It's crazy how even the "good" guys had to recruit

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>>92352199

Oh, it's hard to think of a setting darker than Worm.

Consider this: Sveta is, by any measure, a horriffic monster.

And yet, she's one of the most sympathetic characters in the book, and I sincerely hope she and Weld live happily ever after.

...I have doubts. Although she is tough enough to attack the Golden Idiot head-on and get away.

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Moord Nag.

She showed up late, but wow. What a presence.

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Speaking of child soldiers: Vista

"It's like the worlds all wet clay, and I'm just smoodging it around...."

Holy shit, what a mind-boggling powerhouse. She was affected the world so much she was making the HORIZON all weird and misshapen.

What is this

>>92352559
>Oh, it's hard to think of a setting darker than Worm.
It's weird but because we were eased into the setting I didn't realize how bad it was until I compared the setting to one in a post-canon fanfic that was pretty nice and normal. They did a joke about having less racism and I was like, "huh, Worm world WAS pretty racist."

>>92352783
Worm. A capeshit serial/modern epic. I mean "epic" in the traditional sense.

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I always though Parian was cool as hell, and frankly, stupidly powerful.

I mean, come on, her first battle was against an Endbringer, and then she tackled the Slaughterhouse Nine as an encore, and not only did she survive, she came out of it completely uninjured!

Well, physically, anyway.

>>92352199
Need context
Sinopsis in 140 characters?

>>92352958
Taylor Hebart goes from bullied teenager to vicious and horrifying villain into a Legend.

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But there's also cute, too! Is it possible to get any cuter than these two? Which, considering what was going down around them, was a serious feat.

No wonder they're considered superhumans!

>>92352958

Superhero setting
BBEG crazy powerful
"Good" guys needed to resort to some shady shit to even hope to win, such as human experimentation, government infiltration, unduly influencing society, etc.

>>92352952
She had an army with her for the endbringer, and wasn't a main target of the nine. She is strong though.

>>92352559
I don't think that's what made it dark. It sure was good writing though.

>>92352958
>>>92352199 (OP)
>Need context


Search for Worm Web Serial, you'll find it.

It's a cape novel, goes from bullied teenager to beyond super-epic. Has inspired fuck-tons of fanart, thousands on Patreon despite the author not advertising or shilling in the slightest, huge fanbase, etc.

>>92353080
>She is strong though.


She's the hand-picked successor of the Warlord of Brockton Bay, and the heroes never did take the city back. Says plenty.

>>92352958

Worm.

Now completed cape webnovel series with expanded universe, "dark and gritty" but with black comedy, excellent well rounded characters who react to dark and gritty circumstances usually entirely believably and attempt to help themselves and each other rather than just moping, clearly defined but imaginative power sets where the global power source is in fact story relevant and pretty well thought out. More X-men than Justice League. Damn fine writing in general.

Kind of unimaginative but massively complex plot lines, major lack of editing, massive decompression (10 novel series).

The MC is the meme of spider-man where he convinces bank robbers to release their hostages by pretending his power is to summon and control actual spiders, except thats what her powers are for real, and for all insects.

>>92353146
>>92352958
>Has inspired fuck-tons of fanart, thousands on Patreon despite the author not advertising or shilling in the slightest, huge fanbase, etc.
Also even then non-autistic sector of the reading/writing population praise it.

>>92353179
I haven't finished yet but was she picked by Taylor or Grue?

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This is Skitter.

She has a super power, that lets her control bugs.

It's much, much worse than it sounds.

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>>92352958
World where extreme trauma can give you superpowers. In a road to hell paved with good intentions, bullied Highschool Girl turns High Level Supervillian.

>>92352199
how is this comics or cartoons

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>>92353507
It's capeshit. Good enough.

Never have I wanted to see a fight animated as much as the battle with Leviathan.

>>92353507
>/co/ - Cartoons & Capeshit

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Meet Khepri.

So far, she's conquered every version of planet Earth she's opened portals to, subsumed several thousand capes, and now she's going head-on with God Himself with the combined power of five thousand superhumans.

It's been a busy morning.

Worm is not very good and if it had real popularity people would talk about that.

>>92353438
Okay, I keep hearing about this series but I never really wanted to read it, all that I know is that Bug Girl here manages to defeat some real overpowered motherfuckers with her insect control.
So the one million dollars question is:
How the hell does she does it without it being a "this looks like a job for Aquaman" or "I can speak all languages, therefore I can speak the language of the universe to warp reality" kind of deal?

>>92352199

It's war. And sometimes such niceties have little place in it. It sucks, but if it comes between moral compunctions or getting conquered by an implacable foe out to kill you, you can count on the latter every time

>Worm is set in a fictional universe known as 'Earth Bet'. This universe differs from reality by a point of divergence. In 1982, a golden man appeared, floating in the air over the ocean. 5 years after his appearance, a fraction of humans developed the ability to gain superpowers when placed in an incredibly traumatic and stressful situation, known as a 'trigger event'. As an example, Taylor 'triggers' when bullies lock her inside a locker stuffed with month-old used tampons. After being left there for several hours, she snaps, and gains the ability to control simple macroscopic organisms.
>As an example, Taylor 'triggers' when bullies lock her inside a locker stuffed with month-old used tampons.
lol this sounds like fucking trash

>>92352199
And yet nobody bats an eye when Batman does it.

>>92353868
It actually build's up a really interesting sci-fi world. It's hard to think of it as just capeshit really.

>>92353957
Hey! I've been a very open denouncer of Batman.

>>92353796
>How the hell does she does it without it being a "this looks like a job for Aquaman" or "I can speak all languages, therefore I can speak the language of the universe to warp reality" kind of deal?

She's very cagey in how she uses her powers. And, to be honest, there's a lot of room inside 'controlling bugs'.

She can control a single insect down to the way it twitches it's antenna and the patter of it's walking.

Or she can control a trillion insects at once...down to the twitching of every antenna, and the pattern of every step.

One bug isn't such a big deal.

A trillion bugs....

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>>92354265
>She's very cagey in how she uses her powers.
She hams it up?

>>92354325
>She hams it up?

Heh, you can say a lot of things about Taylor (misguided, ruthless, well-meaning, mean as a bag of scorpions, horrifying, earnest, etc) but 'ham' is not really apt.

>>92353868
I thought the same thing, but I gave it a chance and happened to like it far more than anything I've seen from Marvel or DC.

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Taylor's super power is not a gentle one, on herself, or on others.

>>92353078

Dykes.

So overdone in webcomics they've officially become boring. Besides, there no point in getting aroused by a type of person who would NEVER date or have sex with you.

>>92354761
how do you get aroused by anything then

>>92354761
Thanks for your shitty input autismo.

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Best endbringer coming through.

>>92355337
EVERYONE OUTTA THE FUCKING WAY I GOTTA GO MURK SOME BITCH-ASS CAPES REAL QUICK

FUCK SCION HE'S A PUSSY

HAHAH FUCK U BEHEMOTH SEE U WHEN U GET HERE U SLOW CUNT

>>92353796
It's really her backup power that does it. Perfect multitasking with constant sensory input and situational-spacial awareness makes for a hell of an on the fly strategizer. Taylor fights smarter than a lot of her opponents, and gets fucking lucky a lot of others.

She isn't OP.

>>92354894

Quite easily. On a theoretical basis, any straight fictional female could have a relationship with a straight male in the real world. Granted the whole reality thing is in the way. But if said female character existed in the real world, a guy might be able to court her. Easier said than done, obviously, but within the realm of possibility

But even in the real world a lesbian would never have sex with a man. At least not willingly. Thats kind of thew whole point with homosexuals. They only have sex with their own kind.

>>92356146
I'd consider the gulf between fiction and reality much more of an obstacle than homo and heterosexuality.

>>92355123

Not shitty. Well founded in reason and logic.

Also, fact. Not opinion.


And you're welcome, even though your thanks was obviously not sincere.

