Is this legitimately the worst comic series Marvel has ever allowed

sadly no

Miss America may be bad, but it didn't gut an entire universe the way Ultimatum did.

That's not Marville.

It's pretty bad but there are much worse.

Marville, Eminem/The Punisher, Ultimatum, and those are just within the 2000's.

At least with America no one was seriously expecting it to be good and it has no effect on the rest of the Marvel U.

And honestly, there have been tons and tons of one-shots/minis that have come out over the years by writers just as awful as Rivera, but no one remembers any of them.

Go back and look at the releases for any random post-2000 year, find some mini that you've never heard of with a writer you've never heard of, and you'll be blown away by how bad it is. America would have continued in that fine tradition if people hadn't thrown a shitfit about its mere existence and spammed it on /co/.

>>92500552
In issue 3 she is confirmed to be able to go beyond the multiverse.

>>92500469
Did you just start reading comics like four months ago or something

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>>92500469
>cyclops was not not right

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>>92500469

It's the worst in recent times but as others have pointed out there have been worse. I think US War Machines is the worst. That defies all logic in so many ways. Worst writing and worst art.

honestly in the long run America won't even become a Storytime of Pain weekend classic

>>92500928
Storm looks she doesn't want to be any where near this comic

>>92500505
>but it didn't gut an entire universe the way Ultimatum did.
But that was a good thing that forced them to do new & interesting things that they could never do in the 616.

>>92500986
well i mean

>>92500928
Everyone but storm looks like a cunt.

>>92500977
i feel like it already has

>>92500928

I like how the self insert is in the top left. Look at these cool characters that will be fondly remembered and relevant for years to come!

>cyclops was not right
What is this heresy

no

grow up and stop obsessing over this comic already

>>92501386
>obsessing

It's funny for how bad it is. That's why it gets storytimed.

>>92501020
That excuse would've worked eight years ago.

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>>92500521
This.

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>>92501930
...but also this.

>>92501930
>>92501940
Come on OP these two are part of the awful comics unholy trinity. The third is The Unfunnies

>>92501930
I still havent read this

>>92500469
You already forgot Civil War II?

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They should have done it like DC/KFC did.

>>92500505
fuck the Ultimate universe, Loeb did nothing wrong

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>>92502588
I hate the Ultimate universe too, but Loeb did a lot wrong.

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>>92500469
Not even close.

>>92500899
That looks fucking awful. Was that actually a comic?

Has there ever been a CG comic?

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>>92502644
>>92500899
What in the fuck were they actually thinking with that art style

>>92502668
Yeah, the entire comic was done that way. Very early on in the tech, so it was kinda neat at the time. It looks like ass now of course.

The artist also bragged that it was the future and that he could do tons of pages every day since it was so easy to use 3D models, etc.

>>92502668
Besides US War Machine, of course. With modern CG, it could be good.

>>92502699
Thanks Anon. That might be feasible nowadays. A test run should be started on a shitty book.

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>>92500469
Well, its close.

>>92502733
Some pencillers are already using Poser and stuff and going over the models with pencils. I think Deodato is the most obvious, but there are some others too. Will Sliney I think (Spider-Man 2099) too. The figures always look very stiff and don't have the right balance of looseness someone drawing a comic book usually provides.

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>>92502668
Yes.
Earlier, in fact.

>>92502644
I will never not laugh at the Iron Dum Dum having a fucking metal version of his hat.

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>>92502904
Even earlier than that.

I still reminisce over Heroes Reborn sometimes. Especially now, with the reveal in Secret Empire. I can't wait for Franklin Richards to merge the two Rogers together.

>>92500469

Nahhh.

I don't know. I guess maybe this is how women who love capeshit feel? "Where are the powerful, heroic representatives of my gender?"

>>92501993

You're probably better off watching Linkara's reviews of it.

>>92502588

You are a fucking idiot.

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>>92502668

Couple. Never really worked.

>>92502681

"New and experimental!"

>>92503111

"This is a nuthouse. And I'm a fuckin Pecan!"

Truth be said, I LIKED the first U..S.WAR MACHINE series.

Also, get this: Guy who made it? He's a producer on 'Steven Universe'. Weird.

>>92500928
Storm would rather be in a filthy sewer ruling the morlocks than be with these people

>>92500469
The irony is that this last issue is the first time this comic was actually good.

>>92503500
Chuck Austen produced Steven Universe? Are you... are you fucking serious?

That explains so much about how the show has been fucked over. The godawful Steven-bomb system, the talent-throttling... he's every bit as bad a producer as he is a writer.

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>>92500899
>>92502644
Just popped in to make sure this was posted.
Glad to see you guys haven't forgotten.

>>92503673

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Austen

No, that's not on him. He left after 2014.

>>92500566
What does that even mean?

>>92500469
is it really that bad?

maybe someone should storytime it so I can see for myself

>>92502644
>Chuck Austen
That explains alot. Whatever happened to that guy? He still get work?

>>92501372
learn2read

>>92500469
Evevrything Marvel makes is crap.

>>92503850

That she can go into White Space, I am guessing. She was born outside the regular Multiverse, so it's not so strange.

>>92503208
I think it was one Michael Goetze who started the trend.

