How's Your Webcomic? #361: Life Support Edition

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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV

>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#


>DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ0lck7oo4A

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/
Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

I think we can at least keep these going weekends

http://kiwidayn.comicgenesis.com
just gonna link because this one has boobies

>Make new tumblr account for comic
>Try to post trailer
>Doesn't show up in tags
>Discover you apparently need to do some indeterminate amount of waiting or activity before people can see your posts
Seriously there is not a single redeeming thing about this fucking website. Even in my test posts .gifs don't play on the blog and it's kind of a gif centric comic.

>>91932826
truly it's as shitty as it is popular

Anyone watch/play anything new that you can tell is already influencing their work?

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posted my batman comic in another thread earlier in the week. got some good feedback and so I went in an gave it another try.

did page 1-3 over the past day and a half. pic related is 1.

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>>91933714
and page two.

stop me if it sucks so bad in muh cooldown time before page three.

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>>91933745
and three.

>>91933780
bearing*

your writing is pretty good. even your direction. i'm sure I don't need to tell you the art isn't living up to that yet, but i'm sure you're trying

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Trying to rework/redesign this character I made awhile back.

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>>91934255
She was originally meant to be a sorta Cranky Kong type, really irritable and bitter. But I really like those softer designs on the right side, so thinking I wanna take it more in that direction.

Other idea was having her be a sort of insane crazy cat (or in this case, frog) woman. Crazy and voodoo magic are a dangerous mix.

>>91934255
a cliche, and one i adore. fits in nicely with urchin as well. wait is she being called nancy again?
>awhile back
oh i see. that's actually a while. just correcting in case that come up in the comic.
i particularly like that she just enjoys hanging out with the lady
>>91934302
i think the center is my favorite. she ought to look kinda weak after all, like magic's all she's got
>Frog woman
man that reminds me of another comic that was in the works here a long time ago.. frog-lady witch with a kinked hat.. shit was cool. definitely inspired me.

>>91934193
Oh absolutely I know the art needs work. My writing too but I have to basically write what I can draw at this point. I'd love to be able to flex my writing and plotting.

I do these little things really to practice my "art" in a more practical way than just continuously drawing things and putting them in a folder I'll eventually throw away after looking at with disgust down the road. I'd prefer to write 100 comics a month but I can't afford an artist for one at the moment.

Pencils, however, are affordable.

>>91934391
Nah, hahaa, that top one was made YEARS ago, back when she was still Nancy. I think, like 2010 or something?

Yeah, I wonder if I could use that right design for something else cause I really like it, but it just doesnt seem to fit what I want for the character.

>>91934407
absolutely, practice is always a good idea
>>91934455
the right one looks to me like some kind of apothecary lady except instead of the expected potions, she's into perfumes.. but they're the same kinda potion material, just aerated. so poor Urch has to choke and smell weird if she's gonna use em

>>91934631
or just pops off the thing on top and drinks them probably

>>91932874
I just installed the webcomic theme (fucking with the theme is apparently one of the ways to prove you're actually worthy of being heard), is that what's not allowing the gifs to play? I checked the image locations and it actually uses different image paths, so is there any way to make them animated on-blog like they are on the dashboard? Something on my settings, some way to upload the gifs?

>>91934707
doesnt tumblr just fuck with all formats of images you use

>>91934707
You should ask the guy that did this http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/ he got gifs to work, I know that. and his overall site is decent except the banners at top and bottom have transparent parts you still cant click through

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I am going to do my initial 23 pg upload in a couple weeks. I am just scripting the page and working on my buffer now.
I have 9.7k followers now on social media. I'll break 10k this weekend. That part does not seem real. I scrolled through the names back when it hit 3k. It's like trying to understand geological timescales.
Anyway, I'll probably storytime here when I launch.

>>91935021
Congrats anon! I'll be looking forward to that storytime. What kind of update schedule are you gonna do once it's released?

>>91935021
whoa, social media followers and you havent even started the comic uploading proper?

>>91935129
>Update schedule
One page twice a week. Enough to do a 25 pg POD book every few months.
Thanks for the interest.

>>91935171
I've put up a couple 3page previews, and lots of sketches. It started to ramp up after the first preview.
It makes me really nervous.

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There are so many successful webcomic artists earning thousands from patreon/merch sales/ads. And their comics are quite often...overrated.

But whatever, I just wanna be one of them. I wanna create my own shitty webcomic and I want to feed it to my readers twice a week, with little effort. This is my goal.

If I could eventually earn even €700 a month, that would be great.

The problem is getting there. It's gonna be hard. But I have no choice. Either work for myself or work for others.

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Still working on video assets. Put together a simple "End slate" for videos as practice to get a solid idea of what the video quality will look like when processed and uploaded to youtube. So far so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa6xsdSH6Cc

>>91935535
can't fault you, you've identified what you want to be like and done a perfect facsimile of it. you'll make lots of money on this.

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>>91934255
>>91934302
Maybe the potions are alcohol mix with hallucinogens?
>>91935700
Yeah, I love the visuals of the tube. You made em yourself didn't know you were proficient with 3d modeling good on you!

>I might decide to make little doodles of the characters and environment and incorporate it into the comic as little beginning and ending to each issue.

Do you guys plan to do covers and stuff like that? I know Dupe doing video ends, but what about the rest?

>even though this cover isn't finish i should really try to post more finished products soon.

I'm sure I'll make something good enough to get a follow on Twitter.

What am I saying, I suck.

>>91935955
Nah, sorry to disappoint. The 3D is from some old 90s tech demos. In the final version I'll have a little title at the top saying the specific video. They're pretty obscure and match the general "90s sci-fi" atmosphere I'm going with. They're underrated and chill so I figured it'd be a nice thing to showcase and end videos with.

>>91935955
>Do you guys plan to do covers and stuff like that?

I'm planning to do covers for every chapter I do. I make my comic with pretty simple cel-shaded coloring but I really enjoy painting so I use covers as a way to make some nicely rendered promotional illustrations for my comic

>>91935955
woo nice to see you pips. you should really be on the discord
i wish I had set the precedent of doing covers, it'd be weird to start now though

>>91935021
Are you the guy on /ic/? Looks awesome, man.

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Alright I've had a story planned out for months and I decided I wanna make a comic out of it, but I want it to start out as good as it can be assuming I get the first chapter out by summer.

Mostly I'm looking for panelling/art feedback, the lore is dense so I need to make sure my drawings read well.

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>>91936479

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>>91936504
A couple character design sketches

>>91936479
>Panelling

Well first off, the default reading flow is left to right, up to down. Generally you want your panels in horizontal staggered rows rather than vertical columns, right now this is hard to figure out the reading direction.

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Saffron and Sage, page 25, in which we learn about religion.

>>91936479
>>91936504
>>91936571
without letters there's no way to tell what's happening here. Which is probably a bad sign. Unless the story needs it to jump around.

If you were to see this play out it would be a montage of shots instead of a scene.

I wouldn't point that out but you said you need the drawings to read well. And I can't read anything from them as planned.

there's a girl, a pa system, a hallway, a couch, a girl stretching, now she's sitting, now she's up, are those leggings, does she need to pee?

>>91936755
>Playing Wii Sports with Picard
Kek

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>>91936698
As much as i suck at this stuff, use this as a shitty example.

>>91936571
skiing whilst wielding a giant metal ice cream bar is dangerous, anon

>>91936776
Mostly the sequence of events is all I need to know people understand. There is absolutely minimal dialogue in the start since I want to convey as much as I can through visuals. Opening scenes will jump around a lot cause there's a lot going on to start off with and I despise expositional text box walls.

>>91936829
Thanks, I'll try splitting the first page in half and seeing if it reads better.

