all but nonexistent because DC movies suck ass.

>>92593031
And Thanos will shove his armored fist right up their collective asses.

>>92592937
oh /co/ is still one of the better boards, but everything else has just gotten shittier on this site so it's relative.

>>92592938
>>way too long
Felt like it went by fast for me.
>>character motivations all over the place
Could you be more specific?
>>clown vomit color palette
I fucking love the color palette! It's one of my favorite things about the GOTG films!
>>terribly forced soundtrack in contrast to the first movie
I actually thought it work. Especially the Chain.
>>never commit to the action sequences
I guess?
>>one character is literally a laugh track
And he was still hilarious.
>>god has enough room in his ship for everyone but the 3 foot raccoon and baby vin diesel tree
They stood behind to watch over and fix the ship. How did you not get that?
>>vin diesel is credited
>>it wouldn't be a vin diesel movie without FAMILY. WE'RE NOT JUST A TEAM WE'RE FAMILY. *didn't use the song "we are a family" here.
Now you're just being memey
>>boring ass pg-13 violence.
Yondu killing all those guys was boring?
>>"check out my plot exposition dioramas"
They did help.
>>"I'm trying to persuade you to destroy the universe, also I gave your mom cancer, is this the best time to tell you this?"
I blame it on omnipotence incompetents. His dad was pretty much Zeus.
>>dairy queen
>>we gotta stop the cgi blobs on some planets we've never been to, that we don't actually know about...
But....Ego just told him about that.

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>>92592938
>>clown vomit color palette

fuck your bad taste

>>boring ass pg-13 violence.
>>"check out my plot exposition dioramas"

It seems like you just didn't want to like the movie. You know what a movie with a talking raccoon needs? HARD R SEX AND VIOLENCE.

>>"I'm trying to persuade you to destroy the universe, also I gave your mom cancer, is this the best time to tell you this?"

He was hypnotizing his son. Hence the weird star eyes.

>>92592938
These are all such non-problems to me that it makes me feel better about the movie.

I'm also a sucker for movies that are colorful in this way. I'm so fucking tired of movies keeping some filter on all the time that washes everything down. Give me rainbow effects and neon lights on everything. When someone is wearing blue, make it pop. This movie made me realize the reason I don't like cyberpunk is because what I really want in life is cyberfunk!

>>92593031
They said the GOTG will be supporting cast for Infinity Wars, so we'll get another shitty RDJ "There's no way you can possibly win" shit that he did with Loki.

>>92593086
>Fuck, I hate deadpool and all the people he's most popular with drive me up the wall but that movie was my favorite of the year.
I'm curious. Do you hate Waypool or do you just hate Deadpool in general? If it's the former, Deadpool's comics have been pretty good for a while now.

>>92593125
The 2016 US election did irreversible damage to this place.

>>92593110
I wonder how that'll turn out. If there are movies that are actually taking place in between the two movies, we probably aren't getting the snap. We'll see something at SDCC, hopefully.

>>92593059
I don't think he was clueless, being able to seduce that many species means he probably understands their behavior pretty well. He probably figured that Peter wouldn't understand until he had gotten around to showing him eternity with the headtap. He was right, Peter instantly agreed to his plan of consuming the rest of reality after the tap, so from there revealing that he killed Meredith to continue the mission didn't seem like a big deal. As for the other Guardians, they're about at Mantis' level for him, a useful pet, and he wanted to win Quill over to his side so why not indulge him a little.

>>92593056
>they didn't fix it
>they stayed behind to wait for the plot to move forward

fuck you. the characters aren't aware they're in a movie.

within the narrative, the characters made a reasonable choice

>>92593230
I love RDJ in the role, but we need Cap as a fucking leader, dammit. What we got in the first part of CW was great. We need more of that

>>92590079
I didn't even like the first one

>>92593262

that's my point though, everything before that scene shows that even if he can't empathize with humans and lesser beings, at the very least he's capable of faking it. Then when he says "lol i killed ur mum" its like he suddenly forgot how.

