>Cracks people's skulls in with no remorse. >Sternly

>>92389242
>trying to over analyze a post apocalyptic sociopathic tyrant

this is some shit posting

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>>92389242
>why isn't rape allowed?

>>92389242
Crackin' folks in the skull serves a purpose.
Rape is just recreational activity. If you're gonna get your dick wet 1. Do it off the damn clock and 2. Have enough of a god damn personality that the pussy wants it.

>>92389424
this. op is a retard, if you actually read the comics you'll realize Negan is fucked up in the head but he still has some weird code of honor. he only kills to keep those under his boot in line. its not like he's frickin' Leatherface going around murdering everyone and is also super anti rape.

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>>92389424
>>92389502

Well rape has been proven to be an effective form of punishment all throughout history.

>>92389242
Im with you OP.
It wasn't even Negan that made me drop the book, it was all the manchildren and edgy fourteen year olds constantly circle jerking over how great and badass a very thin character was.

Even villains have morals.

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>>92389242
In the latest issues, he's shown to have remorse for what he did to Glenn
ALSO his disapproval of rape probably comes from the death of his wife
its not very complicated to figure out anon

>>92389633
you dropped the book because he was too thin?

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>Negan

>>92389242
rape and murder are different anon

if you murder some one they dont have to live with it.

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>>92389808
It's this dumbass notion that gives people accused of rape life sentences and murderers 3 years with probation.

>>92389865
actually, no, its not. that anon literally just stated a fact that if you're dead you can't remember what happened to you. that's just reality.

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There needs more rape

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>>92389242

Nice strawman.

He doesn't just crack people's skulls for no reason, he did it because Rick's group killed 15 of their men. Rick's group got off easy just having only Glen die.

Negan disapproves of rape because he's a kind dictator (pic related). Wants to bring back civilization, but believes (-ed) people need to be controlled by fear and manipulation.

>disapproves of rape

His "wives" would have disagreed with you on that point.
No one likes when someone else steals from them, and raping someone before Negan gets a chance to force them into his harem is stealing from him.

>>92390328

What? He doesn't rape his "wives" and he doesn't force himself on other people's women. Negan gives 'em a choice: live in luxury and be my wife or live like the rest of them and not be my wife. I remember also that he distinctively allows them to quit being his wife at anytime; he reminds one of 'em of the choice to leave at anytime right before the famous 1:1 with Carl.

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>>92390496
I can hardly call that consensual.

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>>92389242
>Negan isn't the most nuanced character in the series

>>92389242
You should really look into the nuances of prison morality. Life is some shit writing.

>>92390058
>strawman
I don't think that means what you think it means anon.
The more mental gymnastics you perform to defend your power fantasy character the happier I am for jumping off when I did.

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>>92389865
>people accused of rape life sentences

doubt it

>>92390496
>live like the rest of them

Actually, he threatens to put them and anyone they care about in the most dangerous jobs available.
If I tell you that you can either suck my dick or swim with the sharks, that's not consensual.

>>92390589

>Straw Man: to set up a flimsy argument you claim is your opponent's (usually misrepresenting their original argument) and then proceed to dismantle that flimsy argument you made.

It's a strawman. OP's post implies that Negan cracked Glen's skull for no reason but just shitz&gigglez. Negan follows a set of rules with brutal consequences. He's not a psychopathic sadist, he's a sociopath who believes the ends justify the means regarding the survival of a society.

>>92390554

...That is consensual... That is exactly consensual... Rape is when a person physically and sexually forces themselves on someone who does not want it, or didn't confirm they wanted it, under any condition with the Rapist. He gives them a choice: live lavishly and I get to fuck you or live with the rest of the population and I don't fuck you.

By your logic, all Gold Diggers are rape victims.

Hitler had no problem ordering the deaths of countless millions of people but refrained from eating meat because he thought it was cruel to butcher animals even for food.

>>92389242
>kill a person who attacks your people
>waaagh why dosent he like rape
go get your degenerate fetish somewhere else

>>92390328
Negan doesn't rape them

Is RapeyDavey behind this thread?

