One of my biggest fears about the button story is modern writers

>>91821709
>I don't want them to tone down the character to fit the PC frame set.
Odds are he will be overly edgy.

Face the facts, we are talking about the company that greenlit Before Watchmen.

>>91821709
>I don't want them to tone down the character to fit the PC frame set.

Don't worry. Maybe you'll get some more TIME TO SHIT from Azz.

The fuck are they gonna tone down he was basically a more edgy Batman

I just hope they don't make him anything but a staunch Republican. He's conservative as fuck and would've voted for Trump in a heart beat in modern times and would have no problem telling everyone he did to. I'm not saying they have to bring it up, but they can't try and claim he's liberal or progressive. That would be stupid.

>>91821709

But he's dead.

>>91821888
I really don't think he would have lol.

>>91821920
But is he though?

>>91821709
he kills rapists, sjws will love him

>>91821960
Why not? He's pretty damn conservative in the comics to a fault. He's a stubborn asshole too. He's honestly the type of person I'd see voting for Trump considering he hates all liberals.

>>91821888

>Implying Rorschach would vote

I'm sorry, but you seem to have shiggy'd the whole diggy

>>91821920
>Implying DC wont bring him back ASAP during Rebirth.

>>91821888
>>91822003
Considering Rorschach was based on Ditko’s Mr. A and the Question, I think he’s rather a hard Libertarian/Objectivist rather than a shitty conservative. I don’t think he would’ve voted for Trump (nor for Gary Johnson anyway).

>>91822093
He voted for Ronald Reagan.

>>91821888
>>91821960
>>91822003
Trump would probably condemn (as much as condemns any other thing, at least) vigilantes and stuff.

>>91821888

You're a retard if you believe any of this or care.

>>91822140
He voted for Ronald Reagan and wrote a paper in why he thought dropping the bombs on Japan was a good thing. He liberals and pedophiles practically held hands (figuratively) in many of his papers and notes. He hates women too because of his mother and it's obvious he carried this thought over to women in general because he didn't like to handle women's clothing and thought most women were whores and sluts. He's pretty damn conservative.

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>>91822143
there literally has not been a president other than Nixon since the 60s in the Watchmen universe.

>>91822242

I don't remember any of this damn

>>91821888
>he's conservative as fuck

bullshit. he's a conspiracy theorist. he's be so far to the left once he researched the history of the CIA your head would explode.

by the way, liberals are right of center capitalists. liberal economists are the economists that right wing libertarians study

also, the word "libertarian" is a stolen word. it originally meant leftist and anti-authoritarian because the word "anarchist" had been banned in france. liberal economists took the word and used it do push a corporatist agenda

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>>91822242
none of those things are conservative, they're just /r9k/.

fuck this shitty thread.

>>91822251
I meant Nixon then. I mixed up the two because Ronald was mentioned a lot in the comics as well. But he did vote Nixon, or at least supported him. And I'm certain that Rorschach mentioned admiring his father he never met and imagined his father was a staunch republican.

>>91822242
>wrote a paper in why he thought dropping bombs on japan was a good thing

citation

>>91822271
>He's a conspiracy theorist
Have you been to /pol/ at all? Ever heard of Pizza Gate?

>>91822302
>he voted nixon

citation

>>91822307
It's in the Watchmen comic itself. I believe it's after the chapter where he's being analyzed by the psychiatrist and they were looking at his personal history. Something he wrote when he was in school.

>>91822330
>all conspiracy theorists are the same
>all conspiracies are ridiculous

lol you're stupid as fuck.

Anyone get the feeling Rorschach is going to be replacing The Question?

>>91821709
Why would he be there at all? The man fucking died

Jesus Christ I hate this whole stupid concept, we all would have laughed at the very idea of this years ago

>>91822363
i don't think that happened. post a pic of what you're talking about or GTFO

>>91822369
But the other anon said he'd be extremely left-wing just because he was a conspiracy theorist.
I don't believe he would've voted for Trump but the dude was still pretty bigoted.

>>91822330
>>91822369
Reminder that the CIA literally shot people up with morphine in one arm and LSD in the other to experiment with truth syrums and ted kazcynski was one of the people they experimented on.

This is not conspiracy theory. This is all declassified fact.

>>91822293
/r9k/ is the modern conservative, though

>>91822307
>"I like President Truman, the way Dad would of wanted me to. He droppedt he atom bomb on Japan and saved millions of lives because if he hadn't of, then there would of been a lot more war than there was and more people would of been killed. I think it was a good thing to drop the atom bomb on Japan." - Walter Kovacs in his Charlton Home paper
Chapter VI

>>91822460
bigoted against who?

