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How often does the show staff realize they have dead weight and

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How often does the show staff realize they have dead weight and actually act on it and get rid of it? Props to you, Star vs
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I'm gonna miss her fat ass
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>>91783050
Never thought she'd go the way of Ferguson and Alphonso.
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>>91783515
nothing's been proven yet
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Post pics of Jackie being thicc
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>>91783050
>dead weight
>mermaid
>underwater kingdom
I don't think so, OP.
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>>91784364
>there really are people who are still this much in denial
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>>91784364
>nothing's been proven yet
She was in the S1 and S2 intros and the earth kids who aren't Janna and Marco are nowhere to be seen in S3. Expect her to be a kidnap victim at best or a secret mermaid at worst.
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>>91784663
That's the sort of mental gymnastic that made Zutaran clowns the laughing stock of the web for years
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>>91783204
No, you won't, it'll be taking up more of the background now.
>>91784442
That would mean posting every instance she's appeared on the show.
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>>91784934
Do you think Marco smelled something there? If so, what did it smell like?
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>>91783050
What happened?
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>>91785002
A sneak peak at S3 revealed that Jackie isn't going to appear in the intro anymore.
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>>91783050
Actually, that sounds like lazyness. Family Guy doesn't do the same thing by killing/vanishing characters and everyone hating Meg for no reason?
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>>91783050
I agree. Star leaving her own show so we can finally enjoy the adventures of Marco and Jackie's blossoming relationship is a fresh and welcome take on storytelling.
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>>91784761
tbf that's literally the only way I can see her appearing in S3 after the first ep at this point, I'm not personally hoping for it to happen.
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>>91784971
Sea salt. She probably perfumes her butt, which is why she didn't question Marco about his.
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>>91783050
This is why I love this show. It just does everything RIGHT.
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>>91786073
Why does he wear a towel up to his chest?
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>>91786781
Jesus christ her legs
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>>91786743
He has body image issues.
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>>91787145
Janna molesting him like that is probably not helping. Fuck her.
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Why didn't they just make her more interesting instead of doing away with her all together?
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>>91787331
They probably will. All of these people are speculating off minimal material
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>>91787183
She wishes Marco would.
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>>91787331
It's the start/middle of a hiatus and this is the only piece of new info we've gotten with regards to S3.

Naturally people will wildly speculate, especially shipfags.
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>>91783515
Is there official world on why Alf on Ferg got dumpstered so quickly? It can't have been fan reaction because they were probably writing S2 before S1 aired.
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>>91789216
Marco just outgrew them. He's probably going to outgrow Jackie too.

Difference is Jackie actually had some fans, no matter how few
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>>91783050
You know this argument may have made sense if Janna wasn't still sticking around and they didn't promote fucking Kelly
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>>91789216
Yeah, they began 2 when only 1 episode had aired and were halfway through it by the time 1 ended.

Don't have to be in the audience to know they suck. I'd bet some of the people on the crew/maybe Nefcy herself hated forcing them into stories and so decided to do away with them as soon as they could.

If I had to guess, I'd say they were conceptualized quickly as Marco's friends by one of the people responsible for helping her develop the show for television. Nefcy probably wasn't particularly attached to them, the way she would've been with Star/Marco, they largely didn't add anything to the episodes they were in, their character concepts themselves didn't offer potential plotlines (regardless of how you feel about Jackie, "Marco's crush since kindergarten" at least provided enough material for a continuing storyline).

So when Nefcy was the only one in charge, she and the crew probably either decided to axe them or cared so little about them/didn't see the need to include them that it was several episodes before they even noticed and decided to keep it that way.

Season 2 as a whole did a great job of fixing problems with the show.
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>>91789344
>Don't have to be in the audience to know they suck.
But that's the thing; if the writers could see they were garbage why were the in the show at all? Vestigial pilot characters?
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>>91789424
That's what I trying to get at with the "developed for television" mention. There were two "co-executive producers" on the first season who helped with that and then left halfway through.

They probably came up with those characters (I doubt Nefcy did since I've never seen her draw them like she has Ludo, Jackie, Oskar, etc.), some of the writers of that season wrote them into a few plots, and when Nefcy and others saw they didn't work and no longer had any obligation to use them since Nefcy would've been the only exec them, just stopped.