>>91936755
best religion ever

>>91936338
>are you the guy on /ic/?
No. Nothing against /ic/ but I haven't been there in ages.

Anyone have an suggestions for organizing a Story plot?

I have a bunch of characters , that fit in my world with their own stories, with an overarching plot but I'm not sure what to do next.
Er or better yet, I'm not sure how I should go about this, I could go with an episodic structure, which would be easier I think.

What do you guys think?

>>91937033
write down something you might write if you were making episode summaries, like "they go to a thing, but it turns out some thing"
get a bunch of those ideas down and let that be your start

>>91937033
Start making the story, Most common ways to go are:

Start with MC and introduce whoever come close to his story.

Do multiple Main Characters and interlock their stories with characters that come into their lives and events that shake them in different ways.

Go and unveil one character do a comic series about them, but intentional leave out part of the story that may happen to another character who you can introduce in another comic series like a chain of reactions.

Point is there are hundreds of things you can do, just make the story, plan something that Wows you. Try to outdo yourself in storytelling.

>>91936930
I don't mean to be mean but if you don't plan on adding much lettering you'll need more panels. I'd need a short story to connect the panels just on that first page.

Unless the sequence of events I listed above were close to what you have in mind.

>>91937131
>>91937178
Hmm thanks anons.
I took a break for a few weeks to try and organize my thoughts. Every-time I'm sure on one plot, another cool idea comes out and it turns into a giant clusterfuck.

I should probably start with a simple plot and branch out from there and then attach the other stories to that. I really dig the way Kill Six Billion Demons do it, and Bone from Jeff smith.

>>91937323
Well I'd give him some leeway here, my page doesn't have letter (dialogue) and most people probably can't tell what's happening here If you take away the notes i put on the sketch...>>91936829

Hey friends, I could use your help nailing down a concept that I'm not historically or mathematically inclined enough to nail down on my own.

The comic I want to make hinges, though it's not crucial to the PLOT per se just the mechanics of the background operations, on the main being the operator of a lending trust. So my question is this:

How far back in history and how much capital would be necessary to have effectively "limitless" funds today, or in the near-ish future? Or even the less near future, whatever works.

>>91937398
I get that. The difference I see there is that the characters and scene seem constant. The scene seems to change in anons page and so it seems more jumpy rather than consistent.

Also directionally you can see consistent movement in your art. Anons, with the jumps, seems disjointed.

If anon wants to have little wording the movement should be paramount.

>>91937323
You pretty much got the sequence 100% correct. I don't plan on adding much more than a maximum of 6-7 word balloons per page until I've established the characters enough. So adding more panels wouldn't really be an issue for the opening couple chapters.

>>91937033
I just write a general plot synopsis and let it branch out whenever I get ideas. Admittedly it's a pretty disorganized method but if you get the beginning synopsis solid enough to begin with, you can just brainstorm lore until the story basically writes its self.

>>91937516
Then disregard the rest of what I said. Maybe try to inject a bit more visual progression in the walk down the hallway.

>>91937488
Depending on whether or not you play the stock market it could be anywhere from a 10 million dollars 50 years ago to 100 million in the 18th century.

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>moving on to backgrounds

uuuugggghhhufuck

>>91937595
Forgive me, because again I am not the best when it comes to investment type things, but why would you need more capital farther back?

Also, why the 18th century specifically? Are there historical complications regarding banks that would prohibit starting it earlier?

>>91937685
Not that anon but maybe he's assuming the depression would gut your wealth

>>91937488
the thing to look into there, specifically, would be trust funds. i bet you can find great info if you search specifically for that on the internets.

all i know is that if you were really smart you'd store actual currency from back then, because it has a tendency to become collectors' items in the future... if you can actually hold onto it that long without getting robbed. david xanatos' entire fortune started with him timetraveling 1000 years into the past, getting a penny, then having it mailed to himself like 15 years in the past so he could get rich from it

>>91937488
Impossible, if you alter history in anyway to gain only riches you will alter the time line which would cause you not to go back and correct this. You'd create a time paradox that would ultimately end the universe.

UNLESS... you can flub up a Fictional Temporal System or FTS that can bypass or negate that.
Like i don't know Plan literally everything in you family while simultaneously keeping within the reason of reality. (Basically don't make you family powerful enough were people will kill them, you great great grandfather marries someones else)
Again Time Travel is dangerous don't do it, But if you want Limitless funds Today or in the future, Have your main character be a genius who in a future where currency is digital created the first "Limitless Currency Code"....

I don't know dude your story needs time to be developed good luck...

>>91937678
i love your backgrounds, but for talky pages like this you could get away with these placeholders you have now.

>>91937685
18th century is assuming that you're not playing the stock market.
If you were playing the stock market for as long as it had been open you'd have beyond limitless funds, you'd have more that the GDP of a small country.

Also yeah the great depression kinda screwed a lot of stuff up.

>>91937725
Are you being sarcastic?

Anon just wants to know how rich you would have to be, dating back to what year, in order to have Bruce Wayne money.

Like 100 mil in the 1920s.

>>91937685
I think his point is "it'll take longer and more money if you do diddly squat, just leave it sitting there, but you could do it in a trifle if you were smart"

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>tfw sent my notes to the artist
>tfw everything is developing smoothly
>tfw it's storming outside
>tfw accomplished

Maximum comfy, /hyw/. Nothing gets me feeling this good like success on my creative project.

>>91937704
I hadn't thought of that, but that's an excellent point.

>>91937725
Well I never said anything about time travel, nor do I intend to use it. The limitless currency code is an interesting concept and might be able to be worked in somehow, but in any event, like I said the trust itself is not overly pivotal to the plot. The idea is that the main himself is not particularly powerful, but as he is the current head of the family he's in charge of the trust, lending out money to more powerful yet broke folks (peter parker types). But again, that's not the focus of the comic, just the background.

>>91937712
THIS seems like something I could definitely work with. The idea of "old money" accruing additional wealth over time. It'd take some creative jiggering, but it's certainly worth consideration.


Excellent advice from all corners guys, thanks much.

>>91937341
Neither of the guys who replied to you, but also examine what links those episodic narratives together thematically. Do the characters have similar goals, or are they reacting differently to the same challenges? A hack strings together locations and characters--a good creator uses locations and characters to string together ideas and themes.

>>91937846
555-COME-ON-NOW... Show don't Tell...

>>91937920
I can't, m8. I wish I could, believe me, but it's all gotta stay under wraps until it's time. Marketing and all that.

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Finally, i can post this.

>>91937968
Lookin good my man

>>91937854
Yeah Episodic is the best way to go I feel, and thanks for bringing that point to my attention. Reacting differently to the same challenge, I really like that and I think this is something I was overlooking when hacking my story together.

>>91937973

Thank you.

Anyone got that sweet Discord link?

>>91938110
https://discord.gg/nTw7B

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Mmmmoving on

>"Pastebin is under heavy load right now"
>Refresh
>"Pastebin is und

ughhh

>>91938252
>less than 20 people total

Uh, is this the official HYW discord?

>>91938346
It's not the original, but this one is comfier

>>91938299
lookin good. what's with the bloom on the word bubbles though? makin it harder to read.
also blonde's face seems unshaded compared to the rest. is that just me? or is it maybe not done yet
>>91938346
it is now. the old one wasnt really, it was just a discord we had a room on.

>>91938371
>>91938373

Ah I see okay. Well, cool. I've been trying to get a link for the last like four threads but no one was on to get me one.

