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What comic should Marvel have Gabby Rivera write next?

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What comic should Marvel have Gabby Rivera write next?

Moon Knight?
Punisher?
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Queer latinx Magneto
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>>91612738
ALL OF THEM!!!

GENIUS LIKE THAT CAN"T BE CONTAINED!!

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Sana needs to be promoted as editor in chief!!
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>>91612738
An illustrated version of her own suicide note.
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>>91612837
she'd probably do a better job than Alonso
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>>91612738
Just a cotton-picking minute here.

THAT'S a woman?
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>>91612738
>Punisher?
Congratulations anon.
I'm fucking around on my phone while taking a shit and you just transformed my anus into a turd guillotine.
How am I supposed crap without any sides?
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>MFW her twitter account says she's tweeted 18 thousand times

holy shit why
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>>91613060
18k tweets is pretty average compared to twitter neets who have counts in the hundreds of thousands.
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>>91612738
Christ, I would honestly love to see her do an issue of Punisher, just to see how badly she fucks it up.
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>>91612738
Exiles.

America is more or less a shitty Exiles story.
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>>91612738
It’s like she’s the archetypal Puerto Rican butch lesbian.
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>>91613419
is that a thing?
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Champions.

Kamala would go around bullying Cyclops and Nova for being cis white men and making them do her homework and chores.
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Fantastic Four.
Queer Sue will cuck Reed with Thundra
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>>91613431
Most definitely. I know a few.
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>>91612738
Bueno Excellente
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I really liked his verse on What's Luv
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>>91613320
>Christ, I would honestly love to see her do an issue of Punisher, just to see how badly she fucks it up.

Frank gets frank'd by a Latina named Frankie who then takes up the Punisher name.

She then goes around franking racists, homophobes and Trump supporters. Sending out a Snapchat story every time she franks someone.
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>>91613099
>compared to twitter neets who have counts in the hundreds of thousands
oh then eighteen thousand tweets is absolutely normal then
ok
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>>91613503
>Sam
>white
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>>91613594
This sounds more like Doom's own fanfiction.
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>>91613989
>This sounds more like Doom's own fanfiction.

A teleporter accident fuses Ms Marvel and Doom similar to Deadpool The Duck.

Now Ms Doom is out to take on the F4 using the powers of superior fanfiction.
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>>91613962

Yes, especially since tweeting is pretty much effortless and takes a total of a couple seconds. Go outside once in a while.
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>>91612738
I'd honestly be very interested in a punisher series written by her.

It would be legendary.
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WHAT IN THE HOLY EJACULATION ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
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>>91613043
Yeah. Haven't you noticed that all her self-inserts(all two of them) are female?
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>>91613979

One drop rule.
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>>91613043
>THAT'S a woman?

Yes.
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>>91612738
>Punisher?
I could see her self-inserting as the All-New All-Different Microchip.
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>>91612738
>writer writes and self publishes le epic coming of age while being gay and Latin story
>get hired by Marvel to shit out garbage
who okayed this decision?
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Marc dosn't deserve this . Let her take over Iceman instead.
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>>91613875
I'm Frank, a lesbian psycho vigilante killer who rights wrongs so hard I gor wrong then right again!

Turns out there's some bigoted shitface I need to clean out with extreme fabulousness.

Oh, you don't like my queer killing style, dude? Well, you can shove your bigoted white male hate up the same hole I'm shoving this shotgun into!
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>>91612738
If you applied to write a comic for Marvel they would tell you to fuck off.

Yet they hire this person.

America is just above Chris Chan's Sonic Chu in terms of narrative focus and structure.
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>>91616066
A comic where its just White male Bobby getting pounded repeatedly be men of color? Well it would likely get the longest thread in /co/ history.
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>>91616122

I can already see #1 cover.
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>>91616122
>White male Bobby getting pounded repeatedly be men of color
Sauce?
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>>91612738
Any that I don't read.

So any current Marvel comic I guess.
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>>91616141
>Sauce
The preview for Iceman #1 showed him signing up to Grindr so June 2017.
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>>91616192
>Grindr
tumblr for homos?
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>>91616200
>tumblr for homos
you mean Tinder? Yeah.
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>>91616200
It's Tinder for gays.

