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>>91651727

Reposting in the new thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCLQlf_opvU [Embed]
>Warwick Davis’ Secret Han Solo Set Tour

They showed an alien from the Han Solo movie

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Daily reminder that TLJ is on /swco/'s blacklist so please refrain from talking about it

>Hamill hates it
>Hoth rehash
>Dagobah rehash
>Luke character bastardization
>Jedi hate

ST discussion will no longer be tolerated

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUvkxjVuT9g

Lucas is so fucking based

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I picked this up today

First time I've ever bought a comic(s)!

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>>91651708

>>91651754

>Cons
-another rehash of an OT alien

>Pros
-this one actually looks fucking rad as hell and I want to see more of him, unlike 99% of TFA's aliens

>>91651766
You cannot speak for more than 120+ anons, asshole

>>91651766
>Hamill hates it

Source?

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>>91651754
HOLD THE PHONE

>>91651774
Enjoy! It's a pretty solid comic.

And if you're looking forward to Star Wars Battlefront 2, that comic is going to crossover with it too.

>>91651766
The ST movies are alright, it's the new books and Marvel comics that are sadly straight up trash. Also all the cancerous mobile games.

>>91651806
He doesn't hate it, but he's made multiple comments about disliking choices made in TFA, and he doesn't like what happened to Luke in TLJ.

This is causing a lot of fans to lose hope in the ST altogether.

>>91651769
>I want somebody very young
my man

>>91651708
Based.

>>91651769
Yeah yeah, I am subbed too. You can stop posting now.

>>91651840
Are you for fucking real dude?

>all of these books and comics I likely haven't read are shit!
>The Force Awakens was fine though :3

>>91651844
>and he doesn't like what happened to Luke in TLJ

oh, he's one of THOSE

>>91651769
How can people hate this man?

>>91651864
I'm not the guy who was posting the anti-TFA videos.

I just love Lucas and wanted to share a video of him

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Snoke is described as being steeped in Dark Side knowledge. Plagueis was known for having "such a knowledge of the Dark Side".

Snoke is described by his apprentice, Kylo Ren, as “wise”. Which villain in the Star Wars saga was labelled ‘wise”?

Snoke's theme is nigh on identical to that of the Opera Scene in ROTS where we learn about Darth Plagueis.

Snoke literally looks like he has cheated death. His injuries are extensive. The only person we know who has actually cheated death (saved others) is Plagueis. Did he really teach his apprentice everything he knew? Have Sith Lords ever been known to bend the truth? Tell a little lie here and there? Masters of deception, anyone?!

Within the Darth Plagueis novel that was de-canonised, Plagueis talks about having Superweapons that can destroy entire star systems, he talks about ruling from the shadows whilst Sidious is the public face, of how immortality is more important than the power Sidious is after and on the cover appears as a large hologram overlooking Sidious. There are also many more verses in the novel that could fit very nicely with what we know about Snoke. It should also be noted that Plagueis had his apprentice Sidious murder his family as his final trial - something Snoke orders Kylo Ren to do.

Plagueis was originally a Muun. A tall (7ft), pale, skinny alien. That was de-canonised. Like the book that shares many ideas that resemble Snoke's story. And what does Snoke look like - Tall (7ft), pale, skinny and he's an alien.

Here's the weird bit: JJ even considered the possibility of Snoke being a woman. He didn’t want him to be an old and decrepit, like the Emperor. Um…but what did we end up with?

>>91651774
I hope you enjoy it, but there are so many much better comics out there. I hope you check out different stuff in the future, preferably the old Dark Horse Star Wars stuff since Marvel's pales in comparison pretty badly.

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>>91651879
Because they (wrongly) think he made bad movies.

>>91651910
Are you going to post this every single time someone mentions a comic?

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>>91651889
In the original script for ROTS, Lucas had it that Anakin WAS created by the Sith (Palpatine). He discarded it as it was unnecessary. However it shows what his final thoughts were on Anakin's origins. Then he decides to write the ST. He needs a villain. Would Lucas' villain not have been Plagueis? The perfect tie in with HIS beloved PT and a way of directly continuing the Darth Vader chosen one tale? Keep in mind Michael Arndt's recent comments that Lucas' treatments weren't in fact ditched but that much of it remains.

In the comic con conference, JJ tells us that LK was not being honest when he mishears Plagueis as Vegas as he says "LK is messing with you". This shows us that JJ passed the question over hoping LK would come up with a good cover story. But LK messed it up. Daisy Ridley is also shushed by Abrams as she begins to say "Is that S...". Whatever happened there, it got awkward and is a point for Plagueis IMO. The question from comic con was specifically about whether Plagueis would be mentioned in Episode VII and about the staff - NOT if Darth Plagueis will be in the ST, like many people have misinterpreted.

Kylo suggests to Hux that Snoke considered a clone army - something that once had direct implications with the Sith and their plan to take over. A nod to Plagueis' former role. He's minted and funded the clone army - more on this later.

Where did Snoke acquire his extensive Dark Side knowledge? If anyone can get this knowledge what is the point in the Jedi and Sith? Why did they have a monopoly on the Force? Why is so much made of knowledge being passed down within both orders if Snoke can just learn it himself? This means to me that Snoke was a Sith. But the only Sith who could've survived and reemerged is Plagueis.

>>91651769
>I wanted a woman who was a woman
>morally and emotionally strong

>nowadays we get women characters who are supposed to act like men for the muh strong womyn meme

>>91651918
Attack of the Clones must've been a fever dream then

>>91651910
Not interested in non-canon stuff

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>>91651889
STOP

NO

NO MORE PLAGUEIS

PABLO RELEASE US FROM THIS HELL

>>91651930
some one should. are you offended?

>>91651949
Attack of The Clones is great.
I'll never understand the memes.

>>91651889
>>91651934
Can you please stop posting this copypasta.
It's confirmed he's not and will never be Plagueis. This is becoming as bad as "what is she". Do we have autistic or bots? I cant tell anymore

>>91651953
I'm sorry for your loss.

>>91651935
gee maybe it's because being morally and emotionally strong doesn't get you anywhere in today's society

>>91651934
>>91651889
This is literally like how Flat Earth Meme is coming back.

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>>91651934
During Rey’s vision sequence in TFA, we can clearly hear the voice of Palpatine saying “any Jedi!” This carefully selected piece of audio was lifted from a scene form ROTS where Palpatine is talking to Anakin about saving Padme from death. Once again, this is a nod to Plagueis and the power he possessed to save people from dying. Why use this line? Why reference the PT when apparently “Disney are distancing themselves from the PT” as many deluded fans claim?

It was confirmed that there were NO Sith in TFA. Again, this resulted in fans claiming “Snoke can’t be Plagueis!” Nonsense. After cheating death, Plagueis would have abandoned the Sith order (Maul, Rebels anyone?!).

Sidious and Vader were the only two Sith remaining. Once Vader killed Sidious, the Sith were destroyed and balance was restored. Plagueis’ existence does not interfere in the prophecy.

