How powerful would the Omnitrix be in the DC universe? What

I don't have an answer, in just waiting for this thread to flood with Benfire

>>92517376
Keep your shitty fetish off my waifu

>>92517343
Green + soft White Lantern Tier.

>>92517807
Who is your waifu in this fuckfest of combinations and fusions?

>>92517907
I don't know how good that is in comparison to everything else.

>>92517343
It can scan celestial beings if he gets close enough.

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>>92517343
>Superman touches it
>Doomsday touches it
>Darkseid touches it

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>>92517343
As powerfull as the Dial H I presume.

>>92518107
>brainiac touches the omnitrix

>>92517343
Aren't there like literally trillions of alien DNA codes and combinations inside the Omnitrix? We also know that it's "basic" self-destruct sequence as programmed by Azmuth will likely destroy the entire universe at the very least. Also some of the most powerful aliens inside that thing (Celestialsapiens, Atomix, etc, are full blown reality warpers of an absurd scale. The Omnitrix would be some insane bullshit in the Dc continuity, and Ben would be absurdly powerful as a hero, especially if we go with one of older alt-timeline appearances.

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>>92518134
>>92518107
>Fiddler touches it

>>92518178
Well what if we assume this is just Ben 10 and Alien Force Ben?

>>92518107
>Superman
You only have 10 mins. Within that time, you won't be able to adapt to the sunlight to get his powers.
>Doomsday
An alien experiment, not his own species.
>Darkseid
A literal god.

>>92518178
>The Universe literally is destroyed
>Ben makes a new one
This still bothers me.

>>92518235
>You only have 10 mins. Within that time, you won't be able to adapt to the sunlight to get his powers.
What about with a blue sun? I know that's situational but...
>An alien experiment, not his own species.
Does it matter? He would still have DNA.

>>92518235
>You only have 10 mins.

That feature can be over written with the master code.

>>92518269
Ben is God

>>92517343
A lot of Ben 10 threads recently. Loving it. I would say very powerful because a lot of DC heroes are aliens

>>92518235
>An alien experiment, not his own species.
Ben has a few aliens that are like that. Nanomech and Chromastone for example.

>>92518235
>>Darkseid
>A literal god.
Ben has Alien X, which I'm pretty sure could erase DS with a thought.

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>>92518235
nigga a fucking microchip had its DNA registered

>>92518404
>Ben has Alien X, which I'm pretty sure could erase DS with a thought.
If he could get Alien X off his lazy ass.

>>92518235
New """"""""gods""""""" are just advanced aliens

>>92517343
Without the Master Code, he's mid-tier, and situationally high-tier, depending on the alien used and the foe he's up against.

With it, he can easily be right up there with the heavy hitters. Now, if he'd stop smacking the damn thing when he'd transform, he'd be set, because it was confirmed that the reason it almost never gives him the alien he wants is because he's too damn rough with the thing, or any of its improved versions.

>>92518424
Ben mastered Alien X by the end of Omniverse

>>92518424
If Darkseid is seen as a threat to the other Celestialsapiens, the two voices might agree to help.

>>92518559
The key word here being MIGHT.

is it bad I always thought Ben 10 was an adaptation from a capeshit comic?

>>92517343
Does WB own the Ben 10 franchise?

>>92518582
>>92518559
The two voices don't need to agree on anything anymore. Ben convinced them to give him full control while they kept debating (in other words forever). Ben is literally god.

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>>92518235
>You only have 10 mins

That's the prototype Omnitrix. If we're talking about the latest version which is the OV Omnitrix then Ben has unlimited time in a single form. The Omnitrix still has limited energy but it only needs to recharge after Ben turns back to his human form or when he transforms into multiple aliens in a row, which drains the Omnitrix of it's energy faster. So yes, Ben would easily be able to adapt to a yellow sun when in Kryptonian form since he has more then enough time. It just has to be the first and only form he uses at a time to conserve the Omnitrix's energy

Not only that but the Omnitrix has a "Form Lock" option which is basically power saving mode as it keeps Ben in a single form as long as he wants without draining the Omnitrix's power after turning Form Lock off and turning back into Ben.

So theoretically, if Ben had a Kryptonian form and needed to learn how to use the powers without completely draining the Omnitrix afterwards. He can turn Form Lock mode on, train as long as he wants to and turn back with a fully charged Omnitrix.

Ben is broken as fuck is what I'm saying here.

>>92518626
It kinda is an adaption of dial h for hero

>>92518737
But OP posted the proto Omnitrix, not the OV one.

>>92518796
yea but I thought it was a comic by some third party to compete with the big two

>>92518424
Already happened. Turns out the only thing that Celestialsapiens hate more than helping Ben is other Celestialsapiens. When Ben took on the Celestialsapien champion, Bellicus and Serena gave him total control of the form. He was able to use it freely after that.

