Why is pic related so edgy? I couldn't even get through

>>92507735
It's Warren Ellis. But despite the edgyness, it's still a solid comic with satirical (borderline prophetic) undertones.

>>92507735
Because you don't know the definiton of edgy. Go, read some Crossed and cry some more.

>>92508044
>tfw live in the timeline where the Smiler won because R63 Beast couldn't manage a campaign to save her life

>>92508066
You idiot, that's where we split from Transmet. We got The Beast and avoided The Smiler.

>>92508058
Transmetropolibabby is mad, eh?

It's OK to not like things anon. But you read a cyberpunk book and discovered it had punk in it, and took you 6 trades worth to recognize it?

>>92508093
The beast was seeking re-election. Check again in 4 years.

>>92509226
10/10. Would pullitzer again.

>>92507735
am I the only one who hated the president election plot? I mean you have this over the top gonzo cyber punk city were the wildest social satyre can be shown and I loved it but instead of exploring its insanity we are stuck with "muah evil corrupt politic." It was just so generic and out of place for a wolrd where aliens sold their DNA because they are broken as fuck

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>>92509226
*lol*

It's okay, Patrick Stewart, you don't need to practice for the role, Ellis already promised you could play Spider Jerusalem if it ever is made.

>>92507735

I was hooked for the first few issues.

Then I just stopped once that president focus kicked in. Hated it.

>>92507735
/co/ as a whole is just a den of shit at this point. Everything is either edgy or cute and "le comfy" to modern nu/co/

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>>92510631
I come to /co/ to shitpost. If I wanted /co/'s opinion on anything, I'd kill myself for needing external validation of my tastes in reading material.

pic=/co/

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Transmetropolitan was considered for the longest time the best shit ever, old /co/ worshipped it's cock.

I think, right now, considering the political climate and the type of person that browses 4chan and /co/, it's simply not relevant to the board anymore.
I don't think nu-/co/ is compatible with Transmetropolitan at all anymore.
You guys are simply not the target audience for it at this point.

>>92509361
OP here, I love cyberpunk, for example GitS or Deus Ex. I don't dislike Transmetropolitan because it's cyberpunk, but because it's edgy. You know what I mean. The stuff that Spider Jerusalem is saying, for example. It's so cringy and sometimes reminiscent of a teen rebel (especially the "woah bro fuck the government" type).
>>92508066
>>92508093
What the fuck is this, am I on fucking facebook? Get out with these kinds of comments, you fucking retards.

>>92512367
>It's so cringy and sometimes reminiscent of a teen rebel (especially the "woah bro fuck the government" type).
>What the fuck is this, am I on fucking facebook?

See what i mean?
It just can't cater to the current "alt" crowd, mostly because it wasn't a thing back then.

>>92509953
I actually liked the president election plot, even if it's generic. The other kind of format the comic had (one issue arcs) didn't fit the stories most of the time. Also I dislike every single issue in which it's only Spider narrating all throughout, with a "le deep" conclusion on the last page.

>>92512397
What are you talking about? Do you think I'm alt right or something?

>>92512401
Only 1 issue story I liked was the one about cryogenics. The rest I couldn't be bothered to remember.

>>92512367
>It's so cringy and sometimes reminiscent of a teen rebel

t. 21 year old who thinks he's an adult now

>>92512438
Is this bait or are you really this underage?

>>92512452
The cryogenics one was good, I agree, and I like how she appeared near the end with that set of pictures for Spider.

>>92512360
It might be because Brits are the largest fags in existence. I mean nationalist. They will be bigger fags than Americans on America or the Polish on The Witcher.

What OP is not telling you: he thinks everything except MLP is too "edgy"

>>92512553
Did you even read the comic, you cretin?

>>92512467
t. Underage American
Fuck off fatty.

>>92512594
lol wow the other dude called you out.

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>>92512553
>>92508058
>>92510631
>pic related
>not edgy
Can't make this shit up

>>92512585
>>92512619
I really fucking hate millennials.

>>92512649
Great argument, retard

While I do like Transmetropolitan I don't agree with one point: That humans always be humans.

Seeing all this transhuman technology I could imagine that atleast one subculture would choose to enhance themselves so far that their thought processes are so utterly diferent from a baseline human. For example a group trying to attain autosentience.

>>92512669
Wasn't an argument, sunshine, was an observation.

>>92512522
>Nationalism
>In any way, shape or form bad.


Nope

>>92512585
>>92512594
>>92512619
>>92512669
>>92512788
Oh boy, here comes the millenials brigade.

>>92512806
Who do you think made the thread.

>>92512806
>Being Nationalist
>Millenial

nice b8

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>>92512669
>Still thinking you're entitled to "arguments" when instead people can just laugh at you for being irrationally angry at a 20 year old comic that literally everyone who's not a /tv/ or /v/ crossboarder like you read years ago

>92512806
I've got bad news, YOU are probably a millennial. Unless you're underage or in you mid 30s.