So, Uncle George decides to bring back Darth Maul in TCW, after we watched him get sliced in half in TPM. George stated that he died in TPM at the hands of Obi-Wan Kenobi. He looked pretty dead to me too. Anyway, we now see Mr Maul pop up in ‘Rebels’ as ‘Old Master’. Mr Maul has made it clear that he despises the Sith and has nothing to do with the order any more. Hmmm, what’s this? A former Sith Lord, who has cheated death, abandoned the order, has been in the shadows for years, plotting his revenge on all of his enemies. What on earth could this be eluding to? Good work Mr Filoni, I see what you did there! Oh and one more thing...Why is Maul on the back cover of the Plagueis novel. Coincidental, isnt it…?

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>>91651984
Andy Serkis: “I have no idea who he is!”

Interesting comments Andrew. Isn’t Snoke just Snoke? If he was just an original character, why is there a mystery surrounding his identity? But “He’s a newly introduced character!” I hear you cry. Well Andrew, we’ve never actually been introduced to Darth Plagueis before. We’ve only ever heard of him. So, technically Snoke IS a new character. He just used to go by a different name when he was a Sith Lord.

The List/Evidence against Plagueis = Snoke.

Supreme Leader Snoke, despite being horrifically damaged, is cheating death and all the other similarities he shares with Plagueis, as stated above, might just be a random new bad guy they’ve decided to introduce. Disney and some of the best storytellers and producers on the planet decided that this would be the way to go.

We have now been told by MSW that Snoke is dressed in gold and is all about the money! He's got a "palace" on his ridiculously huge Star Destroyer. He's minted and he flaunts it. Sounds like they've been taken elements from the Plagueis novel...again!

I've always been a believer that the ST is about the rise of a new Jedi order, which will result in the demise of the Skywalker's. As was heavily implied in ROTS, and as Ian McDiarmid eluded to at SWCO, Anakin was created by Plagueis. The Skywalker's are tainted by the Dark Side and their very existence is due to the all powerful former Sith Lord, Darth Plagueis.

Even the description of 'Snoke's' new guards seem to be based on Plagueis' Sun Guards and Snoke seeing the rise and fall of the Empire.

>>91651935
Lucas knew what made a strong woman.

And look, Leia (and now Ahsoka) are beloved years later by men and women of all ages. Even Padmé has had a lasting appeal, although admittedly not as much as the former two, due to her being too much in Leia's shadow.

Meanwhile Rey is failing to appeal to anybody outside of little girls.

People need to realize that turning teenage girls into perfect unbreakable action heroes isn't going to make them accepted.

Strong women =/= "women who acts like a man"

>>91651973
gee maybe the problem is that nobody is morally strong anymore gee

>>91651844
Repeating myself from the last thread a bit, but I can't say I'm surprised. Mark did some interviews where he talked about how he thought he'd have a more directly heroic role alongside Carrie, that they'd be the ones to see Han die rather than Rey and Finn
I see where he's coming from a bit, but ultimately the ST is about new heroes rising, not the old ones coming back for one last hurrah

>>91651963
I like AotC.

But a good film it is not.

>>91651840
>ST movies are alright
>invalidates and shits on the OT
>alright

>>91652019
you wrote something even more fedora tipping than me congratulations

>>91652017
>Even Padmé has had a lasting appeal

no

Plagueis posting should be banned

>>91651961

Why should someone. Do you really need to spend your life making it your duty on /swco/ to bring up your hardon for Darkhorse whenever the word comic is brought up?

>>91651968
Can't miss something I've never had :^)

>>91651889
>>91651934
>>91651984
>>91652016
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/730511166691262465

>Snoke is not Plagueis. Dang. I lost the game.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/816436588854976512

>Plagueis is still the name of Sidious' deceased mentor. The one he killed.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/729446270868168704

>Sidious killed Plagueis. Ascending to master. As is the way of the Sith.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/729448383094489088

>I said Sidious killed Plagueis. He killed him. Killed. As in "to kill". Like, there was killing

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/729451617825607680

>he is dead. There you go. Three words.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/729453671436537856

>actually dead. Like totally dead. Dead.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/824504678046052352

>@pablohidalgo 1. When did Palpatine murder Darth Plagueis? Before or after TPM?

>@JasonCh20429560 1. I'd say long before TPM.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/734299892122681344

>Snoke isn't Plagueis because I thought was a bad idea. Snoke isn't Plagueis because that was never the story. That one wasn't up to me 1/2

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/734426406940114944

>@pablohidalgo why didn't you come out with this before? It's like smoke wasn't officially plagieus until recently and now you're tweeting it

>@bryanbleano I didn't think anyone was really that serious about this.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/672922118657544192

>I think Larry Kasdan not knowing who Plagueis was telling.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/720335482073133056
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/720334887316684801

>@pablohidalgo Isn't it your job to tell JJ Abrams and Kasdan who Darth Plagueis is?

>Had they asked, or if it was relevant to the story, I'd be happy to fill them in.

>It never came up.

>>91652042
>no
Yes, at least in the cosplay community.

Celebration was full of women dressed as Padmé.

Like I said, Padmé is in the shadow of her more popular and iconic daughter.

I still consider Padmé a stronger character who is more accepted than Rey by Star Wars fans.

>>91652051
>>91651953


holy fuck the shills are real...

>>91651968

The loss of what? Most of the older comics, like most of the old EU, was complete shit. People are seriously bringing up Legacy like it was something worth the paper it was printed on, it's sad.

>>91652078
Rey at least makes people angry, Padme is a non-character

>>91651885
>more than one poster has the right opinions
Well, that is neat.

>>91651961
Not offended, but shilling your opinons everywhere is just going to make people get sick of you.

People dont need to be told "y-yeah but you'll enjoy X more!" every time they praise a new comic.

Let people make up their own minds, and if they want to stick to newer stuff, thats fine too.

>>91652036
It is though.
You must unlearn what you have learned.

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>>91652080
How the fuck am I shilling? lol

>>91651889
>Snoke is described by his apprentice, Kylo Ren, as “wise”. Which villain in the Star Wars saga was labelled ‘wise”?

What if he's a fallen hero, not a villain?
>Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from me.

>Obi-Wan was wise

Obi-Wan is Snoke confirmed!!!

>>91652017
>Meanwhile Rey is failing to appeal to anybody outside of little girls.

Rey is likely the most popular ST character, man. The normies and casuals are all over her.

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Reposting from last thread

The new Force Arena Models have been ripped. No skeletons as usual

>Hera & Chopper
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ow7c3459oh9ngxr/hera%26chopper.rar

>Seventh Sister and Fifth Brother
http://www.mediafire.com/file/70tiylps27560k3/7th%265th.rar

>Eighth Brother
http://www.mediafire.com/file/hjd6602o3brai8y/8th.rar

>TX-Tank(model isn't very good though, pretty low poly)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/jdiw1gl1qh81d5x/TX-Tank.rar

>>91652104
>posts a picture that is from a ((((((canon)))))) comic.

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>>91652058
DELET THIS

>>91652093
>Padme is a non-character
untrue
You fell for the meme.

I bet you think Qui-Gon can't be described by the Plinkett character criteria.

>>91652104
Ignore him.

Apparently anybody not interested in reading 20-year-old comics is literally being paid by disney to promote the ST

>>91652124
Porn when

>>91652135

Why is it that defensive PT kiddies always bring up Plinkett?

