>God you're pretentious He talks a whole lot of

But he's not a pretentious rapist.

>new family guy
into the trash it goes

>that one episode where he fucks an underaged girl but doesn't have to go to jail because his mother fucks the judge
BRAVO FAMILY GUY

>>92573128
Are you implying that the old family guy was any better?

Has Quagmire just suddenly realized he lives in a world where being pretentious is not only common, but commonly accepted?

>>92573160
yes

>>92573110
That's the point though.

>>92573110
The scene is basically Seth MacFarlane talking to himself through two of his characters.

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>Having consensual sex with droves of women
>Is a rapist.

>>92573110
She consented you faggot

It would be a lot more understandable if it was Peter finally going off on him instead of Quagmire

>>92573208
didnt he rufee the bachelorette

>>92573110

the thing that annoys me is Brian wasn't originally pretentious at all

he was mostly just sarcastic with a dry wit

>>92573110


Shut the fuck up, you faggot.

>>92573208
>>Having consensual sex with droves of women
That's not that part that make him a rapist.

It's all the women he has roofied that does.

>>92573356
>he was mostly just sarcastic with a dry wit
Stewie basically take that role now.

He might be the one character to have improved.

>>92573356
Irony has become a no-no because of it's overuse.
Being sardonic and aloof is equalled to pretentiousness. There's currently an obsession with being "real" without people being able to define what it means.

>>92573160
It was by fucking miles though. Not amazing, mind you, but it would've certainly been looked back upon as a classic if they just left it at 3 seasons.

>>92573110
Bad writing general?

>>92573110
Being pretentious is worse than being a rapist.

>>92573110
it's a serious moment

>>92573208
>"Dear Diary... Jackpot!"

>>92573110
>gives shit to brian for loving Lois
>whole first season he's a total creep collecting Lois' belongings and loving her too
Trash.

>>92573110
>ITT: we point out that Seth McFarlane is incredibly up his own ass about every single aspect of his USI riddled personality

who doesnt know this already

>>92573110
he is what all men should aspire to be

>>92573208
During the episode where he teaches Meg how to deal with a bully that he has sex with women unconsentually.

>>92573160
It was pretty funny because the plot and jokes were actually civil and sane while now it's just autism intensified.

>>92573208
Welcome to /co/. Where whenever a straight cis white male has sex, it counts as rape.

>>92573110
>My brain is full of fuck

>>92574983
Fuck off /pol/

>>92573128
this ep is new family guy? I think I saw this 7 years ago if not longer. Though to be fair I have no idea when family guy ended or if it is still going on.

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>>92575144
>Implying /pol/ is the only board that views /co/mblr with contempt.

>>92575249
So /v/? Because there's no difference at this point.

>>92574310
/thread

>>92575176
'new family guy' is everything after they got un-cancelled, which is the vast majority of family guy a this point

>>92573110
That scene is so fucking stupid.
>Rapist
>Pedophile
>Constantly attempts to fuck his friends' wives
>Literally fucked his friend's wife and attempted to hide it while continuously doing so
>Tries to give a holier-than-thou speech to Brian, including shitting on him for wanting to fuck Lois

>>92573160
It was a LOT better. For one, the jokes didn't use shock humor as a crutch, the show just happened to be aimed at adult audiences.

>>92573208
So you don't watch the show then.

>>92573256
maybe in very early episodes when they were all still human, but now its cannon that Peter habitually physically and emotionally abuses Meg, and there was this running joke for a while that he has a huge collection of child porn. Everybody in the show is some kind of horrific criminal now because it's easy to write.

>>92573208
>has a trunk full of Chinese sex slaves
>as they escape Quagmire says "It's alright, they're tagged."
>consentual
He's a rapist.

>>92573110
At the time Brian needed this but its shifted waaaay to far in Quagmires side.

Then again Brian only got this bad because the Writers let him be such an asshole

And more importantly is fucking family guy. Stay for the cutaways then go home

>>92575549
Is Family Guy the only cartoon where the main characters are sick criminals? I can't think of any other series where everyone is a damn degenerate.

>>92575363
Lois is the only one he didn't bang right?

he tries but stuff happens.

is loretta's will still canon (glenn gets the money instead of cleveland if conditions aren't met)?

>>92573110
Who cares?

It could've been hitter saying it and it'd still be true.

>>92573110
That's all well and good, OP. He admit that he's a rapist so that makes it okay!

>>92573208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWvC5F_nilE

>>92575759
superjail

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You now remember that this happened

>>92575472
Actually since 2 years back Peter and Meg actually have a great relationship for the most part, it's basically Meg and Lois that have this spiteful relationship where Lois hates everything about her and Meg has just given up and doesn't treat her with any love or respect.

Along with that random episode where they didn't even try to give Stewie a legimitate grievance with Meg.

