Anastasia on Broadway, based on Don Bluth's animated fi

>>91810514
yo but where's Rasputin tho

>>91811218
Not in the show, because they've made the show historically plausible, which included removing supernatural elements.

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>>91811283
well then what's the point

That new song sounds pretty ass. Still a great OST, hope they didn't cut out too many songs.

Also, is St. Petersburg really that gloomy and bleak?

>>91811327
To tell an interesting, dramatic historical "what if" story using lush music and costumes. That doesn't require including a ridiculous caricature of Rasputin who is also an undead wizard controlling an army of glowing green demon bats.

>>91811378
Listen, im fine with all that, but if they got rid of "in the dark of the night" there is no point.

>>91811366
I prefer the Hartford version of "Land of Yesterday," the Broadway version is too expositional about the exiled Russians compared to Hartford, where it was a fun, silly, wild bring down the house number with lyrics about their new life thrown in for good measure.

The only song cut is In the Dark of the Night for obvious reasons. They still use the melody from In the Dark of the Night at various points in the show, including a melancholic new song that is probably going to be the one people consider the best of all the new numbers.

>>91811403
Why would they include a song that clashes with the rest of the music and has no place considering there's no character who would sing it?

>>91811452
Because it's good and maybe they could finally do it justice without a bunch of animated crap flying around and ruining the mood?

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Looks good, musicals about Russia are always interesting

>>91811526
But again, there's no place for the song in the show. No character who would sing it, and no moment where it would work. Why would they include it when it would serve no purpose? They can't do it justice when it doesn't belong in the story.

Saw the preview production bootleg, hopefully we get a Broadway one soon.

I wonder how much of the show's book will have changed because of the lawsuit. I hope they kept the line about smoking in her presence.

>>91811554
This is a complete non-issue. Remember the song about a bugspray salesman in Evita?

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>>91811283
>>91811378
>>91811452
>>91811554
BOOOOORIIIIIIING

>>91811625
>wahhh why don't they have my dancing bug song in the show :(

>>91811718
fuck you cunt the dancing bugs were the best part

>>91811283

>They cut out Rasputin and all the goofy magic shit, as well as the best song in the movie

Gay as fuck.

Did they at LEAST relocate Tsarina Dagmar to Denmark where she's supposed to be then? That change always made my autism act up.

>>91811936
Rasputin's portrayal didn't trigger your autism?

>>91811994

No, because it was soooo far out there that there was basically no connection to the real thing.

Meanwhile moving the Tsarina to Paris serves no point other than misinforming the audience about the actual history, all because the writers were scared the brain of the average audience member might explode if exposed to the name of a European city they hadn't heard of before.

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thank goodness they got rid of this horrid pink dress from Hartford

>>91812051
They used Paris because the original Yul Brynner movie had Anna meeting the Tsarina in Paris, but there she was just visiting the city.

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>>91812194
>someone else that recognizes the 1956 movie

Oh please, if it should not be you... don't ever tell me.

every time /co/ has a theatre thread i feel a tiny ounce of glee.

i like the songs but i'm not super excited about the show desu... if i had my choice of russia-based musicals i'd go for Natasha, Pierre and The Great Comet of 1812

and not at all related but i'm seeing angels in america in london in august, and hamilton in march wheeeeeeee

>>91812398

>tfw tickets for the international premiere of Prince of Egypt April next year

Fucking excite

Reminder that the Jews in Bluths company forced him to make Rasputin the bad guy because the real bad guys of the revolution are their communist kike brothers

They pissed on the grave of a good man to protect themselves

They're going to be livestreaming a song from opening night: http://www.broadwayworld.com/article/ANASTASIA-to-Audio-Livestream-In-a-Crowd-of-Thousands-During-Tonights-Opening-Performance-20170424

>>91812486
I found out that one of my current flatmates had never seen Prince of Egypt before, so that was quickly corrected. I'm sure it's fantastic on stage, that /soundtrack/

>>91811526
>20XX
Complaining about
>animated crap
on /co/
I have no -fw- for this.

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>>91811283
>no in the dark of the night
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>91811283
>base the show around the animated movie
>remove literally the only good thing about the entire movie
Why even bother to use the movie as source then ?

>>91811283
So they made it even more of a generic barebones princess story by removing any magical elements and the only fun character.
Who are they trying to appeal to here ? I love my russian history but there's none of it in Anastasia. And the few people that like the movie mostly like it for the animation and Rasputin.
I simply don't see the point to this.

>>91813755
>implying Once Upon a December isn't another good thing about the movie
that's it though

maybe Journey To the Past

>>91813872

I unironically like Rumor in Saint Petersburg

>>91813942
yes, rumor in st petersburg and learn how to do are my two favorite songs and at least we are getting those so is not all bad

>>91813847
considering its selling extremely well and already has a huge fanbase of varIowa ages, I don't think they'll have a problem with appeal.

>>91813847
the new show has a lot more actual history compared to the film.

The Tsar and his family deserved to die.

>>91810514
>Anastasia on Broadway, based on Don Bluth's animated film, opens tonight!
>Proceeds to explain how the broadway version cuts the antagonist and the most recognizable song from the film.

Just say it's a new product entirely at that point, then. It's more loosely tied to the Don Bluth original than nuPPG is tied to PPG.

>>91814624
Including the children?

>>91814631
it's still based on the Don Bluth film.

