http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he at-vision/guardians-gala

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Of course not. Mantis isn't some pale(yes I know what she originally looked like) personification of autism.

Fuck Gunn for ruining Marvel Cosmic.

>>92507571
>literally "not muh"

Gunn imroved her.

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>>92507609
>Fuck Gunn for ruining Marvel Cosmic.

Gunn is Marvel Cosmic.

>>92507646
Oh look the shills have arrived.

>>92507609
so did you like guardians before the first movie or did you just jump on the bandwagon and now is going off on anything related to the movie cuz your want to look good in front of the other 7 people who liked guardians before the movie?

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>>92507571
>T...
>THIS IS NOT MY NOTASIANEXOTIC WAIFU
>YOU BASTARDS YOU TOOK THE CHARACTER I SOLD INTO BONDAGE AND WHOREDOM AND MADE HER NOT MY WAIFU

>>92507571
He is right. She is nothing like Mantis.

>>92507571
Post some Mantis pics from the movie please. The one with her and Drax laughing and the one where her face looking shocked.

>>92507646
>>92507657
>what MCU fans think

Have you idiots ever read a comic or do you just parrot shit off of /tv/?

>>92507684
He stated an objective fact you stupid shill. MCU Mantis has little in common with 616 Mantis.

>>92507646
Love what a loser who wrote this

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>>92507688
>>THIS IS NOT MY NOTASIANEXOTIC WAIFU

BRAVO MARVEL

>>92507571
Foolish man! Now Marvel has a reason not to pay you royalties!

>>92507571
They should have kept her green.
I know why they didn't, that would take away from Gamora's screen presence, but I still think she should have stayed a different color.

>>92507571
Most people that watch marvel movies don't read comics, so why bother?

>>92507684
Not him, but I liked that one run of the characters and I thought that the first Origin of Starlord was pretty interesting as well. Puts him much closer to the likes of Beta Ray Bill than to the underdog with sufficient firepower he currently is.

>>92507571
>massively successful

>space autist laughing.jpg

>>92507730
its okay to admit it anon i was just like you loved the first movie and then got into the comic

>>92507709

I can comfortably say I've read more comics than you.

>>92507571
>I enjoyed my night at the movies so long as I turned my brain off
The MCU in a nutshell.

>>92507775
Pics or gtfo.

>>92507760
No I'm not a paid shill

>>92507709
>reading marvel

>>92507786
>Marvel shills
>getting paid
>ever
Well, duh.

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>>92507571
>That's not the Vietnamese whore I created.

Englehart was a mistake.

>>92507786
i understand its awkward at first doing this type of stuff but its like working telemarketing after a while it gets easier

>>92507800
>falling for memes

>>92507571
He's right, she's very different from comic Mantis.

But there's nothing wrong with that, he even says he enjoyed the movie and it's version of Mantis overall.

Though if anyone has a right to feel salty over a not muh, it's a creator. Can't fault him for that.

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>>92507825
>implying

>>92507571
>turned my brain off

People who say this, do this, or request this from others deserve to be shot.

So she was originally the same bitchy hyper-competent smartass as all the other characters?

No wonder they changed her for the movie.

>>92507571
No Shit. All of the Guardians are just retarded meme machines in the MCU.

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>>92507706
A-Anyone?

I agree with Steve. I liked it but I had to suppress my not muh pretty hard.

>>92507859
>if anyone has a right to feel salty over a not muh, it's a creator
This. If the author of the original work is happy, then the adaptation is a success; fuck critics and fuck box office.

>>92507571
Based Marvel, always respecting their characters. Not like smelly DC amirite Marvelbros?

>>92507657
Not. Yet.

>>92507919
Now I want to know what he thinks about DCEU Deadshot; it was he and Marshall Rogers that brought him back, after all.

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>>92507893
Here you go anon

Very mature response. Doesn't just mindlessly repeat the narrative that MCU has portrayals that are true to the the comic versions but also doesn't senselessly insult the movie just because the character is different there. A completely reasonable thing to say.

>>92507703
He's not wrong, but that doesn't mean that being different from the source = automatically a bad thing.

Just look at MCU Yondu. He's even more of a departure from comics Yondu than Mantis is, and was so much better for it.

>>92507917
Ostrander liked Suicide Squad.

>>92507876
If movies based on children's comical booklets take effort for your brain to process, you might want to consult professional help.

>>92507959
He did. And so SS is a good movie.

>>92507963
I think he means it's like going back to IE after using a real browser.

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>>92507890
Yeah, why can't they be completely serious like the comics?

>>92507571
Oh get over it Steve, your waifu is too convoluted to portray correctly.

>>92508009
>one panel out of many many non-quipping ones

Whats with the DCshilling? Wonder Woman not good enough?

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>>92507688
>>THIS IS NOT MY NOTASIANEXOTIC WAIFU

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>>92508022
We need the seriousness from this that is lacking in the movies

In all fairness, Mantis was basically garbage as a character until DnA got a hold of her.

>That version of the character was a human who would later ascend to cosmic awareness and become the "Celestial Madonna," the mother of a child who was prophesied to be "the most important being in the universe." Along the way, she would be trained as a martial artist, and serve as a member of both the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy, showing an anger and capability that is, indeed, very different from Pom Klementieff's onscreen version.
So...she was a shitty Mary-sue, and any changes to that original premise is better by default

>>92508036
>>92508009
>>92508080
>DAMAGE CONTROL PROTOCOLS: ACTIVATED

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>>92508085
>>92508102
I just wish we could have scenes as serious as this in the movies

What the hell is with all this shitposting?

I really like Mantis from the comics, but did anyone really expect Gunn to try and explain her entire Celestial Madonna bullshit? Her origin is super convoluted.

My biggest disappointment was that she didn't seem to have any telepathy or precognitive skills, but I enjoyed the movie and character enough to not let it bother me that much.

>>92507859
It's an alternate universe, so yeah she is barely Mantis. Still very enjiyable and adorable. It's not like Gunn hasn't completely altered all the guardians of the galaxy and villains already. MCU cosmic marvel has almost nothing to do with Annihilation and those stories. But what he's done is enjoyable.

I'm with Englhart. I really like the movies but they aren't muh guardians.

>>92508015
>>92507948
>>92507882

This. That's always been the strength of the MCU: they take characters that might be dumb or unlikable and make them better.

>>92508128
You know, it's amazing how comic Rocket has been such an irredeemable asshole that they still put up with him. Yes, GOTG2 touched upon this, but Bendis made it sound like Rocket would shoot up a school cause kids were easy targets.

