There are people on this very board, who will still argue that

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No, Spider-Man: The New Animated Series is the second or third best.

Barnes was a GOAT Spidey voice.

>>92586707

Too bad he died a horrible death in Spiderverse.

Or did the new Secret Wars fix all that?

I won't argue the point. I will say that Spider-Man is a boring shitty character though.

>>92586707
Spectacular Spider-man was the best cartoon.

>>92586907
This show was fucking filled with amazing voices.

Kingpin was AMAZING; Alistair was great, Eddie Brock.

>>92586907
"A" implies there's an equal. It's up there with Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill in BTAS in terms of perfect casting.

Holy fuck. Ed Asner was JJ?

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>>92586995

Roscoe Lee Browne will always be THE Kingpin.

This shit is only so beloved because of nostalgia.

It tried way too hard to be like Batman TAS but lacked the budget and attention to detail, it didn't take inspiration from a single Spider-Man run, it didn't bother to adapt classic self-contained issues, it just lacked a unified vision altogether.

Spectacular was a much better attempt. It picked a single classic run to take most of its direction from (Lee/Ditko). They spent money for great animation and top-tier writers. It took influence from the movies without just being moviefag pandering.

>other people liked this one
Damn. I'm not alone anymore.

>>92586707
>Cartoons don't look this Aryan anymore.

>>92586926

Wasn't that the Spider-Man from the Spider-man and his Amazing firends?

>>92587806
No, it was Spider-Man from Spider-Man Unlimited, which isn't canon to TAS according to Marvel editorial /and/ the official creators of TAS.

>Barnes will never come back as Spidey.

Why does it hurt so much? I just want all these guys back as their characters for one other series. It doesn't even have to be tied to TAS, they're just that good.

>>92587883
Unfortunately he can't because fucking everyone is on the Spider-Man has to always be a kid train. Barnes sounded like a MAN, and that won't fly with the new Homecoming inspired direction the're going for.

>>92587964
Why do they always pick the worse version of Spider-Man to adapt?

I can acknowledge on an intellectual level that Spectacular is better, but TAS holds a special place in my heart.

>>92586707

It had the best fucking intro

SPIDERMAN, SPIDERMAN *Guiatr solo*

>>92587994
It happened so gradually we didn't see it coming. Unfortunately, kid Spider-man is the version that most people are familiar with these days.

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>>92586707
>I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH

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I watched this series all the way through recently, it's fucking great

>my mysterious benefactor will be interested in this research
>mfw when it's always kingpin

>>92586707
There are people on this very board who will argue with autistic screeching.

OP is a clear example

>>92586707
Parker was way too fucking "chad" in this, he looked like pussy destroying line breaker.

>>92587883
He came back for Shattered Dimensions. He was Noir Spidey.

>>92588054

SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCKER

>>92587883
If you wanna hear Barnes as, at least, an iteration of Spider-Man, you should play some of the games.
He plays Noir in Shattered Dimensions, 2099 in Edge of Time and Superior in Marvel Heroes.

>>92588195
because he was based on the original Peter Parker and not the prissy beta male that he's become since then

This one was great. It's a very rare instance of an adaptation getting everything about Spider-Man right. They changed things, but at its core it was faithful to the character Lee and Ditko created.
The best part was his character growth, especially at the ending when he made peace with his tragedies and was satisfied with how he had been living his life. CDB really portrayed that well so that scene really stuck with me.

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Based fucking Morbius

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anyone else feel bad for Eddie Brock in this series? Early on he was genuinely just trying to live his life and Spiderman keeps accidentally fucking everything up for him

>>92588275
The show was ridiculously crippled by censorship and age rating though.

The shoulder tackle into wall got old even as a kid.

Downloading this series and rewatching it was the best decision i ever made

Its kino

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>>92588195
He was based on the Romita era Spidey, who was fairly buff for an acrobatic superhero.

>>92586995
Mark Hamil used his Joker voice for the Hobgoblin.

>>92588318
No! Fuck this vampire asshole! He was a piece of shit who stole Peter's blood, turned himself into a vampire and we're supposed to feel bad for him? Bullshit, he's the worst character in the damn show.

>>92588347
Eddie was a bit of a shit, though.

>Its a Spiderman becomes a literal spider episode

That shit fucked me up as a kid

>>92588393
He stole Black Cat away with his mopey bullshit.

