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What's with so many webcomics now just being about the author's

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What's with so many webcomics now just being about the author's depression or lack of motivation?
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It's R E L A T A B L E
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It's a cry for help before their eventual, inevitable suicide.
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>>91850916
>>91850975
These. Plus, they're easy as fuck to make.
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>>91850887
Serms like it's mostly just this guy.
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>>91850887
>Aw shucks...
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>>91850887
feels good to vent
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>>91851418
The Sexy Losers guy eventually turned into this guy's prototype.

The guy who did Homestuck also spiraled down, if the grapevine proves correct.
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lack of any other real life experiences to write about
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>>91850887
>all his comics get thousands of notes on tumbumblr
if it works do it again i suppose
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Because adulting is hard and depression is highly romanticized by first world teens.
It sells like water on the desert.
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Self-deprecation became mainstream lately over the years, that's been the new hotness for a while.
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because nobody cares about my fan fics.

pic related
I did this today.
should I make more tomorrow?
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>>91850887
Fucking capitalism, not even once.
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>>91850887
An artist putting out work about how they don't get work done is a paradox
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>>91850887
Relatability sells
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>>91851708
What?
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>>91851703
Fuck outta here commie bastard.

Actually, though, why do filthy communists have to make everything about politics?
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>>91851662
I'm going to be honest. It's not that great. The action doesn't seem to have any flow, and the word bubbles are all over the place and don't seem to be connected. Not to mention the arts not mind-blowing.

But
Fuck yes you should make more tomorrow.
Make more tomorrow, and make more the day after that.
Make more every day until your artistic idols are your colleagues.
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>>91851748
It's a silly comic about people's habit of just eating when they're bored.
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>>91851787
this is a good post
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>>91851753
Because literally everything in life is about politics, as much as the 4chan mods may hate to admit it.
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>>91851810
>A literal lifetime of media to consume
>People somehow still get bored
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>>91851708
Fuck this guy, I don't care that he tries to cash in on the "relatable" comic trend, no, this guy is straight up fucking lazy, basically a hipster Buckley that works at BuzzFeed. Look at some of his comics on Google, the majority of them reuse the same drawings over and over again, he just changes the color of the backgrounds
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>>91851900
But modern media is shit.
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>>91851890
I started growing some tomatoes next to my window today. Please tell me how that's political.
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>>91851971
>>91851900
I actually feel like we're in a really good time to be a fan of television. There's a lot of quality /co/ related content out there, but fuck even /tv/ is popping off. There's just so many good shows
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>>91851927
the real question is, is there any porn of this?
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>>91851708
>>91851927
This is fucking awful
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>>91851984
It's not, but that's nice to hear, and I hope your tomato plants do well.
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>>91851900
Consuming media randomly and out of context doesn't do much for me. Over the years burnout has come more and more quickly. I long for the days when being able to download two or three cartoons or anime was something to look forward to.
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>>91851984
You fucking pinko, you're denying the farm industry its share of the market.
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>>91851927
We need a googly eyes edit.

QUICKLY YOU FOOLS!
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>>91851787
appreciate the criticism and support my man, sincerely.
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>>91852101
From an economics point of view you're pretty much correct, actually.
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>>91852005
It's not the same as it was in the nineties. Which I know sounds like nostalgia calling, but really we haven't seen anything like the Cartoon Cartoon block or the original Adult Swim lineup in decades.
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>>91852005
Standards have dropped. What's considered "quality" now wouldn't have merited a second glance in the early 2000s.
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>>91850975
>before their eventual, inevitable suicide
how do we accelerate this
what were the magic words for JewWario, we need them
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>>91852269
Nah, there were plenty of mediocre cartoons in the 90s and early 2000s. We just avoided watching them, so we don't remember much of them.
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>>91850887
ez 2 rite
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>>91852181
Half ass attempt
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>>91852005
>but fuck even /tv/ is popping off.

They've been having an atomic meltdown over Bill Nye the last few days.
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>>91852318
There was a lot more content in general back then, though. The quantity obscured the really shitty stuff. Now there's so little new media in general, and the average has taken a nosedive to boot.
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>>91852371
I mean, /tv/ related content. There's a lot of good live action shows being released left and right
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>>91850887

Because mental illness is fashionable, but only so long as you talk about your 'crippling depression' or your 'social anxiety'.

Also making fun of how hard exercise is and how little rewards it seems to have to eating like a fucking pig are quite popular as well.

Let's not talk about things like the runner's high which is legitimately better than sex, the fact that real people with anxiety have to learn to not let it control them, or the fact that real depression isn't something that would let you draw a webcomic on a regular basis.
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Easy to make plus now that the internet exists, artists can share their crippling depression with each other and get validation with likes and comments
Not that I speak from experience I do
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>>91852371
BILL NYE THE DON'T ASSUME MY GENDER SHITLORD

BILL BILL BILL BILL
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>>91852474
Runner's high is better than sex? Shit, so you're saying that going running every day to get in shape so I can bang random sluts is pointless because running itself is superior to sluts?

What if I go for a jog with a cutie, then I fuck her afterwards? What would that be like, fucking while high from running?
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>>91852490
Sarah you were a lot more fuckable without the pixie haircut. Pixie hair looks like dyke hair.
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>>91852371
why what's going on with bill?
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>>91852371
>atomic meltdown over Bill Nye
Do I want to know what happened around him this time? Been getting more disillusioned with childhood heroes by the year...
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There's also the schadenfreude element. People who aren't suffering on a daily basis take comfort in the knowledge that they aren't the character in that comic. Life may get me down, but at least I can go to the store and only modestly worry if the cashier is judging me.
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It's low-effort and hits on the "I'M SO MESSED UP GUYS LMAO" fad
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>>91852600
>>91852587
Must be getting political. Sooner or later if you're on the attack, you attack someone who doesn't deserve it or say something that wasn't helpful to have said.
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>>91852530

There's only one way to find out.

GO ANON.

DO WHAT I CANNOT BECAUSE MY NIGHT WORK AND MY LAZINESS HAVE RUINED MY SOCIAL LIFE!
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>>91851662
i like it

keep coloring that way

middle body pic seems too wobbly, avoid that, make strokes that are just a tad bit firmer as you did in majority of the panel
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>>91852600
Dude, just look up Bill Nye.

He's got a show on Comedy Central so it's gotta be funny and apolitical
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>>91852559
>not liking short hair on women
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>>91852891
There's too short

And there's also "the barber got drunk and passed out midway through shaving your head"
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>>91852083
It's because, physiologicslly, your brain perceives time much faster as an adult than when you're a kid still developing your brain. And it's only going to get worse and worse from here on out. You'll have time to go through the entirety of star trek, all of the series, and not feel a god damn thing because it passed by so fast. Eventually it'll seep out into your real life where one day you're an adult, and the next you're elderly and you legitimately don't know where the time went.
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>>91852777
Oh wait, it's Netflix. Weird. Why did I think Comedy Central? Not being cheeky here either
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>>91852703
thank you very much. I'll probably work more on this tomorrow, I'm using these little fan fics of mine to work on all the things I'd like to do on my OC.

I made a wolverine comic as well, pic related is page one. i can dig up the imgur if you like or unload here. you can also decline politely or not lol.
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I kind of want to make a blog comic about telling your inner demons to fuck off and give advice on how to exercise and how to make yourself more socially capable and how to improve yourself without being preachy about it.

At the same time I suspect that a comic like that might actually legitimately make people mad one way or another.
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>>91850887
Because its easy. Instead of actually putting effort into the creation of a world, characters, and ongoing story, its simpler to just look at a thing that happened last week and go "let's make that funny" because chances are that the same thing happened to someone else. You don't have to make a character or even really make a design because the character is you. You don't have to make a story because life made the story for you. All you have to do is spin in it a slightly sarcastic and/or over the top way and boom, done. Its the easiest way of doing comics so of course its the most prolific form of webcomics, which are typically created by complete beginners at worst and industry amateurs at the best.

That and its trendy to be a depressed and unmotivated artist now.
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>>91851787
Also don't fall under the trap of listening to a small group of fanboys who say everything you do is perfect or else your art will stagnate horribly.
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>>91850887
do you know how many movies and books and songs are about the artist's depression?

here's a hint: IT'S A FUCKING LOT
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>>91853234
Your art has improved. That is good.
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>>91853234
feel free to unload it or link to imgur, whatever i mean, i guess it is the thread about it. i like the movement and the figure but you need to provide much more detailed sense of place with these shots, it seems cramped.
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>>91853152
>tfw old people exist in liminal time
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>>91853301
It could work, but most of the time they don't want a solution, or if they did want one, people are different and there's no one perfect solution. They just want something to relate to them and their situation.
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>>91853301
For trolling purposes it could be funny, but I can't see how it would be too interesting other than that. Just guides to adulting or something? Not meaning to doubt you, senpai, but you'd have to be pretty clever and witty to make that come off as something other than dead boring or preachy.
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>>91853152
You know what the solution to this shit is? You gotta get addicted to drugs, but then only do them once a month. Then the other 29 days inch by agonizingly slowly as you wait out the time before the next big hit.
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>>91853198
No that's the jewish comedian with the new show called Problematic who's on comedy central.
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>>91852891
only certain women can pull it off
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>>91853527
i think you might be onto something!
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>>91853573
Does he claim to be a white man?
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>>91853405
thank you, been working on it. not improving enough I feel.

>>91853406
that's going to be a problem with these lol. That's something I'll make sure to keep in mind going forward though, thank you!
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>>91853600
found the link, I don't want to shit up the thread so here's the rest.

http://imgur.com/gallery/bJdY4
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>>91853595
Aint even fucking with ya I've been abusing prescription meds since I was 16.
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the authors are too depressed and unmotivated to make something more original
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>>91853600
>>91853626
That's almost as good as Marvel's official art. It just needs thinner lines so you can fit in more detail.
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>>91852311
You are not stupid.
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>>91853441
I want to fuck that autist
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>>91853496
I guess maybe the art could be a selling point, like instead of some doodley cute comic it's this extreme masculine thing with rocky vibes of self improvement and hard work.

Make the comic less about being relatable in mediocrity as much as a punk rock ish feeling of anger and energy. Make it about identifying the self destructive stuff people do and make some commentary on how our society and peers prey on those weaknesses while having an avatar that works up from being a hyper omega to a hyper Chad or something.

Make things obfuscated by society into more pragmatic goals, make emotions not into something thst dominates you, but something you can understand and Influence biologically. Give people hard facts , share why old traditional wisdom actually is practical.

Basically make it one giant motivational speech.

Question is what to avoid to not make it an annoying preach fest
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>>91850887
Normies can relate to it.
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>>91850887
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>>91850887

i dunno, that why i haven't done a webcomic
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>>91853779
Few more years I'll be able to draw Hellcat!
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>>91850887
It's called humblebragging; you bitch about how awful your life is publicly for social capital

We live in a social media hell where anyone who would brag about their privileges (monetary or social, whether or not the person earned them or not) would get torn in half because they didn't remember how there are starving children in Africa

So you brag about how shit your life is for sympathy
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>>91853441
This comic is true. Like a good quarter of autistic girls are fucking hot. That peanut butter girl for example.
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>>91850887
Its a fucking trend right now, these people dont know what depression is and they never will
>DUDE IM SO DEPRESSED RIGHT NOW LOL KMS DESU SENPAI
ugh.
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>>91855235
I don't get it
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>>91853368
True, but we have to start blaming "This Generation" because blaming others is a fun as hell past time and we have to blame them for something.

But yeah, this shit's been going on for centuries, blaming the younger generation for actions that's been going on for decades.
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>>91850887
You make this thread like every week.
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>>91850887
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Because this generation has it worse off economically than the previous ones.
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>>91856233
Bullshit, the fuckers in the great depression invented cartoons, the fuck do these kids have to complain about?
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>>91856360
being misgendered
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>>91851585
>Because adulting is hard
Do people actually believe this? Or have they never even fucking tried to "be an adult"? Most of the people who whine about this shit aren't parents living on limited income trying to feed a family or seniors struggling to pay their bills. They're usually 20-something year olds where the only real financial stress they have is maybe paying off their college loans. And even then, there are so many plans now and so many ways to work it out for people who are struggling financially, it's still way less stressful than someone paying off a mortgage.

Doing your taxes is fucking cake walk now-a-days. Not only are all your bank statements saved digitally, every single question is available online and Quicken pretty much walks you step-by-step on every single thing you need. The damn program has big red X and checkmarks if you did something wrong.

You can call an Uber at any time if you're late for an appointment, don't even have to worry about owning a car anymore if you choose that life style. If you struggle to cook and don't want to crack open a cook book like an old person, you can just look up any recipe online. Fuck, the internet has made life so goddamn easy and convenient, there have been times for job interviews I lied about knowing the company's history that I got callbacks from and did research on the ride over.