>>91652124
But will these be made into porn animations, and how long do I have to wait

>>91652104
Enjoyment of the new canon is now seen as being paid by Disney to market their product by extremely butthurt tasteless EU mandowanking neckbeards.

>World War 3 going to start any day now and people are still THIS invested in Star Wars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It_olylT42I

"When I read 8, I told Rian 'I fundamentally disagree with virtually everything you've decided about my character.' But it might be a good sign, because I was really wrong about 7. I said 'when I turn around audiences are gonna hoot and holler because it's such an obvious cheat.' I didn't forsee John Williams incredible music and shots of Daisy and the build up to it all so I was never happier to be wrong." - Mark Hamill

>>91652149
Because your arguments always echo his inane garbage.

>>91652107
I got more!
> You are much wiser than I am, Obi-Wan.
Holy shit.

>>91651918
Nice meme you are starting there.

No, srsly, keep it going.

>>91652138
>20 year old comics

why is that phrased like reading old comics is a bad thing?

>>91652138
Fuck, I can get paid for telling people the EU was shit?

Where do I pick up my checks.

>>91652129
>wants to read content that is considered canon
>"y-you're a s-shill!"

>>91652174
Why would it be a meme.

>>91652176
you have to be 18 to post here.

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>>91652151
What even happened to this thread after the Celebration?

It's like a complete paradigm shift.

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>>91651960

>>91652171

Sounds like you're just hearing what you want to hear man. It's a little bit obsessive of you, nobody even brought it up but you feel the need to constantly talk about it.

>>91652175
I dont really know. I didn't mean it like that. My favorite comics are much older than 20 years in fact.

My main point is just that there is nothing wrong with wanting to read the relevant stuff instead, but one anon insists that this means we are disney shills

I wonder if its the same anon who used to call us "mice"

I have just one question for all you people that either love/hate the ST.

Do you think it could have worked with Mark as the lead, with Daisy, John, and Oscar as supporting roles?

>>91652213
Being on /swco/ post Rebels and during the lul period is like going into a warzone of autism.

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>>91652141
>>91652150
Hopefully eventually, we just need to wait for the right SFM people to nude-ify the models and get them ready for use and hope some SFM porn makers are star wars fans

>>91652232
it could've worked, but it would be less interesting and he would not have redeemed another death star

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>>91651963
I would say it was good+, if you re-insert the "Padme's Home" deleted scene. It is much-needed.

>>91652216
>Sounds like you're just hearing what you want to hear man.
I don't think so.
There is absolutely no justification for calling her a non character other than the bad arguments of the most famous guy who says things like that.

>>91652176
Unfortunately you can't. I really don't understand this anti-Disney paranoia, because they OWN the EU, they still reproduce the EU material for sale, and they make a hell of a lot of money off it. It's just that they aren't going to continue any of those stories, and no-lives can't handle it.

>>91652232
No. Luke already had his trilogy, this new one should be about the next generation of characters with the older characters playing the mentor role.

>>91652101
Its really not. A lot of the technical elements are present but they fail to bond and the whole thing comes apart. Its not unwatchable by any stretch (well, I mean, I always fast forward through the bits on Naboo) but its not good either. The acting is wooden and you can pretty see Hayden's eyes crying out for any kind of direction from Lucas which he simply didn't get, and Natalie tries her best but it just doesn't work. And, for people blessed with the power of vague future sight, literally none of the Jedi ever so much as raise an eyebrow when a well trained and well armed army literally lands in their lap mere days before the start of a major civil war. Hell Yoda does a 180 from the master who advised against getting involved to leading soldiers from the front lines, and this was before the Jedi were officially made generals of the Grand Army of the Republic.

>>91652216
To be fair, there was a poster a thread or so ago that was sounding like he literally just got done watching the RLM reviews.

So if anon is on edge because of that, I am not really surprised

>>91652232
I don't know. I am actually fine with the older characters taking a backseat to the newer ones, I just wish the newer characters were being executed better, and that the old ones weren't being butchered for the sake of the new movies.

>>91652213
A bunch of new people flooded in, and sadly with them came shitposters

>>91652173
And the final piece:
>Obi-Wan is a great mentor. As wise as Master Yoda

Obi-wan is called wise more times than any character in Star Wars. Mind blown.

>>91652257

Not really. People can form their own thoughts, believe it or not. Sometimes they disagree with you, but that doesn't mean they're secretly speaking the words of your creepy hatecrush.

>>91652200
Because George made a lot of mistakes while writing/managing SW, and only fixed some of them through improvising on the moment and later re-edits. George was never a perfect creator, and that MEM suggests that.

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/swco/, why do you like Star Wars?
What about it makes you happy?

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>>91652258
this

>>91652269
>(well, I mean, I always fast forward through the bits on Naboo)
Those are some of the best scenes though.

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>>91652250
>SFM porn with Ezra and SS
I can see it now. It will be glorious.

>>91652232
Maybe. Though I mostly wish there were better characters in the new movies (based on my metric), and the setting was developed much differently.

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>>91652298

Alien waifus

>>91652232
Nah. The ST with Luke as the main protagonist would have worked ten, fifteen years ago. That's when the time was for the story that most people seem to want with him - that of Luke laying foundation for the NJO.

Time forced LFL's hand and for better or for worse, focusing on new characters is the correct choice. And I actually quite like the direction they took Luke in. A broken man who got burned and is now looking for something completely different and unexpected is more interesting than perfect unfallible Jedi master.

>>91652298
Sense of adventure and autistic world building.

>>91652298
The music. The environments.

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>>91652298
The larger than life stories and characters that I can escape with.

Star Wars is one of the only things that I can enjoy and just for 20 minutes or so, be happy.

>>91652258
Maybe they feel threatened because that "legends" label is now a DO "NOT READ" label to most casuals and at least 90% of the regulars in this thread. I mean i don't lose sleep over it but its kind of depressing to see people in this thread shit on any and all EU while they have never even scratched the surface of it.

>>91652232
It would be better because that sounds like the makings of a movie about Luke's Jedi Order rather than what we got.

>>91652298
Deep lore. I love seeing every gun or location and knowing that it has a history. Makes it fun to ropeplay in.

>>91652232
Would it have worked? Probably, Mark has proven he can hold up a lead role before
Would it have been interesting? I'm not so sure, Luke had a trilogy where he got to be the hero, other characters deserve a chance at the helm. That and Luke completed the hero's journey in ROTJ, he's perfectly placed to be the mentor for the next generation, not using that would be sort of walking Luke back along the track for no good reason

Is there any official art of Eli Vanto yet?

>>91652371
You should try SWTOR

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>>91652387
>a movie about Luke's Jedi Order

>>91652232
Last thing I want Star Wars to do is turn into the Star Trek movies.

>>91652298
The music. Jedi and Sith stuff. Lightsabers. Space ships. The huge battles. The deeper mythological and spiritual aspects and the way it really plays on ancient epic storytelling. The EU and all the old video games.

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>>91652298
ships, especially technical specifications
ships, especially erotic aliens

>>91652422
thats filonis new show

>>91652413
I have a friend who keeps pressing me into doing just that. Even going as far as to mandate who I should play as.

>>91652379

The Legends label is not the reason, or at least it's nowhere near the primary reason. Like with anything else of it's kind, it's the sheer glut of material. Most people don't want to go through the skyscraper-sized pile of sheet full of stuff like Traviss in the hopes of maybe reading something good.