>>91814631
I've never really understood this line of reasoning. All "based on" adaptations change things, sometimes significantly. The 1997 Bluth film is still considered "based on" the 1956 live action film (and the 1952 play) despite some serious changes. The Broadway version of Aladdin is still considered "based on" the Disney Aladdin film despite some serious changes. And the new musical doesn't really have that many significant changes minus removing the supernatural element. Almost all of the story beats are the same, the details are just changed in certain cases to be more historically plausible.

For instance: in the film, Anya/Dimitri/Vlad have to jump off the train because the demon bats sent by Rasputin are hunting them down. In the new show, they have to jump off the train because it's been stopped by the police and people with forged papers (so, everyone, since the train is full of fleeing aristocrats and intellectuals) are being taken off and shot.

Or, in the film, Anya has a nightmare about her family because of Rasputin's demon bats. In the show, Anya has a nightmare about her family because she survived but can't quite remember the traumatic execution at Ipatiev, and the trauma gives her nightmares.

>>91810514
Okay, I'll watch it. Those performances looked impressive.

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>>91812398
>hamilton in march wheeeeeeee

Goddamn it.

I got into musicals because of Hamilton and it's horrible that there is nothing with the same kind of style out there,the closest that I found was Jesus Christmas Super Star.

I just love the mix of hip hop into it, and Miranda is a damn good storyteller with the musics.

>>91816947
there's In The Heights

>>91816947
Go away, you Hamiltonfags are ruining musicals.

>>91817165
musicals ruined musicals well before Hamilton

>>91812051
Paris smells less of fish than Denmark.

>>91816947
>Jesus Christmas Super Star

What
do
you
mean
by
THAT

>>91812398
There is really nowhere to to talk theater on this site.

>>91814624
He was not a very good Tsar. He should have listened to his uncle and actually learned something about his people.

>>91817602
same for ballet. I wish we had a /performing arts/ board.

Speaking of ballet, I'm glad they kept the Swan Lake turns in "Quartet at the Ballet" as per the footage in the OP. I heard they moved them to a different spot in the song though because the applause from the audience was drowning out the next verse.

>>91817165
Webber ruined musicals way before that.

>>91810514
Think this will win a Tony Award or two?

>>91817687
Dear Evan Hansen and The Great Comet will probably lead the pack

>>91816947
I mean there is In The Heights, and I'd argue that the next closest thing is Sondheim in terms of pace (the Witch raps in Into The Woods, goddamn it)?

I had to perform Getting Married Today for a cabaret and goddamn, that's one hell of a song to get down.

>>91817165
>Hamilton is ruining musicals
>Not "Musical version of a movie #850"
come on, guy

>>91817602
If there was, would it be my new favourite board? Probably.

>>91817687
The only award I think it's a shoe-in for is Costume Design. But I guess it depends on the reviews it gets, too... we'll see tonight.

I guess we'll have an even better idea once the Drama Desk nominations are out, those are usually a decent preview of Tony nominations.

>>91817552
That
Is not
a
musical

>>91817602
I wish there was but it would probably be slower than /po/

If anyone wants to hear the song that incorporates a melody from In the Dark of the Night, the show (for some reason) uploaded a soundboard of it a few months ago from the Connecticut production: https://vimeo.com/channels/939796/188033071

Melody starts at about :45. The song is sung by former aristocrats/intellectuals and other people fleeing Russia at the train station, including Anya, Dimitri and Vlad.

I'm guessing they didn't mean for people to hear these since they're technically private videos but, eh.

So it's basically a "realistic" reboot of the movie?

>>91817947
Pretty much

>>91817791
Reviews will probably be mixed to positive. If Isherwood was still writing for the NYT he'd probably slam it.

>>91810514
Is the cast recording out?

I don't like they took the best song of the movie from the play though.

I think the musical is at least worth a hear because Ramin is in it.

>>91818779
Not yet. It comes out on June 9th.

I wish they had taken a nod from Groundhog Day and recorded the cast recording months back so it would be released closer to opening.

>>91811283
>Remove this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocm8QdNR_d8

So you WANT the show to be shit.

>>91818842
>June 9th

Fucking JUNE?
What were they thinking.
Most shows of this season have already released it.

>>91818886
Eh, to be fair about 2 months out from the show's opening is the norm. Dear Evan Hansen opened in December and the recording came out in February. Groundhog Day is unusual in that it came out, what, a week after opening?

Also, the show is currently undergoing a lawsuit so the producers may have been wary about spending the money to record until they were sure the show was selling well.

>>91811283
>Remove the best character
>Remove the best song
>Remove the most interesting aspect of the movie

It's like they WANT it to suck.

Is this the animatic thread?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZfuShr27WA

Did Spibbles/TeeVee/GalactiBun/Whatever the fuck she calls herself nowadays delete everything?

>>91811994
Why would it?

>Dark undead Russian sorcerer whose motive is to fulfill his destiny of killing the Romanovs
>Killing the fun with "muh accuracy in a children's film"

>>91818870
>>91818961
Why are you samefagging?

>>91817852
>https://vimeo.com/channels/939796/188033071
OK at least they didn't completely forget it, but its still sad it isn't more present

>>91819024
>why would it?

because his autism was triggered by the grandmother being in Paris instead of Denmark? so "Muh accuracy" should have been triggered elsewhere too.

>>91819031
It's also used throughout the show as part of the instrumental score. Same with At the Beginning, which is referenced twice towards the end.

>>91818983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ixs9wihKmU

>>91819025
"In The Dark of the Night" is the most popular thing out of the movie. Even if someone doesn't like the movie they always say "Well, at least that song was pretty catchy".

It's no surprise that most people are remember fondly that song and Rasputin.