>>92356146
i was literally just BMing you, this is so autistic it hurts

none of these characters are real you fucking sped

>>92356329
how many times in the last 12 hours have you jerked off to pornographic adaptions of animation for the 8-13 age group

>>92356294

It would appear that you did not read the part of my statement that stated in no uncertain terms:

>Granted the whole reality thing is in the way.

>>92356329
>"REEEEEEE LESBIANS WON'T HAVE SEX WITH ME"
>logic and reason

>>92355911
I just don't really see how this would help at all against someone that can't be harmed by insects, like, she probably could sent her insects to suffocate a flying brick by flying into his nose and mouth, or get into a powered armor circuits and fry it, but what if she has to fight a fire guy? Like a Human Torch type. What are insects going to do against a guy that is on fire?

>>92356146
You are a literal retard. No, this is not how sexuality works.

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>>92355911
Also she gets supported by several important thinkers in the background. Coil, Dianh, tattletale, ziz, The Queen administrator and the fedora bitch are all throwing their chips into tay's side of affairs for many of the encounters.

>>92356812
Saying what you're saying makes both gays and straights absolutely shit themselves in rage.

>>92356341

I in no way stated they WERE real. Go back and read what I said. And this time why don't you try doing it with your eyes open

And SPED is for people with limited cerebral functions. I am clearly looking at this in a purely logical level. If anyone is lacking in intellect, it's you. You clearly have little in the way of reading comprehension

>>92356430

Twice. However to straight female characters who WOULD canonically have sex with a male if they existed in reality.

>>92356673
She fought a fire guy. She beat him by waiting for him to lift her up and gloat and then flew a bug covered with another superhero's superpowered poison blood onto his eyeball. The best part about the action scenes are see her thought processes for battle strategies and her on the fly (heh!) tactical thinking.

>>92356630

Yes, that IS logic and reason. I would not expect a lesbian to have sex with me.

>>92355911
>>92353796
She's not really that OP its just that most of her enemies either go full retard when fighting her like Coil or the plot bullshits her a win it long ago should have been impossible. Somehow she became worse than batgod.

>>92356812

As a matter of fact it does. Your irrationality notwithstanding of course,

>>92357438
You've been off topic from the get-go. Please just leave.

>>92357469
>like Coil


Whaaat?!

Taylor didn't fight Coil, Tattletale fought Coil, by faking him into thinking he'd won and waiting until he used up his 'fail safe' reality.

Once he used his power in the presence of all of Tattletale's traitors, Coil had no way out. Up until that moment, he was invincible.

True fact: Taylor was the muscle, but Tattletale was the brains.

>>92357469
>like Coil
How did Coil go full retard exactly? The completely backed him into a corner at the end.

>>92357829
>True fact: Taylor was the muscle, but Tattletale was the brains.
She had said as much. Taylor was only boss on the battlefield.

>>92357832
>>92357829
Honestly I meant to put them getting out of his killbox thing as bullshit, also him showing off his pet oricle to minions that he knew where of supremely questionable loyalty was pretty dumb.

>>92356513
No I did. I'm just surprised your hangup is the lesbian part rather than the fictional part.

The real secret is that you're not supposed to masturbate to anyone in Worm though.

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>>92358054
And the bedroom. WOG was Tattletale is effectively asexual since she got her powers, since 30 seconds after meeting somebody she already knows their deal-breakers.

>>92358168
I'd agree if Dinah hadn't been sabotaging Coil as much as possible. She guided him to the path with the lowest chance of success.

>>92352199
This is the series where the AI is the only person who could be considered truly good.

>>92358168
>Honestly I meant to put them getting out of his killbox thing as bullshit
Precog told her what to do.

>>92358530
Yes. Dragon.

>>92358514
I would sabotage him too if he called me pet and made me addicted to drugs.
>>92358578
And she pairs herself with efficiency.

>>92353583
It would look something like Homura's battle with Walpurgisnacht except with a lot more death.

>>92358341
lol Fuck.

>>92358801
She's better off than the one who turned her sister into a blob of flesh.

>>92354265

IMO, at the end of the day it wasn't just the fact that she could control bugs that gave Taylor such a massive tactical advantage, it was the Thinker aspect of her shard that gave her a nigh-infinite ability to multitask.

How do you think the transition to Khepri would have gone if it had happened through a regular secondary trigger, and not Panacea's power? Would Taylor have kept more of herself or been even further gone?

Also, did she lose an arm at some point or am I imagining that?

>>92358530
>Weld
>Miss Milita
>Dr.Yamada

>>92359128
Sveta crushed it and Taylor got Lung to burn it off for her.

>>92359128

Pretty sure she lost an arm around the oil tanker part of the Scion battle.

>>92359239
And Grue.
But we don't mention him.

>>92358341
>30 seconds after meeting somebody she already knows their deal-breakers.
psh that might be a good enough reason not to marry them, but why would casual sex be off the table?

>>92359128
Wouldn't her having a secondary trigger event at the end be better than the Panacea thing?

>>92359375
Anything is better when Amy isn't touching it.

>>92359297

Bye bye, Taylor's only chance at romance

>>92359420
Don't be mean. Amy's a good girl. She didn't know no better.

>>92359375
I dunno, it's kind of a cliche. I like that Taylor removing her limiters was a premeditated thing rather than an act of desperation at a climactic moment.

>>92359128
So, would she never have had her actual second trigger?

>>92359463
Um tell that to Vicky. Oh you can't because she's been turned into a giant blob of flesh that can only communicate through blinking.

>>92359497
I don't know it just feels a little convenient that Panacea could do that shit the whole time.

>>92358341
I thought that was a joke to excuse her from an end of the world orgy.

>>92359502
Didn't the characters hint at one point that Taylor already had her second trigger, almost immediately after the first?

>>92359555
She got better.

>>92359822
It just took two years.

>>92359161
And Legend.

It's been around two years since I finished this. I remember enjoying it but the end seemed a bit of a mess.

>>92358530
Despite generally being douchebags, the Dragonslayers made some pretty good points.

What happened to Imp?

>>92360212
She's raising Regent's fucked up siblings.

>>92360205
I really enjoyed the ending, at least everything after Golden Morning. The stuff between the timeskip and Golden Morning was pretty awkward.

>>92360212
Who?

>>92359712
But I mean, panacea's stuff couldn't have come from a secondary trigger, since she had already had one. So in the case that Taylor triggered a second time and became khepri, would she not have her magical multitasking or something?

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I hadn't heard of this before. Looks pretty damn good so far.

You did good today, OP.

>>92360896
The Star Wars prequels sucked on both Earth Aleph and Earth Bet.

>>92360669
The way I understood it, a parahuman's passenger wants to keep its host alive, so there's limits imposed on the the power to prevent the parahuman from destroying himself. The passenger uses the host's experiences to try to figure out what is safe and optimal, so in the case of a second trigger event, it's the passenger re-assessing what powers to give to its host. Since Khepri was such a danger to herself and lost a lot of her higher brain functions, I think she would be pretty useless for what a passenger wants, so she could only exist by removing those limits manually, not through a trigger.

>>92353146
Thousands because he's written more than Brandon Sanderson and at comparable speed (although I'm not sure if McCrae is able to do 3000 words a day).

>>92359463
Amy confirmed for lesbian waifu.

>>92361088
I think Wildbow averages ~5000 words per chapter and ~2.5 chapters per week, so he could probably do 3000 words a day but the quality of his work would suffer.

>>92359065
It annoys me how much the shards get used to explain character attributes.
.

>>92361251
Powers are fucking bullshit man.

Haven't read this in ages but I always thought that one low tier healer was pretty cool concept. The one that healed people by finding their alternate dimension selves who weren't fucked up to boost healing speeds.

>>92356673
Its not just throwing bugs at people. As others said, she exploits them to their maximum potential.

For example she actually at one point has armor made for herself by gathering these rare as fuck spider and having them spin silk constently.

She keeps huge swarms prepped and on the ready by spending time subconsciously gathering them.

She also could control crabs to an extent. But that doesn't come into play.