>>92575767
Lois has come close to banging Brian a few times but never Glenn, though he has slept with both Bonnie and Loretta.

>>92576814
This is the basic level of contratianism and having no idea of men of religion also doing scientific research.

>>92576814
it's a run of the mill surface level joke like any other Family Guy joke

>>92577035
>contratianism
contrarianism*

>>92577035
No, Seth has a hateboner for Christians but won't say shit about Islam because he's a giant pussy

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>>92576985
>Peter's Sister happen
>It's another ending with Peter promising to stop abusing Meg.
>"Yeah sure lets see how long this lasts..."
>MFW it actually does so far.

Everything is going better than expected.

>>92573152
To be fair, he didn't know she was underage when he picked her up. You're saying that Rob Lowe should be in prison too. Statutory rape laws are pretty draconian. He's done way, way worse stuff that he hasn't seen any repercussion for.

>>92575759
Simpsons? Futurama?

>>92573110
That was the point though, the joke is that it's Quagmire of all people that hates Brian despite the fact that he's worse.

It's like if Adolf Hitler called you a shitty person because you parked in a handicap spot.

>>92577270
>Simpsons?
I haven't watched this is years but I don't they're that fucked up.

>Futurama?
Not this either but last I remember they were actually likable.

>>92577669
Bender prides himself on being a criminal.

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>>92577698
>comparing bender to family guy levels of degeneracy
Anon

>>92578107
What about ATHF, Squidbillies, Superjail, Dora the Explorer, comics like Megg and Mogg, and regular shows like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia?

>>92573110

>Taking a cartoon's characters rants about morality seriously

>>92575249
Why /pol/ act same way when called out like stereotypical jews when called out?

>>92573110
People who call Quagmire out for being a rapist, missed the entire point of this scene. This wasn't him comparing himself against Brian, this was his answer to why he doesn't like Brian. An answer that Brian kinda forced out of him.

>>92579602
/pol/ are a bunch of self-hating jews

The problem with family guy is that essentially everybody except Joe is a fucking ruthless psychopath. Joe is the only exception because the show thinks being a cripple counts as a characters flaw.

Seriously. Name one character that is even slightly sympathetic

>>92580096
Adam West and maybe Dr. Hartman.

>>92574609
he heard a "yes"

>>92579674
That doesn't mean Quagmire isn't a hypocrite when he says Brian is a jerk for trying to sleep with Lois even though Quagmire has tried to do the exact same thing.

>>92580096
Chris' closet monkey

>>92576814
Also Jesus came on the show just to say that there's no difference between Christianity and Judaism, and that all religions are false.

>>92573110
ITT
>you can't criticize me because of your flaws! Therefore your valid points are disregarded

>>92580398
Peter doesn't provide for Quagmire and Glen doesn't shit on his lawn either.

>>92573152
>he takes her home
>she willingly lies to him about her age
>he still gets a sentence
>she gets nothing
BRAVO LEGAL SYSTEM

>>92580174
Adam West has straight up murdered people for fun, is extremity corrupt and arbitrary with his power.

The doctor is unlicensed and has killed people with his malpractice and his incompetence left joe fully paralyzed.

>>92580096

Does anyone remember that episode where Lois kidnapped a child and literally faced no repercussions whatsoever?

>>92580398
Being a hypocrite doesn't mean you're wrong. For example, a drug addict is the best person to say that drugs are bad.

>>92573110
I'm still baffled as to why they let Quagmire try to rip Brian apart

It should have been Joe

>>92573470
And the teenager who was tied up that he nailed.

>>92581777
Are you talking about the Christian Scientist one? Because she had good intentions on that one, so it's far from the worst example.

>>92580421
"I am in NO mood!!"

>>92576814
True

>>92580096
Meg is 100% faultless.

>>92575176
I think this episode was from 2009

>>92578107
Bender actually is a degenerate though, it's just executed better in Futurama

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What is the WORST Family Guy episode?

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>>92573110
>Hey Lois, remember that time I went to Mexico?
Comedy gold

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>>92582093
Herpes The Love Sore. It made me irrationally mad.

>>92582093
the one where peter has a conjoined twin. That's the episode I decided to stop watching the show entirely

>>92574592
seth stopped writing for the show way before this happened.

>>92582093
All of them

>>92580096
>Name one character that is even slightly sympathetic

Meg is the most sympathetic member of the family since a lot of her problems can be traced back to them shitting on her.

>>92576814
stay mad

>>92582093
Definitely Herpes.
Even that brian/stewie hybrid episode that people often bring up isn't that bad because the gore is over the top cartoonish instead of just horrible like Herpes. Also, the offhand cruelty of that episode kind of reminds me of Beautiful Darkness, one of my favorite comics.

