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>50% pure evil >50% human >looks human and seems normal

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>50% pure evil
>50% human
>looks human and seems normal aside from her upbringing

Is this the worst plot twist ever?
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>>92386052
It's nothing new
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>>92386052
>Aku, the SHAPE-SHIFTING master of darkness...
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>>92386280
Why did you type shape-shifting in caps?
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>>92386052
I just realized, her new outfit in this episode made her color scheme include green, black, and red.

In fact, so did the LEAF girl getup.
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It wasn't a plot twist when from the first episode they called them " the daughters of Aku"
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>>92386052
How is it even a damn plot twist? She was from a cult called DAUGHTERS OF AKU and her mom called her and her sisters THE DAUGHTERS OF AKU, almost everyone can saw it coming.
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Yes. Yes it is. It was obvious and painful to see. Everyone knew the instant Jack kissed her that somehow someway the choice would come down to either Ashi dies or Aku dies. I had some degree of hope before that Genndy WOULD AVOID SUCH CLICHE GARBAGE THAT HE HIMSELF HAS CRITICIZED BEFORE.
But no. Apparently Genndy has some bills to pay, kids to put thru college, whores to snort cocaine off their pussy lips, whatever. I really did enjoy the season even if it was so ridiculously compressed that any story telling it offered was okay at best. But now? I'm kinda mad
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>>92386310

He shape-shifted into a human and fucked a human, the child is therefore mostly human. This isn't hard to follow, it's pretty standard shape-shifter fare.
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>>92386052
>twist

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
IS THIS A NEW FORM OF DENIAL?
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>>92386369
>>92386346

It was strongly hinted at. But the problem is that she is 50% evil. Literally evil essense. Yet she's just a normal person with super powers.

She should be half way between Human and Aku.
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>>92386262
>both voiced by Tara Strong
pottery
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>>92386052
>is 100% pure evil
>is the fairest and most bishonen fuccboi in all of Middle-Earth and seems normal aside from his former allegiance to Morgoth, lord of Darkness
wtf I hate Tolkien now
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>>92386052
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>>92386419
Why are you so mad?
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>>92386052
It's not a plot twist. You're one of the same retards who told me this wouldn't happen when I was saying she was akus daughter in all the early threads
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>>92386446
>Yet she's just a normal person with super powers
What superpowers
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Didn't you know that humans are evil? Has television taught you nothing?
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It was pretty fucking obvious. Why are people saying this was a plot twist?
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>>92386513
Underrated post.
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>>92386419
>"kinda" mad
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>>92386052
1% evil
99% hot gas
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>>92386052
how is it a plot twist, we knew she was the daughter of aku so of course something like this would happen
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>>92386052
You could claim she was 1/7 evil of an equation of 1/2 human and 1/2 evil. After all, Aku's juice was enough to be split in 7 children, so how much would that be?
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>>92386716
Idiots thought she was only metaphorically his daughter.
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>>92386514
>>92386656
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>>92386346
>>92386369
This. I was uncertain at first but when they established the Daughters of Aku could survive intense heat I figured that confirmed it. I was surprised how many /co/mrades lost their goddamned mind at what seemed like a foregone conclusion.
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>>92386052
So 75% pure evil.

25% more evil than a normal human.
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>>92386424
No he just dripped his evil cum into a goblet and she drank it.
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Am i the only one who took the "daughters of Aku" line pretty much at face value in the show? Like right from the beginning i sorta figured Aku had something to do with the girls r if it wasn't direct; Aku being complacent with Jack still being alive was a bit of a downer on this, but i still figured he has something to do with the daughters of Aku.
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>>92386886
The High Priestess even mentioned that Aku had visited them at least once in the past; it was pretty obvious he was somehow related to Ashi and the others.
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When's the Scotsman?
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>>92386582
She displayed quite a bit of super strength when she beat that army on her own. Like there were a weird amount of brute strength moments despite her very slender form.
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>>92386052
Don't worry
She'll die
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>>92386886
Lol same was this supposed to be a twist? I was assuming Aku fucked the leader of the cult.
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>>92386262
I mean, Raven has grey skin and blue hair
That doesn't scream completely normal
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>>92387054
And Ashi massacred an entire army on her own with strength no normal person should have.
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Will Jack ever love someone who isn't Aku?
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What is Aku's best reaction image?
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>>92387109
She had the power of Gennedyphysics.
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>>92387054
She shares a team with a human who has green skin and changes into animals at will.
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>>92387243
...and that's not normal either.
What's your point?
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>>92387152
True, Genndy does like to exaggerate. But I'm still open to the idea that that sequence with Ashi pushing down a hole army down the mountain was foreshadowing to her demonic roots.
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>>92387261
If i was to see the latter first, the former would look normal to me in comparison.
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>>92386052
>>Looks human
>Side profile is a monkey
Ashi is just a light skinned black person
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>Ashi really DID end up getting CASCA'D

BEFORE THE MIND HEALING WAS FINALIZED, I TORE OPEN A PASSAGE TO ELF ISLAND, AND FLUNG HIM ONTO A BOAT, WHERE MY HAITUS IS LAW. NOW THE FOOL SEEKS TO RETURN TO PAST ARTSTYLES, AND UNDO THE FUTURE THAT IS IDOLM@STER
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Did the Chinkerbell outfit not give it away?
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>>92386052

He's an evil shape shifting wizard. Realism isn't a priority
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>>92386052
>>92386514
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>>92387956
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>>92387109
Didn't we go through a whole week of people saying "there's nothing unusual about that in the logic of the show", "Jack could have done the exact same thing", "stop being a manbaby about stronk females", etc.? I can see how people would have been thrown off the scent if they were thinking along those lines.
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>>92388085
There were certain disagreements over that. I was on the side that supported that Ashi, for all we knew at the time, shouldn't really have been able to do something like that but still wasn't very bothered by it.
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>>92388085
Even with the reveal making it more sensible, I still stand by my statements of it being acceptable within the shows logic
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>>92388002
Ashi kind of has a bitch face which I find sexy as fuck
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>>92388282
Particularly if kicking someone in the head.
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The last 2 digits of your reply to this post are the odds that Ashi dies. Dub zeros means 100% odds.

