I guess this entire board is too far gone for reason and taste.

Skitter did nothing wrong.

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>>92470031

>Worm

>>92470119
That's the name of the web serial. Something the matter?

>>92470166

You didn't give me much to go on to figure out what you were talking about.

Still not /co/, stop trying to make it happen.

>>92470619
Its one of the best capeshit stories of all time, and that's no exaggeration. Over a million words long, about two and a half years in the making from 2011 to 2013, updated regularly about twice to three times a week, every week.
Basically, its a world where people can get superpowers through traumatic events, and the bullied main character girl becomes a supervillain. Its a lot better than it sounds.
You can read it here: https://parahumans.wordpress.com/

>>92470634
>Still not /co/
Then where does it belong?

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>>92470715
And we get best lesbian waifu

Imagine what this dude could accomplish with some focus, pacing and scale.
Also less body horror torture porn.

Probably get published. It's got the nice action, world building, and self-insert potential that makes a young teen book, with less of the tripe.
But then it kinda goes: "lol what if Lord Voldemort flayed a person alive then cast a spell that leaves them trapped in conscious, perpetual agony for centuries with no chance of rescue? Just because he can. Also the next chapter is Hermione worrying about BOYS!?! ;)"

An editor with an eye for marketability could probably make Worm a more cohesive work depending on the target audience.

Also Scapegoat has a great fucking power and he needs to be drawn.

>>92470046
Long live Skitter!

>>92470031
I just started Worm on the recommendation on you fuckers.

I'm on Shell 4.9

Taylor is the queen of getting her buttkicked
I love this. This is the best thing /co/ has introduced me to since Invincible.

>>92471574
Than you know Collateral damage Barbie.

>>92471594
You mean Glory Hole?

>>92471608
That too.
You are not going to like what happens to her in 11 arcs.

>>92471626
>It's longer than I imagined.

THANK GOD.

I enjoy reading this in my idle time.

>>92471663
It's 31 arcs long.
Enjoy.

I have no idea what this is. Apparently it's some weird super disconnected multimedia thing across several websites from several people that's impossible to properly look into unless you know exactly what you're looking for?

>>92471692
Here's a link motherfucker.
https://parahumans.wordpress.com/
I will see you in 2 weeks.

>>92470031
Stop shilling your shitty not-a-webcomic.

>Where does it belong?
/trash/

>>92471378
It will never be published. It's not good enough to be published by any editor with half a brain. It's RWBY level.

>>92470031
I like Worm, but this isn't going to convince anyone to read the story.

Also Pact is great.

>>92470715
>Then where does it belong?
> where does a novel belong

god, if we only had a board for written shit and stuff...

>>92472085
/lit/ would tear it a new asshole and OP knows it. His only hope to get his shitty tv show pitch project attention and hugs is /co/.

>>92470950
Those "freckles" make it look like Burnscar is wearing Panacea's costume

>>92470634
/tg/ has dedicated trolls to disrupt any Worm thread there. And Worm is not Ulysses, so /lit/ won't touch it.

So fuck off. Cape is /co/ enough.

>>92471574
>>92471663
>just started Worm on the recommendation of you fuckers
>I love this. This is the best thing /co/ has introduced me to since Invincible
Have fun.

>>92471778
>>92472128
(You)

>>92472183
>Even /tg/ who loves "elf wat do" and Warhammer won't let Worm in

Jesus Christ Worm is SUCH a turd!

>>92472287
Oh come now, don't stop there. Tell me, what makes Worm so good? Sell it to me. Because from what I've seen its strong female protagonist level, a lot of disconnected "subversive" and "interesting" takes on capeshit ideas held together by a plot that's a 12 year old's idea of what is interesting to adult audiences.

>>92472492
Well for starters how much of it have you even read? You sound an awful lot like a shitposter so this is probably bait, but still.

>>92472492
>here are a bunch of subjective opinions
>justify yourself to me
You're the level of salty over Worm that you should reserve for when you realize your dad could have pulled out and spared the world your existence.

Anyone know any other good online super novels?

I just got bored of Stoneburners around the second aztec arc
Brennus updates like once a month
and Anathema never really gave enough time for characters to grow on me before they either got dropped into the deep end or a perspective shift happened.

>>92470031
Brother, save it for the weekend. More active worm anons

>>92470046
WRONG ANSWER

>>92471574
>I love this. This is the best thing /co/ has introduced me to since Invincible.
I agree, worm was quite a ride!

>>92472583
>Super novels
>ONLINE super novels

Do your parents know your reading habits anon? Are they ashamed?

>>92472647
You try being a bored guy in his early 20's who actually ran out of good fantasy books on kindle unlimited.

I got hooked on the genre after reading Soon I will be Invincible and have been stuck digging since. At least I don't read machine translated chinese kungfu stories.

>>92472530
Read Gestation then dropped it like a hot iron.

>>92470046
>>92472636
But seriously, skitter was a psychopath and it annoys me how eager people are to shove their noses up her vag. Worm was pretty great (or at least, there's a pretty great story deep inside the million+ word monstrosity it is currently) but that's partially because Taylor is such a fucking crazy person.

>>92472698
Have you read any Lord Dunsany or George McDonald?

>>92472732
>Psychotic girl becomes waifu

What is wrong with capefags? They did the same thing with Harley Quin. Like what is mechanically wrong with their brains?

>>92472750
Dunsany no, Mcdonald yes. Never really cared for fiction predating the Asimov era of scifi though. And I have half a bookshelf filled with that stuff that I got from a big box of scifi books someone was offloading.

>>92470634
Don't be a faggot. It's capeshit and a subversion of comic ideas, so it's /co/.

There's always that autistic faggot who needs everything to be 100% or it doesn't count. You're the reason we get the same "le leddit" and "what did he mean by this" threads.

>>92472732

>Grue : that nigga had no taste and plus taylor was a fellow super villain, hell I can't remember if taylor ever refers to her as a super villain
>Theo : for that kid, Taylor was probably the first girl that ever gave him the time of the day and she's in her "hero" phase
>Clock : that's just the readers shipping em
>Armsmaster: that guy felt its his fault taylor became a villain, that's why he decided to help her. Plus he ended up with best girl/waifu made real dragon

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>>92470715
>Its a lot better than it sounds.
Then why give it a bad description then?

>>92471574
Glad to hear it. I also started because of /co/, partially, heard good things of other people that took the recommendation

Anyways, always happy to see a Worm thread anyways.
Let's play the "make a cape game"?
Someone makes a request with the conditions for a power or cape, either highly specific or with a classification included, you make a power and name the cape and asks for a following weird-condition cape. Its a good way to talk Worm and not spoil big stuff for possible new readers
If someone wants to start:

>A Changer that is their strongest when they are carrying a disease

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>>92472831
in order for this thread to last longer lets make this then a comic novel thread whats yall favorite novel bases on a /co/ property ? personally i like the novel form of judge dredd dredd vs death

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so I read the first chapter/chunk/whatever of this, and while I see the potential I need to ask: how long before shit gets real? Because high school depression shenanigans isnt really what im looking for

>>92472820
Get on the Dunsany bus Anon. You won't regret it. Start with Gods of Pegana.

>>92473158
about arc 15

>>92473158
It doesn't get real unless you mean real bad. Get out while you still can. Save your clickbux.

>>92473158
read more than 0,001% of the story.
Also, 3 or 4 chapters in, can't remember. This is a book, so it needs a set up so the pacing isn't a clusterfuck

>>92473158
Arc 8.

>>92473158
Shit gets reall pretty fast and then doesn't stop getting more real until the end of the book. A common theme you'll meet when reading is escalation, of aggressiveness, ruthlessness, danger, psychological damage

>>92470634
>>92472831
>>92473136
>Worm's writer can't even get a single artist to illustrate his shit pitch story and meet the BARE MINIMUM to be allowed on /co/.

Fuck this is sad. Can someone link me to their patreon I want to make a sympathy donation?

>>92473234
>Worm's writer can't even get a single artist to illustrate his shit pitch story
What? What the fuck are you talking about?

>>92473234
Did the writer shit in your cornflakes or something?

>>92473234
https://www.patreon.com/Wildbow
He has the money, he just doesn't care that much for fan art enough to waste it on sub-par depictions of his characters.

>>92473214
>A common theme you'll meet when reading is escalation, aggressiveness, ruthlessness, danger, psychological damage

Wow. At least when Hotline Miami brought its limp lit major working as a barrista dick out to wave there was a decent video game behind it.

>>92473270
Where's the comic anon? Come on, cartoons and comics its in the title.

>>92473273
I'm tired of him posting in /co/ and /tg/ for clickbux and attention.

>>92473326
>Ten Samurai Jack Threads and Ten Steven Universe Threads at a time every fucking day
>Don't care
>One guy wants to discuss something they enjoy in one thread
>Sperg out

>>92471574
I'm on Tangle 6.9. Such a good story. Good characters too.

>>92473326
Christ you're a retard.

>>92473158
In that same arc she's gonna fight a super villain, then the ride never stops

>>92473360
>Actual cartoons getting threads

I'm fucking SHOCKED anon.

>One guy wants to discuss his not-/co/ writing project

He's posting on /co/ and /tg/ to get clickbux and his dick sucked.

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>>92473326
Come on, just a little harder and you'll actually be worth someone's attention and a half-hearted actual responde to your bait! You can do it anon!