It takes a few episodes to really realize a character doesn't work, probably, if their concept in itself isn't terrible ("Marco's guy friend" could've been okay). But once an episode is past storyboards and recording and everything, it has to go on TV to meet the deadline even if those characters turn out to suck.
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>>91789514
That makes sense. I'd noticed a couple of directors left after the first season. Thanks anon.
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I almost dropped the show halfway through season 1 because the animation change was way too much of a downgrade for me.
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>>91789666
>tfw you hardly noticed it
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>>91789616
Yeah, a lot of the crew has remained consistent in a larger sense but when it comes to storyboarders the majority of them in 2 were totally new, and an actual writing team formed rather than just different staff writers taking on different episodes.

So in that sense it's not really surprising the writing got better when most of the people responsible for that aspect are different, and the better writers/boarders got more control.
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>>91783050
We need to write to Instagram and Twitter Daron: Bring back Jackie!
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>>91789913
No. Jackie No Backie
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>>91789913
Don't do that yet; we have no clue what to expect and most haven't even really seen the intro yet.
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>>91783050
I seriously doubt there's a single person on /co/ that actually cares if she's gone

And if there is, they're focusing on the wrong parts of this show
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is there a video of the sneak peak yet?
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>song is about friendzone
>couples are kissing
>for the first time disney entered gay territory
what did they mean by this?
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>>91790790
It lasted for half a second. Even russian media made fun of them for being this 'brave'.
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>>91783050
>voiced by Grey Delisle
>character not losing importance and disappearing a few seasons in
I swear this bitch must be asking for several thousand per syllable uttered.
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>>91791077
Logic is flawed; she voices Queen Moon too
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>>91789975
You mean Jackie's got backie.
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>>91784364
Shes out
Kelly is in
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>>91791077
What character did she voice that disappeared?
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>>91791223
Kelly really started getting important out of nowhere.
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>>91789251
>no matter how few
people love Jackie she gave us cuck star
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>>91791614
People?or just /co/?
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>>91791723
We are the people.
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>>91783050
>>91783515
Really though, the fact that she's just totally absent from the new intro is a red flag. If they were going to drop her right away, or just keep her on Earth for bit-plots, it wouldn't be an issue to have her show up for a second.

I'm still betting they're going to retool her and have her make a surprise return halfway through the season. Probably not in a good way.
If the first episode airs and she actually does come to Mewni with everyone else, then we know shit is going to hit the fan.
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>>91791097
Actors are paid by the line. Fewer lines means spending less money.
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>>91791454
Probably the first mistake the show has made. Pushing out a relevant character for an irrelevant one.
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>>91792212
thank you, surprising how few agree
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>>91792212
I agree that her introduction has been handled poorly but we still know next to nothing about her.
Nobody gave a shit about Ludo and Glossaryck before S2, but now they're some of the most popular/interesting characters.

Nothing wrong with giving her a chance, and I really doubt Jackie is actually being dropped either way.
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FATTY
FAAAT FAT FAT FAT!
GIVE ME FATTY JACKIE!!
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>>91783515
Don't forget Brittany

Hot design and all but considering where the show is going, we really don't need "Mean Girl cheerleader is mean in this week's episode" to still be a thing
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>>91791223
>>91791454
>>91792212
>>91792251
>>91792292

>Kelly is replacing Jackie

Is it Kelly's turn to cuck Star? I did not see this coming.
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>>91792473
>Is it Kelly's turn to cuck Star? I did not see this coming.
OH baby. Now that would be mind-blowing. Marco breaking up with Jackie just to fall in love with Kelly. Now the fanbase would really explode.
And then in season 4 he finally is paired with Star.
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>>91792473
Well, she does know her way around a sword.
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>>91783050
>implying Kelly is not going to become the new dead weight
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>>91792473
>>91792557
Did everybody forget about Tad?
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>>91792895
Yes. Everyone including Kelly.
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>>91792934
^
They already broke up once, they can break up again forever.
Or maybe the thing doesn't work with Marco and they come back together.
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>>91792895
>>91792979
>They already broke up once
They break up and hook up again all the time.
In "Starcrushed" I'm pretty sure she says they've broken up like three times just in the last week.

If they start making Kelly an actual character they're probably going to resolve gags like that one way or the other.
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>>91792406
The fatal blow for her, Alphonso, and Ferguson is the fact that Nefcy doesn't want the show or Star's life to revolve around the happenings at school.

