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Lets talk about everything wrong with Steppenwolf being in Justice

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Lets talk about everything wrong with Steppenwolf being in Justice League and by extension, the DCEU's New Gods. Naturally its far too early to tell if he'll make a good villain or where WB will take the New God material, but consider this.
>Steppenwolf has never really mattered
>Characters like Granny Goodness, The Furies, Kalibak, or a good portion of the New Genesis characters (Big Barda, Orion) probably wont show up or at least be like their comic counterparts
>Steppenwolf design is ugly, boring, and most likely chosen because someone saw his New 52 design and thought it looked cool
And sadly theyve completely dropped the Jack Kirby style. I mean say what you will about Thor Ragnarok, which will probably be one of the weaker Marvel movies and most likely more forgettable, but you got to admit seeing Kirby's style on screen looks great. What are your thoughts on the DCEU's New Gods thus far? Are you looking forward to seeing more or expecting disappointment?
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>>92538448
No.

You'll learn to love the BBC
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>>92538448
>And sadly theyve completely dropped the Jack Kirby style.
Well Snyder has said they were all getting redesigns more in line with his universe. I'm expecting Darkseid to become Darkseed, and I'm expecting him to look like a giant cgi generic demon with bat wings and horns.
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>>92538448
>Let's engage in hyperbole about shit we know nothing about other than wild speculation.
Nah.
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What's there to talk about when we haven't even seen anything in context yet? Steppenwolf wasn't even in the theatrical cut of BvS.

Wouldn't you rather they butcher a literal who than the New Gods?
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>>92539150
I'd rather they didn't butcher anything at all, but we're well beyond that at this point.
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>>92539150
This>>92539177 really. Personally I wouldnt have pulled from the New God material this early. Speaking of, Im still trying to figure out why out of all the scenes in BvS, Steppenwolf's got cut. You could have dropped the nightmare sequence and The Flash prophecy just fine, this on the other hand seems important
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>>92539177
Nice meme, faithful reader!
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>>92538448
>Steppenwolf

All I am hearing is Step in Time
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>>92539091
Except they've already said they were all getting redesigns to fit with the universe. Jackass.
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>>92539247
The nightmare sequence/Flash prophecy is the biggest hint at Darkseid because we A. See his symbol burned into the earth and 2. See the parademons for the first time.

We also see that Flash has the ability to travel through time. This has to be established early or else it will look like an asspull.
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>>92538448
Looks like a knight from Dark Souls desu
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>>92539358
Do we really need to do Flash time travel shenanigans this early? Moreover, Steppenwolf, and by extension Justice League, is basically Darkseid setup so whats the point? That entire sequence was confusing as fuck to casuals. I had to explain that entire scene to at least 4 different people
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>>92539487
Even further proof the movie gets hate because people are too stupid to follow along and aren't smart enough to understand it.
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>>92539349
Which is a pointless statement because until we see what they go with we still know nothing but random speculation and hyperbole.
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>>92539487
It's really not that complicated. Steppenwolf is the mid level boss the League will have to fight before the final boss (Darkseid). It makes perfect sense. Supes has been mindfucked into villainy many times in comics. This is no different.
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>>92538448
We could have had Dutchess in suicide squad act as a bridge to this movie, but no, we had to get lawnmower-woman
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>>92538448
>First Justice League movie doesn't have Starro as the villain

DROPPED
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>>92539646
>first on screen meeting of Superman and Batman has them fighting
Did you expect anything more than disappointment?
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>>92538448
I'm fully expecting Snyder to fuck up the New Gods.
>>92539013
>I'm expecting Darkseid to become Darkseed
CAN'T WAIT FOR THE DCEU TO FUCK UP THE PRONUNCIATION OF 'DARKSEID' AND FOR DCEUFAGS TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE PRONUNCIATION HAS NEVER BEEN "SET IN STONE," OR SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT.

IT'S GONNA BE GREAT.
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>>92539689
Not even just fighting, but literally trying to murder eachother.
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>>92539689
I didn't expect, Anon. I hoped. That's all we can do now.
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>>92539730
I mean, what the fuck? I remember growing up and seeing Batman and Superman as best friends in the comics and cartoons, and I couldn't wait for the day that we would get the building of an onscreen Justice League in live action. And then the day came and it was a monkey's paw.