>>91652379
I think you'd be surprised at how many of us like the EU though.

Or liked it, or at the very least, enjoyed some of it while being cautious of the shit.

I still think there's nothing wrong with prioritizing canon stuff. I followed the EU for 10 years, and I am perfectly happy with reading canon stuff, or newcomers joining in to read the canon stuff. Of course people are going to be more excited to read Bloodline, or Shattered Empire, when those things are literally connected to things like new movies and games.

The EU has, and always will now, take a backseat to canon stuff, as optional adventures for fans to try if they're bored/caught up on all of the canon stuff.

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>>91652256
>Redo the awful Yoda puppet from TPM and replace it with the CGI Yoda.
>Redo the Clone Trooper dialogue in RotS to make them sound more like proper soldiers.
>Don't add this back into AotC.

>>91652379
people shitting on EUfags is reactionary to the bile they spew whenever their headcanons get contradicted by people trying to discuss the future of the franchise
it's perfectly fine to discuss the EU within the context of legends, but the diehard EU fans that hate everything else simply cannot accept anything less than groveling from others

>>91652449

Well golly gee willickers, if only there wasn't a recommended reading list somewhere out there.

>>91652454
Except thats wrong, everyone knows Snoke is Mace Windu

>>91652448
the gameplay is lacking the story is solid especially if you want a huge sprawling story with many characters. But for me the Sound design is the best.

>>91652476

I said most people, which means the vast majority of people in the world not autistic enough to visit a Star Wars general on 4chan.

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>people think Jedi will ever, EVER be a major focus again after Lucas successfully made 99% of people who watch Star Wars wary of the concept ever again

>>91652401
No, but I picture him looking and sounding like Van Johnson

>>91652298
A rich, detailed setting which can be a canvas for multitude of diverse stories. The history, the politics. The spiritual and mystical side. The technology and war games.

It's just a colorful playground you can go wild in. Most other settings tend to swing in certain direction or two, but SW has a taste of everything and in spades.

>>91652379
It's really pathetic and sad watching all these underage shiteaters insult and dismiss the EU as bad when they've never even touched it and don't know what they're even talking about. I guarantee if any of these new fans had read any if it, they would agree that most of it was great and most of the new stuff is a distinct step down in quality or just less intricately laid out retreads of it. The difference is night and day, like the difference between a labor of love and the work someone does just for a paycheck.

>>91652475
feels like a pissing match DESU I've been here since TCW and when the wipe was announced there where enough "good riddance to bad rubbish" people to keep me away for a year.

Considering the Jedi/Sith are one of the main draws of the starwars settings... this trilogy seems to be setting up the end of both the Sith and the Jedi, what do you think will happen? Something new?

>>91652525

Or they've read EU stuff and found that a good amount of it is bad or mediocre.

Nah, that's impossible, clearly they must have never read anything. Whatever makes you feel better, Dark Horse anon.

>>91652454
Snoke is Ezra anon

>>91652530
Jedi protecting the galaxy from whatever Snoke is

so SW Galaxy vs another one

>>91652525
I haven't noticed a drop in Novels but i have to say other then a few bright spots marvel is really dropping the ball.

>>91652166
Can we make reaction videos off of WW3?

>>91652503
>Episode 8 literally has Jedi in the title, and has lots of Jedi lore
'no'

Don't be silly anon

>>91652393
>Luke completed the hero's journey
Then why invalidate it in the next movie? The Vong would be preferable to this.

>>91652530

X-Wings and TIE fighters.

>Copy, (color) Leader. I'm going in!

>>91652565
>there's two(?) of them and it's about them going away, and it's one of three plots (Finn mission/Poe squadron/Rey training)

that's what I meant by not much focus

>>91652543
there is so much that you would be busy for years. Which you would have to do to pass judgment on all that lore. However your opinion on what you did read is absolutely valid and i would love to hear it.

>>91652577

The Vong really would at this point. At least then you had jedi knights actually doing things instead of them all dying offscreen in a hard reset.

>>91652528
>good riddance to bad rubbish
I'm literally the guy who posts that and it's always in response to eufags who complain about MUH MANDO'ADE
fuck I love parts of the EU but it just isn't worth keeping between all the crappy stories and crappier Lucas-hating fanatics

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>>91652525

>>91652525
I've literally made multiple posts about how I read plenty of the EU and am still happily enjoying canon.

But you'll either ignore me, or call me a liar, because it doesn't fit your view on "EU is objectively superior and any REAL fan would agree!"

>>91652577
How is what happened with the academy his fault? He's still a hero, just in grief

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>>91652332
>SFM porn with Ezra and SS
And Luke too

>>91652599
Jedi knights besides the protagonists doing stuff has never been a big thing in the movies though, not even in the Prequels

>Geonosis
>that's kind of it

>>91652610
I don't think it being his fault or not is the point. The point is it happened.

>>91652600
>i hate Lucas-hating fanatics

so i became an eu hating fanatic.

>>91652561
Yeah, the Marvel comics suck. Vader could have been fantastic but it's just so shit. Aphra and her obnoxious edgelord Artoo and Threepio stand-ins are terrible and none of Vader's dialogue sounds like Vader. The story was such a stupid let down, it really did not feel like it fits anywhere with the movies.

>>91652594

I would, but then you would probably go on a rant about how these cash-in products had real soul and heart, unlike these modern day cash-in products. Those authors writing 5 books a year really cared about each and every one of them in that 19 book series that definitely wasn't made to make a buck off a franchise name.

>>91652530
Hopefully, the Knights of Ren are promising as a new Dark side group, and I think Rey and possibly Finn or Poe? have what it takes to create a new Light side faction to help train people
As much as I liked the Jedi and the Sith their conflict is over, Palpatine achieved literally everything the Sith ever set out to do then Luke killed him. If they bring the Sith back they will always pale in comparison to Palpatine, so why even try?

>>91652554
>SW Galaxy vs another one
VONG?

>>91652629

Yeah, but that's just another reason the ST is a shitty rehash.

>>91652635
I don't hate the EU though, I hate the screeching EUtists and I will roast even the parts of the EU I like to harvest their salt.

Except for Star Wars Bounty Hunter. There's nothing wrong with that game, except for being too hard.

>>91652657
except none of the protagonists being jedi or jedi in training in the first movie makes it ORIGINAL compared to ANH and TPM

>>91652644
Nice projection. Can we talk about star wars now?

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>>91652618
I can't wait

>>91652577
How are the Vong showing up and shitting over everyone better than the FO showing up and shitting over everyone?

The canon OT3 got thirty years of peace. The EU OT3 got stuck in a maraise with the fledging Imperials for two decades and then the Vong moved in and blitzed half the galaxy. All the FO did was blow up the capital.

And canon Luke seems to be moving towards building something better after the new Jedi blew up in his face. EU NJO was just the shitty old Jedi Order 2.0.

>>91652638
Vader was great in his comic, but the art was shit and the sidekicks were definitely grating as you said. I'd say they were worth it, but only barely. I like most of the rest of the comics though.

