http://www.cbr.com/ducktales-lin-ma nuel-miranda/ >Gizmo

/pol/ BTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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This fucking world

>racebending a duck
>caring
If it makes you feel any better, the real SJW types actually hate Miranda because he made a musical that "glorifies" slave owners.

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Eh.

He was always a guy trying to bury his whitetrash roots.

Now he's trying to bury his barrio roots.

>>92509741
i was excited for the reboot until this shit

>>92509741
>racebending a fucking duck
what's the point?

>make brown duck
>don't give it elements of an actual brown duck

this is the thing that bugs me more

>>92509741
I thought Gyro was Gizmo duck. Or was Gyro the one who flew the plane?

>>92509959
>get a load of this guy

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>>92509959
wrong on both counts

I'm not gonna pretend to be outraged or offended or anything but it feels kind of unnecessary

in the sense that we're living in the future, why not just make a totally new character that fits whatever profile and just put them in the Gizmoduck suit/role, rather than I guess correcting the original concept for being too white

not like DuckTales was some deep lore shit; don't have to use the exact same character when that character was made up for the show in the first place

>>92509741
who even cares? wasn't he pretty much all of the time in the suit?
or was that just in Darkwing Duck

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>>92509911
>Because the duck is brown now

Design wise, they problably did this because Donald Duck characters are difficult to differ from each other and have limited variations

>>92509937
I like how they even had to change the name, because how else would you know we changed his race? He's still a duck!

>>92509741
Sounds like fun.

>>92509895
Oh shit, I hope he does have an overbearing Latina mother.

>>92510017
>Because the duck is brown now
i never said anything like that nor was i implying it. i haven't seen a single episode of the original ducktales, it's just the fact that lin of all people was casted

>>92510011
He was only Gizmoduck all the time in Darkwing. In Duck Tales he was often out of the suit as Fenton Crackshell.

>>92510037
That would be kind of cool.

I want a FUCKING premiere date already

why won't they tell us

>>92509888
Do they not know that Hamilton became an abolitionist? Must be hard not having read the actual fucking source material the dumb musical was based on.

>>92510060

What's wrong with him? I'm not a big musical guy, but Hamilton seemed fine. Not a fan of Hip-hop?

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at least they kept the established trait of Fenton having beautiful hair

>race bending a duck

That's pretty funny.

But, hey, Gizmoduck!

>>92510097
it's coming out sometime in august. how do i know? the comic coming out "in anticipation" of the series releases late july. and mid july is d23 where they'll have a ducktales panel with an exclusive sneak peak.

>>92510116
it just feels like they hired him because "oh, the moana guy!" and didn't put any effort in actual casting. considering they have him on board to score future movies, yeahhh it just seems like a cheap easy solution for them

>>92509741

>A Mexican accountant

Unless he's helping Scrooge launder drug money for the cartels, there's really no such thing.

>>92509741
>tfw when in latin dub he kept his english name but he was duck-apparatus
>Cyro is ciro "crazypear"

we don't give a shit about race but i hope those cool names remain.

>>92509741
You have to go QUACK

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I'm just amused that Disney have done the same thing again, but in reverse.

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>>92509741
So, rather than remake a cartoon with Jose Carioca and Panchito Pistoles. About Donald's adventures through South American countries. We'll paint a duck slightly brown and give him a a Mexican surname.

Does no one find it kind of racist EVER that the solution for lack of diversity is to always make the push for some character that either was or represented as white into becoming a minority instead of creating projects for characters that were already minorities?

>Oh you see, anon, an actual spic with from an actual spic back ground would never sell. What you need is, basically a white character with the average white story but diverse last name.

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Justice Ducks spinoff when?

>>92510138
>implying Scrooge would not do something like that

>>92510138
>Unless he's helping Scrooge launder drug money for the cartels, there's really no such thing.

Drug money is the only source of income Mexico has.

If Mexicans were even remotely intelligent with money, their country wouldn't be a third world hell hole. The REAL Scrooge McDuck would never hire a Mexican to manage his money.

>>92510244
you have to go back
>>>/pol/

>>92510137
>says "summer"
>means "the very end of summer"
Just put me in the ground.

>>92510276
Go back to themarysue

>>92509741

So is Fenton an illegal or a "dreamer"?

Because it would make sense that Scrooge would hire illegal labor to run his businesses; the only way he can get away with the humorously low wages he always pays everyone in the comics (10 cents an hour).

So much for "doing it square", Unca Scrooge.

>>92510329
this reminds me, one of my favourite lines from the comics "i'm not paying you starvation wages for nothing!"

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you know what always 'ducked' me
there are no black ducks in the disney-verse

>>92510037
>Oh shit, I hope he does have an overbearing Latina mother.

Best case scenario, La Chancla included.