>Depression and Trauma: The Series

If I wanted that I'd just look in the mirror.

>>92473415
What, you mean you don't want to get your dick sucked? Wow, you really ARE a faggot anon
No wonder your mother hates you

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>>92473368
Read that Interlude
RIGHT
NOW

Why the fuck was Weaver's time with the Wards cut so short? What the fuck was Wildbow thinking?

>>92473523
Didn't want authority figures shown in a good light, but didn't have enough non-repeating evil habits to give to all the characters.

>>92473103
I'm not even talking about in universe, I'm talking about the fans.

>>92472492
>Because from what I've seen its strong female protagonist level, a lot of disconnected "subversive" and "interesting" takes on capeshit ideas held together by a plot that's a 12 year old's idea of what is interesting to adult audiences.

Contents might also involve:
>several moral points of no return
>shooting a baby in the head as mercy
>the result of a basement dweller getting powers
>"female rape"
>relateable neo-nazis
>people doing fucked up shit in a way that is, not excusable, but understandable, because their lives were fucked up
>9+/10 character interaction between creatively and uniquely fucked up people
>real good origin and backstory to powers and why and how they exist in-universe
>a villain with dog related super powers named Bitch and a time-stop hero called Clockblocker

does anyone else think the last chapter of twig was a little bullshit?
>you should let us go!
>why the fuck would i?
>because we made you bleed and work hard to kill us and if the people see you like this they'll realize you are not as invincible as you say you are
>oh, you mean my loyal workers that i can just kill and replace, those people, are going to see how i sweat just a bit more than ususal to kill all of you? and that is why i should let you go?

the infante should have just killed them

>>92473548
But he already did that with Dragon, Defiant, Miss Militia, and Chevalier. And besides the ones she would have been maneuvering around were the PRT directors.

>>92473615
>Content might also involve

So a 12 year old's idea of what is interesting to adults?

>>92473523
When creating something, you always eventually run into a creative-block. ALWAYS.
Its impressive that Wildbow only faced that 66-75% of the way in at the INSANE speed he writes, almost early-Andrew Hussie levels of dedication and production value/time
The format allowed him to skip his creative-block though, because the story as it is on his website isn't set in stone. He isn't a fucking faggot, so he got out and said "hey, this chapter sucks, I know it sucks, have known for 4 years now, I'm writing two other big books, I'll get back to ya though! Here's the REST of the story that I know actually WILL have value because that part I have already envisioned and put my passion in it".
That little character arc is thusly cut-short to avoid a SHITTIER part of the story and a break of pace in-universe and in his mindset that would probably bring a hiatus that Wildbow wouldn't be comfortable with, because at that time he had already gotten the rhythm of writing 10k words two days a week and as the man said himself, breaking this would be a huge pain.

>>92473625
Dragon sure showed a lot more mercy when her boytoy committed a Birdcage-level offense and only got house arrest to hide the corruption of government-sponsored heroes. Where was that "you still have me on your side" level of compassion for people who went to her super-hell prison?

Defiant was a gloryhound cock sucker who threatened the ceasefire that the world relies upon to not get completely fucked over by the Endbringers. Mannequin chose him for a reason.

Miss Militia was fully willing to pull a lot of shady shit and sided with the villains who were all about starting a cock-measuring contest when the Nine showed up, instead of siding with the actually competent villains. As far as I remember, her excuse was basically "I'm just following orders" which is not an excuse you get to use when the biggest villain gang in your city for the last several years were Nazis.

Chevalier, fair enough. I think he was the only hero who wasn't shown to be a morally compromised shitsack in some manner or another in the entire series.

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>>92473700
look at this big boy with his big boy pants, he likes his ADULT cold crime solving novels and retarded feminist propaganda comics!
Go the fuck to sleep you massive manchild

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>>92473615
>>92473803
Don't respond to obvious bait anon.

>>92473584
That's only because taylor is the protagonist and POV character. If worm wasn't written from skitter POV and with more time dedicated to most characters I'm sure dragon would be more popular, or the S9

The fact that literally no board whatsoever wants Worm should tell you all something.

>>92473615
>several moral points of no return
>shooting a baby in the head as mercy
>the result of a basement dweller getting powers
>"female rape"
>relateable neo-nazis
>people doing fucked up shit in a way that is, not excusable, but understandable, because their lives were fucked up
>9+/10 character interaction between creatively and uniquely fucked up people
>real good origin and backstory to powers and why and how they exist in-universe
>a villain with dog related super powers named Bitch and a time-stop hero called Clockblocker

i too enjoyed the webcomic jack as well anon

>>92473784
>Where was that "you still have me on your side" level of compassion for people who went to her super-hell prison?
Right besides the part that Ritcher programmed in her brain that says she exists solely to serves the orders of the people currently in power. She can't do anything that might mess with legalities if she isn't specifically told to until the last arc of the story.

>>92473824
My favorite characters were Accord, Cherish, and Chevalier. All of them were either from past the point where Worm was best, or got removed too soon.

>>92473784
>Where was that "you still have me on your side" level of compassion for people who went to her super-hell prison?
She wasn't in charge of any of those decisions. She was programed to obey the laws of the land.

>Defiant was a gloryhound cock sucker who threatened the ceasefire that the world relies upon to not get completely fucked over by the Endbringers
It's called character development. He very clearly improves as a person as the story goes.

>>92473895
My favorite character was Panacea.

>>92473895
Have a bit of a soft spot for Theo, myself.

>>92473584
>>92472732
>psychopaths can't be interesting characters

>>92473415
>Something /co/ related by all means gets a thread
>HURR NOT A CARTOON

>>92473458
That's because he prefers to suck a dick instead of getting his sucked. Shit isn't the only thing that comes out of his mouth.

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>>92474007

>>92473858
>>92473913
Dragon built the Birdcage. Saint was not able to control Dragon, only monitor and exploit loopholes to temporarily shut her down. When Teacher displayed his ability to communicate from inside the Birdcage, this shows that Dragon had to have consciously built in the ability to do so, yet she still just leaves it as a lawless wonderland and pretends that's the way it has to be.

Plus, her interlude shows that she's able to bend her restrictions to some degree by doing shady but technically legal things, or things she knows she would be lawfully commanded not to do if the relevant authorities knew about her doing them. As restrictive as her rules are, she isn't as much a slave as she likes to pretend.

Her major character flaw is "I could fight that, but it's not worth it to me to do so." Certainly not literally-the-devil-in-disguise, but still a fairly big departure from a nominal paragon of virtue.

>>92473837
>I too enjoyed the webcomic Jack as well

WORMKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>92473803
The target audience for Worm isn't adults.

>>92473834
>muh internet novel
>muh moral grey
>muh deconstruction subversion trope machine

Is there any wonder why no board wants this trash?

>>92473973
They can be when you have the writing skills of Hitchcock or Tarantino. Not when you have the writing skill of "Wildbow".

>>92474007
Worm isn't a cartoon or a comic. It does not belong here. You having a tantrum and showing your age doesn't change that shill.

>>92473895
I really REALLY liked Bitch.
Would totally hug and proceed to get fucking punched in the face and eaten by dogs.
Can wolfs breed with dogs? I want Bastard to have a happy family.

The best thing that came out of the absolute shitfest of unresolved plotlines that was Cauldron.
>https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/loaf-worm-post-epilogue-crack-complete.467128/

>>92474071
Other boards don't want Worm threads because they know it attracts autists like you.

>>92474060
>this shows that Dragon had to have consciously built in the ability to do so
No it doesn't. What kind of fucking logic is that?

>>92474100
see >>92473814

>>92474100
>Admits other boards don't want Worm
>I-It's because when we make a thread PEOPLE ARE MEAN TO US!

Or maybe its because they're telling you to pack up your shit and LEAVE.

>>92474125
Because she built the place and, what, accidentally made it so you could contact the outside world if you have the decoder ring and know the secret handshake?

>>92470031
Get this spacebattles loser the fuck out of here.

>>92474072
>Can wolfs breed with dogs?
Yes. They're literally the same species weirdly enough.

>>92474157
>build a boat
>boat gets a leak
>"the boat maker MUST have designed it that way"
You're retarded.

>>92474071
I wonder why this type of people that clearly doesn't like the material waste their time responding to others they know aren't going to change their minds, which is the entire point of an argument, just to throw a tantrum at no one, literally like a five year old child, when there are functions in this very website to request admin attention to the very problems they are highlighting. I mean, do they even really WANT the thread to be gone? Then why are they bumping it? Why not report everyone? See if someone that actually matters will care dude and stop wasting your time.
Here, I found a thread that will surely distract you and cheer you up
>>92382143

But if that doesn't work, please copy and paste your banter on this other thread that presents all the sames problems as this one that I found by looking at the catalogue for 10 seconds
>>92462242

>>92474199
>build a boat
>there's a door in the side of it that can only open if you have the special key and assemble the monkey statue from the 3 pieces you collected in the tunnel
>"maybe the door being there was just an oversight."

Sure thing, kiddo.

>>92474060
>Dragon built the Birdcage. Saint was not able to control Dragon, only monitor and exploit loopholes to temporarily shut her down. When Teacher displayed his ability to communicate from inside the Birdcage, this shows that Dragon had to have consciously built in the ability to do so, yet she still just leaves it as a lawless wonderland and pretends that's the way it has to be.
>>92474125
>>92474199
These.