People who struggle to fake it 'till they make it in today's world aren't "struggling adutls" they're just downright retarded.
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>>91855235
I like the porn version.
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>>91856481
They were raised in the most privileged time in the history of the human race. Even a fucking foodstamper on welfare has it better than the majority of human beings that have ever lived ever

Of course growing up and adulting is the most difficult challenge ever because there are no challenges anymore
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>>91853441
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>>91850975
>tfw you're trying to worldbuild a in-depth comic that does more than juts slice-of-life blogging to defer your own inevitable suicide but you can't stop incorporating "realism" that steers things in a direction where you want to impose an ersatz nuclear holocaust just to liberate your characters from the place you're creating.
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>>91851753
>if you hate capitalism you must be a communist, it's a binary choice!
kill yourself.
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>>91853687
Somebody should write a book about this shit. Or an animated movie. Unless they did, but it's obscure as shit.
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>>91850887

Pretty much this >>91850916

He even talked about this on his blog recently
http://owlturdcomix.tumblr.com/post/157932632939/hey-i-kinda-miss-your-old-style-like-without-the
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>now
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>>91850887
It's because comics are hard to write.
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>>91850887
Its the easiest to write. Also, cannot wait for that Tumblr artstyle to die.
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>>91852490
Is it bad that I learned about Sarah through the /pol/ edits and the rule 34? I became a fan through that.
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>>91850887
I look at it as a form of ideological subversion that a lot of media platforms seem to put forward right now.
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>>91850887
because its easy
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>>91853441
i've never seen an autistic person that gave me a boner before, this is great
besides cwc of course
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>>91858335
This would be a lot more funny if the last panel didn't have any text desu
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>>91856481
>People who struggle to fake it 'till they make it in today's world aren't "struggling adutls" they're just downright retarded.
This is my secret fear, lately.
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>>91856013
While it's true it's been going on since the dawn of recorded history, at least that shit had some effort put into it. I mean, even pedantic purple prose is more effort than these comics.
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>>91852587
>>91852600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wllc5gSc-N8

All fucks I might have had about Bill are GONE.
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>>91858832
Do you ever get the feeling that people around you are so thick headed that they might genuinely be playing dumb for some reason?
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>>91850887
no one will read your shit more than 1 strip unless its really funny or really well drawn.

if you can barely do both, you can hope to hit it big by drawing funny faces under the guise of simple plotlines like relatability
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>>91856481
>Doing your taxes is fucking cake walk now-a-days.

It's not so easy anywhere, it depends on the country.
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>>91853814
you've pretty much described one punch man
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If you make your hobby your job, eventually you'll hate both.
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>>91858335
>Here are interests that defined me as a cartoonist, that nobody knows or cares about at this point:

>- Asian Horror and Korean Noir

>- Used Experience/ User Interface Design

>- Philosophy, esp. Buddhism

>- Rap

>- Indie Games, esp. narrative ones, and retro games

>These things used to show up regularly in my comics, but they don’t anymore. Even the slightest step outside of VERY common knowledge/understanding gets so very, very severely punished that I cringe at the thought of it. Punished in terms of comic “reach” I mean, which is just means popularity.

>At the same time, I have this dangling carrot of a thought in front of me: with enough finesse, maybe I can make comics that are both interesting and successful. Maybe it’s just a lack of skill that’s holding me back from persuading an audience to follow me into weird/”not common interest/knowledge” territory, and I just need to get better. Or, alternatively, maybe I can make these comics that get me a massive audience, and THEN see how many of them stick around for the weird stuff. Or do both at the same time, even though I’d just be lying to myself if I pretended that there’s ever enough time for that.

>Been trying to find some way lately, out of this box that I’m in.

Fuck, now I actually feel bad for the guy.
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How does Awkward Zombie fucking do it?
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>>91859151
wacky faces
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>>91859193

Sounds right
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>>91852174
>Being an ugly fuck on the beach

>Being an ugly fuck on your couch

Who cares just hang yourself.
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>>91850887

Because millennials by in large are quite literally weaklings who lack both conviction, work ethic and vision. On top of this, there is an unfulfilled superiority complex and a hungering need for true validation. Everyone wants the world handed to them on a plate, and to be recognized for being a fucking special snowflake. But they don't actually want to take the effort to be original or go out of their comfort zones. They don't actually want to spend the blood, sweat and tears to realize a vision for themselves and others. The don't have the discipline or the willpower to become self-realized human beings or adults; hence they cling to childish things. Which is why comic book related media and reboots for franchises which are primarily made for consumption by kids is suddenly being marketed to them. What we perceive as creative bankruptcy is really nothing more than a clever marketing ploy to make money at the expense of a generation whose maturity has been effectively stunted.

Hence so many "LOL SO FUNNY LOOK AT ME AND MY STRUGGLE WITH FINDING BASIC WILLPOWER AND CAN'T REALLY FIND ANY REASON TO LIVE BUT I'M TOO MUCH OF A CHICKENSHIT TO ACTUALLY END IT"

It doesn't matter if they're a pink-haired tumblr feminist hambeast screeching at the patriarchy or the raving alt-right /pol/lack who blames the jews for his shortcomings. Its all the same damn thing. Its the millennial who after all of his hard work in college complains at having to do entry level work for McDonalds instead of seeing it as an experience for learning, humility or growth.

Don't deny it. You know its true. Otherwise, you wouldn't be here.
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>>91859220

>mfw all of this is true
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>>91859220

Nice pasta, faggot.
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>>91858935
In America if you're young and single, it's really easy. You skip like, 85% of the asked questions and just put in your income really and it's good to go (Which most of the people who joke about being bad adults are). Assuming you have Quicken of course, which there's no reason not to. You can connect it to your bank, it auto-sends the forms to the IRS.

A W4 and 1099 form is almost all you'll need if you're a 20-something year old doing taxes, and those are given to you by your employers. You really aren't doing much but punching in numbers. And shit, if you ever get lost, just Google it up, they have every available form listing online.

"college form taxes" = 1098-T as first result.
"parent form taxes" = 8332 form
"small business form taxes" = asks you further questions on the partnership and gives you the correct form accordingly.

So yeah, for young adult Americans, it should be a walk in the park. But you wouldn't believe how many are completely baffled by it and almost proud of their ignorance as a result.
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>>91859220

t. boomer
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>>91859193
show me your wackiest faces
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>>91859220
>blaming individuals instead of the structures that create them
You want some numbers? I've got some fun numbers for you.
In 1974, unemployment in the UK was considered a serious political concern - the Labour party won the election with a series of campaign posters that read "There are now one million good reasons to vote Labour - the unemployed."

Unemployment in the UK is presently 1.5 million people, and this is celebrated as low - the lowest figure since 1975, indeed. i.e. lower than during the boom times in the early-2000s too. (For reference, UK population grew 14% during this time while unemployment has been at least 50%.)

Then pile on top of this the amount precarious, low-hours non-jobs that people are forced into and it's no wonder they never "grow up" into real adults with steady careers and children of their own - the option simply doesn't exist for them, stability has been sucked away by structural changes in the economy.

Yet we're still told to build our self image, our value, our contribution to society etc in terms of what job we do. Why the fuck would you feel proud of yourself for working in McDonalds, knowing the best you can do is hold that job in the face of automation? The best you can do is try to drown out the pain with consumption and SSRIs.

There's no moving beyond McDonalds for these people, except perhaps into the kafkaesque welfare system. It's called a labour surplus, and it's an ugly situation.
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>>91850916
I'm an artist and I don't find it relatable at all. Just sit down and do your art faggot. It's not hard.
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>>91859386
t. commie
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>>91850887
I hate this shit so much. It's yet another mopey, whiney artists blog that hides his existential depression behind cutesy, funny art. It's not creative and is plain lazy to churn that drivel out. It sickens me that the majority just eats this shit up too.
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>>91859449
If I was a commie I'd consider it a beautiful situation because it would probably lead to revolution on their terms.

I don't even sympathise with Labour (it's a total indictment of them that even during the boom years before 2008, unemployment was higher than it is now, although to be fair governments of all parties have been fiddling the figures.), it's just a useful illustration of how perceptions on unemployment have changed while the underlying situation has actually worsened.
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I don't get these comics. I don't relate to them. I moved out of home at 19 and had a bunch of jobs for years before that.I'm 22 now and I've been doing just fine. Being an adult isn't difficult. I go to work, I come home and do whatever I need to do and then do whatever I want. Weekends, I do whatever I need to do and then do whatever I want to do. Why do people make out that being an adult is difficult? You move forward from shit and don't be a fucking baby about it.
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>>91859372
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>>91850887
Don't forget lack of social and romantic skills, a lot of self loath and pity, and the ability to rehash old memes without being akward
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>>91852083
>>91853152
This guy is probably fucking 20. Fuck this doom and gloom mentality. You've just overloaded yourself and need a detox, being young today and growing up with all this shit burning you out and the fucking internet has made people grow up a lot faster than they should of and faster than their brains can comprehend, it makes you way more critical of yourself, others and the world around you more than you should be at a young age; it's all why there's so many depressed young people and why all these stupid webcomics exist. If you're going to sit around deconstructing things you haven't lived through and just viewed on paper then of course you're going to be miserable and everything going to feel predictable.. Chill the fuck out, stop thinking and get offline or turn off the TV for a while before you give yourself fucking early onset Alzheimers. And if you don't want to do that, then fine, go your own way but just don't make a fucking webcomic about it.
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>>91853301
Cute. I like you, anon. Try not to make it boring though.
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>>91859193
Of course. It's a visual medium. At least make visual humor. Otherwise the joke is just as good written.
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>>91859220
>They don't actually want to spend the blood, sweat and tears to realize a vision for themselves and others

The youth of today are too woke.
There's hardly any noble fights to them anymore. They've grown up in a world where they've been told that cops are racist pigs and the war on drugs does more harm than good, they've grown up without the fear of God hanging over their heads, soldiers are fighting pointless wars created for the sole purpose of war profiteering and oil, the working class are either underpaid or stupid and are just pawns to better the rich while living lives devoid of satisfaction themselves, the earth is fucking dying and no one over the age of 30 gives a fuck, the dream of getting older, settling down with a wife and some kids is either viewed as unattainable or empty to them, everything's pointless, they're paranoid to shit of inadvertently becoming part of the rat race like their parents and if they're born poor they're probably going to stay poor. Blame it on the over-saturation of information they've grown up with, blame it on all the fictional fantasy shit they grew up with on TV and in books and comics that they know they will never be able to attain, blame it on money, blame it on whatever the fuck you want but it doesn't come down to just being a pussy, these kids don't fucking have any purpose and it's really not their fault.

I don't know how to fix it but that's just the way it is.
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>>91860009
I'm sorry, this is different from the 70's and onward how?
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>>91850887
just ignore them if they're annoying.
Try these instead:
-Gunnerkrigg Court, urban fantasy
-Octopus Pie, slice of life, ending, some hipster characters depressing
-Scurry, survival without humans
-Derelict, survival sci fi
-The Property of Hate, unconventional hero
-All John Allison's works: Scary Go Round, new Bobbins, Bad Machinery, Giant Days (original on web now in print)
-Kill Six Billion Demons, world building
-Christopher Baldwin's works in part, especially Space Trawler
-Widdershins, pre-Victorian light magic
-Girls with Slingshots, fun characters, undemanding plot
-The Non-adventures of Wonderella, gag-a-week
-Oglaf, NSFW gag-a-week
-Ava's Demon, for the art but writing problematic
-Monster Pulse, wasn't interested at first
-The Bouletcorp, journal comic short form, different topic each update
-Whomp, depression, more gag-a-day than story, has fun lore
-Mare Internum, sci-fi on Mars, variable art
-Gaia online, magic fantasy, not for all tastes
-Girl Genius, started well, lost me some years back
-Blindsprings
-Jesus & Mo, criticism of religious dogma
-Wondermark,
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>>91860243
part 2
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>>91860069
It's much more prevalent and accepted by the majority instead of just stinky hippies being stinky hippies or whatever than before.
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>>91852101
If the farm industry is so inefficient and useless that competing with them yourself at that scale is economical then they deserve everything they get.
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>>91853600
I dunno if you're still here, but I guarantee you the most prolific and legendary people in every field and medium felt that they weren't improving enough at one point. You just need to keep at it and keep finding ways to improve. Draw every single day even if it's just a pointless doodle, and look up tutorials and use references whenever you can. You won't be making masterpieces overnight, but if you keep at it, you'll definitely be making progress, even if it doesn't seem like it at the time. I believe in you, Anon.
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>>91860304
Now they're just called social justice warriors. It's not any more "acceptable" than it was before. There were always news outlets taking advantage of baiting headlines, pushing for liberal agendas, white people being offended on minorities behalves, people talking about the importance of so-and-so because they're a lesbian or tranny or whatever. And just like the 70's, they're the loud minority.