>conspiracy theorists are bigots
the fuck are you talking about

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>>91822271
>the word "anarchist" had been banned in france
You can't make this shit up.
Europe: Not even once

>>91822302

Actually the President he most admired was Truman (a Democrat).

But nonetheless I fucking doubt Walter Kovaks voted.

>>91822307
It's literally in the backup of Fearful Symmetry (I believe) along with the drawn picture of his mom and some john fucking.

>>91822293
>>91822480
Reminder that the both largest police action against the american people and the largest, deadliest race riot in american history were both because of a progressive liberal's president's direct action.

>>91822519
riiiiight, because what rorschach wrote as a kid has total influence over his adulthood.... thank you for providing evidence, at least.

>>91822519
>Charlton Home

Ha! I never fucking got the reference to his Orphanage being the name of the comic company the whole Watchmen idea was based off.

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>>91822554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnj3dObd6do

He justified Truman's decisions but he didn't vote, or didn't mention voting anywhere that I recall.
He's a conservative, but he probably sees politicians as criminals considering his absolute and objectivist points of views on right and wrong.

>>91822595
You might be right, he might not have voted. But I still thinks he's conservative

>"Slept all day. Awoken at 4:37 Landladay complain about smell. She has five children by five different fathers. I am sure she cheats on welfare." -Rorshachs Journal October 13th, 1985

>Meeetin with Veidt left bad taste in mouth. He is pampered and decadent, betraying even his own shallow, liberal affectations. Possibly homosexual? Must remember to investigate further. -Rorschach's Journal October 13th, 1985 8:30 p.m.

Pretty sure he also think Comedian is an American hero deserving of respect.

>>91822242
>He hates women too because of his mother and it's obvious he carried this thought over to women in general because he didn't like to handle women's clothing and thought most women were whores and sluts.

How is that indicative of him being a Republican exactly?

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>>91822657

You're literally proving that you missed the WHOLE FUCKING POINT of Watchmen.

What happened to Rorschach as a kid is very influential on his thought as an adult. Him being uncomfortable around women is due to his mother having been a prostitute.

His "admiration" of Truman is a massive part of the reason why he commits suicide by Dr Manhattan because he cannot actually deal with his convictions upon such a scale.

You either haven't read Watchmen, or lack any reading comprehension.

>>91822763
Sounds like a modern conservative voter to me

>>91822830
This. It honestly does desu.

>>91822760

Oh, I'm not arguing that Rorschach doesn't have very conservative views, especially as far as morals are concerned. But I think saying he's a poster boy for Conservatism is wrong.

And you're correct he does idolise Edward Blake. The whole fucking crux of his story is investigating Eddie's murder after all.

>>91822657
>was abused violently as a kid, hence his hatred for anything sexual and feminine
>believed his father was a soldier who died serving his country, hence his admiration of President Roosevelt and, later, the Comedian who he also saw as a soldier doing his job for America
>was bullied and generally lived hellishly, hence his immediate concern and empathy for all children in similar positions, including the little girl whose death drove him fucking insane to begin with

>lol nothing he did as a kid had any influence over his adulthood

This is either really good bait or a great example why nu/co/ sucks balls.

>>91822881
I never said he was a poster boy. Pretty sure he was supposed to be a warning about staunch conservatism.

>>91822871
>>91822830
I don't get it personally.

>>91822830
So if he had been a liberal but experienced the same level of abuse, he'd be totally different with his attitudes?

Can we keep in mind that he is a caricature of a conservative because Alan Moore is a fucking dick that thinks all right wingers are nazis and he wanted to make Rorschach an utterly dislikable piece of shit?
It's incredibly infantile how he treated him. "Oh, he's a conservative, so of course he hates women and sexuality, because all conservatives do! Of course he's a violent sociopath!". It was super lazy, but it backfired greatly because he turned to be the most relatable character to most readers.

>>91823020
Pretty much this. I believe I saw an article online where Alan Moore was surprised and saddened that so many readers like Rorschach.

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>>91822929

While Rorschach does hold conversative views I think he's more meant to be a "warning" against having uncompromising views on either scale.

The thing is though is that Rorschach is a really good example of the Hypercrisis in that Moore wanting to make him this despicable character who's name, outlook, and philosophy is meant to evoke revulsion but instead he's the most endearing, likable, and human character within Watchmen; showing/proving that sometimes the characters speak rather than the writer.