>>92507571
Didn't the characterization of Quill and Drax clue him in that this would be happening?

>>92508170
Also
>would later ascend to cosmic awareness and become the "Celestial Madonna," the mother of a child who was prophesied to be "the most important being in the universe."
Thank fuck they didn't adapt that fanfiction/Jean Grey tier shit.

>>92508149
>I really like Mantis from the comics
Could you, like, prove you read the comics?

>>92508166
>memesters and quipsters
>better

>>92507571
t. NO MUH WAIFU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>92508085
The movies aren't lelsorandumb. They're comedic, but the comedy isn't random.

>>92508009
Oh fuck off with your damage control. Dance off bro was fucking dumb and all the MCU GOTG are only vehicles to deliver quips.
>Drax in the comics: Inteligent, well spoken, loyal, friendly
>Drax in movies: HAHAHA LET ME EXPLAIN THE JOKE IN A REALLY LOUD AND OBNOXIOUS TONE BECAUSE IT IS SO FUNNY HAHAHA

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>>92508208
So much worse than the never quipping comic counter parts

>>92508237
>Drax in the comics: Inteligent, well spoken, friendly
Loyal, sure, the rest? Fuck no.

>>92508236
>LE EBIN DANCE OFF X-DDD
>not lelsorandumb

>>92508237
>Intelligent
Except for that Starlin run, but yeah I agree.

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>seriously expects a massive and thorough adaptation of a SIDE CHARACTER in a summer action movie that's being micromanaged to hell and back by kike executives in order to be as accessible to the masses as possible

is this guy a moron? no, really, is he dumb? and, jesus christ,

>That version of the character was a human who would later ascend to cosmic awareness and become the "Celestial Madonna," the mother of a child who was prophesied to be "the most important being in the universe." Along the way, she would be trained as a martial artist, and serve as a member of both the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy

what a ridiculous mary sue backstory, this shit would have theaters across the world cringing if it happened

>>92508166
>Make them better
No they make them into Tony Stark. The MCU has one character, and they take him and rehash his personality on every other character. Every fucking one makes quips, doesn't take shit seriously, is an asshole, and never gets shit for it. Except for Cap and hopefully Panther.

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>>92508264
>this desperation
You should ask Marvel to make a Shill Edition of every GotG comic ever, for when you have to fight the enemies of your favorite corporation.

>>92508208
I read the DNA comics, and I don't think it's too much of a stretch to compare that to the movie version.

Yes there's still obvious differences, but it's still not as bad as Drax. He's extremely different from the comics (Though I suppose it could be argued he's a mix of classic and modern Drax)

I'm calling Steve out on complaining because he's too attached to the character he created. This is a character he literally brought with him to DC comics. She's basically his waifu, and he was never going to be happy with anything but a 1:1 adaption.

>>92507646
More like Giffen and DnA improved her.

Englehart Mantis has always been shit.

>>92508272

Which is beside the point. They took an obscure existing character and completely changed it when they could just have made a new one.

No one would have cared.

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>>92508303
>>92508272
>>92508310
Sure, sure. The MCU saved comics again.

>>92507571
>Marvel actually puts your waifu on the big screen thus immortalizing her forever
>NOT MUH KUNG FU VIETNAMESE TREE-FUCKING HOOKER SPACE-VIRGIN MARY SUE MANTIS

Englehart keepin the dream alive I see. Wonder what he thinks of Star-Lord.

>>92508272
>is this guy a moron? no, really, is he dumb? and, jesus christ,
This is the guy who had Mantis beat Thor and Cap in her first appearance an take over the Avengers book.

>>92507737
They dont pay royalties. Bronze Tiger got his creator more money for SS then Drax got him for GotG and im betting the second one too.

>>92508324
MCU shills actually do it for free don't they

>>92508315
you'd either never see her, see her as a major villain, or see her as this in the current mcu, because nobody in their right mind is going to watch a mantis movie

it's time to pick your poison

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>>92508293
I'm agreeing with you anon, I want more seriousness from the comics, which you've totally read, to be in the movies.

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>not muh Vietnamese hooker

>>92508269
>dance off
>random
How does it feel to not be able to follow movies made for children?
It's a payoff from earlier scenes where they set up that some aliens don't understand dancing, aswell as a "dancing saves the day" callback to that Footloose reference. Also a fitting character moment for Quill and a subvestion of classic action movie endings.

>>92508334
Doesn't the guy who created Wolverine get more from Lucious Fox's film appearances? Marvel's pretty shit about royalties

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>>Mantis was altered to screen
>>Writer who created her hates it.
LOL, what a fucking moron.
>>Valkyrie is black
THOSE FUCKING SJW'S!!!

>>92508334
>They don't pay royalties
And so, not liking Marvel is also an ethical decision.

>>92508324
Not even the MCU can save Marvel Comics at this point

>>92508324
I literally just admitted I don't really like the movie version of Drax all that much.

Of course I'm going to defend the movie. It was an extremely good movie that I enjoyed. That doesn't mean its without its faults. I still want Star Lord to put on a damn helmet, and I really didn't like the Pac Man scene. The Tazerface joke also went on waaaaay too long.

And I'm a huge Spider-Man fan and am not excited about the new movie at all. There's too much different from the comic there with Not!Ganke, Tony Stark, Flash, and more.

Just because someone defends something doesn't mean they're undyingly loyal to it.

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>>92508362
>b-but it's retarded on purpose!

>>92507917
That's fucking retarded because who is the creator in this scenario? The characters were created by half a dozen people before even others used them in Guardians of the Galaxy. DnA Mantis has as much in common with Englehart's as the movie.

>>92508363
I wpuldnt be surprised. Marvel Studios has all this money is the fucking cheapest pos ever.

>>92508363
He made more money off the Dark Knight movies than he ever made off of Wolverine

>>92507571
>MCU is ashamed of the source material

>water is wet

>>92508376
It can easily be argued that the MCU is making the comics worse.

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>>92508389
As I just explained, it's not retarded. You might be though.

>>92508420
Can you argue a fact

>>92508367
It's obvious /co/ doesn't care as long as they can fap them.

They can fap to MCU Mantis more than comic Mantis but not MCU Valkyrie.

The only ones who REEEEEE'd about not being able to fap that mucj rp MCU Mantis were footfags.

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>>92508363
>>92508409
He said so, yes. Poor Len Wein.

>>92508421
>namecalling
Breaking.

>>92508334
>>92508363
Same with Starlin. Said he made more money from fucking KGBeast who wasn't even in costume than Marvel has paid him for all his characters they've used in the MCU combined.