>>92503500
Add Iron Man: Crash to the list.

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Silly whites, this comic isn't meant for you!

>>92502655
Anon meant bad comics.

>>92503836
In 2007, Austen released his first prose novel, Like Warm Sun on Nekkid Bottoms. In 2011 writing as Charles Austen, he released the first of a three book series Pride and Nakedness followed by Something Old, Something New in 2013.

In 2017, it became apparent that Chuck Austen had written his most ambitious creative work yet, his own Wikipedia article. [32]

What did they mean by this

>>92502737
I don't care about the writer that much but fuck that cunt for making one of the most insulting and stupid retcons I've ever seen!

>>92500469
you could have made a thread for a good comic you limp dicked servitor of the man

coward
COWARD

>>92503995

That one was pretty good.

>>92503997

I think she's kidding. But, if she's not - well, in her defense, we are pretty scary. It's not the nineteenth century anymore, of course. But let's face it, the Caucasian male is the most dangerous individual animal in the world after the female mosquito.

...'course, pound-for-pound it really gets pathetic, compared to the mosquitos. Mosquitos be like "Sheeit, bitches, you think you scary? We be showin' you scary. You better watch it, white boy."

They should write a comic about mosquitos. That shit is crazy.

>>92504057

...Let's see - that she killed that guy of her own free will?

>>92504078
>you could have made a thread for a good comic

...How? What comic?

>>92500899
>that tiny baby hand how do you fuck up proportions in a CG comic

>>92504266
>But let's face it, the Caucasian male is the most dangerous individual animal in the world
No, they're not. If by dangerous you mean "likely to cause me harm"

>>92500469
Of course not. It's the worst book they're currently publishing though.

>>92500469
I'd still say Marville, but this is definitely up there

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>>92500469
Not even close, my sweet summer child. There's almost definitely worse older stuff as well, but thankfully time has made those atrocities fade from my mind.

>>92501993
It gets damn near unreadable by the third issue.

>>92502737
Mockingbird was fine outside issue 3 and the last issue. But man, the book did everything to make Bobbi a mega bitch.

>>92504266
gas yourself child

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i would guess the worst is probably this

this is a real actual comic book that Marvel printed

>>92500521
Marville's just unfunny and stupid

it's bad but not the worst

>>92500469
christ no

you just don't like it/don't get it because it's not aimed at you

>>92505806
>i would guess the worst is probably this
Why, what's wrong with it

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>>92503997
>Can't speak spanish at all but likes to act like she has lived the genuine latina life despite just being a quirky Guera

>Actually thinks Latinx is a thing anywhere when it is literally just made up by Americans with no actual Spanish education

>Has a very shallow understanding of non-puerto rican hispanic cultures, and even a warped idea of her own culture

>Is chosen to be a proper representative of writing a narrative from a hispanic point of view

Seriously, her work is more misrepresentative and racist than 1960s comic depictions of hispanics.

>>92502681
Chuck Austen did it himself, with Poser and some background shots, so that he'd get paid as artist as well as writer.

For the second volume I think he had a guy go over it in pencils because it looks so bad, but i forget which one is the more developed art-wise. They're both shitty, shitty books.

>>92503883
He moved to tv work and script editing, far as I know. It's easier than coming up with your own ideas and there's probably the option of more work - comics limits you as a freelancer.

Also, he really, really burnt his bridges completely away when he left. Don't remember the details but he'd be less likely to get work in comics again (at any company) than anybody else you care to name.

>>92502620
ultimate janet deserved what she got for being a filthy degenerate

>>92505833
well

it starts out as part of the Marvel Mangaverse line which was fuck awful in itself

and then for the second and third issues it goes to MAX for adult content

this was back when Quesada had inherited the mess that Harras left the company in and was trying anything to see what would sell, which is why so much of MAX is awful (there's an Eternals comic which is just... wrong, which I think is again a Chuck Austen but with an actual artist)

if Mangaverse or MAX or both had sold in any significant number, we probably would still have Marvel but we almost certainly wouldn't have any superhero movies

>>92505896
Mangaverse had fucking nothing on Marville

>>92502668
There was a Deadpool comic with artwork done in CG and warped to Hell and back with Photoshop filters.

Needless to say, it looked like shit.

>>92503208
This is actually a really cool look if this is one of those matrix or omikron type of plots that takes place in a computer or videogame or something.

>>92504266
This anon tried to start a SJW rant, but his fear of mosquitos took over his train of thought.

>>92502668
There's that Batman issue from Morrison's run.

Also everything Deodato draws is made in Poser, then drawn over.

>>92504266
>I think she's kidding.
She's "joking". As a former lefty/social justice type I've hung around them enough to know what when they say "white people are evil lol" or whatever bullshit that they're not joking. They may say it in a jokey manner but it's to make their sincere beliefs seem more palatable and give them a way to weasel out of criticism.

>>92504266
>...Let's see - that she killed that guy of her own free will?
Previously, the Phantom Rider (Lincoln Slade) had essentially raped Bobbi when he fell in love with her, used a love potion to make her fall for him and slept with her and did all of that. When she found out she was horrified and furious and in her anger allowed him to fall to his death. This set up tension between her and Hawkeye which eventually led to their divorce.