>>92588407
Yeah but he wasn't actively malicious, he was just a bit of a douche but he was still trying to earn an honest buck and live his life

>>92588355
Censorship was worthless in the show considering all the messed up body horror and nightmare fuel that happened in this show.

90s Spiderman was a great superhero cartoon and an excellent horror cartoon.

Kraven was alpha as fuck

>>92588442
That arc ended in the bombed out basement of the WTC.

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Arguably the best toy line up in the 90s.

>>92588503

Spiderman did 9/11

This show had a fucking amazing cast of side characters

They fucking used Kraven for fucks sake

>The police were constantly after him
Only thing I didn't like.

>>92588528
I always wondered how this show would have handled Kraven's Last Hunt.

>>92588512
No he did 2/26/93.

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Blade was a total fucking dick in this show

>>92588534
It was all fucking Morbius's fault. When Morbius became a vampire he ran away from the hospital following a fight with Spider-Man, so they thought Spider-Man kidnapped him and was stealing people's blood, (it was actually Morbius doing that). Fucking Morbius.

>>92588629
I thought his voice was hilarious for some reason.

>>92588636
The JJJ media empire didn't help, even though JJJ himself actually came across as a pillar of the community and bastion of good journalism (even if he was a little misguided)

>>92588629
>>92588654

I thought Blade was cool as fuck. Even now I still think he's charming in an odd way.

>>92588684
Oh yeah don't get me wrong he was great. Most of what made him great is that he was an unnecessarily belligerent asshole with a lightsabre

It felt like almost everyone from Marvel was in this.

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Reminder that David Hayter did the voice of Captain America in this show

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>reminder that this prune looking bitch sent the fucking PUNISHER to murder the shit out of Peter Parker on just a suspicion.

>>92586707

unfortunately it is

>>92588788
Old people are terrible human beings. This is nothing new.

What was the most kino season?

You now remember this show straight up killed Mary Jane

>>92588442
I actually hoped that it would become a permanent power boost for him. Like his own form of Super Saiyan or something.

>>92588785
That whole arc was awesome and was my introduction to Captain America.

>>92588845
the one where Mary-Jane turned into water and died again

Barnes did a great job with the cries of anguish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muXld0ECq3w

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Punisher/Kraven team up. Hell this show had spidey solo the x-men & secret wars

>>92588937

>kids show
>literally kills several characters

How did they get away with it?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZGN9fZvQhc
>RADIO ACTIVE
>SPIDER BLOOD

>>92589068
people weren't such pussies back then.

>>92589068
Because clones don't count as people according to this show's logic.

>>92589092
and the real Mary Jane didn't die she just got lost between dimension for eternity

This show had amazing world building

>>92586935
yeah unlike ME BATMAN right bro XD???

>>92589075
This was the hypest Spider-Man theme of all time. They'll never top it.

>>92587550
>t didn't bother to adapt classic self-contained issues,
>the birth of venom
>the sinister six
>the 100-102 arc with Spidey growing extra arms and Morbius
>the kid who collected Spider-Man
>that arc when Spidey lost his memory and worked with Doc Ock
>SECRET WARS
>CLONE SAGA

Do you know how many fears I got from this? How many things scared me shitless as a kid?
Morbius and Blade's mother.
Man-spider Peter.

But you know what was it that freaking terrified me for some reason?
Beast Calypso.
Poor kid-anon was terrified at her.

Honestly, that whole man/beast mix with the lines blurred, freaked me out as a kid.
Especially for women, for some reason.
Same issue with the Wendigo from Charmed.

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>>92588243
>based on the original Peter Parker

>>92589272
Classic parker
Being charged with all that Alpha SpiderMale energy.

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>>92586707
>>92586707
>People still think that 90's Marvel cartoons are good.

Has there ever been a stronger case against nostalgiafaggotry its this.

>>92589075
>The symbiote nabbing Peter and eating him near the end
So fucking kino

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>>92589272
That's high school Peter, and he didn't have to hide behind a mask to talk shit to people to pissed him off.
This was about University Age Spider-Man.

>>92586707
Sorry for what's probably a dumb question, but is that TAS or SSM?

>>92589313
How do you enjoy your Spectacular Norman Osborn who's a flat moustache-twirling bad guy compared to the 90s Norman Osborn who's actually a character?

>>92589332
>that flower vase

>Chad Spiderman

Worked suprisingly well

>>92589345
It's Spider-Man: The Animated Series (TAS) from the 1990s.
SSM is from the 2000s.