Go.
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>>92388442
Time to see
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You guys are forgetting something extremely important

Ashi dies, killing her Aku powers to create a time portal

Jack has to use the time portal, and Ashi can't come because she has Aku and Aku can't exist in Jack's future

Now Jack has to decide

-Does he go back to the past to destroy Aku
or
-Does he go back to the past to save Ashi before she gets Aku'd

Jack has a difficult choice next week, lads.
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>>92386052
Your genes aren't the only thing that determine who you are, haven't you played Metal Gear Solid?
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>>92388442
rollin for mai waifu
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>>92388377
They're so cute together I hope they both make it out alive.
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>>92388498
fug
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>>92388622
I can live with these odds
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>>92388622
goddamn it anon
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>>92388593
Who is the Kazuhira "discount rates for apartheid states" Miller of Samurai Jack?
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>>92388639
Me too. Hopefully these two get to go on awkward dork adventures after they ride off into the sunset.
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>>92386052
>girl gets pregnant with demon jizz
>all children are female
Really activates your Ashis.
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>>92388085
Really, it could go either way due to Genndyphysics. It makes for dubious foreshadowing if that's what it was intended to be.
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>>92388557
>before she gets Aku'd
Ashi was "Aku'd" since birth, if he does go back to the past before she was transformed (which is what I assume you mean) he would have to distance himself from Ashi so Aku doesn't smell her once scaramouche tells Aku Jack lost his sword, or kill Aku before he can control Ashi.
But this has to be a bittersweet ending, so I assume they stay in the future alive and together, or Ashi dies somehow and Jack goes back to the past or stays in the future.
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>>92386513
Sauron wasn't evil, he was just incredibly, incredibly autistic.

>>92386514
BBBRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPP
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>>92388749
The children were probably just clones of the mother.
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>>92388442
DIE DIE DIE
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>>92386052
She's a genetic clone of her mother, made possible by Aku tar acting as a magic placeholder for sperm.
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>>92388813
Or they're just, y'know, identical septuplets.

Man, Aku-sperm is POTENT.
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>>92388557
>Does he go back to the past to save Ashi before she gets Aku'd
By preventing her from being born? Ashi is Aku. Aku is Ashi. They're one in the same.
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>>92386052
>Every time Jacks gets with a girl it turns out to be Aku
This is why Jack lost all hope of losing his virginity
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Guys, get ready for an AMBIGUOUS AS FUCK ENDING where the series just goes to a white screen when Jack enters the time portal, and its completely left up to the viewer to decide what happens after that

People will ask if Jack went back to the past to destroy Aku, or if he just went far back enough to save Ashi before she gets transformed.

Genndy will never answer.
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All that bitching over Jack getting a love interest. And she's Aku. Again. Like always.
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>>92388801
>Sauron wasn't evil, he was just incredibly, incredibly autistic.
Mouth of Sauron pls
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>>92388994
I'm sorry I ever doubted you genndy

Episode 9 makes episodes 5-8 so much better
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What OP is complaining about is not a big deal.

The worst parts of the episode were
1. Scaramoush just getting killed after all the set up that he would return

But more importantly

2. Pic related.
I mean really? He's just dead? It would have been better to just not bring him up. Because now that episode where he appeared has ZERO reason to exist. Why couldn't Jack use the time portal back then? Why?
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>>92386262
Raven does not look like a normal human and cannot act like a normal human without shadow demon tentacles shooting out of her vagina and fucking shit up. Dumb comparison.
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>>92389044
I agree that was a terrible reference to the guardian
"You can't use it yet Jack. Not yet"
WHAT WAS THE POINT?
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Not gonna lie, Ashi begging Jack to kill her might be cliched, but by God it actually got me. Maybe it's just because I've really grown to like Jack and Ashi both as individual characters as well as a couple, but it still hurt. For a moment there I thought he would actually do it.
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>>92388673
He said dubs ZEROES means 100%. I got 22%
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>>92389044
Scaramouche contributed nothing of importance and needed to be killed episodes ago. He had no reason to last as long as he did.
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Are spoiler tags just not a thing anymore?
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Yes Alex, I'll take Questions that will NEVER BE ANSWERED for 500
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Do you think they'll have to kill Ashi so no trace of Aku is left on Earth?
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>>92389199
YouTube's layout already ruins any chance of going into an episode blind.
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Why did Jack lie about there not being "a girl" in his childhood when he clearly had one?
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>>92386280
Greg knocked Aku outta the ballpark last episode
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>>92389329
Yeah the voice sounded much better and more like Mako this time
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>>92389253
Because he does not consider a peck on the cheek as a child to have been a relationship?
Why even pretend to believe that, anon?
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>>92389115
He almost does, I think.
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>>92389044
>>92389200

The fight taking place at that spot is significant.

Jack will kill Aku. Then as Aku lays dying, he'll remember. A flashback to him fighting the Guardian will remain. The guardian lays dying, and will explain how Jack is destined to use the time portal, and it doesn't matter if he dies or not. Aku will laugh.