Well, Chelsea Cain hated the rape and decided to retcon it. To do that she changed it so that Mockingbird was only "pretending" to be affected by the love potion meaning she willingly cheated on her husband, killed a guy she got bored with and then allowed her husband to endure the emotional stress of believing she was raped leading to the break down of their marriage all because she didn't want to reveal she cheated on him.

>>92505944
Deadpool MAX. The sad part is the art was done by Kyle Baker. At some point he decided he needed to reinvent himself or something I guess and completely abandoned his previous style in favor of heavily filtered Poser models.

>>92502668
There's an issue in grant morrisons batman that's cg and it looks weird but the writing is enough to make it enjoyable

>>92503208
Fuck, please tell me this is good because that art actually looks really good.

>>92500552
>Go back and look at the releases for any random post-2000 year, find some mini that you've never heard of with a writer you've never heard of, and you'll be blown away by how bad it is. America would have continued in that fine tradition if people hadn't thrown a shitfit about its mere existence and spammed it on /co/.
That's because 2016 was a tipping point for the "us vs them" social media war between liberals and everyone else. Now mole hills become mountains because people are tired of libshitters.

>>92504266
>the Caucasian male is the most dangerous individual animal in the world after the female mosquito.
Pretty fucking sure you mean black male, old chum.

>>92505896
This still doesn't explain why it was so "bad". It was full of harmless cheesecake. That's something that simply doesn't exist in western comics anymore. It was made into a MAX title but there were never any bare breasts. In any event, the writing clearly wasn't the selling point.

>>92500552
>/co/ ends up hyping bad books
This. This is why hatereading should be banned.

>>92507329
what's not bad about that?

we're not talking about something made in 1955, we're talking about something published a little over a decade ago

trust me, you could internet better anything than that comic was offering

it's a sad relic for sad relics and the fact it didn't sell even to them pretty much invalidates any argument of its possessing positive quality

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>>92503997
All of these anons just ain't woke

>>92500552
remember that She-Hulk series that was announced as an ongoing, turned into a four-issue mini by the following month and in the end just never released?

>>92507225
gramps no

stay away from your licorice today OK

it's fucking with your blood pressure meds

>>92507502
>we're talking about something published a little over a decade ago
You treat that as if "ten years" is consistent measurement of cultural change. Yeah, it was a johnny-come-lately of the 90's cheesecake/badgirl boom, but 2003/4 wasn't just "today, but without iPhones."

>>92507542
anon isn't wrong about the tipping point though. I don't like the way he phrased it, but 2016 was definitely a watershed as far as outrage culture goes.

>>92507275
I thought it was jews, wait when did violent crime stats apply to the average?

>>92500899
i think wizard magazine actually hyped this as good in terms of rate of production, not actual quality of the art.

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>>92502668
Spider-man Quality of life was a cg comic where in Spidey fought the lizard and a naga woman.

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>>92503850
Here, though it was this other character, not America.

>>92503997
This bitch looks like a white dude, does she get triggered every time she looks in the mirror?

>>92505839
>tfw i was originally a spanish speaker because my dad was cuban and would always speak to me
>He dies when i'm learning English and i stop speaking it altogether
man i feel bad.

>>92505853
I wish he'd go back to WORLDWATCH because the blue board edit of that is a beautiful thing.

>>92503208
Post some pages from this please?

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>>92504266
>They should write a comic about mosquitos. That shit is crazy.

This weeks' issue of Squirrel Girl grants your wish.

>>92500469
Wow look at all those disgusting darkie sluts.

>>92508429
Thats just future America (don't forget she can time travel now too)

>>92509468
>don't forget she can time travel now too
America is turning into a deviantart oc, pretty soon she's going to end up being the one who created the whole universe.

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>>92505806
You though that was bad? Well, I mean... it was, but there are somehow even worse comics in the Mangaverse.

I think a storytime might be in order.

You want it here or a separate thread?

>>92509142
It's not that they're dark or sluts, those are fine, it's that they're oh so quirky snowflakes that fight cyborgs and cosmic beings with the worst dancing in the universe and are only there because their leader is one of the authors self inserts.

>>92503645
>actually good
Being less bad than the steaming shitpile that was the first two issues doesn't mean that the third was "actually good".

>>92500469
Post the worst offense this comic has done. I'm talking the actual moment of no return where you realized this was the worst Marvel comic series of all time.

>>92511439
Holy Menstruation!

>>92501940
>Implying
To be honest the Trouble storytime was more entertaining than fifty percent of modern Spider-Man

>Puerto Rican
There's your problem.

>>92500469

That BLM one which got canceled 2 issues in was probably worse.

>>92505853
>ft. Don't remember the details but he'd be less likely to get work in comics again (at any company) than anybody else you care to name.


>In 2007, Austen released his first prose novel, Like Warm Sun on Nekkid Bottoms. In 2011 writing as Charles Austen, he released the first of a three book series Pride and Nakedness followed by Something Old, Something New in 2013.

???

>>92500977
It's staying power will depend on the next three issues, but so far, I've been astounded at how many different ways this fails.

It's still, far and away the worst from the big two this year. And I bet it gets nominated for an Eisner.