>>91652707
it's not projection, it's an observation

>>91652638
Vader was one of the best comics though

I disagree with every single word in your post

>>91652703

Not if they have literally all the same abilities and gain them with no reasoning in the plot ever given.

>>91652656
They basically are replacing the Vong with Snoke in that there is now an implication in the books that Palpatine and Thrawn were trying to prepare the Empire to face him.

>>91652721
Because Luke wasn't the last one standing

It's a pity Fioni can't be in charge of the SW franchise, he's probably one of the few people who know what to do with it.

Right now its probably going to suffer from being under the influence of several directors and lose a lot of constancy

>>91652739
But he is right about aphra and the edgy knockoffs

>>91652707

It's kinda tough to talk about it when you have an anon constantly pops up to complain about how the EU is so much better and how you need to spend some half a decade reading everything before you can say any part of it is bad. That level of dedicated autism kinda puts a damper on conversation (see: this thread since the autist showed up once he caught sight of the word "comic").

>>91652724
>it's not projection, it's an observation

You don't know me and you did not observe our discussion on all theses EU stories you are too afraid to bring up because of all the EU bullies.

>>91652739
It's a bad comic and yet still the only good one of the Marvel stuff. Really says a lot.

>>91652721
>The canon OT3 got thirty years of peace.

No they didn't. The New Republic was corrupt and ineffective from the very beginning. The New Jedi did nothing before dying offscreen within that timeframe. Han lost the falcon and slid back into debt.

That's not peace.

>>91652721
>And canon Luke seems to be moving towards building something better after the new Jedi blew up in his face
Thats a big assumption over little info we have

>>91652744
only one does, and it's left as a mystery

it's not like Rey having a completely coherent reason for her abilities is going to be shitty STILL because it was disappointing in TFA actually yeah it will be who am I kidding people will still bitch even if it's the most clever reveal in history

>>91652764
>>91652644
so you guys really never read any of it then? What a surprise.

>>91652042
More than your space antelope

>>91652721
In the old eu they had bad tines but things didnt go to complete and total shit for about 100 years

>>91652799

Nice projection.

>>91652763
I don't think anything is wrong with Aphra.

I will concede an acknowledge that the droids aren't for everybody, but they're also barely around anymore so there isn't much to complain about.

>>91652774
It's a good comic, and so is;

>Kanan
>Lando
>Shattered Empire
>The main Star Wars comic (usually)

Plenty of the other comics are decent too.

>>91652764
its very simple if you read it then review it, if you haven't then don't bother speaking about it. I am sure you would love for all the disney haters to do the same.

>>91652298
The expanse. The fact that it's such a behemoth of a franchise that even bizarre, niche storylines have the chance to find a fanbase and flourish into something great. So many good franchises die out before they even get to tell their main story, even when they're playing it safe, never mind being able to explore the more interesting aspect of their lore.
Star Wars is the ultimate collaborative effort at attempting to built a (mostly) coherent fictional universe, and it's a credit to the fans for giving the support each storyline needs, no matter how seemingly dumb.
There's downsides to being such a huge mass-appeal franchise as well, but I guess we've just got to take it

>>91652819

Be careful about bringing up specific comics, he might reveal how he's ironically not read any of them and is just basing it off a generalization because "everything the mouse produces is bad, it has no soul unlike my EU".

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Why can't people honestly admit that Star Wars side material is almost always better than the main stuff?

I'm including Rogue One as side material

>>91652298
I actually don't really know. All I do know is that I like aliens and want there to be more of them in the limelight.

>>91652804
in the EU they were total shit for 137 years starting directly after ROTJ

in the nu-EU they're sort of realistically ok for about 29 years after Jakku until First Order goes 9/11 on literally-whosnian prime

>>91652585
>pilots of color in my star wars

>>91652298
CANON and only CANON makes me happy

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>>91652764
All you had to say is that you're just baiting. Would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. Go hate the EU somewhere else if all you want to do is pick fights with people who like it and actually read it.

>>91652846
Yeah I am well aware most people complaining about canon have barely seen any of it.

I've seen tons of people screwing up in the past and outing themselves as having not read any of it.

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>>91652298

The fact that love of a son redeemed a father.

>>91652780
Every state in Star Wars is corrupt and ineffective when you get right down to it, its part of the make up of the franchise. And the New Republic might have had its issues but it was still around and still leading the majority of the galaxy towards peace and prosperity before things went to shit due to the First Order. Frankly the NR did a better job than any of the post Imperial governments in the same time frame of the old EU
And the New Jedi were barely getting off the ground before Ben turned on Luke. They were still hopping about the Outer Rim, we don't even know if Luke had a proper temple or if the Temple Massacre is just referring to one of the old Jedi Temple sites that Luke was investigating with his students when Ben finally fell
Han always had problems sticking around, even for Leia. With her wrapped up in politics, his son off in the outer rim with his uncle Han was left with nothing to do. And as we saw in Aftermath, a Han left with nothing to do is a Han that will do stupid things

>>91652898
rough feel isnt it?

>Thought TFA was total garbage
>Rebels is good
>Comics and novels are average and forgettable as fuck

When will nu-canon have it's Heir to the Empire break out and Dark Horse level comics?

>>91652470
Well, thankfully everyone can just re-edits the scenes back in.

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>>91652503
>99% of people

>>91652261
Sure I'm looking forward to have Rey be the founder of the new Not!Jedi that are totally better than Jedi could ever be.

>>91652947
She will found the grey jedi

>>91652929
Maybe after the sequel trilogy.

>>91652929
Follow the example of THIS anon (me).

Only accept:
>the 6 movies
>TCW
>unmade TCW episode
>Rebels
>Obi-Wan & Anakin
>Son of Dathomir
>Rogue One
>Bounty Hunter game
>KOTOR & KOTOR 2
>Darth Plagues book
as canon, and it will all smiles.

>>91652929
Never. The story group's corporate leash holds it back and always will. Nothing major, interesting, fresh, or particularly cool can happen in the books, games, and comics because the movies get first dibs. Not to mention a lot of the great old writers are gone, either dead like Aaron Allston or retired like Troy Denning and Michael Stackpole.

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>>91652988

So I'm not the only one whose extremely annoyed by this whole gray jedi theory garbage that the casuals are now spouting because they never bothered to pick up a single thing of EU and are being blown away that this ideal exists.

Right?

i really doubt luke will die

>>91652983
Add the Rogue Squadron games, and all the post RotJ EU books and I agree. The ST are an Infinities story as far as I'm concerned.

>>91652929
>Comics and novels are average and forgettable as fuck
Most of them aren't though

>>91653017
I'm annoyed when I see retarded youtubers pushing it

What are the chances of Snoke and Ezra being the same person?

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>>91653017
you're not, the only people who unironically like grey jedi are normies who know nothing or edgelords who know even less

>>91653013
>filename
gets me every time

>>91652983
Plagueis book and TCW directly contradict each other. They're entirely incompatible.

>>91653045
No. He's right. They are forgettable and innocuous at best. Totally sterile and frivolous material of no consequence.

>>91652964
Those won't have Jedi in their name though. JJ and co. want to leave their own permanent stamp on the franchise and make the original obsolete.
Nevermind that the fans will most likely still just play Jedi and Sith on conventions.