I don't think anyone from Earth, Janna included, have any chance of holding relevance once S3 roles in.
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>>91793527
Just because "lol earth sucks"

Janna is one of stars closest friends, why would she be the only one not to be relevant because she's from earth?
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>>91793527
Well, they can't run one season just of deepest lore, they'll need useless characters for the SoL.
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>>91784663

>She was in the S1 and S2 intros and the earth kids who aren't Janna and Marco are nowhere to be seen in S3.
What new content have I missed?
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>>91791223

Why is a block of text written in lousy English taken as fact? What's the context?
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>>91793615
I wonder how the SoL episodes are going to work now that school isn't even a factor anymore.

Can't have Star popping back to Earth for a vacation while the kingdom is under siege.
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>>91793731
You seriously think the kingdom under siege will be shown for the whole season? This is still Star vs you know
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>>91793731
>kingdom is under siege.
Mewni isn't going to be attacked until the climax, otherwise the whole season will be of nothing.

Maybe we have Toffee attacking Rhombulus dimension in the midseason to rescue Eclipsa with the finale being the attack on the kingdom.
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>>91792335
Here's Jackie being a fatty. That drink is probably loaded with sugar. Someone as active as her should know better.

How disgusting.
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>>91792057
>Blood Moon Ball look like something out from fucking Berserk
>This is a good thing for Starcofafs
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>>91789700
wait, there was an animation change?
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>>91794178
>toffee suffers a power malfunction during a battle in the premiere and has to lay low for the entire season
>that or Glossaryck escapes Toffee causing said malfunction

can't imagine they can afford more than a few lines from Michael C. Hall
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>>91797727
We've only heard about it secondhand, but they gave an exclusive preview of the S3 intro to the Gallery Nucleus attendees.
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>>91798071
how many tv shows is he in right now
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>>91798071
They had him in 4 episodes for Season 1; I think he'll get a similar number of appearances this season.

I really feel like the main reason he had so few lines in both of his 2 appearances this season was so they could avoid having the press releases list Hall appearing and thus spoil Toffee being alive before the episodes even aired, not LOL NO MONEY

Now that the second season finale ended with his return there's no reason to keep that a secret anymore on the crew/press side, and so he'll probably get more lines etc. when they use him in the plot episodes.
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I'm behind as shit and been out the loop, what did they do to Jackie?
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>>91802978
We don't have any real proof, but people who've seen the new intro are saying she's not in it.
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>>91787145
Can confirm this
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>>91792473
IT KEEPS GROWING!
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>>91802978
Jackie is supposedly not in the intro

Which leads to 2 possible conclusions. Either she has absolutely no relevance in season 3, or she is important to the point that including her would be a spoiler.

People panic or celebrate because its a tag team with Marco and Star and Tom and Janna and Kelly, but no Jackie.
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>>91800321
Not that, the animation studio
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>>91786743
>>91803600
>>91787145
*SQUISH~*
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Does anyone have a link to the video? For some fucking reason I can't find it anywhere.
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>>91804507
What video?
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>>91804507
King chromosome
No one has a recording
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>>91804533
Do you mean the season 3 Sneek peek preview?
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>>91791822
no we're fucking not,
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>>91783050
>Props to you, Star vs
>implying that show will get rid of its titular character
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>>91790790
Police officers in gravity falls were gay.
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Wait what's happening?
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>>91805833
i still feel conflicted about it
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>>91791822
This hurts my soul.
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>>91805824
>when a mutant with telekinesis becomes a fisherman
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>>91784442
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>>91806215
This is degeneracy
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>>91792406
I miss her already.
also I wanted to see her get fatter
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>>91792979
i hope tad falls into a campfire and dies or something
he's on a whole new level of unnecessary
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>>91806239
She's still incredibly rich, so gaining weight wouldn't hurt her social dominance at all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEap0urjbxM
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>>91794775
Why do you think she's as active as she is?
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For the 16 years marco spent chasing hecapoo how many times do you think he beat off to her
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>>91806830
One every half an hour
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>>91806872
So ~27% in those eight minutes?
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>>91789344
They're losers, and thus have no place in Star's awesome life. Star fucks up with her own magic enough you don't really need normies almost getting eaten by fairy queens for humor. In a cast of funnier characters and a better straight man, they don't really shine.
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>>91805849
Nothing yet. People are just beating off to the idea of Jackie not being in the intro and then, obviously, the show
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>>91808161
>Starcofags have fallen so far
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>>91783050

I've never seen the appeal of this character. She's not interesting at all, unlike Janna. When she said

>LET'S GO TO THE MORGUE

I knew she was something special that needed to be protected.
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>>91808313
Besides being thicc
I think it largely has to do with self insert, at least at first. Jackie, though only going through minimal development, gradually went from being a distant friend to someone who was pretty good at reassuring Marco that his spaghetti isn't the end of the world. The idea of a cool girlfriend who is fun and still holds that understanding is appealing to many.

