Why don't people understand that Samurai Jack is a simple,

>>92065057
He's right though.

>>92063878
That's all i hope for, when everything else is putting out depressing endings, I hope Jack and Ashi find happiness with each other

>>92065199
It would be nice to have an ending like this for once. Getting tired of all the grimdark shit.

SJ does have a record of making things seem cliche but suddenly flips it all around. Jack confronting the Lava monster for instance.

>>92065389
"fighting a powerful supernatural entity who turns out to be a cursed human" is pretty cliche, and happens alot in samurai jack

>>92063878
That's part of the reason people are speculating in the first place. No one wants to predict a cliche ending.

Samurai Jack is a shitty show. How so much of /co/ is insto such poorly animated, weak story and one dimensional characters. No one should watch such schlock, least of all adults. Maybe if youre an autistic child its alright.

>>92063878
I'm screenshotting this and I'm going to post the screenshot and laugh after the last episode.

>>92065416
This.
One of my favorite episodes Jack vs the Ultrabots, I knew what was going to happen but it didn't make it any less enjoyable.

>>92063878
>"It will be a tearjerker"
>"it was the ending we didn't know we wanted."

Word of god, take that as well you will.

>>92065505
Go back to your containment general and stay there.

That would be shit ending because then it means Jack is a failure, though.
>Hey Guys! I killed Aku, all good, right!?
>what about all the people that died and suffered for thousands of years?
>Nevermind them! Look this is Ashi!

It would the most out-of-character ending you could give Jack, ever.

>>92066298
the ending you didn't know you wanted

>>92066599
but I don't want that

>>92066298
Seriouslly. Yeah, cool, you stopped Aku, doesn't change the fact that there were basically a thousand years of darkness and war and oppression. If the show doesn't end with Jack going back in time, and popping out of the same time portal Aku launched him into, I'm going to be pretty bummed out.

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>>92063878
Why care if it's cliche? It's a good time and a lot better than most other shows right now.

>>92063878
I think that its greatest strength is the writing and directing. It's story isn't really its best asset.

>>92066766
>>92066617
I can tell you right now, there's no way they are going to show Aku getting killed twice. Looks like they are setting up the final battle to be a two parter like Jack's father.

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Ashi's power level (defeating an army by pushing them and then her mother without a problem) in the last episode made me really question the new season. she's come across as fan service now more than ever. she was ok until episode 5 where she suddenly was a new woman. there would have to be considerable time gaps between episodes to explain this
seasons 1-4 > season 5

>>92068808
That entire scene was literally done for comedic effect. While Jack was peacefully making tea, Ashi was facing an army. Although I would've been more satisfied if they cut out the army and made the entire scene Ashi facing her mother.

>>92063878
I watch it mostly for the aesthetics. The sound design is good and the art style is beautiful. Must admit the sound design in the earlier seasons was better.

>>92068808
What are you bitching about? Jack once destroyed an entire army without doing anything.

>>92069526
When?

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>>92063878
The problem is these ass holes don't like the pacing of the recent episodes and they want the show dragged out longer so that the character development is more "fleshed out" and "believable". But what they fail to understand is that you DO NOT. DO. FUCKING NOT. Let a show drag on. That's what leads to actual quality drops and likeliness of cancellation before the ending could be done.

>>92069526
Seriously, the Vietcong would've been jealous by the amount of traps Jack used

>>92068883
It was also done to remind us that Ashi is a hyperlethal fighter, which people might have forgotten after she got nuked by jack.

>>92069811
First two episodes of Season 1

>>92069811
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XIfe3aTBMbw
If the orcs that Ashi fought are on a similar level to these guys, then her even bothering to attack at all was overkill

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>>92063878

I want Jack to go back in time and kill Aku. Maybe he can pull a lava monster warrior and age super fast and die afterwards.