All I wanted was a fucking handshake, is that so much to ask for?
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>>92539646
>>92539689
>>92539730
>>92539798
Don't worry, DCbros. We'll get a reboot a few years down the line. I hope.
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>>92539798
All I wanted was a handshake.
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>>92539818
Still honestly waiting for a reboot of thor. With DC, I think the only way to save it really is to do a reboot, and make stand alone movies, which is a goddamn shame since I really like Cavill as supes.
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>>92539689
That's literally half of superman and batmans "first meeting" in comics though
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>>92538448
Man Marvel Shills are really fucking terrified of WW. Its done. DC won. WW, JL, and Aquaman will be hits. Crawl back to whatever hole you came from.
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>>92539869
Shhh, everything that has ever happened in comics is all sunshine and rainbows and no one is ever sad or angry.
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>>92539869
>>92539911
Yeah, remember when batman is pulling on supes hair and saying how he wasn't even human, but then saying he'd be a disappointment to his mother, but then it all stops when he says martha? Good fucking times. They fought, but they never were going for blood.
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>>92539889
Oh look, it's the company wars faggot, what took you so long?
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>>92539869
So why not use the other half?
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>>92539946
>but they never were going for blood.
Lol ok
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>>92539946
Shh, DC has to be doom and gloom, blood and grime constantly or else they'll practically be kids' movies.
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>>92539974
This entire thread is company wars.

MoS was good, BvS was bad, SS Squad was mediocre.

WW, JL, and Aquaman all look great. This thread is pure disinformation and trying to get people to rally against a movie that hasn't been released yet. Don't be such a fucking sheep.
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>>92538448
I know nothing of new gods red pill me or give me a reading guide so I can discuss
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>>92540074
Just read Jack Kirby's original New Gods series, his Mister Miracle, Forever People, maybe his Jimmy Olsen.
You can read the other stuff the came after if you like it.
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>>92540112
This but also read anything Morrison has written that features the New Gods and watch the DCAU bits with the New Gods in them.
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>>92539730
Superman wasn't trying to murder Batman. He needed Batman's help. Batman wasn't having any of that shit though.
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>>92539798
Thats the problem. All you fucking retards that grew up on the cartoons expecting them to immediately behave like that. Superman and Batman fight 90% of the time they meet for the first time.

I swear DCs characters are too popular for their own good. Everyone wants their version to be THE version. Read a fucking comic faggot.
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>>92540070
Actually I would call SS worse than BvS.
>Disinformation
This isnt some rally against Justice League, its speculation on how WB will fuck up the new gods with the evidence at hand. At the moment it doesnt look good for Fourth World but they can always prove us wrong
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>>92540311
Well I'm sorry that the version that we got was some edgelord's version, sadly now that's THE version that normies (the target market) will demand for the next decade or so.
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>the Chitauri have never really mattered

He's just an enemy for them to fight in the first movie so they can focus on the characters. Calm down.
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>>92540112
>>92540212
thanks mate
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>>92540490
Loki was still the main villain of the movie and that was the very first villain the Avengers ever fought.
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>>92540028
Shhut the fuck up.
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>>92540735
You shut up first, faggot.
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>>92538448
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT
WE CAN FIND
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I wonder how they would explain the source in the live action films.
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>>92540812
is it another space cloud?
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>>92539911
>>92540735
Same tool.
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>>92540853
No it is a wall from what I can understand
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>>92538448
>those are that figure's proportions

lol
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>>92539511
Fuck off.

Most people who saw BvS don't watch Flash, so they don't know he can time travel.

You've dropped casuals into a weird future with bug people (who are never brought up or addressed), shown them a symbol that none of them recognise and the entire scene contributes nothing to the movie.

It is entirely pointless and serves only to add 5 minutes to a bloated movie.
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So why not introduce Orion I am reading the 71 run of new gods and it seems like he is very important to the lore of the new gods.
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>>92541230
who were the bug people anyways?
Were they building the death star on geonosis?
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>>92541405
Obviously not. Hannibal built the deathstar.
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>>92541239
Orion always gets sidelined.

That's why I hate the majority of JL/New Gods stories.
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>>92541239
>>92541631
I've been on board with the DCEU so far but if Orion doesn't appear I'll drop it!
People like to ignore the New Genesis side of the New Gods. :(
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>>92541708
Exactly, with all of the pseudo-religious imagery in BvS....it'd be really dumb to not include New Genesis.