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>>92518404
>>92518661
>>92518559
Fun fact, I think it was mentioned by the creator of the show that Celestialsapiens, whilst powerful aren't Gods. we haven't even seen what a God is like in the Ben 10 cosmology. Considering some of the bullshit the alien races can get up to in the series, it would probably be absolutely terrifying.

>>92518815
If we're sticking by that, we have to use Ben as a 10-year-old. That Ben is little more than Street-level.

>>92518996
Didn't he have that as a teen? Or did he get a new one?

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>>92518029
Somewhat Op as long Ben does not behave like an Idiot or Villian manage o outsmart him before he transforms in an Alien.

>>92518967
How did Azmuth even get a Celestialsapien sample anyway? I recall an episode that showed some robot mosquitos getting samples, but CPs exist outside the universe. Did Paradox help him?

>>92518967
They might not be literal gods but they have all the powers of one. The artstyle changes in the show are canonically the effect of Celestialsapien boredom.

And, while we haven't had any literal gods, the Contemelia are pretty close. They are powerful enough to create universes.

>>92519053
It got reformatted when he was a teen, with a lot of new functions and few of the old aliens

>>92519106
So would that be considered a entirely new Omnitrix?

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>>92519070
Knowing the Fag Probably that's the reason he got Ban.

>>92519142
I mean maybe. It's technically the same one but they behave differently in many ways.

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Reasons why Ben is so OP

>Has access to forms that can warp reality, manipulate time, terrifying gods into submission with one look at their face, infinitely ingest matter and energy thanks to having a pocket dimension for a stomach, can manipulate raw, cosmic energy and manipulate atomic energy and radiation
>Omnitrix has a total of one million, two hundred and nintey-three forms, meaning that above the already OP forms Ben has unlocked he still has an infinite amount of potential in forms and abilities
>According to producers of the show Ben still has yet to meet his full potential, meaning shit like Alien X, Atomix and others is barely scratching the surface
>Is always unlocking new forms at random times
>The Omnitrix LITERALLY CANNOT LET BEN DIE IN BATTLE
>Ben is God-tier with certain forms like Diamondhead and Feedback due to his long history of practice with them
>Once used the combined power of his currently unlocked 99 alien forms to hold the fucking Big Bang in place (webcam related)
>Eventually gains the Fusinatrix in the future which allows him to fuse two aliens together, making him even more OP
>Is canonically the greatest hero of his entire universe in the future, gaining the title "Hero of Heroes" and having universe-wide recognition, both Azmuth and Paradox implies this as well

Someone screepcap this just in case someone ever needs to be explained why he's so fucking broken in future threads.

>>92519142
I recal Dwayne McDuffie saying in his old message board that the Omnitrix has thousands of different formats to fit millions of different species. It's still the same, just more fit for a teenaged Ben.

>>92517343
Yes

>>92519196
Then what is Alien Force Ben's level?

>>92519198
>Once used the combined power of his currently unlocked 99 alien forms to hold the fucking Big Bang in place (webcam related)

Ben had something around 60-70 forms at the end of Omniverse. Not 99.

>Fusinatrix
It's called the Biomnitrix

>>92519106
>>92519196
>>92519236
Keep in mind that the UAF omnitrix still isn't the OV one.

>>92518815
The proto omnitrix can overcome the ten minute limit, too. The omnitrix was originally an educational tool, not a weapon. So he didn't think you would need to be in it longer than ten minutes.

>>92518269
>Ben remakes the universe, makes his cousin's tits bigger

>>92518967
>>92519074
>>92519198
For a children's show, Ben10 is pretty dope.
Pretty disappointing CN decided to go with Ben10 Go as the next installment.

>>92519267
Oh yeah that's right. I confused the amount of aliens we knew about with the amount Ben had unlocked but my point still stands.

>>92519248
Definitely higher than age 10 Ben. 15-year-old Ben's aliens seemed much more combat-oriented than the ones he used to have, and he still got the more powerful ones like Way Big and Diamondhead. This, plus being more intelligent and mature, might put him somewhere around Wonder Woman.

>>92518461
>this meme again
They're literal gods, created by The Source and everything.

>>92518422
Wait are you telling me nanomech isn't a fucking alien? Can this fucker just turn into anything with different dna?like a bear or dog

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>>92519358
>we will never have a show about Ben and co. going on an intergalactic roadtrip
>all of those fan-made episode ideas will now go to waste because of it

>>92519409
They have to be sentient. The Omnitrix doesn't do "Beast" DNA, that's what the Nemetrix is for.

>>92519383
But could he get invited to the Justice League?

>>92519409
He only turns into Sapient beings

Bears and Dogs would probably be in the Nemetrix

>>92519409
Technically Nanomech is an alien. A semi-sentient, alien nanobot but the Omnitrix tweaked the code to turn it into a sentient, humanoid form for Ben to use.

>>92519461
What about Wildmutt? He's pretty beast-like.