>>92508339
>you'd either never see he

Which remains a perfectly valid option. If you can't do it without butchering it out of recognition, maybe don't do it?

I don't care myself. I just think it's kind of disingenuous to shut out the complaint from the creator that his character was misused when there was no point in using it in the first place.

I mean it's always easy to shut down other people's complains when it's not what you care about that get them up in arms.

>>92507571
did people bitch when ultimate cap wasnt like 616 cap? i dont get it, thats not 616 mantis, so why does it matter if shes not the same

>>92508428
>not pandering to footfags
See all that money on the floor, Marvel? It could have been yours.

>>92508448
Because the MCU influences 616 more than it should.

>>92508448
>did people bitch when ultimate cap wasn't like 616 cap?
Yes. It was very sad to see him as a GWB lackey.

>>92508439
Why the fuck is Marvel so unethical.

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>>92508432
>MOM, SOMEONE CALLED ME DUMB ON 4CHAN BECAUSE I WAS BEING DUMB!
For real?
And it's the second time I call you stupid, guess you were too dumb to catch the first time.

>>92508439
They also apparently didn't even pay Rocket Racoon's creator because he is handicapped now.

I don't get how so many people support that scummy fucking company.

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>>92508474

>People here are defending this
The fact that they change so much about the characters is the best proof that Marvel Studios (only specifying here because we're talking about GotG, the other studios aren't much better) don't respect their comic reading fanbase, even less the medium. Sure they want your money, so they'll make sure to use the right names, but in the end they don't care about you.

>"It would have been too difficult to adapt the character as it is in the comics"
Then use easier ones. Or create new ones even! How about a whole new franchise that has nothing to do with comics? But no, marketing is marketing, and as long as fanboys feel pandered to there is no reason to create something new.

Marvel treats you like cattle.

>>92508389
Doesn't matter if you think it's retarded. It's set up throughout the movie and has a purpose. It's not random at all

>>92508473
Dude they've always been this way, look how Kirby was treated

>>92508420
No, that is just the stupid writers and editors at Marvel Comics making shit decisions.

The DCEU is shit yet DC Comics is doing really good right now.

>>92508535
Im just beating a dead horse

>>92508530
They have Aus in comics where the characters are different all the time. How is the movie universe any different?

>>92508414
Alright, you're not even trying to have a discussion. This is just blatant shitposting at this point.

>>92508473
It's almost like a really stingy CEO runs the company

>>92508448
I sometimers wonder that too, but then I remember most people in movie threads don't read comics.

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>>92508513
You seem dumb and desperate.

>>92508473
Because contracts. They don't have to give anyone shit if they signed over all their rights as soon as marvel waved a check at them.

>>92507571
>Suicide Squad: upvoted by original author
>GOTG: author sad that his characters were ruined
Huh. It's almost as if the MCU hates the source material and only cares about money.

>>92508264
I'm amazed at how shitty they can make rocket look in half the panels he was in. The movie version is really cute.

>>92508530
>Marvel Studios
James Gunn said he only took the movie cause he was allowed much more freedom to do what he wanted with the cosmic characters. The execs have far less control than they did on Whedon or do on all the other movies. So if anything the blame is entirely on Gunn.

I still enjoy the movies

>>92507571
Aren't they gonna mention he created Star-Lord too?

>>92508530
You don't know a damn thing about Mantis do you? She is one of the most confoundingly convoluted characters ever created. The version in the GOTG comics was already nothing like the version that Englehart created.

>>92507571
>>92507609
>She's my Vietnamese prostitute turned martial artist who gain spontaneous mutations from fucking a tree!

Really Englehart?

>>92508009
Let me guess? That was done by Bendis?

>>92508544
I don't disagree that ultimately, Marvel's problem is top down and the creative teams and editorial (what little they still have) are to blame.

But you're fucking blind if you think that the comics haven't been swamped with forced S Y N E R G Y because of how popular the MCU is. Marvel cosmic isn't the only thing that's been affected by this.

>>92508613
Rocket looks terrible in 90% of his comics. Artists don't know how to draw him

>>92507779
>The MCU in a nutshell.
This.

>>92508631
Now explain Drax.

>>92508266
>Loyal, sure, the rest? Fuck no.

They pretty much restored his intelligence when Giffen was writing the character.

>ITT: people who don't read comics accuse people who don't read comics of not reading comics while the people who read comics go ignored

I really hate most of you

>>92508584
Do you?

>GotG movie is successful
>changed to be like the MCU

>X-Men/FF rights don't belong to Marvel Studios
>X-Men/FF put on a bus

>Ant-Man movie
>new Scott Lang book featuring the villain from the movie

>new Civil War movie
>Civil War II event

>>92508473
Ike is the greedy merchant meme personified. It's unsettling.

>>92508646
>From “Guardians of the Galaxy” (Vol. 2) #22, by Dan Abnett, Andy Lanning & Brad Walker.
Stop trying so hard to fit in

>>92508613
That's because the movies used an actual raccoon as a character model. Pretty sure most of the artists in the comics were drawing from memory or a description of what a raccoon might look like.

Awesomely enough, Mignola's Rocket was both cute and actually looked like a raccoon.

>>92508683
Or retconning Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's parents from being Magneto (and thus them being mutants) to being a complete mess like it was before.

>>92508704
Well, excuse me. But when I see shit I normally think of crap nuggets floating in the toilet.

>>92508671
It's basically the same thing. Giffen killed the old Drax who was reborn into a new one. And even Starlin revamped him in the 90s.

It's true of pretty much all the GOTG characters really. Giffen and DnA didn't outright contradict much but they were pretty light on continuity.

>>92508683
Way to miss the point tardo.
There's nothing wrong with the movies having their own version of the characters that differ from 616. The problems you point out are entirely on Marvel editorial being dumb synergywhores, it's not on Marvel Studios or the people who make their movies.

>>92508646
Way to out yourself, faggot. A fucking look at what Quill's wearing should be enough to tell you that it's not Bendis.

>>92508646
Can you please read a comic book before posting on /co/

Gunn changes all the Cosmic characters for better or for worse.

The only ones he fucked over badly are Ronan, Gamora and the Nova Corps. Ronan was a waste, Gamora is boring as fuck typical no nonesense femme fatale cookie cutter just like Widow, and Nova corps didn't even have Nova force and he killed Saal.

Then Marvel Comics makes it worse since they try to synergize and do the characters like Gunn does disregarding their comic history but they can't replicate what made them successful in the movie screen. Which is why we have extreme manchild-Lord, angry Rocket and literal autist Drax without the depth, jobbed boring Gamora, and powerless Nova corps.