And of course, the other side is the fun in seeing how they'll break her. Collected characters like her can be mildly entertaining in their own right but they're built largely on how they react to other people. If starcrushed is any indication, a big enough reaction out of her might bring about something big.
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>>91784971
i bet it smelled like eggs haha
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>>91792473
>>91792557
>Did everybody forget about Tad?

Seriously, anyways it's obvious their going the Marco and Janna route for season 3. To much foreshadowing. It seems Starco will have to wait yet again another season.

>Marco: She also flirts with me, and makes creepy comments about calling her after my divorce.

Start of season is Marco calling Janna, and telling her he broke up with Jackie, and she needs her help in finding Star since she seems good with finding things.

>Pic related is foreshadowing of Marco's original safe kid act Janna didn't like, and now that is confident he's ready to date someone as fierce as Janna.
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>>91809367
>it's obvious their going the Marco and Janna route for season 3.
This delusion

>Start of season is Marco calling Janna, and telling her he broke up with Jackie
Janna would probably be the last person he would ever contact about something like that and he would much more likely call Tom first about looking for Star
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>>91806767
>TFW Brittney will never get fat and force the other cheerleaders to carry her to her classes because she's too lazy to walk
>Sabrina's strength will never fail her, causing Brittney to fall and crush her with her huge ass, causing Sabrina's obligatory injury for the episode

Why aren't more mean girls fat god damnit
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>>91794892
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>>91783515
Marco seems like a terrible person because he drops people like that.
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>>91811354
Which is why I don't think Jackie is disappearing even if Marco does off her so readily.

It's a flaw that needs to be brought up.
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>>91810566
With the amount of metal that's probably in Sabrina's skeleton already, I don't think she'd collapse so easily.
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>>91811379
>>91811354
It's actually kinda fascinating that Marco appears so readily able to do this. I mean, it's not strange, given the amount of foreign exchange students he's known in his life, but even still, it makes me wonder if he just forgets about people, or consciously make the decisions to remove them.
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>>91811354
He only had a peripheral friendship with Ferguson and Alphonso. They never seemed that close.

Marco was more of a third wheel in a two-person dynamic before Star came along.
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>>91811933
Another reason Jackie is slightly above them. Ferg and Alf were kept around by inertia. At least Jackie was a goal.
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>>91811933
And to think they were "the coolest kids in school".
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>>91811391
You underestimate the thiccness of Queen Brittney, and the frailty of Sabrina's noodle limbs.
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>>91811391
Sabrina's body is already made of swords?
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>>91812538
Maybe to Marco, who had basically no other friends.
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http://moringmark.tumblr.com/post/159900086443
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http://moringmark.tumblr.com/post/159939773048/half-of-my-world
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>>91812742
Basically on earth all he has is Jackie and sensei.

Calling it now, if Jackie doesn't come to Mewni, she's getting a spinoff with sensei because why not
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>>91813871
>>91814176
This makes me think that there's no way Toffee is going to keep his hands off of Marco just because Star isn't on Earth anymore.

Also, Star probably left his finger in the guestroom closet.
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>>91791454
Good.

Means for fanart.
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>>91815507
His parents don't count?
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>>91816834
I mean they'll be there no matter what.

I mean in terms of friendships he actually had to get
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>>91783050
>Jackie gets deleted from the show
>Marco still won't be Star's bf and will find another girl to be with
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>>91809367
Marco literally hates Janna, though. If he was going to call somebody for help finding Star, it'd make more sense for him to call Pony Head. Seeing as she's Star's other bestie and actually lives on Mewni. Not to mention that Pony Head can actually fight and thus wouldn't be a complete liability like Janna.
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>>91783050

the face of a girl that wants some dick for dinner
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>>91784364
T.Jackie

She's dumped, anon. Ship is dead.

D E A D
E
A
D
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>>91818130
Star wore it better desu
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>>91818482
Ship dead, but character dead?
That's the real question
Jackie is season 4 villain confirmed
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