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>implying the ST won't end with Kylo killing Snoke and himself together and leaving Luke and his student Rey to prepare the galaxy for oncoming war

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>>91652988

>>91653082
How

>>91653083
>Totally sterile and frivolous material of no consequence.

no

>>91653083
Whatever keeps you happy anon.

Most of them aren't forgettable, sterile, or whatever other buzzwords you want to use.

>>91653017
It's a reasonable train of thought to get behind, there's nothing wrong with the concept of Grey Jedi. The only thing wrong with it is the extremely cringeworthy "Grey Jedi code". Don't know where the fuck that shit came from, but it certainly wasn't from anything in the EU or otherwise.

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>>91653017
Find solace in that they'll have to face the reality that the canon "gray Jedi" will be more like Qui-Gon than edgy Geralts of Rivia.

>>91653134

Maybe we can get edgy Qui-Gon

>>91653134
the witcher isn't half as edgy as grey jedi

>>91652983
You forgot Republic Commando

>>91653082
Fuck me, that is the book that I haven't read yet. Guess you can scratch that one out.

>>91653017
I'm annoyed by it on multiple levels
Firstly, pretending that its new really ticks me off. I have a lot more respect for people who at least have the decency to acknowledge and point to examples of Grey Jedi in the old canon
Secondly, and a more personal thing, I find the whole idea of 'Grey Jedi' to be contradictory. You can't have a Grey Jedi anymore than you can have a lapsed Catholic who still attends Mass. Jedi isn't just a blanket term for "Light aligned Force user" (in fact I'd argue one of Star Wars biggest problems across the nu-canon AND the old EU is the fundamental assumption that if you're a Force user fighting for good you're automatically Jedi) its a specific code of how to live, how to use the Force and how to train others in the mysteries of the Force. Having someone try and ignore that, or cannibalize it and interject parts about tapping the Dark Side or seeking a balance fundamentally changes the message of the Jedi way. And that's fine, just have the fucking balls to admit you're trying something new, inspired by the Jedi but distinct in its own way
That's what I'm desperately hoping will happen in The Last Jedi, that Luke will admit that the Jedi collapsed for reasons connected more to their codes and practices than anything to do with Vader, and that it's long past time the galaxy got new Force using protectors following a new philosophy of the Force

>>91653105
>Plagueis novel
>Darth Maul is a direct violation of the rule of two. Plagueis knows this and Sidious knows this, and they're fine with that
>Maul wasn't even a real Sith anyways

>TCW
>"There can only be two Sith. And you are no longer my apprentice."
>Maul was a genuine Sith Lord

>>91653166
The Republic Commandos were in TCW, that's a given.

>>91653134
>edgy Geralts of Rivia.
He's edgy?

>Luke is telling Rey inside the tree that it's time for the Jedi to end
>there are books in the tree

What is inside the old tomes that caused Luke to despair?

>>91653166
My recommendation is a "core" one. Start with that, expand until you encounter contradictions and horrible writing.

>>91653130
>there's nothing wrong with the concept of Grey Jedi.
Yes there is

The whole idea of them:

>The term Gray Jedi, or Gray, had two meanings. First, it was used by Jedi and Sith to describe Force-users who walked the line between the light and dark sides of the Force without surrendering to the dark side, and second, it described Jedi who distanced themselves from the Jedi High Council and operated outside the strictures of the Jedi Code. However, those who were considered to be true Gray Jedi met both qualifications and did not belong to any particular Force tradition.

is retarded.

>>91653073
With what we know from canon about the Force now should actually make it impossible to be a 'grey' Jedi since you can't use Dark Side stuff without being corrupted. Even the so called Chosen One wasn't immune.

>>91653210
Ahsoka is a Grey Jedi. Filoni has more or less specifically stated this. Next.

>>91653187
No Talzin and Dathomir are in the book.

>>91653230
>"I'm no Jedi."

How fucking retarded do you have to be? Filoni has said nothing like that either.

To be "in the middle" is to contradict what it even means to be a Jedi.

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>Luke telling Rey that the Jedi should end after having the son of his best friend and one of his best pupils murder his surrogate family behind his back while he wasn't there to protect them, coupled with the possible discovery of something horrible about the earliest Jedi, wrought with sadness and despair, is character assassination

>>91653166
Republic Commando wasn't even canon before the wipe

>Geonosians are completely different
>Trandoshans are completely different
>Super Battle Droids are completely different
>Dwarf Spider Droids aren't even fucking close to what they resembled in the movie
>CIS Droids still needing a Droid Control Ship to operate
>Phase 1 Clone Troopers on Kashyyyk

>>91653230
>I am no Jedi
>this means I am a Jedi
do you think before you post or do you just pull random shit from your ass and fling it at the keyboard

>>91653200
The true history of the foundation of the Jedi Order would be my guess
As to what caused him to despair, maybe it was the realization he'd actually blown his chance to recreate the Order and the books can't help him try again

>>91653228
Because he was chosen to bring balance to the force by eiping out the jedi but 2. 2 jedi. 2 sith balanced and equal

What could happen in TLJ that would make Rey a better character?

Aside from death

>>91653230
>Ahsoka is a Grey Jedi.
She's not. She's a force user who isn't part of any specific religion or faction of force users.

>Filoni has more or less specifically stated this.
He hasn't.

>>91653200
Gunray's smut Dooku/Yoda fanfics.

>>91653267

But bad things are happening to him, clearly that means it's bad.

>>91653283
Dark side to mirror Ben returning to the light.

>>91653269
I think he believed that putting the word "Filoni" in his post would make us believe him

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I am going to ONLY pirate the next movie.

>>91653285
>She's a force user who isn't part of any specific religion or faction of force users.
Thats a grey jedi

>>91653283
If she fucks up a ton and is humbled by her experiences. Or goes darkside.

>>91653017
I wouldn't worry. Lucasfilm won't use the term "Grey Jedi", and will instead stick to "The one in the middle, the Bendu."

>>91653283
Something 4th wall breaking and galaxy destroying.

>>91653325

I think his contention is that Grey Jedi is a terrible title for that, because "Jedi" denotes a very specific thing.

>>91653347
Do you think the Bendu has a huge lightsaber

>>91653325
does that mean jews are also catholics because they both believe in yahweh

>>91653184
Hell Ahsoka was a force user that used it for good and she explicitely said she was no Jedi. She left that path a long time ago.
And you don't stop being force sensitive just from leaving the Order. I mean it didn't stop Dooku either.

>>91653325
A Satanist is not a dark-Catholic, so why would somebody not in some religion be called a member of that religion?

>>91653325
"Grey Jedi" is a contradiction. If you're Grey, you're by definition not a Jedi.

"I'm a Christian, but I don't buy that whole Jesus thing."

That's what you're saying.

>>91653285
>"She's not a Grey Jedi"
>Proceeds to describe the Grey Jedi exactly in reference to her
She is. Thanks for proving it for me though!

>>91653283
Her struggling with anything Force related outside of swinging a Lightsaber
Like, that shot of her lifting pebbles? That's after literal months of effort and training, because she struggles with connecting with the wider Force. Humble her a little so we get to see her grow into a skillset instead of just being assumed to have it

>>91653130
>there's nothing wrong with the concept of Grey Jedi
There are two concepts - "a lightsider who doesn't follow the code and the dogma of the Jedi Order", and " a donut steel that is so much better than those shitty Jedi and Sith because he can use BOTH sides of the force!!! And he is not good or evil because he donates money for an orphanage and also robs banks so the morality bar is in balance!".