>>92501940
I actually think it's worse than Trouble.

>>92501993
Just wait for the storytime of pain. It's coming soon.

>>92502576
I would SUCK the creamsicle.

...Written by hastings?

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>>92510056
Might as well just do it here, since we're talking about Austen anyway.

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>>92511909
By the way, we're going to be getting just a few instances of recycled art. See if you can spot them.

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>>92511935
Also, as far as I'm aware, there was no build-up to any of this.

>>92507539
Dr. Chignona. Chingon means fucked up?

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>>92511952
>Ahh!

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>>92511964

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>>92511978
Fetish? What fetish?

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>>92511991

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>>92511997

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>>92512025
And people say comics aren't art.

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>>92512054

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>>92512067
That last panel being used as an out-of-context reaction face is what made me track down this piece of shit to begin with.

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>>92512099

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>>92512107
>Man, I bet look bad-ass right now.

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>>92512144

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>>92512156
Reminder: Mangaverse

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>>92512175

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>>92512190
No, seriously. What fetish? I don't see it.

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>>92512202

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>>92512211
>Okay, now that was really sad.

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>>92512228
And so, Hulkzilla comes into play. At last.

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>>92512243
And the saddest part of all: a dedication.

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>>92503208
>>92506118
>>92507174
>>92509001
I agree that this shit looks potentially awesome, so I'm gonna do a complete storytime.

If anyone wants to join me for a first time read through, it'll be here >>92512285

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>>92511952
Kaji?

>>92511439
There is a university named after a Supreme Court judge, who hasn't done shit and even Thomas is better than her, that isn't a law school or a city college to help the under privileged, but just a liberal arts college for super-powered faggots that also has a ageless Multiverse-wide sisterhood solely in existence for the betterment of America Chavez.

Clarence Thomas has good taste in comic books. Fucker loved him some Icon.

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>>92512382
Fuck now I see it too

>>92505833
there wasn't anything wrong with it
it was just all cheesecake and had nothing to do with x-men

>>92512419
This.

>>92502620

>Can't process present-day anything
>Incest
>Present-day

Maybe in muslim countries, but here in America that is HUGELY frowned upon. I legitimately can't think of a single community in America that advocates or stands by incest.

Christ, if they wanted to show Cap as being more out of touch, they could've had Pietro be gay instead. That would've made more sense anyway since he already sorta looks like a twink.

>>92504266

Take a gander at crime statistics some time

>>92501968
The Unfunnies is one of the best comics out there

>>92512382
Yeah, that seems to literally be a recolored Kaji.

>>92511294
It wasn't just "less bad" it was legit great! If it wasn't for fucking Leelumultipass Thi Theta Beta showing up it would have been a legit flawless issue!

>>92510056
>>92511991
>>92511997
This is fanart, right? Please

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>>92512419
You forgot that said Supreme Court judge is portrayed as a dark brown in the comic when she is actually fair skinned.

>>92503619
Who wouldn't?
I mean, the morlocks aren't that ugly.

>>92500928
Is Blue-Hair wearing a View-Master as her goggles? I find it funny that Gabby didn't go with Punk Storm, though she'd look just as stereotypical as the rest of these personality-less inserts.

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>>92514437
>I find it funny that Gabby didn't go with Punk Storm
But she did use punk Storm.

>>92512419
>Bonding with a politician over some cool Milestone comics.
This is a strange feel.

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>>92514575
>Hey, kids, it's STORM! As made famous on THE X-MEN!

>So, STORM, take us through your SHOCKING new HAIRDO!

>>92514575
Oh, no, I meant in the character heads icon, my bad anon.
Is it wrong to think that beautiful, punk-rock black women are God's gift to man?

>spell ancestors wrong.
>Storm having a weird specific revelation that LE PERFECT LATINX is coming.
>The cliché "person name, what are you doing here?" introduction.

If the last issue ends in America curled up in a ball inside some padded room, I won't be disappointed.

>>92508508
My native language skills took a blow when my grandmother moved out for a while because she was the only one I'd speak it to. You could relearn it online, that's what I'm doing

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>>92500469
I don't read comics, but I've seen some people claim google censors bad reviews & comments about this progressive comic and any other so-called progressive topics

>>92514810
That's not even remotely how Google works. It's a keyword-based search and you're pulling in news articles; are CBR and CNN going to be writing articles about how shit America Chavez is?

And why the fuck would they "censor" reviews and comments? Where, even?

>>92500469
Why are they all some ambiguous shade of nigger?

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>>92514614
And she is also into BDSM apparently.

>>92514909
Not to mention, why would CNN/CBR shit on a comic when Marvel throws money at them to run clickbait pieces?

>>92505455
Yeah, because villains actually killing thousands (maybe millions) in one giant attack is so much worse than the finest sjw cringe comic ever made, the issue sucked but it's miles better than that dogshit.

>>92514575
>ancesters

>people shit on America when it is continuing to sell well and hit its demograph
>/co/ in charge of knowing what minorities and women like.

>>92515657
>what minorities and women like.

Not fucking comic books, that's for damn sure.