>>92069882
Hyperlethal you say...i might need to play Reach again

>>92069930
It's a good fucking game

>>92069895
But Jack got reasonably fucked, used many traps and the enviroment and had a sword, he also was shown slicing pretty much every robot one by one and the fight lasted like 10-20 minutes, also by the end he was clearly tired/hurt and phisically damaged.

Ashi was like launching 5 orcs with one punch and "pushing"(?) them off a cliff with her tiny body without getting scratched in a fight with such a shit pacing that lasted like 3 minutes, and then she just goes to fight with her mother like nothing happened

>>92069992
I just thought of Ashi as a SPARTAN-III...why does that arouse the shit outta me?

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>>92070002
>But Jack got reasonably fucked, used many traps and the enviroment and had a sword, he also was shown slicing pretty much every robot one by one and the fight lasted like 10-20 minutes, also by the end he was clearly tired/hurt and physically damaged.

Just for those first two episodes. After that he could solo armies fairly easily.


>Ashi was like launching 5 orcs with one punch and "pushing"(?) them off a cliff with her tiny body without getting scratched in a fight with such a shit pacing that lasted like 3 minutes, and then she just goes to fight with her mother like nothing happened

Have you forgotten what pic related was capable of doing? Where's your rant for her?

>>92070027
I know what I'm asking zone to sketch next time she streams

>>92070002
You forget she collapsed due to exhaustion afterwards.
>>92070076
You asshole, why does make me kek so hard?

>>92070061
>After that he could solo armies fairly easily
Like when?
>Have you forgotten what pic related was capable of doing?
Well duh, she's a fucking tank, she fucking up a bunch of smaller weaker enemies makes sense, Ashi beating an army of well built orcs with her lanky body figure is retarded considering she used nothing but brute strenght.

>>92070061
>Where's your rant for her?
Inb4 white guilt rant

>>92063878
After slaying Aku and realizing that there really is no way back, I want a sad and heartbroken jack to be comforted by ashie then we get an episode of comfy jack teaching his children swordsmanship and slaying evil monsters with his waifu.

>>92070130
cause its fucking retarded and terrible and I'm ashamed of myself for creating it

>>92070187
Its still funny

>>92065199
>when everything else is putting out depressing endings,
What "everything else"?

>>92070143
>Ashi is skinny so she's weak

You know Ashi took hits from a 10 ft tall woman as a toddler as well as survived a fall in to a pit of molten rocks right?

>people still complaining about ashi defeating an army
jack defeated 6 ashis and made the seventh her pet

>>92063878
the show isnt about the story its about the heavily stylized aesthetic and action scenes

>>92070177
Meme magic make this happen!

>>92070230
Well yeah, that's fucking retarded too, not really an excuse.

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>>92070076
>>92070187
Are we posting shameful creations now?

>>92070252
How do you feel about jack jumping higher than a sequoia in a straight upwards motion?

>>92070264
I was expecting a pic of OP

>>92070252
>it's retarded

hahaha

>>92070300
Are you talking about Jack Learns to Jump Good? I think it's an awful episode, correct, althought not because fo the premise, but because not only does the jumps are ever used but it has the single worst ending in the original 4 season's history.

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>>92070264
i wanna give you another (you) that shit took me back

>>92070339
I meant how do you feel about the concept of a human being learning to jump that height by strapping rocks to his limbs and carrying a boulder 4 times his size on his back.

>>92070420
It's really stupid.

Ashi defeating an army is about as unrealistic as a woman being trained as a killer assassin of any of the daughters caliber. It's an action cartoon and normal human constraints don't matter, though. I enjoyed the fight anyway.

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>>92070398
LONG AGO IN A DISTANT LAND, I, FAKKU, THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF PLEASURE, UNLEASHED UNSPEAKABLE AMOUNT OF CUM.
BUT THEN, A FOOLISH FAGGOT, WIELDING A MAGIC DILDO, STEPPED FORTH TO FUCK ME.
BEFORE THE FINAL BLOW WAS PERFORMED, I TORE OPEN HIS ANUS AND RAMMED MY DICK INTO HIS BRAIN WHERE PLEASURE IS LAW.
NOW THIS FOOL SEEKS TO GET BACK HIS VIRGINITY AND UNDO THE FAGGOTRY THAT IS FAKKU.