>>91822783
rorschach was never a kid. Walter Kovacs was a kid.

>he cannot actually deal with his convictions upon such a scale

congrats, you have just described manhattan. or am i wrong? perhaps manhattan had no convictions and that's why the world was going to end, because manhattan was a fucking pushover.

OP's caption talks about today's PCness, not the cold war propganda of the 80s.

>>91822907
once again, OP talks about today's PCness, not bullshit nationalism from the 80s during the cold war in a dysopian scenario with nixon

"Traps are totally gay" rorsharch is a reactionary, calling him a conservative is sort of like calling Che Guevera a socialist.

>>91822460
Bigots thrive in numbers in both parties anon. But his logic is idiotic, so don't pay it too much mind.

>>91822830
>>91822871
Perhaps if all you learned about modern conservatives is from 4chan or the daily kos. He's farther off the political mainstream than Huey Freeman, relatively speaking.

>>91823073
>>91822929
I think it's more open ended than that. He's supposed to be above all single minded and uncompromising in his sense of morality.

>>91822907

Agreed. The guy who is posting has obviously never read Watchmen (the book and movie are the same right?!).

To be fair I'd be surprised if even 5% of regular /co/ users (and the comic not cartoon ones at that) have read Watchmen.

>>91822736
if rorschach had access to the internet, he would no longer be conservative or nationalist for that matter

>>91821709

>>91823170
i've read watchmen. go fuck yourself.

>>91823020
I think you're just overly sensitive and took it personally.

>>91823186
The fiasco with Hillary and the riots of Anti-Fa would only push Rorschach further to the right.

>>91823148
>He's supposed to be above all single minded and uncompromising in his sense of morality.

That was kind of what I was saying here>>91823073

In that while Rorschach has "conservative" values he's more of a warning against having uncompromising views in general.

>>91823215
Then why didn't you believe me when I said Rorschach supported the bombing in Japan? It's right there in the comics at the end of chapter VI.

>>91823218
Not that anon, but Moore is objectively pretty juvenile and petty. Not even politically. Just look at his one LOEG that goes through the different decades.

>>91823218
I didn't, I like Alan Moore. I'm just repeating his own words. He himself said no one should ever relate to Rorschach and it's troubling if someone does.
He describes him as pretty much the worst human being, a Batman with no self respect in his words, who have given up any human aspect of himself to be his ideal of justice.

>>91823215

Then how come you seemed completely miffed about Rorschach endorsing Truman? How much you implied that Rorschach's childhood had no effect on him as an adult?

This anon sums it up really well >>91822907

Also if you have read Watchmen two questions:

>What journal does Daniel Drieberg get published in?
>What is the name of Nite Owl I's book?

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>>91821709

>anyone but Alan Moore writing Rorschach properly

>>91823065
Then maybe he shouldn't have given him such a tragic backstory and an even worse death.

I don't get Moore's logic. Yes, Rorschach is incredibly conservative to the point of bigotry but it doesn't stop him from doing his job or helping others, and while he's incredibly violent it's not like Moore goes out of his way to show that anything horrible he does to others is undeserved. Pretty much everyone Rorschach brutalizes and tortures attack him first or end up being horrible criminals, with the exception of the people in the bar he goes to interrogate in the opening issue.

Do people just act like Rorschach is some wanton serial killing racist because his fanbase is so edgy and irritating, or is that really all they saw him as when they read the comic?

>>91823186
Right, that's exactly how I feel. If it wasn't for the scenario where he was brought up in, he would be much closer to the Comedian.
If Rorschach existed today I feel that he would be completely anarchistic, anti-establishment and anti-status quo, the same ones that outlawed his mask.
He only had some admiration for Truman due to the era and his father.

>>91823343
>>91823314
Yeah and I agree with you about that but the idea that Moore made him a bad person to shit on conservatives? That's kinda dumb.

>>91823127
What the fuck are you babbling about, you nut?

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>>91823361

I think Moore thought that the most human character, and the one the readers should gravitate towards was Nite Owl II.

But Hypercrisis baby!

Can someone explain to me why anyone thinks he'll show up?

The motherfucker is dead

>>91823455
It wasn't to shit on conservative, he was using his own biases to form a character, something every writer is guilty of to an extent.
I think Rorschach is a well written character but sometimes he's extremely one dimensional, being a conservative defines him. As an example, how he attached himself to conservative publications (The Frontiersman) and refuses everything else, thus getting his information from a single biased source.