We've even seen other Vulpimancers that acted more like feral monsters rather then a sentient, fully-evolved race.

>>92519466
They said that Ben kinda transform in the King of the species right? and that because he dosen't obey the queen, who then fall in love with him

>>92518967
They aren't gods, it's been established they can't naturally control mana and that in order to do so, they would have to alter the universe to change the nature of mana first, it is however, unknown if they are weak to mana, just that they cannot control it, the only thing that can hurt a celestialsapien itself it's another celestialsapien

>>92519401
>Can be beaten with sufficient force
>Still reliant on technology
""""""""""""""""""""""""gods"""""""""""""""""""""

>>92519383
So I'm guessing this means Omniverse Ben is god tier while best-possible-timeline Ben 10,000 is elder-god tier.

Omniverse Ben would definitely be Justice League material.

>>92519516
Ben transformin the sapien and main life form of the planet, in that planet Vulpimancers are the smartest and strongest species, maybe there a more stronger one, but probably even more primitive, consider most Vulpimancersare capable of strategy and hunt on couples

>>92519516
They are sentient though. Ben never had any problem turning into one. Ultimate Wildmutt can even speak. Their "language" is just so fucked up even the universal translators don't work on them.

>>92519446
>>92519461
>>92519466
Well I'll be damned

This thread reminded me how deep the Ben 10 lore got after 4 series. Sucks that the new one had to throw it all away.

>>92519446
This. Even Vulpimancers (Wildmutts) canonically have a language

So what animal would the Nemetrix have for hunting Humans. What's our natural predator?

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>>92519069

>that gif
are they ok?

>>92519855
Put my vote in for Tigers

>>92519855
Fuck i never thought of these, the show make it so easily using alien predrators that just straight up have counters to the aliens powers, but what could kill a human in sight and defeat us in every category and don't bring some Hobbes bullshit of the man is the wolf of the man, because you read the leviathan in college

>>92519855
>Nemetrix transforms you into ebola-chan

>>92519855
Niggers

>>92519855
Another, more fit human.

>>92520022
So a Neanderthal?

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>>92519855
Man!

>>92519536
Yes, the Omnitrix automatically converts the DNA specimen into the species' physical prime. Note how Ben got Kickin' Hawk out of a wimpy gangster named Liam.

>>92519855
Hippos or a mosquito.

>>92519074
>The artstyle changes in the show are canonically the effect of Celestialsapien boredom.
>Beings so powerful and nigh-unstoppable that one of the only ways they can entertain themselves is by screwing with the artstyle of the universe

Celestialsapiens are simultaneously one of the most dickish of alien races, whilst also being one of the most silly.

> the Contemelia

Aren't these the guys who effectively caused the universe to have to be restarted by Alien X because of their obsession with their "experiments"?

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>>92518737
It would sill take hours minimum to develop kryptonian powers, and he'd have to start over if he changed forms.
It's be more efficient to use Tamaranian.

>>92520155
Yes, they made the universe ending button. Though they were surprisingly chill in person.

>>92518122
Plastic Man?

>tfw Tennyson/Batson family team ups never ever

>>92520256
Plastic Man was originally a form for the Dial H kid but they ret-conned Dial H and made Plastic Man a stand alone hero.

I think they should've made King Kandy a stand alone hero too. His powers literally revolve around candy and that's it, it's awesomely stupid.

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>>92520325
>tfw no Original Teen Titans/Ben 10 crossover never ever

>>92519583
>physical avatars are overcome with sufficient force
>true forms could break multiverses
Insert "/co/ doesn't read comics" joke here.

>>92519890
Looks like they're wearing wetsuits so there could be a body of water below that they were getting ready to enter.

Maybe.

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>>92520325
>Bizarro Ben
>Sun-Eater Ben
>Endless Ben
>5th Dimension Imp Ben
>Czarnian Ben
>Sheeda Ben

Never.

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>>92520479
Benzarro is a thing.

>>92520183
>It would sill take hours minimum to develop kryptonian powers
Why the omnitrix transform Ben in the prime example of the species

>>92520543
And that's why it would take hours and not years. Kryptonians still rely on energy from and outside source for their powers.

>>92520543
People seem to forget that Ben has already been exposed to the sunblight all of his life, he doesn't needs to wait, his body is already full of sun radiation

>>92520373
This is patently false. Plastic man predates Dial H by decades. The reason he is on that picture is that Dial H occasionally spit out existing heroes instead of original ones.

>>92520443
Ben wouldn't be able to turn into Darkseid at his full form obviously, but in theory he could transform into a new god. However, he would only get the durability/strength from it, which is pretty much equal to Superman.

>>92520603
Ben is not a kryptonian, Human cells do not hold onto solar radiation the same way Kryptonians' do. That's why humans don't have superpowers.