>>92573110
It wouldn't have been so bad if it was just a one and done thing. Or like Brian had done something to quagmire where he started off alright but just made him more and more upset as the episode went on, leading up to the rant.

But instead they made it one of those rare and weird moments where the show likes to keep continuity. Didnt' really help that for the longest Quagmire was throwing the first punch in the feud,

>>92581982
She's crazy but it's hard to blame her.

>>92582093
Hepres. It's bad enough that I'm being assaulted with disgusting shots of the sores, the sub-plot involving Peter is insufferable too. This is possibly the only episode of anything that actually made me genuinely mad. I'm baffled, why of all the fiction out there, one of the only ones to make me actually mad is a fucking FG episode.

>>92582093
Stewie Is Enceinte was the breaking point for me. Herpes the Love Sore is sick, but Enceinte is just outlandish and disturbing.

>>92575249
Yeah, there's also /co/.

>>92573110
>literal rapist gets away with rape

Is Family Guy immune to SJWs?

>>92581248
>What is entrapment
>>92581777
As long as charges aren't pressed then you're in the clear "most" of the time when the government isn't involved.

>>92584771
Maybe they just don't give a fuck about them, like everyone should do.

>>92582093
The one where Quagmire's sister is being abused by her boyfriend. The most offensive FG episodes for me are the ones in which they try to be serious, an unfortunate habit they have when it comes to wrap up what little story is in the episode. But that particular one was just misguided to an embarrassing and enraging level.

Here's the fucking thing though:

Brian still has the moral high ground.

Brian's experiences with women are pathetic, sure. He's egotistical and condescending, looking down on people he believes are "dumber" than him, which often bites him in the ass more often than not. There's no denying that his blatant atheistic viewpoint and virtue-signaling can get on people's nerves. However, these traits always bring about some sort of humbling experience, forcing him to either change his ways or accept the consequences of his actions. It what makes him a well-intentioned, but ultimately flawed character.

Quagmire, on the other hand, almost never faces those consequences. His actions are either hand-waved or excused as him "being Quagmire", followed by a quick non-sequitur and a return to the main story. His flaws are viewed as comedic, something the audience is just supposed to accept. And even when they are brought to bear, it's usually in such a way as to highlight a greater problem, like society's current ills or some other global phenomenon.

Frankly, it wasn't until that episode that I realized just how hypocritical it was for Quagmire to criticize anyone, let alone Brian.

Everything he says in that speech is a projection of his own faults:

His treatment of women.
His adoration of his best friend's wife.
His estranged relationship with his family.
His refusal to accept the outcome of his own decisions.
And, most of all, his condescension towards everyone and everybody that isn't him.

In other words, he's the "Trump" of Family Guy.

>>92574983
Quagmire is part Japanese though.

>>92585587
That isn't true, he said that to prank Peter and Joe on a Kamikaze maneuver.

>>92581248
>"Sorry officer I thought the speed limit was 95 instead of 30, and someone spray-painted NOT A before "school zone" on that sign."
>"Oh okay, carry on."

>>92581811
Joe doesn't have any obvious problems with Brian. Until his sole defining character trait became "the cripple" instead of "the nice guy who is good at everything and gets really pumped up even though he's in a wheelchair" Joe and Cleveland were the only nice guys in the group.

Now Joe is just the cripple, but he's still somewhat the nicest of the group, while Cleveland is the retard who happens to be black. Even if he did have a problem with Brian he might be too nice to come out and say it.

>>92586127
If the show was a bit better, I could see a pretty good breakdown of modern liberals by using Cleveland fighting Brian. Cleveland is upset that Brian treats him like a prop or that Brian treats black people as children not responsible for their own actions while Brian is angry that Cleveland is 'intentionally misunderstanding' him because he's simply too proud to accept help or something.

>>92573256
Or, better yet, Jerome.

>>92574507
Not to mention his little fling with Loretta.

>>92577035
the idea that galileo's christianity is what made him a scientist is silly.

the idea that christianity locked galileo up for disagreeing with the church is fact.


if you think that just because a few christians or priests became scientists that christianity as a religion played any role in scientific advancement you're a fucking idiot.

the rape thing was a gimmick. calling out Brian was Seth calling out himself.
also like every character in this show probably has a kill list about a mile long so I don't know where ethics factors in

>>92586248

I don't know.
Jeromes a little too new to the cast, so it might not carry as much weight.

Now if LOIS went off on him…

I'd need some fresh popcorn for that.

>>92574609

She wanted it, though, so it's OK

>>92576814
>>92586377
Reminder that if it weren't for Christians, children would still be shoving their arms-stubs into cogs and gears instead of learning.