>>91823361
>I don't get Moore's logic.

When discussing him you have to keep in mind he has a very low opinion of the intelligence of anyone other than him.

He genuinely believes readers are so dumb that when they'd see that Rorschach was the most violent (save for Comedian) they would automatically associate him as a bad guy.

I'm not sure about Rorschach but The Comedian would totally vote for Trump.

>>91823343
I've known a few people and have read about even more who relate to Rorschach because of his childhood and how you can make an argument for him being a victim of sexual abuse.

There's actually a really good article about it and how he's actually empowering in that respect, but I'm having a hell of a time trying to find it.

>>91823517

A part of me really hopes this is the case. The only Watchmen stuff I'm okay with showing up are Dr Manhatten, Rorschach's journal, and maybe Ozymandias.

Another part of me is almost positive DC's greed will put in EVERYTHING which would be a damn shame.

Hopefully they decide on going with story rather than money/gimmicks.

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>>91823517
>Thinking people stay dead in comics

>>91823517
>Most popular character of Watchmen save for possibly Manhattan.

>Not capitalizing on it.

I'm willing to put money on the fact that the reveal will be that he never actually exploded Rorschach, just transported him to the DC Universe.


Or maybe Flash will find him in the speedforce falling while screaming "RRRRRAAAAAARRRRRLLLLL"

>>91823306
There's a difference between reading it and memorizing every page.

>>91823170
I think more like only 10% have a really good understanding of what the fuck went on in Watchmen, at a level above a few memorable scenes and memes.

>>91823255
If regular times square prostitutes trigger rorsharch, I can only imagine what modern gender identity or transexuals would do to him.

>>91823361
>Do people just act like Rorschach is some wanton serial killing racist because his fanbase is so edgy and irritating, or is that really all they saw him as when they read the comic?

I suspect that many people think that racial bigotry is a completely irredemable sin. And the dude is a hateful, violent, cold motherfucker.

>>91823517
Since when does death stop anyone in the big 2? And even then, Deadman X Rorsharch, adventures in the afterlife. Guest starring Dr Fate and the Spectre.

>>91823471
That's funny because Dan ends up becoming one of the worst characters by the end who has absolutely no issues with letting Veidt have his way and doesn't give a shit about his partner being murdered as long as he gets to bang Laurie.

And this is coming from someone who likes Dan. If Rorschach's primary negative trait is hypocrisy, Dan's is selfishness.

>>91821709
Honestly fucking kill yourself, you clearly have the mind and constitution of a small child

>>91823361
There's a thing some writers like to do where they intentionally set up a person with personality flaws that ends up getting them killed in the end. I think Moore was trying to say to the readers, "See? If you're a shitty person you'll end up being disintegrated by a glowing blue dick." Kind of like a come uppence story.

>>91822307
Kovacs,W. (1983) 'Why Dropping Bombs on Japan was a Good Thing'.

>>91823755
>has absolutely no issues with letting Veidt have his way and doesn't give a shit about his partner being murdered
Hmmm you are completely wrong

>>91823471
It's hilarious when characters beat up their writers.

It just amuses me so much.

>tfw you hide under the covers when you go to sleep the SJWs don't cut your dick off

When will their terror end?

>>91823517
>one of the most beloved characters in comics and THE face of Watchmen
>literally, LITERALLY, written to be a huge jab against Batgod (and the Question)
>people still talk about his death to this day and argue about the fairness of it
>not expecting DC to wheel him out in some form or other

It's happening. I don't know how, but it will.

>>91823351
>kid kovacs endorsing truman
>the same as rorschach endorsing truman

you're reaching. sticking to your morals in the face of armageddon does not mean that rorschac was fine with people dying. it simply means he was going to stick with his morals.

>>91823432
No, that doesn't make any sense. Rorschach also really hates communists, and there's no way to sugar coat this, but there's a lot of communists in the liberal party right now. And no matter what you can also say Rorschach believes he loves his country. He muses on commercial coka-cola products when he's strolling by the whores. Part of Rorschach's character is his abusive childhood leading him to hate his mother which eventually led to women. He'd hate feminism in the modern day. And you can't get rid of his character traits otherwise he wouldn't be Rorschach anymore and there would be no point in talking about it.