>>92070443
So why is it a problem that the new season of the same show does similar over the top stupid shit?

>>92063878
Nigga it was a cartoon that started on Cartoon Network

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>>92070398
>>92070347
>>92070302
Ashi attacked, not knowing her mother had LASER VAG BEAMS

>>92066298
I really don't understand why he hadn't taken the chances he got to go back in time BEFORE Aku killed everyone and kill him then. The people he would have sacrificed would never have even existed so why save them?

>>92070503
Because it's stupid? I don't get your logic here
>X is stupid
>Oh yeah? Is X stupid when done in this scenario?
>Yes
>AHA! So then why is it stupid now?

I'm glad Jack Learns to Jump good was barelly brought up later in, I really don't need an explanation as to why Jack jumps high, it's a cartoon. In the same way I don't need to know that Ashi was naked the whole time, it's fucking stupid. She getting beat up as a kid and therefore she being able to beat an army of Orcs is a really retarded explanation, even if getting beat up as a kid is supposed to count as "training" then I would expect her design to reflect that, but she's a skinny girl doing the job of a fast/high damage archetype, an assassin.

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>>92070546
fucckkkkk

>>92070639
I mean specifically why do you criticize ashi for something that she isn't the primary offender of.

>>92070718
Because if it was stupid the first time they really should stop doing it, and they did, until this new season, is it supposed to be better because it's the second time? I don't think so.

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>>92068883
>That entire scene was literally done for comedic effect

That's bullshit and you know it

>>92070639
>even if getting beat up as a kid is supposed to count as "training" then I would expect her design to reflect that

Like battle scars? I'd hate to break it to you but visible battle scars don't last long in the Samurai Jack verse.

>>92070759
It's not supposed to be better because it's the second time, but alot of people on here treat it as if it's a trillion times worse

>>92070546
>The father of the daughters got fucking bisected with a laser when she climaxed

>>92070819
I mean she being more buff instead of her noodle arms.

>>92069911
>>92069526
>>92069895

That whole fucking scene was a comedy scene, not even remotely the same as Ashi , which was suppose to be taken seriously.

I cannot believe how fucking dense some people are holy shit. It's one thing to say she can't pull this off because she's skinny (which is dumb because its genndy) but to say it's suppose to be a comedy scene is full fucking retard.

>>92070873
>you get more muscles through getting beaten up

???

>>92070862
Well it is worse, Jack learns to jump good is at least more comic-relief and episodic, Ashi being naked and getting beat up it's a plot point and part of her overarching character arc.

>>92070918
then we agree that she being able to defeat the orc army is retarded

>>92070919
I was referring to the orcs thing in comparison to jumping good.
I personally thought the ash suit was an interesting twist on the black catsuit trope, and I thought her backstory was done just fine. so i guess we'll just have to disagree with that

>>92070949
Not at all. It's not like she pushed the army and they all died instantly. She pretty much had to use the spears to kill them all. You're acting like she just pushed them and then it was over.

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>>92071007
everyone has different standards i guess

>>92071011
But she did

I remember when woke retard Matt Wilson was CONVINCED that 'Aku's Fairy Tales' was the season finale and that the story where Jack defeats Aku actually happened and he'd spend the second season getting back to the past.

It's not a fuckin' anime: Samurai Jack exists for Genndy to reference shit he likes and make cool action scenes and that kind of cartoon humor he likes. I thought that was obvious after he made an entire episode dedicated to Frank Miller's 300, years before the movie.

>>92069819
The season was already finished before it aired.

>>92071106
You know they died by falling in to a pit spears not by the push alone right? You have to be trolling at this point.