>>91819025
I only wrote one of those, champ.

>The idea was so fucking retarded that everyone unanimously agrees on even how to phrase it.

>>91819077
well that's pretty neato. The best part of the song IMO is that it feels like a bombastic meatloaf ballad, so its kind of sad that the song isn't used for the same tone, but at least it is present in the production.

I'll keep my eye out for this one for sure.

>>91819111
>two people posted within minutes of each other with the same stupid CAPITALIZATION and phrasing

Okay, honey.

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>>91819176

I need to charge my phone.

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Curtain goes up soon.

Liz Callaway is at the premiere.

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Aw the Great Comet cast send Anastasia this

>>91819094
>>91818983
Is Dear Evan Hansen the new animatic hit thing

>>91820988
it's the new hotness musical

>>91816947
Miranda is a hack and Hamilton is an embarrassment to rap.

But I'm glad musical theatre is getting popular again so I'll ignore that.

>>91811283

But what's the point?

Reviews are getting posted. So far 3 mixed-to-positive, 2 positive.

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>>91811625
>he doesn't like historical accuracy

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>>91817761
>"Musical version of a movie #850"
I seriously hope Matilda The Musical is the exception to that rule, because that shit almost teabagged and pissed all over Wicked for me. Matilda The Musical was that amazing

>>91822068
only one negative so far, and it's just more or less "I was bored, but I'm apparently alone since everyone around me was loving it."

>>91822287
your chart doesn't make any sense

>>91822246
If we're being historically accurate, Anastasia is gunned down with rest of her family. The end.

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Don't mind me, shittiest musical ever coming through

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>>91822444
you seem to have posted the wrong Webber musical, friend

>>91821139
In The Heights is good and Moana's the best disney soundtrack in a while

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>>91822399
It's pity that russian civil war is not so popular in culture. Such historically significant event should be a thing

does she have magic powers

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>>91811283
yeah because rasputin wasn't historically plausible. they could just have removed the magical stuff and give him a knife or something

>>91822399
The show isn't claiming to be historically accurate. It's now more historically plausible. Hence, no supernatural elements.

>>91822814
Rasputin being the villain is not historically plausible, no.

>>91822540
At least Cats didn't piss all over a musical's legacy like Love Never Dies did.

Shit was fanfiction tier.

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>>91822814
Why is Razputin is so popular in the west? For me, he just was a typical adventurer, who managed to get too close to the tzar family
There were more interesting personalities during russian revolution, like, for instance, baron von Ungern, who tried to reestablish Mongol Empire in the chaos of civil war

They're live on their Facebook page, broadcasting the Anya/Dimitri duet. Should be starting soon.

>>91823192
aaaany minute now

>>91823369
it's starting!

>>91823090
because he was a magical girl

>>91823090

hell they could've done a cartoon on some of the more interesting bolshevik revolutionaries

even Stalin has a more interesting origin than razputin

>>91822068
And then there's the bizarre review claiming it's a "trump era musical" and saying Anya is like Ivanka Trump

da fuck

>>91822928
at least Love Never Dies didn't embed itself in the cultural consciousness and fool people into thinking it was good

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>>91823742
>stage version of a 1997 animated remake of a 1956 movie taking place in 1926
>trump era musical
what?

>>91823742
>>91823925
Russia=Trump maybe?

>>91817165
Hamiltonfags are ruining historical discussion. Musicals have been dead for decades.

>Rasputin Gone
>No "In the Dark of the Night" Broadway Production

WHAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT OF ADAPTING IT THEN

>>91824199
>rent
>Hamilton

You're so much of a cuck it isn't even funny. Stop.

>>91824199
don't be so fucking entry level, anon

>>91824199

>bait.jpg

>>91823925
>>91823957
I don't want to link it and give this review attention so I'll just post quotes. It's fucking bizarre.

>John F. Kennedy had “Camelot.” Barack H. Obama had “Hamilton.” Only 100 days into his presidency, Donald J. Trump already has his own Broadway musical. “Anastasia” opened Monday at the Broadhurst Theatre, and it’s a show that pays homage to the kleptocracy that was the Romanovs of Russia. How could our president not be thrilled?

>Early in the show, a Jared Kushner lookalike sings of the glories of his pre-Communist nation in the song “My Petersburg,” even though the place has been renamed Leningrad. Later, the Ivanka Trump-like heroine shows her royal privilege by insisting that a fellow traveler ask her permission to smoke on the train ride from the U.S.S.R. to the West. Remember, this is 1927.

>>91824470
>Remember, this is 1927
what does this even mean

>>91824541
I think the idea is that everyone smoked around that time.

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Someone should make a musical about Stalin.

First act the main character is just Joseph and his wife Ketevan just trying to get by on Imperial Russia.
It's a very sappy first act about love and whatnot. Then Ketevan dies and Joseph sings: "This creature softened my heart of stone. She died and with her died my last warm feelings for humanity" while his friends say something about how Stalin looked changed after that day.
Act 2 with a recap of Stalin's rise to power, world war 2 and him ordering some purge.

>>91824291
Since when is Matilda The Musical and Book Of Mormon considered entry level?

>>91825074
Book of Mormon is peak entry level

>>91824541
I think he's trying to say that... people smoked? I don't know.

The point of the scene is that it's one of those moments where Anya suddenly shows flashes of being a grand duchess, since you would not smoke in front of royalty without permission. It's actually a direct reference to the Yul Brynner film.

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>>91812051
Paris is prettier than Denmark.