>>92587550
>tried way too hard to be like Batman TAS

The fuck are you smoking? Batman TAS was an episodic, slow, dark-colored show. Spider-Man TAS was a serialized, fast, bright-colored show. Probably the most obvious difference is that Batman doesn't monologue while Spider-Man monologues whenever nobody else is talking.

>>92589243
The only thing that scared me was the cliffhanger of the ogirinal Insidious Six (was Sinister really such a spooky name?) storyline where Chameleon turned into messed-up Aunt May and laughed.

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I love it

But 60's Spiderman was superior

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>>92589363
>90s Norman Osborn who's actually a character?

>>92589388
Thank you. Haven't seen the former since it originally aired and never seen the latter.

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>>92589414

>>92589419
SSM Norman
>I'm already rich, but I wanna be a crime boss because ???
>EVERYTHING was part of my plan.

>>92588937
Holy shit, my heart is in pieces.

>>92587859

It really just can't be. It makes no sense. Why are Venom and Carnage there? Where did spider-man get the nano suit?

Unlimited as a mistake.

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This now a MADAME WEB thread.

How come this show is the only time I have ever seen this character? She seems like a cool concept.

>>92589092
Mysterio does die in this show though. Kingpin also has his father killed off-screen.

Those are the ones I can recall off the top of my head.

>>92589527
they tried to go for the pokemon crowd so badly but wanted to cash in on TAS' popularity as well, pretty terrible what we ended up with

Why is it so satisfying to hear this Spiderman tell people off in such a tone? it sounds great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrcFWBOXuaw

>>92586707
I remember watching it as a kid and it was the comfiest shit ever.

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>>92589546
Because no, she really wasn't.

I remember binge watching this show when I was a kid on a Youtube playlist. I was a noob with computers back then and I was afraid of turning it off because then I wouldn't be able to find all the episodes. It took me two days to watch it all.

The Punisher was in this show. How the fuck did they bring the Punisher into a show in which Spiderman wasn't allowed to punch anyone?

>>92589890
Punisher shoots a lot a with guns and apparently americans don't find firearms particularly violent.

>>92589665
>the pokemon crowd
explain? I don't remember Spidey collecting badges from the furry knights (except maybe that one thirsty af rat lady)

>>92589890
Did spiderman never really punch anyone?
I seem to remember him beating down bozos and choking people

>>92589890
Punisher wasn't always Punisher MAX.

>>92589791
I remember reading a story where she joined up with a bunch of villains like Norman to join up some pieces of stone that would then grant one of them power, one youth, one immortality, one death and one madness, I think. Something like that. I think she was hoping for youth. Anyone have any idea what story I'm talking about?

I never got to read the conclusion because the way comics were done here was that you had a Spider-Man comic where they put in three different Spider-Man stories from across his timeline. You'd read one story where Doc Ock is dead and his daughter is playing around with his corpse, then the next story Doc Ock would be fine and robbing a bank or some shit. They were always staggered as well, so that the ending of one story would happen when the two other stories were half-way done, so you'd keep buying copies to find out what happens in the other ones.

>>92589546
>How come this show is the only time I have ever seen this character?
She's in Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions. Also she's voiced by Stan Lee's wife.

>>92589929
They were harmless laser guns that only burnt off your clothes and gave you what amounted to a punch, silly.

>>92587462
He was and I greatly prefer him to Simmons. Not that Simmons is bad but I find Asner's slower, gravelly voiced curmudgeon take more true to the character than the fast talking 1940s style newsman take.

Eh, having watched both, I think Spectacular might be my personal favourites. The animation of the fight scenes was just top tier.
That first Sinister Six Vs Black Suit Spidey fight is absolutely unequalled.

>>92589551
JJJ's wife got killed in a flashback.

>>92586982
This.

>Spectacular fags are showing up

Go back to school you fucking 12 year olds

>>92590343
>2008 show
>12 year olds

>>92590390

>liking a show as recent as 2008

You must have been born in 2000

Of course it isn't. Spectacular exists.

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>>92589389
> fast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc7qFjuFlrc

This show had a pacing that could be generously described as "breakneck".