>>92515657
Sells get worse over time
Besides, her demographic is illiterate

>>92507275
Somalians maybe

>>92515657
>America selling well
I had no idea America #2 selling less than 24k issues is considered selling well. Or did you mean it is good that it is reaching cancellation levels sooner rather than later?

>>92515707

They are buying it in tens of thousands

>>92515740

Yeah you sure sound like a very caring person.

>>92515900

24k is sustainable. Plenty comics get long runs on those numbers.

>>92515835
we wuz pirates and shit

>>92502904
>>92503208
These comics and Iron Man Crash are great

>>92511952
Someone post the Evangelion Sentinel from the Mystique series.

>>92500576
they're saying "Cyclops was right" but in the most retarded way possible because irony or something like that

>>92514614
>you're now reading that comment in Mike's voice.

>>92500928
Holy fuck it's the Corinthian

>>92515900
I wouldnt put it past Marvel to keep this shit afloat considering Moon Girl sells under 10k and its still going on.

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>>92511952
We are Eva

>>92516467
For fuck's sake, this isn't even subtle; it's a hornless Unit 01 with a paint job.

>>92503997

Is she like a bizarro Uncle Ruckus?

>>92510056
Fuck you, Ghost Riders is fantastic

Don't the bitch that writes this make a big deal about being Hispanic but can't even speak Spanish?

I think she's a Rachel Dolezal honestly.

>>92516653
I just posted the whole damn thing in the thread.

It really isn't.

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>>92516657
Nuyoricans are obnoxious

>>92511960
Chingon is a commonplace for mexican bad language, it can mean a lot of things. I think that it's trying to use it on the "fucking badass" sense of the word.

>>92503850
It means at some point she's gonna leave the comic and meet Gabby Rivera. It'll be the ultimate writer self-indulgence.

>>92507275
while you have a point, there is a difference between "dangerous" and "violent."

blacks are the most violent. But their violence is not contained or directed as a rule. It's just violence.

whites are dangerous. They might not be the most violent day to day, but they focus their violence very, very well.

>>92516564
The mangaverse Fantastic Four was explicitly "What if the FF were Eva pilots?"

>>92500928
Storm's face
>I want to go home
>Who the hell are these Z-listers
>I miss the 80s
>This panel is making me feel claustrophobic

>>92516083
Considering that it is selling around the same level as Nova #2 did, I wouldn't be surprised if it gets cancelled at issue #7 also.

>>92516763
I'm sorry you don't have a sense of humor with which to appreciate it.

You know what my issue is with this? It's not just the content. It's the pacing. I tried to read the first 3 issues in a row and every page felt like it was a single page stolen from different comic book.

However, I have to be honest, I've really grown sick of a lot of new marvel, and not just because of event fatigue. I actually loved Moon Girl, and still kind of do to an extent. She was a cool new street-level hero I was ready to enjoy. But the second the Banner test showed up, she became THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON IN MARVEL and every character has to suck her dick. Same with Wasp- you give us characters I don't hate at all, but then you try and make them important without them earning anything. THAT'S why DC has been beating Marvel for a year now- we've seen our characters interacting as people, and DOING things to make us love them. That's why Kamala was so popular. Instead, we have America- who I DID like in Young Avengers- going back and artificially becoming more and more important by not actually DOING anything.

>>92516833

Yeah, nah, she's as white as snow. 50 bucks says she's faking it.

>>92505806
>this is a real actual comic book that Marvel printed
And Kinnaird traced DAZ models only drawing the face and hair

>>92516657
Got a friend who's pr and he can't stand this bitch.

>>92502668

The mid to late 90s was a dark time...

>>92500899
I legitmately want someone to translate this run into an film with sfm

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>>92503883
>That explains alot. Whatever happened to that guy? He still get work?

>>92517085
That's actually the reason I could never really get into Dr. Who. It's like every other moment, some character scuffs the Doctor, and then someone lectures him how the Doctor is the single greatest person in the entire universe.

Characters are more relatable when they aren't special. When they actually have to fight to earn respect.

And about pacing, I don't think Gabby knows how to write a story. Like, the first issue ends with her back in WWII, and then the first few pages of the second issue she deals with the rest of that? Shouldn't there be an entire issue of her in WWII? Make your stories a bit more coherent?

>>92507985
This one right here was pretty bad

>>92514918
I want to crop that safe word panel and masturbate to it

>>92512282
I'm not going to lie: I miss Chuck Austen's big tiddy porns a lot. If he could figure out a way to stop trying to write stories to go with them I'd be in heaven.

>>92516657
>Rachel Dolezal

By February 2017, she was on food stamps, estranged from most of her friends, and on the brink of homelessness after having no success in finding another job.[29]

I guess she finally became what she always wanted.

>>92500469
This is the embodiment of tumblr comic, it's like if Marvel gave a /pol/lack free reign on a USAgent book.

>>92500928
Why doesn't Storm have her mohawk? She'd fit right in.

>>92512419
>Clarence Thomas has good taste in comic books. Fucker loved him some Icon.

And plump white women. I don't like the dude but he is unmistakably one of us.

>>92517603
I would read the heck out of that.

