Generation X #1 Lettered Preview

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>>92269972
What the fuck is wrong with the faces? This is terrifying.

>>92270100
>destroyed in2008
Get your sliding timeline together, it hasn't been 9 years.

>>92269972
Ho shit, it's the Mango Killer artist!

Shit art

>>92270352
Nor does renaming the Jean Grey Institute back to Xavier seem cool. Thank god Wolverine is too dead to see this

>>92270331
those artists do ALOT of comic covers
I suspect you don't belong here

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>>92270392
Marlel really showing their commitment to the x-books here.

>>92270100
Hey, it's Broo!

>that art
>that writing
>that team
fuck this book so hard

Not too keen on the art, but something about the colors almost makes it up for me.

>>92269972
>No more youthfulness for Jubilee
You mean physically or in terms of personality? Because she should be eternally 18 thanks to the whole vampire thing.

>>92270031
>Amilcar Pinna
Oh God, I'm getting Young Ultimates flashbacks.

>>92270100
>Destroyed in 2008
That's... not how the sliding timescale works. It would have been destroyed around 2013-2014 in the current timeline.

>>92271464
Hey.. It's been destroyed enough that it's probably still true.

>>92271273
This. I can't believe I'm mad about a lobdell book getting tarnished but holy shit this is just spitting on gen x.

>>92271522
Well, 2008 would be sometime in the mid-80s, so yeah, I'm pretty sure the Xavier School was destroyed at least once in that period.

>>92270678
What is this from?

>>92271536
Gen-X is like the best book he's ever written, so there's that.

>>92271577
Young Ultimates. Later on, someone asks him to kill someone else and he goes "I'm all out of mangos."

>>92271578
GenX is the best Marvel book from the 90s

>>92271522
I mean 2008 was the year Messiah Complex ended and the school was destroyed in that story before the move to SF

But it's weird to keep that year considering Bling and Quentin were students before that time, it's been 10 years and they're still in high school

>>92271608
Not even close. Despite all the meme-ing, the 90s had quite a few great Marvel books. It WAS the best X-book of the 90s though.

>>92271628
Only the good ones get to graduate.

>>92271644
Quentin did graduate though
So did Armor and Anole.

And now they're all back to being students

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>>92271607
That book really was something special.

>>92271705
all the women look like inbreeded

>>92271350
The narration has her acting like she's well into adulthood.

>>92271705
Fiffe is a national treasure

>>92270031
THAT IS NOT HOW CHAMBER'S FACE WORKS

There'd be psychic fire spilling out from under that scarf. It isn't a fashion accessory, it's a baffle!

>>92271522
But not renamed until the destruction back in Messiah Complex

>>92272043
I'm glad that book killed the "Copra is good" meme. Turns out anyone can trick people into believing they're good writers if they just plagiarize Ostrander's Suicide Squad.

>>92272271
But COPRA is good.

>>92271869
Having a kid will do that to you.

>>92272324
>Stealing a kid will do that to you.

Fixed.

>>92272266
Well it didn't say it was renamed because of the same blowing up. Man it's easy to write around this shit. X-men history is a series of loops.

>>92272324
no one claimed it

>>92272307
Well-meme'd my friend.
Anyone who believes fruit can silence a gun, much less a fruit with a gigantic seed in the middle, has no business writing that kind of book.

>>92272405
Ah, but what if he just wanted to see if the bullet would push the seed through the guy's skull?

Writing seems dull and a shitty written Jubilee at that, art looks like shit, Jason Aaron characters instead of students anyone wants to see.

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>>92271570
>2008 would be sometime in the mid-80s

>>92270461
>Thank god Wolverine is mostly too dead to care

>>92274153
Marvel's sliding timescale is a 4:1 scale. Throw in the 8 month timeskip from after Secret Wars, and it'd put 2008 at 1983~1987

>>92274710
>it'd put 2008 at 1983~1987
Sliding timescales were a mistake.

>>92269972
is Jubs still a vampire?

>>92274732
Yep. She has a magic amulet that lets her be out in the sun though. Don't know if she can cross running water, enter houses without being invited, and/or be around garlic without breaking out into hives.

>>92273288
*morrison characters instead of students anyone wants to see

>>92270031
what the F U C K is this art

>>92270031
>>92270060
>>92270100
what the fuck is wrong with everyone's face?

Who the fuck drew this shit and how can we stop them?

>>92274751
She flew across the ocean with the baby she kidnapped from Europe

She can cross running water

What the fuck happened to Morrison's OC Self Insert? He barely resembles himself anymore

This is some of the ugliest art I've seen.