End will be them using that Time portal of the Guardian's after it has been repaired.
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>>92389329
>>92389361
Genndy mentioned that Mako's family came in to see Baldwin doing Aku's voice near the end of the series, and that there were some misty eyes. Frankly this ep's performance out of him might have done it.

>>92389253
Because Ashi meant 'a girl' in the sense of a girl like her, and the only thing he ever experienced romantically back home was a shy peck on the cheek as a kid of less than 10.
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>>92389628
I don't know anon, I think it was more gendy thinking "huh I've got this dangling plot thread that doesn't fit with the new ending I've made up so let's just show the portal and guy dead"
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>>92386419
>being this mad
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Today I learned on /co/ there are faggots that believe Jack's current sword is the same one from before

No.

Jack DID NOT Recieve his old sword back. The sword he has right now is BRAND NEW.

His original sword is still out there somewhere.
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>>92389704

I hope not. Because there'd be no problem with Aku being wrong and him having missed 1 time portal. The Guardian seemed mystical, and you could say there's something keeping it hidden from Aku.
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>>92389757
I dunno, but I strongly suspect Jack is gonna pull the blade out of himself at some point in the fight, assuming Aku does something like chuck it into space or the pit of hate.

>"The weapon is me, Aku."
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>>92389757
Nah. Jack even says "the sword left me" and then journeys to get it back. It's the same sword for sure. You can disagree, but you're in the minority
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>>92389757
Nope.
The facts don't lie. Same sword. Makes sense.
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>>92388994
I love everything about Akushi's design and animation

>>92389636
That's beautiful.
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>The Daughter of Aku, part of the group Daughters of Aku, is the daughter of Aku

No

Shit

Really

Are you sure

Wow

I'm

So surprised
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>>92389873
>I love everything about Akushi's design and animation

Same. I wish we had more time for her. She has a very animalistic unreal nature to her. Very Souslbrorne boss like.
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>>92389867
>Nope.
>The facts don't lie. Same sword. Makes sense.
>>92389852
>Nah. Jack even says "the sword left me" and then journeys to get it back. It's the same sword for sure. You can disagree, but you're in the minority

Are you fucking retarded? Did you even WATCH the original series that Genndy keeps referencing in season 5?

First, here's the forging you saw in Episode 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hrX4_hkxmg&t=60s

Almost the entire sequence is skipped for time constraints. Episode 7 was rushed as fuck so they skip almost everything in this sequence. However, all you need to confirm Jack's sword is new is the very fact Jack got hit by laser beams.


Here's the ORIGINAL FORGING of Jack's ORIGINAL SWORD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVYsbP4CB6M&t=110 [Embed]

As you can see, the ENTIRE POINT of the Gods using laser beams to attack Jack or his father is to get his "spirit" out of his body, so they can hammer it into the form of a sword

If the Gods were simply giving JAck his old sword, there is literally no reason for them to attack him with laser beams.

Jack's current sword is brand new, and you're fucking autistic retards that need to watch the old series.

This is NOT up for debate. Jack's sword is brand new. No questions asked.
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>>92389115
>For a moment there I thought he would actually do it.
I didn't think this for a second, I dislike Ashi but I know she's making it out of this alive.
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>>92390033
>there is literally no reason for them to attack him with laser beams.
shave, haircut, threads m8
>>92390051
why is that? I want to hear actual evidence other than "she's genndy's waifu"
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>>92389044
He's not dead until we see a body.
Also Aku destroyed ALL the time portals.
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>>92386753
1/14th evil. Basic multiplication.
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>>92386419
>""kinda mad""
You're so butthurt about the plot of a cartoon show that I have secondhand embarassment for you
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>>92390159
This season is cliche as fuck, and "offspring of evil overpowers her evil programming/upbringing" is pretty popular, hell it's already been done 1 or 2 times this season. Plus her begging to be killed just put me off, it placed a feeling in my gut shouting "she isn't going to die".
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>>92390159
This. Guardian isn't confirmed dead, just implied. Genndy has pulled other fake-outs this season, no reason this isn't one too
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>>92390360
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>>92389873
>that filename

Fucking this. The dead face, the unnaturally ferocious movements applied to otherwise elegant anatomy, Jack being on his heels the whole way until he gets saved by his swords indestructibility made me think of DS almost immediately.

>that initial charge sound buildup
>that animalistic stabbing
>that tectonic boom from the kick
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>>92389873
she moved like a darksouls/bloodborn
boss.
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>>92390360
Sure it's cliched, most of the earlier seasons' episodes have been too. Don't you like Samurai Jack?
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So was this the last one or is that next week? I've seen a promo, but it used footage from this episode.
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>>92390623
I do, I just want Ashi to fuck off.
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>>92390664
The last episode is next week. The promo is useless to not reveal a peep of info.

Supposedly not even the mooks at [AS] or CN have seen the final episode. Shit, if I remember right, LAZZO didn't see it, not even the storyboards. He wanted to see the conclusion whole.
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>>92390360
>>92390680
as a jashifag it cheers me up that someone who hates ashi thinks she will survive. I know it wasn't your intention but thanks anon :)
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>>92390779
I mean I dislike her, but I'm not delusional, she just makes every scene she's in so bland.
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For all those complaining about the Guardian retcon, it's pretty obvious the story Gendy went with for this final season is not the ending season he had initially planned when writing the show a decade ago. This could be for any number of reasons. Maybe the number of episodes they gave him (10) wouldn't work with the ending season he had planned which might have been based on having more episodes like the old season got. Maybe the venue switch to Adult Swim gave him the ability to have more freedom to the amount of violence and borderline nudity and it let him make an ending season he had originally wanted to make more but couldn't originally when the show was on main cartoon network. Maybe the script he wrote for the movie that had been teased was what he based this season off of instead of the original plan back a decade ago. Or maybe after a decade of hiatus, he just changed his mind and decided on something different.