>>92507735
If this is edge then what the hell league are Shadow the Hedgehog and Dante in now?

>>92512869
A good way to spot a millenial is his inability to even use 4chan itself propely, for starters.
Another way is his trademark cowardice, where he'll try to cover up his own fuckups hoping no one will notice.

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>92512938
Thanks for confirming your underage status.

You motherfuckers need more Hunter S. Thompson in your lives.

>>92512619
>people literally making up religions on the spot to blatently further their own agendas
>Spider calling them out on their bullshit
Sooooo edgy.

>>92513104
He didn't actually read any of it, just looked at the pictures.

>>92512865
>20 years old
2/10 made me reply

>>92512998
>Hunter S. Thompson
>"motherfuckers"
Underage faggot, I bet your favorite movie is Fear and Loathing

Transmetropolitan is probably one of my all-time favorite comics.

>>92512619
>>92512649
>>92512806
the satire is that Spider is dressed up like Jesus and this is a direct reference to when Jesus knocked over the tables at temple when they were selling stuff outside

>>92514391
It was in /co/ top 5 best comics of all time for years, consistently, in hundreds of personal top 10 lists.
It's unfortunate the userbase changed so much.

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Who holds the rights to Transmet? Will we see some horrible reboot with not-trump shoehorned in hard?

Why do Nationalists love Christianity but hate Jews? Jesus was a jew. Half of the bible is strictly about jews.

Problem is, in a social climate where irony and cynicism are law, the satires from old start feeling flat and become irrelevant. Same thing happened to The Simpsons. At this point in history, Spider's complaints are about as obvious, he might as well be complaining that the air contains nitrogen.

>>92514462
That's obvious (I seriously hope there aren't people here that didn't recognize that, because it's one of the most known things from the Bible), but it doesn't change the fact that it's edgy.
>>92514474
What are you talking about? You mean you saw it often in 3x3 threads? As far as I'm aware, /co/ didn't have "top 10" threads. No board does, save for /v/ occasionally because of the newfag plebs using the shitty "top 10" template instead of making a 3x3.

>>92514498
All things considered, Spider would have hated Trump and it wouldn't be weird to see a notTrump in transmet at all.

>>92514505
>"it was le prophetic bro!"
Stop deluding yourself, the social happenings of the comic are extreme, we're not there yet and we will not be for who knows how long. Even the most down-to-earth plot, the presidental election, is filled with hyperboles.

>>92514502
>Half of the bible is strictly about jews rejecting the Messiah and sending him to the Romans because he won't yield them shekels and take over the land for them.
FTFY

>>92514462
Hey, that's actually pretty neat.

I think his language is the problem. It implies that he's referring to all religions.

Then again, I haven't read the comic and I don't know the context.

>>92514550
You clearly missed the point of Spider's complaints throughout the comic: His biggest gripe is that nobody cares about how bad things are. Each and every of his rants can be summed as "You idiots are getting robbed and exploited by other idiots and you don't even care to notice!!"

In that regard, yes, our society has reached that point and embraces that mentality with ironic gusto. It's how Brexit happened and why Trump was elected over Hillary.

>>92514630
That's the point, yes, and also that Spider searches for truth and wants the other people to do the same. I agree with him, but if we're looking at the specific situations happening in The City, then it's as far from reality now as it was back in its run.
>our society has reached that point
The society was always like that, do you seriously think that the masses cared before?
>It's how Brexit happened and why Trump was elected over Hillary
No, both of these happened because of different reasons. Trump was voted because Hillary was seen as a bigger evil by some, and Brexit was the result of EU being so tolerant with refugees, in a sense that they let them all in and now they're terrorizing the place (not everyone of course, but just look at the news, there's many examples of refugees attacking, raping, stabbing etc. people, and anecdotal evidence too, but I know people take those for granted).

>>92512516
>she appeared near the end with that set of pictures for Spider.

Maybe I didn't understand the timeline, but unless there was some kind of flashback going on she got the camera after the event she was supposed to have taken pictures of.

It didn't ruin Transmet, but it did hurt my affection for it.

>>92512619
Everybody posts this as "edgy" but ignores the fact that like three panels later Spider devolves into a mess crying about how a cult brainwashed his dad and ruined his family.

It's not edge for edge sake, Ellis does provide a solid basis for Spider's actions other than "muh intellectual superiority." He has a vested, emotional stake in this,and it's made clear he's probably overreacting because of very personal reasons.

>>92512734
>autosentience
What's autosentience?

But yeah, the foglets in the far future reservation came close, but when people really start fucking with human nature on a genetic level shit's going to get weird.