If they weren't, Trump would not have won while holding up the image of "Retaliation against over saturation of PC culture". Just because you're way more exposed to it thanks to social media and online news doing clickbait shit with "BEAUTY AND THE BEAST HAS A GAY LEFOU!" doesn't mean that's how the country's population actually acts outside of two major cities. It just means everyone's trying to get a pat on the back thanks to the internet boom of attention whoring and ad-revenue.

I mean shit, All in the Family is still insanely relevant to a T to this day.
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>>91850887
It's easy to do.
Look at the one you've posted, it required no original thought and minimal effort, and the message of it is literally that the author is lazy.
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>>91851787
>Make more every day until your artistic idols are your colleagues.
that is actually quite inspirational. Gonna keep it, thanks anon
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>>91851787
You are a good man, sir.
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>>91860243
Who's the lady on the paper in panel 8?
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>>91852474
>Also making fun of how hard exercise is
But it's not? It's just time consuming.
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Western culture is in a death spiral, anon.
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>>91860874
>time consuming
>a single hour every other day
>where you can just catch up on videos and podcasts and news and whatever that would have taken much more of your time otherwise
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>>91850975
Came here to post this.
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>>91860952
I meant to say that it's more time consuming than it is hard.
I can do other shit while having a podcast or video in the background. I can't do the same with exercise because I would either stop paying attention and start half assing it or I would literally have my hands and body occupy.
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>>91860009
Pretty much. The Internet has showed us the viewpoints of more people than just ourselves, and show that the noble lifestyle we used to think was attainable just isn't as much of a reality. Why bother playing if the odds will always be stacked against you and you're the first one who will be blamed if the game goes wrong?
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>>91853441
I actually know how this comic feels. When I talk or meet someone irl, no one really can tell that I have aspergers. Just that I'm a quiet person that keeps to himself playing vidya. Only when I mention it do they go "oh wow really? I didn't know that".
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>>91856481
I mean it's not like I've been trying to get my first job for over 7 years now. I'm not even joking with that. How do I get a fucking entry level job, if I have no experience, and no one I apply to ever bothers to call or email back?
I'm going to have to apply for disability soon since cashing in on my Aspergers would = me surviving and not living the rest of my life on the street.
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>>91859534
is this loss
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>>91851753
Because that's literally what Marxism is about: you're either with the proletariat or with the bourgeoisie.
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>>91860758
Marine Le Pen, aka French Trump.
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>>91861505
Don't feel bad anon. It's just another edgy rant, where someone who got everything in life easy-ish wonders why some people have difficulty and tells them not to complain, packaged as a motivational.
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It's part of the crisis of personal responsibility in our society, of which cartoons like Steven Universe - which tell you that it's fine to be a failed, fat and immature loser - are both a symptom and an instigator.
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>>91851662
First off:
What's with the inverted word balloons? I mean I know who's talking by process of elimination but they're still very confusing.
Second off: Switch the art for panels 2 and 3. It's confusing to have it turn 180 degrees and then turn 90 degrees back the way we came. Remember, the line of action isn't just a movie thing, it's a visual thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9xD_YYZrbA

And third off: I have no Idea what batman is doing in the middle panels.
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>>91861569
Thanks anon. I was gonna add (didn't because I didn't want to blogpost but fug it), that I've kinda in a rut over getting disability because I feel like I would be missing out on chancing to get a higher life quality, or getting somewhere in the world where I could leave my mark.

I would have to miss out on all of that just to become another unimpressive spec of dust on this planet, living my life on government money, and maybe working part-time at a job that Government helped me get (I think they do that I hope), and occasionally, I'll stop and wonder what could have been.
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>>91861505
>>91861569

Struggling to get a job =/= as people who make jokes about "rofl being adult is hard! amirite?".

People who have to search up resumes online because they aren't familiar enough to know how to make their own are the kind of pathetic people who make jokes about how severely inexperienced and ignorant they are on the basics of adulthood.
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>>91860243
>that Drumpf
lol he even gave him tiny hands
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>>91851662
did the background take a vacation in panels 4-6 or was it it couldnt handle the cringe?
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>>91861641
Well getting a job is part of being an adult right? What does it mean if I spend almost a decade struggling to get my FIRST job?
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>>91850887
So you don't have the motivation to do work, but you have the motivation to churn these shit-comics?
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>>91853441
thats completely fair statement, autism by itself is pretty meaningless when some people are perfectly fine and other people throw themselves at the ground and hit themselves.
You cant expect me to hear autism and know what you are talking about
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>>91860243
Ok, enlighten me here. How is Le Pen even bad enough to be compared to Trump?
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>>91861707
>What does it mean if I spend almost a decade struggling to get my FIRST job?
You've gotten a decades worth of experience about trying to find a job.
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>>91861684
ok, you did your thing, you can go now.
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>>91861707
That means the system is fucked, not that you don't know HOW to get a job. You understand job interviews, resumes, how to search around for places that are hiring. Even though you've never gotten a pay check, I assume you most likely know how to write a check yourself at the age of 24+. There are a lot of people in their 20's who legitimately don't because they've rarely done it and then make quirky comics about as if they're proud of it.
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>>91861775
If you're implying there's alot of ways to get one, you're wrong. I either applied online, which most chain places outright DEMAND that you do, or cold called all the possible places in my area. No I can't go out of city (Chicago).
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>>91861830
You do what every other young adult has been forced to do in your situation: Go to college. Use it to get connections and that degree puts a slight boost in you getting a job.

And that's why so many fucking people are in debt before they hit 21.
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>>91861817
Who the hell uses checks these days?
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>>91861882
Case in point.
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>>91861812
what?
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>>91861817
>I assume you most likely know how to write a check yourself at the age of 24+. There are a lot of people in their 20's who legitimately don't because they've rarely done it
Nope that's me. I've NEVER come into a situation where a check is needed. But no I agree, I'm doing everything right and stuff, It's just a shitty system. Is Affirmative Action also to blame? I mean I'm a white guy living in CHICAGO for christ sake.
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>>91861913
you did your thing, you posted drumpf, you got your reply. You can go now
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>>91861852
>Go to college.
You're implying I have the money or know how to get the money for that shit WITHOUT having to take a loan. My family is still paying for my sister's loan to a big name college that she dropped out of, she's finishing her last two years at some other not big name college. How am I supposed to pay for that shit? Especially when the financial aid told me that my father "makes too much" as a truck repairman.
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>>91861917
Businesses that don't want to spend money on training.
Older workers who won't retire.
College graduates getting priority because a degree = experience in the eyes of some employers.
Too much competition to stand out in.
Some people cutting through the competition with connections.

>>91861945
>You're implying I have the money or know how to get the money for that shit WITHOUT having to take a loan.
Now you're understanding modern America.
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>>91861925
Are you really THAT sensitive to your God Emperor being made fun of? Just hide the post you don't like nigga.
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>>91851587
>over the years

Seems like it's been around over a decade now especially around artist circles like on DA.
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>>91861641

>People who have to search up resumes online because they aren't familiar enough to know how to make their own are the kind of pathetic people

What? Were you born knowing how to write a resume?
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>>91861912
As a cashier from a well known and modern grocery store in my state, there are very few people that give me checks to process, even during a nine hour shift. Seriously, I'll maybe process seven of them, if I get that lucky. Checks aren't used that often.
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>>91861505
>been trying to get my first job for over 7 years now
What kind of jobs have you been aiming at? Have you been skipping the job offers that don't seem ambitious enough for you (McDonalds, retail clerk, janitor, etc), or have you tried to apply for those as well but still been unable to get any kind of job at all? Just curious about how bad the job situation is around your area.
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>>91850887
Because writing an actual story with an interesting plot and likable characters is infinitely more work for ultimately the same amount of upvotes or whatever the (you)'s of the website they frequent are.
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>>91861952
All those things and more. Exactly why I can't get a fucking burger flipping job at a fucking Wendys. Might as well accept that I'm going to live on disability and look into Hedonism maybe? Can't spend the rest of my life being down and glum right? I mean I gave it my all for 7 years.
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>>91861817
>implying you can have a but that firm and legs that shapely without working out
Delusional
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>>91861963
The males in the background should have dark skin and fuck whyt pipol shirts
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It's mostly because most millenials are manic depressives that are discovering that "being whatever you want to be" has consequences.

Which is also why so many of them become obsessive about shit like harry potter, star wars, or gender theory, because being "educated" about made up fictional bullshit is the closest they can come to feeling smart.
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>>91861963
ok buddy im not looking for a fight ok? haha put those memes down
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>>91861633

Working an average job isn't going to "leave a mark" in the world, so don't feel too bad about it. Consider yourself lucky you can free money just for being born with issues.
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>>91854478
This
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Itt Reeeee millenials
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>>91861975
Just because your grocery store job doesn't use checks doesn't mean a shit ton of other jobs don't as well.

It's like saying faxes are rarely used because you work at McDonalds.
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>>91850887
Don't most of these comics kind of trivialize depression? They make it seem like its not so bad, or even just a normal state to be in
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>>91859105
>College Humor
It's shit

Color me surprised
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>>91861985
You maybe missed the part were I said my FIRST job. Like first job ever! I have no resume because I have nothing to put in it.

As for what I've been aiming for, just any place that could have an open position for an entry-level without needing a college degree or 10 years of box moving or shit like that.
>Have you been skipping job offers
What job offers? I apply most of the time and they never contact me back.
>Have you tried to apply for any position as well but still been unable to get any kind of job at all?
Yes. Very sadly yes. Aside from the system me and other anon mentioned, I have NO idea what these places don't like about me. They won't tell me. They'll just accept my application, I'll wait vigorously for a call, or a email, and it'll never happen at all. I'm doing everything and anything aside from outright going to a McDonald and begging/groveling for a job.

I don't know if it's the system, or the system and also the fact that living in Chicago as a white man means competing with Affirmative Action demanding everyone else goes in front of me (Though maybe I'm wrong, I don't know). I just have no answer as to why no one ever considers a fat white 23 year old man for getting just A job, any job. Just something to give me experience so I can get my first foot out there on the path to a glorious career.
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>>91862032
>I want to highjack that meme to reinforce my confirmation bias
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>>91862127
>statistics don't matter if you're aware of them
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>>91862090
As a cashier (you know, a person that deals with all types of monetary transactions day in and day out) you see what people do with how they use their money. Checks aren't used that often, it's mostly credit/debit cards.
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>>91862127
your new is showing
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>>91862067
Well far as I know, getting that McDonald Burger flipping job is getting experience. Experience that helps me get a better job, and so on and so forth, as well as money to save to go towards paying off like a trade school.

Getting my first job in my eyes, is the first step towards getting a job that has great pay, and would allow me to live a really cozy life.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the idea of disability, I'd happily take it over being a bum on the street. But I feel like I'm missing out on something, no matter how bad or average folks make it sound.
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>>91862115
>10 years of box moving or shit like that.
My friend does that, he makes ten dollars an hour.

You may need to buck up and start getting the menial shit, if you want experience and at least something to add on a resume. It sucks ass, but you need to at least add something on it, hell even something in retail for a year is better than having no experience.
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>>91862156
Too bad, this isn't your hug box, don't be surprised when folks aren't welcoming to people acting like /pol/tards.
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>>91862151
Do you get paid via check? Then people still use fucking checks. Who is this fucking dense to think that checks are somehow an antiquated form of transaction.
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>>91862171
That's the thing. Retail doesn't even fucking call me back. I've applied to those places as well, same fucking shit where nobody calls or emails me back.
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>>91862178
>folks
hello tumblr
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>>91853573
Moshe something right?
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>>91862127
1 the meme is already hijacked, it was originally about atheists
2 you can't hijack a meme you dip
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>>91862178
>hug box
In what way is a forum with extremely lax bans considered a hug box?
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>>91850975

Now that would be a web comic, a daily musing on how and why to fucking kill yourself
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>>91852269
>What's considered "quality" now wouldn't have merited a second glance in the early 2000s.
What was considered "quality" back then wouldn't have merited a second glance today.
>lol nigga what is this shit you're trying to pitch? a samurai sent into the future fighting an evil overlord? do you realize how CLICHED that is? no DECONSTRUCTION? no LORE? no PROGRESSIVENESS? no CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT? no STORY ARCS? holy fuck this looks like kiddie shit only a 5 year old would enjoy, with flashing colours and random characters fighting. kill yourself.
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>>91852037
I've been trying to find the animation of your image for a while but couldn't remember enough to actually succeed.