Except this new comic Nova corps is worse because at least the MCU Novas fought to the death and were useful. This new Novas get easily triggered and they give up easily the moment their lives are threatened, can't fucking handle Deadpool so how the fuck are they going to protect the Galaxy?

>>92508739
Consult a phsychiatrist, this scat obsession isn't healthy anon.

>>92508277
>Vision
>Scarlet Witch
>Cap
>WS
>Daredevil

Yeah man. Each of them were such quirky memesters who didn't take anything seriously.

>>92508683
>Ant-Man movie
>>new Scott Lang book featuring the villain from the movie
As an ant man fan i was happy for this. I am a pymfag but i will take Lang. And it was a good book, best part was ants vrs paperclips. It even had an issue with Pym while he was off being pymtron in SPAAACE.

>>92508756
But see my point that you are making yourself? When I see something bad in a comic, I think Bendis, because he is a bad writer.

>>92508719
They were mutants long before they were retconned into being Magneto's kids.

>>92507571
Wow. Imagine someone who care about dc characters like that watch Snyder movies?

>>92508719
Also pushing Inhumans as the new X-Men to the point of making a giant kill cloud that gets rid of mutants and makes Inhumans

>>92508749
The point is that Marvel will take from their movies to change mainline comics so it's understandable to be upset about changes. In the case of GotG they're the Guardians in name only. It works fine in the MCU for a forgetable popcorn flick but it's going to have shitty long term effects

>>92508782
That run was fun but it was the exception that proves the rule

>>92508608
>Guardians: Good movie that shits all over the comics
>Suicide Squad: Shit movie that's accurate to the comics

Which is more important? Film quality or funny book cohesiveness?

>>92508815
What fucking long term effects? The GOTG had one cult run with a definite ending.

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>>92508767
Comic writers like Bendis or Slott are usually autistic and can't understand the subtext or analyze a movie and it's characters, even a movie like Guardians of the Galaxy. That's why all of the characters and other changes adapted into the comics had any depth stripped out of them.

It isn't Gunn's fault that some fat bald guy was stealing ideas from his movie as far back as 2012.

>>92508855
He didn't even steal from Gunn's draft but from Perlman's. That's where he got all the Badoon and Spartax stuff from.

>>92508792
It was implied at one point that they were the kids of the Whizzer and Ms. America.

>>92508767
>new Novas
I missed that. All i know are Sam and Dick and that comic was so fucking bad i dropped even pirating it by issue 2. They brought back the corps?

>>92508683
If you think comic tie-ins to movies started with the MCU then you're a fucking newfag and need to read more comics. Member when the X-Men got uniforms to match the Singer movies' dark leather? Or when Ultimate Doctor Octopus wore a trenchcoat because that's what Ock did in the second spidey movie? Or how Zod in the comics went from being a scientist to kryptonian millitary leader because of the second superman? Of course you don't :)

>>92508638
you make ir sound dumb, but she really is just a speshul snowflake by his own creator's description.

>>92508815
>The point is that Marvel will take from their movies to change mainline comics so it's understandable to be upset about changes.
No, you should be angry at the lame synergy attempts and changes in comics, which are in no way made obligatory by the MCU version.
It's like getting mad at J.D. Sallinger because Lennon got shot.

>>92508745
>pretty light on continuity.
Light is an understatement. They might as well have been new characters post-Annihilation

Telling DnAfags that however is an uphill battle

>>92508784
>the Bendis meme has gone too far

You know there are other bad writers?

>>92508767
>implying the Novas weren't always a bunch of useless fucks outside of Rider

>>92508854
Shitting on what made people enjoy those characters and stories. Marvel knew people enjoy the GotG run which is why they tried to cash in with a movie. If they didn't we could've just had an Alpha Flight movie

>>92508850
>Shit movie that's accurate to the comics
I don't understand this. I know Ostrander praised the film, and I know that it uses the villain from the second or third major story arc in the Ostrander book. But the actual film was really different from the comics, if you discount which characters are in it. The comics generally had more to say about the real-life world, and it didn't become a Harley Quinn book until 2011.

>>92508649
That comes from Perlmutter and Marvel Entertainment which control everything but Marvel Studios.

Marvel Studios only does its thing, they don't order the synergy.

Fuck, remember the organic web introduced in the comics? The X-Men black suits in the comics? That was even before the MCU happened and it was stupid.

Back at WB DC only controls their comic division and WB never cared that much for forced synergy. Injustice is doing its thing, the cartoons are doing their thing, the shows are doing their thing, etc...

Meanwhile Marvel Entertainment had said that they want everything to connect and be uniform as possible and funny enough that was partially why Feige kicked them out (main reason was Perlmutter being a cheapstake) since the Creative Comittee stiffled creativity and were very controlling.

>its okay because she is a minor character
>its okay when marvel does it
Sadder thing is Englehart didn't even get paid suitably AND got his character ruined AND has the shills saying he is being a baby.

>obscure character featured in MCU film differed from the original 616 version

Wew what an outrage. Especially considering they've gone on record of saying they're purposely making the MCU different and not a direct adaptation of 616 because it's an alternatie universe and they want to give fans of the books something unexpected.

>>92508850
Suicide Squad was the better movie and was more respectful to the comics. What now?

>>92508931
Because they don't cater to the 3 people that read DnA's run. How are you still not understanding that after all these years

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>>92508931
>Marvel knew people enjoy the GotG run which is why they tried to cash in with a movie.

>92508957
I fail to give you a (You) for liking that piece of shit

>>92507571
He's not wrong.

>>92508949
>>92508951
sensible chuckle

>>92508879
Did I ever say those were fine? We were talking about how the MCU influences and changes the comics. Personally I hardly like it when outside media effects the source except on the rare occasion the adaptation is better

>>92507739
How many Asian people are in the MCU?

>>92508931
>""""cashing in""""
>on literally who team of D list characters that only popped up in minis and one run that lasted a few years
> run that was never particularly successful financially
>""""""""cashing in""""""""""
I love DnA too, but cmon man

>>92508959
>>92508965
Then why base a movie around DnA's run

>>92508942
Upboated

>>92509013
He's not wrong. You try having a bunch of autists sit on a board and give you "advice" on making movies. You'd get sick of it too.

>>92509012
How is this based around that run? They have some of the character names but the story is completely different.

>>92509012
Because Gunn liked it.

>>92508987
And I'm saying singling out the MCU for this when they've been doing it for decades is bullshit.