>>92361251
Taylor's multitasking isn't, like, part of her personality though. It's powerful enough that no unaugmented human would be able to do it. Hell, it's fast and precise enough that it probably breaks physical laws.

>>92353005
Herbart

>>92361450
>She also could control crabs to an extent. But that doesn't come into play.
oh yeah I remember that, what the fuck? All through the story I was wondering if she was going to do something with that.

>>92361498

Hebrart

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>>92361498

>Herbert.

It's Hebert.

>>92361603
Post-Epilogue, she opens a fish shop with Black Manta.

>>92361603
Crabs just aren't useful.

taylor sherbet

>>92361702
Only if she wakes up from her coma.

>>92361488

>Hell, it's fast and precise enough that it probably breaks physical laws.

The shards just constantly give the middle finger to physics. They're probably all self-contained hyper-capable quantum computers, and they're able to siphon energy from alternate universes to circumvent local physical laws.

>>92361818
She did. You read that part didn't you?

>>92361826
Tinkers are bullshit.

>>92361674
where's Khonsu?

>>92353633
And she is the most despised creature in the multiverse.

>>92361488
I just liked the idea that ,besides her insect power, 5hat she was really clever.

But my problem with shards extend beyond that. Why did Amy turn Glory into what she did? Because the shards got angry. Why is the world of Worm so messed up? Not due to the problems of human nature, but because the shards. It sucks a lot of the ambiguity from the story, to some degree.

>>92362753
It's more like shards working in concert with humans, not controlling them outright. The shards would deliberately seek out disturbed individuals because they were the most likely to create conflict. That's why trigger events are associated with trauma.

>>92362753
In Amy's case. Severe PTSD, mental exhaustion and temporary insanity.

>>92359712
>>>92359502
>Didn't the characters hint at one point that Taylor already had her second trigger, almost immediately after the first?

Yes, Doctor Mother (and wow, what a horrifying psychopath SHE was) told Taylor she double-triggered at the very beginning, which is one of many reasons she's a fucking juggernaut, despite being so insecure she never believes it.

Also, it's why the mental trauma from her trigger put her in the hospital for a month until she figured out how to shut down most of her power.

I mean, it took her years of daily combats to finally get her swarmsense working right.

>>92359324
Imagine you know the most disgusting shit about somebody. And not just that high tier shit, you know the little things about them that are going to annoy the shit out of you. The way they refuse to take credit for a fart, their tendency to slurp their drinks, etc. Now you learn all of this about any prospect before they have talked with you for a minute... would you fucking bother trying to get that dick in you?

>>92359822
>>>92359555
>She got better.


Did Panacea un-fuck Glory Girl at the end? I'm not talking the physical stuff, I'm pretty sure Amy would have put her body back.

I'm talking the OTHER stuff.

>>92363292
Oh you mean the making her a lesbian thing?
Not a clue.

>>92354265
So it's like Killua's brother killing people with confetti.

>>92362753
It doesn't bother me it doesn't simply explain away the moral quandaries explored in the series but it provides a reasonable basis for settings over the top nature that's inherent in being about superheroes.

>>92360039
>>>92359161
>And Legend.


Dude, Legend was BALL'S DEEP up Cauldron. Even if he was just a patsy, fuck him.

>>92361049
Yeah, Wildbow said it wasn't a second trigger but most like what you said. A breakdown of the limits at a very high cost.

>>92363369
In Taylor's case it was most of her higher brain functions.

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>>92361978
Khonsu is there? The grey one? Behemouth is the only one missing on account of being dead.

>>92363282
>And not just that high tier shit, you know the little things about them that are going to annoy the shit out of you. The way they refuse to take credit for a fart, their tendency to slurp their drinks, etc.
I mean... isn't that just marriage?
I assume that if I can bear their company enough to share meals with them, hug them, call them my friends, then they're still fuckable at least on some level.

>>92363556
Remember this is all Eidolon's fault.

Makes you wonder if Wildbow is going to follow through with letting it get optioned for a TV show. I doubt it'll work - the amount of CGI'd make it prohibitively expensive, even if HBO or Amazon tried to get in on it.

Plus the guy said everyone who'd approached him so far wanted some really stupid shit changed.

I mean, maybe you could make a cartoon or anime, but unless your studio's got talent, modernized its pipeline and optimized it for the ridiculous amounts of CGI that, again, would be needed, there's no chance of it working out. So that knocks out the chances of a cartoon happening (what with the biggest studios already owning capeshit IP), and the same for an anime, because as far as I know, only like two studios have totally mastered CGI.

>>92363594
How about Gen Urobuchi's studio?

>>92363292
Probably. I mean at this point I doubt Amy wants her to feel that way about her. Maybe not hate her but even if she gets her back perfect she can never be intimate with her.

>>92363640
What, Nitro+? Or were you talking about Ufotable?

>>92363710
No I mean the mind behind Madoka Magica.

>>92363593
You needed worthy opponents

Though in Eve-Earth they more or less still existed so they were always part of the plan.

>>92363594
Apparently Wildbow has gotten at least eight offers for adaptations. Not just for Worm though, at least one was for Twig, which would be awesome.

But yeah, I think an animated series would probably be the best route.

>>92360212
>What happened to Imp?

Imp is the leader/Mom/Big Sister of the Heartbreakers, one of the components of the new Undersiders.There are at least twelve of the Heartbreakers, and they've ALL got powers like Alec and Cherie. Holy Fuck.

Bitch is the leader of the Sons of Bitch (aka, The Wild Hunt), another component of the Undersiders.

Cozen is the leader of the Red Hands, yet another component of the Undersiders.

Parian is the leader of the Needlepoints, which is, you guessed it, another component of the Undersiders. This should be offputting, since Parian has enough power, WOG, to fight an Endbringer to a standstill by herself, never mind what Foil brings to the table.

Tattletale leads the Undersiders, and since she's a fucking Thinker Nine or higher, combined with at least a good dose of Trump and Stranger, who has at least five fanatically loyal and stupidly-powerful super teams under her command, and who has taken over at least several of the New Earths all for her own, Ta-Ta is doing all right.

Except she still can't get laid.

>>92363688
Remember this is all because of Vicky's aura.

>>92363594
Where did he talk about that? Did he give examples?

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The slaughterhouse 9 go to gotham city instead of brockton bay.

What happens?

>>92363736
Yeah, as far as writing is concerned him and Wildbow are two peas in a pod.

>>92363806
Bonesaw gets new playmates.

>>92363736
and Fate/Zero and Saya no Uta
Urobuchi is great when he's doing most of the writing, the intensity of his work reminds of Wildbow a lot

>>92363827
>>92363848
So he should do the Worm anime.

>>92363774
>Parian has enough power, WOG, to fight an Endbringer to a standstill by herself
how the fuck does that work
I guess we'll find out in Worm 2

>>92361674

ok, that's pretty damn funny

>>92363789
I lifted half of my information off his Reddit history, the rest is scattered on forums like SpaceBattles.

>>92363972
Apparently Gallant's a cauldron cape.

>>92363594
Shit, I just want him to do the sequel already, the guy does have a degenerative disease I worry his health won't hold out long enough to do the second one if he takes too long.

A cartoon would distract from that and I worry nobody will give it the budget it needs to do the whole thing justice.

>>92361826
>>>92361488
>>Hell, it's fast and precise enough that it probably breaks physical laws.

You realize what Taylors shard was, right?

It was the 'core router' shard that combined all the other shards into the Entities bodies.

There at the end, she was literally forming humanity into a new Entity, to fight off the Golden God.

No wonder her brain burned out.

>>92363877
well like I said he's most talented at writing, and Worm is already written, so it would just be like every other anime that they have him involved for one episode so they can slap his name on as a marketing ploy

>>92364014
Wait what?!
Really?!

>>92364014
>Shit, I just want him to do the sequel already, the guy does have a degenerative disease I worry his health won't hold out long enough to do the second one if he takes too long.
I knew he had hearing problems but I didn't know that. I guess that must be coming through in Twig a lot.