>>92574983
>dear diary...jackpot
>don't worry, they're tagged
>You mean when I tried to roofie you and have sex with your unconscious body
>To this day I can't have sex with a woman against her will without thinking of rape
>his camper has a button that forces the passengers head into his crotch
>his bed has arms to restrain anyone who lays in it

Clearly you don't watch the show but you've decided to comment in this thread for some fuckin reason. Retard

>>92577111
He has made jokes about Islam before, but they don't really deal with it as much. Muslims were the main antagonists of Turban Cowboy anyways

>>92582093
Among those I remember, the one where Lois became surrogate mother is my personal disfavourite.

Or perhaps the domestic abuse one.

>>92586127
At least Joe would have the moral high ground.

Quagmire is a much worse person than brian

>>92573110
I never watched beyond Season 3 of Family Guy but I've seen this rant. What the fuck did they do to Brian to make him deserve this exactly

>>92573110
Why does /co/ get so butthurt at this scene?

>>92573110
Nobody likes being harassed but that's what Brian did to Quagmire, instead of accepting that some people just won't like you because of X, Y and Z(a lesson most of /co/ hasn't learned) he tried to win over someone that he never paid any attention to until this episode. He basically pushed Quagmire from quietly hating him into being pissed off at him because if he didn't go off on him he'd never buzz off .

>>92573110
I got this from youtube. This basically shows that Brian isn't that shitty while Quagfag does some of the most sinister shit possible. This shit was pretty stupid.

Man, Quagmire is a jerk and a hypocrite.

>"This is how your repay him?"
Says the one who has constantly been hitting on Lois for years and even got arrested for watching her going to the bathroom. And also tricked his other best friend into allowing him to have sex with his wife.

>"You defecate all over his yard"
I'm pretty sure that's what all dogs do.

"You pretend to date women for their souls"
That's better than being a total dick to women in general and throwing them out after one night.

>"At least I'm honest about it."
No you're not, you drug women with rohypnol and rape them and trick them into having unprotected sex with you and even sexually assault women.

>"But later never comes"
he just paid dinner for you.

>"What have you done to help?"
He held a whole parade to encourage legalization of marijuana, started a petition to overturn ban on gay marriage and he supported Peter in his fight against censorship. That's more than you ever did.

>"Because religion is for idiots"
He never said that actually. All he has done so far is pointing out hypocrisy in religion, how religious organizations have exploited people's ignorance and that he doesn't like how people kill each other over religion.

>"Failure as a father."
Says the one who deliberately ignores ALL his children and dumps all women after getting them pregnant. At least Brian made his son a better person.

>"How's that son of yours you never see?"
How's that daughter of yours you never see and refused to take responsibilities for?

Didn't the guys murder a guy and keep it secret two different times? The sisters abusive boyfriend and the one hook handed guy?

>>92587388
Nah man, that was cos of Methodists. The rest of Christianity is shit-tier compared to those patricians.

i never NEVER watched a family guy episode because it looks like a discount simpsons and south park,reading this thread looks like i am right

>>92585393
Reddit please go.

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>>92575759
everyone in KOTH is a criminal

Hank blew up the Mega Lo Mart, blew up a car lot, bought crack, pimped, among other crimes

Peggy killed a meat mogul, almost killed Randy Travis, kidnapped a Mexican girl, among other crimes

Bobby made meth, burned down a church, among other crimes

Luanne helped kill the meat mogul, among other crimes

Dale burned down the fire station, engaged in multiple criminal enterprises with his Mexican criminal friend, among other crimes

Bill stole a tank from the army base and destroyed half of Arlen, among other crimes

Boomhauer, despite being a Texas Ranger, was complicit in or otherwise ignored crimes committed by his friends

Cotton committed grand theft auto, assault, covered up Bobby burning down the church, among other crimes

Buck Strickland framed Hank for murder and planted evidence, among other crimes

even Connie covered up Bobby's drug crime. there wasn't one character on this show that wasn't a criminal in some form, yet no one ever had to face any consequences for it

>>92586127
>Joe doesn't have any obvious problems with Brian

until Brian fucked Bonnie and they ran away together

>>92588170
I think the intended point was that we weren't supposed to take sides, so if it was Joe vs Brian, everyone would side with Joe, for example. I've heard people call it "A more cerebral version of the giant chicken" where you're not really rooting for one side, you're just enjoying the show.

>>92589391
These aren't played for laughs though, these crimes (half of which you deliberately or ignorantly misrepresented) are usually done in desperation or accidentally as a gag. Hank buying crack and just being clueless about it because he's so straight laced was a gag. Bobby helping a girl he wanted to impress make meth without realizing what it was was a gag. Even Peggy and Luann killing the pig guy was a (very dark) gag, he was insane and attacking them, it's not like they deliberately planned his murder. Same with Hank and Bobby, once it dawned on them what was up they were horrified and more than eager to make things right.