>It's a USAgent quotes crime statistics issue
>It's a USAgent beats up a minority superhero issue
>It's a USAgent meets President Trump and shakes his hand issue
>It's a USAgent battles Antifa issue
>It's a USAgent single-handedly deports every illegal immigrant in the entire country issue
>It's a USAgent arrests Hillary Clinton issue

>>92511935
> Bill "Lord of the Underworld" Jemas
This only gets funnier when you know he's a batshit crazy Evangelical. He had to love seeing that in print.

>>92511935
Ralph Macchio worked on this?

>>92514611
Same anon. Thomas doesn't do much, but he actually has some diverse thought among the court. He and Scalia always voted the same except for like ten cases, but both had different schools of thought. Thomas was a textualist and Scalia was an Originalist.

>>92517814
The editor, not the actor.

>>92509094
Squirrel Girl is still going? Huh. Who could've known.

>>92500899
This is like what you get what you don't filter "western" on sad panda

>>92518829
That's what I think every time I see it too.

>>92517720
I'd honestly read a Green Arrow fighting Antifa issue where he expresses his complete disappointment at what they do to

>>92500928
Look at all of those obnoxious, awful designs.

I also love how disgusted Storm looks.

>>92520324
Foolkiller was so good. It makes me sad.

>>92508429
>Got laid down for the 3 second tan
Based John Cena working latinos into a shoot

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>>92516861
SHE WOULDN'T TRY TO PULL A MORRISON WOULD SHE!?!?!?

>>92520570
More like pull a Chris-chan, the author already appeared on the first page of the first issue shilling America, and there is also the leader of the dyke squad who is clearly another self-insert.

>>92519991
Sadly that won't happen with the current media. The media is pandering to extremist liberals & drowning out the voices of sane liberals.

>>92500469
Oh, Fuck No! These are the worst of Marvel

>Marville
>Trouble
>Ultimatum
>Civil War I & II
>AvX(FUCK THIS STORY)
>The Crossing(Yes it's an arc but fuck this so hard)
>U.S. War Machine
>Chuck Austen's X-Men

>>92514575
Hey storm what the fuck happened to your nose?

It's suddenly VERY BIG.

>>92516833
...being bilingual doesn't give you an accent.

I'm more spanish than this cunt, I had tacos for dinner.

>>92520971
AvX and Civil War I are definitely bad, but they're not aggressively awful. I'd replace them with Age of Ultron. Civil War II was horrid, though.

>>92517209
lmao. What's wrong with her? Any stories? If you don't mind me asking, that is.

>>92514918
Holy shit. I'm too busy focusing on the crap layout to think about the implications of Storm being into BDSM. That's how bad this page is. What a mess.

>>92519991
Shit, Green Arrow would be fighting ALONGSIDE antifa by this point.

Batman would be kicking their asses, though.

so what are you faggots arguing about tonight

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>>92502655
YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

Ulysses Solomon Archer was a goddam HERO!

>>92514575
>*The Danger Room is the X-men's virtual reality training facility.
Why did they feel the need to explain this? Who would not know this already?

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>>92505853
I met Austen last year at a con, since I was an Oldfag we mostly talked about a small indy series he did called Hero Sandwich, which probably would have done OK as a webcomic. Nice guy al round. Except for the wannabee manga War Machine I never read any of his hated stuff so we didn't talk about it.

>>92517749
>Bill "Lord of the Underworld" Jemas
He became an Evangelical?

Must be afraid he was gonna burn in hell for what he did while at Marvel.

>>92522221
>Who would not know this already?
The agender panromantic quantumsexualSocial Justice activist People of Color it's marketed to.

>>92520570
>The entire exchange is just the writer and America stroking each other's egos

>>92517603
>>92517720
>Flag Smasher is taking advantage of the refugee crisis to fuck up Europe's governments, using them to smuggle weapons, drugs, bombs, and US agent is on the case!


>>92519991
Team him up with Hawkman, and let them play dissapointed in you cop and angry cop with a metal mace and a lack of shirts and paitence.

>>92518646
It picked up another eisner nomination.

>>92522277
Disintegrating. Communion. Wafers.

A plotline that shat on Catholics despite not knowing Catholics don't believe in the Rapture.

Also allegations of sexual harassment.

>>92512838
>I legitimately can't think of a single community in America that advocates or stands by incest.

marrying your cousin is the only form of incest that's legal in america

>>92511439
VIVA PERU

and i know that's not the line but i don't even want to type the real one

>>92508429
>our sangre
One of the biggest fucking gripes I have is when people just throw in random foreign words with no reason. I know a lot of other minorities and non-English speaking folk have the same problem. Why the fuck would someone who's actually Puerto Rican do it? Also

>Darth Chonga
kek

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So was this comic made to make people hate brown people, women, or both?
Because I sure as fuck am feeling it.

>>92514575
>ancesters
Marvel can't afford a free online spell checker?

>>92524202
>free
That's still too expensive for Ike the penny pinching Perlmutter.

>>92524146
>Comic about a sassy brown lesbian who punches star-shaped holes through dimensions
Somehow they managed to make a concept that should be right up my alley into something I can barely stand to read.

It's just too up its own ass without having really done anything to deserve it. I could barely get through the first issue because America just sounds like a smug bitch. I really wanted to be able to like this, but it's hard. Maybe it can get better, but it's hard to build off rotten foundations and bad first impressions.