>>91823755
I like Rorschach the most, but I side with Dan on the Ozymandias conundrum. Morals aren't black and white like Walter thinks, they are grey, they are human artificies.
This was a matter of living with a terrible secret, carrying that on your back for the rest of life, in exchange of saving the entire human race and everything it has accomplished and will accomplish.
Rorschach was kinda more selfish, he was willing to kill the entire world just because something wasn't right, because he would never compromise.

>>91823465
you can stop gaslighting now

>>91823731

>There's a difference between reading it and memorizing every page.

It's a kind of a big part of his character because it shows that he's just a hypocrite that doesn't really strongly believe in what he claims to.

>>91823731
I didn't memorized it either. I just recalled reading something like that, skimmed to the page where I found it, then gave you the source. You did read the interludes, right?

>>91823841
It's a valid concern.

Rorschach openly hates Liberals and women. Part of his likability is his questionable morals. It would take away from the character if they took that away.

>>91821709
if they include him at all, I don't see them inserting Rorscharch as anything but an antagonist

>>91823801
>is pacified enough to accept Veidt's offer to stay the night and sleep with Laurie, and makes no attempt to strike back no matter how pointless it may have been
>makes absolutely no indication that he knows about Rorschach's death let alone feels the slightest bit of grief about it

Hmmm you only watched the movie didn't you?

>>91823877
Right, and you know what socialist is, right? It's the absolute control of the state. If Rorschach wasn't bound by 50's values and newspapers he'd see on the internet how much both the right and the left are about giving all the power to the state. He'd be a center capitalist.

>>91823932

>It's a valid concern.

i guess if you live in an echochamber where you hear nothing but "THE SJWS ARE DESTROYING THE WORLD" everyday

>>91823361

I mean you literally just white washed him in your post, almost every who jerks off Rorschach ignores the bad parts of his personality and how he is a shit person.

>>91823908
>he's just a hypocrite that doesn't really strongly believe in what he claims to.
I don't know if I'd go this far. It's obviously there to show parallels between the Atomic bombs and the destruction of New York, but I think really Rorschach is supposed to realize this. I think that's why he was crying and telling Dr. Manhattan to kill him at the end. He couldn't live with his convictions to only serve justice and what he's been lead to believe his entire life.

>>91823952
He never actually was informed of Rorschach's death in the comics. They departed and Dan went back inside to a separate room to fuck Laurie or whatever, while Manhattan killed him.
In his defense.

>>91823998
What do you think white washing means?

>>91823958
But Rorschach wouldn't see everything you wanted to see. Rorschach was really biased and only used on Newspaper source for all his information. Everything else he didn't learn himself through interrogation he dismissed. Rorschach is biased.

>>91823916
I did, but it's a safe bet that a lot of people either didn't read or didn't remember the shit in the text portions.

>>91823908
>it shows that he's just a hypocrite that doesn't really strongly believe in what he claims to.
I don't see that at all. What is the conflict you're talking about?

>>91823959
The character's primary traits are his conservative values. Toning those down would legitimately ruin the character. I don't see why you're getting so upset over this.

>>91824051
Maybe you're right, but he already, even back then. hated politicians for the vigilante law act.

>>91823958
socialism is the government funding essentials like food, education and healthcare out of their own pocket. absolute control of the state is communism

>>91823932
If Rorschach was ever "dumbed down" it would be for the sake of preserving whatever PG13 atmosphere the comics have as a whole. Moore was able to get away with a lot because Watchmen was a comic intended solely for adults. I can definitely see DC toning down Rorschach just to keep him appropriate enough for whatever kiddies are reading, but not enough to where he'd be unrecognizable.

At the worst, you won't hear him calling Harley Quinn a slut to her face, but everything else he does and says will indicate what he feels just fine.

>>91823795
>>91823306
>>91822519
>>91822242

http://www.historyextra.com/feature/second-world-war/was-us-justified-dropping-atomic-bombs-hiroshima-and-nagasaki-during-second

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/08/04/70-years-after-hiroshima-opinions-have-shifted-on-use-of-atomic-bomb/

http://theantimedia.org/dropping-the-bomb-on-hiroshima-and-nagasaki-was-never-justified/

https://www.thenation.com/article/why-the-us-really-bombed-hiroshima/

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-did/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria

>>91824059
>Where is the conflict
He justified the atomic bombs being dropped on Japan because he said it ended up saving more lives or something like that. Then when it came time for him to hold the secret about why New York was destroyed he couldn't do it, because he didn't care that the sacrifice of all those lives would save humanity. That's what this anon is trying to get at.

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>>91824108
Why are you dropping all these links?