>>91612738
Is Frank one of the few Marvel properties that hasn't just been completely ruined by SJWs in the past few years?
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Whose the bitch and what did she ruin? Out of morbid curiosity.
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>>91614142
Tweeting once does, tweeting 18k times doesnt
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>>91616243
Marvel's new diversity hire.

Ruined America Chavez.
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>>91616272
How do your ruin something that always sucked?
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>>91616243
America Chavez a mildly interesting character that no one ever really cared about. She managed to make her unbearable. The book is also really subtle.
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>>91616272
How can you ruin a garbage character?
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>>91616282
When writers do dialogue like this, they should imagine how it would sound with the colours reversed.
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>>91616282
>>91616285
I mean she's actually fine in Ultimates where she's brash and arrogant without 1) not being able to back it up 2) being an idiot 3) being more obnoxious than she's *meant* to be.

To be honest most of the takes I've seen on Rivera's America book *even from fans of the character* have been: I'm not enjoying this, but maybe some queer latin teen is and it's more important that they do than that I do. Which is some pussyfoot approach to criticism even in the absolute best light.

Marvel is fond of grabbing prose authors who seem on-point for a book or character and putting them into comics and sometimes that really works. But there's also a perception that prose is above comics and that really does NOT work because a lot of prose first-timers totally fail out at comics construction. I would bet that the new Generation X is going to appeal to the same market as America but be a lot better because the person writing it has experience in the industry, has worked as a colorist for a long time, has written for a serial TV show and has written their own serial (web)comic. That is a lot better as comic book experience than just being of the same approximate minority group as a character. It's one reason why I see DC's "we train you to write comics" workhouse as a lot healthier than Marvel's grab-bag of new talents.
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>>91616285
>>91616281
That's just how terrible her book is. She ruined what was already a turd sandwich.
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>>91613652
See all the chicks I know who look like her are cool. They give me nice drugs for cheap and when we hang we watch old kung fu movies and shit. Why is she this terrible. HOW IS SHE THIS TERRIBLE?
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>>91616250
Think about how many times you have posted on 4chan before you try and fail to make fun of people for using twitter.
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>>91613060
That's... not a terribly huge number, depending on when she joined Twitter, which is like a decade old now.

Just 3 tweets a day will get you more than a thousand tweets a year, and if you're an author trying to hype stuff that's coming out you will tweet a lot more heavily than 3 tweets a day.
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>>91616200
Grindr is basically an app for having as much sex as possible in the next 24 hours.
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>>91616282
Wait did someone just die? Also brown fist is what you do in sex clubs.
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>>91616192
>The preview for Iceman #1 showed him signing up to Grindr
Classy, Marvel
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>>91612738
Damn that is one ugly woman. Even if she was a dude, she would look bad, and that is something.
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>>91615993
From the thumbnail I thought it was that black kid from some weird movie that gets posted all the time.
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>>91613675
>She fucks up the only spanish he talks
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>>91616581
>Buenx Excellente
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>>91616431
>Why is she this terrible.

She produced garbage and has received nothing but glowing praise since. Editoral probably told her she submitted great work. Thinks people that have had anything negative to say about it are just trolls, even if it's constructive criticism.

She wasn't told to write a good superhero comic. She was told to write a comic about a lesbian latina. So that is the focus of the story, that she is lesbian and latina. The rest is just filler.

When writers forget they are writing a superhero comic that's when it turns to shit. Yes, characters should be interesting, but when it's just about the color of their skin or sexuality, it's terrible. I don't want a comic about Wolverine fucking a different girl every issue either and going on how great it is to be a straight white man.
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>>91616486
That's really just your standard Puerto Rican lesbian.
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>>91616647
It's not even a good or relateable comic. I'm a queer hispanic guy who grew up with a lot of racism and I feel like I identified a lot more with characters like Ben Grimm or Rogers or Superman.
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>>91616721
I agree these writers are so out of touch and self absorbed in their little bubbles that they can't see more than 2 inches in front of them.
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>>91616272
That's an oxymoron anon.
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She was hired because her race and sexuality to write a characther with the same race and sexuality
So no when America is done she is gone from the company
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>>91616647
>I don't want a comic about Wolverine fucking a different girl every issue either and going on how great it is to be a straight white man.
This.