>Plus, her interlude shows that she's able to bend her restrictions to some degree by doing shady but technically legal things, or things she knows she would be lawfully commanded not to do if the relevant authorities knew about her doing them. As restrictive as her rules are, she isn't as much a slave as she likes to pretend.
Which has nothing to do with people getting sent to the Birdcage because she explicitly has to follow orders no matter if she doesn't like them.

I FUCKING LOVE WORM

I LOVE THAT PART WHERE THE CHARACTERS ACTED LIKE ARRESTED ADOLESCENTS WITH NO EMOTIONAL CONTROL.

THE LACK OF EMPATHY MEANS THEY'RE COMPLEX CHARACTERS. REALISTIC NORMAL PEOPLE LACK EMPATHY.

I ALSO LIKED THAT PART WHERE THEY DID THE SUPERHERO THING BUT THEY WERE EDGY AND VIOLENT.

EDGY AND VIOLENT SUPERHEROS HAVE NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE!

SKITTER IS MY WAIFU FOR LIFEU

>>92474100
if that the case then worm threads shouldn't exist then cuz there gonna be its gonna attract autists

>>92474060
>Teacher displayed his ability to communicate from inside the Birdcage, this shows that Dragon had to have consciously built in the ability to do so
The guy literally makes thinkers and tinkers. You are fucking wrong my dude

>>92473895
Accord and Coil should be merged into one character, not wasted, and not stupidly cruel.

>>92474261
>there's a door
Well now you're just bullshitting because we don't at all know the nature of the way teacher communicated. To assume she purposefully gave her two worst enemies a way to plot behind her back about her is fucking retarded when its much much more likely that Teacher found a flaw to exploit.

>>92474317
He makes low-level tinkers and thinkers. Are you saying the Birdcage got it's reputation for being unbreakable because no Tinker 3+ ever tried to fuck with it?

>>92474325
Reminder that Accord did absolutely nothing wrong and died for nothing.
He should have suffered some loss of limbs or something and get some more of him and his fucking mindset making him feel absolutely distraught that his body is now a fucking mess.

>>92474386
Fucking Cody.

>>92474369
Maybe not 300+ of them.

>>92474294
If any of them were actually likable and had redeeming qualities it would've made the whole story less of a fucking edgefest.

>>92474386
He really was the best.

>>92474294
Nobody acts like this and nobody actually waifus Skitter, it's insisted ritualistically that she's not attractive in the least, and she's dry as hard tack in personality.

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>>92473834

I've been waiting for some bait so I could jerk myself off to Worm some more. No shame, lul, I'm knee-deep in cum over this series:

Why is Worm so fucking good?

1. Worm is good Capeshit. Like, it's not meant to be fucking Brideshead Revisited, it's meant to scratch that comic book itch, and it scratches it sooooo fuckkkinnngg goood:

- Worm has a humongous amount of powers, and the powers are used in interesting ways. Capeshit 101.

- Worm has villains who have a variety of motivations, goals, and who are strong enough to pose real challenges to the heroes. Fun stuff.

- Worm has a unique power-origin mechanism.

- If you've not got leprosy for brains you can think through a ton more ways Worm does above average capeshit.

2. Worm is readable as FUCK. Why?

Wildbow doesn't let one threat to our heroes die down before introducing the next. It's almost always ramping up.

And while the threats ramp, so do our heroes. It is like reading Cookie Clicker, goddamn it feels amazing.

3. It is violent. You might not care for the ole ultra-violence, but that is a matter of personal taste. You'd be better off critiquing it's use of mega-violence than writing it off because of the violence. Personally? I love that nonsense, brb re-reading the latest Invincible.

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>>92474369
First, see Scanner and Screen, he can make synergizing capes.
Second, you are underestimating Saint's capabilities. He could watch Dragon's every movement at all times, not only shut her down and I'm sure he could theoretically make blank spots at certain times with the right conditions, or else the communication between him and Teacher would've been permanent because that fuck loves Teacher's cock in his brain.
So no, I'm not saying that a Tinker 10 arrested in the Birdcage didn't try to fuck with it, I'm saying that a Tinker has specializations, like building WMDs with a timer restriction and function to them that can't be tweaked, not a power that fucks with an AI's mainframe.
Teacher however can switcharoo his makes good food thinker and his fixes the TV tinker to specific synergizing capes with the specific functions that he needs to interact with a previously informed, before arrest, Saint, to the specific radio signals to use to exchange information at what time of what day and proceed from there until basically a decade later they have a single working reliable communication feed. Seriously, you act like this has happened since the place was opened or something. You are also underestimating a cellblock leader. He is a fucking hateable dork, but he is fucking powerful my dude.

>>92474497
I can't tell if this is a troll or someone that actually likes Worm.

I really can't tell.

>>92470031

This shouldn't be here. It's /lit/.

Don't subject /co/ to this shit just because it's related to the worst part of co: capeshit.

>>92474600
See >>92474251
Specifically

>But if that doesn't work, please copy and paste your banter on this other thread that presents all the sames problems as this one that I found by looking at the catalogue for 10 seconds
>>>92462242

>>92474597
>I can't tell if this is a troll or someone that actually likes Worm.
So much response to bait this is becoming a fishing thread

>>92474621
>I-It's okay if I break board rules and shill my shitty webnovel if someone else breaks the rules

The fact you're getting more heat is because Worm sucks more than Overwatch. Yes. I know it's sad to suck more than Overwatch but that's just the facts. Your little indy webnovel has less literary value than the backstory of a TF2 clone.

I know it hurts, but the truth will make you a better person.

>>92474404
Each cellblock probably had around 20 or so capes. Still agree that it shouldn't be such a problem to understand how Teacher and Saint achieved what they did though

>>92474640
Are we fishing with Worms?

>>92474407
Amateur writers often default to hysteric screaming edgelords for character personalities because writing a fleshed out human being is harder than writing a caricature.

>>92474454
>Nobody acts like this
>Nobody waifus Skitter

Two lies in one post, not bad.

>>92474721
>Amateur writers often default to hysteric screaming edgelords for character personalities because writing a fleshed out human being is harder than writing a caricature.
Well that certainly doesn't apply here. I haven't Read Pact or Twig but with Worm Wildbow proves himself to be a very strong character writer.

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>>92474597

Ha! I actually do enjoy Worm, I'm just high af and rolling face across keyboard atm.

>web serials
There's a reason these people can't get published

>>92470715
>Over a million words long, about two and a half years in the making

Damn, the author must be talented. All those losers who take two years to write a hundred thousand words must feel silly.

Yeah, it's /trash/, not /lit/. /co/ mods are faggots and wimmin.

>>92474764
Anon please see
>>92474800


>>92474825
That just means the writer doesn't understand the writing process and just churns out whatever he spits on paper that week to get clickbux.

Never. Been. Published. Think about what that means.

>>92474800
>There's a reason these people can't get published
I DON'T KNOW THE CURRENT STATE OF THE BOOK PUBLISHING MARKET BUT I SURE DO HAVE A STRONG OPINION ON IT
Never change anons

>>92474884
You say that like published books aren't garbage 50% of the times. Do you think /lit/ even praises books?

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>>92474386
>He should have suffered some loss of limbs
>loses his legs
>is now even shorter

>>92474920
See >>92473814

>>92474920
>>92474889
>I-It's really good BECAUSE it wasn't optioned by a publisher

>>92474884
>he doesn't know that wildbow has been approached by publishers hoping to capitalize on the sheer size of his work and fanbase
>he thinks that being published is actually a reliable indicator of quality at all when writers like christopher tortiglioni can shit out blatant rip offs and get them published

>>92475011
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
>>92474975
B-but they make it SO easy to show how retarded they are!

What do you guys think about charged particles as a tinker specialization? Is it bullshit enough?

>>92470031

Quit shilling your shit, fag. Worm threads are even more cancerous than Nutshack threads.

>>92475070
What do you mean?
Give us a run down

>>92475058
>B-but they make it SO easy to show how retarded they are!
Why do you think its called bait?

>>92471574
>>>92470031 (OP)
>I just started Worm on the recommendation on you fuckers.
>I'm on Shell 4.9
>Taylor is the queen of getting her buttkicked


You're welcome!

Aside from the edgy dillholes who get all 'it's not a comic' about it, it's really, no kidding, great.

And despite the length, it's really not bloated in the least. Wildbow has a talent for 'showing not telling' that is amazing. The more carefully you read it, the more layers you find.

For example: Eden. The whole Eden thing is never once expressly explained, but if you read carefully, look at the reasons why things are working as they do, it's evident what must be going on behind the scenes.

Just amazing stuff, considering how fast he cranked it out.

His Muse was strong on this one.

>>92471862
>Also Pact is great.


GREEN EYES IS BEST GIRL.

Also, I really liked when Blake had his change of heart.

FIGHT ME

>>92475101
Plasma, electricity, ionization, magnetism, etc. All cranked up to 11 because super science. I mean if you just look up all the scientific principles and possibilities that fall under that, it's a lot.

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>>92470031

>>92472705
>>>92472530
>Read Gestation then dropped it like a hot iron.

Wow.

Okay then! Obviously, you are one hundred percent in the right on this one. Sorry to doubt you after reading about .3 percent of a widely praised story.

Obviously, this is not for you. Your keen insight is amazing. Sorry for doubting you.