>>92508925
They were jobbers but they were brave jobbers that at least put a 100% in their efforts and went down defending Xandar and the Galaxy. New Novas saw Deadpool being too violent or holding a fake Nullifier and they chickened out. They saw Star-Lord and Gamora threatening them and they chickened out, they are pathetic.

Also don't speak ill about Robbie, edgy Saal and Ko-Rel dammit.

>>92508942
this

It's the reason I only like Marvel Studios when it comes to modern capeshit. the rest of Marvel, from games to comics, is WAY too fucking corporate and soulless.

>>92508942
>Back at WB DC only controls their comic division and WB never cared that much for forced synergy. Injustice is doing its thing, the cartoons are doing their thing, the shows are doing their thing, etc...
Not exactly true, they wrote in Clark and Lois getting married cause TV Clark and Lois got married, deaged the Kents after Smallville, what other anon's mentioned about the Donner movies and Zod. Most of their synergy shit has been tied around Superman since that's really the only property that had a multimedia based on it for a while.

>>92509036
>similar line up
>similar design for Star Lord's helmet

If it's not close to DnA then what?

>>92509027
I know that. It was a sarcastic upboat...which, admittedly doesn't work on a sarcastic remark online....probably wouldn't be clear to anyone but me. Oh well

>>92508992
>what is the Hand
>who is Quake
>Who is Maym

Also if your argument for Mantis being changed being a bad thing is that she could have increased Asian representation you're a fucking joke.

>>92509036
Frankly, the same could be said about DnA's run compared to the previous characterizations

>>92508931
But I like the movie precisely because of what I enjoyed about those stories. Gunn isn't shitting on the comics by changing some things and telling an original story, he's just adding his own flavor like countless writers have done to countless characters in the past.

Seriously do y'all even read comics from before 2000?

>>92509046
The thread is about the MCU dumb ass

>>92509012
>>92509040
Actually it was because Perlman liked it, she was given various projects to do a treatmemt of and chose GotG.

Gunn came in later and then took over. He already liked Cosmic so he accepted.

>>92509076
Well they did give Bane a furcoat for a while too.

>>92508168
He wasn't an asshole in the DnA run. He was a grizzled veteran who worked well with Pete and often led parts of the team. Asshole Rocket pretty much sprang up after the first movie.

>>92509036
Not them but it's very clear that the characters are based on their characterization in the DnA run. Also the Dirty Dozen in space thing.

>>92509078
So Mantis was a 10/10 adaptions since she had antenna.

>>92509097
And if you're just singling out the MCU for doing something that every other cinematic adaptation has done then you're a faggot. You're just reaching for things to bitch about at this point if "reee comics are affected by movies" is the best criticism you can come up with.

>>92509076
Kents deaging was weird since it happened in some Superman comics while they were still old in others.

>>92509093
Except for the fact he completely changed the character of Star Lord. He's gone through changes over the years but Gunn's sticks out like a sore thumb among every version

>>92509116
Wasn't that for an issue or two? They've been light on the modern synergy since they haven't really had much to tie-in other than Nolanbats. All they cribbed from the CWverse has been black Wally, Black Driver, and when they tried to write in Felicity. If the DCEU ends up taking off, then you'll start seeing more synergy like the MCU's done to the books

>>92509140
Based on doesn't mean it's a 1:1. The movies obviously draw from DnA's run

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>>92508992
>How many Asian people are in the MCU?

Drax / Dave Bautista has an Asian dad / White mom.
http://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/04/26/17/guardians-star-dave-bautista-i-wear-the-filipino-flag-with-pride

>>92508277
Never gets shit on for it? Did you watch GOTG 2 before you came here to post about it? Rocket gets called out repeatedly for his shit. An important part of the movie is explaining why he is like they and his growth when he realizes he doesn't have to always be like that. Quill got called out for being a dick too and Yondu admits that he's nasty on purpose to push people away.

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>>92508992
Chloe Bennet (aka Chloe Wang) and Ming-Na Wne in Agents of SHIELD. Chloe has an Asian dad / White mom.

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I feel like the people being overly critical about this are the same people who didn't buy the current Nova comic because it wasn't the exact same quality as DnA's comic.

>>92509155
No I'm just talking about the topic of the thread which is about Marvel's problems. I don't like it when DC does it either like how they're pushing Harley so hard. You're taking this personally by going "REEEEEE stop picking on Marvel other people do it too!"

>>92508451
Hey, Rocket goes barefoot, you know.

>>92509231
Only the cannon Marvel Studio stuff please.

>>92508762
>/co/
>Reading comics

Lel

>>92508907
No one on par with le fat bastard man! The favorite of shills and normies!

>>92508770
No. I like scat.

>>92509160
He's an emotionally stunted headstrong jerk that's bitter about his mom being killed by aliens. Very similar to classic Star-Lord in that way, though he is not as unlikable as Englehart's, he is noble like Claremont's but not as stiff, and while he is something of a foolhardy cosmic drifter he is not as reluctant as Moench's. He is however a joker and an underdog like DnA's, minus the guilty conscience of Giffen's. He is not an adaptation of any one version, but an amalgamation. Whether you like him or not is up to you but the DNA of the comics is certainly there. Gunn just emphasized his mom more which the music is a big part of.

>>92509243
Nova's one of Marvel's best books but poor Sam has shit luck and nothing could stop that

>>92507571
Not Gunn's fault. He just went with what he got from DnA and streamlined it.

>>92509244
No, anon. I don't think you've been following this conversation well. See >>92508879. two out of three examples I gave were pre-MCU Marvel films. My point is this shit isn't new so there's no reason to point to the MCU and screech about synergy when it's been going on as long as there've been popular adaptations of things.

>>92507571
>she's not space cactus jesus

good

>>92507571

Fake Controversy.

I don't think he's that bothered. He's just a bit disappointed that it isn't his character on screen.

>>92508310
DnA mantis was boring as shit

>>92509243
Sam is the reason people didn't buy it. How do you not know this?

>>92508874
>implied
By implied you mean directly stated. By the same person that stated that they were Mag's kids for that matter.

Bova is a lying cow and can not be trusted.

>>92509397
People have been complaining about this shit for years is what I'm saying. Now people are complaining about Marvel. Just because I'm doing that doesn't mean I'm okay with everything else. So why does it matter that I'm complaining about Marvel now?

>>92507571
No shit. None of the characters match the original versions in the comics. The movie versions didn't even match the comic versions of the previous recent years when the first movie came out.