>>92593059
>If he was dumb enough to think Quill wouldn't care about his mom being killed why didn't he say so the first time she was brought up? Why did he spend all that time avoiding the topic then?

He had to make sure Peter had the light, and then draw him into his plan. Once he had him hooked he opened up to him.

>Why was Ego nice to the other Guardians? Why didn't he tell them only Peter can come? After all they were worthless fleas, and from his perspective Peter should understand why they aren't cool enough to come to his planet, right?

He wasn't actively trying to trick Peter, he was trying to reach out to him. "Hey stranger come hang with me oh but leave your friends kthx" isn't gonna get him to trust you. And they were already skeptical of him.

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>>92593086
I feel ya with Deadpool my mugga, dude is crazy over exposed and has drawn in the worst possible fan base, however, there is a comic right now being written by Joe Kelly called Spider-Man and Deadpool that actually does both characters justice. If you haven't yet, you might like to check it oit, but be advised, it suffers from having a number of guest writers who, oddly enough, are television writers.

Personally, I try and keep an open mind towards both companies, there is stuff that I like in both of their films and stuff that I don't really care for, but I could never swear off one because of something stupid that they did, sadly the mentality of company warriors is that you HAVE to pick a side or you're a shill for either company. I hope one day the majority of the regular posters on /co/ are able to grow beyond this.

>>92593236
I haven't given deadpool comics an honest chance in ages since he got popular. Usually when I know better than to fall for the trap of "fans of a super popular thing are so annoying you stop liking it even if you liked it before it was popular, just because of them." But maybe I've just been too hard on deadpool since he more recently blew up.

It was just "ugh, there's that character was made as a joke and parody to begin with ruining everything with dumb middle school humor and gags".

What would you recommend to get over that?

>>92593389
Spiderpool is a teamup I've always liked and wanted to see done right. Thanks.

>>92593386
>*He wasn't actively trying to trick Peter into joining him

>>92592242
I agree. The only thing that ruined the film for me was the humor. Volume 1 had relatively sparse but better humor and it was a bit more natural for the flow of the film. Volume 2 had waaaaaay too many jokes that just fell flat and scenes that were meant to be funny but just gave the film whiplash between the deeply emotional scenes and fucking turd jokes. That entire 5 minutes of rocket poking fun at tazerface was tedium incarnate. I liked the film a whole lot for the emotional punches and overall plot. But the humor just made it seem like every other marvel film and dropped the quality a lot.
Honestly the only character arc that i think was mishandled was Drax and Mantis but that's probably just because Drax seemed more straight up mentally deficient vs. just some socially retarded errant knight.
Plus the ravager funeral dragged on way too long since the ravagers themselves had zero buildup.

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>>92593431
Also you may want to check out Duggan's run, that bit up above with the little girl, she's introduced in that run, guy did some great work on a character I figured Way forever destroyed.

>>92593223

>Drax reminisces about his wife and daughter
>Mantis touches Drax and -immediately- begins crying
>not just shedding a few tears, but ugly, choking sobs that wrack her entire body
>Drax just sits there with a distant, blank expression

I actually really liked this scene. It gave Drax a bit of depth.

>>92591896
I noticed that. But who was the older, bigger gentleman? Was he the dude in the sedan with the black chick?

>>92593552
They pull off the character they made for him well.

>>92593386
>"Hey stranger come hang with me oh but leave your friends kthx" isn't gonna get him to trust you

How does he know this much about human interaction but not enough to realize that telling him "hey I killed your mommy" is a bad idea?