I'm a little worried that Worm 2 won't be able to live up to the expectations set by Worm, but then again if it's as good as Twig then that's good enough for me.

>>92363744
>Though in Eve-Earth they more or less still existed so they were always part of the plan.

The Endbringers were created by Eve to serve as 'pot-stirrers' for humanity. A steady, low-grade series of apocalyptic cataclysms, to steadily erode all of humankind's works, so that all that was left was the powers, fighting against each other and the threat of the next Endbringer attack.

Like an open-world boss event, only...real.

Eidolon probably triggered them by accident, since he got Eve's selection/editing shard.

>>92364077
>>92364125
He said it somewhere in spacebattles, it didn't seem like he was joking. :(

>>92363903
Apparently there's a "true use" for her power that she hasn't figured our or at least hasn't revealed.

>>92363806
Glass explodes, Many people die. Even if all the stuff in the batcave is safe from that(i doubt it), the rest of the city is a mess. Phones, computers, lights, all literally exploding in peoples faces. There's nothing any of the heroes or vilains of Gotham to do to stop the Siberian if they don't know about Manton, or the Crawler without a fair bit of time. And while they focus on those two, the city is on fire, everyone is killing themselves, and the effects of whatever plague Bonesaw releases. gotham gets fucked.

>>92363806
Commissioner Gordon rapes Mannequin.

>>92363806
>What happens?

Very very bad shit.

Siberian can bitchslap Superman, easy.
Crawler can handle just about anybody else.

Which leaves only Burnscar, Mannequin, and Shatterbird to kill everybody in Gotham. Will probably take a week or so.

It'd be fun watching what Bonesaw does to Joker, though. Because you KNOW they'd recruit him.

>>92364024
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what are your thoughts on twig thus far?
we are almost approaching the end so i guess its time to get our early judgements of the thing as a whole
who is /best lamb/?

>>92364493
After today's update I'm a little scared.

But overall it's a fantastic read.

>>92364285
I mean, the only thing I could think of would be some sort of ripping power.

>>92364493
>who is /best lamb/?
Jamie ofc, bromance tier

>>92364285
i guess that explains on some level why he is such a workaholic
he is desperatly trying to cram as much creative input in his short lifespan, also twig became like a million times more depressing, specially considering the more recent chapters

>>92363806

Top row: Crawler, Burnscar, Shatterbird, Cherish, Hackjob
Bottom Row: Siberian, Jack Slash, Bonesaw, Mannequin

Wow, those are ridiculously awesome.

>>92364493
I fucking loved the God chapter.
>>92363877
His editor page on the Worm wiki says he's a big fan of Madoka Magica and Bokurano.

>>92364786
But does he ship Madohomu?

>>92364825
seems like he would, given he has a thing for tragic homosexual romances

>>92364493
I'm not quite done yet but so far "Black Sheep" (arc 13) is my favorite arc in Twig. I cried during Arc 8 though.

>>92364866
That's because suffering is fun.

>>92363903
>how the fuck does that work

We've already seen her make those huge dolls that are tough enough to soak up multiple hits from both Leviathan and Behemoth.

Suppose she just makes up...fifty of them.

Or five hundred.

Who knows what she could do with some time and a dose of combat experience and courage?

Plus, let's not forget that she manipulates cloth and needles, but she can handle anything tiny.

Imagine a sandstorm made of diamond crystals, for example. Or tiny droplets of brodifacoum that she coats the inside of your lungs with. Hell, what's to stop her from just sewing your eyelids together, or sewing your fingers together, or your arms and legs together.

Her power is HORRIFYING. If Taylor had Parian's power, she would have killed everybody by now.

It's a darn good thing Sabah has a heart of gold and is as gentle as a lamb.

>>92352199

ding dong the X-men story called

>>92364786
>he called himself god
that is right up there with worthy opponets as one of the most powerful quotes from wildbow
and the fact that it ruined mauers religion is frosting on the cake
>>92364613
the first one, the second one or the female one?

>>92365064
What do they want, to be beaten at their own game in an utterly humiliating fashion again?

>>92365330
>the first one, the second one or the female one?
yes

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>>92364966
refresh me what happens in those?
the one i remember affecting me the most was the one where second jamie meets him after he escapes and the one where jamie leaves him after their fiasco with lilian
and obviously the one where jamie becomes jessie

>>92365503
arc 8 was when jamie 2 told sy about jamie 1's secret notebook code
arc 13 was the lambs hunting down sy, followed by sy kidnapping lillian

>>92365330
Which chapter was the God one?

>>92366274
9.x

>>92366329
Thanks.

>>92365609
That Sy with Lillian chapter was weird, cause aren't they preteens?

>>92367461
at that point they were older, I think Lillian was 15-16 and Sy was a little younger than Lillian, age unknown
I think Wildbow might have retconned Sy's age up a bit? There's a line in one chapter where he says that he thought he was younger because he was so short, then he had to revise it to account for stunted growth from the poisons.

Worm threads give me boners a-plenty.

Worm may have too many problems to be a truly great book,

But that fucking shit has too few problems to not be the best comic I've ever goddamn read.

>>92368368
>Worm may have too many problems to be a truly great book,
just because it was a long-running serial
many people would consider Harry Potter to be a series of truly great books

>>92368491
It's in dire need of some real editing 2bh. It's a great story but not an entirely well written one

>>92368757
yeah that's fair
when I was reading it there were a lot of combat scenes that went on for way too long, and I think it would have been a lot more enjoyable if they were edited down

it's probably something that doesn't matter when you're reading serially, since you want some action in every chapter, but it fucks up the pacing if you read archivally

>>92368368
>But that fucking shit has too few problems to not be the best comic I've ever goddamn read.
Wait, is it a comic? I thought it was a prose serial.

>>92352199
Having read this it really started to go to shit once they went firmly beyond the street level.

That's not to say that the street level stuff was good. For what was supposed to be if not if not master criminals because they're teens then competent ones a lot of the shit they did was kind of stupid. And the way they played the games of manipulation and planning really came off as contrived and that's before tattletale gets involved.

Still enjoyed it though. Even if Jesus it started to drag on.

>MC can control insects
>somehow kills a character who is literally invulnerable, can fly and can lift 2 million tons
You know how I know this is some bullshit fanfic tier shit?

>>92369603
How does any of that help when a sudden rush of bugs crawl into your lungs?

>>92369603
It's the Goku rule. Even if you're the strongest person in the galaxy, you still have to breathe.

>>92369627
>>92369644
This is a good illustration of the problem and the fanwanking-tier writing of Worm, which is this: that's not a complex method. If that were a method which would work, then it ought to have been done already.

You don't even need to be able to control bugs to do that. There are hundreds if not thousands of powers in the serial which could do it, and you could just do it with actual physical materials too. Powerlevels in Worm suck shit because only the MC, mostly, is even giving this autistic kind of "what is the furthest extension of the power possible" logic of their powers and the same implications as they apply to other, vastly stronger powers, go ignored where they conflict with that.

>>92352199
I'm kinda interested but this entire thread seems like one big shill fest.

>>92369778
No shit? She's the main character. That's like complaining about rubberman powers in One Piece.

>>92369778
>If that were a method which would work, then it ought to have been done already.
It specifically said that people had tried to drown her before. That was the way Taylor gleaned her weakness but it also wasn't something that was necessarily common knowledge or that tons of people could exploit.

>"what is the furthest extension of the power possible" logic of their powers and the same implications as they apply to other, vastly stronger powers, go ignored where they conflict with that.
Because not everyone has the same tactical mind to be able to apply their powers the same why Taylor does. Every character can't be written the same and Taylor just happened to be a battlefield genius. Wilbow could have otherwise evened the odd by giving her and OP ability from the start. You're just being ridiculously obtuse for some reason.

>>92369864
>thread for obscure internet thing
>full of people who like it
Who'd a thunk?

>>92369915
Yes, cutting off airflow truly is the work of a battlefield genius.

This honestly reminds me of like, the 'Humanity Fuck Yeah!' fiction /tg/ goes on about where the way to make humanity a badass is to make every alien species a retarded cripple.

