You know what really bugged me about Transformers then and now?...For

>>92028282
This applies to pretty much all the Reagan-era glorified toy commercial shows. They needed action, but they couldn't kill off characters who could be merchandised.

>>92028282
then the bay movies happen and bots die before they even get an introductory scene.

Can't really have it both ways

>>92028491
You know, I watched some of the Bay movies before I became a Transformers fan and I thought they had a lot of issues. but they were fine. Then I became a fan, went through them again, and apart from a lot of moments in the first movie, they totally butchered so many characters and inserted so many unnecessary storylines and did the ultimate evil...they didn't use a vocoder or any similar device for Soundwave.

File: soundwave_vs__blaster.jpg (249KB, 900x670px) Image search: [Google]

249KB, 900x670px

>>92028282
Needed more DJ-Battles

That is why horrific weapons such as glass gas and various superpowers developed. To beat the natural defences they have.

>>92028561
personally i thought transformers was too light on the war thing and wanted it to be more like gundam back then (characters dying outside of special episodes).

then the first bay movie came out and realized how bad that was for character establishment (bonecrusher almost immediately dying for example).

Remember that time Soundwave and Blaster had a duel to the death?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g63Q5ivVN8

>>92029649
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g63Q5ivVN
I do remember...But according to youtube is telling me, it doesn't exist...
My God...Have I been hallucinating?

>>92029681
Maybe you're thinking of that OTHER time they had a duel to the dead and nobody died.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7NnI4OdLRQ

>>92028491
Bitch please, the 80s animated movie was doing this decades before bay got his hands on the franchise.

>>92029716
Man. The lack of any impact sound or environmental impact for those first few sound-waves just makes it look like they're just falling over dramatically.

>>92029649
Jeez man, that Rodimus is a kind of idiot. How many autobots died triying to save him?

>>92030041
It's a shame how limp-dick that final fight is. I really like Auto-bop as a stand alone episode.

File: maxresdefault-2.jpg (58KB, 818x460px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 818x460px

>>92028282


i will never see a most bad ass and more powerful animated vercion of this

i fucking drop you for life hasbro

File: Dead autobots.webm (3MB, 744x400px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 744x400px

>>92028282
The Transformer's energy crisis was a hell of a thing.

>>92030717


this isn't the end of your child hood...

is the end of a good and epic transformers animated adventure

>>92030717
Iron birds of fortune
Adrift above the skies
Cloudy revelations
Unseen by naked eyes
Flying tools of torment
Will penetrate the sphere
Erupt the rock of ages
Bringing final fear
Instruments of destruction
Tools of foul play
It's a vile interruption
Existence drifts away

>>92029649


remember watching this back in mexico in 1995

that episode suck ass so much,it was trying to hard to emulate the feeling of the movie,but fails horribly

seriously...i was so much disapointed about hasbro and toei for creating so much nonsense in the quality and the scrip of this production

>>92031165
>Tools of foul play
>It's a vile interruption

I used to think this was the lyrics too

Apparently, it's actually
"Tools of power plays
It's a violent eruption"

File: Crouch-Crying-Jordan.jpg (195KB, 901x1200px) Image search: [Google]

195KB, 901x1200px

>>92029649
rip Soundwave, best dad

File: murderboy.gif (2MB, 636x446px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 636x446px

>>92028282
Here, have a bot who can get shit done.

>>92031262
>hasbro
It's Takara, dummy.

File: 1490790194320.png (224KB, 295x667px) Image search: [Google]

224KB, 295x667px

>>92030717
Brawn, Prowl, Ratchet and Ironhide getting deadass murdered was insane. Especially in the downright goofy way it was done, with Megatron just doing his stupid backflip-turn-into-a-gun shit.

>>92028642
>then the first bay movie came out and realized how bad that was for character establishment (bonecrusher almost immediately dying for example).
As much as Bonecrusher was just a big dumb hate machine, at least that scene re-established why the Decepticons were the bad guys. That dude crashed through a BUS. He had to be put down, and Optimus did so efficiently, without endangering anymore humans or dropping a sadistic one-liner.

In the sequels, bigger budgets + Bay's total lack of self-awareness led to Autobots causing just as much property damage as Decepticons, especially in the gratuitous chase scenes, and Optimus became way more psychotic and disturbing than his enemies.