And, why even take the risk? He's immortal, he has more than enough time to get his plan going, he could wait a few years to drop a bomb like that.

it seemed to be a typical sufferer of middle trilogy syndrome. the second act climax is always a bit ho-hum because you dont want it to overshadow the third act climax, and the priority always ends up coming out with getting the characters to where they need to be in their character arc at the start of the third movie is more important than doing a good gob of showing them get there

a growing problem in the MCU is that this is effecting nearly all of the movies in this phase, because Infinity War is acting as the 'grand finale' to all their movies so far. so everything this phase is just putting the pieces in place in a very low effort way.
The worst part is this might kill the MCU Spider-Man before its properly out the door, because Homecoming can't take Spider-Man anywhere but where Infinity War needs him to be, which is basically where Civil War left him. Which is why Homecoming is largely outside New York and missing most of Spidey's supporting cast; because evidently they don't want him doing any major character growth on his own until after Infinity War, though I can only speculate on what they actually intend. It won't happen if they fuck up though because if Homecoming underperform then Sony will just stop playing ball once Infinity War is over

>>92593389
>SM&DP
That book is probably one of my favorites from Marvel right now. I'm fine with Duggan staying on Deadpool, but holy fuck Kelly severely needs to replace Slott on mainline ASM. He does a fantastic job.

>>92593395
You could start with Cable & Deadpool, then move onto the Kelly & McGuinness run, then go straight to the Duggan & Posehn run. Be warned, as the first arc or so of Duggan's run is weaning readers off of Waypool while creating the character that people know today.

>>92593634
Because he's already been waiting millennia and has a big ego.

>>92593567
I'm not sure, I'd have to watch it again. But it may have been.

>>92593552
I liked it a lot, too. There should have been more like it.

>>92593686
>Which is why Homecoming is largely outside New York and missing most of Spidey's supporting cast

wat

also the only Infinity War related thing in the movie was Nebula talking about how she's going to kill Thanos. Well, and Adam Warlock

>>92593686
>Which is why Homecoming is largely outside New York and missing most of Spidey's supporting cast

Are we just pulling things out of our asses now?

>>92593634
They stayed behind to fix the ship, and because rocket and peter were in the middle of being pissed at each other and needed to not be around each other.

It's not fucking rocket science.

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>>92593350
>I want to take over the universe, but you're a god so I know you understand
>I slept my way around the universe fathering thousands of children, but you're a god so I know you understand
>I killed all of your mortal half-siblings, but you're a god so I know you understand
>I'm going to kill your mortal friends too, but you're a god so I know you understand
>Just like I killed your mortal mother. But you're a god, surely you must understand?

Ego couldn't fathom the love between a mother and son. What was a logical extension for him was a bridge too far for Peter.

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>>92593690
If the world was perfect we'd have a rotating team of Conway, Kelly and Thompson all writing Amazing Spider-Man

>>92593752
>>92593766
I think he's referring to the DC field trip, but I'm still lost as to what he's trying to convey.

>>92590079

Go back to bed Zack

>>92593350
It's not that he forgot how, its just at that point he thought the revelation of eternity would overcome the emotional bonds Quill had and therefore he didn't have to care if it got out. If you want a more meta explanation, it served to highlight how fanatical/alien Ego was that he would value the mission enough to kill the love of his life and that he was so detached from mortal beings that he would mention it so casually.

>>92593634
Early on he's holding back because he's not sure about Peter, later when he tells him about his mom he's sure that he's got him and that Peter will understand because he is in fact a god like him. He's Ego dude, it's in the name.

>>92593182
>Felt like it went by fast for me.
yeah I guess a shit load of filler goes by real fast

>could you be more specific
there is literally a character in this movie designed to explain character motivations, that's how all over the place this movie is

>I fucking love the color palette! It's one of my favorite things about the GOTG films!
yeah they did a good job with it in the first movie, here the color palette is instead a good representation of how scatterbrained this movie is.

>I actually thought it work a couple times too. Especially the Chain.
I "thought it work" twice, specifically. that and the cat stevens song, everything else was forced, and just bad music in-general.

>i guess?
cool, leave the thinking to me.

>and he was still hilarious
the big bang theory is hilarious to some people, fucking retards.