>>92369915
>Every character can't be written the same and Taylor just happened to be a battlefield genius

It takes a genius to figure out that people need to breath?

>>92369935
>>92369958
reading comprehension, asshole

>>92369935
>>92369958
Do you know that she had more than one fight? You actually retarded?

>>92369915
Except nothing Taylor did was all that intelligent.

For as much as the series gets praised for how smart it is, a lot of the times it comes down to stupid plans somehow working out.

>>92369481
dunno where you draw the line at "street level" but I think my favorite parts were when she was securing her territory and building up her lair. That's what I missed most after the Slaughterhouse 9 arc.

I still liked a lot of the epic scale stuff though, like the Travelers arc and Gold Morning. Not so much the Endbringers or the Slaughterhouse 9000.

>>92370136
>a lot of the times it comes down to stupid plans somehow working out.
For example?

>>92370165
The fight with Armsmaster where she gets the upper hand by pulling the bug equivalent of pocket sand on a genius level intellect who knew they were going to fight.

>>92370213
Eh. I don't remember that fight well.

batman is supposed to be the world's greatest detective but in reality he solves all of his problems with punching and spending huge sums of money on absurdly impractical tech

>>92370213
What're you implying about pocket sand anon?

>>92370230
He kicks the shit out of her entire team but after a cheesy monologue she pocket sands him.

>>92370248
You mean she was backed into a corner stops him with a distraction then makes a diversion. Seems pretty sound.

>>92370213
Armsmaster was only a technological genius, he was kind of a doofus otherwise. His whole thing was that his crippling autism kept him from advancing professionally, and he was only good in combat if he was able to practice the scenario in a simulator 10,000 times.

>>92370285
So this technologically gifted autistic who plans shit thoroughly in his head it never occured to that she might just swarm his ass with bugs?

It never occured to him that she might do what literally everyone's first go to for those powers would be?

>>92370305
Did you even read the story? It DID occur to him, which is why he came up with a solution that fit his brand of intelligence. He developed a technological solution, and it worked for a while.

>>92370305
It did as I recall which is why he had that bug killer thing on his Halberd which Taylor took away and threw off the side of the building.

>>92370315
Which is why the accusation of stupid plans somehow working because of contrivances was being brought up.

His plan to avoid being swarmed by bugs was to just have a bug zapper.

Ignoring the fact that that's kind of a stupid fucking plan the question arises of how has this guy gone so far in his career without ever having someone try to gas his ass. Because she had hornets do the job. Big fucking hornets so they weren't even sneaking through minuscule gaps.

The fact that his solution was his staff just screamed of I need a way for her to win this in an intelligent way but I need it to look impressive.
>>92370311
And that solution was retarded.

>>92370348
>His plan to avoid being swarmed by bugs was to just have a bug zapper.
How the fuck is that not a sound plan?
Also there's the fact that all of Armsmaster's tech at that time was centered around his halberd from the beginning.

>the question arises of how has this guy gone so far in his career without ever having someone try to gas his ass
It's not like every member of the protectorate was running around in gasmasks.

>>92370348
When you've got a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Armsmaster has his staff, it's well-established that he desired glory, it's not out of character for him to devise a showy new device to win a battle.

This is the second time you've made this specific argument... "why hasn't anyone exploited this weakness before?" I don't think you're being charitable here. This is the kind of nitpicking that only turbonerds do to pretend their opinions are based in objective fact.

Armsmaster is part of a team, he doesn't have to explicitly cover all of his weaknesses. He specializes in a close-range combat so gasses aren't a huge concern for him, and if something goes really wrong he can just get patched up by a healer.

>>92353005
What exactly makes her a villain? I haven't read it yet, but feel free to use spoilers.

>>92370524
she does various crimes including robbing a bank and coercion under the threat of violence

>>92370425
But every member of the group isn't a technology guy.

And for how that would not be a sound plan you have it in what happened in the story. The second he wasn't paying attention he got swarmed by hornets because he didn't have it on hand.

There's hubris and just sort of mindboggiling you're being dumb now.
>>92370443
>Nitpicking.
How is asking how this incredibly obvious flaw wasn't exploited until a soft sixteen year old did it nitpicking?

Because again she didn't do anything clever. She saw he didn't have the bug zapper ready and swarmed him with bugs. The power version of saying fuck it and just swinging away with both hands.

>>92370524
She joins a villain team initially as a spy but she realizes the heroes are actually all cunts and she doesn't want to betray her team. So instead she tries to use bad deeds to meet good ends.

>>92370549
>How is asking how this incredibly obvious flaw wasn't exploited until a soft sixteen year old did it nitpicking?
because you're ignoring the greater context of the setting
the question you should be asking isn't "Why isn't Armsmaster protecting himself from gasses?", it's "Why isn't EVERYBODY protecting themselves from gasses?"

to borrow one of your favorite phrases, you don't have to be a tactical genius to realize a threat like that

>>92370549
>But every member of the group isn't a technology guy.
Even technology guys didn't walk around in power armor with full face masks.

And again it was established in his first appearance that his shtick was all about his Halbard and that's how most tech guys operated.

>>92370594
So basically everyone other than the main character is a retard.

And again if you really want to make this a question of why isn't everyone protecting themselves from gasses?

Not everyone is a technology hero.


You have an individual who has no physical superpowers simply mental and in the designing of his armor it never occurs to him that there might be situations where being safe from the environment he's in might be a thing? Especially considering that every couple of months monstrous beings tear up the world?

If a flying brick doesn't plan for that eventuality okay sure. But he's flesh and blood and while his halberd might be his symbol his suit of armor isn't just armor its still a fucking tool he uses in various ways.

And again it doesn't take a tactical genius to think maybe this girl who controls bugs might swarm me with bugs.

>>92370613
>>92370594
This counter argument just sort of proves the point that Worm suffered from the fact that she was the only who really had the effect of powers extrapolated as far as they can go.

Being gasses is probably not something that happens often. But if Im an aspiring super hero with tech getting lit on fire does occur to me as a possibility. Or being drowned or going to space.

Everyone other than Taylor just stagnated at a base point in terms of their powers and what they did with them.

>>92370650
>You have an individual who has no physical superpowers simply mental and in the designing of his armor it never occurs to him that there might be situations where being safe from the environment he's in might be a thing? Especially considering that every couple of months monstrous beings tear up the world?
Well there's the fact that his niche was never about building armor in the first place.

>>92370650
you made like three mutually exclusive arguments there so I'm not sure which one you want me to respond to but

1. heroes and villains in the worm universe are explicitly ridiculous, like this is acknowledged in the story, they are messed-up people who run around in costumes and in most cases it's form over function because they're all play-acting or trying to sell action figures

2. you don't have to be a technology hero to think about wearing a gas mask. Protectorate heroes get their costumes custom-made and there's tons of oversight. It's more believable that one brilliant inventor would overlook a potential weak point than a bureaucratic organization that has to field calls from angry parents about dangers posed to their children.

3. Armsmaster was fixated on his halberd, it's the tech he invested the most time in and the thing that was easiest to modify. He probably COULD have put together new armor but that would have taken time, and it would have been easier just to swap out some components of his staff. One fight against a threat that was probably covered by his weapon didn't really warrant putting together a whole new suit of armor. I really don't think you understand this character or the tinkerers in general.

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I only heard about this story recently. On one side it has intrigued my interests highly since people say the psychological aspect of it is good. But on the other side I'm kinda sick of dark cape stories after reading too many already.

Is Worm still worth a glance?

>>92370721
well it is definitely dark
but is there such a thing as a psychological story that isn't also dark

>>92370702
>This counter argument just sort of proves the point that Worm suffered from the fact that she was the only who really had the effect of powers extrapolated as far as they can go.
That's hardly fair to say because she's the only one who we got to see in every single fight she's ever been in. Plus Dragon and Armsmaster plainly improved. Regent showed off his abilities to their full extent a few times and Tattletale became a master ruseman. also >>92369915

>>92370716
The issue is that the weak point is so painfully obvious that it doesn't make sense that it would still be a thing that Taylor would somehow be the first to exploit.