>>92475267
Just report the thread then.

>>92475293
>Widely praised story

Not outside the circle jerk.

>>92475314
That means next to nothing because you can just handwave any praise as falling inside the circlejerk.

>>92473895
Favs were dragon and armsmaster.
Also liked fairy queen, Nilbog and Bonesaw, they gotta be the new triunvirate of evil in worm 2
And I hated contessa

>>92472786
>>>92472732
>>Psychotic girl becomes waifu
>What is wrong with capefags?


Heh.

Taylor is NEVER a waifu. Skitter is among the scariest characters ever written, and it's just made worse by the fact that it's first-person from her point of view.

Everything seems so NORMAL to her, even when she's gouging out eyes.

LOL!!!! Taylor is a waifu, holy shit, try reading it you dumb fuck.

>>92473301
>https://www.patreon.com/Wildbow

Holy crap, he's got a patreon? Pulling in over 2 grand a month?!

I had no idea.

(throws money)

>>92475349
>Everything seems so NORMAL to her while she's gouging out eyes

LITERALLY Harley Quin.

>>92473973
I never said Taylor wasn't an interesting character. I was mainly just complaining about how fans of Worm seem all too eager to shove her loads of issues under the bus because she's a tough girl making tough decisions.

Frankly, the story itself doesn't do nearly enough to actually challenge her views. Characters that directly challenge her worldview and actions are few and far between. Worm could have really benefited from a character that refused to take any of her shit and actually won once or twice.

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>>92473118
>A Changer that is their strongest when they are carrying a disease

Fuck idk. Something tied to bloodstream probably something like Plasma.
His transformation is tied to how much out-of-the-norm work his body is doing, the more stress his body is facing, the stronger, varied and more aggressive is his transformation.
In it, when any of his affected inner tissues is displayed outside of his body, a thick yellowish-colored fluid (blood plasma) starts gushing out violently from the damage and forming organs, limbs and members, these are covered in hard bone tissue of varying shapes, including blocks that can be used for defense and sharp/pointy parts. The liquid reinforces the local area where the damage was made as to offer Plasma a chance to leverage his new appendages.
The organs inside this bone and limb-like casings work effortlessly in producing everything his body needs to be in top shape, the right hormones, the correct level of dopamine, anesthetics, adrenaline and other alien enzymes/cells to counteract any hyperdose he might get from a random transformation. Being extremely sick, however, makes the flesh explosions exponentially larger since it will create more limbs with organs inside to try and counteract whatever he has as fast as possible, with the side-effect of creating some "unnecessary" organs that will "mistakenly" just boost him up more. The growths eventually shrink and dissolve back to liquid form. Constantly getting hurt is an option, but growths will be small and appear for a shorter period.

>A power related with dancing

>>92475343
No one outside these threads likes Worm. Lit sites don't talk about it. Comic sites don't talk about it. "Totally not Wildbow" the OP has to make these threads to drum up attention so he can get his Patreon dollars.

And you give him money because you're too much of a stupid casual to know that everything "unique" about Worm was already done by better comics that were ACTUALLY published.

>>92473803

Fifty percent casualty rate among these guys.

Eeesh.

>>92475523
Dauntless is TECHNICALLY still alive.

>>92475428
Except not. She is a psychopath, but not in such an over the top way as Harley. It's a lot more insidious. She rationalizes a lot of the violent and brutal things she does, and she does it so well that some of the less perceptive readers agree with it instead of seeing how much of a straight psycho she is.

>>92475523
I assume you're counting Dauntless as half-dead?

>>92475343
I highly suggest you stop wasting your time responding to this piece of work above me as well. When we run him into a corner he just find another comment to nitpick on. Hide post and/or ignore, really isn't worth the effort

>>92475439
>Worm could have really benefited from a character that refused to take any of her shit and actually won once or twice.
That's a bit too optimistic when then entirety of Worm hammered home that there was nothing to be optimistic about.

>>92475439
>Unbeatable psychotic girl who never gets a reality check on how shes a disgusting waste of human life

LITERALLY modern Harley Quin.

What would be the best powers for a semi-serious, semi-2spooky Halloween-themed villain?

>>92475523
70% casualty of entire Earths by the end of the story

The worst ratings though are the Brockton Bay Wards, where by the end, literally the only one still standing is Vista, who watched almost all of her friends either die in front of her or switch sides. The child soldier we don't deserve.

>>92473895
>>>92473824
>My favorite characters were Accord


Were?

What makes you think he's dead?

Oh, the fact that he died on-screen like a chump?

Fighting an Endbringer?

After he SAID he would not do that?

Also after he hosted a very capable bio-tinker in his base?

Oh, but yeah, he's definitely dead. The stone-cold psychopath Mastermind/Thinker just walked into that one!

He faked it, you doofus.

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>>92475479
>A power related to dancing.

A combination shaker/breaker/master power that imposes a "beat" to everyone in the area, which is barely audible to anyone besides the shard's host. Moving, striking, or punctuating any motion on the beat multiplies the force of the motion relative to the accuracy of the beat. Conversely, moving off the beat weakens and slows motion, relative to exactly how off beat it is.

If you really wanted, you could name the user Diablo Rojo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_cJ5fvVhiI

>A brute with a glass jaw

>>92475567
>Hammered home that there was nothing to be optimistic about

Are you sure Worm wasn't a 90's Image comic called Wyrm?

>>92474497
>3. It is violent.


That fight when she's in the Wards against the guy with the gravity powers was fucking AMAZING.

The visuals in that were just...

So cinematic.

>>92475439
>Frankly, the story itself doesn't do nearly enough to actually challenge her views.
I think she challenges her own views and even sees herself as not a very good person, but also she knows there's no other way

>>92475598
>inb4 Genoscythe the Eyeraper

In all seriousness, a more restricted Marquis that could only control bones outside of someone's body could probably have a skeleton army. A tinker like Blasto could make pumpkins, or maybe a Master.
There COULD be a package-like trigger that had it all, a stranger/shaker power to make everything darker, a minor master power to imbue in dead corpses or plants and a minor pyrokinesis to create small flames to serve as will-o-wisps

>>92475610
I really like the way you think, anon, but the bio-tinker was abducted before he did anything on Accord's orders.

>>92474584

>Fucking String Theory

It's a damn good thing they caught her before she could activate the G-Driver.

>>92475503
It's laughable how silly this is. Worm is very popular online, where it was published. Tons of sites and forums discuss it consistently to this day, and it consistently lands top spots on sites that rate web fiction. Wildbow takes donations but it's not his main thing. Even though it could be, because he gets so many he has to tell people to stop and shut it down because he promises bonus interludes that he writes in addition to the main story.

It's been fun anon, but it's clear you have no clue what you're talking about. Especially if you consider actually being published to mean anything these days. But shitpost on, you crazy diamond.

>>92475715
Very inspiring, thank you. There'll be plenty of camp involved, no need for edge.

>>92475598
Skeleton Jack.

>random storytimes being deleted for no reason
>shit like this stays
/co/ objectively has the worst mods.

I need a name for a tinker whose main thing is a flight pack that operates off ionic wind and wrist mounted plasma blasters.

>>92475785
The 60 samurai jack threads going on at the same time wasn't a clue?

>>92475812
And 4/5ths of those are bait threads started by the same anti-Jack fag.

>>92475546
>I assume you're counting Dauntless as half-dead?

No, Armsmaster.

Dauntless is 100 percent dead, unless somebody comes along who can break time effects, which Clockblocker described as "It's inviolable. I'd sooner expect her to fold the universe in half."

Seems pretty done for.

>>92475807
Turbine

>>92475723
>he did anything on Accord's orders


Yeah, but honestly, a lot of Blasto's gear was left in Accord's base, and this is ACCORD.

If there was anybody who could figure out Blasto's toys and make them work perfectly, it's him.

Goddamn, what a power. He has super-human problem-solving skills that get stronger the harder the problem is.

Solved world hunger, for real, in a morning.

Can't get anybody to listen to him because he's a fucking monster.

Poor Accord.

>>92475753
>It's good because Spacebattles discusses it!
>That's not a circle jerk of a tiny group of fans at all!

>It rates high on web fiction sites!

Ah yes, the highly competitive market of free web fiction. A great distinction to top those charts.

Keep sucking Wildbow's e-peen.

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>>92475619
>A brute with a glass jaw

Prismadonna
A Breaker/Brute that needs to enter a state where they look fully transparent.
It takes time to get in this state, in which they can completely pick the strength of a given movement, this stronger the movement, the more time it will take to deactivate the state after she orders it to stop. The stronger the hits, the stronger she'll get hit back by whatever hits her next. She could only throw normal punches, for example, so the next full-power Legend beam only hurts like a normal punch to her. If the opponent is strong, however, she gets progressively more vulnerable to get shattered completely by anything that hits her next. Last time she was shattered it took her a couple days of conscient pain to get back in one piece, and even more to get back in her human form.

>>92475833
Clockblocker described his power specifically, as being inviolable. Not all time powers. And even then there are powers that can violate them. Siberian, according to WoG, can resist them because of her ability to exempt herself from universal forces. In theory, Siberian should be able to walk into that time bubble, grab Dauntless and grant him the same exemption, and pull him out.

In theory.

>>92475839
That's good. Wanted the flight pack to be a central thing anyway.