>they ((stood)) behind to watch over and fix the ship how did you not get that?
they made a point to show he WASN'T fixing the ship and actually waiting for some bad pg-13 bombs to go off until the audience lost interest

>now you're just being memey
vin diesel doesn't deserve credit for saying I am groot over and over, especially if they're just gonna pitch it

>younda killing all those guys was boring?
yes. guys falling over while some cgi whizzes past them is boring.

>they did help.
no.

>I blame it on omnipotence ((incompetents)). His dad was pretty much Zeus.
you're doing some mental gymnastics basically.

>>>dairy queen

>but... Ego just told him about that.
it was an excuse for some cgi to destroy a city, completely unnecessary just like most of this shitty movie.

>>92593832
If we lived in a perfect world, Slott would have left after Spider-Island and Bendis would never have touched the X-Men, Iron Man, or made AoU/CWII. Ewing would have been put on the Inhumans much earlier than he was, and Carol would have found a competent writer since dating all the way back to KSD or Reed.

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>>92593961
I actually liked Reed's Ms Marvel, he wrote Carol as an actual character opposed to the Carol we have now. And agreed, Slott should have left ASM a long time ago and Bendis should be quarantined to his own street level OCs, and only 1 at a time, who knows, maybe if another writer actually got to do anything with Miles he'd be an actual character.

>>92593748
Left side of the screen. I feel like he's an industry cameo, because a random dude in a sedan that's about to die is really weird to put in a credits scene.

>>92593811
would you believe me if I said that pun was completely on accident?

>>92593752
>the only Infinity War related thing
its the other things that Infinity War require to have happened
like Peter knowing he's a demigod, having a little bit of experience with using that power, and knowing there's things he can do but others can't like endure using a volatile infinity gem.
Ego, Yondu, and most of the Ravagers wiped out so Peter doesn't have any attachments left except for the Guardians
Rocket getting over himself and starting to open up
Mantis joining the crew and Drax taking her under his wing

these are all things that will be relevant to the Guardian's role in Infinity War, and the whole thing feels rather loose and sloppy because Gunn had to work around these necessary developments whether he thought that was a good time in the characters' lives for all of those things to happen at once or not. no room for debate means less thought put into it in general

>>92593223
fuck my bad taste? god help me for thinking that color use should have more thought put into it then just filling the screen with unicorn explosions that chris pratt is crying at

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>>92590607
anon...

I am not a comic book reader so my opinion is worthless, but I watched this movie with my Dad and I fought bitch tears at the ending.

I liked it more than the first one.

>>92594093
>who knows, maybe if another writer actually got to do anything with Miles he'd be an actual character.
When Miles showed up in TAH he was pretty decent.

>>92593350
It's not that he suddenly forgot how to, its that he thought eternity would get Peter "caught up to speed" and that Quill's value of other life would change to be more like Ego's.

And maybe it would have been okay to talk to him about his mother that way, but what Ego failed to understand for was that the subjective aspect of their experiences would be enough to keep Peter "broken" and different than Ego; specifically, watching Meredith die slowly left a deep psychological wound on Peter. Talk of his mother, like it is for many people who had parents die young, is probably a really touchy subject. Let alone telling that person that you're essentially their parent's murderer. The only thing that stirred Peter out of the Celestial mindset was that there was a deep, gut-reaction that came out of psycho-trauma

>>92594240
I'll probably kick myself as soon as I see it, but what's that acronym stand for? I don't recognize it right off hand.

>>92594250
His ego got the better of him.

He believed he was right and it all made sense, and anyone like him would see he was right once he explained it to them. So obviously peter would understand, it made perfect sense.

But then of course he wasn't right, the universe didn't revolve around him, he was flawed and Peter was not like him at all.

>>92594286
My guess is Totally Awesome Hulk.

>>92594134

that reply was because you seemed to have replied to the wrong person, not the pun

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>>92594161
More scifis need to be color explosions. The empty black void of space is just an empty canvas for neon lights.

>>92594325
Ah, of course, no wonder I didn't recognize it, I haven't been flowing that series. Nothing against the creative team or the character, I've just never been a Hulk fan.

>>92594378
sorry, my bad.