>>91938384
i think that was the old one you were trying to get a link to
this one consistently has someone on so I can always get you a link.. as soon as I find out how that works. or at least ask them

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I haven't gotten any work done in forever. i'm thinking about switching to pen & paper after this page. i bought some new pens and fucked around with inking some old drawings and i really like that look, so i think i'd be able to work faster that way and probably get better results too

>>91937968
looks cool
its like a home movies style fantasy
>>91937678
looks cool. i would try to add more details & wrinkles to the cloths, right now they kinda look like they're made of plastic

>>91938373
It is relatively under shaded, yeah. I'm just going to leave it as it is but I'll keep it in mind for the next page.

What do you mean by bloom?

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it's just a little thing. I'm updating every week. ideas are welcome

>>91938434
skullfriends are goodfriends

>>91938436
like the white of the balloons seems to be glowing, making the text washed out and sorta red-edged

>>91938438
>>91938434
I feel like you'd like Taxipsychy. Might be generalizing there.

>>91938464
Oh, the words just have soft edges because I wrote them in pencil and the whole page gets a red overlay. I get what you mean about it being a bit harder to read.

I'll test out a switch to ink for dialogue, so the edges are sharper.

>>91938459
>tfw no skeleton bud irl to hang out with

>>91938438
You should add panel lines or at least separate the panels with a slim black or white space. It looks weird when they're just stuck together like this. Kinda the opposite problem of manhwa webcomics where there's meters of space between 3 panels and they call that a "chapter".

Other than that, super interesting, it's got strong Mignola vibes but doesn't feel like a rip-off...

>>91938530
>meters of space between 3 panels and they call that a "chapter".
i fucking haaaate that

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>>91938530
oh, i just stitched the first panels with an online editor. when i post i upload the individual images so tumblr doesn't resize the whole thing. sdo the lines are there by default. sometimes the 600x600 images don't have enough space but I'm working on that
i just how i draw, really. I'm trying something new and instead of focusing on the details on a single thing with clean backgrounds I'm trying to do the opposite and visualize the whole scene with quick simple lines. same goes for the color.
I'm trying to work on the limits of what's enough to leave an impression but keeping it very simple.

>>91938690
*that's just how

>>91938690
Alright who is this guy because he's my favorite. he's so Mutagen Man. are those screwdriver fingertips?

what is easy patreon reward i can give with limited amount of time and no money?
there must be something i could give people that would drastically increase the odds of them giving me a dollar

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giving my best shot at greyscale. maybe give my pages a bit more life.

Had to compress the shit out of this page to upload it, maybe I need to change the brush I used to paint, the brush has too much detail,
maybe its just the fact that it isn't just black and white anymore
I dont know.

also going to try to binge draw for my two days off and hopefully make something gud
wish me lucky

>>91938769
idk i went with a friend to a museum and there was this jar thing with those valves and the thing with water inside. there's was also something about lights and lots of retro lamps diagrams and neon stuff. later i was drawing for practice and that came out

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>>91938479
Yeah, this'll be fine.

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>>91938821

>tfw you can't stop thinking about the "deep political" implications of creating entertainment
(i.e. not day-to-day politics like "will someone think this joke is actually a pro-Trump metaphor?", but a wider question like "by creating a fantasy to escape into, do i stop people noticing and fighting against an undesirable reality?")

I don't take it too seriously, but it's an irritating distraction.

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>>91938821
I didn't even realize you used a textured brush, it's so hard to see. The file is big because you did a png instead of a jpg, but I would go with a simpler brush anyway; it doesn't work with the style and it probably takes a lot of memory to draw with. Also, push your values a bit; there's some areas you could go pure black if you wanted to.

>>91939164
So create content with a direction that you think will help people develop their sense of awareness. Everyone loves a deeper message.

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>>91939188
Ill try to do that.
Ill play around with a better brush aswell

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Hey guys, how's it going?
Anon from one of the last threads here who's working on a concept for an adventure comic where the MC can control animals.
Pic related is from the storyboard for the first chapter I did about a year ago when the story was still relatively undeveloped and I was mostly working on other concepts.
I want the introduction during the first few chapters to transition into a longer flashback arc with MC as a kid.
I got the broad strokes of the story worked out now and am currently in the process of turning the 20 or so scripts for chapters I have into (crappy) storyboards...

>>91938821
Looks interesting. You got a site?

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>>91939456
I set up a tumblr url for it but have no idea when i'm gonna get it all together, or even post my pages
I'm too stupid to make a website for it aswell.

>>91939531
probably such have put the url
https://delrubydawn.tumblr.com/

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>>91939264
posting some stuff from my notebook...
Where do you usually do sketches, doodles, character designs and so on? I see a lot of people here working mostly digitally.

I've been playing around with motifs (I could really use some extensive resources on motifs and how to set them up) and one I've had a little bit of fun working out is the 7 deadly sins, yes I know it's overdone but should it make it into the final product I do intend to toy with the concept.

Example: Lust is usually done bass ackwards, usually represented as an object to be lusted after. Characters representing lust should actually be lustful ones and not limited to lusting after others.

Example 2: should i get that far, there will be 9, to attribute more to the 9 circles of hell from Dante's inferno, with Limbo being circle 1 and Treachery being circle 9

So I'm currently remastering (re-lettering and screentones, cleaning up stray lines) some old strips with a view to publishing a collection (they have been printed individually but never previously together).

There are 28 pages of strips, so with the front and back cover and the introduction/contents page, that totals 31.

That means I can make a 32 page book with only 1 page of 'extras' or a 36 pager with 5 extra pages.

At the moment I'm juggling between
>A blank page for a custom sketch
>1 page of character bios
>The old pin-up sketch that originall inspired the characters

That leaves 2 pages to fill for the 36 page book (or 1 page if I expand the character bios to 2 pages). Any suggestions? Ask friends for fan-art?

There are no 'design notes' as such, I just dived in to drawing a bunch of goofy strips (I drew the pin-up sketch mentioned above, then decided I liked these characters enough to draw some strips for them).

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>>91939876

>>91941114
Fan art is always fun, especially when the style is radically different, I'd say go for it.

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Haven't had much free time for comics.
Also, thanks a lot to the anon who gave me advice on coloring! I've been doing at least somehow better since the first page :)

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>>91941563
previous page

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I need to create quality webcomics as soon as possible. How long will it take me to produce art on a part with pic related in terms of quality? I got the story part covered. Now I need art.

If it is hard to answer, tell me how long it would have taken "you" as a beginner to reach pic related quality.

Keep in mind that I'm drawing 10 hours a day every day.

How big should a comic page be (in pixels)? Or a panel if it's a single panel vertical comic. Tell me your settings.

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>>91941686
I've been drawing seriously for about a year and a half, and my art is still terrible

http://imgur.com/a/X7Imu
pic related being what I used to post here a year ago

>>91941708
2480x3508, 300dpi.
converted to inches is the size of printer paper

>>91941563
>>91941595

Great pages over all, I really like your faces and expressions, reminds me of classic franco-belgian comics.
What is that though, a bus for dwarfs? It's way too small compared to the other vehicles around it, the roof is almost the exact same hight as the regular car in front...

>captcha: select all buses
f-fuck. You really should fix it anon

>>91941881
Yours don't seem bad. I've seen a paint-tier comic gaining patrons on Patreon.

How many hours did you dedicate to art daily on average?

Do you have a DeviantArt page so I can see your progress?

>>91941931
It's a philippine jeepney. Most of the comic will be set in the Philippines.

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>>91941999
on days where I'm into working
8-12 hours daily
the rest of the time
3-6 hours

the archival of my art over the years has been terrible. I actually might made a deviantart if It will help with that.

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>>91941708
>How big should a comic page be (in pixels)?

How long is a piece of string? Just as it depends on what you want to use the string for, the size of the page will be determined by where you intend to publish it.

For your original art, don't think in terms of pixels, think in inches or millimeters, and factor in that it should be printed at no less than 300dpi. You'll also need to take into account margins and bleed.

