Why are forced romance subplots constantly ruining everything?

>>91707640
/co/.

Begging the question

>>91707640
Have you seem how much fanart and discussion that exist over shipping?

Extimulating it is basicaly free advertizement.

>>91707640
creators who only feel validated when fans ship
and draw porn of their characters

>>91707652
/co/ hates romance in shows. Loving waifus doesn't preclude that, if anything it helps sometimes.

You're absolutely right, we should make the romance the main plot

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I just wanted some goddamn friendship,
Would have been happy with more tho.

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Quick! Name a show that was GREAT but was quickly ruined by forced horrible romance subplots

Easy Mode: Don't mention Samurai Jack

>>91707640

Maybe it's because nearly all the population attempts romance in some form or another at least once throughout their lifetime, therefore having a story that chronicles someone's life usually needs a reason why they would no longer be interested in that.

Unless you're just bitching about shipping for trivial reasons, in which case you're following a noble cause, but you're doomed to fail OP.

>>91707782
>nearly all the FEMALE population attempts romance in some form or another at least once throughout their lifetime
FTFY, remember the 17:1 historical rule, anon

Before this thread goes any further, I just want to remind everyone that Avatar Korra is my wife and I will tolerate no harsh words

>>91707778
You'll never get anyone to agree that something was GREAT

but Adventure Time and Korra come to mind as things that started out very promising then just spiraled into forced romance hell

>>91707640
Stop being bitter about Korrasami OP!

Korra was always SHIT

>>91707778
Korra, SVTFOE, Batman: The Killing Joke, Regular Show, Adventure Time

>>91707778
REGULAR SHOW

>>91707801

I did say attempt, I didn't say succeed.

>>91707816

Bugger off Asami.

>>91707640
I bet Genndy's wife forced him to include a romance plot in s5 to prove that he loves her and represent their irl relationship

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Friendly reminder that Steven Universe, for all its flaws, has the best, most realistic depictions of mature healthy romances

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHg50mdODFM

Yes the show about lesbian rock fusions. Every other cartoon should be ashamed of this.

>>91708019
Eh, might as well not bother to attempt if you pretty much know you'll fail miserably anyways, not to mention what you risk getting yourself into.
(This applies to many other things too, by the way.)

>>91707976
How was Star VS ruined? The romance got focus, but it's not like it's the main focus. And the push for Jackie and Marco's relationship gave Star a lot more to work with as a character, and was one of the best shows of her maturity.

>>91708145
Here Comes a Thought is more about stress and intrusive thoughts than it is about relationships

>>91708187
Not that anon, but IMO Star was much more interesting when she was boy-crazy. Now she just seems like a big blah.

>>91708212
She's still boy crazy, she's just found a boy to be crazy about

>>91707778
Every CW superhero show ever.

>>91708226
I meant when she actively chased boys, instead of becoming a passive wallflower over one "rejection".

>>91708148

Are... are you okay anon?

If it makes you feel any better, if you try and fail you've literally had a net loss of zero when it comes to romance, bar perhaps the expense of a dinner. And you always learn something, even if it was a lesson you'd rather not know.

Hang in there.

>>91708145

Sssssshhhh, you can't mention SU in a positive light here. They're watching, always watching. I agree, but it's more about dealing with feelings with romance as a sub plot

>>91708145
Connie and Steven are my single favorite fictional couple period. My only complaint is that they won't just say the word, leaving it in this sort of vague area of deniability. For all intents and purposes, they've been dating since alone together, but it's like the show doesn't want to say 100% for certain.

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>>91708145
while that song and message was great, don't forget that this show had a compulsory liar trick a friends trust into fucking multiple times just because it feels good and makes them feel less like shit for no reason.

>>91708145
There is no "romantic subplot" in SU, since Garnet is her own person and Steven and Connie are more just friends. There are just different kinds of relationships between multiple characters that get explored occasionally.

The only potential romantic sublot could come from Pearl x Mystery Girl, and if that becomes an actual thing that gets focus it's going to be shit, but it would fit with the rest of the shittiness of seasons 3 and 4 so it also wouldn't be surprising

>>91708271
>If it makes you feel any better, if you try and fail you've literally had a net loss of zero when it comes to romance, bar perhaps the expense of a dinner.
Where I live, things have got so bad that trying and failing at "romance" pretty much spells the end of your career (whatever it happens to be in) if not outright jail time. And my country doesn't have real welfare so you get to roam the streets.