>>92269972
If Jubilee's supposed to be sucking on a popsickle, this moron puffed the wrong cheek.

>>92277664
I think the cover art is decent, but that bothered me, too. Maybe it's a candy-cane?

Shame about the interior art. I don't really expect better from Marvel, though.
>>92269972
>No more youthfulness for Jubilee.
What do you mean, OP?

>>92271636
Second best after X-Men 2099, just slightly above X-Force which was more consistent.

If my PC wasn't being a piece of shit and I didn't have other stuff going on I'd storytime Gen X again like I did a few years back. Hell maybe I'll start this weekend even without shelling out shekels for a Pass. We'll see.

Wait, Why is Jono back to having a destroyed face of psionic mind fire and how is Jubilee standing in direct sunlight?

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>>92274710
Marvel's siding timescale is 'everything significant happened not too long ago, in chronological order' there's no hard maths to it

>>92270100
>Destroyed in 2008
don't say that!

>>92270060
Jono sounds like Jono, not bad so far.

>>92270331
>>92271784
there's a law that says all books geared to "new readers" must be as unappealing to "old readers" as possible.

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>>92278780
>Second best after X-Men 2099

>>92278809
Jono got his mutant powers back when Legion had a breakdown and caused Age of X

Jubilee has a magical medallion that let's vampires walk in sunlight.
In the past she's drank Wolverine and X-23's blood since that also gives vampires daywalker abilities

>>92270031
>>92270060
>>92270100
>that art
W H A T T H E F U C K

>>92278809
I am also curious.

I also wouldn't put it past them to just be like 'whatever, this is how they are now, we'll explain how it happened someday'.

>>92279128
not him but X-Men 2099 is really good, X-fags hate it because they wanted the children of the X-Men in the future but it's a more than solid team book.

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>>92279267
I grew up on the X-Men cartoon but it was actually X-Men 2099 that got me hooked on comics. Absolutely loved Blood Hawk, Halloween Jack, La Lunatica, and Skullfire.

That series did 90's edge well and I loved the art until Ron Lim left and it got generic looking. It's also pretty rare to see an environmentalist hero/terrorist or an actual dominatrix muscle girl hero/villain. Those two really stood out to me, I've not encountered many like them since.

>>92279438
If I wrote at Marvel, I would totally start using the Sliding Timescale to bring in some of 2099 characters into current continuity, Brimstone Love and La Lunatica were already ageless in 2099, no reason there couldn't be an analog in 2017.

>>92270060
>giving the kid a Steven Universe jacket
I knew Jubilee was a bad "mother," but geez!

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>>92275251
Don't ask me, ask the artist
https://twitter.com/amilcarpinna

When will they dump the damn kid she stole? Who in their right mind thought making a character choose to be a single mother would make her responsible? It's the exact opposite. You're giving the a shitty life just because you think you deserve a kid. They deserve two parents. And it doesn't help that Jubilee is a bloodsucking monster now and still hangs around people whose house is routinely blown up and are attacked by genocidal maniacs. If she really cared about the baby, she'd put him up for adoption.

>>92270031
Panel 3 looks like it could be from Attack on Titan.

>>92270100
>relocated to Central Park
So much for Cyke's idea of moving where innocent civilians wouldn't get dragged into anti-mutant attacks.

Since I see a lot of people where talking about 90's X-men, does anyone have a download for a 90's X-men collection?
I just recently started reading X-Men from the beginning, and I'm digging it a lot. I'm on issue #165 now.
I only have stuff from 1966-1987 though, and I was excited mostly about the 90's comics, since it was the cartoon that got me interested in reading it.

>>92269994
one horned guy is morph?

>>92280552
he's copying Nature Girl's appearance, he doesn't have full control of his shapeshifting ability, and he has subconscious ability to shift his appearance to someone recognizable to whose ever looking at him. He's only been able to control the power and turn to a specific person with Emma Frost psychically "Steering the Wheel"

Morph is kinda like an Asari in Mass Effect, if you wanted to see a hot asian chick Morph's head would appear to you as a hot asian chick.

Isn't Jubilee a vampire

>>92280764
Not quite. He doesn't exactly turn into someone recognizable.

He turns into the people around him. Or at least something similar to them.

So unless you were a hot Asian chick, that's not what he'd turn into

The art is terrible. Where did all the talent go?

Marvel is the Mass Effect: Andromeda of Comics.

>>92270678
dafuq?

>>92280814
Marvel isn't interested in anyone applying for a job in the industry. The only way to get hired is for them to notice and want you somehow, or for a friend who is already working at Marvel to help you. So of course they are chasing after what few people in the industry are shit enough to work for Marvel in a field of artists who've already made it in the industry to some degree, and occasionally hiring the talent-less friends of insiders.

>>92277982
>What do you mean, OP?
That fucking art; also see >>92271869

>>92280814
They want the indie/webcomics crowd, so they're skewing away from the norm.

Unfortunately, that also means they skew away from anyone with real talent and skill.

>>92270060
>>92270100
They need to kill this fucking baby already, it was a bad idea when Wood had her steal it from a hospital and it's brought nothing to the table since.

>>92269972
ANOTHER #1?
Also
>not a single straight white male
What did they mean by this?

>>92283335
That would just make Jubilee morose. The kid either needs to get put up for adoption or wiped entirely from existence so not even memory of it remains.

>>92269994

>Kid Omega
I hate this character.

>Bling!
I hate this character more.

>>92283384
And who is Kid Omega?

>>92270678
I remember /k/ having a hoot when this happened

>>92270031
>things will get ugly
No kidding. Fucking dropped.

>>92283309
After years of failing you'd think they'd try a better approach oh well. I hope disney starts cracking the fucking whip.

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>>92280814
> where did all the talent go?

To other books.Right now X-Books have the lowest art quality out of Marvel, but the other books still have standby artists like Del Mundo, Acuna, Noto, etc. Shalvey's still doing covers, and Larraz's debut on Uncanny Avengers was solid.

>>92278780
>Second best after X-Men 2099
... are you serious? X-men 2099 is the second worst 2099 book.

>>92284920
Uncanny Avengers is also one of the best x-books in years.

>>92284982
It was.
Duggan's off the book now, and replaced by Zub.

>>92284982
It was more of a Rogue book than an X-Book though. Even though the book had plenty of X-material it still came off as having more of an Avengers slant. I don't think the Terrigen serum bit had any payoff, and Shaw/Toad vanished after the Hand issues.

"Best X-Book in years" is also pretty debatable considering how crowded the field has been over the past decade.

>>92269972
for fucks sake, why did marvel think this art was ok.?

>>92270031
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>>92270100
>/co/ will hate this book because they won't be able to fap to their waifu

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>>92271705
Was this written by Bendis?

>>92284920
The Jean book has some beautiful art. I don't really care about jean but damn.

>>92270031
fuck me. This was the one X book I had hopes for. Dropped on page one. I really shouldn't have hoped for one good X book, even one and I would have been happy. but 0/6 .... it hurts to be an X-fag

>>92285832
I still have hopes for Astonishing.

>>92284169
Quentin Quire's shitty code name.

>>92285933
>Trusting Soule after Wolverines
It's going to be garbage

>>92285933
After IvX? Soule can sometimes be good but ug..

>>92285933
Fuck off and your peanut man, you asshole

>>92272405
Honestly, I just think he was taking the piss. Fiffe never struck me as the kind of guy who wanted to work on the Big Two.

>>92279042
This explanation kind of gives me a hard on.
I dunno, it's just such a perfect meta explanation.

>>92270031
This is the worst Monkey's Paw I've ever seen. Sure, I've been wanting Jubilee back, but this art just makes me sick. And the fucking vampire fangs too? It's as if Marvel sat around thinking

"Okay, we need an artist who will make Jubilee as hideous as possible to turn away waifu fappers, and writing so bad to seal the deal entirely for making her bland and unreadable"

I never asked for this

>>92285933
Not with that roster, it looks like an X-Force book hastily rebranded.

>>92286425
Now you know how Thunderbolts fans feel.

>>92286595
That's exactly why I'm interested in it.

>>92286637
They made your waifu ugly?

You guys got some problems.

>>92271350
Ish she still a vampire? They seem pretty unconcerned with it being daylight out. Or is she some type of daywalker too?

The art's stylistic but not quite good enough to be stylistic, and definitely doesn't work with the colors/inking. Like I bet >>92270031 was much better when sketched, Jubilee's face panel 3 definitely looks like something that's gotten way worse in the process (reminds me of that one Batman face).

I don't mind the face at all here >>92270100 as a comparison. That's just a top down angle. But the grass there, I think you can see the same kinda issue as your have with the first face.

I still think this is the most interesting of the new X-books, so 3 issue rule at least. The art's not unreadable for me but I do think the choices of shot are kinda strange.

Very surprised nobody's made a Moon over June ref yet.

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>>92286888
It used to be that she drank Logan's blood to avoid turning into a psychopath like most vampires, then she got some magic amulet to let her go out in dim sunlight or midday if she was heavily covered up. This writer and editor and author just doesn't seem to give a fuck.

>>92279042
That is the best explanation. Unfortunately autists try to hammer everything down to an exact timeline, but it's not possible.