How the fuck can you racebend a duck?

It's not even a human being you utterdipshit.

>>92510329
>the only way he can get away with the humorously low wages he always pays everyone in the comics (10 cents an hour).

Actually this brings up a good question, do you think they'll keep that in this new show?

>>92510037
>Oh shit, I hope he does have an overbearing Latina mother.

That would actually make a lot of sense

>>92510388
That's cause then WB would sue.

>>92509741
He's not a Barks character so who gives a shit.

What attracted all the unique characters and story arcs to the Donald Duck character?

>>92510187
The problem is that a lot of the old minority characters are seen as too stereotypical, making a white character into a minority sends the message that minorities have the same diversity of traits that white people have.

>>92509741
thank god for MBMBaM

>>92509741
>racebending a fucking duck

Do ducks even have races? From what I gather, what we'd identify as races in ducks can actually not interbreed...

>>92510329
There are other sorts of hispanics, you know. Hell, there are mexican families in Texas and California who were there before anglo-american settlers came.

>>92510244
>The REAL Scrooge McDuck would never hire a Mexican to manage his money.

Who says he's Mexican? I mean, Miranda's of Puerto Rican descent.

where's my asian ducks?
Disney comfirmed for racist

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>>92510764
What we need now, more than anything else, is realism in our cartoon ducks.

>>92510138

>a brilliant young intern working for Scrooge McDuck’s personal mad scientist, Gyro Gearloose.

Sounds like he'll be a scientist or engineer this time.

I can overlook this if the character is still a wimpy momma's boy with a mediocre life and not some mouthpiece for identity politics.

>>92510713
Carl Barks' comics in the 40's and 50's. He created a lot of the characters there that showed up in DuckTales decades later. Scrooge, Beagle Boys, Magica, Gyro, Glittering Goldie, Flintheart Glomgold and some others. He didn't create Launchpad or Fenton or Bubba or Webby, though.

>>92509937
Maybe it was less "we need to make one of the characters into a minority" and more "we want to cast Lin Manuel-Miranda as someone, quick, let's make Gizmoduck hispanic".

>>92510854
Guess they could still keep his autistic instant counting ability around, maybe

>>92510872
There was another donald duck looking cartoon character called Duckula. I always wondered why ducks were such a go-to character for more gritty(?) media like horror and adventure. I don't know how else to describe it, but the best shit seems to involve ducks.

The Carl Barks comics are rad as hell, so that's probably why.

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>>92510959
Duckula's British.

>>92511004
Maybe ducks/birds make interesting characters. Or it was all just built on the pun and the whole thing is a coincidence.

>>92509741
Fenton and Launchpad were both used as stand-ins for Donald in the original DT if you ask me. Not just the stuff they adapted from Barks that had Donald and they needed a literal stand-in; Fenton in retrospect has some of comic-Donald's personality traits. None of Donald's temper, but as a fall guy, and as someone always trying to make it on top but never getting there, who pulls some hair-brained schemes in the process. His original design even *looks* kinda like Donald's, and if the latter is gonna play a bigger role in this new show, they need a way to differentiate Fenton.

It's not that bad of a change, fucking seriously.

>>92510784
>Hell, there are mexican families in Texas and California who were there before anglo-american settlers came.
Not for long, snowflake. #MAGA

>>92510854

Ah.

I guess from a storytelling POV it makes more sense to have Fenton hanging around the lab as an assistance in order to get the Gizmoduck suit, as opposed to being an unrelated character who happens to walk in.

>>92509959
I know you have done been responded to twice but you need a third bitch slap for your incompetence.

>>92510739
Mexican's fucking love Speedy Gonzales.

>>92511723
They also love Top Cat for some reason.

>>92509741
>all these curves
>no edges
looks like absolute shit

the only issue I see is that by definitively aligning hispanic with brown feathers, doesn't it just make all the other ducks "white" (when you previously barely considered it)

i hope they just make a bunch of ducks in random colors and don't always give them obvious racial associations

>>92511723
Well it's not mexicans making the decisions.

>>92511903
Well they seem to be broadening the species of birds used as well, so they'll probably use a whole array of looks for characters without creating any clear patterns.

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Can't wait for Webby to be Mabel 2.0!

>>92511205
You have been saying this November

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>>92509741

>Reminder that the earliest promotions for the DuckTales reboot described Magica as an "LGBTQ icon".

If you ever thought this was going to be anything other than agenda-pushing SJW shit, you were a fool.

>"how can you make a duck a particular ethnicity"
>no one has any problem with Scrooge being Scottish or Glomgold being a Boer

just admit you hate it when they make characters something other than white

>>92511903

well, I mean, McDuck is scottish, so

For whatever reason, I can't read comics Donald's voice in my head with his iconic voice from the cartoons. Does anyone else have this problem?