Do you know the source?
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>>91858647
It's bad that you became a fan of her comics period.
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>>91862261
'the reward' for your curiosity is a hint at the name of the animation.
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>>91861505
>7 plus years trying to get an entry level

Just

Just go to a temp agency.
Look up wanted ads in the paper and call.
Go apply online to whatever nearby fast food joint is available

I moved to this country last year without a high school education and managed to get a job after a couple of weeks, what the fuck, dude? Are you legitimately retarded? There's literally jobs fucking everywhere, just lower your standards and work at some commercial level place instead of expecting some office job right off the bat.

Shit, nigga, go work at a fucking call center, those places literally hire 24/7 because the amount of people willing to stay and work in those places that are actually still legitimately important for legal shit on top of commercial shit, is really fucking low.
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>>91862317

>there's literally jobs fucking everywhere
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>>91852474
>but only so long as you talk about your 'crippling depression' or your 'social anxiety'.
Does 'overthinking everything ever' fit into the same category?
Maybe I should start making webcomics, then I will finally find a place where I won't be considered a party pooping hair-splitter...
But then again once I get to know the people of the community I will probably regret this as I don't think they are very pleasant people to talk to, otherwise they wouldn't be doing this...
Plus I don't think I'll be able to make webcomic for my entire life and I can imagine being at my 40s and looking back at my life and realizing I've been drawing shitty webcomics all this time about how it's hard for me to stop overanalyzing stuff and just do something without worrying about its consequences, while other people actually got something done and achieved success.
Plus I don't think I'll be able to kill myself, I've always thought of this as the last resort of the weak, but it's easy to think that way when you've never been in situations that they've been in...
The world is too complicated for me...
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>>91862284
>Spoon-feeding Tumblr
It's like you enjoy eating shit on your cereal
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>>91862317
I've applied for dozens of call centres and they always pick the people with previous call centre experience
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>>91862317
>Temp Agency
I tried that, same shit, everyone wants a person with some experience, and I ain't got none. Best I could find was one position for mailroom clerk, and STILL got nothing back on it.
>Wanted Ads
What wanted ads? that page is small as shit, and filled with ads too far away for me to do. I ain't going all the way to North Chicago.
>Go apply online to whatever fast food joint is available
You missed out on me and other anons talking about that bit. I have tried, and I still get nothing back.

I've literallry cold called every single buisness that might accept me, and it was either no positions, I needed to be a driver (in Chicago so fuck that), or some foreign guy saying something in a thick accent before hanging up on me.

You got lucky because you're a foreigner ( no offense), I'm a native American.
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>>91862391
Move somewhere else
Lack of work has been a big reason for migration all across time an it still is
If you can't find any work at all move
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>>91862354
>>91862391

Okay, I'm just legitimately confused. I literally dont go a fucking day without seeing an ad somewhere for a job sure there's a lot of shit you need to go to trade school for that's out of trade he pocture, but entry level jobs are so fucking abundant that now I'm just suspecting there has to be something else going on.

I mean I came from a third world shithole where jobs didn't exist anywhere cause communism so maybe my view of "abundant jobs" is skewed. Maybe (((they))) really do make it harder for americans in trade he heir own country to get a job.

But fuck, dude, why is my experience so fucking different when by all accounts I should be as jobless as you guys?
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>>91853368
Yeah but how many songs are just the artist singing that they can't make anymore songs because they're so depressed?
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>>91862407
Research season jobs and try to find anything like that in your area or the nearest you can find
Seasonal jobs are less strict about who they hire because they are only hiring you for a couple months,also depending on the type of job they want to get a ton of people fast
It's experience and it's a paycheck
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>>91862421
You say that like we can just easily have the money and resources to move to a completely different place with no problem?
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>>91862115
Sorry to hear about your struggles. I asked about what sort of job offers you've gone after because I know that some people have expensive education on a specific area of expertise, so they're not content applying for McDonalds jobs where their education gets wasted. They don't want just any job; they want a job that's good enough for them. So, I was wondering if you were applying for any jobs at all (even the menial shit), or some specific kinds of jobs.

I was in a similar situation some years ago. I had a several years long streak of being a NEET in my resume, and I was older than you at the time. I thought my situation was hopeless. But I applied for some low-wage jobs with not much requirements, managed to get some interviews, and did get a job. I've been working as a cleaner since then (I later found out there was a shortage of cleaners in my area, which probably played a part in how I got an opportunity). It's not glamorous and it's not something that would keep everyone happy, but I'm content enough with it, and it provides me enough money to pay my living without having to seek welfare bucks.

My suggestion is that you could look into whether there are any elderly or disabled people in your area who would like caregivers / personal assistants in their daily tasks at their homes. The work hours and requirements for those kinds of jobs are very flexible and personalized. If you're correct about affirmative action fucking you over in the corporate world, I think trying to get a job working with elderly people could give you a better chance.
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>>91862477
I don't, migration is always extremely though, people migrate out of desperation
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>>91862115
>I have no resume because I have nothing to put in it.

Do volunteer work. Yeah it sucks having to do work without pay but it will do wonders for your resume since you'll not look like a lazy neet anymore.
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>>91851662
I enjoy it. Yeah, it's rough and has plenty of problems, but that's why you keep at it and improve.

There is a severe lack of any kind of creative ambition in the world.

Just trying is already more than most people can say, and while they are critiquing and too scared to make there own. You just keep going and get better and better.
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>>91862537
Employers don't value volunteer work except in extremely rare cases
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>>91855449
hidden gem in this thread
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>>91862454
people with experience, young people who are easily molded into the ideal employee and can be paid less, and immigrants who are more likely to put up with poor working conditions without a complaint all get prioritized over adults with a thin resume

and while I'm speaking in generalities, businesses treat generalities as hard facts because to them data that says 'statistically more likely' reads as 'can be trusted to be the case for sure'
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>>91858752
Right? Way to ruin a decent punchline
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>tfw you got a comfy dream job most people spend years of their life and millions of dollars of college to break into out of sheer luck and knowing the right guy at the right time
>literally doing what's a fun pass time hobby for me as a full time senior job with zero experience and a nice fat paycheck
>get to live in a nice, coastal city in a big nice full mortgage paid house and even got a bank loan to be able to rent out space in a motel to loser kids trying to make it but too poor for a real place
>pretty yummy dividends from stocks as a bonus
>pretty much just working the rest of the year to set up the motel and get a passive income to retire early
>not even 30

FEELS
FUCKING
GOOD
MAN
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>>91859007
That's just depressing.
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>>91862579
Companies want migrants because they can fire them without having much consequences and they can pay them below minimum wage
You can't compete with that with energy and a positive attitude
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>>91862570
I guarantee they'll value it over absolutely nothing especially if it's recent rather than some oneoff thing during high school ages ago. Also depending on the volunteer work it will at least give the anon some experience working with others or tools if someone asks during an interview.
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>>91862634
You can't guarantee shit because you don't employ anyone
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>>91862620
But I went for jobs where they paid me the same as everyone else and we're desperate to keep me on.

Hell the call center place paid me extra for being bilingual even though like 90% of the clients were in English anyway.

The under the table bullshit is for the illegals
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>>91862570
yeah as soon as they notice it was volunteer work they dismiss you as clearly not good enough to get real work elsewhere, so not good enough for them either
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>>91862656
If you were employing people and were stuck between someone with literally nothing and someone with some volunteer work who would you pick? I'm not saying it's going to give them a job but it's at least going to help them out better than having absolutely nothing on their resume.
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>>91853573
>jewish comedian
Why i am not suprised
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>>91862604
>Autist doesn't realize life exists.
>Autist doesn't realize passive income on one property can quickly become a money grub when faggots won't move out
>autist thinks 40K is a fat check

You wouldn't be anonymously bragging to a bunch of tards on 4chan if you had anything worth bragging about. Congrats on the job you don't find insufferable. But your personality more than makes up for it.
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>>91862664
They want ilegals
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>>91859386
>It's called a labour surplus
stop importing people like it was a fucking necessity when it isn't, and you won't have one

christ the british are retarded
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>>91855235
>.01 bitcoins have been subtracted from your account
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>>91860243
>problematic
please kill yourself at the earliest possible opportunity
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>>91862714
It's not just the british. Spics have been claiming the same thing for decades in the USA. "You need labor" no, we need education and jobs. And education isn't 9th grade lit when most of the country needs to learn to code or fix toilets.

The only reason the retards from high school make money on services os because nobody provides them. If more people were electricians and plumbers it would be cheaper.

>inb4 one of those retards responds "Not that retarded now am I?"
You fix what I shit in.
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>>91862688
When you put stuff on your resume other than work experience and education it tends to get overlooked because it's crap nobody cares about
A tipycal job offering gets hundreds of applicants, you are lucky if you make it past a machine and even then the person reading it spends an average of 20 seconds on it before throwing it away
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>>91859105
>try to live a hedonistic lifestyle
>no one wants to partake in it with me
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>>91862771
>when most of the country needs to learn to code
As someone who's been doing that for close to two decades, no they fucking don't but I get your point here
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>>91862604
>out of sheer luck and knowing the right guy at the right time
So you freely admit you don't even deserve credit for your success? What a fag.
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Just do what I do and kill yourself at 25. I've long accepted the fact that I'm probably either going to die a NEET or work a shitty job for the rest of my life all because I didn't fucking do anything after I left high school. I still got 3 years to go so I'm just going to stick around and help pay off my mother's debts.
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>>91862714
Who would have thought that bringing poor people into a country with unemployment was a bad idea?
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>>91862800
>want's to be a slut
>doesn't fuck uggos
>isn't pretty enough to fuck average girls
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>>91859220
I fucking hate my generation so much
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>>91862421
There's no work at all in my country, and no other country is willing to give out a visa to someone with no useful work experience. What do?
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>>91862813
People who aren't named Basil
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>>91862809
Look at Russia, people there learn to code to highjack other computers with ransomware
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>>91862822
dig some dirt and plant a potato.

next year plant two potatos
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>>91862771
>If more people were electricians and plumbers it would be cheaper.
Where I live, even those are deeply oversaturated, or at least it appears so because new grads can very rarely find work in the fields.
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>>91862810
Yes, I'll admit I don't deserve it, but you know what?

I have what I want.

Can you say the same?
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>>91861817
This comic genuinely pisses off my autism
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>>91859292
> I had to read a paragraph, it must be a mee-mee

t. dragondildoer
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>>91862836
I gotta eat for that year, though. What do?
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>>91862812
That's actually a quite popular choice now days.
When there is an epidemic of male suicide among the age demographic that's supposed to be out of college and starting their future you just have to wonder how fucked up everything will be in 50 years
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>>91862831
> most of the country needs to learn to code

work on your reading comprehension
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>>91861817
>a girl trying to do regular push-ups instead of girl push-ups
They're called girl push-ups for a reason.
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>>91862812
>tfw you'll just put her back in debt when she wants to pay for your funeral
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>>91862846
Then rejoice, getting your pipes unclogged AYOOOO will soon be cheaper.

Same though. Many of my friends weren't drop out level in HS which was usually why kids went into a trade or the army or cutting hair. But now even kids that went to college dropped out because it was cheaper to repay one year of loans and become a plumber than the prospect of 100k in debt and no leg up in the job market.
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>>91862812
> kids can just go around doing whatever the fuck, they don't go to school or eventually get jobs and they're automagically paired off with friends
> video game asks you your gender as though you were supposed to be thinking about making a choice

I fucking hate pokemon so much
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>>91862822
If it's really that bad then there is nothing you can do, sorry
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>>91862877
There's always been an epidemic of male suicide, at least compared to female suicide. Nobody has ever cared because men are not only expendable, but also compete with other men to get women.
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>>91862822
Which part of South America are you from, again
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>>91862822
Do you have any skills, anything that could be useful? People can earn a living these days by playing videogames; it seemed like a laughable idea once, but it's reality these days. If you do come up with a business idea, you've got the internet right in front of you, and you have potential customers all over the world. Use your imagination and try to come up with something that people might want to buy.
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>>91862317
>without a high school education
You'd be surprised at how that might have helped you get those shitty entry level jobs. If you advertise that you have a degree when you apply to a simple job, you're just as likely to be passed over because they think that you're "overqualified", more likely to be there short term even if the job is ironically high turnover anyway, or feel entitled to more pay than they think the job is worth.
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>>91862878
When you live in a country we're people are so poor they can't even steal from one another then yeah, learning to code to steal money may be the only solution
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If you can't find a job just go live on a fucking farm.
And I don't mean own one I mean just go sell your shit and move out to the country and work as a farmhand.

That's literally the simplest, most basic function you can do.

And if you can't even do that then just go fucking commit a crime and go live in jail. Hell, aim for something really bad cause the more tight security prisons are pretty much a free ride away from reaponsability.