>>92389865

I've heard in some European countries you can get away with very light sentences for rape, sometimes even community service. That's how it should be really, murder is a much more serious crime.

>>92390880
You mean the Middle East or India?

>>92390796

Bullshit. I'm gonna look up the issue right now.

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>>92390796

Yeah, no he doesn't. He just gives them the opportunity not have to work for their keep and live as lazy pieces of fuckmeat as long as they volunteer/consent to be one of his wives. This isn't rape, it's just Gold Diggers Diggin' Gold.

Gold Diggers /= Rape Victims.

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>>92391093

>>92389242
He is feminism logic incarnated, in other words, a sociopath.

>>92390880
>>92390910

It's true and it's fucking disgusting. You mostly see it in Sweden, Austria, and Germany.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/iraqi-refugee-raped-10-year-old-boy-swimming-pool-vienna-austria-sentence-conviction-overturned-a7377491.html

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/05/iraqi-immigrant-arrested-raping-nursery-school-child-sweden/

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/muslim-appeals-40-hours-community-service-raping-child-filming-assault/

It gets worse the more you look into it.

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>>92391225
That's just alt-right propaganda, anon.

>>92391329

>Islam says no to rape crimes.

Against Muslim Women where she can prove its raped simply based on the testimonies of 4 male Muslim witness in a Sharia Court. If she can't, then it's automatically assumed adultery/sex before marriage and the bitch gets lashes.

See? Sharia Law is against rape everybody :D!

>>92389242
Rape isn't about sex,it's about power. And there is no greater abuse of power than rape.

>>92389242
People will still defend the wife system as not being rape when they, regardless of gender, would probably give into the exact same co-ercion in an apocalyptic scenario and would no doubt feel thoroughly raped.

Remember that Negan's soldiers actually had it really good by the standards of that community. Standard grunt work and rations are practically gulag conditions.

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>>92391830

>People will still defend the wife system as not being rape when they, regardless of gender, would probably give into the exact same co-ercion

Nah, as a man I have a sense of dignity. Also, pic related.

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>>92391329
>It's not rape if you're not caught

>>92392031
Everybody has dignity. That's why being raped is upsetting.

But a first world citizen's dignity isn't gonna be the reserve of willpower you think it is. In all seriousness you'd probably suck a dick if somebody started seriously fucking with a fingernail.

>>92391093
What the fuck is she crying about if she made the choice to not work? Is working for points like living out of a ditch full of shit? What's the larger context?

>>92390877
underrated post

>>92392714
She has a husband. Husband is now going to get an iron to the face since he was still having relations with her despite becoming one of Negans wives.

>>92389502
anon, the deal with Negan is to use violence and fear in a rational way, to mantaín his domain, that is pretty explicit in the comic. You need to put your men and the other countrys on line, well apply brutal violence. but the way Negan frames violence headlight not only that hi is the alpha dog, and that he is aware of everything that happens, but also that his domain has rules, and structure that make live under his regime posible and even desirable, for his men, and even for the good human capital of the other towns.
is in that frame of make a social order, that he forbid rape, cause put innecesary tensión in his regime. also, he don´t need to rape, cause he make a system to get free all the voluntary pussy he wants.

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>>92389242
I don't like rapists, I know it's bad, but is it wrong that as an 18 year old make who has sexual experience with one girl, that I don't fully understand the horrific aspects of rape? I feel like there's certain aspects I'm missing since I'm not a woman, so I wouldn't be able to properly understand or speak for them. I just now that it involves power and that it hurts people. what say you anons, how does your disgust at these situations feel to you and why?

also explain why back in October, when I started a thread about me regretting fapping to loli since punisher was a favorite if mine, that someone said I should kill myself since I'm supposedly a future rapist. that fucked me up for months and made me feel more afraid and guilty than ever until /adv/ reminded me that I don't like rapists or hurting people so I'm innocent.

>>92393083
Shouldn't a pedo like you be scared of going to prison and getting raped?