Not saying that it should be overwroute religious imagery, but there was the Archangel Michael stuff, which fits in with Orion in a few ways. Simple shit.
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>>92541758
Agreed. The DCEU's New Gods is something I'm super anxious about. I think they COULD do them justice, but I just don't know where they're going with it.
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>>92538448
So at the same time you will bitch about the joker or Lex being used too much and when a director finds a way to push a c lister you get mad.


Fuck off manchild
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kek
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>>92539646
>that gif
Seriously, Snyder is a pathetic manchildren at its early 50's
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>>92539889
Lol the company wars fag arrived
>DC won.
Won what? Money? More or less
>WW, JL, and Aquaman will be hits.
WW will be shit and JL will become memevengers tier. I have hope for Aquaman because Wan knows how to do his own shit right
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>>92541708
It's simple, if Snyder stays we are getting Orion and the new gods will be that, Gods, if Johns is in charge we are getting darkmongul and probably grail it's ironic as fuck
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>>92541708
It's simple, if Snyder stays we are getting Orion and the new gods will be that, Gods, if Johns is in charge we are getting darkmongul and probably grail it's ironic as fuck

>>92542472

How to you get that from that Gif? I see an enthusiastic director engaging with his actors
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>>92542558
>because Wan knows how to do his own shit right
No he doesn't. And it's starring Mamoa.
>>92542107
People are bitching at the awful characterizations, you mongoloid.
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>>92538448
I fucking hate that they're treating the Mother Boxes like they're sacred Infinity Stones. They're like fucking cell phones for New Gods, why the hell would Darkseid care if Earth has three?

I also hate that apparently Darkseid and his forces were defeated on Earth thousands of years ago. It makes him (and the New Gods) look like weak pussy's.
>It's a Zack the Hack doesn't understand the source material episode
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>>92543151
To be fair, Darkseid usually has zero motherboxes.
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>>92541814
>expecting Snyder to put them in colorful outlandish outfits
No way in hell they're going to look anything like the should. They'll most likely be generic look big guys with generic looking black metallic armor.
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>>92539013
>>92539723
Honestly, I've always pronounced it "dark-Seed" anyways. Dark-Side is a stupid name. I mean, I know comics are for kids but having the bad guy literally named Darkside is a little on the nose. I just can't take him seriously, especially since every time I hear his name I just think of DSP.
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>>92543442
Has to be bait
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>>92543490
Admit it, Darkside is a silly name for someone I'm suppose to be intimidated by.
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>>92543442
Please be joking.

I hope you feel the same way about Sinestro, Atrocitus, and Dr. Doom too, along with about a half dozen other supervillains with on-the-nose names.
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>>92543490
>>92543581
You underestimate DCEUfags. They'll write literal essay's on why Snyder changing it (and their looks.....and basically everything else about them) are actually genius.
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>>92543613
I hate DCEUfags so fucking much. You have no idea.
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>>92543613
Nah, I hate Snyder. Every DC movie has been shit so far. I just think Darkside is a stupid name.
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>>92543659
Not only is 'Darkseid' a great name, it's a hell of a lot better than a lot of other villains' names.
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>>92543201
No hes right, the importance Mother Boxes are being given is fucking dumb. The most they ever use them for is Boom Tubing around, and Darkseid can use one whenever. Also say Darkseid was defeated by the 3 kingdoms (how I dont fucking know), why sit on your ass that long? I doubt he would take the insult
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>>92544329
I agree that it doesn't make any sense...but god hoping that it had something to do with the First War.

That still wouldn't make sense, but as an excuse it's least resistence.
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>>92543151
>>92543201
>>92544329
Yeah, this too. That's so fucking stupid. Where do I even begin with this shit? That Mother Boxes usually aren't so important as to be MacGuffins? That forcing them into that sort of role is blatant copying from what Marvel's doing with the Infinity Stones?
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>>92543201
Yeah but Apokolips has always had technology on par with New Genesis, even before Father Boxes were introduced. They're not special.
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>>92544329
>The most they ever use them for is Boom Tubing around,
If you've never read New Gods, fucking sure, they're "JUST" for Boom Tubes.
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>>92546880
Oh yeah, and whatever else the plot demands from a god supercomputer. Dont act like their main purpose isnt for Boom Tubes
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>>92547033
Idk, I'm sure Orion appreciates his letting him not look busted like his dad
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>>92538448
Wait, it's not Glorious Godfrey?
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>>92538448
Frankly OP, you should thank god that Steppenwolf is the only Jack Kirby character Snyder will ruin.
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