>>92590135

I like it, and I had a single mother. It resonates with me because I never got to bond with my dad all that much either. He also died at an early age.

>>92594154
>like Peter knowing he's a demigod, having a little bit of experience with using that power, and knowing there's things he can do but others can't like endure using a volatile infinity gem.

He knew all of that except the demigod thing at the end of the first movie, and I don't see how being a demigod is particularly relevant.

>Ego, Yondu, and most of the Ravagers wiped out so Peter doesn't have any attachments left except for the Guardians


He already seemed like he wasn't very attached to the Ravagers when decided to go off on his own and steal their shit at the beginning of the first movie.

>Rocket getting over himself and starting to open up

Ok, explain how this has any relation to Infinity War at all

>>92590079

It's not going to make anywhere close to that billion dollars so yes.

>>92590079
>when you recreate the same movie as the first
No. The first movie had the most generic possible story, told in the most conventional manner possible. This was something somewhat more creative.

>>92594316
>But then of course he wasn't right, the universe didn't revolve around him, he was flawed and Peter was not like him at all.
Exactly.

Once thing we have to realise, is that Ego actually think he was the VICTIM. He genuinely felt that he was making a great sacrifice to kill the woman he loves for the greater good. He wants Peter to feel sorry for him.

A small part of Ego know he was wrong, the part that had a conscience. That was the part that keeps him up at night. But that small part is nothing compared to him own self-pity.

>>92594525
Isn't it so tragic that he's so superior to all other life in the universe. He is actually doing them a favor and making the universe better by destroying all life except himself and spreading himself throughout the universe.

He's a complete victim in his own head. And he believes he's right and that it's so obvious.

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>>92594161
>god help me for thinking that color use should have more thought put into it then just filling the screen with unicorn explosions that chris pratt is crying at

your taste is indeed bad

It pretty much doubled down on what made the first work, which was both a good and bad thing. Good because the stuff that worked in the first film worked, and so it works here too, for the most part; bad because they didn't really try to do anything new either, and the doubling down of previously successful elements made the whole thing kinda overencumbered, I guess. As an example, setting every sequence to music led to some really fun scenes; at the same time, having Rocket and others go out of the way to basically say "we're setting the next sequence to music" was kinda obnoxious. Overall it felt like they wanted to just hit the sweet spots again, which made some parts just feel like they were pandering.

Overall, I still enjoyed it, but I'm not gonna pretend it doesn't have flaws. I liked the structure with the plots all diverging in late act 1/early act 2 and coming back together for act 3, and I liked how we got more complex characterization from most of the cast (the exceptions being Drax, who I feel got saddled with a lot of the comic relief, which Batista still handled incredibly well but the character didn't feel as well defined as in the first, and Baby Groot who, while cute, felt less like a character as well, though I'll also admit that may have been part of the point).

>>92594250
>>92594316
>>92594525

Still doesn't make sense considering he had infinite time to win Peter over. Like, if we assume he was 90% sure that saying he killed Peter's mom wouldn't mean anything, that's still way too big a risk to take when they're both immortal and there's literally no downside to waiting around until he can be 100% sure.

>>92594613
It wasn't a risk because he didn't see it as one. He believed it made sense and any rational being would agree, Peter even more so. I mean what's ending a life 60 years early when you're immortal and have existed for eons? It's just a blink of an eye. It makes perfect sense. It's just right. He's a perfect and superior being, of course everything he did was right and sensible.

You need to get in his head. He was his universe. He was named Ego for christsake. It's not that hard to see why he didn't think Peter would be triggered like he was after it was all explained and shown to him.

>>92590129
They treated Yondu's death like some big father-son thing, yet he and Quill didn't even meet until the final act of the movie, so there was nothing built up to that moment to justify it.

>>92594613
>Still doesn't make sense considering he had infinite time to win Peter over.
You are assuming he thinks he is the bad guy. You completely miss the point. Ego sees himself as a good man. Why would he need to win Peter over when he already explained how difficult it was to have to kill his mum? Ego doesn't really believe he did anything wrong, so he didn't feel he needed to hide it. He sees himself as a god, not a devil. He never actually lied at all in all his lines.