>>91708471
What did you do, anon

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>>91708436
The show is full of romance and relationship stuff, it's just not as hamfisted or intrusive as other shows so you don't notice it as much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYtt-fY-Hvs

>>91708713
I did note that SU explores plenty of different kinds of relationships between many different characters and I think it does that well, I just said there was no big romantic subplot between any of the main characters (at least not yet) so you can't compare it to other shows that do have one.

Jasper and Lapis had a complex intimate relationship, but it was more of a metaphor for a toxic romantic relationship rather than an actual one, they are also not main characters so (I am guessing that's why) the relationship was not given very much focus .. even though that was a rare instance where I kinda wish it was given it's own sub-plot since it and Malachite were pretty interesting.

>>91708267
She never chased boys outside of Mewberty.

>>91707640
Sometimes the romance is the only redeemable thing about a series.

Shippers.

The most vocal part of any fandom.

>>91708636
Nothing, it's what I've seen and heard (sometimes personally) that I was referring to.

>>91709160
cornering a woman in a dark bar is not romance, anon

>>91709180
Haha, you're so naïve anon. In many places, literally anything can be sexual harassment now. (Even stuff that didn't happen often can be if the woman claims it did.)

>>91708960
That's the problem, isn't it?

Korra's masive breasts.

>>91707640
>Who even wants this shit?
Most people both IRL and online, especially online in fact.

>>91707640
From my experience people in high school and immature college students tend to make this a big issue. You're not in high school are you OP?

Personally I love it when a show does romance right, unfortunately very few shows justify that sub plot and even few succeed at it. Star vs the Forces of Evil is one of those shows where romance works.

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>>91707640

Bryant got us to still talk about korra all these years.

He didn't want to be progressive, he wanted to see us burn.

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>>91707778
Hamsteak

>>91707976
Star vs its about chipping you fucking weeewee

>>91708248
CW?

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>>91708145
Steven and Connie are so fucking cute.
Why can't more cartoons just have such cute friendships that are slowly progress into relationships like this one? No love triangle bullshit or anything like that.

>>91707778
The first half of Korra S1 were amazing before romantic bullshit kicked in and the shitty ending retroactively ruined everything

>>91711584
Gumball did it pretty well I think

>>91708386
Get over it, Ruby. You are melting the keyboard.

>>91707640
Because writers think appealing to shippers is what makes a series enduring.

>>91707640
>Korra x Mako plot was made to appease Zutara fans, and when they hated if they scrapped it.

>>91708248
He said great, not shit.
Even without romance CW shows are dogshit.

>>91707778
Adventure Time

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>>91707778
People in /co/ could name you countless.

I'd rather ask if anyone can give examples of cartoons where pairings and relationships actually WORKED.

>>91716065

Holy shit

That

God that makes SO MUCH SENSE.

Jesus.

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>super chill couple, relationship drama nonexistent
>two mature adults who just enjoy spending time with each other
>even had babies together

>But get next to no focus in the show because they aren't Finn spaghetti-ing or the boring lesbians
If AT is gonna spend so much time on romance it would be nice if there would be focus on the one actually sweet couple in the show

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I don't know, I feel if the character could use more expansion in the way of emotion a relationship could be interesting or if they require more humanization.

I don't think romance is a bad thing necessarily but it's totally overdone in entertainment these days. I wish characters would share more of a comradery than relationship half of the time, like with Regular Show. The female love interests besides Eileen were kinda ruined just by being with Mordecai. CJ and the one they just stopped showing (forgot her name, red bird) went from cool and interesting characters to just Mordecai's girlfriend. I stopped watching Regular Show for a while as a result because it stopped focusing on all of the characters for a bit and just Mordecai, felt like "Mordecai's dating simulator."

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>>91707640
>Korra was the romantic interest of all of her entire team

Let that sink in.

>>91716504
What the hell is on the table behind the mugs in that image.

>>91716514
A mask.