Any one of these explanations could explain the change in plans. It might even be a few of them mixed together.
That being said, when marathoning the whole show now, it's probably best to just skip the guardian episode from here on out. It won't completely fix the issue, but it leaves it overall less co fusing if it's not there.
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>>92390812
Thanks for not being petty and backpedaling. I genuinely appreciate that
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>>92390033
If it were brand new, we wouldve seen them forge it.
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>>92386886
Yeeeaaaah ... wtf, were people shocked? At first I thought they may just be a crazy cult that has kids, kills the boys and raises the girls to be "Daughters of AKU!" but then we see her give birth to like 7 of them at once.

7 babies ... all girls ... people don't normally do that so yeah, them being the legit daughters of Aku should be assumed.
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>>92390929
>This could be for any number of reasons.

You need not speculate, Genndy talked about that openly. Mako dying led to several re-write ideas of how to handle the end, and there were several different formats pitched for the end that changed how events would happen and which would happen. Definitely being on [AS] gave him a freer hand, which he obviously wanted.

I'm guessing "give Jack a reason to stay" was part of plans very early, though.
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>>92390986
>7 babies ... all girls ... people don't normally do that

Septuplets are incredibly rare, but do occur in nature. If they were identical septuplets they'd all be girls and all look identical.
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>>92391042
I wonder if we will ever figure out the original ending
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>>92390986
Isn't the whole cult named that, though?
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>>92390929
Why do you think the final showdown is set on the site of the Guardian's portal?
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>>92386052
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>>92391087
The original ending was probably a 2 episode story at most. Keep in mind that samuri jack was always episodic. The last season would have likely been like that up until the very end. That's how most cartoon shows were. So the ending we are getting now is almost certainly BETTER than the original plan, it's just that a few older plot details like the guardian were not compatible then.

TL;DR If Gendy had originally planned to use this ending, Guardian would never have had a guardian episode in the first place.
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>>92391118
Hmm, what are you saying? You think it might reactivate?!?!
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>>92386446
>She should be half way between Human and Aku.
That's what she ended up becoming once Aku activated his essence inside her.
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>>92386052

Daughters of Aku were essentially rehashed Ultra-Robots anyway. And Aku fueled those things with his black goo as well.
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>>92391111
Yup. Aku notes with amusement that Ashi is a 'real' daughter of Aku.
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Another day, another forced excuse to hate SJ.

I'm convinced there is an ulterior motive at this point.
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You guys are idiots.

Guardian's portal is going to reactivate as soon as Jack kills Any. At which point Ashi will be freed and Jack will be forced to make a very difficult decision.
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>>92391162
I think it might. At least, I don't see why they'd have Jack's final battle with Aku on this particular spot if they were throwing away the Guardian foreshadowing.
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>>92391162
Or it might be that that portal was never going to be the one Jack was going to go through at all. The Guardian works for his portal, but it doesn't tell him everything. It might have omitted the fact that, when Jack is ready, it will be through a different route (probably Ashi, if they roll this way).
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>>92391221
>Any
Aku**************
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What are the odds Ashi's role is to take Aku's place and become a benevolent ruler instead, while Jack finally fucks off to create a happier separate timeline by killing Aku in the past?

Thats going to be ending isn't it?
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>>92386419
good post
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Surprised tumblr isn't full of porn featuring futanari Ikra and Ashi's mom by now.
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>>92388994
>it's the third time Jack has gotten seduced by Aku

It just doesn't stop being hilarious
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>>92388994

Love and hate are related to each other. And Jack and Aku have been hating each other for 50+ years. Spend all your life thinking about that someone else and inevitably your obsession might get really weird about it.
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>>92386052
>>50% pure evil
>>50% human

What if she loses half her life when the Aku essence is destroyed, and turns into a ten year old?
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>>92391578
Are you retarded?
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>>92386052
How is it even a plot twist? I didn't even know they were trying to hide it, that's how obvious it was. Was there anybody who didn't actually think they weren't the actual daughters of Aku?
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>>92391629
Are you unfamiliar with the laws of genetics?
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>>92391771
just the incest-fags hoping she was jack's daughter
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>>92390159
this
portals can be rebuilt vis-a-vis the episode where aku takes over jack's body
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>>92391331
>>92391433
The bittersweet ending is that Ashi lives, but Jack stops being attracted to her when Aku is destroyed.
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If Jack kills Aku, would that kill Ashi? If the "Daughters of Aku" are literally part-Aku, how is it that Jack was able to kill them with ordinary weapons?
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>>92390159
>Also Aku destroyed ALL the time portals.

Aku is an unreliable narrator.
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>>92395521
i doubt this will happen but i wouldnt doubt it, genndy has practically spat on the faces of jashi shippers across the globe in a single episode. this would be the final nail on the coffin for them.
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>>92391237
The portal in the comics denoted Jack as a grizzled warlord. It's possible that his future was to rule the earth post-aku as an immortal warrior of justice. It was a time portal, that has the capacity to speak to Mako in some way, so who the fuck knows
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>>92390033
>attack him with laser beams.

They "attacked" him the same way Galactus "attacked" Norrin Rad to make him the Silver Surfer.
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>>92395755
>It's possible that his future was to rule the earth post-aku as an immortal warrior of justice.
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>>92395521
>If Jack kills Aku, would that kill Ashi?