Standard US letter size is 8.5x11 inches, or 2550x3300pls @300dpi.
Euro A4 is 210x297mm, or 2480*3507pls @300dpi.

For web publication, particularly vertical orientation, your key dimension will be the width. This is where you need to be thinking in pixels; scale down the original art to around 700 to 1000 pixels wide, at around 96dpi. The exact number will depend on where you'll be hosting it.

I suggest you work at a size suitable for printing, even if you have no intention of doing so at the moment, as you may change your mind at a later date. Look into some standard print dimensions for comics, along with researching print terms like dpi, margins, bleed, etc.

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I've been coming up with spider designs

I might do like a bug sidestory

Not sure about what though

>>91938438
Use some hard spot blacks in place of the the darker hues.

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I don't actually know what I want a story about (which is always the issue)

I do want to explore ancient temples and stuff though. That's gotta happen.

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Deserts are boring. I'll go with like a Mushroom Marsh or something. Like a jungle.

I'm not sure whether I want spider web to come out of their butts or their hands. Butts is anatomically more correct but it would look really dumb coming from a bipede

Also, bees are cute.

>>91942296
What about some kind of silk-producing tailgland? Like a micro-spiderbutt.
They reach behind themselves to pull it out like a climber's chalk bag.

Hey I'm in the market for a drawing tablet, all the info is >>91941969 so can anyone suggest a good one?

>>91942360
That could work I guess

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>>91942191

THICC

On a related note, what does everyone think of webcomic rule 34? There exists quite a bit of it, I've seen it on /aco/ and generals like this too...

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>>91942805
Do not sexualise the bee.

>>91942189
This is incredibly useful imformation. I fucked up sizing hard, but thankfully I only have a few pages cmplete and work trad and in bnw.

>want to make a batman fancomic
>guy in here inspired me
>have a really cool quick one id like to do
>might totally over shadow his and discourage him
i feel bad couse you guys keep inspiring me and then i make a comic in the same vain and i feel as if im discouraging you.
should i go on and make it?

>>91942189
If I'm only publishing on the web, I don't have to care about dpi right?

>>91944232
Yes, if there's no way you'd be able to have a print version of your comic made, and you have no intention of ever doing so.

For example, if your comic is fanart, or if it uses animated GIFs, then by all means just make a web-only version. While dpi isn't really relevant, 72 or 96 dpi is standard for screens if you want a value to put in when setting up your files. Even then, work larger than normal, and scale down when publishing (usually 1.5 to 2x larger).

If it's an original creation of your own design, you'd be a fool not to consider possible future publication, or even just the ability to save out different sized versions for whatever reason.

While 300dpi is given as the minimum for print, consider making originals at 600 or even 1200 if you have the space and processor for it.

>>91941999
I don't know how this website works but here's my deviant art.
made it to archive my work better, had to go through tons of different sites to find alot of my old stuff
http://strawbles.deviantart.com/

>>91942189
Thank you based anon
>>91942191
>>91942975
>Thiiiiicc

>>91932129

Any tips for drawing anatomy correctly?

No matter how many videos, book, and still life reference examples I use I can't seem to improve.

>>91941686
Anon, /ic/ can give you a better answer to this question than this board.

It's hard to say how much time it will take you, but ten hours of practice a day is insane. At this pace, maybe it takes you one, two years from complete beginner, if you study the right things instead of just drawing whatever. Maybe you have the hardest time grasping the most basic concepts, and will never get there, it's tricky.

>>91941686

Quality is subjective anon. Some people take years. Others can pick it up within a few months. Some take decades.

What's the rush?

>>91942805
I draw porn of my characters all the time, but never see much of others

>>91941686
Anon, it's not a matter of time. You may be the type to find gains in the "rush" but it could just as easily set you back. You begin trying to find short cuts instead of keeping rigid intent and vision.

10 hours a day is also quite a bit. Not trying to discourage you, we all have our passions, but I know juggling a soccer ball for 10 hours a day for a month and then laxing probably wouldn't have helped me as much as 3 hours a day for a few years.

IMO creativity is a well. If you spend 10 hours a day emptying the well eventually it will be depleted. Life is the rain that replenishes the well and helps us succeed in co-opting and replicating what we see for our artistic endeavors.

>>91945701
To clarify, don't NOT draw because you think you've done too much per day. But don't agonize trying to keep that pace. 10 hours is alot.

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Bonus points for anyone who recognises the hotel in the last panel.

>>91945798
fuck if I know. The biltmore?

>>91938819
one of my favorites is access to private backer chats where they can ask for background info or submit ideas

>>91938860
yeah much better
>>91939016
abilities*

>>91939164
there are no political problems that can't be solved with money. if you haven't noticed yet that prosperity derives directly from a greater focus on entertainment media, then I don't know what to tell you
>>91940969
the neat thing with that concept is that it's really just seven kinds of selfishness, each of which is fine as long as you aren't being selfish. people tend to leave that part out. see if you can work that in.

>>91941267
dude, cool. reminds me of something from some old book I think I read once.

>>91942975
Did you know that queen bees sing to their workers?

>>91942191
This is some really interesting anatomy, i like it!

>>91942241
>spighters of aku
you monster
>>91942296
anime goes with mouth
logically if they're upright and don't have an abdomen trailing behind, that means they've done what crabs do and folded their abdomen up onto their stomach, where humans keep ours. thus, web out of the navel works fine

>>91942517
monoprice is good n' cheap
>>91943082
if I was that guy I'd be proud I'd inspired you. just don't do the same exact story.
i mean it's not like any of us own batman

>>91944669
start making each part of each part out of shapes, you can draw two circles the same size, right? or you can make one smaller than another and draw lines connecting them. there you go, that was a thigh you just drew. go with it.
>captcha: FARMA farms
oink

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I haven't been here in months, how's it going faggots?

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Okay so I finally actually started making my webcomic, here's the first page.

Someone tell me what appears to be going on here, because the friend I showed it to was confused.

Any confusion gets cleared up in the next page, but still...

>>91946101
I'd rather buy Wacom but if you can guarantee good quality competition I'd be open to it

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>>91946082
Yeah, that aku horn deal really fits as a sort of spider motif.
I'd like to make it a sort of spider fashion staple

>logically if they're upright and don't have an abdomen trailing behind, that means they've done what crabs do and folded their abdomen up onto their stomach, where humans keep ours. thus, web out of the navel works fine
That sounds pretty cool. I'll note that down someplace

>>91946062
Yeah, it's really hard to think of 6 different things for a dude's arms to be doing at any one time so I was thinking of having them fold unused hands underneath some kind of poncho across their abdomen.

I wanted to go for maximum lank-factor, to contrast with the thiccness of the bees

>>91946123

That is literally the most basic and common tip for drawing anatomy. I appreciate you taking your time to give me advice, but as I've said I have read and done a few classes in this and what you've said isn't really helpful since everywhere I go that is the first thing that pops up. I need something of more substance like tips in gesture or weight and balance.

>>91942517
I have a Huion Giano (WH1409) and it's great. Size is the primary factor of a graphics tablet, and that one is the most for your money. As long as you can deal with the rechargable pen (which lasts like 2 weeks per charge under heavy use)

>>91945855
Incorrect.

It's from a video game but technically based on a real hotel as well.

>>91942517
>>91946101
I had some terrible, terrible issues with monoprice's drivers (it refused to work for like 3 months, would intermittendly stop working and required a system restore every time, and it bricked my computer when I tried to uninstall the drivers. I had to reinstall windows and everything) and the tablets themselves are pretty low quallity.

Though, to be fair, they are very, very cheap.