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>>92071161
no spikes here

i wonder how is she pushing all these taller, bigger orcs so easily, hmm

>>92071199
Yeah you're trolling.

>>92070868
deepest lore

>>92071199
she's using one as a battering ram, and every one of the orcs on the bottom level is carrying a spear pointed up.

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>they dropped the racist accent
wew who would have thought

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>>92071212
Yup

clearly not punching 5 orcs to death here with her tiny arms, how could anyone not think that this scene isn't literally perfect? must be trolling

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>>92071270
this is clearly not implying that for some reason orcs are literally exploding at the might of her small fists

>>92063878
>it was supposed to be bad

maybe if genndy didnt say that new samurai jack is going to get deeper, we wouldnt have that many complaints. Its still shallow and bland.

>>92071270
>clearly not punching 5 orcs to death
>to death

can you prove it they died by the punch?

>>92071303
That scene could also imply that she cut of the orcs head with a weapon off screen. There were a lot of those guys.

This is true,the reason samurai jack is so good is because of the glorious execution.Its like kubo,a common structure played with no major twists,but its just done too well

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>>92071338
I mean I don't see her punching them again, and the next scene the whole army is all dead

She either fought for days (which we know it's not true) or we are lead to believe she beat them all up in a couple of hours at max.

>>92070908
Who cares if it's a comedy scene?
It's the same fucking show with the same fucking consistency (i.e. NONEXISTANT).

>>92071388
>we are lead to believe she beat them all up in a couple of hours at max.

Well yeah, she kinda did.

>>92063878
the same reason people like AC/DC or enjoy a good burger.

Yeah it's not reinventing the wheel but it's doing what it knows and it does it well. Not everything needs to be cutting edge with 50 plot twist.

Plus the show looks great and the art style is very distinctive. Combine that with the good balance between action, comedy, and atmosphere/landscapes and thats why people like the show

>>92071446
Well yeah that's retarded.

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>>92071270
>>92071303

>If this was classic Jack, we would've gotten half the episode of Jack setting up traps in the environment setting the tone for the rest of the episode
>Jack draws the army by the mountain taken them out my large boulders slowly fighting off the horde in the narrow pass while moving slowly to the top
>A large amount left at the top of the mountain, Jack would've finished them covered in blood and scars, standing victorious

BUT

>People expected Ashi to do the same thing, setting up advantages taking out the horde giving time for jack to get his sword
>Ashi is slowly overwhelmed and by the end JAck gets his sword and jumps into the fray, back to back ashi and Jack finish off the rest of the army

>instead we got this

>>92071460
No. She beat them by using their weapons against them. Now are you going to say that someone skilled in weaponry shouldn't know how to use weapons?

>>92071471
Yeah dude, check out this prep time from jack!>>92069911

>>92071520
They killed themselves, what's your point retard

>>92071505
Where are you getting this from? She mostly breaks the lances and only once used them at her advantage by throwing the tip to a bunch of orcs, the rest is all pic related.

>>92071520
But Jack has always been great in 1v1 encounters, and if you mean the robo army you can clearly tell that they are all dying by each other's explosions.

>>92071584
Read the comment in the post I linked

>>92071595
I like how you're not admitting to the fact that all died by the spears.

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>>92071595
>>92071614
Forgot pic showing Ashi killing an orc with an spear

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>>92071520
>references an episode he never watched
>Posts an scene that was purely played off as comedy to show that Aku needed to take care of things himself

So...this..is..the power..of..autism

>>92071595
>She only used them once

For that one scene. You don't know if she continued to use them.

>>92071667
And neither do you, you're going on baseless assumptions

>>92071652
see
>>92071417

>>92071634
Punching someone hard in the face can get your knuckles pretty dirty. What's the problem?

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>>92071667
If we are really playing this retarded game then

1.- explain me why is she covered in blood if she using a spear
2.- I don't see no mutherfucking spear
3.- is that blood on her fist? I wonder how did that happen

>>92071704
That's kinda the point I was trying to make. Only for your side.