>>91811283
>historically plausible.

if they're going that route why not take it to the fullest. cut out the singing and dancing and just have the entire play be Anastasia huddling in a corner screaming while soviets stand over her body and bayonet her a couple of dozen times. it can end with her being tossed into a ditch with her family and being set on fire..

>>91822814
I'm like 90% certain that's Ashton Kutcher in a dress.

>>91825286

Actually, no, it would be a bunch of Russian criminals stabbing and shooting them for hours. The Romanovs kept jewelry in their clothing so no one could be killed cleanly. They also wanted to fuck up the corpses so that no one used their bodies as symbols.

>>91811378

Rasputin was real and he was pretty bonkers. If Alan Moore can do snake god stuff, do can Rasputin

>>91825286
Because they are still telling the "what if Anastasia survived?" story, they are just telling it in a more dramatically mature and historically plausible way. There are vast gulfs between "a historical 'what if' drama" and the real murders.

>>91825341
>for hours

No. It took about 25 minutes. Which is still an eternity in terms of execution. And Anastasia and Maria were still alive when the bodies were brought outside. They regained consciousness and starting screaming, so they were stabbed some more and then eventually had their faces bashed in with the butt end of a rifle. Anastasia died choking on her own blood and teeth.

>>91825542
Well that doesn't seem very nice.

>>91822068
NY Times review is negative, and more comparisons with Trump. Get those clicks.

>>91825857
the workers can't be stopped comrade.

>>91825938
the only reference to Trump is in the second to last sentence. And apparently Anastasia just reminds people of Ivanka for some reason.

>>91822928
Phantom of the Opera was too, it's loosely based on a novel. It was just infinitely better in every single regard ten times over.

Jesus and Jospeh could arguably make one or two historians frown as well, but those are good too

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PLEASE HELLO AMERICA BACK
/CO/MMODORE PERRY SEND HELLO
ALSO COMES MEMORIAL PLAQUE
PRESIDENT DONALD WISH BESTOW

http://www.classicstage.org/season/pacific-overtures/

Where were you when they decided to stage a revival of the best musical of all time?

>>91826256
>Phantom
>good

>>91826303
I dunno, when did the Ragtime revival happen again?

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>>91826184
I wonder if the Ivanka references would be kept in if they hadn't changed the outfit just a few days ago. It used to be a pink dress (pic related), then they changed it to this white blazer and skirt number (it's in the video footage) that looks more like something out of a country club. It actually reminds me of Galinda's white dress in Act I of Wicked, so maybe people are associating it with that snootiness?

>>91826336
Damn good. Can't think of any stage show that genuinely got to more people, when the lights come down people were actually screaming. The music's pretty good too, but unlike Evita the original recording sort of pales in comparison to later performances.

Did you just watch that godawful movie or something?

>>91826392
the plot is one-dimensional, the music is Webber-repetitive, and all the characters are cunts

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>>91822540
>see clips of Cats musical
>see updated
>Rum Tum Tugger is dressed up hip hop style, rapping and breakdancing

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>>91826606
>oh no, this terrible musical is now terrible is a different way!

>>91826303
waiting for a bootleg.

So what are your guys thoughts on Joseph and his Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat?

>>91827327
I like it. I used to be really into this song when I was younger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVWpgmiIbas

>>91827383
I really like the first five or six songs, but i'm not really fan of the last half.

>>91827327
it's ok but a lot of the songs are gimmicky shit

>>91827327
It's no Jesus Christ Superstar.
>>91827612
Just for clarification's sake, what would you consider gimmicky shit?

>>91827699
>one's a country song
>one's a French song
>one's a calypso song
>one is Elvis
>one is just listing as many colors as Webber could remember

>>91827746
>one is just listing as many colors as Webber could remember

But thats the best lyrics of the entire show

>>91827780
true

but it's still a bit of a gimmick

>>91810514
I'm more interested in the upcoming Prince of Egypt musical.

>>91823090
>Why is Razputin is so popular in the west?
Because he was a wizard with a giant penis and a baller beard. Thats it.

>>91812398
>hamilton in march
>supporting revisionist propaganda
ugh

>>91827800
I'm looking forward to the butthurt when the producers are idiots and cast white people

>>91827746
>>91827780
>>91827791
Tim Rice wrote the lyrics but apparently someone else wrote the colour bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwtjuVFxOT8

>>91827866
They're making an animated version.

>>91827965
Joseph's was always a pretty out there musical, so i think it will fit the animated genre nicely.

Who is making it?

Underrated song from underrated musical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q40kvR43aXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNH9ajWCWI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W2FvV2hJNo

If I were a Netflix exec, I would've just licensed the 5 best songs from the musical for the American movie without having to directly adapt the stage show.

>>91828071
Do you think they will ever bring Death Note to the West?

I guess if the Netflix movie is a hit

>>91828010
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/joseph-and-the-amazing-technicolor-dreamcoat-animated-film-stx-elton-john-1202017946/
I'd rather Book of Mormon, Little Shop of Horrors, or Heathers, but this still excites me.

>>91824199
Book of Mormon is the biggest fucking meme musical

>>91811718
not him but to be fair, dancing bugs was pretty shit. Still a great song though, I wish it was somehow reworked to be even more threatening. As well as to fix some of the legit terrible lyrics.