Charles Manson lived like a fucking prince.
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>>91862891
Deathhack: save money by donating your entire body upon death. Funerals, burials, cremation are vanity.
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>tfw making $20K a year
>tfw feel rich because low cost of living in this area
Poverty line feels pretty good, bra.
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>>91850887
>It's a "/co/ rants about webcomics" episode
>It's a "/co/ doesn't recognise semi-ironic work" episode
>It's a "/co/ whines about 'millenials'" episode
>It's a "/co/ rants about tumblr" episodes
>It's /co/

It's literally fucking harmless. Christ this board is cancer sometimes.
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>>91862926
I've actually tried various options. It takes a serious amount of talent in something like that to even just make a living off it, and sadly I don't seem to have that in anything.
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>>91858734
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>>91861707
>What does it mean if I spend almost a decade struggling to get my FIRST job?
You have shit social skills, no useful experience and/or put off people at interviews.
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>>91861852
I'm in the same position as him with a college degree. In many parts of the country you go flip fries or continue looking for a real job.

He'd be better learning a trade. Now more than ever. Jobs have been consolidated as people die or leave companies so that they remain in the hands of a few people in their 50s and 60s. These people are decades out of touch to the point of being uneducated but for some reason "experience" is valuable. So you get temp positions for college grads that make minimum wage.

And then you have an entire country of people telling you YOU'RE lazy and YOU need to move to find a job or YOU need to apply and follow up more.

Start-up costs vastly outweigh income so the age of "moving" to find work is nearly over without a parental loan. No bank will give you a loan to RENT an apartment with NO job.
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>>91862907
>There has always been an epidemic of male suicide
This is not true at all
>Nobody cares
This is true
Suicide is going to become more and more the norm in the future, people laughed at Futurama suicide booths but how long until assisted suicide becomes a thing in the west really? We know that the countries that do it allow people who are perfectly healthy to do it too
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>>91853441
What the fuck is this shit, girls literally can't be autistic.
>>91861439
Assburgers is a joke diagnosis.
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>>91862950
>It's literally fucking harmless
Encouraging an entire generation to feel good about how fucking useless they are is not harmless. Also, fuck you.
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>>91851900
Yes but sometimes that isn't enough.
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>>91862996
The countries that allow assisted suicide are also generally the countries that actually provide welfare for NEETs. I'm afraid things are gonna get much uglier than even you seem to anticipate.
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>>91862923
I'm from North America, actually.
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>>91862989
>you get temp positions for college grads that make minimum wage
Temping is something most college grads should do and very, very few do. It's a good way to get used to office social skills and expectations, you have the shield of your agency ensuring your duties are what they said they'd be, and there's always the possibility of the temp job offering you a permanent position (which will come at a higher hourly wage). It's job preschool and the only downside is you really need transportation.
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>>91861817
>having an ass like that despite never exercising
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>>91863022

We're either heading towards blade runner or an economic crash so big, on a global scale it's gonna make the great depression look like rainbows and sunshine.
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>>91863041
I can't insult a Mexican who's trying to enter the country legally on a work visa, apologies. If you're a Canadian, fuck you
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>>91863000
>Muh millenials
>Muh 'nobody had mental problems before now'

Recognising you have problems and difficulties is the first step to solving them. Ignoring them does nothing.

Thus, anon, recognise you are cancer, and end yourself.
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>>91863062
I had an actual internship in my field in university. Employers literally could not care less now, since there seem to be no entry-level positions in my field anyways.
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>>91863062

Sadly, a skill (or quality) many high schools and colleges are really failing to cultivate in young men and women is the willingness to dig around and work their way up.

So many people throw their hands up and give up because they only get shitty jobs, but they don't see how everything ties together.
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>>91863088
muh nothing, I'm not a millennial. That's why this pisses me off.

>Recognising you have problems and difficulties is the first step to solving them
Yes but we're now saturated with an internet that's feeding people self-diagnosis of problems they don't actually have.
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>>91861817

>starting in the down position
She was never going to make it.

You start in the 'up' position and lower yourself down, first, then push back up.
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>>91863022
Yes, the same people who get paid to normalize things will also normalize asisted suicide
It will start with a thing only for people with extreme ilness because yeah it makes sense for people in those situations but it will slowly transform into we don't have the right to force peot to stay alive or something like that and eventually it will be perfectly normal for people to get a suicide prescription from the doctor since therapy won't help you when you can't find a job or a single place to fit in
There will be the crazy pro choices and the pro suicide feminists that will shit blood in the door of a church or something, we have already seen this happen
There is such a thing as collective delusion, it affects groups the same way it affects nations, people will justify anything with time, a future when criminals are forcefully suicided isn't that far off, prison is so horrible anyways
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>>91863126
It's like that clipart of the woman using a soldering iron where she's holding it by the metal part instead of the bakelite handle
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>>91863127
I'm saying that most countries will neither legalize assisted suicide nor provide welfare. Suffering is the only option.
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>>91851810
>>91851900
Murrica.
>>91851971
100% agree. But there's a huge amount of older media out there to satisfy people with taste until something good comes out.
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its at the point where the only halfway reliable way to ensure income if you're not already easily employed is to become self-employed selling some kind of service. its why art commissions, etsy craftsmen, patreon game devs, and youtuber entertainers keep growing as a business sector

the pay is birdseed unless you luck out and it'll likely cost you most of your dignity but its better than nothing
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>>91863082
>If you're a Canadian, fuck you
Not that anon, but why? Canada is shit to live in.
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>>91863144

It's bizarre that this is how the world dies, not to nuclear bombs but to people who think exercise is some sort of Sisyphean task and make comics and tell green texts about it when the reality of most things is that you start off REALLY BAD and then you work through that and get better.

I mean, I'm a writer, right? And I'd be legit embarrassed if you saw my first finished manuscript because it's shit, but I wouldn't get better at writing if I didn't write it.
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>>91863062
It's something a current student should do rather than an internship.

The problem is they fill fulltime positions with month long contracts and keep re-upping to keep you at minimum wage as a GRADUATE. That's setting a generation of for financial failure. Blaming them for being stuck in a basement when they have no, literally ZERO, job security past a month or two and a bunch of quick hits on a reusme which future HR people hate to see.

Temp positions are terrible for the employee and great for the agency (who skims half your pay) and for the company who doesn't want to pay for your insurance or benefits.

Plus they can fire you for wearing orange if they don't like the color. And you have NO recourse.
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>>91851708
kind of the worst of the relatable comics. Atleast sarah scribbles and owlturds characters are shot at different angles
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>>91862494
Honestly I'm just happy that people were willing to listen and understand my plight. It makes me feel better about going on Disability, knowing that at least I tried. But reality is on the horizon, I'm going to be 24 this year, and soon I'll be halfway to 30. My parents aren't going to be around forever, I need to be able to survive, and if cashing in on my Assburgers allows me to live a modestly comfortable lifestyle and allow me to eat, sleep in a house, and not die of a horrible sickness, then that's fine with me.

Thank you /co/. You've helped me come to terms with my problem.
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>>91863155
I think society will get more and more nihilistic and depressed, art is a red flag, look at modern art were people get paid for putting their garbage on display and are called artists
They claim it's breaking a taboo because art shount be asthetically or have any meaning or be different in any way to trash
Art has saved the world in the past,look at the Renaissance. And art was the first thing to
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>>91851927
The next B^U:

D^8
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>>91859410
Post your work
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>>91863196
>and a bunch of quick hits on a reusme which future HR people hate to see
Future HR people can fucking deal because that's the norm. Also, I used to write resumes and cover letters for a living and most people do a shit job of this. I had the advantage of a sister-in-law who used to be a headhunter who taught me how to read these and tell qualified applicants from idiots/liars.

>>91863265
You, I like you
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>>91853301
Most people would call you a hack and think you're being a pretentious asshole who says that "depression" is easy to come out of.
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>>91863222
>Honestly I'm just happy that people were willing to listen and understand my plight. It makes me feel better about going on Disability, knowing that at least I tried. But reality is on the horizon, I'm going to be 24 this year, and soon I'll be halfway to 30. My parents aren't going to be around forever, I need to be able to survive, and if cashing in on my Assburgers allows me to live a modestly comfortable lifestyle and allow me to eat, sleep in a house, and not die of a horrible sickness, then that's fine with me.

As someone who's been accused of being on the spectrum myself, I have to point out that you seem remarkably self-aware, literate, and above average in terms of expressing yourself. Just read any current Samurai Jack thread REEEEEing about NOT MUH CHILDHOOD for a quick contrast here.

Not questioning your diagnosis, just curious as to what your challenges are beyond possible sensory issues that prevent you from getting/keeping employment.
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>>91863297

My only regret is that those kind of people will keep themselves 'above the water', by having comradery in how depressed they are, but they won't actually bother to improve themselves.

So they're literally wastes of life.
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>>91852600
>childhood heroes
They're villains now. Maybe they always were. You have to be your own hero.
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>>91853301
>I kind of want to make a blog comic about telling your inner demons to fuck off and give advice on how to exercise and how to make yourself more socially capable and how to improve yourself without being preachy about it.

You're too young to do this. Put the energy into improving yourself as a creator first.
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>>91860952
>Listening to podcasts, the news, and videos while working out
What the fuck is wrong with you? Have you ever learned to do one thing at a time?
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>>91863104
I've worked short-term gigs in between months of unemployment for several years now. It's not fun, but it's literally the only work available where I live as far as I can tell. No "working my way up" here!
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>>91862115
>also the fact that living in Chicago as a white man means competing with Affirmative Action demanding everyone else goes in front of me

Not sure if it helps, but I'm a black person living in a big city (not Chicago though) and I'm going through the same shit. I don't think Affirmative Action makes much of a difference, the problem is that tons of people are looking for work so employers can ignore anyone who isn't the ideal dream candidate. Even shitty jobs get hundreds of applicants. So employers can ignore anyone who isn't completely perfect.

That's why you see ridiculous, unreasonable postings like "entry level position, pays minimum wage; must have three years experience." That's fucking stupid, but someone out there meets that criteria, and people are desperate enough for work that all employers have to do is sit back and wait for that someone to show up. And everyone else is fucked.

I'm sorry I don't have any good advice for you, anon, but know that you're not alone out there.
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>>91863399
Here in Canada, if you're not in an affirmative action group you're pretty much locked out of decent jobs by definition. Most people quality for at least one, though.
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>>91863371
With rare exceptions most creatives you look up to will disappoint you once you get to know them personally. See also: MUH PROBLEMATIC FAVE

Whatever they gave you that made you feel good, take that, don't expect more and remember they're probably every bit as much as an asshole as you and I are. That way when the few gems shine, they shine harder.
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>>91861641
>People are retarded for trying to learn how to make a resume using the Internet
Are you fucking retarded? Is making a resume an in-born ability? What a bunch of morons, amirite? They had to *learn* to do something! They didn't just pull one out of their ass like sophisticated folk.
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Unfortunately, self-employment is the way to go nowadays. I'd rather work 80 hours a week for me than 40 for some one else.
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>>91863455
... assuming you live in the US, that is. Most places don't have enough of a middle class to sell stuff to.
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>>91863265
Why should he? The point wasn't that anon is better than anyone. It was that they should just fucking work.

>>91863281
I know many headhunters. And many HR people. Applicants with a plethora of positions will be the ones "dealing". In five years the people holding multiple job titles will retire and the new grads (from 2020) will be given jobs instead of the 2015 grad who has 8 different 2 month jobs on their resume. Grads from about 2012 to about 2017 are going to be fucked when they're stuck fighting for entry level jobs with kids fresh out of college that have the same level of applicable experience.

This WILL happen. It's not a question of IF but rather WHEN. There are also going to be millions of well educated American men out of work because of a sexist barrier at the entry level which women justify because they have male bosses.
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>>91862115
Late reply, but see if waste management is hiring. They need people, and no one wants to do it because it isn't glamorous. But it pays the bills.
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>>91863427
Was Mr. Rogers the only true hero? I miss that guy.
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>>91863469

I was under the impression that self-employment was punished in most other countries, since socialistic policies tend to discourage competition.
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>>91850887
Literally every comic by this hack
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>>91863496

Depending on what job you land, it might even leave enough for savings and (very modest) luxuries.
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>>91863338
Telling the depressed to better themselves is like telling a legitmate drug addict to better themselves. It's only going to push them further down a hole because no they've been given assurance (since they already thought it) that they are, in fact, useless.
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>>91856481

While it depends, some forms of depression are full-blown structural and chemical problems with the brain and nothing in "life" will make any fucking difference. Notice that I said it depends. Just feeling sad isn't depression, but get into bipolar or major depressive disorder (or schizophrenia etc.) and you get into some fucked up shit that can be physically seen if you cut open your brain. Just like a computer, sometimes people are just broken. Real modern medicine is needed to treat a lot of shit.

For most of human existence, hominids only needed to work a few hours a day and the small, close-knit family group would support disabled members as best they could, which is why you find Homo Erectus skeletons of individuals too fucked up to survive on their own, your society was your family and if they could they would take care of you. Obviously far more died. Today, that's different. We don't have the support system our ancestors and society no longer cares, but medicine and technology have made sick people more likely to simply survive instead of just dying even if it's barely and on the streets. A lot of homeless people are mentally ill.