>>92071720
>1.- explain me why is she covered in blood if she using a spear
Spears are sharp and blood was kinda getting all over the place when she was using them
>2.- I don't see no mutherfucking spear
Well they're all dead now. Why would she need it after they all died?
>3.- is that blood on her fist? I wonder how did that happen
>>92071708

>>92071720
Why are you screen capping these so small?

>>92071706
>>92071417
So I guess, scenes become conveniently "comedy" and "inconsistent" when you have no argument.

Jack's father vs Aku? Comedy
Jack vs beetle drone Army? Comedy
Ashi vs Orc army? Comedy
Jack does fuck all in a comdey scene? Not-Comedy

>>92071856
Well Jacks father held off multiple Akus at once and at the most got an arrow in his hair.

>>92071789
So she was punching people to death, huh
Also I don't think you know how spears work, they are pretty long, you wouldn't get splashed with blood
>they are all dead now
Well where's the spear used for the killing?

>>92063878
Some people desperately wanted SJ Season 5 to be the epitome of western animation, their disappointment is their own fault.

>>92071946
>So she was punching people to death, huh

Not once did I say they were punched to death. Were they blown away by her punches? Yea., But did they die from the punches. No.

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>>92071931
>Just an arrow in his hair

That's it. I'm done.
I'm done arguing with you stupid retards.
All hope is lost.

Well done making me screenshot the actual episode.
You stupid idiot.

>>92072011
Later fag.

>>92071856
What? that's not at all what I was saying.
I'm saying that Samurai jack as a series has never had realistic or consistent physics, and to dismiss comparison of two scenes because one is "comedic" is just stubborn.
Jack's father vs aku- Not grounded in reality
Jack vs beetles- Not grounded In reality
Ashi vs orc army- Not grounded in reality
Jack does fuck all in a comedy scene-Not grounded in reality.
Nothing about the show has ever been realistic, and to bitch about Ashi all of a sudden for it is completely unwarranted

>>92071946
>So she was punching people to death, huh
And what if she was? She clearly has some level of super strength, sorry if you need it spelled out for you.

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>>92072059
>Never had a real argument
>Goes from Jack did too
>It's just a comedy scene
>Now, It's "not grounded in reality" It's just a cartoon

It's time to stop posting, take a breathe and come back when come up with a an actual argument instead of jumping around all over the place.

>>92071946
Who the fuck cares if she was punching people to death. This is the same show where a character literally explains away any stupide shit he does with "CELTIC MAGIC". this is the same SEASON where a robot uses scatting to magically control a scimitar.

>>92072011
>expecting a pleb defending season 5 to have watched the original let alone understanding what made it good

It's our fault for arguing with these retards

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Press S in for the new season!

>>92072187
>goes from jack did too
I did in fact say that Jack has done equally ridiculous things as ashi, and got "it was a comedy scene" as a response multiple times.
>it's just a comedy scene
I never used "it's a comedy scene" as an argument, in fact I've been mainly arguing against using it as a point.
>Grounded in reality
I did indeed say that the cartoon show about a samurai sent to the future by a space demon was not grounded in reality.

none of those points are mutually exclusive or contradict each other.

>>92072383
There's literally no point in bringing up the fact it's a cartoon and Jack has never done anything as ridiculous as defeating an entire army "bare-handed" unscathed in a scene that was suppose to be taken seriously.

You idiots claim he has, but you can't post any proof because there isn't any and you haven't seen the original show.

>>92072187
You the fag who said he was gonna leave the thread?

>>92072466
>Jack has never done anything as ridiculous as defeating an entire army "bare-handed" unscathed in a scene that was suppose to be taken seriously.

That's only because damaged clothing looks cooler. If the animator wanted they could have solo an army without any cuts or bruises at all.