>>92514718
>The society was always like that, do you seriously think that the masses cared before?
Compared to the second half of 20th century, which was full of revolutionaries worldwide social upheaval, these past decades reek of defeatism and submission.

>>92514721
Didn't she get the camera before the event? The issue in which her cryogenic revival is shown chronologically happens way before Smiler's campaign. The only plot hole is that she would wait that long to send it to him. Yes, she knew he needs it, but she knew that back when Smiler's campaign was ongoing too. It was obvious that plot thread happened because of a shock value (coming out of the blue), and also it's paying an homage to one of the oldest issues. I didn't mind this though.
>>92514747
>crying about how a cult brainwashed his dad and ruined his family
Can't argue with this. He also mentions his parents one more time, I think. He's really secretive about his family, but his life must have been really bad. I can't help but sympathise with him, although I am annoyed at how many drugs he uses, even if it's understandable from a certain point.

>>92514785
That's because apathy became cool and then once even that wasn't enough anymore it devolved into straight up bootlicking.

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>>92514756
Autosentience is total self-awareness. That means that you don't have an unconsciousness because you can you are aware of all of your internal processes.
The reservation issue was great. I specially liked how they mentioned in the far-future park that a lot of them did die because of all these experimentations
What issue was it again?

>>92514867
>apathy became cool
Can you elaborate?
>>92514785
>revolutionaries
They were present in most time periods, and they're in the minority. The masses don't give a fuck and are ordered around by the status quo of their time, which I guess is set by the revolutionaries mostly, or slow but sure changes in the societal norms.

>>92514912
>What issue was it again?
Issue 9, and I agree with you.
I wish the series was longer.

>>92514912
Woah, what's that pic from?
Aside the edit, i mean, it looks interesting.

>>92514912
Yaknow for as much as I like Transmetn I think Global Frequency might be my favorite Ellis.

>>92507735
That tells a lot more about you than about the comic.

And it's all bad.

>>92514511
>That's obvious (I seriously hope there aren't people here that didn't recognize that, because it's one of the most known things from the Bible), but it doesn't change the fact that it's edgy.

:/

>>92515092
>:/
Come on now.

>>92514976
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>>92514984
My favorite Warren Ellis is still City of Silence, although Lazarus Churchyard is pretty good too.

It's very interesting how he went from City of Silence's "the future is terrible and will fuck you with knives" to Transmetropolitan's "Every new year is a little better".

>>92514984
>>92515103
Nice, i'll check it out right now.

>>92514511
It's funny that most edgelords are pissy atheists when a close reading of the Bible reveals Jesus as a pretty edgy guy himself. What can ya do.

>>92512619
I want triggered christfags to leave

>>92515130
>Jesus
>edgy
Anon...

>>92515107
Haven't gotten to either of those yet I'm ashamed to say. Does Desolation Jones get any better? I've read the first trade and found it to be remarkably dull.

>>92512619
>expected something over-the-top and lolsorandum
>reference to the Cleansing of the Temple
At least people are pushing your shit in for it

>>92514798
>Didn't she get the camera before the event?

Pulling up someone's comments on this:
"In Transmetropolitan #22, Spider gives Mary a camera. In issue #57, she tells him she used the camera to take pictures of Vita Severn's assassin being recruited. Her taking the picture presumably took place during or before issue #18, where Vita is killed. Issue #22, where Spider gave her the camera, therefore had to take place before #18, but Spider seems to be telling Mary in this issue that he is seeking revenge against the Smiler for arranging Vita's death in issue #18, which would imply it takes place after issue #18."

>>92515171
Not really, and then he stopped writing it when he lost the laptop with all his notes.
>tfw STEALTH TRIBES will never ever ever be released

>>92515283
You're right, I thought she gets the camera in her first issue, that's issue 7 I think.

>>92507735
Take note, this is minimalist bat.
7.5/10

>>92515283
Ah, hadn't realized that was part of the hard drive death. Fell and Doktor Sleepless were big losses man.

>>92515354
I want to live in the timeline where he didn't lose that hard drive.

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>>92512367
Spider Jerusalem is one part Hunter S. Thompson and two parts Warren Ellis' wish fulfillment.

Warren Ellis originally wanted to be a journalist, but ended up writing comics instead. Transmetropolitan is Ellis living vicariously through the filter of Hunter S. Thompson in a dystopian cyberpunk future of fuckery and filth.

At some points you can clearly read some of Spider's rants as Warren Ellis giving a lecture to readers about his own existential crises and colorful venting on politics.

Whoever made this wallpaper encapsulated Transmetropolitian and Warren Ellis perfectly.

>all these triggered bitches

>>92507735
>edgy
Unless it's from Avatar Press or some underground comic seeing people on /co/ use this word is a joke.