As for people whining, it depends. Disabled people trying to survive, take care of disabled and sick kids and parents, people living on the streets, people who get cancers and can't work so they can't afford healthcare, there are a million fucking things that can go really wrong that make life hard. Most of the people complaining online aren't talking about this though, but dumb bullshit. However, some of them are mentally ill, and again if your brain doesn't work how hard it really is for you won't have much impact until you die on the streets somewhere.
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>>91863477
>Why should he?
Why should he not? Why should he mention that he's a hard-working artist, but then not bother showing us his work? If you're gonna mention that you work hard at art, at least let us see the art you make.
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>>91863518
Not really, though there may be lots of red tape to clear in some countries (but there is in the US too).
It's really all about getting actual customers, which, outside the huge, homogeneous market of middle class consumers that is the US, is all but impossible for many types of businesses.
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>>91863543

Then they can do the decent thing and kill themselves so they're out of the way and can't pass on their tainted genetics.
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>>91863543
there is absolutely no way to help a depressed person especially if he is right wich is often the case
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>>91860346
Dude thank you so much. I actually really needed that today. I don't know if you're still here but I was and it was worth it. Thank you.

Going to draw my ass off today! And then color it back on.
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>>91863545
depression actually has much more in common with anger than sadness
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>>91863545
Of course, the question is if society should bother to help these mentally ill people, or if it can afford to do so for that matter (and not just monetarily). You'll find that there's quite a political divide there.
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>>91863577
people tend to get a job in the field first to know how everything works and get contacts and then they go self employed after 10-15 years of experience
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>>91861702
I'm not very good at cities, been working on drawing buildings but I figured it was best left out. The writings that bad though? Or is it the art?

>>91861613
Thank you, I'll make a note of these and go back and tweek them/keep them in mind going forward.

The panel 2-3 thing is particularly obvious to me now. Yeesh its bad. Thank you for pointing it out! Thank you for the video as well.
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>>91851662
Your writing is bad.
Your composition is bad.
Your line work is bad.
Your coloring is bad.
Your comic is bad.

Keep making comics. Struggle, squirm, fail and try again. You're putting in effort, and that puts you ahead of a lot of people. Keep going.
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>>91863585

Depressed people shouldn't kill themselves, they should be treated..

They also just should never have any kids ever. Tesla, who was depressed and mentally ill, did not reproduce for this very reason.

We should also focus way more on genetic engineering to totally overhaul and revolutionize the genetic code and no longer rely on evolution, which could probably happen in 2-3 generations if we actually devoted ourself to genetic engineering, maybe sooner. Evolution is chancey at best and takes millions of years, we could do targeted fixes in a lab in a day if we develop our technologies further. That's the real reason eugenics is so stupid, it would take absolutely forever and be so imprecise it's worthless, get in their and fix the actual damn code.
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>>91863696
>Your writing is bad.
Not all that true.

Agreed on the other counts, though.
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>>91863660
How are contacts going to help if nobody buys the shit you make, or nobody pays for your services?
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>>91850887
Lots of depressed people with no motivation because incentives are so low compared to previous generations as a result of a collapsing world economy? Oh and some of them make web comics
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>>91863709
>they should be treated
And who is going to pay for this, may I ask? Many of them don't have any money at all since depression destroys their chances of holding a job.
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>>91863685
>The writings that bad though? Or is it the art?
both things are bad but it makes sense for the art to be bad because you dont have enough practice yet
however batman looks like he is flying around superman style in pannel 6, there is also no consistency between pannels so its like if batman was twiching around in empty space
You should redraw it but this time really think about everything, really try to look and figure what you did wrong, take a really long time and erase and change things as manny times as you can
As a rule you are only truly learning when its hard, keep that in mind
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>>91863751
after 15 years working on a company you should have figured out what to sell and who to sell to thats the point
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>>91863646

The majority of humans actually have what could be classified as a mental illness at some point, so I'd say the answer is definitely. In fact, it's one of the biggest things we could do to actually improve society. I might even be the single biggest thing.

I would say definitely. It impacts the majority of humans. Fix the human brain.

One cheap way to do it is to allow research into psychedelics. In clinical trials some psychedelics show way more efficacy in treating a wide range of issues than any drugs we currently. Some, like mushroom derived compounds, are extremely cheap to make, as well. There is literally no rational reason for the restrictions on research. Economic gains could be in the billions or trillions if the right compounds are isolated since mental and emotional health issues are such a huge drain on the economy everywhere and again, have an impact on the vast majority of humans.
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Why should you be guaranteed comfort, happyness, or even survival?
Society is cruel and sadistic, and nature is evil in comparison.

Either you become an animal that can defend itself or you die a victim.
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>>91853368
Life used to be tough in the old days. You had to actually work to get food. There was legitimate racism, there was legitimate poverty and real issues. There's literally 0 reason to be "depressed" in a modern first world country.
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>>91861439
You sure you have autism? Lots of fake diagnoses these days.
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>>91856481
The mechanics of adulthood are generally really simple, I just struggle to give a fuck about anything anon. Nothing means anything and I'm one of those stupid assholes who gets sad about that.
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>>91863804
The whole idea of the capitalist free market rests on the notion that if there's a profitable niche to be had, somebody has ALREADY taken advantage of it. Economic theories that support capitalism FAIL in the absence of this fundamental axiom. In other words, you're saying that the theory of capitalism is flawed.
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>>91863728
>Narration completely divorced from visuals, lacking even thematic relevance to drawing.
>No sense of voice for Bruce, reads like author instead of character.
>Spends over 3x more text than necessary to explain things due to sloppy composition, extra words don't give character, tone or greater understanding.
>Telling instead of showing in general.

It's bad. Don't pull punches here. They're trying something ambitious so they're not going to nail it on their first try, but the writing is bad.
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>>91863836
Depression is generally a chemical reaction in the brain. It doesn't ask your permission for a "reason".
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>>91863775
>And who is going to pay for this, may I ask?

It's so much cheaper to just address these issues with treatment than to pay for prison, law enforcement, lost productivity, etc

End the drug war and divert prison funds into treatment centers aimed at getting sick people back into the workforce, would be tremendous taxpayer savings. Change disability payments so instead the aim is to get people back to work with accommodations. Take waste from education spending (yes, there is a lot of it) and identify and treat mental health issues early in childhood. Allow research on banned substances that show very cheap treatment promise.
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>>91859007
Does he think he lives in some sort of dictatorship on what he can draw? Begging for pity more likely
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>>91863820
You act as though human societies havnt been building towards survival, comfort, and happiness. Your saying that
>>we can either stop at our currently level of progress
Or
>>we can go back

You exclude the option that we can further those goals

When cynicism blimds you to rational thought its time to take a hard look at yourself, what you want out of life, and what you contribute to it.
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>>91862714
>stop importing people like it was a fucking necessity when it isn't, and you won't have one
You're acting like this is the decision of jobless millenials and not rich boomers
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>>91863906
>It's so much cheaper to just address these issues with treatment than to pay for prison, law enforcement, lost productivity, etc
Even if it's cheaper, which is almost certainly untrue and based on deeply flawed studies, prison and law enforcement doesn't involve fucking handouts. And why should I even care about "lost productivity"? It's not my business.
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>>91863778
I know I keep saying thank you over and over to people but this is huge. So thank you. Generally my shits gotten ignored or if I ask a friend they spare me the rod and hit me with "cool man." Which kinda makes sense if it's terrible. Hard to tell a friend that.

It's good to know what to improve on and I agree, "no pain no gain", I'm not going to get better drawing whats safe or what I'm good at.
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>>91858335
at least he isn't trying to hide the fact that he's making lowest common denominator garbage
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>>91863876
>somebody has ALREADY taken advantage of it
thats the most likely scenario but still there isnt one single caffee in the world and more people know mcdonalds than jesus around the world but there is also burger king and wendys
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>>91863903
I'm talking about "depression" not the real one. You gotta understand context. You think these webcomic artists are actually depressed? No way.
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>>91863968
you shouldnt thank people so much, being a pushover is a bad trait for comic artists.
A good rule for everything is that its easier to see your problems in someone else so try that, list common mistakes new artists do as a chacklist and run it over your work
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>>91852174
funny thing is, he messed up copying his own drawing, look at his left foot in both shots.
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>>91864025
True, don't mean to come off as passive, saying thank you is just that, appreciating the time others have lent me. There was the kid that just listed things and said bad, I didn't thank him.

I greatly appreciate when others not only spend the time to look at the garbage I made but then to tell me how to get better. That's golden, truly awesome, and it deserves a thank you at the very least.
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>>91863953
>Even if it's cheaper, which is almost certainly untrue and based on deeply flawed studies,

All studies done in this area show this; explain how every study done in this field is incorrect and, if so, what indication besides your "gut" indicates that the opposite is somehow true.

>prison and law enforcement doesn't involve fucking handouts.

Ah, but they do. You pay to feed and house prisoners. If they were working jobs and supporting themselves instead of in prison, you would no longer be paying for them, would you?

> And why should I even care about "lost productivity"? It's not my business.

The economic environment of the country in which you live clearly effects everyone, unless you think there's no difference in life in a wealthy country and a poor country. It's in your best interests to see your country prosper economically.

Also, explain why the drug war is not a waste of taxpayer money and why research on cheap psychedelic substances that show great efficacy in clinical trials should be banned.

You just seem to be throwing up your hands and saying we taxpayers should just keep wasting and spending tons of our very own money on the problem by using wasteful "solutions" proven not to work instead of taking practical, simple steps to fix it and pay less.
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>>91862604
and what would that job be exactly?
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>>91862812
You're not fixing a problem by negating a problem. If you really feel that way, no one is making live in and by secular westernized society. Go backpack and do whatever the fuck you want, it's not easy, but it's plausible and a lot better than nothingness.
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>>91864100
*making you live

Sorry English is not my first language
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>>91863500
>Was Mr. Rogers the only true hero

It's more important that he was true.
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>>91863820
We built society in order to attain happiness, comfort, and survival; we're still working on it.
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>>91862812
I cant believe how many bought the myth that if you dont find your path right after highschool your fucked for life. People change careers in their fucking 50s and live another 20 whole years enjoying themselves.
Willie nelson didnt make it until AFTER he was a wrinkled old man.
You arent locked into a job, career, or lifestyle, it can change, hell stick around long enough and its more likely to change then not!
25 is so young when your entire life can change in a day.
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>>91850887
how can someone say your shit is good when you don't think it is?
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>>91864080
>You pay to feed and house prisoners.
But you don't give THEM the money to spend. If you're "treating" them it's kind of unavoidable. Plus it's obviously a punishment, and leaves you with a record.
>It's in your best interests to see your country prosper economically.
Not really, why should I give a shit about how random strangers live? They don't bother me, I don't bother them.
>Also, explain why the drug war is not a waste of taxpayer money
It stops widespread degeneracy. We have more than enough of that as it is, and it's destroyed much of society as we knew it.
>research on cheap psychedelic substances that show great efficacy in clinical trials should be banned.
If it's being banned it's probably been identified as having a significant risk of misuse, so see the previous point.
>You just seem to be throwing up your hands and saying we taxpayers should just keep wasting and spending tons of our very own money on the problem by using wasteful "solutions" proven not to work instead of taking practical, simple steps to fix it and pay less.
Because the solutions we have now are entirely in line with capitalist principles. You're essentially appealing for socialism, and probably single-payer healthcare at that. We've seen how well that worked in far too many other countries already.
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>>91864225
You're insane. 25 is pretty much the point of no return. You're not gonna be making new friends after that (as opposed to acquaintances), and you're too old for dating to be enjoyable as well. And in the modern economy, if you haven't found a stable career path by then, you won't be finding one at all, and even if you have changing it afterwards is all but impossible due to education requirements alone.

Sometimes 4chan goes so deep down into the cope well that it can't even see in it anymore.
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>>91862812
If you're currently a neet, why don't you put some time into a hobby. Maybe you can get something going when you're confident with your skills and receive donations.
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>>91864245
Your mindset is frightnening
You buy a lot of propaganda despite mountains of evidence that contridicts it. The war on drugs has been a complete failure, and has harmed society for far to long. I challenge you to factually defend this war, far beyond your personal bias of what makes someone a "degenerate".