>>92590079
I definitely felt it opened on pretty much the same scene as the first, but it stood on its own when it separated the team and didn't have groot pretty much roll the entire movie for them

>>92593056
Rocket was fixing the ship, you mong. He just didn't have it done before the Ravagers arrived. You're seeing a problem with the plot where none exists.

>>92594720
The build up was all on Yondu's end and Peter's thing was that he realized it after Yondu was gone.

>>92594613
When is it states that everything Ego does is perfectly logical? Like the Greek gods he is older and more powerful than mortals but that does not mean he is necessarily more wise or less stuck up his own ass.

>>92592812
>I also enjoy the interpretation that what compelled Mantis to alert the Guardians to Ego's plan was touching Drax and sensing what genuine love of a father for his children feels like. It was also pretty clear Ego used her to soothe his disappointments as they agonized to death.

Holy shit why didn't I realize this sooner. Thanks for that.

>>92594755
Fucking this. People say these movies are shallow and I ain't sayin they're high art cause they most certainly are not. But goddamn, it's like people think because they're shallow they don't need to pay attention at all. Peter even says it right in the damn eulogy.

>I guess what I'm saying is, sometimes that thing you're searching for your whole life is right there by your side all along, and you don't even know it.

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i dont like how it retroactively makes starlord's sacrifice to save gamora in the first movie completely pointless by making it so peter would have survived in space with or without his mask anyway

>>92594723
>Why would he need to win Peter over when he already explained how difficult it was to have to kill his mum? Ego doesn't really believe he did anything wrong, so he didn't feel he needed to hide it.

He was hiding it up until that moment so he obviously did realize. It doesn't matter whether he thinks he's right, what matters is whether he thinks Peter will agree.

>>92594717
>You need to get in his head.

I am, and one thing that I realize once I do is that his plan could operate on timescales what we can scarcely fathom, which he obviously forgot about. Not only could he have waited until a better time to reveal he killed his mom, but once Peter rejected him, he could have just said, "all right, you and your friends are free to go and I won't commence the expansion until you agree to it." He could have just let them leave, with the caveat that he would always be here waiting for when Peter is ready, and it wouldn't even technically be a loss for him since he has LITERALLY FOREVER to finish his work

>>92594755
That's not how character arcs work

>>92594872
>i dont like how it retroactively makes starlord's sacrifice to save gamora in the first movie completely pointless by making it so peter would have survived in space with or without his mask anyway
You got it backwards. It wasn't pointless because Gamora survived. If Peter didn't do it then Gamora dies.

It would have been pointless if Gamora was the immortal one. But it isn't so it has a point.

>>92594780

He doesn't have to be perfectly logical. The bar I set is "logical enough that I couldn't have done a better job in his place"

>>92594872
What on earth are you talking about? When does Peter survive without a space suit in this movie?

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>>92594872
>move ship so that the door directly next to Gomorra instead of 10 metres away
>give her the starlord mask
>get back in ship

Whi didn't he do this in the first movie?

>>92594943
>He doesn't have to be perfectly logical. The bar I set is "logical enough that I couldn't have done a better job in his place"
You are looking from the perspective of Ego knowing he was a villain. That was clearly not how Ego sees it.

>>92594872
>peter would have survived in space with or without his mask anyway
WTF? Peter only survived in space in this movie because Yondu put his own space suit on him. Did you miss that key plot point?

>>92594943
>The bar I set is "logical enough that I couldn't have done a better job in his place"

My, how egotistical of you.

Someone sincerly explain to me how this movie had more dick jokes than Deadpool yet was PG13 and marketed as a family flick

>>92594990

No, I'm looking at it from the perspective of wanting his plan to succeed. I'm telling you I could have done a better job because I know I could.

