ITT: Superhero costumes that would no longer be acceptable because

>>91974041
This one is clearly the winner.

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>>91974041

Reminder that she got what she deserved.

>>91974084

if only she'd worn some armor

>>91974408
How gay was the artist?

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>>91974041

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>>91974216
Pretty much anything from Grell's Legion would never fly today.

>>91974478

Anything by Grell, period.

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>>91974455
I think you might be projecting.

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>>91974408

>The Funnies
>not actually funny

what did the golden age mean by this

>>91974470
Vampirella always targeted a certain audience, this wouldn't be a problem if it was released today.

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>>91974516
Too lewd for me.

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>>91974470
rip

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>>91974571
I just went through the issue to see if there was at least one humor strip.
I'm still not sure if there was one or not. Closest I could find was Pie Gobb and except for the style it might have just been a sports manga.

>>91974696

I'm utterly horrified by this art.

The golden age was a terrifying time.

>>91974746
Some of the golden age is meant to be innocent, and comes across as nightmare fuel today.

>>91974775

Good lord yes.

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>>91974746
Most of the decent artists were drafted.
Kirby was in Europe drawing maps.

I can only imagine what they looked like....

>>91974589
watch her new comics.

>>91974864

Yeah, they only had a sad remnant of quality left by 1942

>>91974864
why's it shifted off center

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>>91974618
>Jon Sable Freelance

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Night Girl'sVampirella costume.

>>91974084
Infinite Crisis was rough

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>>91974041

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>>91974041

Looking through this thread, does anyone think any of these costumes are actually good? Look at this >>91975432
That's not a costume, that's lingerie. Just because it has sex appeal doesn't mean its good design.

>>91974084
Nuttin personal kid

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>>91975535
Na, these costumes are all pretty terrible. Not to say that revealing can't be good. I like Starfire's 80's design.

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Fatality still had the same costume but then it was revealed she was just a shape shifting sex freak so idk.

My guess is we're within a decade or less of seeing this return.
Today we have Zero compelling new characters, no Tna, shit writing all around, downplay of the importance of the art.
It is like money lying on the ground waiting for someone to take it.

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>>91974041

There's nothing wrong with any of these.

>>91975734
most of them are hideous. vampirella still looks cool though

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>>91975600
To be fair that template was really ugly. The mobile game has a good version though.

>>91975761

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>>91974435
>>91974041

are all good.

>>91974589
Not according to Dynamite...

>>91975855

>covering the flesh parts up

JFC america

>Society's self-proclaimed moral guardians are bigger prudes than those of the 1940s
What the hell happened?

>>91975872
They were just holes for the sake of holes. No design function. It looked weird rather than stylized. Look at Saturn Girl's for a good pink uniform that showed skin >>91974216

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>>91975855
In the Image I posted it looks like her bush is glowing. I kinda like it but then her new Outfit is also okay.

The whole concept of Star Sapphires is odd. Why do they kill you after they fuck you?

>>91974408
>implying male sexualisation as an issue is not laughed upon

>>91975959
You're actually proving the point. It wouldn't be acceptable today, but it's for a different reasoning than the female lewd costumes ("looks silly" vs "looks slutty").

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>>91975925
Ill post the issue explaining it Anon.

>>91975925
What didn't make sense is that they stayed focus on romantic love with only like two examples of other love (that one girl whose sister I think died and WW loving everyone).

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>>91976003
Yeah it pissed me off that Carol a vet Star Sapphire thought she can only go Sapphire if she wanted to fuck Hal, fuck the whole thing with Relic was a mistake.

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>>91975908

>>91976057
Whoops, didn't mean to quote anybody

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Forgot the retcon of Deborah but she got
slaughtered by the Spectre

>>91976057
I mean Sue is a Whore.

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>>91975856
thanks man

>>91976057
There is no costume with an ab window that wouldn't be significantly more aesthetic as just a top and bottom set/bikini.

>>91975908

This artist is such a huge turnoff

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>>91975925
So Anon the reason they fuck the GL of the sector is so noone can stop them from putting the planet in suspended animation so they wont fight anymore.

Wont post the rest of the issue.

>>91976129
yeah, holy shit they're bad

>>91976057

Why did she wear this

>>91976174
Midlife crisis

>>91975432
Theres always at least one woman wearing this at a sex party.

>>91976114

My dick could not handle Sue in an actual bikini costume, anon

>>91976343
Maybe that's why they made it look so ugly. She would be distractingly hot if it was actually properly designed but showed the same amount of skin.

To be quite honest, I don't like cheesecake in comics. Maybe I'm a prude, but when I'm reading comics and the female characters are scantily clad and wearing skin tight clothing or shoving gratuitous amounts of cleavage, it makes me feel kind of creepy. It's probably why comic fans have the "creep" stereotype in the first place.