I'd recommend one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/?iid=331800909562&&&adgroupid=40680863174&rlsatarget=pla-301251787857&abcId=1088866&adtype=pla&merchantid=113797648&poi=&googleloc=1006886&device=c&campaignid=805981323&crdt=0&chn=ps

They nicely shaped, reliable and don't waste any space.

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>>91946021
Thanks.
It's from the final arch of the comic during which an ancient civilization reemerges and invades several nations around the globe. They target military infrastrucutre and infiltrate or throttle government institutions.

All the prior archs revolve around people with special abilities and the ways they use them for their own means or to benefit sociey - but they cancel each other out and so humanity is mostly unafected by these exceptional individuals.
But the invaders come from a different cultural evelotion: in their society the 'enhanced people' rose to power and pooled their abilities into a nexus that facilitates all operations in their system of society - as opposed to technological advancement in the human world.

Pic related: First phase of the invasion, cloaked vessels incapacitate a major power plant.

>>91944731
I did 14-16 hours a day, for about a year. Literally get up and start drawing, maybe walk the dog a couple times, eat once or twice, go to bed rinse repeat. At some point things change and drawing becomes your default behavior.
It's easier for me to draw than not to draw, now.
I'm medicated and on the spectrum and shit, though.

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A boy falls in love with a girl. He is mysteriously gifted with her phone number. He calls her and finds out that she likes him as well. But the next day, she doesn't remember the confession. The girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn’t exist in this universe at all. She is the girl’s alternate universe counterpart, who likes his own alternate self. Hijinks ensue as the two tell each other their darkest secrets to conquer the hearts of their other selves.

See: http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/keit-ai/list?title_no=36825

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>>91946669
I like this version better.

>>91946669
Already a thing.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcVGDV67L-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_rz1bluG_k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLUjMWRCzic
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/keit-ai-finds-a-way/
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebOriginal/KeitAi

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>>91946489
cont.

In the invaders' scoiety all processes are maintained by the network of 'abilities' and all internal struggle is created by questions of distribution. For example, the production, maintenance and propulsion of vessels like pic related is not technological but 'ability-based' and that source is finite, just like elctricity or manpower or computation in the human world. There's an all-powerful cast of ability users that control the 99 percent of the population that are either drones or soldiers. They rule for a set amount of time, then settle into a circle of elders who maintain the nexus.

>>91946669
Is it still being updated?

>>91946783
why are you such a fucking faggot, anon? holy shit?

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>>91946669

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>>91946783
>tv tropes
>know your meme

>>91946669
Still the best idea/webcomic on this thread.

I dare you to come up with a webcomic posted on these threads more popular than Keit-ai.

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>>91946817
Posting some recent stroyboards.
I put a bit more effort into it this time but I realize the art is still shit, this is merely a blueprint.

So here's a chapter that's supposed to come directly or shortly after the flashback arc and show how much MC has grown and set up some new plot points.

The world this all takes place in is pretty much equivalent to early 80s society, so no internet or highly advanced commercial computers. Organized crime is under pressure from international agencies and there's strong telecomunication surveilance. So crime syndicates use carrier pigeons (among other mehtods) for communication.

In this chapter, MC raids a floating base for the carrier pigeon network and gains intel related to the murderers of his mentor.

>>91938819
WIPs of pages?
thats what 2 of 3 of my supported people do

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>>91947045
2/2

MC works with a herd of killer whales to take out the criminals.
At first I wanted to use some extra pages to show how the pigeon network works: decription, encription, vetenary people for the birds, how gangsters send and receive messages and so on. But I decided it would hurt the pacing. Maybe I'll bring it up again in a later chapter.

After the raid MC trades off the base to an intelligence agency and they turn it into a honey pot to gather syndicate intel...

>>91946172
I'm liking this, do you have a comic?

>>91947616
I used to work on Dust Ballet before I decided to change the angle of the project from comix to vidya. I only ever made about 2 pages, though.

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Finally a thread!

Here's the page I finished today.

It's been pretty hard to be doing pages because I've been so busy with animation.

I'm also currently stressing out because Harry Partidge is watching the animation I finished a while ago.

Do you guys prefer first chapters that tell complete stories, or first chapters that just set up the premise, characters, and kick off the story? I really like it when stories accomplish both, but I'm having trouble formulating one for a comic I'm planning.

>>91949951
shitty answer but I really have no preference. Just write an organic single story and if it displays a good status quo for the character think of using it as an intro.

That's really what you want to set forth in the first issue. More than the character's "character" and the full plot (nod to the main vein of it at least) you want to set the tone and voice. Readers are smart enough to know this isn't the character in-full to start or that the main plot isn't going to be in full swing necessarily.

>>91942975
gonna miss Mae desu

>>91946669
It's been so long, I kinda missed it

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>>91946357
first of all, study bone structures and find a way to simplify them down. second of all, learn how muscles structures work and practice with differently sized muscle groups depending on the character you want to draw.

If you're trying to get a more flowing style, make the bones and the muscles have a softer, more elastic feel to them. obviously not full on rubber, but making the overall structure look softer will help you achieve that. likewise for a sturdy character make then rigid and stiff.

Here's an example sketch I did a few years back, it might help you grasp what I'm talking about.

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>>91944669
Study Hampton and do a lot of figure drawings. Focus on getting proportions correct as well as conveying the volume of body parts. Think three dimensionally. Doing life drawings helps as well.

https://archive.org/details/FigureDrawingDesignAndInventionMichaelHampton

>>91945798
the one in Hell's Kitchen from Deus Ex?

hey I saw a guy doing watercolors today using a water-filled marker he could dip in the paint. it was cool. you ever use one of those?

>>91946172
I dont remember you but I love your faces and profile shapes and I want more please
>>91946305
Egon gets a call on his futurephone

>>91946316
I'm not gonna say it's "just as good"
but I am gonna say it's "like an eighth of the price"

>>91946357
Well in fairness you gave a really vague request. I assumed you were getting over-loomis'd and needed to get back to the really-simples.

I can't help you with gesture, weight, and balance because those are the areas I suck in and don't fully understand yet (don't notice or recognize in others' work) but good luck!

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What onscreen drawing tablets would you guys recommend? Are Huions ultra bad quality? What about XP-Pen? Cintiqs are just so fucking expensive.

>>91946669
if youre that guy fucking update the comic
if you arent, stop linking it with copypasta

>>91950883
Close enough, I think my friend was just stupid.

>>91949235
whoa, what do partridges even eat
godlike is one word
this coloring is prettier than usual, but I notice you're still kinda just doing rimlighting and rimshading, which makes everything look like a flat beveled surfce, like every panel is a coin. gotta think of those 3d shapes man

>>91944669
I don't know what you're doing or what you've done. However things that helped me.
1. Think in terms of the wireframe, and where the light breaks, always.
2. Have a plan for what you want in terms of poses/composition, either in your head or as a sketch.
3: get a big newsprint pad and some charcoal and spend twenty minutes to an hour doing 20 second to 120 second gesture drawings on quickposes. If you can go longer do so, but don't make yourself nuts. This is an excellent warm up excercise. Note: they aren't supposed to look good.
4: Do not worry about short term results.
5: suck it up.

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>>91950883
aight lad, I'll see if I can dig up some sketches I did a while back.

>>91949951
I tend to use videogames as my guides for story pacing, and I like when you start out with a short prologue chapter. it's not a proper chapter but it gets shit going and makes you hunger for more.

>>91950980
i saw a cheapish one the other day where most of the reviews said it was fine and fantastic for the cost, but then you see those like 3 out of 90 who had severe problems that I wouldn't tolerate.. i guess the issue is that you might get a shitty one since the manufacturing has to be less exacting to save you that money?

>>91951188
Love it. this is some good-ass art.
what's any of it going to be about?