>>91828198
>She'll be gone
>I can feel that my powers are slowly returning
>Tie my sash and a dash of cologne
>For that smell as the pieces fall into place
>I'll see her crawl into place
>Dasvidanya, Anya, your grace, farewell

I have no idea what you're talking about

>>91817602
Actors talk so much shit about eachother. That board would be pettier than /fa/

>>91824199
replace hamilton with Jesus Christ Superstar

>>91828337
>directors shit-talking actors
>tech shit-talking actors and directors
>actors shit-talking each other
it would be glorious

>>91828337
seriously, what's up with this? Is it because the medium is competitive?

>>91824202
Right?!

>>91828115
>Do you think they will ever bring Death Note to the West?
Frank Wildhorn isn't a big draw here, unfortunately. I'm holding out hope, though.

>>91828434
Yes. It's a super competitive industry filled with people fighting to validate their egos and dodge rejection. It's no secret that actors are insecure weirdos. Source: I'm an actor.

>>91816947
There's Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson where Andrew Jackson is a pop punk emo bitch. It's a fun show that's sadly underrated.

>>91828115
No. They didn't even bother doing the full English concept recording like they normally do for Wildhorn shows.

I can possibly see him releasing the English rights eventually and it being regional... though what theaters would choose to do it, I don't know.

>>91827850
They already had to cancel a concert reading of the show from last year or the year before because they cast white people. And Norm Lewis. But, mostly white people.

>>91828776
probably a bunch of college black box theaters

>>91828793
That's dumb. This myth that Egypt=Africa=black people needs to die.

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>>91823090
Hugo Pratt knows what's up.

>>91827850
They'll cast people from north Africa and blacks will chimp out because they don't know what is the Sahara.

>>91828930
they could at least cast brown people, cuz Egypt sure wasn't white

>>91828930
They didn't cast Norm Lewis because "Egyptian people were black!" nor were they making the statement "Egyptian people were black!!!!!" because they cast him. Is Disney saying that Middle Eastern people are latino because they cast Adam Jacobs as Aladdin? Nah. They cast Norm Lewis because he's a powerful baritone and his voice matches the character (Jethro) well.

>>91828976
Fair enough. Might as well cast exclusively Egyptians and jews then.

>>91828878
Or an anime convention. They did just have the Sailor Moon musical cast go to a convention in Houston to perform an abridged version of the latest show, after all.

>>91829107
the only two characters who are allowed to be white are Hotep and Huy

>>91829107
Sure.
You will only find success in broadway if you cast jews

>>91812486
Prince of egypt without the stunning animated visuals seems a bit risky. The soundtrack better be on point

>>91829266
To make it more realistic we're going to take chorus of The Plagues out of it.
Playing with the Big Boys Now was also too cartoony.

>>91829289
well then what's the point

>>91829324
No you don't get it.

Christian Borle will be in it.

>>91828678
Any conservatives in the theater? I know they ain't in Hollywood.

>>91829141
>They did just have the Sailor Moon musical cast go to a convention in Houston to perform an abridged version of the latest show, after all.
Is there a video of that? Sounds awesome.

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>>91829394
this is the funniest thing I've read all day

>>91829402
yes, on youtube, look up anime matsuri sailor moon. there's a steady cam version. Personally I'm not a big fan of the rebooted musicals, at least music-wise they're lackluster IMO compared to the original run from 1993-2005. The only actress that sings well in the new shows is the former Takurazuka star playing Tuxedo Mask.

my favorite song from the old run, nothing in the reboot musicals compares : https://youtu.be/VZe3a_yDQb4

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>No rasputin

>>91823090
Because
https://youtu.be/kvDMlk3kSYg

RA RA RASPUTIN LOVER OF THE RUSSIAN QUEEN THERE WAS A CAT THAT REALLY WAS GONE
RA RA RASPUTIN RUSSIAS GREATEST LOVE MACHINE IT WAS A SHAME HOW HE CARRIED ON

>>91829687
Millions of dollars in ticket sales say otherwise.

>>91829741
NYT roasted it, it won't last

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>>91829741
Getting trashed in reviews, people will bail. All is good, anon.

>>91829755
>>91829776
Aladdin was roasted, too. It's still one of the best selling shows on Broadway.

>>91829962
Aladdin had the Disney train behind it

>>91829687
>thinking Rasputin is the only good thing in a film with a fucking fantastic soundtrack

>>91829976
And? Didn't stop the Little Mermaid, Tarran and Hunchback from flopping.

>>91830035
Tarzan*

fuck I'm tired

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>>91830021
>Cutting the best song from that soundtrack

>>91830035
Hunchback did great in Jersey and San Diego but Gisnep didn't feel confident about putting forward such a dark show tied to their brand

Little Mermaid did reasonably well, it just wasn't Lion King/Aladdin

No one likes Tarzan

>>91814624
Found the jewcommie.

>>91814918
Yes

If they lived, then they'd just be a symbol for reaction.

>>91827327
Perfection. None of that edgy, political horseshit that makes nerds feel like watching song and dance is mature, just a fun little story with fun songs and fun lyrics.

OH NO

NOT HE

>>91831996
>watching song and dance is mature
I feel like this statement is particularly ironic when said on /co/

>>91832016
Partially intentional

Herodes and the title track of Jesus sounds straight out of Jospeh, just shooting the shit and having fun with the whole idea. I'm not saying they should've made the whole thing like that but it probably would've been better.

What they do to some performances of Jesus, dear fucking christ.

>>91831996
>>91832094
>implying Joseph is anything other than middle-of-the-road mediocre
>implying it's better than JCSS
wew

>>91828145
>Little Shop of Horrors

Come on, you can't beat the live action movie. Best-looking special effects I ever did see.

>>91832193
that ending, tho

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>>91822444
Don't' mind me, best musical in recent memory coming through.