>>92590454
>WAHHH THIS SHOW IS MORE MODERN SO MY NOSTALGIAFAGGOT WAYS MEANS IT'S BAD
Neck yourself faggot

This show was amazing

Far better than Samurai Jack

>>92588927

It was a little long. They added an episode when the x-men couldn't be used in secret wars. I SOOOOO wish we got one less forgotten warriors and one more secret wars ep.

>>92590587
>laser handgun
>makes a cocking noise when she aims it

Top kek.

DUDE LASER GUNS LMAO

>>92590587
I think the pacing was so insane so they could keep the budget low. Shit would just keep happening in rapid order and as a kid I could barely process half of the action sequences.

>>92588785

bullshit

>>92589963
Yup. He threw exactly one punch in the entire series He missed.

>>92586707

Who voiced Spider-Man in the PS1 videogame?
I thought he was great.

>>92590951
kek

This show was actually my greatest frustration as a kid. I never got to watch a single episode until the end because it aired right before Sunday school, so 3/4 of the way through each episode I'd have to stop watching to pack my ass down the road. I still have never seen the ending to any of the episodes, except maybe one on a day when I was too sick or Sunday school was cancelled.

Goddamn free babysitting.

This thread is relevant to my interests.

Feel like watching some spiderman but I dunno if I should plow through Spectacular or the old tokusatsu series. I'm already a sentai/rider fan so that's not any kind of barrier to entry. Which would you say is better/worth watching first?

>>92590979
Rino Romano. He voiced spidey in Unlimited.

>>92587400
Rino Romano (Spider-Man Unlimited and the PS1 games) sounds just as good. I used to think they were the same person.

I loved it when I was a kid, but I recently rewatched it and found the pacing to be all over the place. The non-stop inner monologue also kinda gets to my nerves pretty quickly.

Rino Romano also played Batman in "The Batman" series.

>>92591191
The old tokusatsu series has literally nothing to do with Spider-Man outside of the name and costume. It's a fun series for sure, but if you want something more Spider-Man related then Spectacular is definitely the one you want to go with first.

>>92591191
Go through Spectacular. It's really well-paced and the 26 episodes go through like a breeze.

>>92590631
/thread

BTAS > This

>>92591674
STAS > BTAS

>>92591714
and by STAS I meant Superman

>>92591714

Superman The Animated Series is better than Batman The Animated Series?

>>92588018
SPIDER BLOOD, SPIDER BLOOD, RADIOACTIVE SPIDER BLOOD

>>92589068
Action cartoons kills off characters more often than you think.

>>92588318
PLASMA
L
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M
A

>>92589075
this show was the only one that made "random assortment of clips from various episodes intro" look like a cool concept.

>>92586900
shows with an older parker were always so much better than high school peter shit. that being said SSM is still the best regardless of it being full of high school drama.

>>92591785
Fucking hell, I never even noticed what they were saying.

>>92589490
>because ???
because the way he sees it supermen are gonna be the ones calling all the shots in a few decades regardless of what the law says, and he decided he doesn't wanna risk just assuming that his material wealth will offer him any influence in the word of tomorrow

Why cant they just make good fun shows anymore?

>>92592974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXDwIo5_AMo

>>92589995
it was called 'the joining of five' or something like that. There was definitely a number in there somewhere.

>>92590951
>>92591033
He punched the Spot through a wormhole.

>>92593008
The five part instantly sounded familiar and with quick google I found out that it was The Gathering of Five and The Final Chapter.

Reading the synopsis of the story it sounds like it had a fucking terrible ending and story over-all. I actually remember the part where Peter thinks he's about to find his daughter, but it turns out to be old biddy May instead. I remember it because I didn't know Peter had a daughter or that May was dead, so I couldn't tell what the fuck they were trying to do.

>>92588937
Cause he was Greg Brady in the movies for the Brady Bunch. Surprised they made it so Marsha and Greg were thirsty as fuck for one another.

Who here mentally hears Spidey's voice actor when reading the comics?

I do. Don't know his name for shit but that tone is burned into my audio memory like Conroy, Daly and Hamill

>>92586982
>>92590290
Truth.

>>92588937
>the dude had metal panels that conveniently slides over only the parts where the walls are cracked, all on the press of a button

Man that is some planning.

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>>92588195
He was modeled after Nicholas Hammond for some reason.

>>92590903
To be fair, X-Men: The Animated Series did the same thing.

>>92588528
So did Spectacular.

Hell, Ultimate even used z-listers like Paste Pot Pete.