>>92390799
He's extorting his "wives".

>>92393169
>a guy who used to fap to porn of misty from Pokémon
>pedo
if I liked real kids yeah, but I honest to god never felt attracted to real kids. Real kids are not hot. Real people in general don't turn me on in fantasies and porn the same way cartoons and anime do, you can't apply my fetishes to real people anyway. i dint like those who hurt real childten though. in fact I reported a pedo on Facebook once.

>>92389865
Brock turner got 3 months

>>92390799
...it's because of the "implication"...

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>>92393083
First, you shouldn't let opinions of faceless strangers affect you.

Second, you sound like you're very confused about your feelings and opinions. I recommend finding someone, perhaps a professional, to talk to. Again, take my first point into consideration. Don't do it because I, a faceless stranger, tells you to. Do it because you recognize that you need help understanding what's going on both inside and outside of you. There's no shame in it. I personally had a therapist for about four months in a low point in my life and it helped me reflect on who I was and who I wanted to be.

Third, it's okay if you don't fully understand the damage something that rape can do, so long as you know that you don't understand. And if you want to, you can always find places online where people talk about their experiences and how it hurt them.

So, for your first question: Rape is almost always about power. Imagine someone stronger than you, maybe even someone you trusted, holding you down against your will. They don't care about how you feel about the situation, they just want to be in control. They violate you and make you feel powerless to stop them. Not only is your sense of security shattered, not only were you someone's focus point of humiliation, but you're traumatized afterwards on your own capabilities. Some men and women have endured horrific physical pain during rape, but many suffer more mental pain afterwards.

And for your second question, sexuality is a fluid and confusing thing. Sometimes you're turned on by something you normally wouldn't like. Or maybe you were generally feeling horny at the time, and you just had loli content nearby. Who knows?

You're not a rapist in the making so long as you know and understand that it's wrong. And so long as you choose to be something better.

People everywhere will try to shame you for struggling, for not understanding your own sexual desires. That shit takes time, and lots of trial and error.

>>92393058
Yeah I know that part, I'm just confused because she's crying. Is not being his wife worse than her husband getting an iron to the face?

my name is zeno the devourer

i am the technological messiah i think

i have been infected with telepathy

can someone please help me?

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>>92394080
You bring eloquence and patience into this dark place.

You poor damned fool.

>>92394165
She's crying because she essentially sold out her husband because she was terrified of what would happen if she said no. She's terrified of the lifestyle she had to endure before and she's terrified of what Negan might do to her if she turns him down.

Sure, he gives her the choice to leave, but not without some form of punishment. It's not explicitly stated, but Negan is the kind of guy who would bend the rules while still keeping his promise. It's implied he might use the iron on BOTH of their faces if she said no.

She's not really agreeing or choosing this voluntarily. She's terrified out of her mind of what MIGHT happen. Negan is an unpredictable dude. Who knows what happens if you reject him? It's never the same thing twice.

>>92393083
>>92394080
Other than what second anon said, there's also the high likelihood that a rape gets taken to extremely cruel degrees, because hey they're already doing something against your will to satisfy their need for power and sex, might as well fit in as many fetishes as possible. I remember this one case where the guy got the rare penalty of life for rape, because ontop of raping her, he poured bleach into her eyes, cut her up, poured boiling water on her to get rid of bio evidence, and other pretty sick violent stuff.

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>>92394322
>It's not explicitly stated, but Negan is the kind of guy who would bend the rules while still keeping his promise. It's implied he might use the iron on BOTH of their faces if she said no.

>>92389502
Exactly.

Killing is a last resort for Negan - he only does it when his code demands it, when he has no choice, or when it's the only way to make a point. People can't produce if they're dead. They can't fight walkers if they're dead. A dead man is useful to no one.

>>92394322
>It's implied he might use the iron on BOTH of their faces if she said no.
No, it's not.