In Family Guy someone will get a limb chopped off, fall over with one arm draped behind their back, and the shot shows them bleeding out for seconds, and that's the gag.

>>92585364
I had no problem with that episode since it was actually a brilliant callback to the episode with Brian getting called out by Quagmire (there was a bit where Quagmire mistakes the sister for a one night stand Quagmire roughed up).

That said, the only real problem with the episode was that Brian wasn't the one who saved Glenn when the murder plot failed. Which would have given them a way to fix the problem with the episode with Glenn shitting on Brian via having Brian FINALLY gaining Glenn's friendship by saving his life and the life of his sister.

>>92574983
>>92575249
fucking retard

>>92573110
But he was right.

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>>92582093
The one where Meg calls out everyone in the family during a hurricane, yet she stays with them because they need her or some shit.

It was potential for Meg to move on, but it's Family Guy so that's asking for too much.

>>92573110
He's quite honest about his degenerate ways. Brian pretends to be something that he's not

If a rapist calls out a pretentious bore for being so, is he wrong about it because he's a rapist?
I think his points hit a little too close to home for all the Brian apologists in here.

>>92577669
Yes but Bender is one character. Anon was asking whether there were other shows where [all or most of] "the main characters are sick criminals"

Simpsons is pretty tame. Homer can be described as a sick criminal, particular in seasons from the mid 2000s (couldn't tell you if the trend stayed into the present, I stopped watching around 2008/9) but Lisa, Bart, and Marge break the law fairly infrequently and usually do it for a single joke/episode rather than being characterized as being horrible degenerates.

Futurama has Farnsworth and Bender as obvious criminals; Leela and Zoidberg probably do a bunch of illegal things too but aren't 'sick' or intentionally wicked, Fry and Amy are both pretty innocent (morally at least).

>>92582093
That episode where the commercials tricked you into thinking it would be all about the TNG cast hanging out with the Family Guy characters, when they were just the B-plot to another "religion is bad and Meg sucks" story.

>>92573152
>the episode where he finds an underage girl tied up in the bathroom

>>92575249
Eat shit /pol/ retard

>>92576814
I like how they admit that only Europe contributed to science

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>It's a "take a comedy cartoon as if it's a serious and consequential drama" thread

>>92585976
no, it would be someone changing the 95 sign for a 85 sign. if the girl has big tits, you can safely assume shes legal unless explicitly told otherwise

>>92591798
Funny, Family Guy makes that same mistake.

>>92576985
I mean Stewie's her little brother and his whole thing was being a mad scientist who hates everyone so.

>he's a pervert therefore a rapist

/co/mblr

>>92573431
I'm hoping a fat ugly bitch wearing a strap-on roofies and rapes you. You literally have no idea what it's like to be sexually assaulted. Maybe you'll learn when you're raped in prison.

>>92591801
>if the girl has big tits, you can safely assume shes legal unless explicitly told otherwise
There are also 15-year-old men with full-grown beards.
You're just begging to be charged for statutory if you're going to guess age just off of "size of tits"

>>92592023
Do you watch the show at all? He roofied a lot of women, he camps out in Meg's highschool, he doesn't take no as an answer, he's a registered sex offender, etc.

>>92576814
Sure thing. The atheists struggled in the new world and colonize America, instead the the lazy puritans

Is this entire thread bait? Get a grip people, IT'S A FUCKING CARTOON.

>>92575249
Most threads view /co/ with contempt now a days. The time of cosy /co/ is over.

>>92591050
>It's ok to be abused as long as your abusive family is happy

The thing FG has done for a while that makes those episodes awful is that they try to put gravity on some of the situations that are supposed be only there as a gag to laugh at and forget.

>>92576814
I personally blame this episode for much of the historical illiteracy found in millennials today.

>>92585976
That's one of the dumbest comparisons I've ever read.

>>92592650
>The time of cosy /co/ is over.
Only because the medium being discussed has turned so very rancid.
I only come back for classic storytimes (<2009), which speaks volumes to how quickly things went downhill.

>>92582113

I took ONE step outside the resort...

>>92573110
Is Seth making all his characters self inserts now?

>>92576814
Many atheists actually believe this shit.

>>92588863
>>"How's that son of yours you never see?"
How's that daughter of yours you never see and refused to take responsibilities for?
And the giraffe-human hybrid he fathered, a latino man and 2 strippers he should owe back child support for.

>>92573208
>Has consensual sex with droves of women
>Also has unconsensual sex with droves of women
>Somehow that makes him a rapist

Boy that really activates my almonds.

>>92577014
I'm just waiting for that ep. Brian deserves it. He MARRIED her, for crap's sake. He deserves at least one shag.

Why does Lois not want Brian? They're way more compatible together than they are with anyone else.