This seems like a strong possibility, though Jack doesn't seem to believe it while he's fighting Ashi and urging her to resist Aku's presence in her. Plus, this season has been heavy on the idea of your choices defining you, if Ashi has no option but to die, that subverts that.

If it IS true and Jack finds out (like, say, slashing Aku and Ashi screams too), I don't think he'll be able to go through with killing Aku. At which point I would expect Ashi to solve the problem by killing herself.

Of course, all of that would be very dark for the conclusion of Samurai Jack, and I think it's more likely that he's gonna burn out the Aku in her with love. Or maybe SUCC it out.
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>>92386419
You mean obvious from the moment in the first episode when Ashi looked outside, then yes.
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>>92386513
Is that Šejić art?
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>>92386877
Aku presumed she drank it.
> SO SHE MUST HAVE....DRANK IT?
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>>92395521
>If Jack kills Aku, would that kill Ashi?

Nah. The darkness that Aku originated from was killed, but he still survived. Seems like pieces of darkness can survive independently.
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>>92396428
>inb4 "but that piece became evil so she has to be killed anyways"
The piece of darkness within Ashi has not independently caused any problems for her whatsoever, there is no reason to believe that once the "trigon" to her "raven" is killed, that the darkness will overtake her.
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>>92388442
Please don't die.
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>>92396170
>Aku couldn't POSSIBLY know how his own spunk works!
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>>92386052
>female
>not evil
More like 100% evil.
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>>92386052
They're doing it on purpose, you know. All the little inconsistencies like that are going to have a reason. I'm not saying it won't be fucking stupid but it's going to happen.
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>>92389928
This. Frankly, I'm surprised this was apparently meant to come as some sort of shock. Why else would the birth have been made such a big deal (all the candles, lying on an altar, turning these children in particular into assassins, etc) if she wasn't inseminated by Aku?

I mean, it's still lame as hell, since Ashi is the worst part of the show and the fact that she was overtaken and became Akushi wasn't really dramatic and felt more like "Oh thank god, we finally don't have to listen to her again, too bad it's the second to last episode".
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>>92396584
Does this look like a master of masters who knows what he's talking about?
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>>92394068
Or she's somehow reborn with no trace of Aku and no memory of Jack.

Just for that added similarity to Teen Titans.
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>>92396600
Dubs don't lie.
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>>92396584
Aku honestly doesn't seem to know how most of his shit works.
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>>92386052
>Literally 50% Aku
>Becomes totally good, despite her entire childhood being spent tortured and brainwashed into worshipping Aku and that Jack is evil
>Over the course of a few days she not only completely cleanses herself of evil and becomes a relatively normal person, but she falls in love with the person she was raised to loathe for his physical appearance, despite having been raised in an entirely female environment devoid of romance
>Despite all that, Aku is instantly able to just overtake her mentally and physically
>Ashi literally begs Jack to kill her
>He fucking can't, despite the fact that she's probably in horrible pain due to being contorted and stretched wildly, and the fact that he's killed far less deserving people before.
It's not only the worst plot twist ever, but the worst plot ever. If Jack somehow finds a way to make Ashi completely fine again I will actually vomit.
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>>92396720
That would completely defeat the purpose of her character arc.
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>>92396720
Ashi is totally outmatched by Jack. This is another Batman VS Superman situation, where the former only stands a chance because the other isn't actually trying.
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>>92396719
>yfw Ashi's mother sucked that shit up into a turkey baster and fucked herself to orgasm before squirting it inside her
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>next episode begins with Aku holding the sword over his head in triumph
>it slips from his fingers
>his final words are "oops" and then a scream of fear and agony as the sword falls through him to the ground, cleaving him in two
>Aku is defeated
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>>92396830
> ywn never creampie a cult leader totally devoted to you and raising your offspring without any involvement needed from you.
Why live?
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>>92396868
I would honestly forgive everything bad about the entire season if this happened.
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>>92386419
>either Ashi dies or Aku dies
Why not both?
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>Jack accidentally swallows just an itty bitty amount of Akuness
>forcefully turned into another just as evil Aku
>Ashi is literally 50% Aku
>has to be raised evil and somehow still turns out good
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>>92396885
aku is the ultimate wizzard
>old as fuck
>bitter
>and needs to stay a virgin to keep his powers
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>>92396885
>Aku is the one person who's been a virgin longer than Jack
>Glad at last to get nailed vicariously by Jack through his daughter
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>>92397002
Jack swallowed a bit of Aku-corrupted disease. It took hold because diseases do that.

Ashi meanwhile is like one of those poor fuckers with a genetic deadman's switch that sets off a lethal disease as if on a timer early in life.
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>>92396802
Jack has only killed people trying to kill him I thought, which is just Ashi's sister and a slight implication of killing bounty hunters in the princess and the bounty hunters episode. He's killed plenty of animals/monsters and robots
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>>92386419
>down to either Ashi dies, or Aku dies.

I disagree. Jack didn't fall victim to the cliche, he dropped the sword. Plus, remember the goats? The goats were killed while tainted by Aku's magic, and the sword abandoned him for it. Wouldn't it be the same for Ashi? She is another innocent tainted and controlled by Aku's magic just he same. If Jack had killed her to get to Aku, Jack would have lost the sword. Its not happening, Jack isn't going to kill her. Still, she could end up dying some other way, but Jack won't kill her. I think by "bittersweet" of a ending, its that Jack is going to either get to be with Ashi, or go back to the past, either way its bittersweet then because he didn't get everything he wanted, and he lost things important to him either way.
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>>92397141
At this point, the only way Jack is going to get back to the past (Watcha!) is if either Ashi or Aku opens a time portal for him to travel through. I can't see any reason Aku would but if Ashi did, he'd most likely have to abandon her. Alternatively, he slays Aku in the present and never travels back to the past.
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>>92397198

I want them to kill Aku, and never go back to the past.