>>92394080
ahhhh I see now, thanks man. I thought I would never understand them because I wasn't a victim. but I feel I know more now. also it's funny, I only got into underage hentai stuff when I was 17 because I fapped myself to death to the normal aged content and I needed a new rush. I regret it.
>>92394306
I like him. He is really well spoken
>>92394359
>burned her skin and bleached her eyes in addition to raping her
what the hell man, why would you want the person you're having sex with to be in a shitload of pain. second of all, why is it only with these extreme circumstances that rapists get life or execution? Brock turner only got THREE months. meanwhile I had a cousin who tried a credit card scam and got a year in jail. strange isn't it?

>>92389242
I consider Rape a worse crime than murder.
Not on a case by case basis, obviously I'd rather be raped than murdered.
But on the grand scheme of morality I find that murder can at times be justified while rape cannot.

>>92393083
Just do your best to imagine, in graphic emotional and physical detail, what it would be like if a really strong man cornered you in a public bathroom, held you down and fucked you in the ass.

Men can be raped, you could be raped, you're not missing some mysterious feminine aspect of this, you just think about it less because the proportion of men who are strong enough to completely overpower you, and who are also attracted to you and therefore have a motivation to rape you, is so small. Women on the other hand can have close to 1 in 2 people they run into meet both of those criteria, so of course they're more afraid of rape, not because it's worse for them, but because it's so much more likely to happen. See, to you, the odds of getting raped are like the odds of getting hit by lightning(exaggeration, but to give you an idea). For most girls, the odds of an attempt are closer to your odds of getting mugged, or getting into a fight, except rather than needing to call a bank and fill out some forms and losing some cash or put some ice on your face or whatever...you've been raped.

It really is as bad as people say. If it happens once it can ruin someone's life, and at the very least it's a major traumatic experience. Think of it like excruciating torture, you will have flashbacks, and you will be mentally fucked up and never the same.

BUT, If you always make sure someone wants it before you have sex them you literally cannot become a rapist. If in doubt, stop. I can't emphasis this enough, it's a full-proof algorithm.

Also if the idea 'oh no, what if I'm a horrible monster and bad and I don't know it' has really fucked you up this bad, I recommend reading up on the psychology of OCD, especially the variation known as 'Pure O'. It's a perfectly manageable mental condition and I don't know where I'd be mentally if I never found out I had it.

>>92393083
Here's something to be considered; in this loli porn you fapped to, were they being raped or were they into it?

>>92389242
men logic

>>92391093
>pic

Oh no the poor women who choose with their greed the lavish Iives.
They should be given all that luxury in the apocalypse *without* any sort of need for "payback".
They are, after all, entitled to it, for they have been born as women.
I feel so deepIy sorry for these women who choose to stay with the abusive husband for his wealth and power.
If they left they'd have to WORK for a living, how cruel.

>>92390554

It is the definition of consensual. That doesn't exactly make it right (not saying it is or isn't) but it sure as shit is consensual.

>>92390796

That's literally a complete fabrication, Negan never said anything of the sort.

>>92389242
He's probably just looking for an excuse to bust more heads. He doesn't need to, but he's a dick.

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I love fapping to rape scenes in movies, especially the foreign visceral films.

When I was army training, a girl in my squad confided in me in detail her story of being drugged and gang raped. I beat my meat so furiously imagining to be one of her rapists.

It's not that crazy, having a no rape rule makes sense considering in a post apocalyptic world he's trying to create a stable system in which the villiges pay tribute to him in exchange for protection. Letting his men go crazy on the ladies would sow dissent and make keeping the masses content near impossible. As long as his group has the power women will willingly come to them for a taste of the good life. If it was a free for all his men would be killing each other to keep the woman.

>>92389242
what third world shithole are you from that rape isn't considered worse and more sociopathic than killing?

>>92389544
the nazis actually killed their own soldiers if they were caught committing rape

>>92394080
This reads like David Wong wrote it.

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I feel the no rape rule is a fucking cop out because of the author's pussy morals not for the sake of the character.