Well, before they both turned into irredeemable shits at least.

Brian is just a hypocrite when it comes to women, he acts all liberal and respectful but is pretty judgmental and shitty about them deep down, from their looks to their intelligence. Meanwhile he's actually pretty average, even as a writer he's not very talented and his intellect is nothing but typical progressiveness and ivory tower interests. He's had a few "girlfriends" in the series but I don't really think any of them were very amazing women, it seems he punches down in the dating department since I've never felt mad at him for being shitty to most of the women he's been with. Mostly because they weren't very spectacular or good as people. I think he wanted to go after Meg's friend Patty once but even then that was just creepy of him.

>>92575363
Don't forget that he also murdered a guy and not in a cutaway gag or a joke.

>>92573110
>rapist
Go away tumblr, that doesn't work anymore.

>>92573642
No

>>92575249
This /co/ has become a laughing stock

>Even fucking /ck/ calls /co/ /co/mblr

>>92590134
>they're not played for laugh
>they're a gag

What did he mean by this

>>92576814
>christcucks

>>92581651
So?

>>92576814
>>92594634
>Be an atheist
>get associated with this shit
Its not fair man. Besides weren't the dark ages a result of the fall of Rome? I don't really see how Christianity fits in. Maybe a history buff can fill me in.

>>92595888
I'm not the history buff I used to be, but I think the rise of Christianity was more the result of declining social and political order than the other way around. It would be interesting to see how world history would have turned out without Christianity (and, by extension, Islam as we know it).

>>92596414
>It would be interesting to see how world history would have turned out without Christianity (and, by extension, Islam as we know it).

instead of owning 95% of the world the jews own all of it

>>92595888
I had an interesting class last year where we learned about the roots of constitutionalism came from secular rulers and the church waving their dicks at each other

>>92573160
gonna have to agree with this anon. Family Guy was utter shit to begin with. I'm honestly surprised how many people here defend it. It was empty, soulless, and ugly in every sense of the word from the very first episode.

>>92573160
It was mediocre, but still leagues better than the modern family guy trash that is made today.

>>92596661
What made it soulless in your opinion?

>>92596794
I always got this feeling when I watch the show that I'm being condescended by it. There is no intellectual dialogue happening between the writer and viewer, rather just a disorganized collection of ideas that are controversial and offensive just for the sake of being controversial and offensive, rather than provoking any kind of real thought or emotion.

There is no character development whatsoever and nothing that makes you interested in the characters as the people they're supposed to represent. In place of that, we have instead endless meandering references to other shows that are always taken in some predictably violent, sexual or otherwise vulgar or cruel direction. The "characters" are just a vehicle to get to these irrelevant and unentertaining moments.

The show is also utterly hideous to look at and it is clear to me that nobody involved in it has any creative passion other than to impress you with cheap shock value like a middle school kid who just learned a curse word.

It simply does not come off to me like a show that was made with any intention of actually relating to its audience; but rather to appeal to the most base, primal emotions of being shocked by something pointlessly hateful and ill-natured (not to mention completely irrelevant) that only children and unintelligent people will still find amusing after the third or fourth time.

But that's just my opinion. I respect your opinion whether you agree with me or not, and to be fair every hundred or so jokes it got a smirk out of me, but that is my honest opinion on Family Guy.

>>92591106
He is wrong because its not even that he just called him a pretentious bore, he called him out on a bunch of things quagmire does as well
>being a dick to women
>trying to sleep with lois
>Distancing himself from family
>not raising his children well or at all

If his point had only been "brian is a pretentious and snobby bore" that would have been fine, but adding the rest there kills it because it makes quagmire a hypocrite.

Its not about being an "apologist". Brian is a shit character, but he didnt used to be quite as shit, quagmire has always been a shit character willing to do pretty horrible things, anyone old enough to remember this is probably going to call bullshit when the writers try and pass them off as equal.

>>92573110
Given all of Quagmires faults maybe the entire scene was just 2meta4U

>>92595888
The dark ages were a very loosley defined period during the fall of the classical Roman empire and it's split into West and East empires with a lot of the old western territories falling into the native kingdoms and 2 major Goth kingdoms.

It was called dark ages by a few historians who believed that the classical antiquity or Rome at it's peak and Greece before Rome invaded were the peak of human civilisation. Not everyone agreed, but the name stuck. It's also why the term Gothic Architecture is a thing, originally it was an insult to buildings that didn't look Greco-Roman enough.

Christianity at the time with the Pope became a focal point for many of the warring kingdoms to set down rules of how they fought, who was entitled to the crowns they fought over and generally stopped a lot of major bloodshed and from everyone falling back to pre-roman tribes and bartering trade. The Monks and Abbeys were also the ones responsible for first maintaining the old records, history, manuscripts and learnings. Passing them onto the next generation. And later they were the forefront of new studies and scientific research until the wealth of the Renaissance allowed private institutions and persons to do their own research. The idea being that they knew the bible was parables and not 100% literal and wanted to understand HOW God created everything the way He did. And that mean research with the scientific method.