Yes he's fixated in his halberd but the fact that it never occured to him as someone who regularly goes up against the worst of a superpowered humanity to not have a manner to counter that is ridiculous.

The fact that just covering that one little issue means having to build an entire new suit is dumb.

>>92370786
>still be a thing that Taylor would somehow be the first to exploit.
It wasn't. He literally teleported it back into his hands.

>>92370702
I understand wanting to see other powers used in clever ways but I don't think the story suffered for it. It was pretty clear that the vast majority of the parahumans in Worm were just cool one-off ideas for the universe's aesthetic, or else they were a monster-of-the-week for the protagonists to overcome.

Taylor was the main character, so she got to use her powers to macguyver her way out of improbable situations with her specific powerset, and that was the appeal. I think this is a genre issue more than anything.

>>92370796
Im not talking about him losing his halberd.

Im talking him getting swarmed by insects and them going into his mouth.

>>92370786
>>92370809
>Yes he's fixated in his halberd but the fact that it never occured to him as someone who regularly goes up against the worst of a superpowered humanity to not have a manner to counter that is ridiculous.
It did occur to him. He thought he could use his halberd.

>The fact that just covering that one little issue means having to build an entire new suit is dumb.
It didn't. He thought he could rely on his halberd.

Armsmaster made a mistake, but he's not stupid. It wasn't even a very big mistake. You're being unreasonable.

>Nice, a worm thread!
>Derailed by antihomos and an anon that self inserts into Armsmaster who's mad he jobbed

>>92370809
Because he's not a gas mask kind of guy. He's a halberd guy. You don't see gun guys making supercars or bomb ladies making sherbet machines. I think its even said that nearly all tinkers are single minded to retardation.

>>92370758
That post you're linking to says the reason that everyone didn't go as far with their powers as Taylor did was because they weren't the combat genius she was.

The thing is I'm not a tactical genius but it occurs to me almost immediately that someone might try to drown my ass. Or burn me alive. Because those would be what I'd do if I saw flesh and no breathing apparatus.

It might just be because I grew up watching DBZ but the mental image that immiedtly sprung to mind was when somebody got completely consumed by an energy beam or a blast.

Which was the issue with the story. That Taylor had these moments of just thinking hard and drawing her power out to it's maximum effect and nobody else really did.

Even the names you brought up. Regent didn't use his powers in any particularly clever way. He just used it the way it would occur to a lot of guys to use mind control.

And as for Tattletale. She was just something that fucking ruined the story and highlights the way the writing was, I'm going to plant solutions beforehand that look clever but are kind of contrived.

Which characters should have had more screen time?
I think Regent should have had a little more development before he got killed off and Golem shouldn't have been dropped from the cast after s9000

>>92370861
A gun guy making a super car is not equivalent to somebody thinking fuck maybe I should be able to breath if I ever end up in space or in the water.

>>92370890
tattletale because she is my waifu

>>92370854
You do realize that the argument being made is that he jobbed and that is what happens a lot in the story.

Its not that he shouldn't have jobbed but that he jobbed.

>>92370908
>maybe I should be able to breath if I ever end up in space or in the water
How do you fix that problem though?
Wear an oxygen tank everywhere you go and broadcast your weakness to the world?

>>92370940
Have a way to seal off the suit and instead of wearing a big ass oxygen tank have a emergency supply of some sort in it.

>>92370940
>Wear an oxygen tank everywhere you go and broadcast your weakness to the world?
Considering the tech levels in worm and how they bordered on being magic?

You could probably do something that isn't as obvious as wearing an oxygen tank.

>>92370886
>That Taylor had these moments of just thinking hard and drawing her power out to it's maximum effect and nobody else really did.
So what? Her tenacity the character trait that made her stand out. Why is it bad that Hal Jordan has exceptional feats of will power.

>>92370961
that's still a circumstantial solution at best, there aren't many situations that would cover where Alexandria couldn't just go somewhere else where she can breathe, plus she'd have to cover up her face which is bad for her public image

>>92370974
yeah a lot of the tech is magic but the in-universe reason they don't share tech is because you need a dedicated tinkerer to maintain it, otherwise everyone would be wielding mass-produced halberds

once again y'all are weirdly ignoring the setting so you can nitpick specific scenarios

>>92370989
>So what?
Because I'm in no way a tactical genius and that scenario occurred to me.

>>92371006
>that's still a circumstantial solution at best, there aren't many situations that would cover where Alexandria couldn't just go somewhere else where she can breathe, plus she'd have to cover up her face which is bad for her public image
What are you talking about?

Why are you bringing up Alexandria in a conversation about Armsmaster?

>>92371006
>Nitpick specific scenarios.
As in one that explicitly happened?

>>92371047
the conversation started with Alexandria, I assumed that's who they were talking about because if Armsmaster ends up in outer space he's pretty fucked regardless of whether or not he can breathe

>>92371050
yes
I am aware that alexandria died
what's your point

>>92370989
Because Taylor's moments of drawing out her power were not exceptional.

They were sort of obvious. Which is the issue.

Even if Taylor is this preternaturally gifted teen, it doesn't make a lot of sense that you wouldn't see at least some level of equivalent power honing in a world where combat with supers and a walking natural disaster is common.

>>92371073
>the conversation started with Alexandria,
No it didn't.

>>92371090
what do you have to gain by pursuing this
how does this benefit you
were you seriously concerned about how armsmaster would handle himself if he was suddenly transported to outer space

>>92371104
Because this is 4chan where conversations are had to pass the time and Worm had a big issue of being filled to the brim with contrived as fuck plans that only worked because everyone but the protagonist didn't think about stuff.

>>92371078
It's easy to look back on a battle after it's over and say, "that was so stupid, he would have won if he just did X"
hindsight is 20/20
but Taylor has an especially unique power, even among Master-type parahumans... none of them can handle swarms on the same level as her
it's not a threat that would be thoroughly analyzed in the Art of Parahuman Combat, and you can't protect against every threat all the time
if you want to make this argument you should limit your examples to situations where the hero knew what they were facing in advance, like in the case of Skitter vs Armsmaster

>>92371078
She had that fight-winning combination of having the thinker ability to fight and keep track of everything on the battlefield at the same time, not being retarded so she could figure out good plans from that information, and her master ability to put those plans into action.

Almost all capes have the second one, and the third and first one aren't excactly uncommon, but the combination is rare.

>>92371129
that's a nonsequitur
what does that have to do with your weird insistence that Armsmaster must address the hypothetical threat of suddenly being transported to outer space

>>92352783
someone spamming their shit webcomic

>>92371078
>Because Taylor's moments of drawing out her power were not exceptional.
>They were sort of obvious.
I thought putting poison blood in Lung's eye was pretty good.

>>92371148
>webcomic
Just leave.

It's basically a shonen manga when it comes to fights (and edginess). Stop worrying so much guys.

>>92371136
>It's easy to look back on a battle after it's over and say, "that was so stupid, he would have won if he just did X"
Again I'm not a tactical genius, but it immieditly springs to my mind that she's going to shove insects down my throat.

That's not Sun Tzu levels of forethought and threat analysing. If I hear someone has the ability to control large ass swarm of bugs I'm thinking cockroaches in my ears.

>>92371194
He had his pole and assumed that's all he'd need.

>>92371166
>I thought putting poison blood in Lung's eye was pretty good.
It was clever for finding a bug that could do that, but you basically boil that plan down to pocket sand.

It's a very obvious idea.

>>92371217
>Hurr durr pocket sand!
Oh come the fuck on.

in the case of Alexandria, I only vaguely remember the scene now, but wasn't she practically taunting Taylor with hints that she needed to breathe? Does anyone remember what the purpose of that was?

>>92371232
Oh come the fuck on what?