One of those concepts IS wrong. Incidentally, this is also the one normies associate with the term "Gray Jedi".

>>91653200
The history of the Old Ones.

>>91653370
>I'm a Christian, but I don't buy that whole Jesus thing."
You mean most christians?

>>91653397
*tips fedora*
*clinks glass of blue milk against yours*
*blocks your path*
pssh...nothin personnel, kid

>>91653382
"I'm a grey cop. I don't work for any police force, though. I just have a gun and shoot people who go over the speed limit."

>>91653347
I don't like the ideal at all of "being in the middle" It just feels like another over-used trope that has been existent for hundreds of years. In a world of radicals that are the main focus of conflict and you can see there is clearly errors existing from those radicals , the easiest plot progression is saying "What if we made a faction that sees the error in these radicals and then becomes neutral to both sides?!"

It just feels lazy.

>>91653397

I don't think so. $60 million worth of people watched a movie to let them know that God's not dead and Jesus was real.

>>91653279
Well apparently the Force is still out of balance in the ST

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jiminy jillickers

>>91653426
Thats less than a million

>we're arguing semantics now

Should we coin a new umbrella term for Force users not affiliated with the Jedi Order, while not skewing towards the dark side?

Or shall we just tone down the autism and accept the term grey Jedi in its figurative sense?

>>91653382
Jedi, by definition, connects her to a faction of Force users
Shit, it connects her to a faction of Force users we SAW her leave in TCW. She walked away from the Jedi and the Temple, and became something else. Not a Jedi, not Grey, just Ashoka Tano, Force user

>>91651844
>he doesn't like what happened to Luke in TLJ
FFS watch the whole interview
he also said that he meant that as a good thing
I'm no fan of the ST, but I'm not gonna call a film shit before I see it

>>91653450

Yes, why not? The whole franchise is built around autistic categorization, why shouldn't this specific group of force users not have a proper categorization? It seems weird to cop out with this one thing and just go with a title that doesn't really fit.

>>91653422
Yeah, I have to agree. And it seems kinda weird considering the Darkside is on the end they're trying to go closer to.

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>>91653388
You got me there. I always took it to mean the former and was perfectly content with the title as being accurate, just as Dark Jedi means ex-Jedi turned evil that isn't a Sith Lord. Most people seem to think it means Assassin's Creed: Star Wars edition though.

>>91653436
It amazes me people can't grasp such a simple concept
We saw Ashoka quit, why do people feel the need to ask Pablo about shite like this when its clearly obvious what happened?
Why is this fandom so obsessively attached to the concepts that have gone before? Why does everyone have to be related to everyone else? Why does every character need to become a Wook article crumbling under a veritable forest of linked text connecting that character to twenty other completely random people who don't fucking matter
Just, fucking why Star Wars>?

>>91653450
We have a term for that
Its "Force User"
Unless you think just saying "I use the Force" while not being a Jedi automatically makes someone a Dark Sider or something

>>91653513
it's autism

when reading the words I am typing now "Snoke is a new character" somebody actually is getting mad

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Hey, let's ask our resident Gray Stormtrooper on the matter.

>>91653556
he is clearly black

>>91653422
What's the alternative? Continuing the radicals' folly?

And who says that whatever group comes out of ST will truly be "neutral" between the both sides? It'll likely just be more relaxed and encouraging individualism, but still firmly on the light side. It will be just reformed Jedi with a different name.

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>>91653556
fucking hell I lost it, that's top tier banter

>>91653556

Darth Maul wasn't a part of the Rule of Two, so I guess that makes him a Grey Sith.

>>91653513
An underage who didn't spend the last 20+ years engaged and immersed with the EU material wouldn't understand why it matters to people that they keep altering, erasing, and changing shit. Nobody who liked things the way they were wants to relearn inane lore dumps with new definitions. Fuck off with that.

>>91653542
I thought snoke was plagius

>>91653574
So kinda similar to what Luke's NJO was in the EU?

>>91653556
How is he a Stormtrooper when he left their organization? You can't run back to your elementary school and claim you're still a student.

>>91653585
Ventress and Savage too, if we're going that route.

>>91653598
This. It's like the literary equivalent of painting C-3PO's arm red to sell you another version of the same figure you already own.

>>91653600

How can Snoke be a character that's confirmed to be long dead?

>>91653542
You know, I'm not even mad over that. It's just, it takes all threat off the board in what snoke is in my eyes.

Kylo is an edgy 14 year old evil wanabe who has no serious antagonist presence outside of having sperging REEEEE sprees.

And then we have this asshole snoke who has no antagonist presence outside of being palpatine 2.0 with literally the same scheme as palpatine so it's hard to even take that seriously. It feels like there is no antagonist force to take seriously, even if snoke is OC, the OC literally copied palaptine's plans word for word on a semi-larger scale and it already failed once.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/822122445490429952

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/822122599303892993

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/822196938099429377

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/821480675463151617

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/821480388396601344

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/821506456449007617

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/821491758605340673

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/821466998336950272

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/828324167053242368

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>>91653585
>>91653627
>JJ said Kyle Renny isn't a Sith
Grey it is

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>>91653659
>snoke gets in your eyes

>>91653610
The EU Jedi eventually devolved back into the PT Order. The Canon Luke is likely searching for a way to avoid that.

So, in spirit, yes, but it'll probably be more impartial politically and more decentralized. And again, those two things don't necessarily mean that the new Jedi will turn into triggerhappy vigilantes.

>>91653536
>Force User

>umbrella term for Force users not affiliated with the Jedi Order

...

We could say non-Jedi Force User but that's way too many words. Grey Jedi might not be technically correct but everyone knows what we mean by that, there is no reason to be butthurt about semantics.

>>91653649
Shitty writing that you see in anime's all the time. Literally look at jojo's part 3 with avdol. You literally can't trust a story to say someone is "dead" when the characters keep saying they are indeed dead, but you can just write bullshit later to explain that they were never dead and it was a ruse.

>>91653712
>Grey Jedi might not be technically correct but everyone knows what we mean by that

Not really.

>>91653659
>And then we have this asshole snoke who has no antagonist presence outside of being palpatine 2.0 with literally the same scheme as palpatine so it's hard to even take that seriously

>he got all this from the first movie in a trilogy where snoke has five? lines and doesn't talk about his plan

Someone told me santa commando in RotJ was confirmed to be Rex. This true/opinions?

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>>91653753
not explicitly, but they've bandied the idea about and they seem very interested in going that route

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If a Kaminoan became part of the Jedi Order, would they then be a Grey Jedi?

>>91653574
It doesn't work in SW because it's about good vs evil, selfless vs selfish.

You can't be wrong by being "radically" good or "radically" selfless.