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I just made my first and I wanted some other opinions on it

>>91951495
I hope you like metal slug, boyo. they're all character designs for a vidyagaem

>>91951567
so collectible! What's it about and what's going on?
>>91951682
I do. I really do. you makin games? how? i wanna make games. i've drawn those forever

>>91952183
It's about a group of miniature robots hanging out and their lives. The orange one is a tree cutter. Also what exactly did you mean by collectible?

>>91952183
start off by documenting everything you want in the game. what style of game you want, who your target audience is, how long the gane will be, every character, dialogue option, item, all of the mechanics you want, how the story will play out, what kind of secrets you'll put in (if at all), how those can be accessed, whether or not you want branching paths etc etc.

once you've done that you can start making a few really simple concepts to help sell the idea, then your job is to find a game engine that you can use to make the game (or code a specialized one yourself but that's not easy at all) and either learn to code or get some friends to help you out.

If you keep your project simple and low intensity enough, you can make it almost entirely solo, just look at environmental station alpha.

>>91952311
I want to collect them all!

>>91952439
I never thought about that
the main appeal of all my game ideas is "stuff happens that even AAAs refuse to program in because it's too much work" so..... I never considered it possible.

>>91952506
almost all AAA games are badly coded messes that have all their budget pumped into art assets, 'muh realistic physics' and marketing fiascos.

they're not a good example of how games should be made at all, kek.

>>91952614
nevertheless, they have huge piles of money to throw at things

Anyone here got some fun character questionnaires they want to share? The main character of my comic is fairly fleshed out, but I'd like to flesh out her supporting cast a bit more.

>>91952836
we had fun activities in the past for things like draw each character eating their favorite food

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I still don't like my backgrounds

Is there like, a Loomis of backgrounds somewhere?

>>91950444
>bones

Man I sure do miss that guy, why did he leave? He was obviously the star quarterback of this 4chan webcomic football team. Just saying.

>>91952883
please don't summon him.

>>91942189
This is important information. Thank you.

>>91952874
I wish
These are a little loose, I suggest using a few solid straight-edged lines and letting the rest just be. they aren't as important

>>91952867
That does sound fun. Someone should post a template or a questionnaire or something.

someone threaten me so I actually get my work done

>>91954043
i'll put my finger in your butt if you don't get your work done

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>>91954043
Ill cut you if you dont post a page fgt

>>91954043
i havent written in a week and im sure it has something to do with my stomach fat

dont be like me

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>>91954082
>>91954091
I said threaten, not arouse

>>91954043

I gonna rip off your finger nails, And peel off your eyeballs. Then fuck your mom in front in front of you.

If you don't draw your GODDAMN COMIC!

>>91954043
Dewd and Bones are more productive that you maggot.

>>91954043
If I see you slacking off I will write stuff on your sidewalk.

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>>91953898
hmm, I'll have to try that on the next page, I've gone too long without updating so I think I'll have to publish this as is, flaws and all.

Another thing Discord was talking about is that I need to implement better use of Chiaroscuro, especially since this is a black and white comic, I want to make it look like a similar style to this next pic I'm going to post:

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>>91954341
this one

>>91954292
Fuck. This is the one that actually motivated me. Time to get cracking.

Thanks m8s.

>>91954150
my finger has hot sauce on it.
and i'll put it in the cut afterwards

>>91954366
Zootopia concept art? Good taste, my man. You should think more about your focal points and using tones in your composition to guide people's eyes around the page. In both of these illustrations, the focus of the image is the brightest part, and the dark areas are used to frame the scene or guide your eye towards the focal point.

>>91954341
wait which discord are you on
>>91954366
yeah these are lovely interiors. varying up your shades of gray more will give it a lot more depth
but in general your backgrounds are fine so don't worry.

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>>91938434
damn, FINALLy finished this page!
hows it looking?

i'm kinda bothered about how the text is all different sizes, is that a big issue?

>>91954527
it's not a big issue, but the text in the 3rd panel is too small. if you have that much to say, you should probably devote more than 1/12th of the page to it.

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>>91954478
alright, hopefully I can make it work

>>91954500
the superior Webcomic Land one.

Just kidding, I don't know what the other one is like

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Starting final chapter of this arc, woot woot!
I haven't had to worry about things like vanishing points in ages, but It's actually refreshing to draw somewhere that isn't
a) A hut/primitive house
b) A forest
c)Hills

>>91937033
An episodic structure works well because you can give everyone their tun to shine and can space out world-development between the smaller adventures.
Plus, it allows you to jump straight into the action and more immediately catch the reader's interest; you start out small and develop towards something big

>>91952874
I think the look quite alright except for Panel 1, where the perspective is a fair bit off. I can tell what I'm looking at and they make the characters stand out.

>>91954912
oh hey this has some nice depth

>>91954916
I hear you man, but isn't it annoying having to color a million books? I love bookshelves as a background but damn the covers kill me. whereas with natural stuff nobody cares

>>91954916
>except for Panel 1
Yeah, on of my main problems is that background tend to be an afterthought for me, unless it's the main focus of the panel

>6 months hiatus now
>didn't mind that much as never received a lot of comments really
>suddenly quite some comments about it, one request of the pyshical book i have around

damn, shaming me like this does work, gonna have to sped up those new pages.

why are these threads so fucking dead lately?

>>91956063
stomach fat

>>91956063
I haven't set up a tumblr yet, nor have I started drawing so I don't really have anything I could show off I don't want to post my ideas until I actually have something to show off with it

>>91956063

Art take a long time to create, babe.

>>91956063
It smells bad.

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Okay I rearranged the panels and added dialogue.
Thoughts?

>>91956095
what is this meme? i'm seeing it in the strangest places

>>91956063
they should just be deleted, some shitty stuff no one reads, the same 3 clowns talking to one another, and the occasional guy that posts a comic WIP every few weeks

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>>91956160

>>91956063
I think we lost the europeans who were bumping at night. it's not that strange for threads to wax and wane, but they've only been dying overnight
>>91956160
nice to see someone's thinking about years after an apocalypse differently from it just being perpetually like it just happened

>>91956187
I think more people should just make and post progress.

>>91956063
because even though the tone is generally "not the best but you can do it!" it's kinda smarmy in these threads. People making muddy, ugly comics with bad writing and TERRIBLE bubbling and lettering (seriously just do white bubbles with black letters). Anything that looks hand drawn is glossed over to comment on the newest digital purple pig looking OC and friends comic.

take >>91945798 for example.
I don't necessarily know anything about it but this is one of the few that has a visually appealing style. A coherent one. It's literally depressing to want to get better and see this get no sort of response while muddy, generic circle character pages get love (in the form of a response of ANY sort.)

The quality of these threads wholly depends on who you interact with in them.

Sometimes drawthreads are better because it's not just the same crappy flash style you see in the HYW threads.

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>>91955045
Oh, it really wasn't so bad,.
Thing is, it's been WAY OVER A YEAR since I've had to drawn an environment that looked remotely CIVILIZED, so this was quite refreshing to me.
There's BOOKS because the character in the page are actually literate! They're sitting on BENCHES instead of logs or the floor! The walls have WINDOWS to let the light in and are made of stone instead of... I dunno, manure, probably!

>>91955156
Eh, they're an after thought for me too most of thine. I think you generally need ONE panel with good background per page to actually establish the setting; afterwards walls and trees work fine.