Future-world is just too damn interesting. And it's barely been explored. It is a WORLD OF ADVENTURE.

I want sequel series set in it so we can fully explore it post-Aku. Nations fight for control in the power vacuum Aku's death brought. Staring Jack and Ashi's child.
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>>92397141
but ashi isn't just possessed or tainted

part of her -IS- aku
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>>92389757
Yes, Jack's current sword is a new sword. A new sword, born out of his own soul, just as his father's was as well.
No, his old sword isn't "still out there". When the sword rejected him, it left. I don't mean left as in went somewhere else, I mean left as in returned to the gods and was unmade. Highlander rules, there can only be one chosen to defeat Aku, and if they have a god sword, any other copies no longer exist.
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>>92397198
Both choices are the same as I had said. If Ashi opens a portal, he chooses his past over Ashi. And if Aku dies, Ashi's Aku side dies with him, and Jack choses Ashi over the past.
>>92397262
She is still half human, and half innocent is still innocent. The goats were half innocent, and half Aku magic as well. The instant Jack were to kill Ashi, her Aku side would have left her exposing her human form, and the sword would have fell from his hand and rolled under some trash or something, disappearing again. People seem to forget, Jack only has the sword because the sword agrees with his choices so far. If the sword ever feels he committed sin, the sword will leave him again.
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>>92388442
Fear not Ashi, I'll save you
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How much jack threads you need to:
>run out of ending scenarios
>worship aku
>describe your hate over Ashi
>replace a lightbulb?
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>>92387054
Only in the cartoons.
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Is Aku the mary sue of villains?
>can't be harmed by anything
>runs away from every single fight
>knows exactly where to go and to be at all times
>shapeshifter
>his laser eye beams can literally do anything he wants them to
>barely has to do anything, his plans just sort of unfold on their own
Its getting annoying. We get it, you want us to hate him.
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>>92397601

Aku's already won. The system of government he's put in place sort of runs itself.
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>>92386052
>Kill me, Jack

honestly the best part to this "twist"

I would have been pretty happy if Jack actually did the job in this episode.
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>>92389329
>>92389361
I think it's the echo. His voice didn't have the echo earlier in the season for some reason.
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>>92386419
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>>92386052
>50% pure evil
>50% human
>looks human and seems normal
You just described women
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>>92386369

>almost everyone can saw it coming.

You'd think! But 99% of /co/ kept shitposting this

>The Daughters are just a fan club!

>They nothing to actually do with Aku!

>Aku doesn't even know about them!

Without a single shred of evidence in the show backing this up, when the show was strongly hinting at the opposite. /co/ is fucking dense and lacks whatever the equivalent of reading comprehension is to watching things. Viewing comprehension?

Same thing with this goddamn thread. I can't tell if /co/ is this fucking stupid or just pretending for bait. (Not you anon I'm replying, but people like OP).
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>>92389628

Yeah seriously. /co/ can't read cinematic language. There is a reason this fight is going down on that exact spot right now.
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>>92390929


Aaaaannnnndddddd....

It's Genndy's show and creation. He can do whatever the fuck he wants. He owes /co/ fucking nothing, especially when /co/ insists on spitting on him just they don't like that people are enjoying his work.
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>but why do mortal weapons hurt them if they're half aku
Probably because they're made of flesh (birthed by a human woman) and the mortal half of them is apparently dominant until Aku makes it otherwise.
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Imagine if all 7 of aku's daughters actually go like that
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>>92388085
THAT Ashi could defeat the army is justified by show-logic, and Jack could have defeated the army himself. It was HOW she did it that had implications. Jack would have used his superior skill and weapon to hack and slash his way through the ranks. Ashi bulldozed through with brute strength. Jack would have taken a spear and used it as a spear/staff to fight. Ashi grabbed a bunch of spears, chopped their ends off with her bare hand, and threw all of them them at once hard enough to penetrate armor. Jack has superhuman strength, but the degree of his strength is made less conspicuous by the style and common occurrence of even stronger characters. Ashi's strength is conspicuously superhuman. She is shown in episode 2 to be far stronger than Jack himself when she pinned him to a tomb while having a considerable mechanical disadvantage.
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>>92389044
This >>92389198. Scaramouche served as nothing more than a plot device to relay to Aku that Jack lost his sword. His characterization was added to mask his 1 dimensional role.
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>>92390033
Just realised, wouldn't it be cooler if Jack got Samurai armour like his dad instead of his old clothes?
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wait, what if
Aku used his power to rise other dead sisters?
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>>92398558
I was initially on the fence with Ashi's OP strength in ep7, but it made so much more sense in context in ep9. I just wished they did a better job signaling subtly that Ashi didn't know her own strength during that battle. It's far beyond something Ashi could had experienced in training.
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>>92386369
Just because they're daughters doesn't mean it's literal

Is a catholic priest literally the father of the entire congregation?
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>>92397947
That part gave me feels, seriously. And I haven't felt at all this season.
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>>92386052
I wonder how will they explain the fact that Aku can't be killed by anyone not even the sword according to the exposition we got from Jack's dad vs Aku fight, he was not killed but rather turned into a tree vowing to return one day, i don't know if that was a slip from Jack's dad or the only ones who can really eliminate all of Aku's essence are those 3 space gods, so far it seems that even if a small drop of Aku survives he comes back in full swing as time passes.
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>>92386419
>THAT HE HIMSELF HAS CRITICIZED BEFORE.
Source?
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>>92390929
Isnt it possible that Jack
> goes back in time somehow(Aku powers?)
>guardian is still alive in past
>gets to use portal to go to future
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Shouldn't all of Ashi's sisters be alive? Or at least the aku part of their bodies? Jack didn't use the sword on any of them, auk's essence can't be destroyed otherwise.
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>>92398780
their human part is dead
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>Ashi and her sisters look the same except for haircuts
>Her mother has the same monkey face