>>92389242
>I haven't read the comics but I'm going to shit on it anyway
Negan really loved his wife, even though he was cheating on her. Plus Negan is extremely pragmatic, nothing much to letting his goons go all rapey.

yeah Negan's a retard, abuses his power to more or less force women to be in his harem but is morally against rape

he's a walking contradiction

>>92389242
t. virgin

>>92389242
I like dickgirls but hate man on man. OMG shit writing!

>>92397043
I guess your army doesn't conduct any psychological testing to weed out dangerous psychos.

>>92390880
They're preparing for sharia.

>>92389242
Didn't he rape like every hot woman he ever "saved" or threaten to burn their husbands face off with an Iron?

>>92399430
Oh I failed my psychological test, that's what wavers are for so recruiters can get that guaranteed bonus.

>>92399759
Nope, he explicitly stated that the women go to him for special favors.

>>92397244
Yes but that would be for fucking Jews. If it was an Aryan he raped then the soldier should die too.

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Can we just agree that Rick playing peacenik to lure him into a throat slash was a great moment?

>>92390862
Yes he does. He forces them into consent. Like with Dwight's wife, she would have been killed if she didn't agree to let him fuck her.

>>92393083
Nice /co/mblr post, buddy.

>>92400657
I agree
Negan a cute btw

>>92389865
>It's this dumbass notion that gives people accused of rape life sentences

literally who?

who has a life sentence for rape? I defy you to find one person in the civilized world who is serving life for rape.

Not only do people read this crap, they pay money for it.

It is no wonder we have Donald Trump as president.

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Hoy! mfw, no anons here can live in a world of strength. How sad and weak.

>>92389242

Rather than dumb rape / no rape arguments...

Can someone explain to me how something so utter shit visually gets to be published? The linework is atrocious and the shading is crap.

>>92389424
>>92389502
Number one, anyone that thinks rape is recreational is a fucking idiot that doesn't know a thing about psychology. All studies attest to the opposite.

This is particularly why drunk sex is different than rape. One is getting a dick wet without the thought of consequences, the other is rape. An action taken to exert power. It's more mental than sexual.

But that's a debate for a different time and place.

I think what OP is getting at is that these stupid "messed up codes" are fucking stupid. "I'll do this, but not that, because I'M FUCKED UP. But that thing? That thing is REALLY fucked up."

Killing people is worse than raping. Anyone who disagrees is a crazy women. No person would follow such a nut. If you did you'd be killed or raped by a more stable group of people.

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>>92397560
Don't know who that is or whether or not that's a good thing.

>>92389242
One is being judge, jury, and executioner.

The other is a crime.

When Negan came around the world had gone Mad Max.

He's a leader with mental issues that sees the deals he makes and the protection he offers as all ships rise with water. So it's less bad writing and unfortunately makes some twisted sense.

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>>92401427
>not liking rape is tumblr
>having a level of human decency is not allowed

>>92401872
why is killing worse than raping

>>92389242

If you look at it from a business point of view it really isn't all that bad. Would you really let your men rape and pillage another community you've subjugated where you could pretty much just sell off the women to other places to make your community stronger?

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>>92391329

>>92389242
while I agree that the writing is shit, there's a reason rapists of women get terrorized in prison. Even among violent crime, it's particularly heinous, ie. Law and Order

If I offered Negan to suck his dick, what would I get? The iron, the bat, or his succulent meat?

>>92401690
Image will publish anything

>>92407038
fuck off moralfag

>>92390554
Its an exchange of services, seems legit to me.

>>92389926
That's fucking stupid and you know it. What about all of the deceased's friends and family? I suppose their suffering doesn't matter to you though.

>>92389808
Blunt weapons generally don't kill someone instantly though, the pain and suffering you would go through while being beaten to death would probably be equal too or even worse than being raped. Also by you're logic the only merciful thing a rapists should do is finish off their victims because it would be better than living, completely discounting all the people who are able to heal their trauma.

>>92390554
They can leave at any time, they just have to start working for shit again like the rest of his people. It's an exchange with benefits for both parties involved and Dwight is a cuck for still caring about his slut of an ex.