But the more concerning part of your post is how you fail to see how your society as a whole affects you. Your indifference towards others that you share a society with is dangurous for that societies continued existence, which will very much affect your personal life.
Either you fail to see those connections or you dont care, but your mindset is actually a damgerous for yourself and the rest of us. Im begging you to at least consider the possibility that your wrong.
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>>91864100
>and a lot better than nothingness.
I don't think so

I mean compare the cost and benefit of living
you're probably not going to provide anything of value, and the resources you need to keep living is probably burdensome to you, your family, and society.

will the world really miss out on you not being alive (I know I wouldn't).
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>>91864327
Im not insane I lived it!
I was a drop out who smoked most of his 20s away. I decided I wanted more, and worked my way into an IT field from starting in a call center for technical support that required no experience. That only took a year, and I got bored of that cushy shit and decided I want to run my own thing, and Im now transitioning to running my own business.
I have no degree, I was drowning in debt, and no one gave me a hand out. I just didnt sit still and didnt run from things I thought I might not be great at. And sometimes shit works out great and sometimes it doesnt.

Im not saying you can pop out a law degree but to think your options are gone because your 25 is just plain ignorance in how the world functions.
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>>91861505
Is it really that difficult to get a job in the states? Like literally go to McD's or Walmart, they have application forms so you don't even need a resume
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>>91864445
PLOT TWIST
I'm actually a staunch socialist (but not SJW) living in a country of right-wing extremists, and this is literally what MANY of them have been telling me. It's terrifying.

I wrote it here to see if someone could argue against it convincingly, and it looks like my experiment failed. That's even more terrifying.
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>>91852371
BILL NYE THE WEIMAR GUY
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>>91864445

Is it bad that I think the cure for the war on drugs is for the government to legalize all drugs, but only in state sponsored dispensaries, and any drugs confiscated from dealers are sold at half price 'as is'?

I don't really care if people die from drug addiction, I mostly just care if the state profits from them and institutes some basic regulation.

>>91864533

Hear hear.

JK Rowling was not far from the gutter before she wrote Harry Potter.

The path to even modest success is not a straight line. And it's got a lot of dark points.
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HAHA RELATABLE AM I RIGHT
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>>91864533
I've worked in a call center too, man. It's not fun. I was let go because my contract expired and they didn't have any more work for me to do. Sadly, the business thing is NOT an option in my country unless you're some fucking genius with a totally revolutionary idea or something.

And it's nice how you didn't even bother to argue against my points about friends and relationships. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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>>91864599
>JK Rowling was not far from the gutter before she wrote Harry Potter.
This is bait... r-right!?
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>>91864327
You're mistaking pessimism for realism, and making a ton of assumptions. You can absolutely make new friends after 25, I did exactly that when I returned to university. Most of the people I go to movies/events/chill with are people I met after 25. I can't speak to dating because I've been off the market for a while, but I've got a couple of friends who have successfully changed fields in their 30's. Shit isn't impossible, man, it just gets a little harder.
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>>91856360
Massive disparities in the wealth gap
Highest tuition prices in years for those without financial aid
Needing to get a college diploma for an entry level job
I could go on, but it's painfully clear you aren't really aware of what's happening. Simply because it's not as bad as the worst thing that has ever happened doesn't mean there's not a problem
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>>91864559
Its not easy to change a mind, and its almost impossible to change a belief. People form beliefs based on emotion.

Its not impossible to reach someone and potentially change their mind, but to do so you have to have them engaged in discussion. I also find that if your willing to hear out and even considerpoints you dont agree with, the person your engaging with is willing to do the same.

I would say dont give up on reaching people, but you wont reach anything with your ego.
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>>91864716
>It's not impossible to become a pro-sports player at 25, it just gets a little harder!
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>>91864445
>>91864559
>I wrote it here to see if someone could argue against it convincingly, and it looks like my experiment failed. That's even more terrifying.

Not that guy, the other guy, but none of your strawmanning arguments held up at all:

>>91864245
>But you don't give THEM the money to spend.

If you pay for treatment instead of incarceration, you don't give them the money to spend either.

Also, show quantifiable evidence instead of emotion-based value judgment to show giving individuals money to spend is an objective quantifiable negative.

Also also, you are still giving money to support their well being they are not working for, so by its very definition, it is a handout. You can't alter the basic fact of this.

>If you're "treating" them it's kind of unavoidable.

Literally make absolutely no sense and is nonsense, you give the PEOPLE TREATING the money to spend.

Will do more. Need to spread it out to another post.
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>>91864755
I didn't say that. I said you can change fields. You aren't going to become an nfl star, but if you wanna get into something you need a BA or an associates for, that's fucking possible.

You seem like kind of a downer who doesn't really want to think their way through a problem.
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>>91852600
Bill got a new show approved, Bill Nye saves the World, which does like you'd expect and goes over most modern problems or arguments in science that people refuse to/won't agree upon. The problem is, he opens saying "This is a show for adults" and then there's just a ton of childish stuff that makes it come off as super preachy.
He fist bumps, there's COMPLETELY unnecessary round table discussions, for some reason there's celebrity guests, and there was that specificly awful "my sex junk" performance or w/e that completely shits on what it's trying to promote. I guess they wanted to do a show like Cosmos, but more "shut the hell up and listen, please" but that just makes people on the fence or disagreeing more difficult.
The science is of course right and uses examples, there's good footage from on the field, the set is fucking incredible, and the "Bill needs a minute" bits are equally weird but feel like they are straight from him (minus the shoddy acting).
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>>91862800
/soc/?
Tinder?
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>>91853803
Artists never look like how they draw themselves.
Maybe except from Sir...
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>>91864599
>I think the cure for the war on drugs is for the government to legalize all drugs, but only in state sponsored dispensaries
basically whenever you get a bunch of doctors, physicans, and sociologists in the same room to talk about it they all come to the same conclusion
>any drugs confiscated from dealers are sold at half price 'as is'?
that sounds risky as fuck since those could be cut with any number of nasty shit, or be a crude synthetic thats much more dangerous that the real deal. like what N-Bombs are to LSD
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>>91864814
You seem like the kind of retard who doesn't realize that age milestones are a thing, and many things might as well be set in stone at certain points given the realities of the modern world.
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>>91864759
>Plus it's obviously a punishment, and leaves you with a record.

Which is a net economic drain on the country when making them unable to participate in the workforce, necessitating more handouts.

"Punishment" seems to be an emotional-derives rather than rational or logical argument. Explain why punishment produces a net economic benefit or makes a society more efficient, please. Especially in a secular society without appeals to religion, please.

>>It's in your best interests to see your country prosper economically.
>Not really, why should I give a shit about how random strangers live? They don't bother me, I don't bother them.

1. More successful businesses make more goods and services available to you.

2. Generates more tax revenue that then goes into operating the country you live in.

Since this impacts both private and public sectors, it impacts everything. Extend your argument: all businesses and enterprise stop functioning. How do you survive?

>>Also, explain why the drug war is not a waste of taxpayer money
>It stops widespread degeneracy.

Subjective value judgment, quantify "degeneracy." Emotion-based argument.

>We have more than enough of that as it is, and it's destroyed much of society as we knew it.
>>research on cheap psychedelic substances that show great efficacy in clinical trials should be banned.
>If it's being banned it's probably been identified as having a significant risk of misuse, so see the previous point.

All medicine and chemicals have a risk of misuse. Should cars be banned? You also assume this with no evidence.
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>>91864631
I'll be your friend then you sad self deprecating fuck.

I swear at my friends. Youll learn to love it. YES making friends is hard, and relationships are too. People often say "work on yourself and the rest falls into place"

When you meet new people your so caught up in the negetive aspects about yourself that you frame the entire interaction around that. People pick up on that.

If you think Ive never been fired, dumped, friendless, or depressed, then I understand why my words seem empty. You get back what you put out, and you can change you no matter how hard it seems. If you just dont want to I cant argue with that, but take your cant shit and shove it.

Were still friends.
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>>91864823
You think that's a girl?
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>>91864755
But working a 50k job isn't as hard as it is to become a professional athlete. So yes, that's true, but not really relevant.
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>>91864878
the big question is

how much do you care at this point?
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>>91864815
>The science is of course right and uses examples
There is no science that backs up "gender is a spectrum."
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>>91864871
>>You just seem to be throwing up your hands and saying we taxpayers should just keep wasting and spending tons of our very own money on the problem by using wasteful "solutions" proven not to work instead of taking practical, simple steps to fix it and pay less.
>Because the solutions we have now are entirely in line with capitalist principles.

They are not. They're fiscally liberal and wasteful, as argued. Will get to that in a second.

>You're essentially appealing for socialism, and probably single-payer healthcare at that. We've seen how well that worked in far too many other countries already.

Here's my plot twist: I'm a Libertarian.

The current appraoch to these issues is untenable because it's extraordinarily fiscally liberal and functions as a handout to certain industries, like the bloated prison industry.

I'm a fiscal conservative.

These policies would be cheaper.

But anyone can ignore arguments and evidence and continue to argue on forever. Many people will never be convinced. No truly reasonable person acting rationally supports the drug war. This doesn't mean irrational people won't continue to do so based on sheer unreasonable emotion.
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>>91864656
Bitch was literally digging through trash cans.
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>>91864875
I've been in a never-ending pit of depression resulting from a constant stream of failures on my part for close to 15 years now, 15 years of my life that have been essentially thrown away - and with no sign of it abating, just getting worse. I don't think you or anyone on this board can really empathize.
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>>91864990
That's not why it's bait.
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http://www.webtoons.com/en/comedy/bluechair/list?title_no=199

I was going to email owlturd to share a few observations about universality vs. relatability using Korean strip comics as an example when I found he's already doing (English) strips in their market.

It's worse than I thought.
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>>91864990
she also ran out of money to keep printing new copies of her manuscript so started just crossing off the last publisher's name from the submission page to write in the next one after each rejection
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Ok so the comics have a point with most counterarguments having deep major flaws that only make the person more depressed when they stumble on to them and more distrustful towards any other solution in the future (even the shit jobs are filled, isolation disconnects everyone from peers, there's no drive to do anything, everyone is probably better than you, even getting a normal job probably won't give you the money, resources, happiness, self-worth you need).

but the webcomics could stand to be more creative with their content
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>>91864920
This. Faggots have being bitching about reclasifying it but as of now IT IS dysphoria which IS a mental illness.

It's no different from medical malaise. You just don't feel right about something. With malaise you think you're dying, with gender dysphoria you feel off about your gender. Neither is "true" it's just a disordered state of mind.

If we stopped encouraging them to be the other sex and rather to come to grips with the fact that they have a condition they might be able to confront it.
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>>91864920
Hey, a Doctor caused two kids to commit suicide to procure the science that it is a beautiful rainbow of sticking things up your ass.
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>>91864856
So were gonna completely ignore the easy to find examples of people of all ages changing careers, finding love, making new friends?

Are you saying that those people are somehow better then you?
Or are you simply less capable then them?
Is it luck?
Perhaps Im just delusional? Or a liar?
What exactly is it that makes you truly believe that you cant make or change a life after a set age?
talk to me friendo, Im here for you
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>>91864920
I'm not sure what support he uses since I've only forced myself through half of the show so far, but I'm pretty sure gender falls on a social spectrum and thus it's not really possible to get hard facts about it since it's non-concise (See: on a spectrum).
It's why psychology and what, sociology I guess, are all over the place and argue a lot.
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>>91862191
Did you apply in person or just sent an e-mail?
It might mean nothing but employees look differently when a real human applies.
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>>91865066
From my experience, it's pretty much entirely luck. Other people make mistakes, move on and learn from them. I make even ONE mistake, it haunts me for years if not decades. That's just how it is for me in education, in my "career", in pretty much every aspect of me I can think of.

And I've tried making friends, it's like breaking into an iceberg with a toothpick, that's how frozen solid social circles are at my age.

Plus, to be quite fucking honest, girls after 25 simply aren't attractive. I know beggars can't be choosers, and I'm one of the biggest beggars out there, but sometimes you just have to state the politically incorrect truth.
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>>91864996
Dude Im a drug addict. Ive seen rock bottoms so rocky they could box.
Lifes hard and unfair, ill give ya that cause its true.
Im just trying to get the point accross that its never to late. Feels that way for sure, I get that. You look back on years of pain and it just plain hurts.

Oprah was fuckin right, you gotta love yourself. Your still angry at yourself over failures. You learned to hate deeply(probably preteen years) and you looked in a mirror. Thats a lot of years of you telling yourself your shit. Imagine how different it would be if you werent so mean to you?
Find a thing you like about yourself, it can be small and stupid, but find it. Pat yourself on the back for it, cry about all that mean shit you did to yourself and forgive yourself. Stop telling yourself its hopeless and that your out of time, because that makes it true for you.