>tfw this shit lost to Kinky Boots for Best Musical at the Tony's

>>91833447
I saw it on tour and cried about feeling old

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>>91833735

>>91824199
>Rent
>Hamilton
>Either of those better than Avenue Q

Disgusting

>>91832094
Ted Neeley is still the best Jesus.

Everyother Jesus is insufferably smug.

>>91833293
The shit happy ending or the actual stage accurate director's cut ending?

>>91834535
Shit happy ending

>>91834487
I prefer Drew Sarich's Jesus vocally to a lot of other Jesus...es that came after Ted Neely, but his acting for Jesus is so boring. It's not even smug, just bland. His Judas is fucking god-tier though.

>>91823090
Because he was an interesting motherfucker, and when the man somehow survives multiple assassinations, poisonings, and other bullshit and has to be put down like Boris the Blade, then you know there was something odd about him.

>>91834934
to be fair, the "he survived all these things and wouldn't die!" is a myth propagated by his executioners to make him sound otherworldly/disturbing and thus help justify why he had to be killed in order to "save the country."

>>91834974
Seemed to me that he was a really decent dude, with a huge penis and an immunity to poison.

>>91825542
>But Anastasia was still alive, and Marie, too, for as their bodies were carried to a Fiat truck that stood waiting in the courtyard, first one, then the other, suddenly sat up, coughing blood, moaning, screaming. They were outside now, and the men couldn’t shoot them; the bayonets came out, slashing through the air, but the knives struck the hidden jewels. And so someone grabbed a rifle, turned it around, and hammered away at the barely conscious faces, driving the wooden stock down again and again and again. Battered into silence, choking on splintered bone and shattered teeth, drowning in her own blood - this was how Anastasia died

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>>91835022
The Russian revolution is not about LOOG AT MY BENIS I AM FUGGED TZARINA t. razputin
It's about milloins of people lives, sacrifised to the utopia, that had never became a thing
Razputin is an absolutely boring peson, a literlly meme

The show is leading the Outer Critics Circle Awards nominations! http://variety.com/2017/legit/news/outer-critics-circle-nominations-2017-full-list-1202394695/

I recently watched this movie for the first time. It was really good.

Was the animation rotoscoped?

>ywn hear a big broadway version of in the dark if the night
Why live?

>>91836976
*of the night
>fuck you autocorrect

>>91834974
Its actually more interesting that the conspiracy to assassinates him was instigated by a British agent.

>>91834832
The problem is they made Seymore too likeable in that version, so it doesn't really feel like he deserves such an undignified end. A shame they couldn't fit in the real ending anyway, Don't Feed the Plants is a great song.

>>91834535
Rick Moranis was too nice for the bad ending.

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Don't mind me, just busy being too good for mainstream audiences.

>>91836862
most of it, yes

>>91811283
Can you really say it's based off the don bluth film then? You're getting rid of the main villain!

>>91837468
>>91837489
This. Cutting out "Now (It's Just The Gas)" and removing Seymour actively tricking Mushnik into the plant (even adding in a "...sir?" As though he was trying to earn him) made the original ending too harsh.

If you want Seymour to get his karmic death, you need to have him unequivocally responsible for Mushnik and the dentist's deaths. Pussyfooting around just ruins it.

>>91813147
>Jewish
>communist
Uh...huh. Look man, I know you think it's edgy to be a /pol/tard now that /b/tards are no longer fashionable, but at least make some damn sense.

>>91813847
This. Anastasia was confirmed dead. Killed and buried in the same mass grave as the rest of the royal family.

>>91814631
It's clear they want nostalgia to fuel your want to see it, not it's own merits.

>>91837502
One Night In Bangkok says otherwise

>>91838375
The character names, music, plot beats, faux grandmother back story, even some of the costumes, etc, are from the film. So yes. The Bluth film is still considered based on the Bergman film despite differences. Groundhog Day, Matilda, any musical based on source material are still considered based on despite differences.

>>91835604
A lot of people blamed Rasputin over incompetence of the Tsarist regime because of his unnecessary influence on the Tsar's wife. Placing the actual revolutionaries as the enemy would imply that Tsarism was not perfect, as the revolutionaries blamed society's social ills on the Tsarist system, so they placed all the blame on some pseudo-adviser occultist that held more power then he needed to have, rather then well, the failure of Tsarism.

The reason why the Russian Revolution happened wasn't because of Communism's utopian tendencies, but that both the Tsarist and Provisional Government were not competent enough to handle the tasks necessary to ensure society wouldn't just fall apart given the precarious situation Tsarist Russia had placed itself in WWI.

>>91813847
>I love my russian history but there's none of it in Anastasia.

In the new show there is a significant amount more history, to the point where the writer of the new book said that was one of the goals of the show was to make it more historical.

>>91823090
I think it's the dick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhPvJOnHotE

But seriously, he's a larger than life figure, practically a tall tale.

Vid /co/ related.

Man, I wish Disney had put in the extra effort to make the Hunchback of Notre Dame broadway ready

That cast recording is amazing

>>91840601
In a way I'm glad it didn't go to Broadway, because I like what a lot of regional theaters are doing with the show. The production with an actual deaf actor as Quasimodo, for instance.

>>91840619
Thats fair.


Honestly, all I hope is that if they continue to make live action remakes of the movies, they get to Hunchback and make it like the theater version.

>>91840601
>Thai Mol Piyas changed for the worse from staging to cast recording
>the stupid fucking Court of Miracles reorchestration
there were some flaws

>>91840678
How did they mess up the first one?