>>92508646
This is what happens when we fucking meme around. Casuals take everything as fact and don't take time to look into things themselves
>Bad=bendis XD right guyzzz
We did this to ourselves

>>92507571
Englehart created Mantis for waifu and masturbation purposes, and then when he left Marvel because everyone was getting tired of him putting the character into everything he wrote her into DC and finally into indie comics.

The Mantis he's thinking of he just created to stick his imaginatry dick into.

>>92508448
>did people bitch when ultimate cap wasn't like 616 cap?
Many did Anon

Would you guys fuck Mantis?

>>92509557

tenderly

she is a gentle waifu

>>92509464
It's not even bad, just a joke. That usually triggers non-comic readers.

>>92507683
Oh look, the shitposters arrived.

>>92508468
He starts off that way because he's naive about how the then modern era Government worked (similar in a way to MCU Steve and SHIELD up two TWS) but in Ultimates 2 he realized the consequences of his actions serving the interest of the US Government and saw the fact that an enemy was created because of his action.

He was also the one who propositioned for the Ultimates to go solo and stop being affiliated with the US government.

>>92509435
So they late their hate blind them instead of supporting a good book. Awesome.

>>92509089
Not canon
>>92509194
He's grey skinned in the movie

There have been more green and blue skinned characters in the MCU than named Asians

>>92507571
>m..muh comics

Dead medium fuck off. This is a Warner Brothers slide thread.

>>92509666
Dislike for Sam isn't exclusive to Rich's fans. Nobody likes Sam.

>>92509519
this. His character is extremely fucking cringe, so if the movie character isn't like that piece of shit that's a good thing.

>>92507646
Man you really have no idea how much of a Pygmalion situation it is with Englehart and Mantis do you? He used her in his Justice League run and an indie comic too. Probably other things. Guy literally created his waifu.

>>92508264
>beaver teeth

Do idiots in LA just not know what a raccoon looks like?

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>>92509589
>implying

>>92507739
>that would take away from Gamora's screen presence
What presence? Zoe Saldana's someone Hollywood keeps trying to push as an action star despite being wholly unbelievable as one, same as they're doing with Scarlet Johansson.

Nobody actually gives a shit about the incredibly fucking retarded messiah Mantis shit. Mantis was Steve's waifu WRITTEN ON THE FUCKING PAGE and I'm not surprised he's autistic about it. This is the dude that hooked Hal Jordan up with a 13 year old.

>>92509243
It's the hardcore DnAfags and Dickriders that hate Sam more than they love Rich.

I mean yes the comic has its faults and flaws (it wasted so much time in nothing and it didn't start picking up until towards the end) but I see the most retarded complaints sometimes.

Like the art for example which I could see why someone wouldn't like but these fuckers make it like DnA Nova and GotG had the best art ever when in fact it had arcs were there were some shitty artists in them (especially Annihilation: Nova holy shit).

Also you can tell they didn't read anything but DnA Nova with Rich, like they complain about Sam being a teen Nova while ignoring the fact that Rich started the same way.

Even that one oldfag Rich fan who hardcore loves Rich and disliked Sam started liking Loveness' Nova and got kicked off the old Cosmicbooknews board because he was reading it and was warming up to Sam.

>>92509666
You are correct Satan.

>>92507823
Fuck you Ben piece of shit!

>>92509876
>It's the hardcore DnAfags and Dickriders that hate Sam more than they love Rich.
Maybe if the comic had spent less time focusing on Sam, they might have picked it up. There are still people learning Rich is back
>Also you can tell they didn't read anything but DnA Nova with Rich, like they complain about Sam being a teen Nova while ignoring the fact that Rich started the same way.
Nobody cares about the Peter Parker clone he used to be.
>Even that one oldfag Rich fan who hardcore loves Rich and disliked Sam started liking Loveness' Nova and got kicked off the old Cosmicbooknews board because he was reading it and was warming up to Sam.
First off, that's now how it happened, and can we stop bringing up that guy and the dude who owns CBN?

Englehart has always been way creepy about Mantis. She hasn't been any more changed that any other comic-to-movie character

>>92509243
>all those replies making longwinded excuses
It was just slightly above mediocre, Nova never pulled huge numbers and even Marvel's flagship titles sell for shit these days.
Also even if you disagree it was mediocre, we all know sales and quality have poor correlation.

>>92508874
It was stated outright, but they were still mutants.

Just like how Franklin Richards is a mutant, even though his parents aren't.

>>92509781
Nope. I'm probably going to send a copy of my favorite How To Draw Wildlife book to Marvel with instructions to lend it to anyone who's going to draw Rocket.

>>92510113
I found it to be just mediocre, but you're right about sales being down across the board at Marvel.
What I don't get is why Sam's fans are acting like this is the end. He's almost always had a comic since 2012.

>>92507734
I believe in comic book deevolution

>>92509422
That's because he's a blatant waifufag when it comes to Mantis.

>>92509987
>and can we stop bringing up that guy and the dude who owns CBN?

Hi Matt

>>92509987
>Maybe if the comic had spent less time focusing on Sam, they might have picked it up. There are still people learning Rich is back
Comic focused a lot on Sam only in the first issue and afterwards it was equal time, it started focusing a lot on Rich in the last ones even more so.


>Nobody cares about the Peter Parker clone he used to be.
Confirmed for not reading anything before DnA and just parroting, Rich shared similarities with Peter but he was never a clone.

>First off, that's now how it happened, and can we stop bringing up that guy and the dude who owns CBN?

Lol are you one of the butthurt people who runs it? How does it feel to know Abnett said he wanted to write Sam and that he totally would have if Marvel had offered?

>>92510317
Correct so much he made Mantis clones for DC and one other comic company.

Also notice how he has no problem with people changing Star-Lord, his other creation, it's all about his waifu.

>>92510441
Can someone post the Mantis clones already?

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>>92509243
It was unbelievable how those same people were happy that Marvel cancelled Loveness' comic then proceeded to cry afterwards because Marvel wasn't promoting Rich.

>>92510488
Here's Willow

>>92509876
>Rich started the same way.
This. Rich used to be called Kid Nova, ffs. He didn't start out as a vet, like a lot of people seem to think.

>>92507571
Sounds about right for literally every character in the movie. I'm guessing he wasn't paid for the use, so thats why he actually said something.

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>>92510554
>>92510488
And here's Lorelei from Scorpio Rose (Englehart's Madame Xanadu ripoff) Lorelei and Willow were supposedly Mantis crossing to other universes or some shit.

Englehart was way into his waifu.

>>92508080
>a shitty mary sue

She was basically somebody's version of Kitty Pryed, minus the dragon-pet and the ninja-skills learned by mind-raping and erasing an ususpecting asian person, yes.