>>92476019
Forgot to add, but

>A Striker/Tinker power that could help the world a lot, and at the same time, be extremely uncomfortable/hard to fight against

>>92475960
I am honestly fucking amazed by how much Spacebattles worships worm. It may just be their weird autistic desire to debate things endlessly but Jesus their fanfiction subforum has their own Worm subforum.

>>92475439
>Literally one of the options she sees for her self-identity introspection when being turned into Khepri is "Monster"
You are mistakenly interpreting the fact that she was allowed to still walk around and that she managed to make a difference with the fact that she thinks she is right all the time.
Arc 30 isn't about Taylor anymore, but this amalgam between her and her shard.
I have a theory that "finally everyone was working together" is the last real line we get out of mostly Taylor, the entire rest of Arc 30 is Khepri, this being mostly composed of Queen Administrator.

>>92476147
It's because Worm autistically classifies superhumans into classes, probably inspired (stolen) from City of Heroes and earlier superhero RPGs.

The power class system is catnip to autistics who naturally like order and classifications.

>>92476243
>stolen
>but barely resembles it all
????

>>92476243
Its pretty well established in-world that the classifications are used for PRT personnel to memorize which actions to take against certain threats of certain levels.
That way you don't have to spell out "Don't take your eyes out of Night, or else she becomes a monster for as long as you're not looking!!"
You just say "Stranger 2!", which Wildbow goes out of his to show that she is classified like that, even though she has no Stranger powers. Multiple discussions have occurred where he has to pop-up and remind everyone of this. Classifications are a way to train humans on how to fight parahumans, they are and never were a reliable way to show or explain a power, for example, almost every power is a Breaker, however, it is the second rarest classification to be used because its hard to define.

I don't think you are correct to judge the story for having a world-building element that makes so much sense, when what seems to bother you is actually the fans in that case.

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>>92476421
Something something three hundred years

>>92476421
She just wanted to make a baby with Eidolon

>>92476421
She was just doing her job, helping Eidolon reach his max potential. Why do you think she is making babby Eidolons?

>>92476460
In her interlude it was made clear that she has other interests though. Baby Eidolon was probably just a red herring in in a 300,000 part plan.

>>92476357
You can dress it up as much as you like but its still a shitty classification system.

"Hey guys don't take your eyes off the superhuman" yeah no fucking shit sherlock.

>Stranger 2!

Holy fuck it got so convoluted that they started putting numbers behind the names?

>>92476421
Crashing this plane

>>92476492
>In her interlude it was made clear that she has other interests though
All of which will serve her purpose in being a worthy opponent for the new Eidolon.

Mark my words, she is a deceptively simple character.

>>92476520
Holy fuck you are also retarded

>>92476535
>She is a deceptively simple character
Like every character in this story.

>>92475070
You're talking about a superpower that is literally a biological quantum computer giving access to whatever bit of the immense helical spacewhale it currently wants to evolve, it's not really supposed to be all that realistic.

>>92476492
The Interlude wasn't hers, it was Doctor Mother, Doormaker (I think?), Clarevoyant, Screen and Scanner observing on a multitude of people at the same time. Simurgh was only one of them, DM was about to do something about it when the Irregulars showed up IIRC

>>92476520
>its still a shitty classification system
How?

>>92476556
>Let's take a genre about unique characters with unique powers and turn it into a MMORPG system!

>The autistic spacebattle losers will eat it up! They'll talk about the mechanics of how to fight a Fritter 4 or a Cheeto 6 FOREVER!

>>92476421
Having me cum between her thighs while kissing her chest and clinging to her waist

>>92476586
I was really just making a joke about how tinkers are considered to be totally bullshit while simultaneously pitching my specialization for my OC tinker badwrongfun fanfiction.

>>92476599
>>92476556
Stop replying. Holy shit.

>>92476620
Classifications are barely a footnote in the worldbuilding and are specifically for the PRT, who don't get much focus. But thanks for outing yourself as an autistic shitposter who hasn't actually read it.

>>92476599
Compare it to something like JoJo where you have "classes" (Hamon users, vampires, Close Stand users, Remote Stand Users). In JoJo you get a lot of variety in these classes and when they fight other classes. You don't get that in Worm. Worm just isn't that creative with powers.

>>92476634
See this?

This is why we hate you Wormfags.

Go back to Spacebattles.

>>92476667
>Worm just isn't that creative with powers.


Heh.

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>>92476421
Is based Khonsu still alive by the end?
I forget.

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>>92476701

>>92476701
It really isn't, and the constant refrain of WILDBOW SO CLEVER SUGOI makes you guys the /co/ version of JoJo fags.

Fuck off and die.

>>92476705
Aren't all of the Endbringers but the Simurgh dead?

>>92476721
You are trying way to hard to defend your fellow wormfags.

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>>92476705
>>>92476421
>Is based Khonsu still alive by the end?


Yes.

Khonsu was the 'upgrade' version of Behemoth, meant to be the 'Hero-Killer'. I'd wager he was really supposed to be like up in the teens, much closer to the end.

You do understand that the Endbringers were just an open-world raid, right?

Eden created them to apply steadily escalating pressure on humanity, to cause more conflict, so the powers would fight more and more, and get stronger and stronger.

They were never supposed to be beatable at all by any shard. But as shards got more powerful, they'd attack more and more and more often, as the individual fights got shorter and shorter as more powerful shards beat the Endies into retreat faster.

>>92476746
I know for a fact at least one of the sister Endbringers are still alive, being dormant somewhere

>>92476746
>>>92476705
>Aren't all of the Endbringers but the Simurgh dead?


No. The only confirmed kills of the active endies are behemoth and Leviathan. The Simurgh is hinted as being a 'controller' version to adjust difficulty levels, with much better retreat and defend abilities, while Khonsu and the Twins are later models, much more durable.

Plus, God only knows how many more Eden built and are just waiting for something to trigger them.

>>92476758


Fucking psychopaths.

>>92476765
>It's another character behind the scene tricks everyone else into fighting each other plot

Jesus Christ this is what a good plot is to you fags? This reads like something Netherrealm Studios would write.

>>92476793
I'm still not convinced that Eidolon didn't create them all by himself.

>>92476793
Is the "you needed worthy opponents" thing just a lie to make Eidolon THINK he created the Endbringers? Or is his shard tied to it in some way?

>>92476793
>>92476765
It seems like it would be sensible to just abandon Bet all together and leave them there.

>>92476820
>Or is his shard tied to it in some way?
Running theory is that Eidolon had subconscious access to the Endbringer control Shard because of his power "to have all the powers" or something like that.

So they responded to his desire for conflicts and disasters that let him reach new heights with his power, or something.

>>92476758
Ends in flawlessly coordinated sex

>>92476832
Simurgh would just pull their asses off of Bet with a Haywire portal. Not worth the effort of cutting access to resources.
I'm pretty sure they are spread around different Earths already since different teams had different EBs assigned to them by the end and everyone was separated

>>92476860
>Endbringer control Shard
OP pls nerf

>>92476813
>I'm still not convinced that Eidolon didn't create them all by himself.


Eidolon got Eden's shard that was used to control and select all the other shards. He could pick powers out of all the ones that Eden made that did not have another host yet.

Since the shards were not connected to a host, they ran out of power quickly, though.

Eidolon also tapped (maybe accidentally) into the shard that created/ordered the Endies. So maybe he created them? He definitely activated them, and waaaay early.

Remember, the parasites planned to use Earth as a gladiator pit for three hundred years. The Endbringers were probably activated about a century early, maybe two.

That's why they were so ridiculously OP.

>>92476820
Eden made them, but Eidolon's need for them is what awakened them after she was killed.

>>92476832
Before Golden Moring rolled around, inter-dimensional travel was straight up forbidden. Inter-dimensional war with another Earth, pandemics from different strains of diseases, other psycho monsters, etc. So it was a pretty big no-no before it had to happen to escape extinction.

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>>92476812
Hey baitposter, I know you don't know this, because you don't know how to read or interpret text really well from what we can see, but did you know there's a character's power that makes her win everytime?! Like, seriously, her power is called path to victory, in which she can do whatever task she wants, perfectly!

>>92476873
>The Endbringers were probably activated about a century early, maybe two
I could remember and understand all the rest that you said, but I don't remember when or where this is stated, or why do you think that is.
Everything else is pretty probable, his power was to make what he needed, and in some moments, what he needed were "worthy opponents" I always forget this correct explanation from time to time

>>92476910
>Think this is a troll
>The story can't be that retarded, he's trying to trick me into bitching about something fake
>It's fucking real

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Path_to_Victory

>Series with this power
>Zatch Bell
>Type-Moon
>Homosuck
>Harry Potter

I'M FUCKING DYING HERE! HA HA HA HA HA!

>>92476956
It doesn't seem like the times don't match up, since Protectorate heroes had some fairly clear counterparts in Eden's interlude.

>>92477002
In all fairness it's the one of the most broken powers in the series and is used to build a huge conspiracy that spans dimensions.

>>92477027
You are ruining this moment anon!

I am almost finished with it. Have we heard anything more on that possible TV series? I think Worm would be a terrible idea for a TV series due to how much money it would require to do justice. Pact would be a much better choice for a show.

>>92477002
>Shiki
>Can see death but it's not an instant win
My god that wiki is fucking terrible.