>>91823877
>lot of communists in the liberal party right now

false. liberals are right of center capitalists

>>91823958
>socialism is absolute control of the state
false.

>he's see on the internet about how right and left are about giving all the power to the state

false.

>>91824096
false. communism is a stateless society

Would Rorschach participated in the battle of Berkeley?

>>91824091
Yeah, he wanted to be a vigilante, but his values never really changed though. He saw the forces against him as the corruption of America which is why he said society was dying and decaying.

>>91824165
this is the internet, not the 80s. OP is talking about rorschach in modern times. try to keep up.

>>91824096
First: you got it inverted. Socialism is the inbetween phase to achieve communism, where state will be abolished (which is unreachable, so every time they try it just stays in socialism).
Second, government's own pocket? What the fuck? Where do you think the government gets the money they have? It's called taxes, everyone has to pay them, even if they don't use those services, and if you don't they jail you, or in socialist regimes: they gun you down.

>>91824165
I think he thinks you think dropping the bombs on Japan was justified.

>>91824096
No. Absolute control of the state is authoritarianisim. Communisim is ownership and control of the entire economy by the people, which in practice means the state. And socialisim isn't necessarily or even usually funded "out of pocket", without stretching the concept of what taxes and leviesare.

>>91823959
What does the character being true to his original concept have to with echochambers?

>>91824172
>Implying he wouldn't personally murder antifa and claim he was killing pedophiles.

>>91824108

>Japan tried to surrender before we nuked them, but a cultural difference kept the war going

This will always be the weirdest historical revisionism to me. It is like 9/11 level of "let's ignore the facts."

>>91824008

Thank you. Someone else finally gets it.

Also, he takes off his mask for his death because Walter can't live with the uncompromising position which he viewed Rorschach as having.

>>91824171
Sorry, but you're wrong. Socialism is about absolute control of the state by definition and even Lenin described it as that.

>>91824190
society was dying and decaying because there was an impending nuclear war, a result of u.s. nationalism having ultimate power via dr. manhattan

no one would care about traditional values if there's a constant threat of nuclear war, and the leadership CERTAINLY wouldn't care about morals.

>>91823998
I don't think you know what white washing means.

But I'll bite anyway. He's clearly mentally unstable and has some awful qualities, but that doesn't make him a monster who doesn't deserve sympathy, and if Moore intended for him to be one, he clearly fucked up.

I roll my eyes every time I hear fanboys go on about how Rorschach is a shit person who was completely unlikable because it's like they're all trying to their best to prove to Lord Moore that they aren't like the edgelords who glorify him, not realizing that they're instead reducing him to a one-note psychopath and jab against lmao conservatives.

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>>91824201
But I didn't say that. I was saying that's what Rorschach thought.

>>91824196
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/henrymiller/2014/08/05/the-nuking-of-japan-was-a-military-and-moral-imperative/#7af312e35269

>https://www.rt.com/usa/311711-americans-hiroshima-bombing-justified/

>http://nationalinterest.org/feature/no-other-choice-why-truman-dropped-the-atomic-bomb-japan-13504

>>91824089
>>91824211

so you see nothing wrong with being paranoid that the sjw boogeyman will destroy a character

>>91824198
>socialist regimes gun you down

lol you mean capitalist regimes, proxy militias, regime change, puppet dictatorships for capitalist super powers... etc.

>>91824248
>no one would care about traditional values
But Rorschach did. He cared a lot. Because he was uncompromising.

>>91824213
This. Modern day Rorschach would go ham at Berkeley.

>>91824217
>revisionism
lol dude, the allies lied their fucking pants off before, during, and after ww2.

IBM and General Motors are the reason the 3rd reich were so successful.

9/11 was an inside job.

look up "a new pearl harbor"

>>91824290
i was implying that the argument that people are making about rorschach being conservative falls in on itself when the reason society was decaying was because of over the top nationalism.

>>91824290
Rorschach cared about traditional values because that was the time period he was raised in, and he had a sugarcoated view of his father who he believed encompassed everything "good" about America, like being a brave soldier who fought against the Nazis.

It doesn't really have much to do with being uncompromising so much as being a completely delusional product of your age.

>>91824324
>>91824213
>I'm sorry officer, but I didn't kill human beings. I just put to death several communist pedophile scum. Honestly, you should be thanking me. What? You're taking me to jail? Woops, guess I have to kill you too now.
This would be modern Rorschach.

>>91821709
huh? How? Doesn't he represent the radical right in the US?