Did the priestess just give birth to 7 clones of herself?
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>>92398783
AKU ZOMBIE DAUGHTERS IN THE FINALE
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I wish it wasn't Tara Strong. Its the only thing I don't like about the show. She's a fine voice actor but shes in goddamn everything and I only equate her voice with me being annoyed now.
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>>92387243
Starfire is an alien with orange skin, and most of Cyborg's body is metal. Robin is the only one that doesn't look weird in some way.
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>>92386052
>plot twist
The show tells you she's Aku's kid in the first episode
It's not a plot twist just because you were in denial.
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>>92398994
Do you think aku really contributed with dna?

it's just magic cum applied over a clone
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>>92389757
D U A L W I E L D I N G
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>>92389044
1. what were you expecting? do we watch the same show I knew he was insta dead in the moment jack got the sword, this is no DBZ samurai jack doesn't re-use fights or make rematches if its no in the same episode, once gendy exploits a character and a fight he jumps over the next one.
2.
>muh guardian
so you just want fanservice, all portals destroyed that's part of the season plot, having one more portal would be the actual retcon.
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>>92386052
>You're entering the vicinity of an area adjacent to a location, the kind of place where there might be a monster or weird mirror. These are just examples, it could also be something much better. Prepare to enter The Scary Door.
>finally! I've combined the DNA of all the world's most evil animals to create the most evil animal of them all!
>it turns out it's man (dun dun dunnn!)
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>>92389928
since they acted nothing like supernatural beings, everyone with two brain cells thought they were just retarded cultist, and no actually magical beings, I'm sorry the idea went over your fucking head.
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>>92390929
But guardian wasnt retconed, they aknowledged him to show that the last hope we all had for jack to go back to the past was also lost, if something so simple goes over your head, maybe "the skiping this episode that didnt had muh cool blue morpheus in a rematch, geny is so hack bohooo " is a correct solution to your problem.
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>>92397262
>The decisions you make and the actions that follow are a reflection of who you really are.
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>>92401796
Well anon, you're technically right. But everyone with more than two brain cells saw this coming from a mile away.
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>>92386052
I think the point was that Aku has controlled people with 0% of him in them, so she was retarded easy.
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>>92398717
Well, the Minions of Set were imprisoned before they got released, did evil, and Ra KILLED them this time. Since Aku has already had his chance at corrective justice, perhaps the gods will show up to take possession of the sword and fry Aku.

Or perhaps Jack will destroy the sword with Aku in it, or himself with Aku in HIM, or something like that, and death/destruction will 'carry over' to Jack.

Or maybe the sword doesn't kill Aku, but raw, unfiltered human goodness (expressed via love) does.

Or maybe Jack imprisons Aku in the sword, and uses a hypothetical last portal to chuck Aku into the future - specifically requesting, say, the end of all time.
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No you idiots, the people who saw it as a twist aren't in denial, they see it as a twist because of how it was built up, until now it was executed as Aku not knowing about them, the cult just being weird as fuck and never had seen Aku or knew how to even find/talk to him, and that someone else impregnated the head leader or it happened through some ritual magic spell shit, they're fucking crazy who knew.

It wasn't retarded that based on how it played out that it was just the cultists saying they were the daughters in a honor/job-based way.
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>So she must have...drank it?

Er, no Aku. That's not how human reproduc-

You know what, Aku, you'll find out when you're older.
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>>92402989
This is the same thing for the Jashi thing, not everybody who saw it as sudden/a big reveal were Daughterfags, or were just mad that it didn't take that direction, but the fact that the hints easily could've been seen as Jack and Ashi just getting acquainted with each other and starting to accept each other as equals. Jack being awkward saying "I like your hair, and your dress" could've been seen as both a tonal dissonance gag due to them just having a battle, and/or just Jack being socially awkward anyway as he is with others mate-wise or not.

Unlike here though, the "twist" thing didn't have much denialfags/scapegoat sides, here there were daughterfags prior to the event.
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Looking at the daughters all together got me thinking. People complained at the start of the season that they all looked alike except for the hair. I'm wondering if it's on purpose.

When you look at the silhouette of the high priestess drinking the aku cum, she has the same ape face like Ashi has. Maybe Ashi is just a clone of her mother with Aku infusion, same with her sisters. And that's why they look alike except for the hair.
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>>92403251
They're literally septuplets. Anyone who complained is a retard there doesn't need to be a theory as to why daughters resemble their mothers
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>>92386419
My theory is that he just had his heart broken hard in the 15 years between the seasons
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>>92386513
Childhood is idolizing Manwë. Adulthood is realizing Melkor makes more sense.
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>>92403313
Yeah, that make sense.
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>>92403251
>I'm wondering if it's on purpose.

It does. They're identical septuplets. That means they're genetically identical, and so would appear identical.
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>>92403367
Genndy is happily married with a gaggle of kids and has been most of his professional life that you know him for. And he's more successful than ever, so it isn't professional frustration.
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>>92386052
>0% evil
>japanese
>50% evil
>filipino
Makes sense actually
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I like how Jack's reaction to finding out the woman he's come to trust and love is his arch-enemy's demonic get isn't disgust or fear or anything of the sort, but to attack AKU for it as if he could protect her from that fact.
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>>92389044
Scaramouche contributed nothing to the story after he relayed the info to Aku. A rematch would have been boring, so at best he'd only contribute as a background character in a final army vs army situation, but that would also be boring and pointless and not really feature his character either.
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>>92404202
He could've been a b-list fight for Ashi, but the whole demonspawn reveal makes that kinda unworkable, and frankly I don't think he'd be competitive with her.