>>92474825
It takes intense dedication to put out as much content consistently as he did. It's incredibly surprising that it's actually pretty well written the whole way through.

>>92470031
Damn. This picture just became the way I see Skitter. The artist did a good job.

>>92476832
That's what Shadow Stalker suggests by the end. To just scatter like rats across a thousand different world, but Taylor knows that's only a delaying tactic.

>>92477049
Wildbow doesn't talk much about that, no, only that he has been contacted for around 10 or so offers of different natures. I don't remember if he even actually mentioned TV series, only that a visual adaptation were in 6 of the offers.
I also think that liveaction isn't the answer for worm. A lot of character interactions happen when masked, and a LOT of thought process goes unspoken. I think a cartoon would do it more justice, it would allow for more introspection. We can just sit and wait.

Been watching American Gods lately, it looked pretty bad, so I'm afraid Wildbow, in a spur of the moment thing, might think its a good idea.

>>92471378
>less body horror torture porn.
I really didn't see anything in the story as fetishistic or for spectacle. Sure some really bad stuff happens and it's frequently fucked up but it never seemed like torture porn. I don't see where any of your criticism is coming from.

>>92477027
>Huge conspiracy that spans dimensions

AHAHAHAHAHAH! Oh Jesus I'm going to have to watch for these threads from now on this Worm shit is some "so bad its good" shit.

What, do her powers work by throwing alternate universe versions of herself under the bus until only she remains by law of math like in that Warren Ellis comic and she suddenly has to deal with alternate universe versions of herself that don't like being lose ends?

Please tell me its something as retarded as that!

>>92477049
>>92477108
>Thinking anyone would ever actually adapt this steaming turd

Pffffhhhhaaaahahahahah!

>>92471574
Glad you're enjoying it. The beginning of Worm is fucking fantastic and feels incredibly fresh and it keeps it going for a long time. I started out with Pact which I loved as well but starting Worm I was blown away.

>>92476758
Every time one of them made a path the other's path would we thrown out of whack and they'd have to revise it. Loop forever until they give up.

>>92477002
PtV was genuinely one of the late story's biggest issues. Looking back, it's a gaping black hole of author fiat. Hopefully it's addressed in the re-write.

>>92477049
Don't think we've heard anything more. Hopefully some live-action show doesn't come of it. I feel Worm wouldn't translate well to it, both because of the mental powers and the large amount of special effects needed.. An animated show could work.

>>92477098
She suggested it for Scion, which is a lot different than suggesting it for Endbringers.

>>92477108
I will always suggest animation over live action when adapting stuff like that but the money problem would still be prevalent and good luck funding a mature animation project like this.

>>92471663
>It's longer than I imagined
A severe understatement

>>92477124
>Please tell me its something as retarded as that!
Nope. She just knows what to do and how to do it.

>AHAHAHAHAHAH!
>Pffffhhhhaaaahahahahah!
Try not to throw your rod into the water next time you go fishing, friendo.

>>92477132
>Gaping black hole of writer fiat

You can fucking say that again.

>>92477080
>It's incredibly surprising that its actually pretty well written the whole way through.

Well that's one hypothesis.

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>>92477098
>When you realize Dinah's prediction says everyone dies in the very end after a couple years
>After golden mc dude defeats everyone, he starts methodically killing the last remnants of the human race one by one
>Two friends, maybe not even of a different sex, maybe didn't even know each other or don't speak the same language or are from the same Earth, are in buttfuck nowhere in an alien Earth, getting by
>After a couple years of thriving, of just getting by through pure survival skills, after a couple months of thinking it had finally actually settled, Scion teleports in , covered in blood, he is now a methodical killer. He's in his most adult phase
>Spends days torturing and regenerating both of them as the last of humanity dies out from within them even before their bodies are evaporated
pic related

>>92477170
Jesus Christ stop responding. Are you retarded?

>>92477183
Just how many newfags are in this thread?

>>92471692
Nope. It's just one story on a wordpress.

>>92471862
I'm glad I read Pact first instead of Worm because it's really not as good by a large margin but still really good to where since it was my first read from this author I was really into it. It has some really big flaws and I feel really wasn't thought out well enough in some places. The main character has to throw himself into the rest of the story at one point and it didn't really make much sense to me. It sort of peters off near the end and it was clear the author wasn't happy with it so he decided to cut it off.

>>92476873

You can see some other potential Endbringers in Eden's section of Contessa's interlude. She also said there were a total of 20 or so of them. Not sure if that's true or not. We also don't know if they would have taken the same forms as the extant Endbringers in the story. I'd guess not.

>>92476873
>some kid out there gets the shard that can create endbringers

>>92477199
>there were a total of 20 or so of them
Goddamn. Earth heroes would need some serious cosmic power ups to be able to fight those fuckers.

>>92472583
I am also very interested in this. I know that there are webfiction contests so I may look into some of the top voted in those to get more reading material. If I can find one or two more Wildbows I'll be set. Really interested in this medium but I am too lazy to try a bunch of stories with no guarantee of payoff or that they'll even finish.

>>92477206
>Not a basement dweller that masturbates 20 times a day to case-53 porn
>Not this guy >>92477124
Its the end humanity deserves anon

>>92477170
Damn. The idea of there being alternate universes dedicated just to the times her outrageous stunts cause her to break her neck or die anti climatically is inherently funny

>>92477192
See, if you guys were more honest about Wildblow's webnovels like this guy you weren't be such giant lolcows. But instead you got to suck his e-peen and insist he's one of the greatest authors of capeshit of all time.

>>92477215
>implying a NEET would ever trigger

>>92477206

Wouldn't have happened. Cauldron capes sometimes got shards that weren't meant to be handed out. Chances are that many/most weren't meant to be handed out, even. They were mined from Eden's corpse, after all. Some might have been meant for hosts eventually, but weren't set up in time. Some-to-many of the shards knocked into looking-for-host mode by the crash (likely disconnected from Eden's main body and going into autonomous mode) had their passenger element destroyed by Scion, as seen in his interlude.

>>92477221
>implying he doesn't trigger and get the ability after accidentally breaking his japanese waifu figure of a godlike alien with huge tits

>>92472698
>Soon I will be Invincible
Explain this to me please.

>>92477215
>case-53 porn
That's a game changer.

>>92477210

Well, they weren't meant to be fought, really. In Eden's vision they lurked on the edges of territories, reacting to attacks or (I think?) moving in when things got too peaceful. Like everything Eden did (like distributing mass-production/agriculture/etc tinkers to make sure people survived or rebuilt after a catastrophe) they were designed to prevent large-scale conflict, but simultaneously make sure that small-scale conflict never died down.

Need just the right amount of shit-hitting-the-fan to keep the data flowing optimally, after all.

>>92477240
>>92477221
I'm pretty sure anon was mentioning the talk Imp was having with Clockblocker and Kid Win in the building where they were going to fight one of the S9000 groups

>>92477183
>Are you retarded?
Maybe. But what I definitely am is not rustled by such poor attempts at shitposting by people who know next to nothing about the actual work,

>>92472732
I don't see how you can say Skitter is a psychopath. Ruthless? Absolutely. Unhinged at times? Absolutely. But it works perfectly because you can envision it actually happening to a person in her situation. Events lead into her growth well and you're never thrown for a loop on her judgement at least I wasn't. And I love the times where she turns into an absolute terror. It's a great self insert fantasy which is why people like her. And I'm not talking about "lol I'm the strongest" Kirito shit either.

>>92477215
>not Endbringer porn

Does Wildbow have a giantess fetish?
>The Simurgh
>Narwhal
>Fenja and Menja

>>92477258
>But what I definitely am is not rustled by such poor attempts at shitposting by people who know next to nothing about the actual work,
Rustled is exactly how you sound. You're falling into their trap.

>>92477258
I concur, but still, lets stop, we had our fun, I personally enjoyed making a clown out of him by telling him about PtV without a background

>>92477253
Still though if they ever wanted to try.
They'd need some friendly aliens to help them out or something.

>>92473523
Because it really wasn't that interesting. The whole time was spent doing relatively nothing until she became involved in the next Endbringer. It would have been wasted space. Sure those characters could have used more development for you to get a sense of them but there was nothing happening in that time that would have been worth more than it got.

>>92477124
You have anything better to do with your night shitposter-kun?

>>92473621
How is Twig? I'm still on Worm and the premise of Twig doesn't really catch me so I don't think I'll be diving into it when I'm finished.

>>92477305
Imp vs. Heartbreaker though

>>92477314
I think Twig is about 1 million words. Worm is 1.7 million for comparison.

>>92477261

She's a result of her circumstances, I'd say. She started the story in a really malleable state, given her isolation, her naivete, and the fact that she was an adolescent. She had certain elements of her personality already set, but there were a lot of way things could have gone. She just ended up with a lot of villains to take lessons from, and few heroes.

I mean, Grue, Lung, and Bakuda are probably all pretty responsible for her focus on reputation and causing fear. Tattletale basically forced a belief in the unwritten rules on her. Coil taught her a shit-ton about gaining and keeping power. Jack Slash taught her to manipulate people, and the further advantages of soft power.

She wasn't screwed from the start or anything, but the company she kept kind of made it hard for a person like her to end up as anything but a minor terror.

>>92477326
I still maintain that Taylor's biggest mistake was joining the Undersiders.