>>91975897
>good

>>91976428
It depends to me, if they're a super hero then Im not a fan but if they're criminals like Catwoman Im okay with it. Inb4 "I BET YOU DRESS LIKE A WHORE"

>>91976428
Cheesecake to me is less about design and more about how the artist draws it. Like when they make WW's bottoms a thong instead of a normal leotard bottom, that is not the fault of the costume.

>>91976443
well you just have bad taste tbqh

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What was even weirder was that they started drawing and coloring Sue different. She became muscular with a defined six-pack and got a deep tan to her skin.

They can wear whatever they want.

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The actress for her in the movie specifically called this out as being slutty and sexist.

>>91976934
The boob shields are too much, but the costume as a whole is fine. I would bet she hadn't even seen a picture of it when she saw it though. Just kind of the meme around normies that all comic costumes are over the top when it comes to women.

>>91974571
Yeah, we're so much better today with our entirely serious COMIC books

>>91976990

Yeah. It's generic actor static that could be about any character in any movie really.

>Valkyrie is blonde in the comics — that must have made this even cooler.
>Yeah, it’s really great. We have so many conversations particularly now about representation in film. I think the unfortunate thing about a lot of these fantasy movies is when they’re based on source material a lot of these comics were written in a time when that wasn’t a part of the conversation as far as having representation. Not just having characters that reflect the world we live in but how we represent the characters. If we were also dedicated to the source material, Valkyrie would potentially be a female Thor but she’s fighting in basically a bathing suit, which is also absurd. So we had a conversation of, what is a strong look? Like, she should probably be in pants. That probably makes more sense for the kind of work she’s doing. And we had conversations about her sort of feeling like a tomboy and having a certain masculinity about her while still being very much a woman.

>It’s such an exciting time to be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, like you look at a cast like Black Panther. I think it’s really important for little boys and little girls to go to these movies and see themselves reflected on screen. I’m really excited about this generation of young women that can look at a screen and see some brown people in space. I’m happy to join Idris Elba so he doesn’t have to be the only one. He’s lonely!

>>91976934
>The actress for her in the movie specifically called this out as being slutty and sexist.

Well fuck her then.

>>91977293
Yeah it's not really worth getting upset about. They're just ignorant.

>>91977359

yeah, I don't care. DESU the movie version of Valkyrie sounds and looks like they could have named her anything at all and it wouldn't have made a difference. She has nothing at all in common with the comic book Brunnhilde/Val and the only reason they named her Brunnhilde is to get some weak "Oh look this is totally a comics character", sort of like the random characters named Bereet and Carina in GOTG.

>>91976452
I think it's OK if the sex thing is a part of their character, like Catwoman who is all about seduction and manipulation, but every female hero doesn't need to have that. i was reading a Leia comic the other day and the sexualization for her (in her Empire outfit, not Slave Leia) stood out to me

>>91977662
>i was reading a Leia comic the other day and the sexualization for her (in her Empire outfit, not Slave Leia)
It was Dodson, wasn't it?

>>91977662
For some reason there are people who claim that the costumes are to blame for lewd drawings when in reality anything can be sexualized. This kind of situation is proof that you have to blame the artists rather than the designs.

>>91974435
This one was one of my first faps.

>>91977662
Yeah, you're right if its in their character then it's all good. Like Soranik it doesnt make sense why shes showing so much cleavage, she's supposed to be a smart doctor minus the trashy back tattoo. compared to like Black Cat who's supposed to be Sex in a shape of a person.

>>91976934
It's like she confused it with the Ultimates bikini.

Expect MCU synergy (Tacticool)

>>91978028
I feel like cleavage itself isn't too much, but it should be drawn less like the boobs are the focus. Gleason drew Sora well.

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>>91974041
Her costume is perfect.

>>91978155
It depends on who's drawing her sometimes the breasts are too overly exposed. I like her new outfit but then I like skin tight costumes.

>>91976990
I think the shield boobs are the stereotypical Valkyrie look, even Courage the cowardly dog Valkyrie episode had them. Nothings wrong with the costume tho and the actress complaining how ridiculous the comic costume look is retarded.

>>91974349
That costume was mocked the second it was made.

>>91974041
None of these would be acceptable back then either. Reason why they made Wonder Girl.

>>91976428
>It's probably why comic fans have the "creep" stereotype in the first place.
No its because comic fans are traditionally considered nerds & nerds can't get laid in societies eyes traditionally.

I'm a guy, and if I had the right power set and build, I would fly around in nothing but a cape.

The mark of my divinity shall scar thy DNA.

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>>91979836
I wish I had the right body to try out that whole sleeves with no shirt look.
It's a strong look.

>>91978119

We've seen her costume already anon. It's a generic leather suit with boots.

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>>91977293
>what is a strong look? Like, she should probably be in pants.
Tell that to Lynn Collin's Dejah Thoris who was well praised as a strong female when John Carter came out you stupid bitch.

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>>91979836
Doctor Manhattan was the most realistic superhero costume-wise.