>>92072534
>If the animator wanted Jack could be unscratched so he totally could do it

I can't believe you are pulling this argument, I literally cannot believe it. Jesus Christ, /co/, holy shit.

>>92072466
Just because a scene doesn't have a serious tone doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Either all scenes in samurai jack are valid, or none of them are, you don't get to pick and choose from them.

>>92072582
Is there an argument for why an animator or scene director wouldn't want Jack unscratched?

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>>92072607
>Either all scenes in samurai jack are valid, or none of them are, you don't get to pick and choose from them.
This is how you tell how someone didn't watch the original series. The original series didn't work this way, why should it work that way because "you" say so?
Are you that dense to think that every single scene that had combat in it was suppose to be taken either SERIOUS or COMEDY? Holy fuck you HAVE to be trolling at this point.

>If the animator wanted they could have solo an army without any cuts or bruises at all.


....

>>92072790
>>If the animator wanted they could have solo an army without any cuts or bruises at all.

yah

>>92072790
I didn't say the animator line, don't blame that shit on me, and don't blame me for segregating fight scenes into "serious or comedy", I'm not the one who said shit like "in a scene that was suppose to be taken seriously.">>92072466

>The original series didn't work this way
Who are you to say it didn't? Before season 5 I might have agreed with you, but in episode 6, the show put all of the filler/monster of the week/episodic plots into a canon.

>>92070562
Jack is as absolutely good as aku is evil. He cannot knowingly take an action that leads to the death of innocents. Or at least he couldn't, beard Jack might have been able to.

>>92073047
>Who are you to say it didn't?
So you admit you didn't watch the original series? Glad we got that out of the way, it makes alot of sense now considering you would ask such an idiotic question without being familiar with Genndy's work.

>but in episode 6, the show put all of the filler/monster of the week/episodic plots into a canon.

What the fuck does this even mean?

>>92073303
I did watch the original show, as a kid and before the new season started. But if you're just going to ignore everything I've been saying, I'm not gonna humor you.

>>92070810
Just because you're too autistic to get it doesn't mean it's not a joke.

>>92071720
Fuck Ashi, learn to use a tampon girl.

>>92070228
bumping for answers

>>92063878
Until recently the show was really more about the journey and the places and people he meets along the way, but since it's being warped up they had to serialize it.

>>92063878
Cliche does not mean it's 'bad.'

>>92070908
>which was suppose to be taken seriously.

was it?

i thought the scene was hilarious especially when contrasted with the whole peacefull tea ceremony and with ashi's ugly battle faces.

>>92063878
I would really be pissed off if a series dedicated entirely to talking about Jack going back to the past 90% of the time, and showing the tortured souls of the people in the past literally all the time, ends with him not going back to the past at all instead.

>>92066964
Or, OR, and try to follow me here, its not a single entire two episode fight against Aku, but TWO seperate Aku fights, first against the future one, and then against the past one? Really jumbles your grumbles doesn't it?

>>92070810
No anon it was pretty obviously the point of the scene.

It's debatable if doing it seriously would've been better, but as it was it was clearly comedic.

>>92070908
>That whole fucking scene was a comedy scene, not even remotely the same as Ashi , which was suppose to be taken seriously.

Ashi's was comedic as well, though.

>>92066104
i'm guessing it's Aku will be defeated but at the cost of Jack's life. Which I'd totally be fine with because I'm kind of rooting for both Jack and Aku. Obviously they can't both win though so I'd be fine if they both lost in a way.

No its complex and deep reeeeeee

>>92069882
The army consisted of hacks hired by mother as a distraction

>>92070002
She was pushing them with the leader's body down a cliff you nigger

>>92070339
>not only does the jumps are ever used
Enter the typical brainless murican consumerist pig who's unable to tell what's happening on the screen unless the story goes out of its way to mention it

>>92071471
Becaue that's what everybody here wanted right? To focus half the episode with Ashi setting traps. Because that's what everybody here would want right? More Ashi screentime.

>>92080215
you sound assdevastated