>>91935021
Dune, you've improved SO MUCH since the first couple of threads, your shadows are real nice

Anyhow, I think I'm pretty set on the designs of Chapter 8. I hope the body-paint on the warriors won't add too much time to my coloring, but I'm exited to finally conclude this arc

>>91956385
>gives bizarre explanation for empty threads that has nothing to do with it
>but you're still here, so it didn't drive YOU away
we didnt say much to vigor mortis because that's a regular, we've all gushed before, many times. you don't want it to turn into a gushfest, do you? plus it DID get response, two people tried to answer the question
maybe the threads would be better if you left. I guarantee you at least would have a better time

it's hard to take any discussion here seriously when you know the people you're conversing with are responsible for the scribbles with 3rd grade writing that litters the threads

>>91956737
meant to reply to this:
>>91956385

>>91956737
Nothing says 3rd grade like smug dismissal of others

>>91956795
>no u
exhibit A

>>91956385
If you dislike that good webcomics get no feedback in these threads, start giving feedback. Be the change you want to see in the world.

>>91956137
>I don't want to post my ideas until I actually have something to show off with it
This for me. Especially since I've already mentioned my idea a couple times already. It takes a long time to get good at drawing.

>>91957082
>>91956137
don't bother waiting to git gud, you will never git that gud, just draw comics and put them out so you can get feedback

>>91957129
what if the feedback is "do X" and you WERE doing X, but you're not done yet. and now every time you want to do X like you have been doing, you'll hear that anon yelling at you, and it'll mess with your mood

>>91957365
Why would you be mad if someone thinks it's a good idea to do what you already wanted to do? That much of a contrarian?

>>91957365
>and now every time you want to do X like you have been doing, you'll hear that anon yelling at you, and it'll mess with your mood
are you literally 13?

>>91957434
no it just messes with your head, right?
>>91957483
doesn't it? I can't be the only person. Are you seriously telling me it didn't fuck with your head for upwards of 18 hours when a teacher or parent told you to do something and you WERE doing it? and there's NO good way to explain that, without looking like you're giving an excuse

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>>91956218
Some of us still lurk here, but I tend to be asleep in the morning until eleven o'clock across the week, because I'm awake until very, very late in the night. And then I wake up and go to classes, so... Could be great to have people from the east Europe or the east coast of the Mediterranean Sea, I guess.

Posting some kind of progress: the policeman's profile is done and ready to show in the website, whenever I or my pals do said site. I was to post it yesterday, when it was still in progress, and the ast about some advice, but I decided by myself about it in the end. My apologies.

>>91957899
You're not alone. I hesitate to say you're normal. Because I sure as fuck wouldn't classify myself as normal. But I totally understand how you feel that way.

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How do I go from seeing a nice artist on HYW to recruiting them for a weekly ongoing for my site?

I've got an opening on the roster and people from the C2E2 creator connections panel are being lazy with reply e-mails.

>>91960036
Just tell them that you're interested when you see them post, ask for their email, explain to them the terms and conditions, and if they accept write up a nice little work for hire contract to make sure neither party gets stiffed.

>>91957129
Well, I mean, I still haven't even finished designing two of the three main characters and even the one I do have 'finished' still doesn't feel perfect, so I'm okay waiting a few more weeks to post anything.

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>>91960460
stop waiting to post

>>91960369
they'd post it on this board for the public to see?

do you have the discord link(s)?

>>91962274
Here's the new discord
https://discord.gg/Yk46m
Link expires in 30 minutes.

Just ask for the artist's email, or a Tumblr/Twitter/whatever where you can discuss things more privately. Just ask for their contact info on 4chan so you can move somewhere more private to discuss the details.

>>91962543
Thanks

There's an (old) discord as well?

>>91962795
Yes, but no one was getting links to it

>>91962274
>>91962991
https://discord.gg/Cjr4a

Invite for Webcomicland ("main" /hyw/ discord even tho most member don't even post here anymore)

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>>91961920
Grumble grumble. Fine, here's Ruby - the only picture I have on my computer, I'm mostly drawing pen and paper right now and just wanted to see if the eyeshadow was too much. It's not. I really like it, though I do need to pick a better color. I think a softer blue might be better. I wasn't sure what to do with her collar for a while. I love the handcuff key, but thought that would be borrowing too much from Doom Kitty (this was also when I was thinking of making her black instead of gray) but eventually decided that having it change would be best. Cross, pentagram, key, that sort of thing.

She's a witch's familiar, in love with her master. The comic's about lewd and fun hijinx as she tries to seduce her human owner - who is some kind of normal person that doesn't want to fuck a cat. Her best friend is a bat name Bela, can't decide if she'd be better as a vampire bat or fruit bat, and a spider can't decide if she should be a pet tarantula or a random house spider

>>91963384
that's adorable. i love everything about that premise
if you want my two cents,
>cat nose should probably be pink unless it's a much darker coat color. s'just how melanin goes
>darker blue would indeed work nicely for eyeshadow. less is more.
>maybe a bobbypin on the collar, representing picking any handcuffs or locks
>the best bats are honduran white bats, but otherwise i'd decide by geography. vampire bats are from chupacabra country whereas fruit bats are african. where has this witch been? Like, Jafar has been to the caribbean because he has Iago. it tells part of the story
>As for the spider, make it a giant house spider like a huntsman. That way it's nice and big but less generic than the same ol' tarantula. plus those things live everywhere and survive in tons of climates

>>91963384
>sexual stuff
dropped, sick of fetish faggots

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>>91963384

>>91964469
The colors are definitely tbd, that's the first picture I did of her in color. The only definites I have are that her fur is gray she's very self-conscious that she's not a real black cat and that her lip is red, matching her collar which is how her master decided on her name. I think the general shape of her eye is good, though I need to work on her eyelashes more. I can't decide it I just want the three top lashes, or if I want to add in two more lower lashes as well. I think the extra two bottom lashes make her more cute than sexy or elegant though so I think I'll stick with the three top lashes only.

Her body's pretty far along too. I'll draw one up tomorrow to get some advice. I can't decide if she should have ribs showing or not, and I'm having trouble with her butt shape.

The bat's a pet, just like Ruby, so there's lots of flexibility with her species there. I thought vampire bat was a bit too on the nose and fruit bat was a bit too obvious a subversion, so I might go with a third option lie a honduran white bat. The spider being a huntsman could certainly work.

>>91964520
If it makes you feel better, I have another comic idea about a cat and dog detective pair, but that will require a bit more artistic and writing/paneling skill since it will be actual stories and not just three panel jokes, so that will come later.

>>91965508
have you considered one solid piece for the lashes, ending in a point? it's very catlike and traditional, plus it's a fuckton easier to draw.

>>91965822
That's a good idea too. The general shape of the eye I like, but the eyelashes are definitely still something I'm trying to settle on. I think the multi-lash is going to be more fitting for her personality, but I'll draw a couple other mock ups.

One lash strikes me as a bit more standoff-ish. Regal and elegant, or maybe cool and composed. But the three lashes make her seem more melodramatic, like a primadonna. But then if you add TOO many lashes, it circles around to cute and innocent, or maybe more towards brat than diva. Or maybe I'm overanalyzing things way too much.

>>91966206
no actually that's just right, the separate lashes is more prim and elegant, if that's what you're going for.

>>91966349
Alright, as long as I'm not crazy. She's the over-emotional, melodramatic type for sure. If she were a person, she'd be the kind that has and uses a fainting couch, while peeking with one eye open to make sure that the scene was having the desired effect on whoever else was in the room.