She had her bugs squirt a poison in his eye that didn't defeat him it blinded him. Hence it being compared to pocket sand because it was pretty much what it was

She fucking surprised him by squirting a chemical in his eye. That's not clever thinking. It's one of the first ideas people have had when fighting another person. If you can't beat him blind. Hell it's why Boxers aren't allowed to have movable thumbs anymore.

And that plan wasn't a unique one. The most unique bit about it was the poison having to be a part of it due to his adapative powers.

A lot of her battle plans can be summed up as, swarm their holes with bugs.

>>92371243
She was making the whole play believable while also subtlety hinting that it doesn't work. Also she was an arrogant asshole.

>>92371288
>She had her bugs squirt a poison in his eye that didn't defeat him it blinded him.
It did defeat him. Second fight. She used the blood of a guy with super toxicity.

>>92371288
pocket sand isn't really pocket sand unless you're doing it as a distraction
just because an attack is aimed at the eyes doesn't mean you can call it pocket sand

>>92371333
Also pocket sand is a completely legit move.

>>92371324
And that's exactly the kind of shit that she could do that few other capes could. Having the idea to use one guys toxic blood to blind Lung? Anyone could have done that.
Having that idea while having to fight Lung at the same time, then getting the blood and delivering it to Lung's eyes? Much more difficult without her powers.

honestly the fights were the least good part of Worm but of course you guys gotta fixate on those because what is /co/ without powerlevel wank

>>92371176
Only the final battle felt like a shonen bullshit fight, I agree on the edgyness though.

>>92371375
And that's the issue. That she uses her powers in that way when nobody else really does.

Because the way its made to sound she's the only one capable of thinking at that way but we have numerous examples even in the real world is that there's an aggregate number of people capable of such fast thinking.

Admittedly its not a super powered brawl but motar strikes and fist fights equally stress the brain

>>92371243
bad writing

>>92371436
you sound like the kind of guy who would complain that sherlock holmes is the only person solving the mysteries

>>92371450
No because Sherlock Holmes was doing by far far more clever shit.

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>>92371416
I have to agree, all the best parts like the scene with Dragon, Defiant and Taylor in Arcadia don't involve any fighting.

And even the one fight scene I could say I loved only happened because of dumb circumstances, when Coil cornered Skitter in the abondened building and instead of shooting her twice (after the first shot only hurt her but was deflected by her armor) decided to retreat and ambush her outside.

But god was the resulting fight great, Skitter pulled every trick she had, bug decoys, speaking through the insects to fuck with the soldiers, setting up tripwires, using silk to pull the pins of their grenades or binding a grenade to their hand before they can throw it.
If anything I want to see Worm getting a visual adaptation just to witness this fight.

Also fuck what happened to Grue, he deserved a happy ending or at least a not shitty death. It happened fucking off screen for gods sake and we haven't even found out until the very end. Regent at least left behind a legacy with Imp and the Heartbreakers

>>92371436
>That she uses her powers in that way when nobody else really does.
Because they can't. Most other thinkers don't have a master power that lets freely move, hinder, conceal things, lets them communicate freely with everyone. They think of the plans, but can't execute them easily.
Most other masters don't have a thinker power that lets them multitask and observe the entire battlefield freely. They don't have the information to form the plans, and need to focus on staying alive.

Almost nobody else used their power that way because almost nobody else has powers that can be used that way.

>>92371537
But even if they can't be used in that way why aren't they being used in ways that are extrapolated from what they are.

Which is the issue. That the protagonist is the only one using her powers in insane ways when even amid their limitations there should be more possibilities for the others.

>>92371533
not really
sherlock holmes just has a really good sense of intuition, his mysteries aren't really the "logic puzzle" type

>>92371535
>using silk to pull the pins of their grenades or binding a grenade to their hand before they can throw it.
From what? Spiders? Silkworms? How the fuck would you have enough time to do that?

>>92371554
because the other characters aren't the protagonists of ten novels worth of story

worm was written with the philosophy that it was better to introduce a new character with completely different powers than to try to reuse an existing character

the entire universe is an excuse to throw out a bunch of cool ideas for powers and make Taylor deal with them using bugs

>>92371581
Super spiders.

>>92371554
>used in ways that are extrapolated from what they are.
What do you mean by this?

>>92371581
iirc she had flying insects carrying pre-made threads of silk
since she has infinite multitasking ability she can make them do very fine work very rapidly

>>92371581
It's been a long time since I read it but I think she carries ropes of spider silk she prepares in her free time as part of her equipment and hands it to her swarm whose flying insects transported it into position.

>>92362643
I don't think anyone hates her, she was just a monster out of control at worst. People just wanted her gone.

actually, Golem's powers were explored pretty deeply
come on guys don't you remember Golem

>>92371694
I remember Golem

>>92363351
Legend is WOG confirmed to not know Cauldron had done anything wrong. He's a well intentioned idiot, Superman without the supersenses.

(god I hope this didn't send twice, fucking 4chan)

>>92361228
Wasn't it confirmed that it was her sisters power brainwashing during childhood and throughout her life? Because the "god" aura power isn't great to be around.

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>>92371766
It was implied but the author never said just how much Vicky was responsible.

Victoria interacts with many people on daily basis not just her sister, yet her sister seems like the only one that fell in love with her to an obsessive degree.
Chances are that the emotion manipulation aura was more or less just a nudge in the direction of obsessive love and the rest was just because Vicky was the only person that ever was nice to Amy.

I liked Worm overall but I don't think I'll ever give it a second read through until we get the edited and rewritting version that cuts down the overall word count and at least tries to unfuck the progressively worse getting pacing.

How are Wildbows other stories compared to Worm?

>>92371822
she was more of a blob of flesh than this

>>92371963
Pact is garbage according to Wildbow, he wrote it while depressed and dealing with stress.

Twig is said to be better written but it lacks the page-turning hook Worm has. Feels very episodic.

I'm sad to say they don't really stand up to Worm.

>>92371963
Pact suffers from being much more bleak than Worm. So is Twig, but somehow it works much better.

>>92371963

I enjoyed Pact for what it was, but its pacing really lacks compared to Worm and Twig. The characters weren't as engaging, bar a couple exceptions.

I've greatly enjoyed Twig though, comparable quality to Worm, great characters and world.

>>92372014
>much more bleak than Worm
Jesus, what is it with that guy that everything he writes is "suffering"-the web serial?

It would suck if it's true that Wildbow is slowly dying from some genetic disease like someone else in the thread had mentioned but looking at the shit he writes (at least on the worldbuilding level) I'm not suprised, especially with Twig focusing on biological horror and being about people that were created with an artificial expiration date that is way shorter than the average lifespan of a human.

These threads are always good to ask questions about using powers properly.

What are some of the more clever uses of powers like super strength, super speed, etc. that go beyond the 'an average guy can think to do that? Bare in mind that physics still apply (but the powers work anyway because of reasons).

I'm planning to run a cape game but I wanna get my head around more complex use of powers to give my NPCs and villains some cool uses for generic powers.

>>92372090
I wouldn't say everything he writes is suffering. Taylor was doing pretty well after the bullying stopped being relevant, and Sy is more slowly losing his mind than suffering. Blake though, for someone who was barely even real to begin with, he went through a lot of punishment.

>>92372231
did you read worm? every munchkin use of every popular power is already explained

>>92363345
It's more the Hulk's weight in bees controlled by someone with half a brain.

The more I fiind out about this series, the less I want to read it.

I like my grimdark mixed with a dash of hope and idealism (batman) or so amped up that it comes out the other end and becomes funny (wh40k).

Pure grimdark just gives me tummyache.

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>>92352199
>people read this poorly-written, 1.5 million word capeshit fiction
You could've read five to ten good books in the same amount of time.

>>92372483
Well taylor wants to be a hero. It's the circumstances surrounding her and her power that forces
>>92372513
Cartoons need to be erased from the board

>>92352199
is this /co/ or /lit/ ?
It's all-text, and three times longer than Lord Of The Rings.

>>92372483
This isn't grimdark at all, it's batman without the ham.