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>>92512383
>Reminder that the earliest promotions for the DuckTales reboot described Magica as an "LGBTQ icon".

Why didn't they just use a duck species that's native to South America or Spain?

>>92510193
Honestly it's quite possible for them to show up at some point, someone working on the show mentioned in an interview that the higher ups are letting them use anything from the Disney Afternoon block that they want besides Rescue Rangers(as that has a movie in development)

>>92511205
What does a Thespesia grandiflora have to do with anything?
>>92512383
>Magica could either be Lady Gaga meets The Wicked Witch of the West, or a PG-rated lesbian
Either one's fine by me
>>92512716
I can do it, but it takes a bit of effort.

>>92512793
Completely off-topic, but you said you emailed Milton Knight about Robotnik's design the other week. What's his email address?

>>92512843
[email protected]

>>92510193
I don't think that fish is a duck

>>92512383
>>Reminder that the earliest promotions for the DuckTales reboot described Magica as an "LGBTQ icon".

Wasn't that just Entertainment Weekly being a buncha faggots and not actually confirmed for her characterization in the reboot?

>>92512873
Thanks

>>92510801
Peking Ducks are all over the place, what are you talking about

I have simple tastes. Long as his transformation remains dope I'm cool.

>>92512383
Disney and the showrunners never called her that, that was the websites repeating something they heard from other websites.

>>92512383
The only way I would be fine with this is if Tim Curry was able to voice her.

>>92512383
>described Magica as an "LGBTQ icon".

WTF when has Magica EVER been any of that shit?

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>>92509741
AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>92513331

When has Gizmoduck ever been Mexican?

All your favorite childhood characters are coming back, but they're all either brown or gay now.

>>92509888
Hamilton wasn't a slave owner. And his pal Laurens was pretty outspoken about anti-slave trade. I know SJW sometimes lack logic but the only prominent characters that owned slaves in that musical are Washington, Jefferson. Idk about Burr and Madison but Jefferson was portrayed kinda villainously throughout the musical.

>>92512882
She actually comments on this every time someone calls them the Justice Ducks. Then Stegmutt says "I used to been!"

>>92513437

Why was a character named SteggMUTT originally a duck?

>>92513336
Is the guy on the right Winston from Kilimanjaro Safari?

>>92513390
If anything a bit too villainously, but I guess he is the heavy from Hamilton's perspective.

Hamilton was no angel either but the John Adams miniseries covers that pretty well. good watch, too.

>>92513456
He's a duck, but was adopted and raised by an anthropomorphic dog family (Like Goofy or the Beagle Boys)

>>92509895
>>92509741
>>92509959
W-what? I thought that Gyzmoduck was full megaman or Robocop (with no past life or secret identity, just machine)

Boooo

>>92510193
Bring back the mighty ducks cartoon

>>92513614
"Blathering Blatherskite"

>>92513614
>Didn't watch the feature length "Super Ducktales" on The Magical World of Disney in 1989
Fucking newfags.

>>92513500
It's just like how Hamilton is portrayed as a villain in stories that focus on Jefferson, the Federalist/Anti-Federalist conflict was their main preoccupation after the revolution was over, so they naturally became each other's rivals.

>>92512383
No, that was legitimately Entertainment Weekly, not Disney or any related source to DuckTales, being a bunch of idiots

>>92513614
>W-what? I thought that Gyzmoduck was full megaman or Robocop
What the fuck? Did you only watch Darkwing Duck?

>>92513863
Even then he would know better because Gosalyn wore the suit.

>>92509741
>latino duck=slightly brown
oh come on
Why not make him brown with a green head or something, or make Webby brown instead cause she's female? Or maybe make him a parrot or a rooster to make things more interesting.

>>92509741
So did they make him hispanic because how big and beloved Gizmoduck is in latin america?

>>92511723
They also Love panchito Pistolas so much that the soldiers paint him on the airplanes

>>92514167
But Argentinians are """""""""""""""""white"""""""""""""""""

>>92510562
>That's cause then WB would sue.
Well Disney suing is the reason why Howard uses pants.

>>92514265
That dosen't have anything to do with what i say, Gizmoduck is just a beloved cartoon in latin america, like Ducktales or PPG, i just told my cousin that Gizmoduck was going to be back on the show and he was happy and said he hopes they bring his original voice actor in latin america

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>>92514256
In all fairness, who doesn't love Panchito Pistolas?

>>92514360
I think he and Jose are relatively unknown in Europe. Jose sometimes, very rarely appears in comics or cartoons, but no one knows Panchito. People read those comics for Donald and Scrooge.

>>92514167
I'm pretty sure it's because they got Lin Manuel Miranda to VA that they made the change.