>>92524239
What's even worse is her concept is
>Sassy brown lesbian who punches star shaped holes in dimensions in order to fight the weird monsters that lurk Beyond, repairing damage to the multiverse with music and dancing.
>Has attitude problem, solve problems by punching things in the face


It begs for more, but we got this.

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>>92500469
Its pretty much a Dobson comic.

>>92515900

24K is a lot more than I expected. Even with Marvel cheating and overshipping and shit, it's still kinda impressive

>>92524365
That went from dumb to creepy quicker than most porn comics I've read.

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>>92524430
Consider the source.

>>92521632
i dont think anyone parodying bendis could have come up with a shittier ending than the one in civil war II.

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>>92500469
>Cyclops Was Not Right

>>92502655
US 1 was never bad. Get Out.

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>>92502737
I think you meant to post this.

>>92502737
>>92525739
I'm still amazed that book managed to pull multiple eisner nominations.

>>92507985
Did she ever appear outside this comic?

>>92517312
>That's actually the reason I could never really get into Dr. Who
I don't blame you anon. The show has been in for 50+ years and lately all it does is suck it's own dick

>>92525761
Literally sympathy votes.

>>92507578
>but 2016 was definitely a watershed as far as outrage culture goes.
yeah but that goes for all sides not just liberals, everyone has some boogey man they can point to to say "look at THEM! THEY are ruining EVERYTHING!"

>>92525761
Man, are you really that surprised, we got academy awards now for simply being black.

The Bar is almost rock bottom now.

>>92512838
go far enough into southern swamp country and ty to see if the families that believe in "blood line purity" still exists or have cousin fucked themselves into oblivion

>>92512838
>I legitimately can't think of a single community in America that advocates or stands by incest.
I live in Flagstaff Arizona, where Flagstaff Medical Center is the nearest major hospital to Colorado City.

The Mormon inbreeding is so heavy that you see all kinds of severely disabled kids being wheeled in by sister-wives on a regular basis. Doctors report seeing things they've only read about in medical texts.

It is very fucking real chum.

America Thread with noone storytiming it, the cycle has finally ended.

>>92523919
Even that shit is de facto frowned upon by society even if it is legal.

>>92525488

Two nots anon. I speak cali so let me translate.

"Cyclops wasn't wrong, but he went about it in a disagreeable way."

>>92525488
It's a double negative, meaning he was right. Still retarded.

>>92512099
>I'm just a normal guy!

I'm fucking losing my shit.

>>92514918

This is literal garbage.

Not the worst, but this is shit that should be used for kindling.

>>92525838
With the academy awards they at least pick the best black hollywood people on any given year.

I was expecting one low tier sympathy nomination at most, not a high profile one.

>>92502772
I think i noticed it somewhat in the recent carnage book too, but it does a much better job of covering it up.

Deodato's shit is glaringly and proudly poser shit and i hate it.

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>>92500469
Better question. Has Marvel ever been worse than it has been in the past 10 years?

>>92526762
The closest I think it came is Eminiem/Punisher. I think America is still worse, but it's in the same neighborhood.

>>92500469
I dunno...I've read TROUBLE...

>>92526019
Mormons aren't real, Anon.

>>92504910
>>92505703
>>92506136
>>92506423
>>92507275
>>92503997
>>92516615

Y'all make me sad.

>>92505833
>>92507329
>>92512437

It's swarbage.

>>92511909
Didn't Austen used to do porn comix?

>>92526993
Maybe you should kill yourself then.

>>92512156
I feel like I'm reading the Rock and Rule comic.

>>92507502
>the fact it didn't sell even to them pretty much invalidates any argument of its possessing positive quality
Oh I see. So you bought into the whole "sales directly reflect quality" meme.

>>92502737
didnt they say the Eisner award was sexist or something?

>>92525782
According to the Marvel wikia she inexplicably had a cameo appearance during Fear Itself.

>>92527091
Sick burn, brah.

>>92526762
You know what? No. It hasn't.

I know people will point to Liefeld or the 90's or whatever. But even the 90's had some form of competency that I'm not seeing in a lot of Marvel comics in the past 3 years. I'd take Busiek's Avengers over Bendis', Hickman's, and Waid's.

>>92517239
Ideally it would done by the same guy who did The Amazing Bulk.

>>92526993
Why?

>>92514240
Ha ha no.

The original Ghost in the Shell comic also was terrible with its cg.

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>>92514918
Storm was so fucking great in this. America too, for once.

>>92525761
Oh will you be mad when it wins...

>>92517085
Does Moon Girl do anything besides spitefully resent the normalfags for not recognizing her genius and wait for some big name to pop in for no reason to praise her

>>92528380
she has this rivalry with 'Kid Kree', a child who wants to conquer the inhumans so they serve the kree empire again

>>92501045
And the bottom left. Looks an actual average person. Not hippity mc sway sway.

The most major problem Marvel has is that the writers heads are too far up their asses.


Shit, this is why you need a Jim Shooter to curb this shit.

>>92500469
For me personally, Avengers Arena was worse because after the final issue of that series I was physically distraught and angry for an entire day afterwards. America hasn't made me that upset...yet.