>>92520686
Ben can and will transform, and then he will transform into ultimate Darkseid and beat the shit out of the original one
>>92520699
Ben would transform into a kryptonian who already has said powers, the onmitrix can do anything, anyways, Ben doesn't needs to transform into those shitty aliens, he can just alien X the fuck out of everything

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>>92520479
Would he even be able to absorb someone like Dream or Death? They're more anthropomorphic personifications of universal concepts than a flesh and blood species with DNA.

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Can't you just chop Ben's arm off so he can't use the Omnitrix?

>>92520686
Wouldn't Ben also have access to Darkseid's Omega Beams?

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>>92521012
The Omnitrix probably has a failsafe for that since it's encoded with Ben's DNA. It literally cannot let Ben die in battle so I imagine it would have a defense for amputation.

>>92521012
That sounds like something DC writers would do to balance him.

>>92520915
Not really, Ben dosen't the ultime form anymore, because is not what Azmuth intented, he find this exposure of DNA to endless war to evolve cruel and so does Ben, so they scrapped, Ben would just be a Darkseid's species member in his prime, not that powerful really

>Ben would transform into a kryptonian who already has said powers, the onmitrix can do anything
You're kinda wright and wrong, the omnitrix fixes aliens weakness, by giving them enchanted gadgets and clothes to use their full potential, examples are Goop UFO that allow him to control his form and Ghostfreak syntethic skin that allows him to live under the sun, the Omnitrix could give Kryptonian Ben and already charged with sun power suit or something like that

>>92521086
Okay in battle.
What if you do some Joker shit and get Ben to off himself? Does it have defense against psychic shenanigans?
Also it would depend on the omnitrix being used.

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>>92519855

>>92521137
No one is sure how the safe protocol work, but if Ben it's about to die the thing reset and transform him into every alien until one can let him live, the thing saved him from a big bang

>>92518235
I thought Upgrade and his species was just a creation of the Grey Matters?

>>92521012
Didn't the omnitrix save him from the universes destruction? I doubt it'd let you take it from him unless he willingly gives it up.

>>92518107
>Joker touches it

>>92521266
Would the watch give him the tecnology as well or he would just be a crabface alien on a green a black t-shirt?

>>92521290
>Ben tries to hang himself.
>Turns into Grey Matter.
>Tries to jump off from the noose that he ended up hanging off of.
>Turns to normal.
>Tries to shoot himself.
>Turns into Diamond Head.
I'm not certain if that's funny or tragic. I would past that image of Shazam or what'shisface shooting himself if I felt like it but I don't.

>>92521266
Keyword natural

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>>92521344
>Empty Hand touches it

>>92521389
>hanging off of.
standing on.
Standing on makes more sense with that joke.

>>92521389
We need an alternate universe where Ben is trying to kill himself but the omnitrix won't let him

>>92521382
If the watch give the other alien devices to suvirve and even armor, i think is safe to say they will give him the most basic stuff

>>92521137
The Omnitrix did this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcQNgfil7gI

The Omnitrix restored Feedback after Ben forgave himself for letting him die. The show has been hinting that the Omnitrix is sentient and actually communicates with Ben. It switches to aliens that it thinks is better for the situation, prevents Ben from dying or getting hurt and it even restored his favorite alien after forgiving himself (though some people have theorized that this scene was symbolizing the Omnitrix forgiving Ben for his mistake).

The Omnitrix would probably be able to stop Ben from killing himself by reminding him of all the good he's done or help him fight the control of an enemy's influence for the same reasons.

The Omnitrix is more then just a gadget, it's Ben's closest friend and ally.

>>92521417
Well the species name is Yautja still. They earned their nicknames.

>>92521382
>>92521494
that dragon-like alien had its whips iirc.
He would get all of the stuff I think.

>>92521496
Malware attacks sound like old modem, i love this show little details

>>92520183
they shouldve done some of these in the actual show. aliens that are basically just humans in appearance. it wouldve been cool to see if he looked completely different or like himself

>>92520915
>ultimate Darkseid
>almost instantly gains sapience and breaks out of the ultimatrix by killing ben

>>92521826
This actually happened in the show, so they put a system that prevents the forms to be more than Ben reflections

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>>92521344
>Batman touches it

>>92521826
Literally happened with GhostFreak

GhostFreak gained sapience and tried to kill Ben

>>92521940
Zs'skayr.

>>92519198
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if he had his own religion.

>>92521940
That was probably one of the coolest things in the original series.

>>92521344
>Joker touches it
>Batman rapes the omnitrix

>>92521476
It has comedic potential if you kept it to short skits.
Not going to last long term unless we have a excuse for how the Omnitrix isn't just counseling him to stop doing that.

God, Ben 10 was so fucking awesome when I was a kid. I think I remember stopping around some point in Alien Force.

>>92521344
>>92521903
It receives samples of species not personalities. There's already a human in there. Him.