Superhero comics should be about superheroes first and foremost. The superhero them self can be of any gender, race, sexuality, or creed provided the focus is on them being a superhero.

Can race, gender, sexuality, and/or creed inform the character? Absolutely and it should, but it should NEVER be the focus of the character. Even in PSA comics the story should still be about the superhero being a superhero.
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>>91616477
Not specifically Grindr, more a singles dating website. He's terrible at being gay apparently.
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She's the antithesis of Gene Luen Yang. Like imagine Yang wrote about the Chinese American and all his narratives and characters are exactly the thing people think about when they think of Chinese American/Chinese stereotypes and Yang's writing fails to convince you otherwise. That's how her characters feel like, they're the caricature and stereotype of those kinds of people.
Worst thing is they really can't call her out because of who she is. Because she has got the seal of authenticity and no matter how absurd shit gets, she won't be called out for it.
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>>91616447

I don't think I have 18k posts on 4chan and I've been here since 2004.
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>>91612738
Stan Lee's obituary.
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>>91617006
t. lurker
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>>91616827
>He's terrible at being gay apparently
Almost as if it were forced on him by someone else, someone with psychic powers
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>>91617067

I post pretty often. Just not 18k often.
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>>91616647

PREACH

The fatal flaw in a lot of diversity comics is that characters are defined by their race, gender, sexuality, etc. and nothing more. What I don't get is why Marvel scooped this nobody off of tumblr and gave them this comic. Did they really think people would buy it? Why not get a good writer with some recognition to give it a much needed boost?

Even though Waid is shit now I'd understand why he'd be put on a potentially low selling comic. This comic needed all the help it could get and Marvel just grabbed this person. They might as well burn money, it's just as wasteful.
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>>91612738
The way Marvel's going, she'll probably be writing the Ex-Men.
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>>91617228

What's really sad is they used to get it. Generation X was a book built around diversity and it was great. The whole point was making characters that weren't defined by their stereotypes and they did a great job of it. Now "diversity" is about fetishizing those qualities. They treat being gay or brown or trans like an accessory to take on and off that somehow makes a character interesting irrespective of anything else. Then they use progressiveness like a shield to ignore any legitimate criticism of their half assed approach. If you don't like it, it's because you're a bigot not because the story itself is horseshit.
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>>91616282
>Pure white
>It's pink

What did she mean by this?
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>>91612738
Renew you vows
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>>91614142
wait he needs to go outside because he doesn't know it's normal to tweet 18,000 times? youre fucking daft
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>>91619044
America is actually colorblind, you ableist shitbag
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How come lesbians don't make themselves look feminine if they're attracted to women?
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>>91612738
why are you shitlords limiting such a great writer to Marvel properties? can't you see what greatness she could bring to such classic comics like Miracleman, Hellboy, Spawn, or Crossed?
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>>91616647

Which is how I've noticed most of DC handles diversity.

Also, I've known plenty of black nerds who didn't give a shit about Captain America's race, only that he's Captain Fucking America.
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>>91613875
>and Trump supporters
Not daddy! He needs supporters, daddy!
Why are they bullying daddy? Daddy is a good president
We want cummies from daddy!
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>>91613431
Why you think even latin america hates Puerto Rico
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>>91620674

Because everyone in Latin America hates everyone else. They're as bad as Asians when it comes to that shit.
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>>91620726
Not really anon i'm from latin america, it's mostly about humor, we have different cultures, believes, etc, but we all take it as joke at the end, meanwhile you guys can even take a joke without start to crying like babies
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>>91614998

I know the first one was in the first page of the first issue, but who's the second self-insert?
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>>91620726
>Because everyone in Latin America hates everyone else
sounds like eastern europe to me
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>>91621134