Go read JSA or something equally bland

>>92512619
>references biblical Jesus throwing over tables in cleansing of the temple
>self-reflectively parodies the fact that Spider-Jerusalem himself acts as a sort of modern messiah for his in-universe fans (even if he doesn't want it)

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>>92515354
Not gonna lie, Fell was a big loss for me.

>>92515354

Hard drive...right.

Because Trees and Injection haven't been dragging its feet...

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>>92515545
Have a pity (you).

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>>92515621
Warren Ellis' Avatar Press work is criminally underrated. That was what really made me an Ellis fan.

Ignition City
FreakAngels
Black Summer
No Hero
Supergod
Anna Mercury
Gravel
Doktor Sleepless

Man, those were great.

Pic is edgier than anything you'll find in Transmetropolitan.

>>92514915
>>92514915
>>apathy became cool
A lot of last the 20 or 30 years of culture has been around not caring, where have you been.

>>92516280
I know what you wanted to say, but where are your arguments for that?

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>>92516209
I liked Supergod most.

>>92516301
I don't know dude, I'm replying on /co/, not writing a academic paper, but just look at 90s slacker culture, 00s hipsterism and 10s "meme culture" (if you get what I mean) and you'll see how existence itself has become ironic and detached.

>>92516363
Just because we've gone into a heavy post-irony and whatnot with the memes doesn't mean existence itself has become ironic and detached. I can see what you mean, though, as I consider social networks to be the main reason for the state of things. They do propagate apathy because people just share images for validation, and don't want to do anything else (except their duties like studying or working).

>>92512360
/co/ is now for manchildren, they don't want adult focused comics, anything like this is edgy. That's how shitty this board has become.

>>92507735
Because you're a faggot with no taste.

>>92512360
>I think, right now, considering the political climate and the type of person that browses 4chan and /co/, it's simply not relevant to the board anymore.

This. Transmetropolitan is a great comic, the big problem is that it is slowly becoming a true story - minus Spider Jerusalem.

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>>92516331
Out of that unofficial trilogy, I'm in agreement with you. Supergod was the best.

My favorites were FreakAngels, Ignition City and Anna Mercury.

Still pissed that I'll never read the end to Anna Mercury 2: Ultraspacial Dreadnought Vanaheim.

Pic is me shilling for Warren Ellis.

>>92507735
That's just Ellis. He thinks he's clever and smart but he's actually juvenile and very lowbrow.

>>92516468
>uses potty humor as a scene transition.
I'd say that's pretty fucking clever.

>>92516452
Reminder: Warren Ellis actually visited /co/ long, long ago to answer questions and just generally chat about dicks. He linked to the thread from his personal blog the next day, clearly not understanding how chans worked.

It was kinda adorable.

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>>92516407
>getting angry because some people don't like the same comics you do
I think we all know who the real manchild is.

>>92514502
Nationalists in which country? I assure you zionists don't love Christianity and neither do the Saudi, you are a retard that has no idea what he is talking about.

Anyway Jews are rejected becouse they are not loyal to the country they are from, according to Israel newspapers over 90% of Jews are zionist and by definition they put their zionism over the interest of the country. The Jews are a nation, just as the gypsies, they are a separate nation that lives inside your country.

State =/= country =/= nation

>>92516526
In what part I mentioned "liking"?
I don't like transmetropolitan, Im saying only a manchild would call it edgy. It's like calling watchmen edgy.

>>92516594
> according to Israel newspapers over 90% of Jews are zionist
Not in America they fucking aren't. As a Jew (by blood, non-practicing) who grew up entrenched in the Jewish community, they give less of a fuck about controlling the country than Christians do. Fuck's sake, my Polish relatives have a stronger internal community than the Jewish ones.

>>92516671
Fair enough.

man i remember when /co/ used to be cool

>>92516671
There are a number of people on this board that WOULD call Watchmen edgy.

>>92516945
People on this board would call literally anything edgy if you gave them the chance.

>>92516945
They call anything with themes that are not child friendly edgy. They are usually the same people that went mad when Snyder took a photo with natural light at dawn, in Iceland, against the source light with water reflecting light behind and thought it was a filter cuz Snyder hates colors... Instead of just a terrible choice of place and time to take a picture. I love action driven comics and I don't pretend I don't LIKE fun comics over objectively better comics, but I can't deny this board has a huge population of Manchildren that want everything to be like a Saturday morning cartoon, just with more tits and some extra violence. Fuck I had read people saying Gaiman is pretentious and that heavy metal is just edgy shit.

>>92517143
Or pseudo deep. I have no idea what that means, since. Things are either deep or not, there's no such thing as pseudo deep.

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>>92516518
>visited /co/
>talked about dicks
>linked 4chan to his blog

Jesus Christ would I love to have been there for that. Never change Ellis.