>>91980085

It was funny how they wanted to sell Dejah as an early feminist icon in the director interviews for that movie, even though the actual literary Dejah was almost nothing more than a damsel and babymomma for John. But it's so ingrained after decades of new takes on John Carter stories that Dejah is more of an active female protagonist, and honestly I'm cool with that. Even the 1970's Marvel spin-off comic on Barsoom had Dejah running around and swordfighting.

Either way, collins was good in that movie and had just the right level of costuming. She doesn't need to be nude like in the ERB stories to be sexy, nor does she need to be wearing some full-body military jumpsuit.

>>91980252
Collins actually demanded a more revealing outfit then what was originally proposed by Disney because she knew & cared for the source material.

>>91980370

Yep, she was totally cool with it, and I think the movie had an even amount of Barsoomian fanservice for men and women. So yeah, that movie could have gone so much worse.

>>91976129
Daniel Acuna is godlike. What are you on?

>>91979836
Gill, you wore a greek god diaper in battle.

>>91980523
Well that's the thing about Barsoom innit? Everybody tends to be the same amount of naked.

>>91980085
>WB didn't get this chick to play WW
Worst timeline.

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>>91980085
>>91980252
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>>91980713
https://www.xvideos.com/video4963991/lynn_collins_hot_doggy_in_true_blood

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Anything from early 90s Marvel

>>91974408
Is this a Jojo reference?

>>91981964
Imagine how perfect that name would be if she were a transgender

>>91982287
With a jaw like that, who says she's not?

>>91979994
EXACTLY
>>91978119

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can't make em like this anymore

>>91974696
>You gotta chop the tree down.

I chuckled.

>>91975908
Forget the costume, that face is terrifying!

>>91980914
nice

>>91977935
Yeah

It's crazy how sexually repressed people are nowadays, makes no sense.

It used to be the conservatives that wanted women to cover up, now feminists want women to cover up.

>>91986515
>now feminists want women to cover up
no they don't

>>91986533
Just look up the "male-gaze", and sex-negative feminism. Or "objectification of women in comics"

>>91986618
don't for get how they go REEEE over Frank Cho's art.

>>91975314
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>>91986701
Yeah, feminism both simultaneously want women to cover up because they are "objectifying themselves", and liberate them so that they don't have to cover up.

It's wonderfully ironic.

If both men and women are objectified in comics, then there isn't an issue. Which is what happens in comics.

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>>91978281
I swear I remember reading somewhere that Sora was supposed to be more flat-chested than the regular lantern (you know, by comic standards), but even looking at her first appearance, that was not the case.

I'm trying to think of other examples of characters who are intentionally supposed to be flat chested, and failing to really get any examples. Early Raven was, but that changed when artists changed. The only consistent person I can think of right now in an ongoing book is Rose Wilson

>>91986799
>If both men and women are objectified in comics, then there isn't an issue.
only if you ignore the context of how the genders are treated in real life

>>91986984
How does context in real life matter in a fictional world?

What do you even mean?

>>91975432
>>91975449

. . . Who are these?

>>91988863
One is Night, who has a partner called Day
The other is TA, who is some universes not-Wasp

>>91989009
Oh, god, those were seriously their names?

I thought they were short for something.

Wow.

>>91975855
Found the feminist

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>>91989196
It's a magical world

>>91983256
Marvel is sitting on the rights.

I just wish this comic didn't suck so much. Everyone who knew about it seemed to like the premise.

>>91987013
Because irl context is the way we
understand and relate to fiction. You can't look at a story in a fucking vaccuum and not understand the context in which it's written. Even the most utterly insane fantasy worlds are seen that way only by contrasting their content to the real life context they were written in.

>>91980370
>Collins actually demanded a more revealing outfit
I love this woman.

>>91989278
>caring about aesthetics makes you feminist now

alas

>>91976428
Honestly that just makes me think you have issues with sexuality. If you just didn't like it that would be one thing, but to feel creeped out by casual titillation is strange.

>>91974041
>ITT: Superhero costumes that would no longer be acceptable because of how sexualized they are.

Really?

>>91989789
what is this

>>91974696

Goddamn, Roy was phoning-in the art here.

>>91974927

What part of "Great Disaster" is opaque to you?

>>91989681
So, women can't be as objectified as men because of IRL context which is relevant because???

>You can't look at a story in a fucking vaccuum and understand the context in which it's written.

Why does IRL context matter in fiction? It can add things layers, it can detract layers, but IRL context is not a critical fiction of fiction.

You can pick up Watchmen without knowing what's it written by, why it's written, when it's written. All the IRL contexts of the story. And still find meaning in it, you can judge the book and story and the people in it, in the vaccuum of the story.

In comics, women should be as objectified as their male counterpart, IRL context does not matter, and should not matter.

>>91974423
He was raised by condors. That's why he flies.

>>91991601
Spider-Man homage character from the last Squadron Supreme series that span out of JMS's Supreme Power run.

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>>91974408
Stupid sexy Phantasmo

>>91994229
Wow. I miss the 90's

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>>91974696
Wash is stone cold.