Sounds like everywhere, to be honest. Everyone hates their neighbors.
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>>91612738
All America's friends look like chicano trash, let me guess this fat dyke is one those " Muh latino heritage", but bitch dosen't even know how to speak spanish or a single shit about the culture
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>>91612847
Pretty much this senpai.
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>>91619855
>Hellboy
Don't even joke about that Anon.
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>>91621222
The dialog in the issues seems to suggests she knows a smattering of Spanish phrases, that she randomly uses in her speech to sound more authentic. Plus the painful attempts to make a romance language nongendered.
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>>91621222
>>91621303
People on twitter are cursing her in Spanish, which she doesn't understand.
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>>91621077
The leader of the dyke dance squad (DDS). If America is Sonichu, the self-insert is Chris-Chan.
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>>91621303
You can use gender neutral in spanish because completly destroy the lenguage and sentence end up unreadable, someone suggested in my country one time last year, all the academic told it was stupid and bullshit
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>>91616600
I get the feeling Latinos who see this kind of butchering of their language the same way us Americans feel when we hear someone unironically say xir.
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>>91616721
>Ben Grimms
That's interesting, ya don't hear much about The Thing, even though he's the most interesting of the fantastic four.
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>>91621498
Interesting enough to have a solo series that lasted years.
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>>91621347
link? that sounds hilarious
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>>91616924
^
Fuckin' this
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>>91621389

Oh! Now that I've looked at the page, she does look like her.
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>>91621470
Thats the strage thing anon real latinos hate America, the only people buying this book are either the queer yas queens or white people that think this piece of shit is how latin american people behave, for god sake all latinos in Gabby's book look like low class cholos people that are hated in latin america.

>Pa' la calle, mi jente
Sounds like something a low reggeaton singer would say while snorting cocaine in a pile of money

No se ustede chicos, pero para mi todo esto es una real mierda
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>>91621598
I hope there's a character called EL GATO VOLADOOOOOOR EL GATO VOLADOOOOOOR
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>>91621598
You have just internalized the racism, anon. I am sorry you had to find out like this.
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>>91621347
You have to give an example anon, you can't just leave us hanging.
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>>91621347
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>>91621658
You're right, señor anonimo can you please educate me with your superior inteligence and moral, maybe i could ever learn neutral pronouns
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>>91621523
What run was this, I'd like to check it out.
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>>91621636
Go to bed grandpa, this is what cool kids listen these days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du1UJyRwmts
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>>91621698
Ay caramba
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>>91621598
>Real Latinos hate America

I thought you meant the country for a second there. That's just another reason to hate Chavez's name.
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>>91621598
>the only people buying this book are either the queer yas queens or white people that think this piece of shit is how latin american people behave
I have the stinging feeling that if this crap is shown in my campus, people will unironically support it (once they discover who's writing it, of course)

>Sounds like something a low reggeaton singer would say while snorting cocaine in a pile of money
Aye, or a far-left figurehead trying to stir shit and gain voters.
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>>91621720
The good old days.
http://www.comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=222711
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>>91621763
>Aye, or a far-left figurehead trying to stir shit and gain voters.
What?
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>>91615993
looks like a fat 13 year old "nerd but gangsta" boy
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>>91621864
We have a lot of those around here. Then they become senators and do jackshit.
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>>91621957
>GABBY QUIERE SER GANGSTA, PERO SU MAMA NO LE DEJA
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>>91621971
Yeah anon, i totally not study there
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>>91621971
>Facho pobre
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>>91621971
How many chileans are in this board?
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>>91621470
It's far worse. Here's a famous example of gender neutral spanish.

>Lxs niñxs fueron a lx escuelx a ver sus amigxs

It's completely fucking unpronounceable to anyone but the gabachos and MECHA pochos.
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>>91622452
Too many.
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>>91622555
>Lsh niñshs fueron a lsh escuelsh a ver sus amigshs
There.
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>>91612816
Magnetx
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>>91622618
What did i do to you anon?
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>>91622723
MAGNET-X
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>>91622555
How the fuck am I supposed to pronounce that shit? Was this devised by aliens or something?
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>>91621470
Honestly it's stupid because the male words can also be treated as gender neutral

This article explains it better

http://swarthmorephoenix.com/2015/11/19/the-argument-against-the-use-of-the-term-latinx/
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>>91622811
Yes, illegal aliens to be exact.
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>>91623010
>reeeeee, the male is the default
I can see this going down well
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>>91620674
They're jealous it's part of the real America.
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>>91623282
Yeah anon, because America totally loves Puerto Rico, half of the population forgets that they're part of the country
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>>91623336
B-but West Side Story!
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>>91623358
The only good thing Puerto Rico that came out of that shithole was Biggie
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>>91612847
It better be a still life.
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>>91622685
Try saying that gabacho transliteration in any latin american couuntry. At best they'll think you're a downie with a lisp.
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