>>91840678
It wasn't changed from the staging to cast recording. It was changed from the initial La Mirada production to Papermill, and the cast recording is true to the Papermill Production.

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>>91840619
Same with The Little Mermaid. If it hadn't flopped on Broadway, we never would have gotten the versions without the Heelys.

>>91840793
Minus the small epilogue narration bit of course

>>91830057
>No one likes Tarzan

Them's fightin' words, nigga!

Unless you're referring to the Broadway show and, to some extent, the world in KH.

>>91840857
>Unless you're referring to the Broadway show
>comments referring to how shows did on Broadway
>gee could they be referring to the Broadway show

>>91840749
OG was a lot more upbeat and less blatantly aobut sex:
https://youtu.be/lKZbtLxxPfg?t=56m27s

>>91840900
I wanna say this was the OG version but I could be wrong
https://youtu.be/gNYUdVFRDXE?t=58m46s

I'm pretty sure because I think they started with the ending narration that said Quasimodo took Esmeralda's body to the crypt and died there but removed it later, hence why it wasn't on the cast recording.

But thats just speculation and I have no real idea which came first
Either way, the different song was on stage first before the recording.

>>91840965
La Jolla was before Paper Mill

>>91840992
Ignore me then

I personally like the newer version of the tavern song. More musically interesting.

I am glad they didn't include the epilogue narration in the cast recording, would be too sad.

>>91840965
The Papermill version is not the OG version, this is: https://youtu.be/lKZbtLxxPfg?t=56m27s

>>91840837
Most of the narration in the show isn't on the cast recording, so I wasn't surprised they chopped it out. I hate incomplete recordings but, what'cha gonna do. Anastasia's cast recording won't have the creepy Land of Yesterday Reprise, well, assuming they didn't cut it before opening on Monday.

I just wanna see this song on the big screen honestly.
https://youtu.be/gNYUdVFRDXE?t=1h47m29s

>>91841392
it probably wouldn't be Michael Arden so it wouldn't be as good

>>91841481
I trust them to get good voices when it counts.
They got good singers for the songs in Beauty and the beast that required actual finesse

But its true, it wouldn't be the same without him

>>91841505
>They got good singers for the songs in Beauty and the beast that required actual finesse

Who?

>>91841720
Luke Evans was best in show, I like Josh Gad even though hes more of a character singer than a straight up beautiful singer, Ewan McGregor did a surprisingly great job as Lumiere, and the singer for mrs potts was appropriately done. And then there was the opera singer lady

>>91837502
If I had a dollar for ever time I've sung I Know Him So Well at the top of my lungs when I'm wasted...

>>91841817
Anthem is better

>>91841817
Why hasn't Chess been revived already, goddamn it

>>91841866
Do you realize how many revivals Chess has had?

It has like 5 different versions already

>>91841866
>>91841876
Chess has been done and done again.
I say we bring back Heathers.

>keep meaning to see Wicked
>somehow keep getting tickets to rock musicals instead

Still, at least Bat Out of Hell is reviewing well so I've that to not-dread.

>>91841788
Ridicule me if you must, but I prefered the 2017 version of Gaston and Be Our Guest to the older ones. They felt grander and less...hokey for lack of a better word.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXbc74XcU20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI0dP9Ubyco

>>91842065
When you've got enough friends who fancy themselves the next Idina Menzel/Shoshana Bean/etc and want to make everyone sit through Defying Gravity for the nth time, you won't want to see Wicked anymore

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>>91828715
Severely fucking underrated. I really think it's because it's Andrew Jackson. They could rewrite Hamilton the way they did, but Andrew Jackson's a harder sell for a theatre-going crowd.

>>91811283
Rasputin and Bartok were there because they needed to make it more like a Disney animated film of the '90s, which meant having a supernatural villain and an animal sidekick.

Without those elements the movie would have been too much like a conventional Broadway musical, and would have flopped with kids.

But being too much like a conventional Broadway musical is more helpful in an actual Broadway musical.

>>91842076
I'd rather have hokey. I hate the trend in musicals nowadays where they try to make every single number a showstopper.

>>91842254
I mean those WERE the showstoppers of the movie so its not bad that they sound like they are showstoppers.

>>91829394
Much like Hollywood, if they're there, they're biting their tongues so fucking hard it's a wonder they can ever speak again.

>t. Actor who goes on 4chan

>every few years plans for a decent film surface
>they never happen

I know it's closer to a narrated concert that a proper musical but it still blew me away when I saw it.

Also the second musical I've seen with Jason Donovan weirdly. ~20 years between them

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>>91842337

Pics are generally helpful for these things

>>91842363
Wow
Thats something

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>>91817647
>/performing arts/

I remember way back there was a great set of theater threads on /tv/ when I still went there, lots of people theorized about something like that. Who knows, maybe under Hiroshima it can happen. But sadly, I think this is right.

>>91817837
>I wish there was but it would probably be slower than /po/

Anyhow, since I never got to really talk about it on /mu/, I might as well here. What did you guys think about Lazarus? Anyone see it? I'm a huge fucking fan of Bowie and love the movie it's based on, but I heard mixed reviews of the musical. I like the track list, but I feel like the way they delivered it was a little too cleaned up, at least on the cast album.

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>>91842421
>there used to be theatre threads on /tv/
>way back
>now we've no place to discuss this sort of thing

"Nothing we can do." Not exactly true, we could always give them /tv/ !

>>91817602

It's like the Disneyland/Theme parks threads.