>>92372548
To the thirteen year old TVtropers who frequent this board and unironically enjoy Worm, it's the closest to grim or dark that they've ever been.

>>92372584
Dude, the only reason you'd write that post is if you were a butthurt TVtroper yourself, who's tired of being too ADD to understand why it comes up so much.

>>92372545
Lit is only for a set of 30 obscure or classic novels chosen by the five posters on the board. Anything else is pleb tier.
CO is for all capeshit. Cartoon fags should fuck off to trash with their generals

>>92372231
I run a cape game based (very partially) off of Worm's setting. We have trigger events, there is a group called the Protectorate, but there are no familiar faces, and the long plot is completely different. Honestly you'll get the best results not from the bog-standard powers, but from making powers fucking weird.

If any of you fuckers in my game read this, consider this a bonus prize. The current party is:

-(PC) A Goth closet dyke with anger issues whose superpower is the ability to 'shroud' herself in a coat of writhing black tentacles. They trend toward having monomolecular edges and don't listen to what she says. Her power gets more stable and controllable around:

-(NPC) A blue-skinned girl who got the standard set of ice powers. She triggered (and by extension made the first PC trigger) when she was coerced into confessing her love to her in the middle of the school cafeteria, and the PC screamed at her, threw her lunch at her, tore up the love letter, and basically ruined her life in exchange. They got better.

-(PC) A girl whose water-based powers allow her to 'copy' the forms of people she sees and shapeshift into them. She can also copy animals and turn into a water form that is held together telekinetically. What she can turn into depends on how much water is currently in her body (more = larger forms), and she dehydrates quickly if she shifts multiple times. She can't copy most powers, but she can copy ones based purely on anatomy. Her arc is that, though she hasn't realized it yet, every time she shifts she loses a little bit more of her personality and memories. She is becoming "watered down" by being so many different people.

-(PC) A girl whose power both lets her be a human lie detector, and allows her to pull lies from people's reflections, turning them into minions that increase in strength (and decrease in controllability) as the lie becomes more important/fiercely-protected. Recently the lies have started speaking to her in whispers.

>>92361716
I mean you could kill someone and have the crabs break up their body parts and belongings, before having them hide what's left at the bottom of the ocean. Literally the best way to get away with murder.

>>92372584
Why can't you enjoy dark capeshit anon? If it's not to your taste ignore that kind of thread and go make a Marvel one

>>92372664
Crabs don't have that arm strength, man.

>>92372670
It's not dark and capeshit sucks.

>>92372664
Or you can escape having to use Butterflies to be a hero and become Crustacean King
>>92372647
You should check out Weaverdice anon
>>92372696
why are you on this board then?

>>92372647
This sounds terrible.

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>>92372718
Because I like cartoons and comics that aren't superhero trash.

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>>92372760
> why is there so much fast food in this food court?
If you're as smart as you think you are, you should already know where you are, what to expect here, and how much effect trying to shame people will have.

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>>92372647
(2/2)
Rather than run a villains game like what most of Worm is, I opted for the opposite angle of having the party be on the LA Protectorate. The game's tone has remained consistently gray, with me trying to avoid out-and-out cackling villainy or shining beacons of justice and virtue. The Protectorate and government have screwed the players or lied to them several times, as an example, and I've tried to have all the villains have their own reasons for doing things. Even the gangs.

I made the powers by having the players each pick three "themes", then I came up with 3 complete powers for the combined set (which is fucking harder than it sounds jesus christ people come up with stupid combos). The players got to pick the power from the three they liked, or if I fucked up they could tell me and we'd work something out because I'm not a complete asshole.

>>92372718
We did, and it's shit. Weaverdice is shit, Paralite is shit, ESPECIALLY new Weaverdice is shit. We ended up taking an older version of Paralite, stripping out the 70% of the system that was garbage, and homebrewing our own system to fill in the cracks. Maybe there's a game that these systems work for, but it wasn't the game any of my players wanted to play.

>>92372749
Here's your (You).

>>92372760
Steven Universe XD XD XD
return to the trash with your generals cartoon poster

>>92372868
Dumb Wormposter. Read a real book instead of getting defensive.

>>92372842
I'm sorry dude, it sounds terrible. It sounds like a Monsterhearts party gone wrong.

>>92372842
>Entire group is rping as girls
hmmm
That aside that sounds cool. If you don't have it set you should consider Sleeper or the Blasphemies as your final boss. Sleeper has enough known lore to know he took over parts of Russia and a alternate world in the end but you can play with powers or nerf them since they aren't stated

>>92372760
Me too Buddy, but I also like superhero trash.

>>92372942
isn't there a 4-colour superhero game using that system? It's called "Capes" or "Masks" or something?

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>>92372968
>Entire group is rping as girls
I've had to lampshade a couple times that all of my players decided independently to play girls. I figured we'd end up with at least ONE guy, but no. They didn't conspire to play as girls either, aside from making jokes about it.

I'll take a look at Sleeper and the Blasphemies. If nothing else it might give me some cool ideas.

>>92372942
Things breaking is the central theme of the campaign. If it sounds terrible to you, there's not really much I can say. On some levels it is terrible, but there's a fun in trying to make terrible things good as well.

>>92352639
What's Connie doing there?
Just kidding, her victory against the time fatso was pretty epic, I think she OHKO him, hell, she probably was single handedly keeping the endbringers at bay in Africa.

Did wildbow ever said anything about the parahumans situation in Africa like he did for Russia?

I'm working on a capeshit novel heavily inspired by Worm... Showed the first six chapters to people I know and they said they loved it and want to see more. Now I have 40,000 words done.

We're all gonna make it, bros.

>>92373284
show me, people you know will not be fair on you

Thread reminder that Victoria did absolutely nothing wrong.

>>92373272
iirc it was mostly taken over by parahuman warlords like BB was but with Moord Nag being the strongest and holding the most land. Also, there was an S class threat(same level as Endbringers and S9) just running through it callled ashbeast

>>92373272
He said that Africa can't be summarized since it's a pretty diverse place.
There are civilized places there where society is working out all right with the usual hero and villain dynamic but also places that are completely fucked because the old warlords got replaced by parahuman warlords.

>>92373378

Quite true, but people on 4chan are unduly harsh about everything.

>>92353078
These two, armboy and his waifu turned real, hell they even got their own epilogue
I was shipping clock/Taylor or theo/Taylor, fuck Grue
>>92354761
Wildbow himself stated he didn't wanted to focus too much on the Lesbian sex on those two to avoid pandering, and foil overall was pretty important, and parian was just badass

>>92373402
>Makes everyone obey, love and fear her
>Beat the shit out of henchmen and mooks, breaking their bones
>Would have probably put TT in a coma

I'm not adverse to reading but this thing is so fucking enormous in its length that I can't conceive actually finding time to go through it.

>>92373424
Combine the two reactions; the truth will be revealed.

>>92373445
It took me about 4 days in the evening after work and then a weekend.

>>92373432
Worst thing about after S9000 was what WB did with Theo
>>92373445
It's a slog at parts but I think it's worth it for the world building(though some wished there had been more) and diverse power sets. Also, the perspective is pretty different to normal capeshit

>>92373445
Worm is written to be speedreadable and skimmable, it's worth starting even if you give up.

>>92373445
Just read the first few arcs to figure out if you even want to read it all, the street level parts are only a fraction in length if compared to the entire story and is usually considered the best part anyway.
The rest of the story is for if you liked the worldbuilding, there are some high points and great moments later on but overall the quality of the story becomes more inconsistent.
The end is pretty great again IMO.

So just read arc 1 to 9, much more manageble than 1 to 30.

>>92373443

Not how her power works, she only hurts violent criminals and racists, and TT deserved it. As far as Victoria knew, she was complicit in a potentially lethal hostage situation.

>>92358341
What of she finds the perfect boy? Or girl?

>>92373601
>So just read arc 1 to 9
Also just so you can visualize it, Arc 1-9 is what usually gets suggested to be the first book in the series for when it will actually get released in book form.
So it's basically the same as reading the first book in a series