>>92514256

>Mexican Air Force

Don't make me laugh.

Let's be fair, a lot of you would complain if they introduced Huey's new friend Pablo the Duck too.

Making him a brown duck is the only goofy pandering here imho.

>>92514743
We'll see when the yearly allowance the US gives to Mexico dries up to pay for a wall between them and us.

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>>92509741
Hispanic Gizmo Duck
Hispanic Ghost Rider

Are we on our way to the greatest crossover ever?

>>92509951
Yeah, it really comes across as a lazy last minute pallet swap.

>>92509741
Actual hispanics don't use fucking dashes between their last names.

I guess I like the redesign

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>>92514084
A condor would be better.

>>92513614

Holy shit are you a fucking idiot.

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>>92514889
>Hispanic Gizmo Duck

He'd be black and have a skateboard instead of a unicycle.

>>92509741
You guys are missing the point. They made him Hispanic because he is literally a BEAN COUNTER. That's his occupation, as well as his special talent.

They made the bean counter a beaner.

>>92514677
The old show was pro-capitalist, made fun of fat and dumb people, and didn't shy from showing ethnic differences. No way the new show will have any of that.

>>92515907
>They made the bean counter a beaner.

just realized: BEAN countER.

This is actually fucking smart. They put a minority with a super power in the show, and they did it in a way that it is covertly racist. Hilarious.

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>>92515907
>>92515968
Well shit

>>92509741
fuck you we need more brown ducks in cartoons
name one, ONE none white duck that is well known

>>92512487
yes this one is obvious, but not necessarily the other characters...the point was that you could just keep white feathers and still diversify the names/accents, etc. When you make it brown now you are forced to make the related assumptions/associations

>>92515998
>name one, ONE none white duck that is well known
Daffy Duck, Duckula, Duckman

>burgers' outrage
Let's be honest, Duck Tales was not a good cartoon and was full of stupid ideas, including Gizmoduck.
The Barks stories and those of his followers (especially in Yurop) are the only Disney tales worth caring about once you're an adult who's not blinded by nostalgia over mediocre cartoons

>>92515998
The duck from duck hunt.

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>>92515998
>name one, ONE none white duck that is well known

fucking really.

>>92516053
>blatant colored duck racism
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>>92516091
>>92516039
>Daffy Duck
he's a martian undercover agent and we all know it
how else do you explain how his bill comes off so easily?

>>92509741

Good. Best thing they've done to the character

>>92514333
Funny looking back, now that Disney owns both Donald and Howard.

>>92512755
This is the first thing in this thread that has me legitimately excited, if they only capitalize on that fact.

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>>92510037
>when he misbehaves she pops a webbed foot off like Daffy's bill and throws it at his head

>>92509741
At first I was uncertain about the new suit, but thinking about it this is actually great fodder for parodying the modern superhero craze.

That and it reminds me of /tg/ threads trying to figure out how Space Marines are proportioned so they can fit in their armor as depicted. Good times.

>>92513627
no one cared about that

>>92511810

Nigga if you don't like Top Cat you can get out my face.

>>92513863
>What the fuck? Did you only watch Darkwing Duck?

Fenton appeared on Darkwing Duck, he slept on Drake and Launchpad's couch in one ep or some shit.

Also fuck the SJW wank the only thing I want to know is if it's possible we'll get some kind of Darkwing Duck cameo, ref, or in-joke. That's it.

>>92519824
>I want to know is if it's possible we'll get some kind of Darkwing Duck cameo, ref, or in-joke. That's it.

I think we'll get a backdoor pilot for Darkwing.

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>>92519824

>>92519683
I cared...

i told you all this would be SJW propaganda but you didn't listen to me. you all dismissed me because i had no source, shut me out for spouting bullshit. but soon, you'll see.. oh you'll see how right i was

>>92512458
Weren't they always like that?

>>92512458
Well, Glomgold wasn't a Boer in the cartoon. They made him a Scot like Scrooge.

>>92509741
Miranda sold his soul to Disney. He'll be working for them for the rest of his life

>>92522377
You're the most pathetic kind of person.

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>>92512383
If Magica is anything but June Foray (or a sound alike) as a gloriously evil sorceress, I'm out.

>>92509888
they love him because he turned the founding fathers into niggers and propagates the "Hamilton was mixed WE WUZ FOUNDING FATHERS" shit

>>92509741
>>92510187

Actually this is what pisses me off the most. Its not that there can't be minorities in a cartoon about birds and dog people, its more that the other minorities are straight up DIFFERENT FUCKING BIRDS.

I.E. parrots and and the like, birds that are actually native to or more significant in their countries of origin.

It's not that we can't have a latino bird, it's that per the canon you can't just fucking change the name of a duck and turn it brown in order to get "muh diversity."