Watchmen Pt. 1

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Heading home meow!

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I used to think Rorschach's narration was so cool....not so much any more. Still enjoy the character.

bumpy bump?

>>92545436
It's called Watchmen because Adrian likes to watch men.

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>>92546009
Your good people.

I'm actually starting the movie now. I forgot how awesome the first 10-15 minutes are.

>Burglar Fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=836AE8f__BM

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Opening credits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h24D87SqaLQ

If you already have read Watchmen and are here to read once again please sonsider reading it with annotations
http://www.capnwacky.com/rj/watchmen.html
https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~sjblatt/watchmen/o.html
http://www.readingwatchmen.com/
There used to be another one but seems like it was taken down
it saddens me.

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If anyone is interested, the motion comic is found here.
>The voices are absolutely awful but I appreciate the effort that went into this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lR35MhVMss&list=PL_AYqxzHii9hPFHWM2gC5pTknX2abkiAG

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Moore and Gibbons made me fall in love with the 3x3 grid. Initially I considered it a bit much with many of the pages feeling cramped. Now I understand it done to pay homage to older works written in that form as well as offering a degree of control and precision few artists truly utilize. I'm a fan of sticking with a layout and trying my hardest to be consistent as much as possible.

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Say what you will about the movie, the trailers were fucking sick.

Teaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUjMO_k9IF8
>This trailer is amazing if only for the fact that it incorporates the Smashing Pumpkins which is one of my favorite bands.

Official Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wglmbroElU0
>Fucking awesome as well.

I actually consider Watchmen one of my favorite superhero movies. It's deeply flawed but there is nothing like that. I'm a huge fan of the Director's Cut. The Ultimate Cut is a little too long for my taste.

>>92546417
I don't think a Watchmen adaptation was ever likely to work, but I do admire the Ultimate Cut as an interesting experiment on selective yet still impressive faithfulness. Also, I really like the mix between live action and animation, not enough movies do this.

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The immediate change in posture on panel 5-6 is is a nice touch.

It's funny, someone was just asking where they could read this whole thing a few days ago and now they're probably off touching themselves.

>>92546585
>I don't think a Watchmen adaptation was ever likely to work

Agreed, but I still wish Terry Gilliam got to make his version because I love all his movies

>>92546996
Gilliam's Watchmen sounded very interesting, but it wasn't really an adaptation, now was it? More of a reinterpretation. Also, the ending reminds me of Rebirth a bit and that weirds me out

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>Human bean juice.
Haha

>>92546585
Very very very Well said. I definitely enjoy the Director's Cut as my preferred version but I cannot believe that Snyder had the initiative to adapt Tales of the Black Freighter within an already dense movie is astonishing. It's more than an artistic exercise. It's Snyder at his most self indulgent and I loved every second of it. I can only imagine what would have happened

>>92546996
Happen to know which script they were using? I've looked at the Hamm and Hayter scripts

>>92547103
>More of a reinterpretation
I'm fine with that. I'd rather see his version than someone just trying to recreate it shot for shot, that just seems like a waste. It's why I like the Del Toro Hellboy movies or Tim Burton's Batman, both area very clearly the visions of their directors.

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Dreiberg was one of my favorite parts of the movie Watchmen. I felt him, The Comedian, Rorschach, and Dr. Manhattan were all perfectly portrayed. Ozymandias was a little off but I feel he had one of the harder roles to pull off.

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I'm now kinda pissed Snyder switched Rorschach with Dreiberg.

>>92546889
Hopefully they get to see this.

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Yep, I prefer this to the scene with Dan.

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>Possibly homosexual.
Bisexual in fact.

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Epic page. Jon shrinking over panels 2-4 is gold.

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Having Manhattan have blue speech bubbles was a good touch.

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>Ha

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Laurie is probably one of the more well written female characters I've seen. Malin Akerman was a little too inexperienced an actress when she played Laurie but I still enjoyed her in the role.