>>92586707
Spectacular was better in literally every ways. Better art style, better animation, better characters, better fights, better story.

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FUN FACT: The animated series was originally envisioned as a continuation of the proposed movie that'd be directed by James Cameron and feature Electro and Sandman as the villains. That's why they're the only notable foes that don't appear in the early episodes, which instead pushed Shocker and Hydro-Man. Cameron's movie was officially scrapped during the series' run and they managed to squeeze Electro in in the later episodes.

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>>92588528
>They fucking used a famous Spider-Man villain in a Spider-Man cartoon for fucks sake
This is surprising how? A Spider-Man cartoon using any and all villains from the Sinister Six is not some OH MY GOD SO OBSCURE thing

>>92586707
Aerosmith was all it needed to be better than the rest.

>>92595105
huh, interesting.

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>>92589414
The show got even stranger now that we have some guy storytiming it every saturday. Didn't see one this week though

>>92588528
Most of the animated spider-man series have used kraven, dude
If you wanna talk obscure, the show used rocket racer and big wheel in a couple of episodes.

>>92586707
SHOCKER

>>92597234
>ome guy storytiming it every saturda
That guy still screen capping?

>>92590587
>NOOOOOOOOO
>does a fucking 10 point olypic somersault into a spin into a cannon ball

my sides

>>92597437
Yeah

>>92590587
>okay okay, you win
>spastically shoves conners and Peter out of the way
>clumsily knocks over symbiote vat and falls into it

Wow, this show was hilarious. Why did Eddie hate Spidey in this? I forget.

The writer of the show is writing Cyborg now

>>92586707
Does anyone have a mega?

>>92597564
Eddie had scoops ruined by Spider-man and made a liar out of him and JJ fired him a second time for withholding pictures showing the Rhino as the guy who endangered his son.

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>>92586900
Was that the cell-shaded 3d animated one done by MTV(?) right after the first Toby McGuire Spider-man movie?

I always thought that it ended it's one season on a good note. He quit being spider-man. Put his suit in a suitcase with some bricks and an audio recording of himself explaining why he's quitting, and tosses it into a river.

I was sure it was a cheap sequel hook, but actually ending the series with Spider-man saying "fuck this, I'm fed up with trying to be a hero" is pretty unheard of for shows. At least I can't think of any other show to end like that.

>>92599389
literally the first reply in this thread

>>92599429
Yes, that's the one he's quoting, doofus.

>>92595105
Wasn't this also why they had to use Hobgoblin before Green Goblin?

>>92601006
That was to promote the character since he was bug in comics at the time

>>92588845
It's a hard competition between 3 and 4.

>>92588937
I can still never get over this.

Like They avoid having Mary Jane actually die by having her go into the portal, but then they do this shit.

She comes back, we get to know her again, they get fucking married, they're husband and wife for some time. Wilson Fisk and JJ compete for who will pay for Peter's marriage.

Then they do this shit like it's somehow better? They clearly establish she has all the memories and thoughts of the real Mary Jane, and truly loves Peter. And fuck man, Barnes sells that fucking performance. That's such raw, powerful anguish. It's rare to see emotion that raw and gut wrenching in any performance period, much less a fucking 90s saturday morning cartoon.

>>92589419
90s TAS Osborn is the most fleshed out, 3-dimensional, and engaging version of the character.

>>92595105
The lack of Sandman has always seemed odd. I only discovered him years later when I got into the SM comic lore.

>>92601006
This decision really ended up being for the best I feel like. It worked really well. Hobgoblin was eccentric enough that you bought him going with the goblin motif for the mercenary venture, and this ends up providing a really good origin for Green Goblin, and made Green Goblin seem a lot more significant of an enemy, when he could outperform Hobgoblin so dramatically.

>>92586707
I like that he wasn't a twink highschool spider man

>>92588195
As it should be

>>92601590
i don't mind either body type

>>92586995

Kingpin's voice was fucking perfection. As was Spider-Man's.

THAT SAID: The show was, overall, hot garbage. It does not hold up all that well today. The animation alone makes me want to gouge my eyes out, even by '90s action cartoon standards.

>>92601706
I remember watching it a few years back and liking it. It did have a lot of shitty moments though.

>>92601735

I've seen magical girl anime shows that recycled animation less than the '90s Spider-Man cartoon did.

>>92590587
>Put Spider-Man down!
fucking kek

Spectacular had the best banter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYTXcgzKKhk