I miss original Jack's subtlety, visuals, music and the

i like the new series and i honestly agree

it would've been the best way to end the series

overall the move to Adult Swim and the more mature rating has hurt it even though at first i thought it would benefit it. the script writers are focusing more on how to be a mature Jack instead of the enchanting and creative Jack. The opening movie alone with the humanoid dogs and robot roaches is loads better than this.

>>92183433
There is nothing really in new Samurai Jack that was worth moving to Adult Swim. Blood? Nothing special. And... there's nothing besides that really.

>>92182873
I found Symbionic Titan closer to the original Samurai Jack's execution.

>>92186552
Isn't it based on a Samurai Jack episode?

Is the Adult Swim Jack really actually bad or is it just /co/ bitching for the sake of bitching?

I haven't gotten around to watching it yet.

>>92186624
it's got some flaws and glaring changes, but it's nowhere near as bad as /co/ makes it out to be.

>>92182873
>>92183235
>>92183433
>>92184513
I agree with all of this, other than liking this season

>>92186624
Take a guess.
But I agree on the pace being fucked.

>>92186624
The last 4 episodes have a pretty significant dip in quality compared to the first 4.

>>92186624
If it ain't 10/10 its shit
t. /co/

>>92182873
I wish it was Cartoon Network that picked this up. One penis joke from Scaramouche is not worth having a whole episode dedicated to implied sex.

>>92186877
Quite right, mediocrity is shit, because it's so easy to make.

But you want your participation trophy, amirite?

>>92186915
As if that's the only issue with this shit season, or even remotely the biggest one.

And the penis joke was absolutely terrible BTW.

>>92186624
If you want to be spared a complete wreck, watch only the first 3 episodes.

Jack dies in the fall. End of the story.

>>92186624
It doesn't deserve having 8 salty rant threads made about it in one day

This show will be remembered more fondly than the contrarians would have you believe

>>92187015
Of course it will, because there's nothing to compare it to. Modern cartoons are largely dogshit.

If only /co/ watched anime...

>>92184513
They couldn't have had the FLESH AND BLOOD sequence without the new rating

>>92187077
>If only /co/ watched anime
I've tried, but a lot of it is just as terrible.

>>92187108
It could have been a movie.

I'm pretty sure Adventure time and Regular show got away with gory shit.

>>92186624
People are buttblasted over jack getting laid. That's literally it.
>muh stoic samurai
>muh forever alone journey.

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>>92187077
>muh moeshit

>>92182873
The first 3 episodes which are considered 10/10 would not be possible without being on Adult Swim.

In factt he episodes that didn't need it are the worst ones.

>>92187125
That's right, but there are certain anime that are built only in the premise of being as cool as shit. Namely, Gunbuster, Wings of Honneamise, and others.

Everything about these episodes lines up with the old Jack. I just rewatched some to confirm. Stop your bitching.

>>92187108
I'm pretty sure the rating was for the blood being drawn on-screen much more than the discussion.

>>92187077
If anime is as good as you say, why does it depend so much on anime?

Not to mention how 80% of anime is the same generic crap

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>>92182873
After episode 3, season 5 literally devolved into a monkey's paw scenario.

It's been nothing but a downward spiral of disappointment and shit ever since.

At the vast majority of viewers can't deny the fact that those first 3 episodes were absolute GOAT-tier though - too bad Genndy didn't have the talent to keep it that way for the rest of the season.

>>92187234
Meant to put fan service instead of anime, what is wrong with me

>>92187250
Oh, but he had.

It's just that he became so full of himself he decided to try a personal thing instead of figuring an ending that would satisfy people the most.

Our mistake was putting all of our hopes on him. His vision is mediocre. This fucking season will cost him his reputation.

>>92186624
First 3 episodes were truly amazing and lived up to the "savior of western animation" hype.

After that, it really isn't worth watching/finishing.

>>92187077
Most modern anime is also total shit though.

Honestly, animation as a whole is just shit now. Same with movies and gaming.

>>92186624
/co/ liked the first third

>>92187270
Fanservice makes things fun to watch.

The best fanservice we could have had in this season was slaughtering Ashi in the most bloody way possible.

>>92187302
I'm satisfied. Poor contrarians ;^(

>>92187185
Blood or no Jack became a murderer and that was only possible because of Adult Swim.

>>92187302
This, we need to make sure Genndy is a fucking laughing stock in the industry. So he never crosses the audiance to this extent ever again.

>>92187342
Someone should pass the poll again, now that the episode can be rated more objectively. Everyone liked it because another community was mad that their unreasonable shit didn't happen. All in all, this was a big disappointment. I would understand if it had been an April fools joke, but it wasn't.

>>92182873
There's too much dialogue. and its bad dialogue. the voice actings really not good either

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>Show's been getting non stop love since it returned
>Gendy adds one love scene
>"Wow, this shit is garbage, we had it so good bros if only it stayed the same..."

Why do we even bother returning to series if fuckers will always complain when it does come back over menial shit? I could undrerstand the serialization complaints undoing the episodic theme. But everything else has been fine save some pacing issues trying to get everything squared up before the last episode.

Maybe Ashi wasn't that great but she serves the roll fine, And the romance was obvious as fuck when they had the aging montage lead into adulthood and the deer scene.

>>92187343
Again though, I'm not sure about this. Standards have changed since the 2000s.

>>92187250
>monkey's paw
Stop being a faggot. Just because it's not 10/10 doesn't mean it's bad, and absolutely not monkey paw-tier
Monkey paw would be something like Jack being a flaming homo and Aku being a symbol of the patriarchy

>>92187414
Yeah, Jack seems like he is actually more stupid than before, I don't think they paid enough attention to how those characters feel at times.

>>92187413
>I know what people liked and why!
don't be delusional

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>>92187376
>let's ruin this man's career so the cartoons he makes will be good again

>>92187487
Might as well start releasing prisoners from jail - after all, they can't start doing too many good deeds in there, right?

>>92187487
>Genndy
>good
Sony was right to shit can his Popeye project, no doubt he would've shit the bed halfway through

>>92187453
For fucks sake, people were complaining since Episode 4, its nothing new. Its not about that one shitty scene, the whole experience seems just... dull.

>>92187481
The only praise this episode gets, literally is "salt".

>>92187376
I give your opinion a 0/10. A fucking disappointment. Congrats /co/! You're officially retarded.

>>92187302
>This fucking season will cost him his reputation.

Didn't Hotel Transylvania already hurt his reputation somewhat?

Though I agree that this'll further run it into the ground.

>>92186624
The people complaining are Rick and Morty fans or from Tumblr.

>>92183433
yeah, I actually really surprised about the neck slice because it was something that was really important to the whole story. But now they're just constantly showing blood and it makes it feel so boring.

I would rather have an creative way of showing a punch or a slice than just the usual "blood blood everywhere" look

>>92187453
Season 5 of SJ has taught me I never should listen to this place opinion.
But seriously, i think people daydreamed way too much about this new season.

>>92187487
Anon, he ruined his career himself.

He had
One
Job.

>>92187518
"pretending to be retarded" thread?

>>92187560
Too bad it didn't teach you independent opinion and critical thought. Oh well, can't win 'em all I guess.

>>92187302
>>92187543
>>This fucking season will cost him his reputation.
>season five is still wildly successful, despite not living up to the astronomical expectations
>directed at least two successful movies with a third on the way
>created four successful shows and directed another
nah

>>92187535
In your head maybe, anon. I thinks it was "very good"

>>92187582
The main purpose of pretty much any punishment is deterrent. That's the point of my analogy there.

>>92187543
>Man who thought he'd lost all his reputation loses last additional bit of reputation he didn't even know he still had

>>92187569
>He ruined his career himself

Last time I checked he's still making money. You sure you aren't thinking of your own career?

>>92187376
Well, he already did by pissing off tumblr and some of reddit.

All he has to do is something that severely pisses off 4chan within the last two episodes and he's set.

>>92187560
>Oh, Genndy give me more of your cummies
Try not to be such a drone

>>92187611
When the Western animation industry is a fucking wasteland like it is now, they'll take who they can get. Doesn't mean he's actually good at his job.

>>92187626
>N-No /co/ don't shun me!

Don't be such a circlejerking contrarian.

>>92187302
>This fucking season will cost him his reputation.
The delusion in this thread is terrifying.

>>92187611
He'll still make movies but that's it. Nobody will see him as a visionary anymore, just another director who Lucas'd himself with his own arrogance and lack of executive constraint.

>>92182873
The fuck is happening on this thread?
Are people that outraged or its just baiting?

>>92187695
>He'll still make movies but that's it. I DON'T see him as a visionary anymore, just another director who Lucas'd himself with his own arrogance and lack of executive constraint.
Keep the bitterness to yourself, anon. c^:

>>92187694
This is the same place that created the Brony trend "Ironically", expect high levels of autism.

>>92187788
I agree with that anon, and I'm glad he shared his view so I don't feel like some sort of loser for thinking this season is shit.

>>92187739
Little bit of column A, little bit of column B. then again one should never underestimate 4chan's ability to go full retard.

>>92187302
>It's just that he became so full of himself he decided to try a personal thing instead of figuring an ending that would satisfy people the most.
So what you're saying is that rather than making what he wanted to make, he should have pandered more.

>>92187739
The show is popular as hell, so people are getting easy (you)s by saying its shitty.

>>92187015

so, how's liking Korra like?

>>92187829
>4chan is one person
Yup. Full retard.

>>92187815
>I agree with myself
okay

>>92187453
>gently

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>>92187695
>just another director who Lucas'd himself with his own arrogance and lack of executive constraint.

I think you might be taking this far too seriously.

>>92187834
Yes. That's the reason anime is successful.

It was logical to expect for this to be at least as good as the original samurai jack. Yet it doesn't have anything memorable or interesting.

Hell, the most memorable thing from it (aside from the ending I guess)is how it was divisive in its entirety. I wanted a season that was fun and enjoyable and that we could laugh about it and be happy that it exists. It's literally the opposite now.

>>92187739
I'm genuinely outraged desu.

The show show a drop in quality after episode 3.

Then the pacing and narrative issues came with episode 5.

Then it really dropped the shark when it rushed over Jack and Ashi's issues like they were nothing.

After yesterday's episode, I don't really see a reason to bother finishing it now.

I expect Korra-levels of shittalking and backlash a week or two after the final episode.

>>92187871
>anon can't read
How tragic

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I'm still liking it but... where's all of the things that made the show good in the first place?

SJ was good for three reasons:
1. Style
2. Villains
3. Variety

Each new episode you had something completely new, you never knew what to expect.

The only stylized thing in this entire new episode was the oasis scene with the white background and that was what, 30 seconds?
The villain is a completely generic "it's a monster that regenerates" thing.

It's fine. It's passable. But there has to be some kind of substitute for the lacking variety and there just isn't.
They're trying to flesh out the characters but Ashi's entire character arc so far is "she was evil and now she's not," if anything she's LESS interesting now because there's literally no conflict betwen her and Jack.
Jack really went from "full JUST" to "exactly the same as he always was except now he's with some girl who wears leaves."

It's like they're sacrificing style and villains for character focus but the character focus is literally nothing.

The first episode was great because Scaramouche was exactly what I wanted out of Samurai Jack. Jack walks into a place, a crazy weird villain shows up, and they fight with some gimmick that makes it interesting.
Now all that's happening is "Jack and Ashi walk into a place and fight something and at the end they're closer I guess."
Nevermind the fact that Ashi still looks like 10 years younger than Jack and it just feels weird.

I think the fact that Scaramouche is still alive goes to show that they just couldn't come up with anything new.
On top of the episode where they literally just had all of Jack's most memorable villains show up for a short scene to go "hey remember when this show used to have personality?"

Fucking hell, at least have more Aku scenes or something.
Speaking of which, remember when there was an entire episode devoted to Aku trying to tell fairytales to children? Y'know, variety?

>>92187876
Samefag accusations on an anonymous board = automatically lost argument by accuser

>>92186922
This. It honestly isnt hard to make osmething thats 9/10 at the least unless youre a complete soulless hack.

>>92186624
Its pretty bad. The whole thing feels like some teenager's edgy reboot of the series than something the original creators made. It has little glimpses of the original Jack, but overall it feels worse in every regard.

Though honestly, all of that I would be okay with if the pacing wasn't so ungodly bad. Every episode feels SO padded to meet the run time, but its not been as obvious as the last one they did. It really feels like they don't know how to pace longer stories and should have stuck with the one or two ep stories the original had.

>>92187834
Depends if their original vision is genuinely good or not.

And Genndy's original vision wasn't good in the slightest.

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Then make your own cool artsy cartoon show, you goddamn fucking child.

During the writing of OP's post he could have come up with a premise for a similar show and pitched it to CN or AS, and given Jack's popularity it likely would be accepted.

Whining about what you have when you could be working to change it is the most immature nonsense imaginable.

>>92187234
>>92187270
Not an argument

>>92187739
I swear to god, this echo chamber is getting out of control. People are talking about how this is going to cost him his reputation when this season has gotten good reviews and consistent, solid ratings, but since there are like 20 people on an image-board mad that there was a romance arc in this season, it's suddenly the worst betrayal imaginable, and we need to start a tumblr-style campaign against him.

>>92187927
What did you think of the other episodes, anon?

>>92187944
Because everybody here works in animation.

>>92187834
It just shouldnt have been made.

>>92187927
>The only stylized thing in this entire new episode was the oasis scene with the white background and that was what, 30 seconds?

I thought the tigers with their spell-out shirts were pretty cool desu.

>>92187963
>WAAAH if you can't cook you can't criticize a chef for giving you a plate with literal shit
Genndy cocksuckers get more and more desperate by the hour

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>>92187922
>dropped the shark

>>92188004
There's far more talent on /co/ alone than in the entire GLOBAL animation industry.

I'm serious.

>>92187985
/v/fags are so starved for another TORtanic they are raiding other boards for material

Real shame.

>>92187985
The romance subplot is pretty bad, but its by far the only reason people don't like it. The pacing is pretty terrible on the whole and a lot of what made the original popular has been left at the wayside for this new season.

>>92187487
Its called positive punishment, pal, read a book.

>>92188039
Can this be a meme?
Like that weird S thing?

>>92187963
>Then make your own cool artsy cartoon show, you goddamn fucking child.

I'm sure plenty would if they had the connections, the budget or the studio to do so.

>>92186624
It's fine. It's also unsurprising that people on /co/ are taking a 10 episode miniseries conclusion to a 14 year old cartoon too seriously and whining that there's fanservice

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>>92187927
> Speaking of which, remember when there was an entire episode devoted to Aku trying to tell fairytales to children? Y'know, variety?

You mean this?

>>92188049
Yes, asses are good sources of information!

>>92188049
>There's far more talent on /co/ alone than in the entire GLOBAL animation industry.

More like the talent in the global animation industry is immensely repressed.

>episodes 1-3 fucking genius
>episodes 4-7 perfectly fine
>episode 8 was over 20 minutes long but felt like 3 and I don't know what to expect anymore, his smile and enthusiasm gone

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>>92187985
Not everyone talks about this show, even if they don't like it. They just don't bother knowing that people on the internet can't handle the criticism anyway.

There is no point in arguing with you but I think there are going to be pretty cruel and honest reviews from the right people at some point in the future. This is not a good season, you may like it, but its flaws make it barely passable as a conclusion to the critically acclaimed Samurai Jack.

>>92188113
... which is why said repressed talent is on /co/.

>>92188004
In general, not just animation. If youre in any applicable field this holds true.

>>92188120
>episodes 4-7 perfectly fine
just leave

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>>92188002
They were good until Jack and Ashi actually teamed up. The whole inside-a-giant-monster thing isn't incredibly original but whatever, it was enough of a fun setting.
Scaramouche was obviously great, and Jack fighting the daughters of Aku was actually edgy enough to be interesting just because it was so different from everything so far.

Everything since then has felt like Samurai Jack fanfiction.
Perfectly serviceable fanfiction, well-animated and all that, but made by someone that has no actual imagination or artistic vision.

>>92188022
They were so short-lived though. They only existed for the sake of a visual gag and so that a sexual tension scene could happen.
The episode straight up could have started with Jack and Ashi in the sandstorm and walking into the prison, nothing whatsoever would have changed about the episode.
Who the fuck even were those tiger guys? Did they work for Aku or something?

>>92188179
I'm not going to claim I'm some sort of master critic, in fact I only came back to /co/ for this season and episode 8 was the first time so far that I've doubted bothering to see the next one.

>>92188120
>episodes 4-7 perfectly fine
get the fuck out, contrarian circlejerk only.

>Episode 1
Blackpilled/10 no hope for jack
>Episode 2
Blackpilled/10 no hope for jack
>Episode 3
Oh theyre gonna fuck
>Episode 4
Oh theyre definitely gonna fuck
>Episode 5
7/10
>Episode 6
Fanservice-or-worldbuilding-Im-not-sure-which/10
>Episode 7
Rushed ending/10
>Episode 8
KINO ENDING/10

Overall this show's a solid 8 and I dont care what any of you whiny niggas say

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>>92188133
>but I think there are going to be pretty cruel and honest reviews from the right people at some point in the future.
Holy shit this delusion. Please for once in your life, step outside.

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>>92188028
You going to come up with a better argument instead of calling out people that don't care about your blog posts about how you don't like a show for not catering to your custom tailored needs?

>WHAAA, Why do I have to defend myself? I should just be able to say something is shit and have the creator kiss my ass and create a new show for me personally because my own taste are too refined for the rest of these peasants.

This is what a child does, go back to tumblr with the rest of the triggered folk.

>G-Gendyfag
Wow, you sure showed me.

>>92188049
show me

>>92188179
>>92188230
You know what? I think i was just being optimist when i watched those then. Yesterdays episode completely dropped the shark.

>>92188212
>They were good until Jack and Ashi actually teamed up.
I think you're forgetting the Aku scene in episode 2. Pretty much agreed on your other points, though.

>>92188246
>8/10
So you admit that it's complete trash

Good

>>92187302

Nah, on the contraire, this is the way most people will be satisfied. The pleb way.

The guy fucking killed six humans for the first time in his life and he already does not give a fuck anymore. She had her body burned for years, was brutally trained since childhood to be a violent assassin and to hate Jack with the very best of herself, and now she's fucking him dressed as Tinkerbell.

This is what we deserve, guys.

(of course I think first three chapters were awesome as well)

If the show was Jack picking off random assassins sent by aku one after another, collecting an arsenal of weaponry along the way that would've been cool, but I appreciate the variety and subverted expectations too.

>>92188246
I'd rate it a 9, but it depends on the ending where I actually stand. It looks like they're going into the guardian. They knew they had to touch up on it.

>>92188250
>but I think there are going to be pretty cruel and honest reviews from the right people at some point in the future.
>the right people
Can you not read anon? Or are you blind from Genndy skullfucking you so much

>>92188307
the lack of ashi in those walking sequences make me wonder if it isn't a flashback

>>92188250
>reviewing before the season's end
>rotten tomatoes

Give me IMDB's ratings that make the worst episode of this season better than any episode from the old seasons. Great argument you fucking retard.

>>92188282
Oh fuck, I never even thought of it this way. When you put it like that the show drops from like a 4/10 to a 0/10 in my mind.

>>92188246
You should care about MY opinion.

>>92186624
Its not bad but there's 10 episodes to close 4 seasons and years of loose ends, the pacing doesn't allow for an episodic adventure, its more a movie put in pieces, it still has some amazing visuals and music, and the story is not glaringly different.

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>>92187376
>>92187302
is this bait? you guys sound exactly how butthurt redditors do before they do something retarded

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Ashi is a literal Mary Sue and drags down the entire show.

>>92182873
I like how there's an accepted tumblrfag narrative now of 'the first three episodes were good but X ruined it for me.
You queens are so dramatic

>>92188407
tumblrfags love this show because it checks the most important thing for them - the romance. Its literally the last thing Jack needed but oh well

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>>92188320
>>92188133
Reminder that it's always been like this.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=229165
Anyone appealing to the idea that "some time in the future" the reviews and overall perception of the season will be that it sucks are most likely in for the opposite, becausethere were still shitposters during the original run, and yet /co/ just voted Jack their favorite cartoon of all time. It's not going to matter what people on an internet forum thought about the season in 5-10 years.

>>92188407
it's the new contrarian bandwagon. My least favorite episode is 5.

>>92188446
>tumblrfags love this show because it checks the most important thing for them - the romance
Nope. It's heterosexual romance, so they're seething over it.

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>>92188446
>a-actually tumblr loves it!
The deflection is real

>>92188348
>and years of loose ends
Confirmed for not watching the original series, eh?
>and the story is not glaringly different
BAHAHA

>>92188039

>ate the shark
>kicked the shark
>humped the shark

all require body parts anon

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>>92186624
>>92186624
Brief breakdown:

First three episodes are godly, and lives up to an "edgier" Samurai Jack that effectively sells the hopelessness of Jack's situation.

Fourth and Fifth episodes mark the first drop in quality by being filler, and going against Jack's characterization for a more jokey approach that feels out of place, followed by more somber.

Sixth episode is a return to form, with Aishi's journey taking her across a nostalgia trip to meet the people Samurai Jack saved, and does an excellent job at making you realize there's still hope for Jack and to convince Aishi that Jack truly means well. This should have been Episode 4 and 5.

Like, I don't know. Jack despairs over realizing that the sisters had no say choice in their lifestyle and despairs over killing innocents, and disappears to commit seppuku while Aishi proceeds to try and hunt him down by herself, and accidentally meets everyone Jack saved.

Seventh was still pretty good and builds up on the previous one, with the successful return of Samurai Jack and his sword.

This eight episode is pretty standard, but nothing fantastic.

I'd say it's doing pretty well, but the standards set by the first three episodes were so high that the show couldn't help but go down after that.

There's a general problem with pacing, though.

>>92188348
>seasons and years of loose ends
Confirmed for not knowing shit about the original series.

>>92188533
For once I'm actually pleased Tumblr hates something, even for the wrong reasons. This season seriously needs a critical reality check, all I've seen for it in the mainstream media is praise.

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>Only have 10 episodes and Samurai Jack is gone forever
>Spend the majority of the season stuffing it with filler
>Spend the majority of the season developing the "character" of some shitty mary sue
>Kill off the Scotsman for no reason
>Have an entire episode full of nothing but nostalgic circlejerking of "HEY REMEMBER THIS?"
>Two episodes left and there's still so much fucking shit to cover
>Two episodes left and Aku hasn't been an antagonist at all
>Two episodes left and Aku has had less screentime than a meme-robot and a literally-who-fucking-cares waifu-bait cunt
>Samurai Jack will be gone forever after three goat-tier episodes and a shitty waifu-bait filled season

>>92188590
>"heterosexual nonsense"
>reality check
this is a new low

>>92188590
>all I've seen for it in the mainstream media is praise.
>dumb people like sex pandering shit
Like pottery.

>>92188567
The later episodes were much worse than the 4th and 5th ones:
E6: horrendously depressing cameos, shows a lack of actual creator vision, preferring edginess
E7: Ashi's scene beyond terrible, Jack's asspull
E8: nothing of any value in this one, literal 0/10

>>92188661
>even for the wrong reasons
Do you even read bro?

>>92188567
>Fourth and Fifth episodes mark the first drop in quality by being filler, and going against Jack's characterization for a more jokey approach that feels out of place, followed by more somber.
Can you explain this at all? How is an episode in which Jack shows Ashi what Aku's true nature is marking a key transition point for her, and that ends with Jack confronting his desire to die for his perceived failures a filler episode in the least? I'll try to explain this to you, because you seem confused. A filler episode is an episode that is there to fill time in an anime to give the manga time to catch up. The idea is that you could take it out and nothing would really change. How is something as pivotal as Jack's suicidal thoughts filler?

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>>92188590
Talk about dropping the shark, anon...

>>92188645
This. For a 10 episode season, it feels like the majority of every episode has either been filler, or trying to develop a brand new character.

>>92188688
>complaining even for the wrong reasons
>reality check
lowest

>>92188590
If you're at the point where you're agreeing with tumblr's lunatic hetero-hating fringe, maybe you're the one that needs to examine yourself.

>>92188645
>>Only have 10 episodes and Samurai Jack is gone forever

Why do you think he left the gap in chapters as well as years?

If he ever wants to return to episodic for the sake of more SJ he can or can have somebody else take the helm. Season 5 creates a conclusion which is something everybody wanted before it initially ended, then any other season can be used to further explain more adventures that lead to his last meeting with Aku on the mountain.

>>92188732
I'm not, I want to use them to my advantage, to get normies to hate the season.

>>92188699
There was no reason to have Ashi know why Aku is evil, or why people like Jack. I mean of course, if there was no Ashi around to begin with.

She dragged down the series. She is wasted screentime, wasted loose ends that will be left untied.

>>92188699
Not that guy, and I can't remember which eps are 4 and 5 off the top of my head, but most of the episodes contain obnoxious levels of filler to pad out the run time. They all generally touch upon something that needs to be touched on, but usually stretch it out for far too long.

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>>92188590
>Critical Reality Check

Here's one for you, you don't belong here.

>>92188746
You've gone too far to the dark side now. You're more shitposter than man now. Twisted and evil.

>>92188779
You used a screenshot from my favorite cartoon against me!?

I'm literally shaking right now.

>>92188759
>wasted loose ends that will be left untied.
I'm waiting on you to describe what you think these are.

>>92188740
If it was going to end like this, I'd rather have it end in cliffhanger.

>>92188785
It's 5D chess, /co/ wouldn't understand anyways.

>>92188567
He was seeing visions of failure before Ashi came into the scene. The visions stopped as soon as she wanted to hang around him. Then he was so fucking pessimistic by that episode that he decided to just end it all. 50 years of depression culminating into suicide when his own mind kept telling him to do it.

Those cameos made me tear up because they showed the after effects many decades later.

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>>92188746
D E V I L I S H

>>92188765
>but most of the episodes contain obnoxious levels of filler to pad out the run time.
Are you talking about the individual challenges in each episode? Because that's not filler, that's SAMURAI JACK. If you never watched the original show, it's best if you just admit it now rather than embarrassing yourself more.

>>92188699
Because all of those pivotal points could be condensed into a singular, meatier episode.

Fourth episode was 20 minutes of fish, and 2 minutes of Aishi not killing Jack.

Fifth episode was 10 minutes of Jack telling, not showing, and 2 minutes of Jack confronting his suicidal thoughts.

Out of those 44 minutes of airtime, roughly 4 actually drove the plot forward, and the last 10 were redundant and could be conjoined into the storyline of Aishi searching for Samurai Jack via, maybe the people Jack saved making it obvious to Aishi that all bad shit that happened, happened because of Aku.

>>92188817
What the fuck happened to the baby.
What the fuck will every character that appeared in the remember episode will do to contribute to the finale
What will happen with Scara, Scots, Aku, the guard, and the fucking past itself?

Shit won't be able to wrap all of this in any convincing manner. I guess i shouldn't bother watching the finale anyways, it can't be any good given how they've pushed this shit to its limit.

>>92188893
>Because all of those pivotal points could be condensed into a singular, meatier episode.
If it was, you shits would just whine about how rushed it was, and say "poor pacing".

>>92188963
It's not my goddamned fault that pacing is fucked. It's the animators job to make sure the pacing works fine. As it is, the plot already rushed past the romance, past Aishi's mother, past Jack's depression, and past the lost sword. There's only the promise of Jack fighting Aku to keep the series going.

>>92188931
>What the fuck happened to the baby.
Well that was SUPPOSED to be open ended. Why the fuck would you even expect that to be a plot point later? The point of that episode was to show Jack had an effect on the kid. IT was a 20 minute vignette like most things in the original run.
>What the fuck will every character that appeared in the remember episode will do to contribute to the finale
>What will happen with Scara, Scots, Aku, the guard, and the fucking past itself?
Dumb to complain about things like that which can easily tie into the final episode. What do you think it really takes to wrap up a plot point that's literally just "an army is amassing against Aku"? If that's what you think will be left untied, I don't know what to tell you except, who do you think will be fighting Aku in the final episode? Use your common sense.

>>92189037
Jack's depression lasted 5 fucking episodes, how was that rushed? The lost sword shit can be seen coming a mile away, it's a magic fucking sword that he's never lost without reason before.

>>92189106
FUCKING SAVED

>>92189106
>implying any of those endings are really better than what we're gonna get

jesus christ

>>92188931
Who gives a fuck about the baby?

The Scotsman is putting together an army offscreen. We will see the people who had a cameo in episode 6 fight to the death. The guardian is addressed in the promo for episode 9. Jack's going to really kick Aku's ass this time, which is what I wanted.

Who knows what's going to happen with the past or if Jack is going to save his people and family?
>>92189037
The pacing being a bit rushed is kinda objective, but the degree is subjective. As in, you're making a bigger deal out of this than it actually is.

>>92186624
The latter

>>92189106
>Any ending that is well done and feels wholesome and conclusive and well done and true to the original style and the original show we all enjoyed as children....

Maximum Autismo.

>>92189037
So first you say "shove all these plot points into one episode, don't waste time on them", and now you're saying they rushed through them too fast. You don't even know what you want.

>>92188860
I've seen the original show, and honestly? It was far better than this in every aspect.

And I'm talking about how every fuckign scene drags on for ages and usually accomplishes little. In the original this was fine because the pace of the episodes was rather quick because it had its own individual story to tell that usually ended on the same episode or shortly after.

In this one, most of the individual stories are generally not the point, and usually get treated as such. That said, I'm not talking about that specifically, but rather how individual scenes drag on or are flat out unneeded. Many often beat you over the head with a point, usually lackin any subtility. Which wouldn't be a problem mind, if it wasn't for the fact this was a 10 ep season with only 30 mins per ep.

>>92189157
Why not? Everybody would be satisfied with everything except the ashi's part

>>92188246

>KINO ENDING

HE USED A SONG LMAO THEY KISS

>>92189182
>Many often beat you over the head with a point, usually lackin any subtility.
Can you explain this more? What subtlety is lacking that was there in the original?

>>92189182
>most of the individual stories are generally not the point

that's because the final season is just one big arc. Jack is 50 years older and hasn't made any progress against Aku.

There.

>>92189182
>Which wouldn't be a problem mind, if it wasn't for the fact this was a 10 ep season with only 30 mins per ep.
It would still be a big problem, just slightly smaller.

>>92186624
Rick and morty circle jerk. ignore them. New series is great.

>>92188486
I can see that. I loved the scotsman bit, but the rest is kinda meh.
Aside from Jacks 10/10 suit

>>92188327
He might be fucking dead.

>>92189106
hahahaha

How can Jashifags ever recover, Genndy forever BTFO

>>92182873
The REAL problem, that I don't think I've seen too many /co/mrades mention is that Jack used to be really quiet. Not stoic, but just quiet. In the original series he had very little to say because he rarely had anyone to interact with. This forced the animators to find a way to tell the story visually, and Genndy delivered with cool visuals, ultraviolence, and the simple alegorical story that the series was based off of. Adding Ashi really ruined the series, not because she's a bad character, (she's alright, but I don't think a romance is where the series should have went,) but because she makes Jack talkative, and because Jack is talkative, they don't rely on the visuals anymore to tell the story. As a result you'll notice that the new season has very few letterbox shots, much less action, and a lot of filler and talking to pad the series. The result isn't a bad series, but no one wanted to watch a Samurai Jack about Jack and cute chink saving the future. Also her addition takes away from time that could be spent developing Jack. When they introduced his borderline personality disorder, I was hoping that it would be a handicap when he fought Aku, or something that Aku would try to take advantage of. They threw it away too early IMO. Lastly, Aku himself is terrible. The new VA doesn't do him justice (I know there's no helping that) and he's too intentionally funny this season. There were only a few times in the original series where he was funny, and it was always deadpan, or him being very aware of the episodic struggle between him and Jack. None of this ruins the series, but they're all detrimental to it.

also fuck the new opening
>gotta get back
>back to the past
>samurai jack
>*BBBBWWWWWOOOOOPPPP*

Literally
>wow Shinji, I guess we really are the Neon Genesis Evangelion

>>92188348
Those "loose ends" were concluded in the episode with the exception of the guardian which they HAD to address.

>>92189305
You ruined a great post with that last bit. The new opening is excellent.

>>92188327
The Decription mentions that Aku discovers something about Ashi in the episode, they could have spit up to look for Aku's fortress. Ashi getting captured probably while Jack discovers the time portal again.

>>92188486
>>92189261
If you rated 5 below 4, 6, 7, and/or 8, you're insane.

>>92189208
I won't say Ashi's flawless, but she's not bad. Her addition leads to a more interesting finale than what you presented.

I'd much prefer Jack having some sort of moral dilemma at the end of his journey than just him getting to Aku, fighting, and the show ending. There's more to his character than defeating Aku. Ashi saved Jack and got him back on track. She adds a new dynamic to the show.

>>92189219
Have you watched the most recent episode? I'm not saying the original was a work of art, but god damn if that wasn't the most hamfisted cliched attempt at pretty much anything.

>>92189305
>The new VA doesn't do him justice (I know there's no helping that) and he's too intentionally funny this season. There were only a few times in the original series where he was funny, and it was always deadpan, or him being very aware of the episodic struggle between him and Jack.
I'm surprised not many people bring this up. That's honestly been one of the few problems I've had so far, that they seems to have fallen for the "EXTRA THICC" memes and forgotten that the fun thing about Aku was that he was ultimate evil who reveled in betrayal and subjugation and his pride, which made the occasional contrast of him being a joke work. They don't to the echoey discordant ominous music when Aku comes onscreen anymore. The characterization is much different, which I suppose I can get in terms of how they're trying to show Aku has become despondent, but he just doesn't seem grandiose like he used to be.

Hadn't watched the episode yet.

Went to the archived thread and, well, Everybody loves somebody sometime

>>92189447
Yes, I watched the entire Original run, and this entire season. I'm still waiting for you to explain what you mean about the lack of subtlety. The original series had the astronauts explain how they could send him back to the past, or the dogs explain how they were imprisoned, or the archers explain how they had been cursed. So what's different about the newest episode?

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>>92187963
You need to be over 18 to post here, kiddo.
I'll explain the harshness of reality to you, because you're too young to fully understand how this kind of thing works.

You don't get your idea pushed into production by just being good. You don't get your idea recognized based on how compelling it may be. You get it recognized based on connections - who you know and who they know. Most of the time, talent doesn't mean anything. Most of the time, that degree in animation or storywriting you have under your belt will be as useful as a roll of toilet paper. Most of the time, you'll work your ass off and try your hardest, only to have every opportunity ahead of you swiped by the son of the director's wife. You'll pour your heart and soul, give up full days to your idea, and it may very well never see the light of day. If it was so easy for pitched ideas to actually get to the level of being accepted by anyone who matters, you'd probably see a lot less mediocrity and a lot more creativity.

Life is shit, kid. You think Donald Trump or Hilary Clinton got their nominations from being great leaders that actually know what they're doing? You think fucking JEB BUSH got as far as he did based on his own merits? Ahahahahah, fuckin Jeb. Okay, I'm in a good mood again. Someone make a cartoon series out of Jeb.

>>92189406
I rate 5 below those episodes. Yes, I'm the sanest person here.

>>92189500
>That's honestly been one of the few problems I've had so far
You have shit taste.

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>ITT

S5 has been good so far. Calm the hell down.

>>92189363
it's really just Jack calling himself 'Samurai Jack'

Feels so wrong on so many levels

>>92189500
The way they portray him is either really comically evil (Fun fact: that was the last time portal in existence), or mopey and depressed. If they wanted him to also have brain problems, they should have made him paranoid. They could have made him murder some grunt just because the grunt snuck up on him in his layer. Have him portrayed as losing his mind to chaos as opposed to the 'lawful evil' thing he had going.

>>92189582
The old series would explain any backstories or whatever, but once it came down to doing anything, it was just Jack and his blade vs endless mooks. Now him and Ashi are saying 'we're lost' to each other.

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So we can all agree that Genndy was nothing more then an overhyped meme animator, right?

>>92189305
>When they introduced his borderline personality disorder

Completely agree with you, but I'm pretty sure that pre-Ashi Jack was either suffering from schizophrenia or heavy PTSD - not borderline persoanlity.

>>92189637
5 at least had some stuff going for it. All of those episodes were at or near 0/10, with the possible exception of #7.

>>92189673
>if you don't like this train wreck of a season you're an autist!
kys

>>92189678
>it's really just Jack calling himself 'Samurai Jack'
>Feels so wrong on so many levels
Why?

>>92189679
More like he's another Lucas case that needs to monitored by a competent studio or producer so that he doesn't go full retard.

>>92189621
t. untalented artist

>>92182873
I never watched Samurai Jack during its original run, but having watched the original run and the new season, I gotta say I like the newer season better.

>>92189621
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lil'_Bush

Aku reveals that he planted a bit of himself in all the daughters to keep his "soul" spread across for better protection against Jack. For he knew the foolish samurai warrior would fall in love with one of them. Although to be truthfully he tells Jack he forgot about that adventure he did, and was wondering the whole episode why Ashi's name sounded familiar. He ends the talk with his usual laugh.

I put too much hope into Genndy.

>>92189679
>meme animator
incidentally the animation is probably the only thing about the new season I don't think anyone can complain about

>>92189686
Borderline personality disorder may be characterized by the following signs and symptoms:

Markedly disturbed sense of identity
Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment and extreme reactions to such
Splitting ("black-and-white" thinking)
Impulsivity and impulsive or dangerous behaviours
Intense or uncontrollable emotional reactions that often seem disproportionate to the event or situation
Unstable and chaotic interpersonal relationships
Self-damaging behavior
Distorted self-image[3]
Dissociation
Frequently accompanied by depression, anxiety, anger, substance abuse, or rage

Yeah it's probably not the best prognosis, but I'm too lazy to REALLY dig into it.

>>92189734
Because who the fuck says their own name.

>gotta get back
>back to the past
okay so he's frantic and desperate
>Samurai Jack
the TV opening equivalent of you saying 'Oh fuck I'm going to miss my exam and flunk out of university. Student David Davidson'

who says their own name and refers to themselves by their status?

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>tfw you fell for the Samurai Jack meme
I have never been so angry and depressed before in my life, fuck Genndy for being such a waifushitter

>>92189621
I see you're the open-minded sort. Want something REAL mind-blowing, that you'll never read on /pol/?
The Soviet employment system nurtured actual talent. Those honest communists!

>>92189500
I'm indiffrent about the voice actor since they really didn't have much choice with Mako dead but I do enjoy Aku's out of character precence this season.

Seeing him go from such a dark and ominous God to an Exhausted Tyrant was last thing I was expecting from the adult swim shift. Having him be just as depressed about having to keep this fight up for 50 years was a welcomed twist.

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>>92189106

>>92189582
If you saw the two, you shouldn't need someone to explain how its different.

The original series wasn't about character development and hardly had any any reoccuring characters. IT didn't have the time nor luxury to go slow most episodes.

This time around, it doesn't have that excuse, and character development IS the focus. So when its stretching out episodes devoting time to other things, and only giving the briefest most cliche touches to the plot points it wants to handle, it comes off as terrible.

>>92189858
>fell for X meme

No you're just a trending fag like most of the people bitching.

>>92189843

>Yeah it's probably not the best prognosis, but I'm too lazy to REALLY dig into it.

As someone who actually suffers from BPD, I can assure you that Jack doesn't have it by any means.

But when it comes to potential cartoon character reps for the illness, then characters like Bojack Horseman or Rick Sanchez are genuine fits for the label.

>>92189843
It's not something he would say on the show anyway, it's just the opening monologue from Jack instead of Aku, this is not a real complaint as it's just a fucking 30 second opening.

>>92189843
I dunno man, I still find the new opening awesome. Rest of the season is largely shit though, even the first 3 episodes are highly overrated here on /co/.

>>92189714
>come join the bandwagon!

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>>92189777
>777
Praise kek.

>>92182873
>I miss original Jack's subtlety, visuals, music and the overall presentation.

It didn't go anywhere

>>92189678
>it's really just Jack calling himself 'Samurai Jack'
He refers to himself as "Samurai Jack" in "Jack and the warrior woman", and that's season 1, so there's more evidence for the fact that you have a blurry and skewed memory of the original run. It explains a lot about how nonsensical your other criticisms are. Because
>but once it came down to doing anything, it was just Jack and his blade vs endless mooks.
Is often not true. Sometimes jack would use his wits, sneak into places, plan solutions that weren't about physical prowess, or even help build something. You've got a simplistic view of what Samurai Jack is, which is why you don't like this season. You're comparing it to maybe 5 episodes you saw rather than the show as a whole.

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>>92189858
>tfw you didn't fall for the cynical meme

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>>92190101
>it's only a bandwagon when it disagrees with me
>not when they're willing to eat up any old dribble Genndy shits out and don't accept any of the multitude of valid criticsms
kys

>>92190159
Not that anon, but whenever Jack did that stuff it would be INTERESTING and FUN. Not like this shit

It all comes down to GOOD WRITING. (Not Ashi!)

>>92189991
Not that anon but I was a big fan when I started watching the series back when it aired in 2001 and I agree with them; the new season is just total shit at large and an absolute disgrace to the original series.

The only good thing to come out of this shitheap were the first three pre-Ashi episodes, which were god-tier.

>>92186624
>is it just /co/ bitching for the sake of bitching?

Its this

The new episodes are great. Lots of fun. The people who are disappointed aren't just enjoying the ride, they are pitting the show against their perfect fantasy ending.

There's no major pacing issues. The humor is still the same as it was. The art and music are top notch

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>>92188484
In the end you're all fucking faggots all of /co/ and tumbler accept this and move on you don't have to like it but others like myself don't want to hear it.

>>92189988
>IT didn't have the time nor luxury to go slow most episodes.
But that's incredibly wrong. You just get more and more inaccurate with each post. Sometimes the episodes packed in a more complex plot, but other times, they did something simpler so that they could go slower, and relish taking their time to focus on visuals. You're right that there is more character development and linear progression this time around, but this has nothing to do with what I was talking about in terms of subtlety.

>>92187250

I've been enjoying it more and more each episode.

Stop being salty and expecting too much.

>>92187302
>instead of figuring an ending that would satisfy people the most.

thats the Marvel MCU cowards way out.

>>92190197
>Not that anon, but whenever Jack did that stuff it would be INTERESTING and FUN. Not like this shit
Maybe you just don't enjoy things anymore? I mean if you can't come up with a defensible difference between then and now except "I enjoyed this but not this". What was the last cartoon you actually enjoyed?

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>>92189621
Connections make getting your work known is much easier.

But you are still excluding every single outside in the history of cartoon's influence, which makes you look incredibly retarded.

You think Mike Judge had any connections? You think the author of One Punch man had any connections?

>Life is shit
No. Your writing is shit.

>>92190189
Very flawed criticism. Trust me, jump off the bandwagon, anon.

>>92190262
Name some eps with a complex plot.

>>92188484
You can find haters for any show, you're right.

Doesn't change whether the show is objectively well-made, and in particular well-written. nuSJ ain't.

>>92190317
>your criticisms aren't valid
nu-Jackfags everyone

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>>92186624
It will be what you decide it is, anon. And that opinion will be as valuable as any other person's, made from your own tastes and world-view.

>>92190320
Jack and the Haunted House.
Jack is naked.

>>92186624
Most of /co/ is butthurt.

>>92187453
This

>>92190308
I watched like half of Jack for the first time just now - I missed many episodes as a kid. I was stunned by how good some of them were, particularly in seasons 3 and 4 (season 2 was pretty bad tho). Nothing in season 5 has come close yet (even season 2 is better at this point).

As for other shows, I used to like ATLA but have slowly grown to dislike it because of the overall rather poor writing, particularly in Book 3 but really throughout the show. Teen Titans, on the other hand, is fucking awesome and that's that. (Both of these I watched long after childhood.)

>>92190262
>Sometimes the episodes packed in a more complex plot
Off the top of my head, the one with the moth aliens had a full on 3 act structure, another episode had 3 smaller fable-like stories (with the wishing worm, the cannibal robots and the fairy). The "Jump good" episode combined Jack's struggle against Aku with Jack learning a new skill, and Jack helping a group he cam across.

Other episodes were simpler, like having an episode mostly just focusing on Jack fighting a Ninja, or Jack trying to sneak into a guarded facility to get an important jewel, or fighting off droves of beetle drones.

>>92190480
Meant for >>92190320

>>92189735
I fucking hate the le George Lucas meme because people use it against ANY creator that makes something they like then makes something they don't like.
But it's not because the creator is their own person who thinks on their own wavelength, and it's almost impossible for them to always please you while also doing what they personally want. NOOOOOOOOOO, it's because they suddenly became a talentless hack. Or better yet, they were apparently always a hack and it was someone else who was the REAL genius.

lol this board is so retarded the new season of samurai jack is great don't listen to these idiots

>>92190522
>But it's not because the creator is their own person who thinks on their own wavelength, and it's almost impossible for them to always please you while also doing what they personally want.
The thing is, this is almost literally impossible.

>>92190530
It's hard to believe you when you type like a fucking autist.

>>92187160
>tfw garbage like Hayate no Gotoku lived for 13 years on wasting people's precious time and resource
>tfw Samurai Jack spent 13+ years to make a decent comeback and disclosure
>Yet some fans still think that garbage moeshit manga is good
moeshit anime IS cancer

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>this thread
And here thinking that the /co/mblr thing was a myth

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Every time someone gives a dissenting opinion about this show, they are met with accusations of being a contrarian, an echo chamber, a virgin, or some other projection.

Whether this is coming from the majority of this board or a load minority, the levels in which people will create their own narratives about how people talk about cartoons is sociopathic.

Also
>

>>92190602
Well I'm glad you came to that revelation with the exact same wording and sentence structure as everyone else does.

>>92190622
You're giving the nuSJ fanboys more ammo here. You have to emphasize the other problems with the season, which are much, much worse than "muh shitty ship".

>>92190568
Fucking exactly, that's my whole point.

Old SJ didn't push heteronormativity down our throats.

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>>92186593
Actually it is. The pink butterfly girl is even voiced by Tara Strong just like Ilana.

>>92190712
I meant the whole thing.

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>>92190606
>Whether this is coming from the majority of this board or a load minority, the levels in which people will create their own narratives about how people talk about cartoons is sociopathic.

This happened with Adventure Time and Korra, and the residual effects never left. With how people are protecting Samurai Jack from criticism coupled with the poor moderation with the catalog, this board is taking an irreversible hit.

>>92190735
>Prince Astor and Princess Verbina
for some reasons, I think Verbina is pretty cute, and I have no ideas why

>>92190735
Man, that episode was so fucking sweet. Why do so many people seem to hate it?

>>92190753
/co/ has always never ceased to amaze me by how awful it can be

>>92190671
>nuSJ fans
I loved the classic, love the new one

>this kills the tumblrfag

>>92190753
If the catalog were "well-moderated" in that sense we wouldn't be able to stand up to the "protection" nearly as well as now.

>>92190743
So a creator can either ONLY make beloved hits or ONLY make things that get shit on, and if the two ever cross than the creator was never good in the first place? That's black and white as fuck.

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>>92187550
>But now they're just constantly showing blood and it makes it feel so boring

Fucking what? There hasn't been blood since episode 3, the violence has been downplayed significantly since.

>>92190810
Do you hate modern cartoons?

>>92190753
>this board is taking an irreversible hit
It's nothing that new. DCEU vs MCU company shitflinging threads used to be much worse, before the tide turned way more strongly toward accepting DCEU as shit. Something similar will happen here, with /co/ establishing some kind of internal mainstream opinion about whether or not the show is good.

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>>92190810
>I'm an oldfag I swear

>>92188254
Not that anon, but your argument is still retarded

>hurrrff lets see u do better

This is not a proper way to defend anything. It's just a way to reveal to everyone that you're insecure as fuck. Also, it's an appeal to authority. People behind the scenes of a cartoon can be total idiots. Just look at how the PPG reboot turned out.

>>92186624
The first few episodes are very good...then it starts drifting into mediocre...then to questionable...

We just got episode 8 now and it was fucking dog shit. If it continues to decline at this rate the ending will be a legendary level of disappointing.

>>92190837
Theoretically no, but that's how it always pans out from what I've seen. People just don't really change that much in terms of talent, obviously excepting those who've had severe personal problems: illness, trauma, etc.

>>92190877
No one said that, anon. Just that it's pretty evident where the shit posting is coming from ;)

>>92190842
they showed a bunch when ashi fought the army and there were goblins just falling onto pikes like it was nothing.

i really wanted the visual death and visible blood to hold an impact but you can tell that after the death of the daughters of aku, they just went "meh, just go wild"

>>92190579
we're all autists here buddy

>>92190842
The soldiers in the last episode, and the lambs

>>92187154
>everything is about sex

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>>92187183
>the scene of Jack and Ashi screaming and moaning each other's names while pressed against one another and getting covered in white goop is in line with the old series

>>92187376
Come on, Anon. I'm disappointed with the way the season's been going, too, but it's not THAT bad.

>>92187469
>implying Aku isn't a symbol of the patriarchy

Wake up, sheeple.

>Get HYPE'D for the new season
>Get overtly butthurt when it doesn't meet your personal overblown hyped up expectations

You only have yourself to blame, idiots.

>>92187477
It is a little weird at times, I will admit.

>spends a whole episode plucking needles out of literally every part of Ashi's naked body
>Wh-whoa, we touched hands! That's embarrassing!

>>92187617
kek

>>92191367
OR, you know, the new season could have ACTUALLY been amazing after 13 years of waiting.

Nah, just blame the expectations.

>>92191412
he wasn't interested in her back then

>>92191469

Sure, each single second of it could have given you an orgasm. But that's all just your own expectations talking.

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>>92190753
>this board is taking an irreversible hit

Oh my sweet Summer child.

>>92190474
>season 2 was pretty bad tho
Out of curiosity, why didn't you like season 2? "Jack Learns to Jump Good" "Jack remembers the past" "Jack and the Hunters" and "Jack and the Ultra-Bots" were all episodes I really liked. Was it the farting dragon? It was the farting dragon, wasn't it.

>>92192108
I'm also curious. It's rare to hear specific criticism when it comes to Samurai Jack.

>>92191412
>naked body
I think the layers of burn and ash were thick enough that jack didn't process that she was naked. It just seemed like a weird suit. Lest we forget, the sisters were able to swim with their coating not coming off, and Ashi took all night to scrub herself clean.

>>92188533
>I keep searching for the vocal minorities, conveniently ignoring all the blind praise it gets and all the people who get shut down the very same way they are, here
Tumblr isn't some strawman you can put up when it's convenient. Just as there are "shitposters" who are supposedly being contrary, there are those people with as little as 10 notes that are generally filled with people arguing against them and not showing sipport.

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>Ruined by a character voiced by Tara Strong

>>92192139
I mean, same guy here, I don't know if this is a very popular opinion, but I didn't really like the "Jack and the creature" episode with the Totoro-like creature that keeps messing everything up. I believe that was Season 3. They weren't all winners.

>>92182873
Agreed, season 5 isn't a bad cartoon, it just isn't Samurai Jack

>>92190474
Not fair comparing all the rest with S5. They needs to wrap things up now. back then they didnt make any easy to end now with 10 episodes.

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>>92188567
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT

EPISODE 1 WAS FUCKING DOGSHIT AND IT PISSES ME OFF EXTREMELY THAT PEOPLE ARE PRAISING IT AS GOD TIER ALONGSIDE EPISODE 2 AND 3.

IT HAD LITERALLY ALL THE SHIT PACING PROBLEMS AS THE LATER EPISODES HAVE.

I FUCKING HATE THIS GODDAMN ECHOCHAMBER AROUND SAMURAI JACK CRITICS BECAUSE THEY KEEP SPOUTING THAT SAME GARBAGE OPINION AS IF IT'S FACT

>>92188039
I caught this one from a thread yesterday:
milking a dead horse

>>92186624
it's bad because it's different.

>>92188567
I've never watched an episode of SJ, but it returning after years now on AS with a cyberpunk aesthetic, apparently, it all seems gimmicky to me.

>>92187322
Gaming? Heck no! Like at least movies you could reasonably make an argument for it, but you'd have to be a nostalgia-tripping idiot to think pretty much every aspect of videogames has improved over time. Game design, graphics, music, writing, voice acting, sound effects.

>>92187645
When the contrarians despise something, it gets me hard.

>>92189214
My taste>your taste

>>92187154
no

>>92187922
>dropped the shark
What did he mean by this?

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>>92191163
>implying it isn't

>gotta get back, back to the past

does this mean samurai jack himself wants to return to the first 3 episodes?

>>92189440
wooh man a moral dilemma preventing jack from going back from the past? wow never heard of that one before, bravo genndy you've done it again

>>92182873
This is why fans should never get what they want when it comes to reviving dead shows, it will never be enough or live up to their expectations. Fuck off.

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>>92187302
>he thinks khvs on /co/ are representative of viewers at large

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Post more you're hilarious

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>>92188746
The season has been acclaimed by everyone who isn't a basement-dweller or blue-haired legbeard and there's nothing you can do about it, faggot. Cry moar.

And a friendly reminder that you're breaking the rules by posting here.

>>92189106
>>92189277

Nice maymay, have an upvote fellow redditors!

>>92189843
>Borderline personality disorder

Just stop. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>92189858
>caring this much about a cartoon

Sort your life out and get some help, what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>92193068
>not knowing about the /co/ntrarians

any time something gets popular, the same shitposters come out of the works to say how much it sucks. These faggots don't even watch the shows, they just read the threads and get their ammo from there.

>>92190189
I haven't seen many anons who asserted that the episodes have been flawless. On the other hand, the haters have been sperging out with their "0/10"s and nerd rage ever since Ashi joined Jack. Just look at the delusional fucking tards in this thread trying to concoct schemes to ruin Genndy and claiming that they've never been angrier in their lives.

Really makes you think...

>>92193925
It seems particularly bad this time around. I don't think I've ever seen such a disconnect between mainstream/critical evaluation and the opinions of the people on this board.

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>>92182873
You know the worst thing? Aku barely makes any appearances in this series when he was popping up every other episode in the originals.

>>92193820
>Appeal to majority.

>>92193820
>I'm under 18 because you disagree with me.

Fuck off back to rebbit you underage faglord.

>>92194110
When critics overwhelmingly praise something and the only ones complaining are manchildren on a Peruvian rug-weaving forum then yeah, chances are that it's a good piece of media. Sorry but your opinion is worthless, and you certainly won't be able to ruin Genndy's career. What a fucking embarrassing fantasy to even entertain. You sound like a thirteen-year-old with delusions of grandeur.

>>92194117
>faglord

You must be 18 or over to post here.

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>>92194157
>I'm under 18 because you disagree with me.

Gotta get back, back to the reddit, fagola.

>>92194157
>when appeal to majority fails
>falls back on appeal to authority.

>>92193480
Go back to grave freud you're debunk

>>92194157
Eat shit, billions of flies can't be wrong!

>>92194178
Dude, just stop. Every post you make is just embarrassing to read. You literally tried to rally up troops on an anonymous shitposting forum to somehow ruin a celebrated artist's career because he decided not to make the final critically-acclaimed season of his critically-acclaimed show meet your personal preferences. It's glaringly obvious that you're too young to post here. I'd laugh at you but I'm too embarrassed for you to do so.

>>92193303
>but you'd have to be a nostalgia-tripping idiot to think pretty much every aspect of videogames has improved over time. Game design, graphics, music, writing, voice acting, sound effects.
Feel free to kill yourself anytime

>>92194209
>>92194189

The kid was claiming that Genndy's career is ruined and trying to rally up troops to do so somehow. I pointed out that this isn't the case because the season is widely critically acclaimed outside of tumblr and /co/. As such, his career cannot be ruined by season 5 or a handful of keyboard warriors. Lern2read.

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>>92194220
Sounds like someone needs a trip to their reddit safespace, fagnuts.

>>92194237
Why do we perceive coercing tumblr to do something is something bad? Mass media is doing it all the time. They're already brainwashed, it's like refusing to grab a free piece of candy at a seminar because "it's like stealing".

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>>92194255
>Everything you've posted

Well, now I can see why you hate S5 so much. Don't worry, maybe once you finish puberty you'll have a slight chance of finding a woman with low enough standards to date you, and if you do then you can re-watch the season and figure out why everyone likes it but people like you. :)

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>>92194303
Take it to reddit, fagbutt

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>>92194237
>>92194220
''/co/ is not your personal army'' something something.