I think the worst part of it though is you can tell the writer is absolutely loving writing it. She's having a great time writing this terrible fucking book, and that's worse than if she didn't give a shit and were phoning it in. To her this book is amazing and the pinnacle of her writing career.

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>>92525761
>thinking that Eisners are still based on quality

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>>92506718
Did the writer really see nothing wrong with that?
That's something a sociopath would do. And I don't even mean an exaggerated kind like Joker, but an actual real-world sociopath. And the worst of all, it's not presented as a bad thing and no one calls her out on it and we're supposed to root for her.

>>92517312
>>92525783
So fucking true. The BBC Sherlock series does the same. Every episode spends at least 10 misty-eyed minutes reminding you about how great and important the show is, as if to justify its own existence. That's what happens when a channel is funded by an unavoidable fucking propaganda tax instead of ads or subscriptions. Scrap the BBC.

>>92524108
Gabby is a Nuyorican. She's as Puerto Rican as I, someone white as the driven snow, am.

>>92500469
Why are they all dressed like a bunch of assholes?

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>>92530046

I just think she wanted to get rid of the rapey background, which is understandable desu, I'm thinking she didn't quite realize how it'd retroactively make her a pretty shitty person.

Otoh she acts shitty/weird on a bunch of other occasions in the book, though idk if it's intended to be internally consistent within it.

She's basically a heroic asshole, but that worked better in Archer because the characters usually received karmic punishments for their shitty acts.

>>92500899
I actually kinda liked it, had a really awful 90's cartoon nostalgia feel to it

>>92530433
Because they are a bunch of assholes.

>>92501020
like what exactly?

>>92502644
>Chuck Austen
oh

>>92530671
Yes, I know that the writer is a complete fucking idiot.

>>92502668
I saw some CG lady death comic once in a bargain bin

>>92500469
Sadly no. They have published far worse in their long history. It does seem to be their worst title at the moment. It's the culmination of everything wrong with Marvel at the moment. Shit tier writing. Art that wouldn't have made it from Eternity Comics back when they were a thing. Snark, angry, man-eating lesbian author and matching character, both pretending that being a snarky, angry man-eating lesbian is patriotic in the modern era. It deserves every bit the ridicule that the title gets.

>>92533160
>pretending that being a snarky, angry man-eating lesbian is patriotic
Are you saying that being snarky and/or angry is unpatriotic?

>>92526019
Wow, this sounds real.

>>92527289
And was at the Venom auction in Millar's Marvel Knights.

>>92525488
It says "Cyclops was not not Right". It' agreeing with you.

Why are Cyclopsfags so aggressively retarded?

>>92534297
Cyclops was hot not right

>>92528001
Is that white trash ho supposed to be Black Widow?

>>92534351
he was both hot and right, but at least she has decent taste in husbandos

>>92534364
Looks like Mary Jane to me and I think she was in the books around that time, but I guess I can't be positive without looking it up

>>92506718
Didn't she already kill his innocent descendent who was being possessed by his ghost in some previous series?

>>92500469
as a latino I find this comic pretty fucking disgusting, but then again we latinos are a bunch of patrirchist machos and woman haters so I guess this wasn't made for me, a comic fan with money to buy comics.

>>92534404
It is Mary Jane.

>>92501020
True but that doesn't excuse all the stupid decisions, out of character moments and general shit.

You can clear the board and take things in good directions without being a massive retard about it.

>>92512144
>it's basically devil man

well who knew

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>>92502737

>One issue attempts to make some kind of statement about the vulnerability of teenage girls.
>By having said girl kill three nameless male characters, inadvertently providing a strong example of male disposability instead.

>>92530046

>That's something a sociopath would do.

Something something women.

>>92534614
>three nameless male characters

And one named extra with a speaking role. An obnoxious intrepid chauvinist TV reporter subtly named Dick Profit.

>>92507225
This anon gets it liberals really did ruin comics along with everything else in media. Is /co/ still a sjw shithole or have you morons starting finally realizing the errors of your ways and are going back to the old way /co/ use to be?

>>92500521
Marville is still in the lead for worst comic series ever made.

A few more issues, and AMERICA could beat it.

>>92501940
This is canon in the Ultimate Universe.

>>92506718
wew fucking lad

>>92535524
>old way /co/ use to be
Lesbian shipping and incessant complaining about furries?

>>92512838
There is a recent incest trend in porn. A few years back it was a fringe fetish shit, mostly made in slavshit countries. Now? Now it's so big that brazzers does it.

>>92524202
Apparently Storm's ancestors are niggers from Harlem.

>>92535764
I miss it every day, anon.

>>92514918
She's into BDSM as much as any retard after watching 50 shades of abuse.
This isn't how you safeword. You don't use words that you would normally use, god dammit. Piece of shit.

>>92520971
Everything you've listed are bad stories. But that's about it. America isn't a story. There is no conflict. There is no narrative flow. It's not a story, it's a sequence of things happening for no reason.
I'll take CWII over America any day of the week.

>>92535901
Of all the things to harp on there, you choose the obvious joke.

>>92515740
kek

>>92536101
Well. Me and my mates do this America reading of Pain, where we all sit together and go over issues a line at a time. We haven't had the chance to go through this one yet.

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