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>>92521940
And the reason why Ghostfreak managed to rebel is because his species can stay sentient even from the tiniest piece of DNA and said DNA happened to come from an intergalactic warlord named Z'Skayr.

Which is why I think Omniverse Ghostfreak has those chains and shackles, to prevent his true personality from coming out again.

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>>92522062
You should consider watching Omniverse then.

Omniverse is fucking kino. It does a lot with the lore it's predecessors has crated, expands upon it as well as ret-cons some of the stupid shit like Gwen being an alien. It's something fans of both the original series and UAF can enjoy as it has all of the series' best qualities.

Plus some of the references and in-jokes they make are fucking great too. Pic related is only scratching the surface.

>>92518948
>He was able to use it freely after that.
The creators of Omniverse had to clarify that wasn't their intention. Alien X only appeared once after the trial episode, but it happened to be in an episode where the writers thought it would be more dramatic not to show Ben getting control. It didn't occur to them that people would think Ben still had control from the last episode.

They even gave Kevin a line to clarify that Ben had managed to get control of Alien X from the talking heads, but they worded it so damn poorly that it implied the opposite.

>>92522267
I forgot about Gwen's mother or grandmother being some weird mana alien.

>>92522267
>Raven and Jynx
ourguys

>>92519576
Does the Omni trix have one of those 'energy beings' in it? Would have been neat to see him using it.

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>>92522267
I think there was even more, but also there some references that never made it into the show like Laggan Bloox

>>92522075
The Omnitrix also takes and keeps the best qualities of said sample. Meaning if the Omnitrix scanned Bruce or if Bruce touched it, Ben's DNA sample in the Omnitrix would be replaced with Bruce's. Ben could literally become the goddamn Batman.

I don't know if the thought of Ben's personality steering Batman's god among men body and technology is a cool or a scary one.

Ben's harem would also increase by ten fold

>>92522353
No, they don't have DNA for some reason. It doesn't make any sense, but that's the official explanation.

>>92522384
>The Omnitrix also takes and keeps the best qualities of said sample
Not it dosen't the omnitrix transform in you in the apex of the species, Ben is already human, he can transform into a human, but he can transform into a perfect Kryptionian or Martian, actually the omnitrix can cure genetic failures in a species in the whole galaxy and if they have DNA bring them back, he can bring the green martians back

>>92522353
Verdona explained that the Omnitrix takes DNA and energy beings like Anodites don't have DNA.

But if that's the case, why is Ben capable of turning into aliens that so obviously don't have DNA like Alien X and robotic aliens like Clockwork?

I think Verdona just doesn't want Ben to get an Anodite form. but seeing as Ben has over a million forms that he unlocks in the future he either already has an Anodite form or doesn't need one at all

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>>92522459
>Ben having a Green Martian form

I can get behind this.

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Daily reminder that Ben didn't end up with best girl

>>92522535
That's not Attea

>>92522535
I'm still salty that Kai became end game instead of Attea. Fuck, I would've accepted Julie. Literally anyone is better then Kai.

>>92522483
Just because they look robotic doesn't mean they aren't organic.

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>>92522663
No one likes Kai.

Charmcaster best girl

>>92522267
This picture excludes Billy (Grim Adventures), Magikarp and Gyrados, but pretty cool nonetheless

>>92518653
Time warner owns both DC comics and Ben 10

>>92522663
Fuck I meant to say Looma.

My anger towards Kai prevents me from thinking straight.

>>92522783
I'm still surprised and kinda pissed there was no official Ben 10 x DC Comics crossover. Like a limited run of comics featuring Ben meeting DC heroes or a crossover with Young Justice or anything else in the DC animated universe.

I was dreaming of a crossover with Teen Titans since the original series.

Literally Beast Boy but less shit.

>>92522702
Clockwork was deffo robotic. Ben 23 used Upgrade on him

>>92522366
There were cameos/references to Cow & Chicken, Billy & Mandy, Magikarp and Gyrados from Pokemon, references to The Shining, The Day The Earth Stood Still, H.P. Lovecraft, Killer Klowns from Outer Space, Doctor Who, Jack Kirby-era Marvel and Gutrot's design is based on Koffing and Weezing from Pokemon.

Those are the ones I can come up with from the top of my head. There are also some neat little references in episode titles like Blukic and Driba Go to Mr. Smoothies referencing Harold and Kumar.

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>>92522783
Then I'm surprised they haven't at least tried to bring him into the DCU.

Teen Titans or something would be a good fit.

>>92523315
> Jack Kirby-era Marvel and Gutrot's design is based on Koffing and Weezing from Pokemon.
Ultimate Gravattack is weezing too(it's Derrick favourite pokemon) Ultimate Articguana is a Blastoise and i think Ben full name is Benjamin Kirby Tennyson because of Jack Kirby

>>92523527
>Benjamin Kirby Tennyson
it should be benjamin FUCKBOY tennyson

in both the nigger definition AND 4chan definition

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>>92520945
If he can do it with beings whose faces can terrify gods, and entities who regularly fuck with the presentation of the universe for shits and giggles, the Endless should be no problem. Azmuth is some bullshit.