>>92270100
I've been out of the X-loop for a while. Is that a fucking Brood in a suit?

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>>92270060
Line art for ref

>>92290285
Yes. His name is Broo. He's intelligent.

>>92290416
It's not the coloring. It's the unnecessary fish eye lens perspectives. It doesn't serve the story going wildly from one angle to another. It's fine in illustrations, which is what they normally seem to do. It might look cooler in fight scenes?

Like in the third panel why is Jono crammed nearly off the right side of the panel while there's almost half the left panel with nothing to look at but a bench.

>>92290621
I think this page is pretty bad for it too >>92270100

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>>92290416
Getting Aeon Flux vibes from this art. Personally I don't hate it.

>>92279865
Agreed. They could just have her mother Gabby. That would be way cuter than a boring baby, would help free up Laura who can't possibly know how to help Gabby have a normalish life immensely, and would give us Laura and Jubilee buddy adventures which really had both characters at their most lovable. Also having a vampire raise a super soldier kid is a lot less fucked up because the kid can actually defend herself to some extent, and already understands people like Jubilee who have to fear themselves, what with being a clone of a clone of Wolverine.
>>92279931
And can you imagine how pissed off people would be over anything getting built on Central Park? That's just so selfish and fucked up.

>>92287906
It really is frustrating. It's like they think the way to do a fan favorite character well is to remove all obstacles and struggle and just go 'hey look how perfect they are'.

>>92285405
No. Bendis actually wrote the team featured in this book well, believe it or not. Fiffe on the other hand clearly hadn't read a single comic featuring any of them.

>>92279438
X-Men 2099 is great because it's not even really a team book. I mean the "team" breaks up fairly quickly and it just becomes each one doing their own thing before everything eventually manages to work its way back for the finale.

It's basically just a group of outcasts trying to find some level of semblance and safety in a world that's gone to shit and I love the post-apocalyptic feel of the Southwest.

>>92284920
What's Larraz working on next because I hope it's something where he won't be wasted. Also floofy Rogue is probably the best Rogue since the 90s.

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>>92295433
If anyone gave a shit about Jubilee's character, any given appearance by her would be almost completely focused on her struggles as a vampire, like in Jubilee/Wolverine or her appearance in the previous X-23 book.

Why on earth would Jubilee get a kid when she is one bad day or paper cut away from eating the thing?

>>92284920
The blue book looks really good.

>>92295937
>If anyone gave a shit
I'm assuming you mean anyone at Marvel, because I'm sure I'm not the only fan who cares. This shit is the reason I just can't get back into Marvel and part of why I cancelled my online subscription. Not just Jubilee's continuity and characterization being treated so flippantly, it a problem with most characters if not all at this point.

So how do this book fall within the X-Men books?
I'm away from X-men for a while. My last read was around the beggining of post Secret Wars X-Men.

I'm only aware about the Gold and Blue books, but don't know much about them either.

>>92283384
Chamber's not white?

>>92298113
Chamber isn't part of the cast, he's a guest

Quentin is a white straight boy though

>>92298160
So is Eye boy and Morph. That guy's just a retard.

>>92298384
Morph told Emma he was gay

>>92295937
The only reason the vampire thing hasn't been done away with is because Marvel's so obstinate about not repowering de-powered mutants. Secret Wars gave them the perfect chance to pick and choose what ones had their powers again and nothing changed.

Jubilee being a vampire is really fucking stupid, has brought about no good stories (I don't think Wolverine/Jubilee is amazing) and really has been nothing but an albatross around the character's neck because every appearance is just marked by screeching about how "why she x and why she not y" or whatever the fuck. It's awful and ideally should never have happened in the first place (same with her being depowered in general) but it did and should've been done away with a long time ago in favor of repowering her.

>>92299607
The vampire story never should have happened in the first place but she was great with Laura in the X-23 book, and part of why they were so good together was because of the complexity of their relationship to Wolverine and the nature of their respective 'bloodlusts' being different and how they perceived each other as a result. It was actually really good when written well.

Think of it this way... all her teen and adult life Jubilee was this street level hero by choice because even after she learned that her powers could be deadly she didn't have it in her to harm people. This contrast with Wolverine wanting to resort to violence as a solution all the time and needing to learn to control that part of him was why she was so lovable as his side kick. Then she gets this bloodlust forced on her. changed into this monster and for the first time she knows what Wolverine felt like first hand. How is that not compelling?

>>92295353
I'm pretty sure Avengers Mansion was also rebuilt there because nobody understood that it's actually a real building, the Henry Clay Frick House on Fifth, overlooking the park with its own gardens, not actually inside the park.