>>92546004
Yeah in light of the rest of the book it really doesn't come off as true to his character to fantasize about lording over everyone else.

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I know this was a little cheesy but I loved her and Dan's chemistry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3mAz_EZamg

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Going to post all the supplemental reading along with the main story.

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And it's official, I'm going to definitely storytime the Before Watchmen comics after this. One, because I need more stories with these chracters, especially Hollis Mason. Two, the series Before Watchmen: Minutemen was one of the last works both written and drawn by Dwayne McDuffie and I feel it's by far one of his strongest.

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Carla Gugino was a stone cold MILF in the Watchmen film.

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Really interesting dynamic. Jeffery Dean Morgan was definitely a little old for how young Blake was supposed to be but I'm glad Snyder cast him

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I remember going with friends to the theater to see Watchmen and one of them walked out of the theater because it made her uncomfortable. Fucking hated that chick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI9wF38recc

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Adrian's actor did a decent job playing a retired hero/businessman. But something about his portrayal here is rubbing me the wrong way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAST139RPCo

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I thought Snyder really did this scene justice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElzyT7sWfWU

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I didn't realize they referenced the kidnapping this early on in the series. That's some serious foreplanning right there.

Jeffery Dean Morgan's Comedian is probably one of my top five comic portrayals of all time. Not quite sure what the other's would be though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y__N-JEXvyc

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For some odd reason, I find Rorschach hiding in the refrigerator hilariously stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCVP2As1Hf8

>>92546004
>Good men like my father

What did he mean by this?

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This is an extremely complicated scene that I feel was weirdly underutilized in the movie. Not by a lot, but an extra minute would have been nice.

>>92547986
>written and drawn by Dwayne McDuffie
Uh you mean Darwyn Cooke?

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>>92549237
OH SHIT! Yes, that is exactly what I mean. I do love McDuffie though. He wrote my favorite DC Animated movie "Justice League" Crisis on Two Earths".

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Snyder didn't have to include this but he did and I love him for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd7JWxRE5ao

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I'm starting to think Watchmen is my favorite Snyder movie.
1. Watchmen
2. Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition
3. 300
4. Man of Steel
5. Dawn of the Dead
6. Sucker Punch

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHYpGYTyyag

>>92548806
You got me.

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>Nova Express
Huh. Not a fan of Burroughs but I'm willing to give him another shot.

>>92547662
>dat S shield

>>92547103
>More of a reinterpretation
Well, this is probably the only way Watchmen would work as a movie.

>>92548086
Man, she was only a couple of years older than Ackerman, and it showed. The old age makeup wasn't too good

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Love this scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bG91JLh2yQ

>>92553069
>>92552954
>>92552818
>>92552718
>>92552647
>>92552588
The pacing/visual rhythm of the panels in this sequence is godly.

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>>92553335
Damn skippy.

>>92549922
MoS is my favorite, feels like his most earnest effort (other than Sucker Punch I guess, but that movie's fucking retarded), and I'm a sucker for reinterpretations that change a lot of shit around, same reason I like Batman: Earth One while so many others loathed it.

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>>92554414
Man of Steel is probably one of the most polarizing Superman movies I've ever watched in my entire life. I feel like it was a great first attempt for the DCEU but it still does al lot of things wrong that I feel a Superman movie should get right. I can understand why Snyder went with this iteration of Superman, but that doesn't mean I'm completely okay with it.

Man, I remember when I storytimed Watchmen on the eve of Rebirth. That was a trip and a half.

>>92546417
I unironically liked the movie. I always liked the sequence where Manhattan describes his origins. The music is what really makes it. and for what it's worth, a lot of the casting i thought was nice.

>>92546168
Oh, that's interesting.
I had one set of notes that I had expanded from Doug Atkinson's. It seems that it's still in a web archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20090818185004/http://www.csd.uwo.ca/faculty/andrews/AnnotatedWatchmenV2/
However, it seems that the other Annotated Watchmen site are all other branches from Doug Atkinson's original.