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>>92576814

2deep bro

>>92585393
you had me till that last part
just bring up trump to show off your "im a lefty bitch who slurps the semen of the winners, but I DONT like it!" stance on politics
people like you are the reason trump is president

>>92592180
The thing is if you can prove within reasonable suspicion you thought she was legal, you can't be sentenced for that.
I remember a few years ago someone a town over fucked some chick who turned out to be 16 he met at a bar. She had a fake ID and everything, her parents found out and tried to have the guy put in jail.
Judge struck it down because she had met the guy at a bar with a fake 21 year old ID.

Now if you meet someone online who's "totally 18" and don't get some ID beforehand, and fuck em, you're probably fucked.

>>92586377
>the idea that christianity locked galileo up for disagreeing with the church is fact.

But that's wrong retard.

Why not educate yourself before preaching to others?

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>>92576814

Seth McFarlane is one of those types of people who unironically believes pic related

>>92595888
The Dark Ages only really define a period after the Roman Empire fell and the whole Western world lost its central pillar huge civilization as its backbone and was scrambling to figure out what to do.

Also there was the plague, but if I remember right the Dark Ages and the plague don't align 1:1 by time period.

>>92598896
The plagues happened due to a rise in cities, if you specifically mean the Black Death, that occured near the end of the "Dark Ages" that lead into the High Medieval period that led into the Renaissance.

>>92598896
>>92598990
Sorry sorry I meant the Late Medieval period. The High Medieval period preceded the black death.

>>92598746
>Christian Dark Age
Is this graph really trying to imply that we lost all our technology and then didn't make any for a while because of Christianity, or that the Dark Ages even started because of Christianity?

>>92599060
Yep.and given where it lists Egypt and Greece, the people of the dark ages apparently forgot how metal works and had to go back to stone tools.

>you're not allowed to citicize people if you're a shitty person
Are you people retarded? So if I served a rapist or murderer or whatever a terrible, still raw steak, is he not allowed to complain? If I said gravity does not exist, is he not allowed to say I'm wrong?

>>92598250
That sounds like a cool book

>>92574983
There's literally an episode where he gets caught fucking an underaged girl and charged with statutory rape.

>>92576814
The best part is that this isn't even the most retarded argument they got for why religion is bad. There's one episode that boils down to "WELL IF GOD IS REAL THEN WHY ARE YOU SO UGLY?!" as an argument.

>>92598557

…No, people like YOU are the reason Trump is president. Projecting your lack of self-confidence onto others in order to make your own empty life feel like is has meaning is EXACTLY the kind of weakness that allows men like him to take advantage of you and others like you.

I couldn't give a DAMN about Hillary's emails, or her connections to Soros for that matter. But I guess actually believing in the government makes me part of the "ignorant masses", am I right?

How 'bout you drop the act, tough guy—one way or another, Drumpf's gonna fuck you in the ass. And no amount of hipster contrarianism's gonna save you from that.

…But to your point, I couldn't necessarily call him the "Bendy" of Family Guy, since that would imply a COMPLETE lack of likability on Quagmire's part.

>>92576814
*tips fedora*

>>92573160
I fucking hate FG, but even I can't deny that the first 2 seasons were genuinely funny. They were also a lot more "innocent" and well meaning.

>>92595590
You can try to be as revisionist as you want, but the show was lauded back in the day when it first came out for a reason

>>92597972
>you hit someone
>I hit someone
>since I hit someone I'm wrong for pointing out you hit someone
This is how you sound.

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>>92573110
How many times does this thread need to be made before /co/ finally stops talking about the shitpipe that is Family Guy, or at the very least this scene.

>>92586377
The Church brought to trial/locked up Galileo primarily because Galileo wrote a slam piece on a high ranking authority. It was justified because the church and academic community didn't believe he had enough hard evidence (he didn't for that matter, it was Kepler's work that provided definitive proof) to teach heliocentrism as nothing more than a distant possibility. This was after he had been censured and let off for teaching the theory as indisputable fact a few times, so the one that lead to house arrest was basically his fifth strike or so.

He was also retarded enough to leave the political safety of Venice (where his most supporting patrons, clerical and secular, held power) and attempted to play up his celebrity in Florence as a political game. As it turned out, a scholar was not adept at playing the political field.

>>92599327
And don't forget that China, Persia, Khmer, India, and Mesopotamia apparently didn't exist. As well as Eastern Rome providing the continuity of Rome well into the 1100s, while also being a Christian state

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>>92588166
>surrogate episode

That episode was utter bullshit. The only message I got was:

>It doesn't matter if you're in a committed relationship, feel free to do whatever you want and don't worry about the haters!