>>92594989
An equally good question is why he didn't use the "hands" on the pod and just fly her back inside post haste. The answer is that not doing so was needed for plot advancement. The first movie has a bunch of plot holes, the second actually has less.

>>92595028
>I know for a fact that if I was a lonely ancient space god I would approach things exactly the way I do as a human
>there is no possible way I or they should or could err

>>92595027

Deadpool had more blood and curse words

>>92595028
>No, I'm looking at it from the perspective of wanting his plan to succeed. I'm telling you I could have done a better job because I know I could.
Congratulations, you are not Ego. Frankly anyone could have done a better job by just abandoning his stupid plan before the real Celestials kicked his ass. The plan can't work because he would piss off the actual gods out there. But I know what Ego doesn't know.

>>92594989
The pods weren't designed for space flight, there would be no atmosphere left inside after depressurizing.

Pay attention.

>>92595027
It didn't have gore or swearing

>>92595070
Don't forget the sex scene, I remember watching a lady hurry her two young boys out of the theater and all I could think was "you were warned lady."

>>92595062
>>there is no possible way I or they should or could err

see
>>92594943

He's millions of years old, there's no excuse for him to be dumber than I am

>>92595098
he could still fly back to the city holding his breath

>>92595124
>He's millions of years old, there's no excuse for him to be dumber than I am
You really believe that being older makes you wise? You haven't met many old people.

>>92595027
MPAA saidcDeadpool's rating was for "strong violence and language throughout, sexual content and graphic nudity". Studios can manipulate what's in the movie to get any rating they're after. Gunn can get away with swearing a bit as long as there's no nudity, and the violence is kept within certain bounds. Deadpool's studio and filmmakers wanted an R rating, so they put in maybe a couple of female nipples in the strip club scene, and had people get crushed and dismembered.

>>92595112
I have been to a lot of movies where the parents had to rush their kids out when the scenes with violence and/or nudity popped p. no matter how many times it happens, there always seems to be a fresh crop of parents who don't check beforehand to see if the movie's okay for their kids to watch

>>92595146

All the old people I know are smarter than Ego too

>>92590079
Still a good movie, I can understand people who wouldn't like it though because they are giant cunts and only like "muh gritty" "muh needs more jesus methaphors". It's not going to be a academy award winning movie, but that's not what it was aiming for, it was supposed to be a fun summer movie, much like pacific rim. And it succeeded in doing that.

>>92595178

I hate to make a political comparison, but Donald Trump is 71 and dumb as dog shit.

>>92595201

he probably could have done a better job than Ego though. I mean, you picked a pretty good example, so it's probably a toss up, but I'd give it even odds that he could

>>92595201
Trump is very intelligent and well educated and is smarter than you will ever be, cuck.

>>92595234
Hahaha, retard. If he was ever smart he sure as fuck isn't now.

>>92590079
The only problem I had with it was that it had trouble being able to keep serious during intense moments. For example, when Quinn begins to fight Ego for the last time It was very a serious point that lost its impact due to the Pac-Man joke.

Also, some of the jokes didn't really hit. Like the Tazerface joke. This movie felt like it was more aimed at kids so they had to constantly lighten the mood with jokes so the children watching it wouldn't be frightened.

>>92594717

>I mean what's ending a life 60 years early when you're immortal and have existed for eons? It's just a blink of an eye

Well yes, everything is a blink of an eye in eternity, but he still stole that blink of an eye from him. However small it was, he took that away and he naturally felt cheated. Who wouldn't?

Eternity would have eventually caused it all fade away, but he took away the possibility of it ever even existing in the first place. Because of him, the potential doesn't even exist. That alone will cause anyone to despair.

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>>92590079
Nah, get bent OP.

>>92595006
that was only after killing ego, thus making peter mortal again though. if killing eggo was the only thing that made him mortal, then when he takes off his mask in space in the first movie, it wouldn't have harmed him at all since he was still connected to "the light" at that time

>>92595294
The only time I actually liked the Taserface joke was when the ship was blowing up, and he's about to die, and he wants the Sovereign woman to tell her superiors to let Yondu know his death came at the hands of Taserface, and she can't help but laugh.