>>92547230
Hmm, that's funny. I thought that the character of Dreiberg was really central, and I thought that the actor was not really up to the task. Movie Dreiberg is not as sympathetic as book Dreiberg. IMHO.

>>92548499
>http://www.readingwatchmen.com/
One of my friends pointed it out to me is that in the comic he acts well more human, remember that excitement when the plan worked? Not in the film.

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As I've gotten older, I've grown to appreciate these backup pieces more and more.

>>92556869
I like individual segments of that movie, but somehow when it all gets combined (even the director's cut), it feels like Snyder somehow missed the subtext in the comic. Things might be shot for shot, but it lacks something that I can't describe right.

>>92548806
It's revealed in the notes from the Charlton Home (where Rorschach was brought up) that he had developed a fantasy that his father was a special agent for President Truman.

>>92558337
This must be one of the best single issues of any comic ever.

>>92559670
>How's the promethean?
>Still bringing light in to the world?
ha.ha. Never caught that one.

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Sorry for the delay. Thought I set thsi up to autopost

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Oh fuck...

>>92559548
Totes agree.

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This scene was fucking legit in the movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_KV9T6r-cs

>>92561057
>>92561120
These pages are ruined for me because of the Superjail edit

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This use of the nine panel grid is sexy as hell.

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Fucking amazing scene. This movie may not have been nearly as accessible as some may have wanted want, but it's a movie that unabashadly loves it's source material and does everything in its power to convey that enjoyment to the audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45V6db9CKcc

>>92561481
Man, I remember feeling like such a dumbass during this chapter. It's when I realized that Rorschach barely speaks in full sentences. Until this point, I had just been automatically filling in the gaps in his dialogue subconsciously.

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>>92561729
Dude, you just described Top-Down processing. It is an adaptive mental trick your cognition pulls off without any real effort from your part.

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>>92561729
If anything it means that some of the processes you use to comprehend language (even if presented in broken pieces) has been automated to the point of being practically unconscious. Pretty schweet trick if you ask me

>>92546004
Oh look, it's a Veidt truck. Neato.

>>92561529
word. Movie is a mess if nothing else because the source material is really dense, and condensing that into a movie was bound to cause problems. but for what it's worth, when it gets things right, it gets them fantastically right. Also Snyder with his "color killed my parents" style actually worked to the film's advantage.

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And that's going to be it for teh night. I hope everyone enjoyed! See you guys tomrrow with the 2nd half of this series =D

>>92562967
>Also Snyder with his "color killed my parents" style actually worked to the film's advantage.
This made me laugh way more than I expected to. Nicely said.

I once got into a bar fight over Watchmen. Some faggot said it sucked and I argued it didn't and then we argued over some girls and social stuff and then we fought. But it started over Watchmen. Thanks Alan Moore. I lost the fight.

>>92562088
this scene was great in the movie. Honestly, Jackie Earle Haley was great as Rorschach

Todd is a bitch and Dr manhattan dies

>>92562999
BTW this is the thing that I was talking about in
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>>92564057
=O

thank you OP

>>92558208
I'm still not going to forgive Snyder for adding his dumb slo-mo fights and scenes in places they didn't belong.
The slow motion added in the tenement fire scene, and the prison riot fight with Nite Owl and Specter aren't in the original work and didn't serve a purpose in the film. It made it feel like it really was an adaption done by a fan more taken in with the visuals than with the actual idea behind Watchmen.

>>92562967
>Also Snyder with his "color killed my parents" style actually worked to the film's advantage.
I actually disagree with this. One of the strongest aspects of Watchmen, imo, is the fantastical (and fantastic) user of color. It feels dreary cuase of the secondary color base, but the scenes themselves hardly use realistic coloring.
I don't feel like this was captured correctly in the movie.

>>92565348
Thank the Minutemen group for being awesome bros that make quality scans

>>92545448
>666 fifth avenue