>>91653779
ayy lmao
no, they'd be a semen demon

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>>91653659
>blowing up the government and destroying its poice force = emperor

wow i didnt know so many villains in fiction were palpatine ripoffs

hes a fucking conqueror war king not le tricky government plot man like sheev

>>91653802
STICCs and flats can never be semen demons

>>91653598
No one is changing shit about the old EU, its completely finished and never being expanded on again. If anything you should be happy, the entire EU is now perfectly preserved in amber, none of it will change in accordance to George's latest addition to the story, or some new author dredging up an old idea for his new book
Just everything you spent the last twenty years immersed in, never changing ever again.

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>>91653833
you're right, fortunately kaminoans are thicc sticcs

>>91653748
I mean it isn't that hard. He's leading the antagonist force, it's pretty easy to claim that everything that antagonist force has done has been done under snoke's direction.

So you know a death star 2.0, and rebirthing an army to take control of the galactic government through threats of planet anhiliation to get people to behave and let him do what he wants. It's even explained that the first order is comprised of the losing empire forces that wish to return to power. It's literally the same team, regrouped, with a stronger death star, and trying the same plot AGAIN.

So yeah, I can confidently compare snoke to palatine. Even if he didn't say much, his actions exist.

>>91653618
THAT'S THE JOKE

Hey swco, still decompressing from celebration and wanted to come and share this overjoys feeling with you guys. so while im here, at the office, chilling out as the day winds down, ive been thinking to myself, what got us here? What was the singular event that got you into star wars? Whats YOUR star wars story?

Mine is pretty simple I think. the first time I saw anything star wars was when I was 4 years old, and it was the ending to return of the Jedi .My mother was dating someone and we were at his apartment. I was fussy and upset, until I sat down and on the TV was RotJ. I watched like the last 30 mins of it, and was hooked. My little brain couldnt handle what it was, and all I could talk about on the whole ride home was how amazed I was by it. When I got home to my grandparents house, my grandmother told me she had all three of them on VHS and I watched them into oblivion. We even had to buy another box set because ESB and RotJ were literally unwatchable at certain points. I saw TPM only a few months later when it came out on VHS, and have since seen every movie opening night. The toys, the books, and especially the video games had me hooked. I lived in that world for years, and still go back and visit from time to time now.

I have so many memories growing up around star wars. Me and my best friend playing battlefront on his PS2, making up stories of our soldiers and why they were in the war. We would even alter how we played to RP as our characters better. Years later sitting down with the official pen and paper RPG with a circle of friends to play edgy denizens of the empire. Even recently, staying up till midnight for the release of the EABF with a good friend and getting fucked all night by the stupid DL-44.

I just wanna write here thanks to star wars, and to hear your stories. Where has star wars altered your life?

>>91653868
m-mommy

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On a scale of 1-10, how confident are you that The Last Jedi will be good?

I'm honestly at about 5.

>>91653875
being introduced to the OT on vhs when I was a tot, at least 3 years old but less than 7, back in the mid 90s somewhere I don't remember exactly when I saw them all, but it was the greatest thing I'd ever seen and the toys were great

>>91653903
7 considering they are pretty adamant about what went wrong in TFA

only thing bad so far is crait looks a little too fanservicey

>>91653903

Why would you ask now, when we barely know anything about it?

>>91653903
Good? 8, maybe 9.

Great? 5.

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when will you mouse shills realize that your lazy mass produced novels will never compare to this masterpiece

>>91653875
My older brother and sister were really into star wars so they passed it down to me. Brother got me to play a lot of rogue squadron on gc and battlefront which both solidified my love for star wars

Even before that as a toddler I think I was always really into R2 since his color scheme connected with my developing brain or some shit

>>91653903
TFA was about a 7 for me in terms of hype but I was disappointed
TLJ makes me more hopeful, I'm at least a 7 right now for hype, probably 8 or 9, but honestly I'm more interested in rebels, the comics, and battlefront 2

Anyone who likes rogue one or tfa or is looking forward to a han solo movie is mentally ill

kathleen kennedy = satan bimbo

>>91653779
kina ha

>>91653903
Before the trailer and having seen Rian Johnson's other films, I was at a 9 or 10. After the trailer and Mark Hamill's multiple off script outbursts about his complaints, criticisms, and dislikes about it I'm down to a 4 or 5. Seriously starting to worry that they really have ruined Luke and made a shot for shot remake of ESB.

>>91653903
4. I'm not putting any hope into it. It will be nice if I'm proven wrong, but honestly at this point I've checked out all interest in this trilogy and just wish I could experience TOR shenanigans but I feel like they will rape that too.

>>91653903
Based purely off the teaser? Solid 8, they've openly admitted where they fucked up on TFA and TLJ looks to be correcting that

>>91653960
Rogue One is great, TFA was ok. But otherwise I agree. The Han Solo movie is a horrible idea and Kathleen Kennedy is the cancer.

>>91653962
Has Mark said anything about TLJ besides "I didn't like the portrayal of Luke initially"? Most of his negative comments have been about TFA

>>91653962
>Mark Hamill's multiple off script outbursts about his complaints, criticisms, and dislikes about it

We've already talked about how that's bullshit.

>>91653556
I hate that gun, it's so ugly

>>91654016
welcome to Heckler & Koch

>>91653962
>After the trailer and Mark Hamill's multiple off script outbursts about his complaints, criticisms, and dislikes about it

This is what worries me the most. Mark Hamill seems extremely disappointed in how it turned out.

>>91654058
>Mark Hamill seems extremely disappointed in how it turned out.

Please, PLEASE source me on that. All he's said so far is that he was disappointed that Luke started off "wrong" in TLJ but came to agree with it

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>>91653875
>every day after school watch the movies on Spike (this was after RotS came out so I watched the OT and PT equally)
>watched Clone Wars
>played Shadows of the Empire on N64 and watched my big brother play Battlefront 2
>watched my cousin play KOTOR
>saw a few episodes of TCW as it was coming out
>weirdly enough I didn't really consider myself a big fan because all of this was spread out across years
>TFA is announced
>get hyped and start getting into the EU
>first EU thing I took seriously was either Tales of the Jedi or Dark Horse's Thrawn Trilogy adaptation
>read just about every EU comic
>played tons of games
>read a few novels but mostly just read synopsis' on Wookieepedia for stuff like the Obi-Wan padawan series
>then got into canon
>I've now experienced all canon except for like 5 or so novels that I'm now quickly catching up on.

>>91654011
No. You spouted off like the bitch shill you are and insulted Mark Hamill because he voiced his totally valid opinions that Lucasfilm clearly is upset about and he's a giddamn gem of a man for doing it.

>>91653786
>You can't be wrong by being "radically" good or "radically" selfless.

Lucas dedicated a whole trilogy to exploring how radical adherence to ideals - even such positive ones - leads to shortsightedness and ignorance. Qui-Gon Jinn and RotJ Luke are presented as the optimal Jedi and they were directly at odds with the Jedi Order's doctrine.

Enlightenment, understanding and compassion are the central lessons of the Star Wars saga. Did the old Jedi really demonstrate all of them, for all their self-proclaimed superiority and purity?

>>91653875
>Be me
>Sophomore year of high school
>"Anon what do you mean you've never seen star wars?!"
>eh.jpg
>"Go home and watch star wars"
>watch all six episodes one week
>bretty gud

>>91654098

I think you could add a few more buzzwords to that, maybe you could find some on /tv/

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>>91654011
>this denial

>>91653322
What boards does Anakin go on? /g/?