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>>92521425
The Empty Hand and the Gentry are demons, so the Omnitrix wouldn't be able to scan them, or atleast not without dire complications. The Lucubra was a very good example of this.

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>>92522267
>expands upon it as well as ret-cons some of the stupid shit like Gwen being an alien.

Gwen's still an Anodite, she's just not willing to strip her human "skin' away entirely to become a being of pure mana that revels and parties for all eternity instead of actually doing anything. When you think on it, Anodites are kinda like the Fae in that regard.

>>92523207
Oh I don't dispute that they are robots - Maltruant was disassembled - but I believe that it is possible that the metal they are made of some kind of living tissue

>>92523824
he means they did away with saying her powers were because she was an alien and they brought magic back into it. they also did away with kevin being an alien

>>92517343
Even forgetting the overpowered shenanigans from the original series and continuations, imagine someone with the ability to turn into a martian, a kryptonian, a daxamite, a guardian, and possibly a new god. Fuck he probably can turn into Doomsday. Or fucking Mogo.

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>>92523895
Kevin was completlyreconected to be a mutant again, the whole osmosian planet was bullshit, everything was made up by the rooters, they even were going to explain who Aggregor really was, but not even the people that worked in UA liked him, so they scrap him, it was like a bussiness man that wanted power so he give money to rooter in exchange for part of Kevin's powers the horns are just side effects

>>92522267
This picture also forgets the whole way big and Ultraman comparison

>>92524011
To be fair, that started in the OS. That being said, Way Big in OV acts and fights more like Ultraman than he did in the earlier series.

>>92523968
The Rooters and the Osmosian conspiracy was fucking great, they perfectly ret-conned the whole Osmosian thing and Kevin's character development was some of the best in the whole series. The fact that he gets the scar he has in the future is a great detail too.

I was hoping they would've brought back Ragnarok too and explain what he had to do with it. I think they mentioned him but I don't remember, I'm not even sure if he actually killed Kevin's dad or not.

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>>92524093
>Way Big in OV acts and fights more like Ultraman than he did in the earlier series
but way big acted like an actual hero

somebody needs to do with with way big and gwen or kevin

>>92524119
I think DJW said somewhere that Devin Levin never existed, he was just a fabrication of Servantis.

>>92523315
To add to the tittles, they reference
>Something wicked this way comes
>World's most dangerous game
>American werewolf in London
>Oh brother where art thou
Just to name a few

>>92519358
>>92519432

What is with the direction the shows took? They even did it with Toonami, where they made Tom edgy and chibi at the same time, but they redacted that shit however long ago. I watched an episode of Teen Titans GO! and the episode was literally about memes. Why did great shows like Teen Titans and Ben 10 change from serial style to a chaotic non-linked structure with the chibi art style?

>>92522526
Keep in mind, Martians train for years to learn to use their powers.

>>92520080
>the Omnitrix automatically converts the DNA specimen into the species' physical prime.
Does that affect his human DNA? Should Ben basically be Capt. America?

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/co/ do you know what would be great

>a ben 10,000 series, that uses the same style as the original series
>has ben dealing with interplanetary treaths
>gets ben into omniverse shenanigans
>later in the series, ben could also gain access to the omnitrix that mixes different alien species to create insane stuff
>also, full mystic gwen

how would you go, if you were to make this a real series?

>>92524151
I remember the producers talking about giving Way Big a Nemetrix predator based on Godzilla and other Kaiju and I'm sad they never went through with it.

>>92524334
No just the form, Ben need to train himself, if he want to do something without the watch

>>92524379
i remember the way big predator being a virus

>>92524405
That would make sense, they said that Way Big species dosen't really have a planet they live in something like clouds of energy, but it could be fun if they make their predators just giant kaijus for the fun

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>>92524369
Ben 10,000 does gain the ability to fuse aliens in Omniverse. It's called the Biominatrix. But on the subject on Ben 10,000 there is one thing that bugs me.

>Ben unlocks all one million alien forms in the future
>He calls himself Ben 10,000

I'm guessing Ben One Million isn't as catchy but this always bothered me for some autistic reason.

>>92524334
Omnitrix-enhanced human DNA would basically just be Batman levels of peak human perfection. Peak strength, intelligence, pain tolerance etc.

>>92524504
yeah i agree with you but i was disappointed when i looked it up and found out it was supposed to be a virus

>>92524623
At least it one those war of the worlds references

>>92520067
>>92520022
Fuck you Hobbes

>>92521496
It also would turn into an alien that Ben did not want, regardless of whether or not it's more suited for the situation, because Ben never thought to be gentle with it and not slap the dial every time he wanted to transform.

That watch is a petty little shit when it wants to be.