Scaramouche is literally named for his role in the season. Dude's a clown. He did his role and bowed out when expected. He got more time than most amusing bit villains did on the show.
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>female
I'm sure it's 100% evil
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>>92386052
No. It was foreshadowed and explains a lot. But it's Ashi so it's awful no matter what.

And let's just be honest here, there is literally no scenario where people are gonna be even close to satisfied with the ending. No matter what happens, /co/ will hate it.
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БAMURAI DROP
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>>92403251
That mean Ashi is the most Aku-alike of the sisters, right?

>Strongest of the sisters
>Question authority instead of being a mindless puppet
>Ruthless assassin (technically they all are but Ashi seems to enjoy a little too much the killing and she killed her own mother)

No wonder why Jack loves her
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>>92404630
On the other hand...

>loves weak and harmless things
>loves nature
>protective of children
>does not hate the FOOLISH SAMURAI
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>>92404460
>But it's Ashi so it's awful no matter what.
I'm so fucking tired of you ashifags twisting shit like this, fuck off cunts
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>>92402733
If they literally kill Aku with love I'm going to hang myself. That's how disappointed I would be.
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>>92404784
That's her human side.

Also, love and hate are 2 sides of the same coin
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>>92388442
Pls survive
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>>92405333
>If they literally kill Aku with love I'm going to hang myself.

That's already what the sword does.
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>>92387054
She has white skin.
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>>92388442
let's see
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>>92390349
I thought samurai jack was the cartoon equivalent to the second coming of a fucking deity according to you peeps.
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>>92396170
And the flashbacks show she did. This is textbook the kind of editing that says "what he says is what happened"
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will they ever invent some sort of technology that's like, a ray gun where you shoot a picture of a cartoon character and then it transports the character into the real world with all their memories and personality? I'm asking for a friend btw
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>>92396620
But there's nothing stupid about it. She's the product of human gestation and evil essence. So she's human with a part fo Aku inside. that's it.
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>>92405768
Depends on the version. She often has a grayish complexion that lacks the reddish tones that come from blood in light-skinned humans. She looks about how a light-skinned human would with black blood, though IIRC she blushes purple.
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>>92406004
Quit making this cringe inducing post you fucking autist
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>>92386419

Genndy loves tropes. Stop pulling false facts out of your ass.
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>>92402989
But they said they had seen Aku before. It's in the leader's dialogue.
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>>92396981
>Jack finally defeats Aku
>Aku's essence vaporizes and he fades away
>ALL of Ali's essence
>Jack, thinking that he saved Ashi, turns to face her
>She screams in agony as her body at the molecular level splits up and dissipates

Can't really figure out what from there though
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>>92386470
That's part of the evil.
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Why did Ahi smiled? Because Jacko has little swordo?
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>>92408440
>Visibly excited to get naked in front of jack again
>Visibly disappointed when he stops
Girl is head over heels in love
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>>92408440
She likes what she sees.

And she doesn't get to see Jack just being casual very often.
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>>92408440
ship tease a g a i n
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>>92408440
No, because that samurai's dick was
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>>92408440
Well, he is asian after all.
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>>92401862
Hack being destined to use the portal but never getting to use it is a retcon.
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>>92409736
I mean, maybe Jack fucked up the prophecy by losing his sword and 'missed his appointment.'

Or maybe he'll grow 'old,' his future loved ones will pass, and only then will he return to the past.
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It was clearly latent. And was always being hinted at, what with the super strength and the ability to survive a huge drop off a cliff.
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>>92409454
>making ashi versions of memes
the fandom has hit the barrier of retardation that steven universe and adventure time fans create
>>
>>92409933
It exists specifically for her scoping Jack, and it was a fucking Samurai Jack meme to begin with. Calm your tits.
>>
>>92409454
make it say extra dick
>>
>>92410882
this
>>
>>92409933
your counter-retardation is no better

>ree i hate fun
>>
>>92386052
They're literally called the DAUGHTERS of AKU
>>
>>92410931
>>ree i hate fun
You're right, using that in response to someone being pissed off about anything is no better.
>>
>>92406003
>flashback
That's just his imagination.
>>
>>92411666
Well satan, even though I'm inclined to agree with you, the season has been very literal so far, especially involving Aku.
For example
>"fun fact, that was the last time portal in existence"
>oh shit maybe he forgot about the guardians portal!
>episode 9
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>>92386052
>50% demon
>50% human
>looks human and seems normal aside from having superpowers

It's not that uncommon a trope fampai.
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>>92386052
>plot twist
>Called the daughters of Aku in the first episode
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>>92413195
Yeah but dante also looks like a demon pretty often post 3, due to embracing his powers.
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>>92386052
>50% pure evil
did somebody call for purification
Is mission sacred enough to kill Aku
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>>92413220
It's a twist because nowadays everything in media is metaphorical, and it seems like this whole season is making a point of subverting when you think something is just a metaphor or figure of speech.
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>prior to the reveal it is generally accepted that they're weird fangirls
>after the reveal hundreds of 'nuh it was so obvious you guys are stupid' posts
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>>92413752
THIS

>there are people who can't into thematic plotting and metphors
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>>92386513
Can you spoonfeed me, please?
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