>>92510622
Not only that but she has another son in Scorpio Rose and when Englehart came back to Marvel he brought Mantis back with a surprise young son out of nowhere.

I fucking HATE cape shit

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I hated Mantis in Avengers but I loved DnA Mantis mainly because they dropped the whole ominous fortune cookie shit that she used to have, she was also more vulnerable and pretty cute.

Giffen's version of Mantis was just weird but I guess she wasn't that bad.

>>92510657
No one outwaifus the Kitty Prydefags

>>92508555
Christ dude be a bit self-aware

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>>92510909

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>>92510942

>>92510829
>No one outwaifus the Kitty Prydefags
It's her fault for being a perfect jewess.

>>92508334
Wasn't that the guy that was surprised when DC gave him money when he didn't expect any, because they mentioned his character as a random thing?

>>92510441
>>92510488
>>92510554
Not really clones, they're actually Mantis.

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>>92510554
>>92510622
I'm concerned for this guy.

>>92511032
How can DC be so based?

>>92510022
>>92509829

This. This is why the MCU is so much better than comics: the comics are BAD. The MCU makes things good.

>>92509684
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LeastCommonSkinTone

Same as it ever was

So besides Mantis, what other characters are writer pets that show up in everything?
I'm aware of Starlin for Thanos and Adam Warlock, Bendis for Luke Cage, and Hickman for Mr. Fantastic and Doctor Doom. Kitty Pryde seems to have many people who like her a lot, so not worth listing any individuals.

>>92510413
I don't feel like highlighting everything you said, so I'm just gonna go point by point.
The comic didn't start until only recently focusing on Rich, and that's probably since they knew they were getting canned soon and had to get the mystery out of the way.
He was made during the time a lot Peter Parker-lite characters were popping up. His fans like the man he grew into. Making Nova about a highschooler again when Sam came along turned a lot of readers away from it
I don't go on CBN at all, I just think 2 guys having a dispute there isn't representative of all of the people who like Rich. It's like saying all of Sam's fans are Jeph Loeb. As for the last thing, I don't care.

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>>92507571
I think a lot of people don't realize that Mantis was Englehart's waifu when he was writing her, had her show up in a book he was writing for DC.
So of course he's not going to see her as Mantis, he probably doesn't see modern Mantis as Mantis.

>>92512394
Is this a photo of a flower?

>>92511725
I wouldn't say based, but respects the creators more.

>>92507571
This thread alone exposes how badly /tv/ has infested /co/.

Do you retards defending the MCU even read comics?

sounds like he's jelly his version is not the most popular one

>>92512732
Oh, pul-leeeze! Comics are for plebeians. Besides, Marvel doesn't make (ugh) superhero movies.

>>92512754
You tell him, Illiterate Anon!

>>92512732
I bet you haven't read any Englehart Mantis. She's a clusterfuck of a character to the point that even DNA ignored her backstory.

>>92507571
BREAKING NEWS!! A CAPE MOVIE MADE A CHARACTER DIFFERENT THAN THEIR COMIC COUNTERPART.

ULTRON WASN'T MADE BY A TEMPORARY INSANE HANK PYM, BUT RATHER TONY STARK USING SOME AI THAT THE MIND GEM HAD.
SAM RAIMI GIVES BELOVED SPIDERMAN ORGANIC WEBSHOOTERS!
FLEISCHER STUDIOS HAS SUPERMAN FLY INSTEAD OF LEAP CAUSE IT MAKES ANIMATION EASIER?!
CATWOMAN GIVEN VAGUE CAT POWERS BECAUSE SOME RANDOM CATS BREATHED ON HER STILL WARM CORPSE! TWICE!!!!

Honestly when was the last time a story was one to one adaptation to the source material? Sin City maybe?

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>>92513007
>CAPS MAKE FOR STRONG ARGUMENTS

>>92513046
YES ANON DON'T YOU KNOW
ALSO YOU HAVE TO TYPE REALLY IDIOTIC SENTENCES FOR IT TO WORK

>>92513007
Those characters were still recognizably them in terms of personality except for Catwoman.

>>92508850
Suicide Squad wasn't accurate to the comics in any form past the surface level.
>Amanda Waller changed from serious, competenr, harsh but ultimately heroic woman to amoral, incombetent bitch.
>Deadshot changed from sociopath with death wish to ignoring an order from the woman who has the power to kill him and to let him see his daughter for the sake of a ditzy psycho he just met.
>Harley being in the movie at all.
>Croc being in the movie at all.
>No Bronze Tiger.
>stripping away any character Flagg had, leaving him as hard-ass military nothing
>changing Enchantress from maniac looking for entertainment to vaguely defined elder being.
>Boomer sin't nearly as much of a cunt

>>92514053
>incompetent
>Harley being in the movie at all.
>>Croc being in the movie at all.
>>No Bronze Tiger.
t. casual

>>92507571
>I really don’t know why you would take a character who is as distinctive as Mantis is and do a completely different character and still call her Mantis.

this is fucking EVERY cape film, it's an adaptation AND it's a original story, not a 100% accurate transcript of some other story

Englehart is a complete autist if he's crying "not muh comic books"

>>92507734
Burning Down My Sides

>>92514158
A bad adaptation, made to not pay royalties. Marvel, always the thief.

>>92514158
>who is as distinctive as Mantis is

Distinctive? Wasn't Mantis basically Generic Martial Arts Woman #428?

>>92514111
That's like saying Iron Man being a Guardian is "true to the DNA comics"

>>92514590
You idiot. The SS doesn't have set members, they're chosen according to the skills needed for every mission. And why is Waller incompetent?

>>92508870
Perlman who still hasn't finished the Capt Marvel script with Dokter's co-writer from Inside Out after how many years now? 2, almost 3 years? Dokter did all the writing for Inside Out anyway including the indepth research. His co-writer did a little cleanup and a few slight changes to the girl character which Dokter had based on his own daughter

>>92509231
>changes her name from Wang to Bennet
>gets a reoccurring role on Nashville the very next week

>>92514534
But she's greeeeeeeeeeen. I'm all for faithful adaptations, but honestly, comics have always been pretty derivative with extremely few exceptions. He should be happy to be getting royalties and quit trying to be Alan Moore.

I have a mantis in my pantis

>>92514842
>He should be happy to be getting royalties
Eh... about that...