That moment when you realize your perspective for a scene is completely fucked and you just say "screw it" because correcting it would ruin to composition

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Characters

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>>91933691
I have been playing Automata recently, and its putting in a mood to pull out an old project.

my webcomic is SHIT
SHIIIIIIT
I FUCKING HATE IT

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>>91968114
Post it so I can insult you

>>91966578
that's fantastic. Your art may not be any masterpiece yet, but just from what I've heard, how much thought you've put into this, it's going to be a fun comic guaranteed. This kind of fun characterization can't lose.
>>91967545
Yeah once in a while you have to do that. At least you noticed it. Next time, you'll plan ahead, right?
>>91967648
whoa who's this badass? I feel like I'd better shut my mouth unless I can dig it

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>>91968198
a page i'm working on

>>91968455
Finish it

>>91968480
nah it's too shit, i'll try again in a few months

>>91968455
style's good at least
>>91968647
that's for the best. you've got a long way to go

>>91968647
>>91968721
er, because obviously between now and in a few months, you're going to study, right? so it's okay to wait.

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>>91968721
>style's good
this is why everyone good left the thread

>>91968837
Seriously. Almost everyone decent has long since abandoned these threads, or only post rarely. Now all's we got are a few long time regulars and a circulation of new people who pop in and leave once they realize what kind of place this is.

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Final WIP of this dumb comic that should have been finished two weeks ago.

>>91969095
and cranks who pop in periodically to bitch
the style is good, you toaster pastry. i also advised him to go with his gut and work on the art before continuing the page because i agree it's not good enough yet. or do you just selectively read and quote the parts that trigger you?

>>91969654
oh man, this was already cool, didn't think you were going to color it.

>>91969868
Dude, even ignoring the fundamental flaws that style ain't attractive. At least give the guy advice on how they can improve the art or something rather than pussy footing around the issue.

I ain't a crank who only comes here to bitch, I'm a regular who's frustrated with these threads. I've been trying to give out actual constructive critique here for months now, and still these threads are flooded with useless criticism and bad advice.

I've been worldbuilding a bit for a nsfw comic I'm gonna do.

I think the heroine might be a cambion dickgirl

>>91970065
i think a lot of people come here just to get feedback and attention, and if they don't get they either sperg or bail.
its akin to waywt threads in /fa/ or soundcloud threads in /mu/
too many people are only concerned with themselves

>>91970065
I don't think there's any specific advice that can be given at this point. it's at the beginning stages.
but yes it is, that style is damn attractive. you realize that's independent of quality, right? Tons of high quality shit is ugly

>>91970307
I've never been a big fan of the ol' -cubus family. they seem redundant. Any demon's into sex in my book. Still, that's an idea. If you like futa I guess. Certainly the premise fits. I recall in Pornucopia, the incubus and succubus were the same demon, who could switch on demand. Having a bit of each certainly fits with that premise. Does that tie into the worldbuilding in some way? Like are all their offspring odd in some manner?

>>91970616
>they seem redundant. Any demon's into sex in my book.

You're wrong tho?

Incubus and Succubus are about making babies. They were basically a way of explaining about Farmer Brown's daughter got knocked up by the guy three doors down when they definitely never had sex. It must have been a succubus that stole his sperm, and gave it to an incubus to impregnate her.

>>91970616
>Any demon's into sex in my book.
That's true in this story as well! The particular power of succubus in this setting is that they seduce, corrupt and enthrall people, while other demons just rape everything.

I've been thinking of doing a NSFW comic for a while. And then tonight I had a bit of an epiphany on how the magic in this setting works, and started writing down all sorts of ideas for demons, ranging from typical things like succubus to bile blobs and giant blind rape dogs that can smell pussy from miles away and thumb-sucking shortstack imps that spend all their time suckling on cow-demons.

Eventually I came to cambions and realized it kind of fit with the dickgirl thing. It'd be a nice source of conflict for the character. As a cambion she would be forever tainted to any humans, but she's not totally depraved like the demons. And dickgirl naturally fits with the theme of being half one thing and half another.

As for -why- she's a dickgirl, not sure yet. Originally she was gonna be a boy that got transformed, but as a cambion she's a bit different from the previous incarnation. I could write it that she can just switch her genitals, like you said. That'd probably be the best way to go about it.

It's still in the works, obviously. mostly just posting here for ideas- like the transforming penis and haunted vagina. I don't want to go too idea guy because I don't have much to show yet. But I'll post some character designs when I can. Being half-demon gives me some cool opportunities I think. Obviously won't be posting the NSFW here, but a good deal will also be sfw. it'll be a fun adventure story like Zelda but with sex weird fetishes and rape sometimes/often.

>>91971130
which is even dumber. any myth that's obviously mythical within the context of the story takes me right out of it. Like, I can't have a gulon when it's painfully clear that's just a wolverine

>>91971294
ah, so the cubeys are the romantics. I dig that.
>fun adventure story like zelda but with sex
Sounds like you're gonna make this pretty interesting
and fuck, if she can switch, i think i'll actually be interested in reading it. I'd love to contribute ideas to this.
in the meantime, I reccommend Pornucopia as inspiration, along with looking up some oldtimey druid rituals.

>>91971294
> it'll be a fun adventure story like Zelda but with sex weird fetishes and rape sometimes/often.
So... not a fun adventure story at all

>>91969896
Thanks anon, I originally wasn't going to color it because its 2 hard, but what the hell, gotta learn eventually.

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>fully capable of coloring pages at a basic level
>make it black and white for no other reason than "m-muh newspaper"

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>>91934255
>>91934302
I love your idea and lines anon.
Smooth and soft.

>meanwhile
Learning to draw gunfire, I suck so bad at it I wonder whether I can do that professionally sucking I mean

>>91971294
Coldfusion pls

>>91972405
That person actually uses punctuation, it's not him

bump for tonight

>>91934302
This looks fun to draw

>>91945798
vampire masquerades something whateveer

>>91969095
>Seriously. Almost everyone decent has long since abandoned these threads, or only post rarely.

So did the three people you all bitched at to leave (Bones, Dewd and Scribbs) so why aren't you happy?

These threads dying so often, sometimes barely 100 posts in, is evidence of the fact that no one really cares around here, and that """"conversation"""" only happens when its fucking arguing and bitching about what someone else is doing.

Then you guys say these threads are "dying" because all the good artists left.

No, they're dying because the people who got fucking tired of the bitching left, and people you bitch about also finally left. Which is what you wanted. But in your crusade to point fingers, you just attack everyone that's left.

>>91973042
Agree with this faggot.
This thread are great for people to show webcomic, ideas, concepts, discuss shit without pressure of /ic/.
Just a pub all kind of anon gather at, not only for those who made it.

Let us chill.

>>91973042
I abandoned this thread because cunts like you never give any crit and act like artists are some kind of sacred cow.

stop trying to speak for everyone you narcissistic faggot.

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>>91972398
I think I've got the gun fire pretty well, for my current level anyway.

>>91973042
Look lil nigga, I'mma give you some advice. I don't know if this is your first time dealing with an online community or what, but what other people say and think? Doesn't fuckin matter dude. An online community only has power over you if you actually give a fuck about what they say. By not giving a fuck? You gain all your power back. Sure, you might not be able to join their secret club and cozy up to some anons or whatever, fine. But this strange pissing contest over the moral compass this general should have is arbitrary and bullshit.

I'm a little blitzed right now, but essentially, you can only control yourself and your posts. You can't control what "the community" thinks or values or whatever bc it's all bullshit anyway. Plus retarded.

Post your shit, have a thick skin, and ignore the bitch ass niggas with an attitude. That's how you do it. If you get worked up about what people think on this mongolian basket weaving site you're a fag, my man.

>>91974579

You must be either super blitzed, or replying to the wrong post.

I never said anything about the quality of critique around here, nor the quality of the artwork.

Just that people get tired of the shitflinging. I said nothing about being able to accept critique, just that people get tired of the totally irrelevant back-and-forth that goes on in these threads.

Probably 3/4 of the posts in these threads are unhelpful, or detrimental to the point of these threads. That's why people leave, when there's so much irrelevant bullshit being posted. Not because someone was critical of their art.