And then American Dad handles it even worse

>>92573152
sorce?

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>>92573110

>>92577258
> rape laws are draconian
t. Rapist

>>92603048
>doesn't know its legal in the states to marry your six year old off
>yet we have laws that lets minors lie to adults and get away with it

>>92595630
>cant have kelly threads anymore because someone gets made politics are brought up in a thread with political cartoons as its primary topic

jesus christ
open the damn images and enjoy some kelly and ignore the anons or gtfo of the thread you babies

>>92589029
Humanity is just shit teir. Religion acts as an awakening for your minds eye. Give you morality.

For the longest time people couldn't even read the bible but folowed the faith. You can easily understand why christians would be so fucked up despite having a religion. The ability to actually read(thus properly comprehend with your own perceptive) the scriptures is a part of our evolution as a whole.

>>92573110
Ironically this is what started making Quagmire pretentious and unlikable himself.

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>>92575759
Foxxy is pure though

>>92588863
>overturn the ban on gay marriage
>help

>>92594941
He's a herpes-infected dog.

>>92588863
>How's that daughter of yours you never see and refused to take responsibilities for?
the one he put up for adoption and ensured she'd be raised happy and healthy, in comparison to brian sending his son back to a shitty ghetto with an abusive mother?

>>92604046
He made a "joke" about fucking her once she turned 18.

>>92573160
yes?

>>92582093
hmmm.. the one with Peter stabbing the whale I guess?

>Iris
Hi /vp/

>>92573201
Quagmire is now the writer's pet. He's always so cynical and angry but always right

>>92573208
Just ask Marge Simpson

>>92595361
I would agree with you if it weren't for the fact that Quagmire is literally a rapist.

It seems extremely short-minded to have the out-of-character-rant-about-brian scene with the one character who's undeniably a worse person than him.

>>92573511
>There's currently an obsession with being "real" without people being able to define what it means.

The word "authentic" seems pretty popular now.

>>92599384
It's more like you're "not allowed" to despise someone for being a shitty person when you yourself are a shittier person.

>>92578732
>ATHF
Funny how Shake wasn't even the biggest asshole by like season 7. Frylock went from trying to be civil and solve problems and then blowing them up to just killing everyone
And the IASIP cast are bad but never have killed or raped anyone

>>92584913
Only us /co/ autists and 14 year olds pay attention to Family Guy. It's background noise for normies and SWJ's

>>92589391
Did Minh or Kahn ever do anything illegal? Accidentally or not?

>>92605094
>forgetting that episode they broke into Hank's house & ate out of their fridge

>>92605607
Oh ya, I only ever saw that once years ago. I can't remember what season, nearly feels like a dream

>>92604848

>The D.E.N.N.I.S System

Also Fry still frequently tried for civility, its just the threshold of where he decided a problem could be best solved by exploding it dropped. Tremendously.

>>92605677
He lies and tricks women but never rapes them

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>>92576814
To believe I used to be one of them.

>>92605607
Daletech. S8 ep16

>>92605770

Well no, he's not an actual rapist, it's just the implication.

>>92605919
meant for >>92605660

>>92605919
Thanks

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Who else do you want to see get a verbal beat down as toxic as Quagmires and who should be the one to deliver it?

Hard mode: no Mabel getting a beat down from Dipper.

>>92605094
Khan bribed the meter guy in the drought episode with all the inefficient toilets

>>92573208
>I only rape 0.1% of the time, so I'm not really a rapist

>>92605607
That was putting hillbillies in there place

>>92573110
this

i don't care what ANYONE SAYS
he RAPES women and people laugh

but if its IRL, why aren't you laughing?

Having Brian date real women was a mistake

>>92596414
>>92596583
>>92598227
>>92598896
Thank you anons

>>92605607
They also had sex in Thier house too m8

>>92605094
Kahn gave Hank a fake condo key when they went to Mexico so they both got in trouble, then illegally re-entered the US (with Hank and Dale) rather than pay the money they owed the condo owner

>>92582093
The Seashell Seahorse Party. Alot of the humour is supposed to be stupid gross out derp durr Stweie is pregnant lol shit. But that episode is truly uncomfortable to watch, because it's just Meg telling her abusers to fuck off (feels good), then she just decides to let them get away with it because the family "needs a punching bag" to stick together.

It wasn't even trying to be funny with how bad it was, it was just depressing and uncomfortable because the only was they could resolve it was to change the status quo, which they aren't capable of doing.

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>>92607790
>Hard mode: no Mabel getting a beat down from Dipper.
Why would we?
That's already been done.

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>>92595361

>>92607790
Rowley getting one from Greg