>>91824381
>Cops at Berkley.

>Doing their job.

Pick one.

>>91824287
Oh, for fuck's sake, don't get me started on this retarded shit. "Every evil socialism has ever done was an imperialist lie."
Go study history and you'll see how every single one of them acted.
Also "capitalist regime"... what?? Capitalism isn't and ideology, it's just an economic trading system. There can't be a capitalist regime.

Stop believing your retarded Facebook history redactions that every evil regime was banked by the US secretly.

>>91824407
>Hates homosexuals
>Believes people using welfare are leeches
>Is a christian (I think) because he says he thinks his dad is in heaven if killed while at war.
>Hates women and probably would hate feminism
He seems like a radical republican to me.

>>91824455
>Capitalism isn't and ideology, it's just an economic trading system.
So is communism.

Both are ideological because rich people don't want to realising that there's more to politics and power than money.

>>91824249
>whitewash

That's just a generation gap. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_(censorship)

In your post you just kinda gloss over the fact that Rorschach had no problem torturing some random guy. I sympathize with him, but I won't deny he is a shit human, which you do.

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>>91824455
>Capitalism isn't an ideology

>>91824381
But the real question is, how would modern Rorschach deal with tumblr?

>>91824473
>hates homosexuals
>hates women
and he had a slight attachment to Nite Owl, hmmmmm

poor guy just need a loving hug and a warm shower

>>91824290

>Because he was uncompromising.

he wasn't
he compromised multiple times
that was kind of the point

>>91824537
There is nothing economic about communism, it has been debunked in the 50's. It's literally impossible to be implemented.
Capitalism is just trading. Caveman did that shit.

>>91824108

Not even going to click any of these. You don't need a myriad of articles to tell you the atomic bomb was a dick waving to the rest of the world, particularly Stalin, saying yeah this is coming Express mail to you if you fuck with us. The Japanese were just a convenient way for us to justify it.

>>91824574

They aren't breaking any laws so the most he would do is not really like them all that much.

>>91824574
Call them all sluts who want attention online.

>>91824589
>Not knowing there's a difference between Rorschach and Kovacs
Rorschach was meant to be uncompromising. Walter Kovacs however was a biased child who let his childhood and biasness shape how he saw the world which is why he took off the mask before Dr. Manhattan killed him.

>>91824287

>it's a history revisionism episode

>>91824621
>>91824642
This. Rorschach wouldn't do anything besides say mean things at them. But he'd be hoping to catch them in the middle of a crime for him to slit their piggy throats.

This thread is a fucking disaster, holy shit.

Anyway, I'm still not sure how Rorschach would be integrated into the DCU, given how he didn't survive the events of Watchmen. So far, the only character confirmed to be involved is Doctor Manhattan. Everything else at this point is just speculation and hearsay.

Anyway, I hope that DC doesn't get overtly political with Rorschach, if not due to such a supercharged political climate we live in. They should stick with him being a brutal vigilante with a paranoid streak, someone with a black-and-white view of the world that he clings to in order to maintain his own sanity. If he has to come back, his character should be struggling to understand and make sense of this new universe that Dr. Manhattan built.

>>91824649

>hey fag these pills are illegal im gonna put you in jail you fucking cunt
>but I have cancer
>okay nevermind I guess I can compromise and leave you alone and instead report the drug company

seems like a guy who doesn't really believe to never compromise on anything

>>91824699

Honestly I would like it if he came back as someone who was just done with it all. I mean his entire world view was held up in front of his face and shattered, right before he was blown up. If he came back I don't think that psyche damage would just be undone.

>>91824708
He had broken his finger for absolutely no reason before.

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>>91824683
A funner question would be how would he react to pic related.

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>>91824699
The comedian has GOT to be involved somehow. Don't forget, that's his button. I wonder why Dr. Manhattan dropped that button in Batman's cave, and if it has anything to do with Joker. Joker and the Comedian don't seem to have much in common besides their views on society.

>>91824699
I thought it was a pretty good thread to be honest. Besides people discussing whether or not capitalism is better than communism we got a real in depth discussion of Rorschach's character. I like having opportunities to take a dig through Watchmen comics.

>>91824217
>>91824609

What would have been the next best alternative option?

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>>91825027
Raping all of their women and forcing them to have hapa babies.

>>91824574

“Roschach's Journal: April 24th, 2018

They say they're puting on masks and hunting Nazis. And I can almost get behind that sentiment. Except they seem to think flag waving Americans are Nazis. I wonder about their intentions. Is a good smack to the side of the TV is enough to correct the picture, or if I'll have cut this out at the bloody root.