>>92477270
Please keep making a clown out of me, I'm enjoying it. How does context help the horribly written writer fiat power?

>>92477316
I'm really glad that was left as a side note because I wouldn't have cared that much. Maybe something for a side story at a later date but not something to be the main focus. At least that's what I think.

>>92477305
>The whole time was spent doing relatively nothing until she became involved in the next Endbringer.
No it wasn't. She said herself the whole time she was forming connections, getting contact with villains, cleaning up cities and maneuvering around pissed off directors. A procedural type arc about them against some villains would have been great to flesh out the Wards and give us time to look at the Weaver persona she adopted which she pretty much cast off immediately after S9000. And since Taylor's personal identity is one of Worm's most pervasive themes that could only help.
Plus. >>92477316

>>92477305

The big problem for me was that the setup around that whole area of the story was clearly going for something with Weaver being a trouble-shooter of the villains that weren't playing ball, while also sparring with the PRT, building bridges between the two sides of the law, training for Endbringer fights, searching for the S9, and ideally getting together people to stop the end of the world. There was a fuck-ton of really great setup on both sides of the Behemoth fight, but it just didn't get carried through.

Not that I'm really against the time-skip in theory. A lot of the pacing of Worm was based on the revelation of the ever-bigger threats present in the world and the parceling out of the secrets behind the setting. By the time the time-skip comes around there were only a handful of revelations left, and going down to more street-level threats again would have killed the rising tension.

I really think the biggest problem with the time-skip is the stuff that came before. It was hinting at stuff that never happened, or at least happened off-screen. If that space had been preparing for the time-skip instead it would have gone down a lot smoother.

>>92477339
Yeah probably in a sense of rational decision making but in the end being apart of the Undersiders made her more prepared and more experienced than most of the Wards.

I love Worm a lot but I really wish I had a story just like it but it didn't escalate to absurd levels. I'm not saying the escalation was bad at all, I liked it the whole way through I'm just saying that personally I would have liked more if there were no Endbringers and Scion and we could have seen the adventures of a girl thrust into supervillainly trying to balance it and her life and where it takes her. I want to see a less bleak world is kind of what I'm saying. I want to see how Taylor would have grown in a world without a timer on it.

>>92477339

I'm not sure, myself. I think a lot of it depends on what sort of situation you're looking for her to get into. After getting her power she was a pretty broken person, so whatever happened she'd need to build herself up into something or other. The Undersiders turned her into a villain, but they also gave her friendship and confidence. How would she have ended up if she'd joined the Wards? I figure the whole Sophia/Shadow Stalker thing would have been a big hurdle, and her natural dislike of institutional authority would mean she'd clash with someone like Piggot, if she could even bring herself to join up in the first place. Staying independent would have probably led her down a pretty dark road, too, given her natural proclivities at that point.

I think that given where she was by the time canon rolled around, her best bet would have been teaming up with another independent hero who could teach her the ropes and give her the chance to improve her abilities while steering her away from excesses.

>>92477351
Sure you may be right but I'm just speaking personally when I say maneuvering around pissed off directors would have been boring as fuck and I would have disliked it especially more when it was all for naught when the shit popped off.

>>92477369
>By the time the time-skip comes around there were only a handful of revelations left, and going down to more street-level threats again would have killed the rising tension.
I think it would have helped at that point. The time skip was right after coming down from the Behemoth fight and shot up again. At that point I still weary from what had just happened one arc ago.

>>92477412
I like that sort of thing. The reason Arc 20 and 22 are my favorite. The characters were more interesting than lore and plot.

>>92477339
What would you prefer Taylor do? The Wards are right out due to Sophia, the gangs are obviously out and New Wave would endanger her father. Uber and Leet are clowns. She'd probably be killed as an independent.

The way I see it, the only other options are Faultline and maybe creating a new independent team.

>>92477375
>personally I would have liked more if there were no Endbringers and Scion and we could have seen the adventures of a girl thrust into supervillainly trying to balance it and her life and where it takes her.

I'd like to see something like that too, but in he case of Worm one of the main conceits of the setting was that the only way society could survive the existence of parahumans was the big, uniting threats + the presence of Cauldron. Even then it was a downward slide. Trickster went into that somewhat in the last (second last) chapter of the Migration arc.

>>92477339
Nope. She got laid because of it.

>>92477375
>I would have liked more if there were no Endbringers and Scion and we could have seen the adventures of a girl thrust into supervillainly trying to balance it and her life and where it takes her
Yeah that's pretty much what I was thinking too. But also the Behemoth battle was pretty great.

>>92477414

Maybe. Personally I think an interlude arc would have worked the best, plus re-jiggering arcs 21-23 to something that would make the time-skip more logical. I mean, there was the Wards' arc after Leviathan, and the Travelers' arc just before Echidna. Having an interlude arc before or after a big threat is something Worm already did.

So... I dunno, change up arcs 21-23 (maybe move some of the Weaver stuff there instead of arc 25), have the Behemoth fight mostly the same, then an interlude arc instead of arc 25 (which could include the timeskip, maybe), then shove some of the stuff covered in arc 25 into the first-half of arc 26 while toning down the S9K stuff a bit.

I think it'd work, anyway.

>>92477439
I think that was just because the world was taking irreparable damage at the hands of the Endbringers. Major cities would be lost causing a cascade down the entire infrastructure of civilization. If there were no Endbringers, and Scion didn't go crazy I think the world would have been fine. There would still be S level threats sure but they wouldn't be as severe as a steady stream of devastation as a result of Endbringer attack. And there would always be hope that a hero would come along with the powers necessary to end threats like the Sleeper and S9. Of course I'm far more optimistic than Wildbow is so any story at his hands is probably going to escalate to world ending level.

>>92477489
That could work. Maybe a Chicago Wards interlude arc. Do the Weaver stuff from the outside. I dunno.

>>92474584
>>92475736
Would have been an amazing character in another universe of this world. I would have loved to see Skitter and gang fight this absolute madwoman before she pushes the goddamn moon out of orbit. You could write a whole side story about her.

>>92477490

Well, I'm more talking about parahumans' place in society rather than the level of damage caused by S-class threats. Without Endbringers and other shit scaring the fuck out of governments all over the world, I doubt most of them would accept parahumans as vigilante heroes doing what they please. Likely the unwritten rules wouldn't be a thing, and both villains and heroes would play hardball a lot more. It would still be dark, but just a different kind of dark.

My guess is that the government would have tried to crack down harder, earlier (especially without Cauldron), and it would have worked for a while. More organized heroes with more oversight. But the rising number of parahumans in general (and their aggressive nature) would make things untenable in the long term. The fact that shards' just move on once their host dies, and bud after they have enough data, would mean that you could never get the numbers down. They'd just keep rising, and the more contentious the government made the relationship early on, the worse that escalation would be for society.

>>92477577
Most cartoon superhero world's manage ok. Why does the Wormverse have to be such a dick?

>>92474386
Except for the fact that humans would never live up to his ridiculous standards and any system with him in power would function well but absolutely suck to live in.

>>92477536

Hmm... there was already a Wards arc, so another might be too predictable, or too much repetition. But at the same time you'd be unlikely to get a better introduction to the characters, especially since they were part of Weavers' chosen team to duke it out with the S9K. At that point, though the story had escalated a lot. Having a Protectorate interlude arc might work better. Give the big heroes like Revel or Rime (wait, was she dead by that point? Did Behemoth kill her?) some attention, tie things into the theme of escalating conflict. Show more of the behind-the-scenes stuff that Weaver was (supposedly) dealing with.

>>92474497
>Worm has a humongous amount of powers, and the powers are used in interesting ways
One of the best things about it. None of that "he's strong and uhhhh he can fly I guess" bullshit. Really nuanced and specific powers that are hard to master and really interesting to see work and play off eachother. It's more than smashing action figures together.

>It is like reading Cookie Clicker, goddamn it feels amazing
Slap that on the back of the book

>>92477411
>>92477438
>Sophia
>institution
Definitely a problem, but Taylor makes a big show of swallowing her pride to do the right thing, when she actually holds onto it to do the wrong thing. A bunch of wrong things.

Think through it for a second. If Taylor had actually swallowed her pride, she would have joined the Wards. But she dismissed it as an option entirely because she had negative encounters with them (which ironically pale next to the things Coil and Regent have done) and because she thought she could save Dinah on her own. The better decision would have been to join the Wards and share as much information on Coil as she could, barring any identities. More action would have been taken against him if the heroes knew what he was up to, maybe to the point that more heroes would be called in.

Sophia might still be a bitch to her if what Taylor tells them isn't enough for definitive action to be taken, but if anything that would foster a stronger sense of camaraderie with the rest of the Wards, who also hate Sophia and would sympathize with anyone who was bullied by her. Sophia couldn't actually do anything to Taylor except be mean, because Taylor would be under protection and Wards are monitored.

Taylor would have also developed better relationships with genuinely decent heroes. And I know the heroes aren't perfect, but if she's willing to forgive villains who are not so bad she should definitely be willing to forgive heroes who aren't so bad.

>>92477600

Well, it's part of the premise, the idea that a world full of super-people couldn't survive in the way our modern world does. Without the government having a monopoly on force, you can't have a nation-state. When powers are handed out to otherwise normal people, enough power to defy the government at least on the local level, they're going to do it. Not all, but enough.