I dont expect you to follow the steps like a cookbook and suddenly feel great, but comsider the words.
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>>91865055
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>>91865246
just kill yourself then?
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>>91865246
Some can make it to 30~ and still be reasonable.
But that's the point at which the rate of birth defects starts skyrocketing. Funny how the later-motherhood is never brought up as a reason for the massive amounts of tards and spergs in recent years.
Though, some of that is clearly overproscription of the label.
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>>91865297
>Oprah was fuckin right, you gotta love yourself.

i'd love myself too if i was worth what she was, even in the early 90s
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>>91865345
just look at CWC
his dad and mom had him when they were near 50
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>>91865246
I didnt find older women attractive until I got older
Also your worrying aboht the wrong things. A shallow view of relationships wont help you. A partner is a person first, one with as much going on in their life and mind as you.

Luck is a thing, and id be lying if I said it wasnt possible that you might try, fail everytime, then die.

Its VERY unlikley with an ounce of self relfection that isnt entirely based in "why I suck by Anon P. Shitstain" but possible

I wont give you the "oh yeah your right you loser" that you half want. I also dont have a magic answer that you desperatly wish would fall from the sky.
I have simple advice that works if you have the energy to try it in earnest. You really dont have anything to lose by trying.
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>>91865297
I've "considered" the words, man. It would literally take me years to turn things around IF I were lucky enough to get an opportunity to actually do so, and I really question the point of even trying to if I'm gonna be so old by then.
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>>91858752
I don't think so. Without the text you'd think he was hiding his gayness rather than doubting himself.
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>>91865297
> Im a drug addict
stopped right here i know youll give bullshit advice
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>>91861707
Just how the fuck do you even manage to do that? What do you do that takes 10 fucking years to get one job?
Get into a high demand profession and watch those job offers come in,
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>>91865444
But before she was worth a penny she was an abused depressed landwhale

Just goes to show what a little love directed inward can do.

Shit guys this isnt hard. What you say in your head matters. It frames your world view. Keep track of some of the shit you tell yourselves, see how much is encouraging. We really put it on others to make us feel good because were to busy being absolutely awful to ourselves. And the worst part is most of you think you deserve it. For fucks sakes no wonder your depressed, you've been telling yourselves your awful for years and every little failure is a statement on your worth instead of a learning experience.

Micheal Jordon was cut from his highschool basketball team.
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>>91865616

But what if I'm a shit?
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>>91865490
I ask again then. What do you have to lose?
>>91865582
Judgemental but fair enough. We only limit ourselves when we assume the opinions of others.
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>>91865690
>What do you have to lose?
What little energy and motivation I still have left to literally get up in the morning.
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>>91865664
Do you like being a shit?
If yes, then whats the problem?
If no, change. You will change furing the course of your life, wether you want to or not. Its your choice if you have a hand in that change or not.
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>>91865714
Energy and motivation dont seem worth much if youve already decided to give up. I mean your already spending it.
Im not saying you cant choose to give up, your human, your sapient, its a legit choice. Im just stressing its a choice and that you have other options. You have convinced yourself you dont but you do.

One thing Id say is, if your working in a shit job with no advancement oppurtunities? Keep jumping from shit job to shit job. Do not offer loyalty where it goes unrewarded. Thats some practical advice at least.
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>>91865616
sure

but you can't have that fucking childlike thing of I CAN DO IT all the fucking time when your older

once you hit 20-25, you start to have lots more doubts about what you can go, once you hit 30 its like there is no turning back. either you commit to your job or pull out trying something new or god help you, your DREAM and failing.

that will ruin your esteem hard
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>>91865833
>Keep jumping from shit job to shit job.
That's what I've been doing for many years now, in between months-long bouts of unemployment that is.
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>>91865786
this guy is an asshole

fuck you

can obviously draw, makes a comic about how he can't draw?

fuck you
FUUUUUUUUUUCK
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It's actually a good thing. That way you can easily spot the lazy trash like owlturd and that dumb bitch that always talks about her period, forgot the whore's name.

Picture related, an actually good webcomic.
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>>91865733

Just being a shit is really easy though.

I mean, what if I spent a bunch of time and effort I could have spent watching cartoons and playing video games and don't even end up any happier?
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>>91865857
Stop trying to predict the future and live it instead. I failed in my dream for 9 years before I saw some success. Totally worth it.

You cant look at failure like its the total value of your self worth. Its gonna feel like shit, no doubt, but you can learn from it, and try again more prepared. Theres no "one try only" on most things. I know most of you are gamers, how many times did you not make the jump before you did? How often in capeshit do we see our heroes try, fail, and try agaisnt impossible odds. I know your afraid to feel lifted because your terrafied of the fall. Well it sounds to me like were all well versed in failure so I dont see what were afraid of? More failure? Or actually succeeding and having something worthwhile?
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>>91863327
Nothing really. Used to be a bit more troublesome before I got help from a school that deals with kids like me, helps me adapt and such. My aspergers is really low key really. I mean I have it, I was diagnosed when I was a toddler, but thanks to the schools I went to and the help of certain people, I've risen above what I used to be. Sadly that doesn't get me a job. I wish I had an answer for why I haven't been able to net my first job after seven years of trying, but I don't.

And yeah I understand how I'm one of the "better" assburgs. Most would just happily latch at the first word of government assistance. Government giving you a parachute to live while barely having to have a real job aside from a part-time they might give you so you can have fun money? Most would burst with glee and hop right onto Uncle Sam's teet. But not me, I really wanted to try to have a real adult life, to become fully independent to me and only me. But after 7 years of trying to get jobs at fast food joints and gamestop and retail stores, do I really want to keep going for 7 years more? It shouldn't be this hard to get a simple entry-level job. Do I really want to keep bashing my head against the brick wall for 6 more years until I'm 30 and still jobless?
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>>91863399
>Not sure if it helps, but I'm a black person living in a big city (not Chicago though) and I'm going through the same shit. I don't think Affirmative Action makes much of a difference, the problem is that tons of people are looking for work so employers can ignore anyone who isn't the ideal dream candidate. Even shitty jobs get hundreds of applicants. So employers can ignore anyone who isn't completely perfect.

Well that's good, didn't want to think it was a race thing, takes a load off my head.
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>>91861971
All those resume guides are shit anyway.
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>>91850887
>Make a good webcomic
>Barely recognized, only keep a small group of fans, maybe one or two reblog it to advertise for you

>Make a comic about your depressive life
>Get a whole thread on 4chan talking about your comics, which is basically free advertisement
>Tumblrites reblog it because its '#totally me', hundreds of likes

I haven't the faintest clue, anon. It's truly baffling.
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>>91865878
>makes a comic about how he can't draw?
no it's about how he can't do anything with out explicitly stating it either with labels or speech bubbles.
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>>91865914
Scurry's fucking great man
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>>91863496
If you mean a garbage truck job, that's not the reason nobody wants to do it. When when I worked for a day labor temp office, they were ALWAYS having trouble finding anyone who was willing to do it because of how physically demanding it is. It's eight hours of running alongside a garbage truck and throwing heavy bags into the back.

Even people who did construction work for a living found it too tiring to bother with. It's NOT a job you'd want to recommend to a NEET.
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>>91865962
Personal choice at that point. You can numb your life with constant escapism, and see where that takes you, or you can try something else, which may have risks, you might feel something new, get hurt again, succeed or fail many times.

Really up to you, I can preach the merrits of the latter all day, im not gonna cause the flash is waiting for me on the dvr, but I could!
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>>91865989
>Stop trying to predict the future and live it instead.
That's what I used to do as a kid/teen. It's arguably what got me into this mess in the first place.
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>>91850887
If I read this thread am I going to be disappointed in /co/'s callousness and stupidity?
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>>91850887
>>91852490
>>91859105
My main problem with these is that they're not subtle in the slightest. Peanuts works as a commentary on depression and other mental illness because of its sly humor and that fact that it doesn't throw everything in your face at once. These new wave web""""comics"""" just spell everything out for the audience.
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>>91866100
maybe you can advertise the former by actually posing a name
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>>91866457
Yeah amateur web-based comics from places like tumblr tend not to be better than professional highly successful ones
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>>91865733
Not the guy you were talking to, but I like you Anon. Thanks for your kind words. I needed to hear this stuff .
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Reliability in comics isn't bad when it comes to motivating the viewer (and the artist themselves) to better themselves, but it definitely becomes problematic when that becomes formulaic in every comic drawn.
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>>91866772
What are pals for?!
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>>91864327
>you're insane

I think the guy saying he's going to blow his brains out after 25 because he's just too damn good to work a fucking plumbing job is the insane one here, friendo
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>>91864755
and this attitude is why you will kill yourself
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>>91866958
This is me too, actually: >>91865877

You're gonna need some bigger bait, anon.
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>>91866958

Too many kids are promised the world without being taught that in order to get what you want, you have to work for it. Some people have it easier than others but unless you have real fuck you money, you actually have to put forth an effort to get ahead.

I hope this guy realizes this before he offs himself, and decides that he wants to make the effort after all.
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>>91867067
they're still going to think your entitled because you aren't enjoying your job see >>91867084

probably best to not bother with what they say and just off yourself
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>>91852490
At the very least, Sarah creates lighthearted comics as well to balance out the depression comics
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>>91867084
If you've spent 15 years trying to "get ahead" but only beating your head against a wall in the process, it's probably time to change course.
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>>91863924
Man I don't see this as begging for pity, the guy just feels paralyzed by the fact that making things he likes doesn't get him a following, and making the same trash for people to say 'omg so relatable' on repeat does. He isn't asking for pity, he's answering the question someone asked him.

I imagine that for content creators this is very depressing. I do toy photography and post it on Tumblr sometimes, and while I prefer using toys from more obscure series, it's always the same shit that gets me lots of traffic: anime and star wars. But I prefer Godzilla and obscure World war robot toys. It's a shame the stuff I like making most is generally ignored
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>>91862273
Kill yourself
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>>91864063
Hah, nice.
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>>91867181

Well, yeah. You keep trying new shit until something sticks, and if nothing does, then at least you'll end up with the same result as you prematurely offing yourself.
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>>91867225
This is the sad part about internet popularity. You crank out the same generic shit and people start going "Why can't you be creative?" while you're swimming in fans. When you finally decide to branch out, the tide turns, your 'fans' vanish, and the people who made fun of you for being uncreative are all like "Uhm, who are you?"

I bet if this guy decided to make what he loved he wouldn't be talked about on 4chan ever again
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I don't even understand why people are mad about the depressed and self-pitying.

It's not like anything you say and do can actually stop them from their depressant, most of the advice you give was already noted, tried, and failed due to being a broad advice that relies purely on generalizations and stereotypes and don't account for individual circumstances.

and then there's the question on why you are even trying to prevent others from offing themselves. You clearly don't like, respect, or value the person you are talking to and chances are the less of that person exists the better society will be. So why not have him purify the genepool?
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>>91860243
>Kill Six Billion Demons, world building
Best one in that list if you are not looking for pure comedy.

>Ava's Demon, for the art but writing problematic
>for the art but writing problematic
What?
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>>91853234
I'm looking at this and I can begin to see what inevitably may become your style starting to flourish. The way it's drawn reminds me of Ronin by Miller a bit. Not that that's a bad thing at all but, what I'm trying to say is that it's starting to get some personality.

Also, for your lettering, choose a different font and make the bubbles a bit more proportionally consistent with each other.
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>>91867479
>I don't even understand why people are mad about the depressed and self-pitying
I don't think most anons are mad about them saying they're depressed, I think they're just mad because a ton of people are doing it. If artists talked about good things in their lives just as much, it would be hated on, too
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>>91867485
I think anon is saying they got triggered by all the underage makeouts and sideboob.
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The days of webcomics is at an end

Now is the days of Japanese/Chinese Isekai webnovels
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>>91867479
I just don't like that people are doing it for attention and money with retarded comics while people who are actually depressed feel too shitty to even talk about it with their friends and family (if they have any).
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>>91850887
>Why do so many people make only products that sell/get attention?
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>>91867909
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>>91865593
>Get into a high demand profession
Oh geez why didn't he just think of that? He must have forgotten about those.

You know, if he's having that much trouble getting a job then, if I were to take a guess, he probably has enough issues that he wouldn't have it much easier in such a high demand profession either. Not to mention the difficulties of getting through a good education (which is even more difficult if you happen to live in America and not have a lot of money).
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>>91851662
Now draw a comic about you drawing this comic and posting about in in a cambodian disco dancing board.

Just joshing with you, keep drawing everyday anon
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>>91852083
It helps to put barriers to that seemingly "endless" internet.

Me? I stopped using torrents and only search for direct downloads. Makes the supply a bit narrower.
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>>91853301
One false step and you will turn into Zenpencils 2.0.

Follow the advice from >>91863375
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>>91867514
Biggest problem with that is that my fundamentals are poop but Frank could do Dare Devil. I appreciate the hell out of that because Frank and Sale are my two favorite artists. I definitely need to work on my fundamental skills before attempting to develop a style.

pic related is the result of that. Still a bit too bulky and wonky.

Thank you for the tips on lettering, I've been downloading some lately to play around with so I'll work on that.
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