Tumblr spits on me. Calls me a shitlord. I see right through it's recycled reblogged rainblow flags at the ugly fearful beast that it is.

There's money going into the organizing processes here. Follow the trail. Sniff out the subversion.

Shadbase is back up online. Make a note to visit his new hosting provider.

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>>91825219
>antagonizing Shadaman
LEAVE HIM ALONE RORSCHACH!

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>>91825027
The bomb literally was the best alternative compared to what could have happened.
I'm not even saying it was good nor am I denying that it was just a show of strength to end the war.
But it could have been unspeakably worse.

>>91824108
>Japan was ready to surrender and didn't have any weapons left
Oh hey this again. I almost expected to find an original argument.
Mind I dump some shit of my own in here ?

http://charjynx.tumblr.com/post/139623907224/zerotide-siryouarebeingmocked
>inb4 hurr tumblr

http://fas.org/irp/eprint/arens/chap4.htm

http://b-29.org/9th-BG/jim-meeks/invasion2.html

http://ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?battle_id=54

http://www.kilroywashere.org/006-Pages/Invasion.html

http://www.archive.org/stream/manhattanarmyato00jone#page/528/mode/2up

http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2013/03/08/the-decision-to-use-the-bomb-a-consensus-view/

But since this is /co/ you are probably just going to tell me to go back to /pol/ even though I don't come from there.
Maybe someone might find this a good read.

>>91824771

>The bloated decaying corpse of this place still has more bleeding to do.

>Further note. Inspect red dyed baked goods carefully from now on.

>>91825219
>Shadbase is back up online. Make a note to visit his new hosting provider.


DO IT!

>>91825057

Anri was to perfect for this sinful earth.

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>>91825264
>that filename
Is it just me or does anyone else always read posts with a picture of Aku in his voice ?
I just can't help it.

>>91821961
Yeah, he's gay.

People who likes Before Watchmen shoud be killed

>>91822417
read a book nigger

>>91823517
Fucking Jason and Bucky came back. The only person who ever, and I mean EVER stays dead is Uncle Ben.

>>91825499
Even Minutemen?

>>91825598
Maybe Kovacs is alive in the DC universe somehow though. Maybe upon instant disintegration teleported and rearranged Kovacs in the Justice League world, but did the same thing he did with everyone else after Flash point and took away ten years of his memory to try and make him less of a sociopath or something like that. Maybe Rorschach is doing some textile work somewhere.

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>>91825249
>Shadbase wants to do art as close to illegal as possible.

>Will just encourage them to see it my way, as close to illegal as possible.

>>91825499
Bitch to be you :/

>>91823886
>in exchange of saving the entire human race and everything it has accomplished and will accomplish.
You don't seriously think Ozy's plan worked, did you? I give it three decades tops.

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>>91825752
>91825752
>>91825266
>>91825219
These are actually pretty kino posts.

Who the fuck was Rorschach's dad anyway?

>>91825899
President Truman.

>>91825787
there was no risk of Armageddon, except that caused by people trying to prevent Armageddon
and trying to sop them just contributes to the matter, so let them tire themselves out with their chronic anxiety and go back to tending the fields

>>91821888
Rorshach would've hated Trump for being a pampered guy born into obscene wealth who openly bragged about his adultery. He wouldn't have voted for him just because he promised to keep immigrants out.

>>91827354
>Rorshach would've hated Trump for being a pampered guy born into obscene wealth who openly bragged about his adultery

That's literally how he views all politicians anyway. If anything he'd admire Trump for being as outspoken as he is on social media.

>He wouldn't have voted for him just because he promised to keep immigrants out.

Rorschach is the kind of guy who would be all for cracking down on illegal immigration.

>>91825264

Christ anon maybe don't link bunch of literally who websites to defend your post

>>91827354
>>91827915

>Roschach's Journal: November 11th, 2018

>Another election. A fresh coat of paint for the slaughterhouse. People easily fooled. Confuse loud for tough. King from kingdom. Some novelty in rich corrupt windbag promising to be a rich corrupt windbag. No one will stop the march of the cattle, or keep the pests out of the sausage. Still better than alternative.

>Riots starting in response to election. More excuse to steal than political protest. Combined with police brutality protest. Will show them police are not so harsh in comparison.

>>91825266
>Possible satanic angle? Investigate further. Wholefoods to pagan rituals link.