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>go to a bar before the movie starts with my bro
>talking to the bartender
>he says GOTG2 is great
>anything with Jeff Bridges is good
>get excited, think theres going to be a surprise Jeff Bridges character
>leave, get some pocket 40's at a gas station
>watch the movie, piss drunk
>after the movies over, talking with my bro
>DID THAT FUCKIN BARTENDER THINK THAT KURT RUSSELL WAS JEFF BRIDGES!?

>>92595439
>eggo
Lol. Also, did Ego actually tell Peter that he was unkillable? I don't remember that, and it wouldn't make sense, because Ego was clearly killable. The big thing seemed to be his celestial powers manifesting.

>>92595467
what the fuck is a pocket 40? like beer in a bag?

>>92595467

wait, hold on. Have Kurt Russel and Jeff Bridges ever been seen at the same time together? It's kind of like Bruce Wayne and Superman, I think there might be a connection there

>>92595439
>that was only after killing ego, thus making peter mortal again though. if killing eggo was the only thing that made him mortal, then when he takes off his mask in space in the first movie, it wouldn't have harmed him at all since he was still connected to "the light" at that time
And? If he DIDN'T take off his mask, then Gamora dies. Peter made a decision to save Gamora, how is that not important?

>>92595505
I bought a 40 and snuck it in my pocket.

Its like a pocket dog, but with a massive beer

>>92595467
>DID THAT FUCKIN BARTENDER THINK THAT KURT RUSSELL WAS JEFF BRIDGES!?
I made that mistake in my head at one point after the casting announcement. I thought "Hah, it's like a sequel to Starman. The light alien leaves her pregnant and goes back to his home planet, and that baby grows up to be Star-Lord." It wasn't until later that I realized, "Wait a minute, Kurt Russell wasn't in Starman!"

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>>92595467
>>92595526
Now that you mention it

>>92595565
>Its like a pocket dog

>>92595448
Yes that part was actually pretty good. However, when Rocket tried to explain the joke, it didn't really work but the "what was your other chioce? scrotom hat?" should have been the only thing said.

>>92595633
A hot dog in your pocket you fuckin noob

>>92595257
back to redddit, cuck

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>>92595689
>A hot dog in your pocket

>>92590607
>his goal is to cover every planet with his blob/essence
>we see this blob stuff kill people and destroy things as it expands

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>>92595735

>>92595528
no shit, but in the first movie when he does it, you think he actually might die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bseO_laCoXg
does THIS look like an immortal to you?

>>92595831
he hadn't sparked Ego's light yet

>>92595831

the usage of the term "immortal" in GotG2 just means you have an infinite life span. Immortal beings can still be killed. You can argue that they're using the word wrong, but this is absolutely true, otherwise, Ego would not have been killed since he was also immortal.

>>92595831
He's still half human and needs to breathe air. I'm quite sure if you stabbed him, he would still die as well. But if you left him alone, he would continue to live.

>>92595831
>no shit, but in the first movie when he does it, you think he actually might die

and so does he, the scene is about him selflessly risking his own life to save another so what exactly is your problem

>>92595902
Not to mention the big set piece in the first movie being the head of a dead Celestial.

>>92595683
Aside from using the joke repeatedly when that kind of humor only works once or twice, the constant downplaying of Taserface undermined him as an antagonist and, along with the overly long "Groot brings the wrong thing" joke sequence and general tone shifting, made the Ravager subplot feel like something added to fill time. It doesn't help that Taserface's motivation and reasoning were valid and the actions he and the mutineers took were no different than what Yondu did later in the film.

>>92596476
The "Groot brings the wrong thing" joke was actually pretty good for some reason. It might just be due to the the various things he brings and how no one managed to see/hear him do it.

>>92596773
I fucking lost it when he brought the table

>>92596942
yeah, the dragging sound got me so hard

>>92590079
All marvel movies are a bit shit