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>>92521496
>>92525190
>Omnitrix-Tan will never be canon
>Omnitrix-Tan won't slap Ben as revenge for getting slapped on too hard all these years
>Ben will never transform by kissing Omnitrix-Tan
>Omnitrix-Tan will never sing

>>92520443
Question, are they aware of their true forms?

>>92525445
you know who unice is right?

>>92517343
As a general rule, anything with the prefix Omni it's pretty overpowered.

>>92524522
>Ben One Million
>not Ben Ten-Hundred-Thousand

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>>92522020
He probably does. Ben saved the entire universe a handful of times so there are definitely legends about him and some developing races probably think he's some kind of god.

Ben canonically has his own Saban Power Rangers-esque TV show based on his exploits. That version of Ben is probably what most of the universe thinks he is.

So what would Batman's kill file for Ben look like?

>>92521320
They are.

The watch could scan pretty much anything. He has some aliens I'm pretty sure don't even have DNA.

>>92524011
>>92524093
>>92524151
he even has a japanese accent in OV

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>>92526774
The Omnitrix protects Ben from virtually anything. Throw him into the Phantom Zone? The Omnitrix will get him out, amputate the hand with the Omnitrix on it? The Omnitrix will re-attach itself to Ben's wrist and heal him, destroy the Omnitrix? The entire universe is destroyed from the energy backlash.

The only way Batman or anyone for that matter could beat Ben is to either get information from Azmuth, permanently trap Ben in a useless form like Walkatrout or The Worst or somehow convince or trick Ben into taking it off since he knows the code to detach it from his wrist.

However, with that said it's possible that if Ben goes evil the Omnitrix will reject him since he's using it for something other then it's original purpose.

I put way too much thought into this

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>>92526976
>However, with that said it's possible that if Ben goes evil the Omnitrix will reject him since he's using it for something other then it's original purpose.
Nah there's way too many evil Bens running around out there

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>>92526998
Maybe those Omnitrixes are evil too?

I like the idea of an Omnitrix being a reflection of the person that is in possession of it.

>Mad Omnitrix is a hardcore, ruthless biker chick
>Ben 23 Omnitrix is a rich popular girl stereotype
>Negative Ben Omnitrix is a damaged emo chick

>>92519855
No joke, the answer is leopards.

>>92519855
Bacteria.

>>92519198
Not true.

Ben's alien forms are nowhere near that powerful. His "time manipulation" power mostly consists of showing images of the past or shooting aging rays, not time freezing or time travel or any of the other things that make time magic an instant win. His "manipulating atomic energy" is powerful compared to his other forms but it doesn't mean he can create stars or nuclear explosions; it's not that strong. Toepick is scary if you look at its face, but that's the form's only power. Only Alien X is anywhere near as strong as is implied, and it has severe limitations on how it's used so Ben only switches to the form when absolutely necessary.

The Omnitrix has over a million forms. Ben hasn't unlocked most of them, and we don't know if any of them are stronger than the forms he already has.

The Omnitrix does NOT make the wearer immune to death. That was only randomly speculated in one episode, and it's contradicted by information in other episodes, like the one where Ben dies onscreen. Multiple alternate versions of Ben have also died.

>>92519981
there isnt something, its why we're the top of the food chain. I mean yeah I guess you could do a Bear or an Elephant, without tools of any kind we're kind of fucked against one.

So can anyone explains why the fuck Asmuth as two drastically different voices and personalities in anything regarding the OS to any other version of Ben 10?

>>92520543
>the omnitrix transform Ben in the prime example of the species
When was this ever said in the series? The watch's transformation is based around the wearer's physical appearance and the type of DNA extracted. I don't recall it ever being about the best of each species.

>>92527257
>His "time manipulation" power mostly consists of showing images of the past or shooting aging rays

Wrong. Clockwork showed time manipulating powers on multiple occasions, he slowed down time in Bengeance is Mine and he straight up time traveled multiple times.

Atomix's control over atomic energy and radiation should be a clear indication of how strong he is and it's been confirmed that Atomix is one of Ben's most powerful forms.

It's also been confirmed by show producers that Toepick can induce sickness, fear and even INSANITY to anything sentient, even gods. He's basically a elder god abomination. And I don't know what limitations your refering to, Alien X recreated an exact replica of the universe and Ben even gained full control over Alien X near the end of Omniverse. Alien X's only weakness was gone by the end of the series.

>Ben hasn't unlocked most of them
True, he does in the future when he gets master control and all that but the fact that he has god-like forms like Alien X and Clockwork shows that Ben hasn't even scratched the surface of what he's capable of. The implication alone is enough but it's been implied many times that Ben has barley scratched the surface of the power the Omnitrix provides.

>like the one where Ben dies onscreen
If your referring to his death in Vengeance of Vilgax may I remind you that the Omnitrix literally brought Ben back to life by transforming him into Diamondhead. Theirs that and the time The Omnitrix brought Feedback back to defeat Malware after he was absorbed by him. Two separate occasions where the Omnitrix saved Ben from death and near death respectively.