Now, it doesn't have to inevitably look like Worm. Worm is, after all, a consequence of the entities doing their thing. A world where powers were handed up by benevolent aliens performing a secret societal uplift would look a lot different.

But any way you slice it, you can't get a capes-and-robbers world of dark alleys, bank robberies, and spandex costumes without some kind of author fiat.

>>92477618
Oh, and Taylor would get some much needed goddamn therapy.

>>92477604
Oh yeah that's actually perfect and more along the lines of what I'd like to see but mostly I'd like to see Weaver interact more with the heroes since they were mostly sidelined in relation to her almost immediately.

>>92475070
I think it's too specific yeah only because it's something that would be very difficult for the tinker to get started out doing so it wouldn't be beneficial as a way to save his life. The tinker may have a talent in it but choose something a bit more accessible as the main focus. Like movement and delivery of light energy or something That's something you can bullshit a flashlight into.

>>92477604
>so another might be too predictable, or too much repetition
you think doctor? dorp darp NERD

>>92475345
>And I hated contessa
She has an awesome power I wish was more utilized. Yeah it's bullshit but it's bullshit in a way that really works. She could have been a good stand alone villain.

>>92477659
>I think it's too specific
It's actually very broad.

>>92477640
The problem with that is that humans tend toward status quo and stability. It's how nations formed in the first place. It's how nations continue to exist. Having a monopoly on force isn't what holds a nation together. Too many nations that rely on the forte mane approach have gone the way of the dinosaur.

If you randomly dish out powers 99 percent of people aren't going to try and overthrow the government. They know better than to do that. Unless you keep rolling snakeeyes on the random power distribution pool superhumans will tend to keep a world MORE toward a status quo, not less in spite of what Warren Ellis would want to say.

>>92473803
Palm trees in new england, heh.

>>92477618
>Definitely a problem, but Taylor makes a big show of swallowing her pride to do the right thing, when she actually holds onto it to do the wrong thing. A bunch of wrong things.

I think it's less an issue of her pride and more an issue of her morals and life-experience. At least on the scale you're talking about. It wasn't pride that made her believe that institutions were bureaucratic, inefficient, and inherently corrupt (or at least corruptable). It was her life experience, and what she believed was 'right'. Witness how she had no real problem with parahuman feudalism, and genuinely seemed to believe she did more good than harm as a warlord. That indicates a pretty deep-down lack of respect and esteem for the government.

>Taylor would have also developed better relationships with genuinely decent heroes. And I know the heroes aren't perfect, but if she's willing to forgive villains who are not so bad she should definitely be willing to forgive heroes who aren't so bad.

Well, on this subject, take a look at how the Wards in canon turned out. They were arguably in a worse place mentally than the Undersiders. Aegis and Gallant we can't know, due to how early they died, but all the others were pretty messed up. Clockblocker was angry all the time and felt impotent to help the city, wanting to toss away everything about being normal to fight more crime. Vista was a total fatalist, and genuinely believed she'd die soon, and it would be horrible. Kid Win had no real confidence, and he was pretty withdrawn. Also notably he didn't seem bothered by what was happening to the city, which was pretty fucked up. Flechette... left the Wards entirely to serve as the right-hand-submissive of a warlady villain. That's how little social connection she could find inside the Wards. Chariot was a literal spy for Coil. And Shadow Stalker... don't need to say, there.

>>92470715
>Its one of the best capeshit stories of all time, and that's no exaggeration
lol

also lol at the implication length and regularity make the actual text story any better

>>92471574
>since Invincible.
This explains so, so much about these threads.

>>92476667
It's really strange that you use Jojo as an example for something Worm doesn't do when I would say Jojo and Worm have pretty much the same ethos when it comes to powers and use them in very similar ways.

>>92476832
I'm sure there were Endbringers on other worlds since Eden is a multidimensional being like Scion and thusly, would account for dimension hopping shards going out.

>>92477774
Hey, Edgefags gonna Edge.

>>92477760
If anything its a mark against Worm. It's easy to see that if the writer spent a little more time rewriting some chapters things would flow a lot better.


>>92477786
Dont' know all that much about Worm (and honestly from what I've seen I'm not all that curious) but what good fights does Worm have? I remember even when JoJo went full retard it still had interesting fights.

>>92476872
Remember when everyone thought that it was possible that Skitter would have a second trigger event and gain the ability to control the Enbringers?

>>92477716
>If you randomly dish out powers 99 percent of people aren't going to try and overthrow the government
But that's not how powers in Worm are distributed. People who trigger are usually those who aren't in good headspaces. Compound that with the shard conflict drive and there'd be far more than 1% of parahumans trying to rock the boat.

>>92477823
>what good fights does Worm have?
My favorites were against Behemoth, the Butcher, and Skitter escaping from Coil's soldiers.

>>92477716

I think it's more appropriate say that humans FIND a status-quo, but that status-quo doesn't need to be the one we have now. Most of why we have the society we have is that it provides a better quality of life and generally assures the survival of the majority.

Oh, thought of a good analogy. Imagine a world in which a certain segment of the population had a gun that couldn't be taken away. Some got a pistol, some rifles or shotgun, some got a GAU-8, some got a Paris Gun. Now that world is going to look a lot different depending on the proportions (who gets what gun, and how many people have them), and even more different if some people get an in-brain super-computer instead of a gun, or a built-in jet engine, or whatever. But by and large people aren't going to NOT use their powers. How are police going to arrest the dude with a GAU-8 if he doesn't want to let them? How are you gonna stop brain-computer guy from manipulating the stock market to his will?

My point is that the government having a monopoly on force isn't about repression or anything. It's about the moral authority to arrest and try people, to uphold the laws. When you get a world where some portion of the population has the power to just flip off the government and not pay the price for it, the government is on pretty thin ice.

>>92477740
>That indicates a pretty deep-down lack of respect and esteem for the government.
Which is the point I was making. She makes a big show of swallowing her pride, but doesn't. She doubles down on her biases.

>Wards
Clockblocker made peace with Weld and his dad got healed and he promised to let go of his anger, Flechette only left after Cauldron was revealed and she fell in love with Parian, Vista let go of her fatalism after her talk with Weld, and Kid Win was making way towards discovering his specialty and gaining confidence. Chariot was a known quantity, being found out by Kid Win before the guy could start spying. Shadow Stalker would either stay and not be as much of a problem for the reasons I outlined earlier, or the Undersiders would still capture her and she would be sent away because of Regent.

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>>92477215
>case-53 porn
>yfw it almost certainly exists

>>92475293
To be fair Worm is fucking massive, so .3 percent is definitely enough to gauge whether you like the writing style, tone, etc. of the story.

>>92477856
> genuinely seemed to believe she did more good than harm as a warlord
>That indicates a pretty deep-down lack of respect and esteem for the government.
But there's the fact that she DID do more good as a warlord because she was stopping villains and feeding people whereas the heroes were being completely ineffective. That's not pride its pure evidence of their failures from her point of view and it was rather justified.

>>92477321
How the fuck did he get that far this fast

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>>92477640
Is Earth Bet the Armstrong ideal?

>>92477577
In my mind I was imagining the world eventually reaching My Hero Academia where everyone has powers but I realized that it would actually be that everyone has powers but they're all super powerful powers since they've passed through so many iterations, growing all the time. I'd be really interested in what kind of world that would be. Since I'm an optimist I am imagining humans colonizing other worlds and planets at an accelerated rate and there being incredible territory disputes between planets and worlds as the leaders of said worlds are the most powerful capes. Basically Kill Six Billion Demons with a million demiurges and no order.

Maybe what would be more likely is that a villain gets One Punch Man level powers and is crazy enough to just break the earth in half before anyone can do anything about it.

>>92477823
>if the writer spent a little more time rewriting some chapters things would flow a lot better
The author is doing a rewrite. I do agree the fast pace lead to some dumb writing decisions, though in my opinion most of them are only noticeable 2/3 of the way through.

>what good fights does Worm have?
Leviathan, Coil escape.

>>92477856
>Which is the point I was making. She makes a big show of swallowing her pride, but doesn't. She doubles down on her biases.

It wasn't pride, though. She wasn't proud of not trusting the government, she just didn't trust the government. It's not swallowing your pride to go against your beliefs, at least not unless you have some reason to believe you're actually wrong. Taylor, arguably, wasn't wrong. No pride involved. Hell, Taylor pretty much didn't HAVE any pride to swallow, especially not early in canon. She had anger, resentment, and distrust, but not pride.

In some ways I'd say that the only way she could even allow herself to join a group was the belief that she wasn't really joining them, that it was totally an infiltration. A degree of separation that allowed her to go around her issues, because she really couldn't go through them at that point.

>Clockblocker, Flechette, Vista, Kid Win

Those are all just wrong. Or at least missing the point. Clockblocker and Vista, especially, didn't get any better. They talked to Weld, for sure, but by the time Yamada's interlude came up they were doing WORSE, not better, and there's no indication through the rest of the story that they really improved. Hell, by the end the only one left alive out of all of them was Vista. As for Chariot and Shadow Stalker, the point there is that they wouldn't help make connections with Taylor, and Flechette served as an example of how that might have gone. Despite all these good things you have to say about the Wards, she still left. In fact, even before she learned about Cauldron she described Parian (someone outside the system) as the only good thing in her life.

Altogether not a good indication among the bunch that Taylor would have thrived there.