/co/ isn't the most apt place for them but it's by far the best place to have a decent talk about them

>>91842533
Let the moment go
Don't forget it for a moment, though
Just remembering you've had an "and"
When you're back to "or"
Makes the "or" mean more
Than it did before
Now I understand

And its time to leave the thread on /co/

>>91842533
>>91842619
The board is having a theatre thread!
I wish to post in the theatre thread, and to bump!

>>91842851
I WISH I HAD A CHIIIIIIIIIILD

I WANT A CHIIIIIIIIIILD

>>91842421
I was probably there. I'd love to talk ballet somewhere that isn't a catty ballet dancer forum where its blasphemy to like Hee Seo

>>91843316
>>91842851
You want to have your own theatre board?
(The poor site's creator had left)
A theatre board? A theatre board? Your /own/ theatre board?
Look at your posts
Look at your sage
People would laugh at you!
Nevertheless -
You still want a performing arts board, for theatre, dance, and song?

>>91816947
Lin Manuel Miranda is overrated

>>91837502
This is the true patrician musical

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Find a flaw.

I'll wait.
Hard mode: no "no Hamilton movie out yet"

>>91845434
his voice is kind of whiny

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I hope with all the attention school bomber JD is getting in animatic the tumblr chicks can get some love to the cast of Assassins and do some animatics on it.

>>91845503
All the Broadway animatics I see are of this.

https://youtu.be/eYE023CrMo4

>>91845690
this one's the big one obviously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhpnjy1PUj0

but there's a lot beyond Hamilton you casual

>>91845690
Hamilton was the one who burst the bubble but then we went to Heathers and now we're on a Dear Evan Hansen wave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epFrO55qc1A

>>91845842
It's a shame the only song they do out of Dear Evan Hansen is "Sincerely, Me"

>>91845434
he flip-flopped on whether or not the professional video recording of the original Hamilton cast would ever be released for public consumption. He initially said yes--but not for a number of years. Now he says no idea.

>>91847221
he probably just doesn't have final say on the matter

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Is Prince Charmless confirmed to make an appearance?

A glowing review from the Hartford Courant, which gave it a mixed-to-negative review when it opened in Hartford for preivews last year

http://www.courant.com/entertainment/arts-theater/hc-review-anastasia-broadway-20170424-story.html

>What matters most is that "Anastasia" has found its truest self. It is assured, it is lyrical, it is melodic, it is beautiful, it is dashing, it is moving and it is charming. It has no need for snark, irony or talking bats. It is off on a great adventure, and it was Hartford that pointed it in the right direction.

>>91847647
I unironically love that song

>>91847703
Probably the best thing out of the movie.

That, or Tuba!Tsar Nicky being a bulletproof mofo.

>the music box replica is now going for $100-300 on ebay

jesus

>>91810514
Anyone have a HQ mega link of the movie?

>>91849808
Pirate Bay, nigg

>>91847653
>and it was Hartford that pointed it in the right direction.
How self-aggrandizing.

http://stagedork.com/pages/watch.php?id=57&vidid=135

Heres a bootleg version of the Hartford version

>>91852572
That was quick

>>91852963
it was literally almost a year ago

>>91852981
OP said it was opening tonight.
Is hartford off broadway?

>>91853067
Hartford is in Connecticut

>>91853131
Nigga, I don't know where these cities are

>>91853150
Yes it's Off Broadway

>>91853150
there's this delightful function built in to your browser that you can type in unknown words or phrases and it can give as much information about it as you desire!

>>91853189
bullshit!

>>91853067
Opening on Broadway. Broadway is in New York City.

>>91850719
Yes and no. Many of the initial changes to the show in Broadway previews came directly from criticisms from Hartford critics. So it's okay to give themselves a bit of a pat here.

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What's your favourite Sondheim musical?
Mine is Merrily We Roll Along.

>>91853342
A S S A S S I N S

>>91853342
Pacific Overture

I hope the Broadway version kept the line between Dimitry and the Dowager Empress where he says something like

>God will judge you harshly, old woman. ... History already has.

when he's confronting her about not being willing to see Anya

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>>91811283

God fucking dammit lame.

Here's the extended Once Upon a December clip on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usz_fcW2aNk

>>91837502
>The asshole stops reforming and still wins
>The good guy becomes a puppet to world politics
>The romantic subplot is dropped in favor of some guy's obsession with playing games

What do you call this kind of story? Anti-consumer?

>>91854891
depressing

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>It's a "people talking in vague melody instead of actual songs with accompanying lyrics" episode

La La fuck you and your low standards

>>91855074
Are the characters supposed to be off-model in this episode?

>>91827327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SyC04sdbBs

What in the fuck

>>91840836
Holy shit this is beautiful. Is it like a Russian production or something?

>>91855347
Joseph is an experience

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>>91825197
What does she know?

Y'all got some more of dem Disney musicals?

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>>91855445
It was from the Netherlands! They did transfer the same production (same sets and costumes) to Russia and then Japan afterwards. Then they did some new American regional productions based on the same idea, but without the floating hair. This version has been doing small regional tours recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRvBTsx_U0M

>>91855623
That in 10 years she'll be playing Anya in the revival as a gimmick

>>91855678
This is way better than the version with the skates.

>ywn experience this

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>>91855672
I have a folder full of stuff. Any particular requests?

This is from a Swedish production of BATB. Clip of the guy (who is, incidentally, the Nazi Pilate from the 2000 version of Jesus Christ Superstar) singing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO_C2ZzdOKQ