Just admit Ben is OP anon. We all have.

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>>92521012
>Can't you just chop Ben's arm off so he can't use the Omnitrix?
Yes. It even happened.

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>>92527327
Celestialsapiens fuck with the universe when they're bored.

The fact that Omniverse had an explanation to why the art style looks different in every show is fucking amazing. They didn't have to do that but they did.

>>92527460
that's both genius, hilarious and retarded.

>>92527529
Don't you mean, simultaneously?

>>92527433
What about that time Charmcaster killed him, Kevin and Gwen?

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>>92517343
>How powerful would the Omnitrix be in the DC universe?

>>92527787
When did that happen?

>>92518107
>Mongul touches it

>>92527257
>full control
He only had full control for that one fight.
He specifically says "a minute."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1zHalthf30
There is literally only one other episode that makes it seem like he still has control but even the creators of the episode say it was poorly written for dramatic effect.

>>92519981
Hippos.
No doubt.

>>92527414
It's definitely not the case.
The species of AlienX develop their multiple personalities over time because of infinite power and living forever.
The prime AlienX would either not have multiple personalities or would be single minded in purpose like the Gladiator.

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>>92518107
>parasite touches it

>>92527441
Technically, it wasn't cut off. Just sent into a different dimension. Ben still had full control of it

>>92527787
If you're talking about that AF episode with the alternate future, were they don't hack the Omnitrix that was the AF Omnitrix or proto, the safe protocol everyone talks about is in the final Omnitrix the one in omniverse

>>92527787
That was the result of Time fuckery by Gwen. Even then, the fight between Charmcastervand Ben happened offscreen. It is never confirmed that he died. Also worth noting that that Ben was using the old omnitrix, not the new one.

>>92521344
>Bugs bunny touches it

>>92528412
The omnitrix doesn't change the personalities of species. Rath is a violent curmudgeon, Brainstorm is an insufferable know-it-all, etc. Why would Alien X be unaffected? We saw in the Universe v. Tennyson that even a "perfectly balanced" Celestialsapien is not unbeatable, so why would the Omnitrix make it so?

Again, I point you to the exanple of Liam. A total wimp. Yet, when Ben scanned him, Liam didn't become Ben's form. He got Kickin' Hawk, a larger, stronger form of the same species, capable of manhandling Liam in a fight.

>>92522043
What is this meme ?

>>92527960
It was when Charmcaster sacrificed the souls of everyone in Ledgerdomain to resurrect her father. Ben, Gwen and Kevin were there, so they were actually lying dead onscreen for a few minutes before the guy refused the deal and sacrificed his life to bring everyone else back. And it's not just a case of Ben not having a form that could have survived; we know that Ghostfreak doesn't have "life force" in the traditional sense and is immune to mana draining, so the fail-safe could have saved him if it existed.

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>>92529330
If you're going to write it off because "maybe it's only the full version that does that", then what about the time that Vilgax destroyed every version of Ben in the multiverse with a Chronosapien time bomb? The only survivor was the one who didn't have an Omnitrix.

>>92529794
The Chronosapien Time Bomb destroys multiple entire timelines, preventing Ben 10 from ever having existed in the first place. Even the Omnitrix can't really defend against that.

>>92524369
It would, but Its unlikely

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>>92519198
But can he defeat Aku?

>>92529958
It can, and it has. Ben survived the end of time by transforming into Alien X while the universe was dissolving around him. It didn't just happen, though; he had to select the form deliberately.

>>92518122
Isnt this what ben 10 is actually based on?

>>92519446
Son of a bitch. I never realized that

>>92519852
IT fucked me up when ultimate Wild Mutt started talking and he was about to kill that one camo alien

>>92522341
Grandmother.

>>92521116
>Ben dosen't the ultime form anymore, because is not what Azmuth intented,
That reminds me. What happened to the ultimates that left the ultimatrix?
Could Ben get those forms back if his Omnitrix scanned them?

>>92530873
That's not really the end of time though is it but rather one universe.

>>92531073
Seems Ultimate Humungousaur was killed by Khyber.

>>92531073
They never bring them back, but i think they said the Omnitrix would not take the Ultimates DNA sampla because their base form is already there, the Omnitrix would think they're some kind of mutation

>>92529341
>ZA WARDO

>>92523895
Annodites were always magic, though. They're literally made out of magic.

>>92529341
Now I feel like playing Battride War

>>92530873
But that's destroying the universe from that point on. The time bomb destroys every instance specified in this case a timeline with a Ben with an Omnitrix. So those timelines are completely gone from beginning to end.

>>92528520
>parasite touches it
>absorbs the power of all the aliens
>omnitrix absorbs the power to absorb the power of all the aliens
>nothing happens