>>92389242
Not really they explain really well on why he dispproves rape and not just "DURR ITS EVENMORE EVIL"

>>92390058
>he's a kind dictator
No such thing.

>>92394962
>Brock turner only got THREE months
Pretty sure because he got connections.

>>92395001
>I find that murder can at times be justified
think you might be a sociopath.

>>92400019
>the nazis were only at war with jews
that's not true anon or they would have won.
it was all the other folk who stopped the nazis

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>Rape is worse than being murdered

The instance of murder might be much more painful then a minute of getting dicked.

Negan Negan Negan
Negan Negan Negan
Negan
I'm 100% Negan

Negan Negan Negan
Negan Negan Negan
Negan
I'm 200% Negan

Negan Negan Negan
Negan Negan Negan
Negan
Why do Rick hate Negan?

Negan Negan Negan
Negan Negan Negan
Negan
He hate me cause my bat is bigga

(etc...)

>>92409561
If done right, you wont even notice you've been murdered.

>>92405226
Murder victims can't whine about their hurt feelings.

>>92409414
Why?
You can kill someone out of mercy.

>>92410123
But just how often does a victim get the choice of a quick, painless death. Even with a bullet to the brain, there's a couple seconds of continuing function, which implies utter intense and horrible pain.

>death takes away all of your options and agency forever
>rape makes you feel bad

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Why didn't the eagles just carpet bomb Sanctuary?

>>92410669
Plain and simple ?
Shit writing

>>92410517
>Even with a bullet to the brain, there's a couple seconds of continuing function, which implies utter intense and horrible pain.
> there's a couple seconds of continuing function
You'll lose consciousness from the bullet tearing away the nerves in the brain way before your brain will even get to tell you that you're in pain.

>>92404727
I was actually going in the opposite direction. His blogpost about his hurt feelings over another's disgust of his porn habits and how it "fucked him up" is very hugbox-y.

With the "I know rape is """"bad"""" but don't understand why lul", it makes it almost a mirror image of some whiny tumblr post.

But sure, you can put words in my mouth and say I'm against human decency in order to feel smug. I didn't really explain what I meant all that well.

>>92405226
Rape treats a person as an object for a finite period of time.

Murder literally turns a person into an object, permanently and irrevocably.

Rape survivors still have a chance of regaining a sense of self-respect and control, and can go on to have fulfilling, even happy, lives. Nothing brings back the dead. Being reminded of the trauma can put a survivor back into that degraded mindset, thwarting their efforts to recover. This is why trigger warnings are necessary, where they make sense.

Guys, it's okay to like a character and still admit he's sometimes poorly written. If you don't wear a t-shirt every day that reads "rape is wrong" it doesn't mean you're pro-rape. You can just admit that the whole "Negan hates rape" was a cheap technique by Kirkman so people wouldn't totally loathe Negan.

>>92410123
you could say the same about rape ;^)

I don't get the big deal about rape, it's just sex with extra steps.

>>92412443
I guess, but I don't see why it's something to take so seriously

>>92397244
Citation needed.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/06/24/holocaust.rape/

>>92400657
No, that was fucking retarded. This whole fucking war arc of bullshit leading up to this talk and with everyone pointing their guns at them, and then Rick does a quick slash and holds him hostage?

Also the fact that Negan was somehow fucking convinced after this whole thing to actually work together after all this bullshit?

This scene is honestly the fucking worst example of writing in the entire series.

>>92391559

Not trying to defend rape, but penetrating a vagina by force is not on the level of genocide, manufactured famines, torture of dissidents, slavery, etc.

>>92416546
put it like this: when you're at war do you want your wife, morher, or sister fucked by the enemy? no. cuckoldry is any man's worse fear, so the enemy exploits that in war. also rape is almost every females worst fear so that's an added bonus for the evildoers. it's even worse on a cultural level when there ard half breed children born from rape.

>>92410612
what about necrophilia

>>92408793
Negan only murders people as punishment. Wouldn't make sense to him if he just made it a quick death.