>>92514633
I'm not that guy, doofus. The guardians doesn't have a set team either, but the difference is that Iron Man isn't center stage in an adaptation about the incarnation of the team he was never part of

>>92514939
>Iron Man isn't center stage in an adaptation about the incarnation of the team he was never part of
Neither is Harley.

>>92508391
>DnA Mantis has as much in common with Englehart's as the movie.
Pretty much every character in the DnA run does. Drax was literally reborn and Star-Lord was nothing like what Englehart made.

>>92509194
Filipinos are Asian like Argentines are white.

>>92515143
>Star-Lord was nothing like what Englehart made
Indeed; this Star-Lord is a retard.

>>92515209
>DnA Star-Lord
>retard
Are you dumb?

>>92515244
Oh, you were talking about good, real GotG. Sorry.

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>>92515295
Learn to read first before making stupid assumptions, you illiterate faggot.

>>92507571
Of course he didn't recognize her. She's wearing boots.
That's like making Captain America without a shield.

>>92508897
It was for the better though but I agree it was what Bendis basically does except, you know, actually well done.

>>92515079
She gets top billing, alongside Will Smith. She eats up a lot of screentime with the Joker plotline. I'd say it's a good comparison.

Harley's presence in the New 52 is comparable to Iron Man's presence in Guardians, except this time the character actually stuck, and now the franchise's representation is a parody of itself.

Essentially all of the characters in the movie Guardians are nothing like their comic book counterparts. Star Lord was a humble man who didn't want anyone to know he was Star Lord, Drax was a stern and stoic strategist, Gamora was a dark, sexually violent savage, Rocket was the morally centered man of the law, Groot was an intellectual aristocrat

>>92510622
>>92510554
This will never stop being funny in a cringy kind of way.

The best part is that the character never became good until someone else got their hands on the character. Giffen did a wonderful job re-imagining everybody else in the Star-Lord mini.
>the celestial madonna bullshit is handwaved as delusions of grandeur and never comes back
Best part.

>>92515446
IM was in GotG to ensure box office. So did Harley and SS, but with a better reason: she's a dangerous criminal, so she is used as cannon fodder.
>the New 52
How new are you?

>>92515454
And funnily enough the characterizations you described were nothing like how they were before Giffen/DnA.
Considering Englehart record concerning his Mantis autism, it's hard to take these claims seriously even if they are right.

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>>92507571
>so long as I turned my brain off to the fact that that’s not Mantis up there
Of course not, this mantis was way way better, the one from the comics is just a lame e-lister (Yeah, that far) married to a d-lister (Meh)
Plus tits...i mean this.

>>92515744
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Trying to save space, huh Ike?

>>92507730
What's your fucking point, your shitty DnA run uses retconned character personalities, don't see you complaining about those, you hipster piece of shit.

>>92515830
>>92515744
Man, I'm so glad I don't like the movies. Imagine having the same low IQ as these anons.

>>92508411

I often wonder if people who complain about MCU being ashamed of the source material are actual literal children who never saw a superhero film beofe Iron Man.

MCU is far from a 1:1 conversion but it's not that far off of any other AU either, and they actually let comic book shit happen like magic and sci-fi overlaps and animal costumes and shit.

The movies could be less formulaic, and maybr if they had a decent animted line like DC you could see more faithful receeations but what big-budget superhero films are you seeing that respect the source more than the MCU stuff?

>>92515859
>mfw to intelligent to like movies
I'm immensly enjoying the fact the DnA is never coming back, and you'll forever be a btter neckbearded faggot about it.

>>92515830
>bashing on the DnA fans because of someone posting obvious consolewars bait

>>92508448

Honestly, I did bitch. I was young and retarded though.

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>>92508237
>MCU Drax isn't well spoken, loyal, or friendly

>>92507657
You prequel memers need to kill yourselves. You have to be 18 to post here

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>>92507571
>I turned my brain off

>>92515496
>to ensure box office
Iron Man wasn't in the movie, anon. But if he was, it would've been like Harley Quinn's placement. Pointless, and ruinous to the franchise.

They'll never top what they did to the mandarin

>>92515939
>getting this triggered by an image
I'm not even sure where you need to go back to, but you gotta go.

>>92515885
>he likes current Marvel
How low can you fall, shill?

>>92516051
And then Harley Quinn became the SS franchise. Funny shit.

>>92507571
To be fair no one in either GoTG was accurate to the original character really except maybe some basic story details. In fact I think that applies to most of MCU to some degree. But in the case of Mantis and Drax they are basically superficial husks and names and the rest was completely changed. But then again that also applies to Hawkeye and Falcon.

I guess there shouldn't be any huge surprise no one gives a shit about accurate side characters unless they were your particular favorite.

So why isn't she green?

>>92515877
>>92515917
>being ashamed of the source material
Never change, disneyfags.

>>92516051
>Pointless, and ruinous to the franchise.
That's not what uncle Oscar says. But this could happen to Spider-Man, though.

>>92516132
Has hasn't fucked a tree yet

>>92516127
>unless they were your particular favorite.
Or alternatively if they're done well and you're not full "MUH" autism.

At this point I don't know why people still see the MCU as an adaption of the comics and not like an AU.

>>92516132
>Gamora.
>Gunn's autism.
>Green screen.
Same reason Drax is grey.

>>92507571
Her origins, powerset and motivations are diferent in the movie, but that's true for every cartoon or movie adaptation.

The fact that no one in this thread mentioned how Mantis/Engleheart is well known as THE worst case of waifuism Mary Sue push on mainstream comics, and are instead turning this into a pro or anti MCU thing, just goes to show how really no one in /co/ knows jackshit about comics nowadays.

>>92507739
Mantis wasn't green in her original appearances.

>>92516191
>done well
Autism, indeed.

>>92516258
That was mentioned multiple times. There have been people making that same claim multiple times. Your post is rude.

>>92516272
At least they provide a reason to stay away from Marvel.

Everyone who is saying that Engelhart is in the right for being upset that MCU Mantis is different, please tell me, what aspects of Engelhart's characterization would you have liked to see? Because I've read his Avengers run with Swordsman, Mantis, and Cotati tree, and I'm honestly curious why you want her to be like that. I think you guys are getting her Engelhart traits confused with her DnA and Giffen traits when, as others have said, they pretty much have nothing in common.

>>92516287
Yeah that's true, I just glanced over this thread before looking at the images and seeing similar reactions. Sorry pal.

but marvel cares about the characters!!!!!

>>92516258
>The fact that no one in this thread mentioned how Mantis/Engleheart is well known as THE worst case of waifuism Mary Sue push on mainstream comics
Literally read the thread. That has been mentioned multiple times.>>92516272