What the fuck was the moral of this episode? the one where hank

this was a horrible episode

it basically told hank to go back to his boring old self

What is this "more all" that you. King of the Hill does not preach morals, its characters do. And they're always conflicting both with each other and the things that actually happen in the show. That's the point.

But Testosterone is a dangerous drug and it's not something a healthy grown man should be taking.

>>91587688
I think it was something along the lines of a real man honors his obligations, so Hank does the bull run and Bobby takes a group shower.

To show what a horrible selfish person Peggy was.

>>91587688
it was DONT FUCKING DRUG PEOPLE

>>91588038
this

>>91587688
Same as almost all the episodes: Peggy is a terrible person.

>>91587701
status quo is good

I don't think I could have hated Peggy more after this ep

>What was the moral

Why do people keep asking this about KotH? It's a comedy, there doesn't always have to be a moral.

>>91590095
comedy cartoons are where I derive most of my morals

>>91590078
Are you a gorilla? Read beyond the words "testosterone" and "bad". Generally, only people with medical issues take hormones for a reason. No, the testosterone in your balls (assuming someone so defensive has any) is not bad for you.

>>91590108
I guess that explains why the far-right is gaining so much traction.

>>91587743
>and it's not something a healthy grown man should be taking.

I forget. Didn't a doctor recommend it, but Hank turned him down? I thought it was something like that.

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>>91590078
Insecure /fit/cuck, you're as bad a faggot as the muh triggered nu-males you despise, always ready to get offended

I bet you don't even lift lmao1pl8
Faggot

>>91590148
He did, then Peggy over dosed him into a second puberty causing Hanks body to produce less testosterone on it's own fucking him over in the end.

>>91590148
Doctor recommended a small dose of it gradually.

And then Peggy snuck it into his coffee and basically made him overdose/dependent on it.

It would have shrunk his balls if Peggy had kept it going OR if she had suddenly stopped.

>>91590131
king of the hill is one of the most politically-center shows ever made
the first season or two are mainly "lol rednecks r dumb," as mike judge shows are mainly about taking a group of people and showing off their idiocy and hypocrisy. Afterwards it's more about showing the necessity for Hank's moral absolutism and reconciling it with the way the world really works.

>>91590078
taking it is bad you fucking mong.

enjoy the shrivelled testicles

>>91587743
>testosterone is bad for you
quite the fucking opposite lol
When i start getting old im doping on that shit myself

>>91590191

Well with the narrow urethra it doesn't really matter if his balls shrink.

>>91590376
I suggest you do some research on the subject instead of going by mom science

>>91590398
herp a derp

http://www.livestrong.com/article/222751-the-effects-of-testosterone-on-the-testis/
>Testosterone affects the size and shape of the testicles. The testicles naturally produce testosterone, which contributes to the size and shape of the testicles. According to Drugs.com, testosterone enanthate, testosterone cypionate and testosterone gel can have side effects that include changes in the size and shape of the testes. MayoClinic.com lists "shrunken testicles" among common side effects of anabolic-androgenic steroids, which are synthetic derivatives of testosterone. Clinicians may attempt to offset testicular shrinkage with human chorionic gonadotropin, or HCG. HCG helps prevent testicle shrinkage and infertility. HCG may also boost adrenal functioning, libido and overall energy.

>>91590078
>>91590377
>>91590398
Just so you know, besides the testicle atrophy thing (which is whatever, who the fuck cares about the size of their balls), you'll increase the likelihood of prostate cancer.

>who cares about that, I'll be an old man by then!
With the way immunotherapy is going maybe they'll cure it (and all cancer), but my dad had prostate and bladder cancer and it was a pretty terrible way to die.
I know you think you'll kill yourself if you ever get cancer, but you won't, and as the cancer devours your insides, it also devours your cognitive capabilities and your strength. By the time you're ready to die, you're too weak to kill yourself, but not weak enough to be dead.

>>91590398
Your testicles atrophy m8. Feedback inhibition tells them to make less test when you take exogenous test. If you are taking enough exogenous test that its not a complete waste of time (more than you naturally produce) the feedback inhibition shrinks your testicles.

>>91590494
>testosterone causes prostate cancer
No it doesn't. You're obviously a woman, but dont worry its a common misconception. Youre confusing testosterone with another hormone.
>shrinks your balls
firstly who cares
second, your balls shrink because you are getting your testosterone from somewhere else. they return to normal otherwise

are there literal testosterone shills from the pharmaceutical companies in this thread?

>>91590563
>they return to normal otherwise
not on their own!

>>91590571
No just people that dont have an arm chair science understanding of the subject

>>91590578
Yes they do. If you stop ingesting it artificially

>>91590591
>On a board about comics and cartoons
>"I have an advanced understanding on hormone therapy treatments"
>"B-But that doesn't mean I work in pharmaceuticals, it's very common for a comic book neckbeard to just know this stuff!"
I'm on to you

>>91590606
nope, sorry

>>91590624
I have friends that have roided and done hormone therapy in the past.
Their ballsacs did shrink but once they stopped roiding they returned to normal.
sorry but youre wrong

>>91590640
Anecdotal evidence isnt proof of anything. Especially on an anonymous tibetan tapestry forum. Post some peer reviewed article.

>>91590640
Do you and your friends usually talk about your ballsacks?

>>91590376
Your balls go back to normal after you go off and run PCT. Or you can just take HCG while on cycle and they will never shrink. But temporarily smaller balls aren't so bad, your dick just looks bigger by comparison.

>>91590686
Yes?
It's a guy thing, you wouldn't understand

>>91590723
hmm

>>91590563
>No it doesn't.
The treatment for prostate cancer is literally to take testosterone blocking drugs. Believe what you want, the fact is everyone adult male will eventually get prostate cancer, and flooding your body with testosterone you otherwise wouldn't have is going to promote the activity of your prostate gland and ultimately result in cancer.

>>91590571
>are there literal testosterone shills from the pharmaceutical companies in this thread?
No, just people trying to convince themselves that their abuse of steroids for short term gains won't pay off with long term misery.

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>>91590708
see>>91590432


>helps
>infertility
>libido
>overall energy

what could possibly go wrong?

>>91590742
>Testosterone does not cause prostate cancer, and neither does testosterone hormone therapy but it can make prostate cancer grow in patients that already have it," said Gilbert. "It might be like adding flame to the fire." According to guidelines from the Endocrine Society, you should not take testosterone if you have prostate cancer
http://www.everydayhealth.com/news/signs-you-shouldnt-take-testosterone-therapy/
The myth that testosterone causes prostate cancer is feminist propaganda to pacify and castrate our young men to make them more submissive to the matriarchy.

>>91587688
You're not a man simply because you're tough and do dangerous things. There's more to it.

>>91590793
you still shouldn't get roided up

>>91590777
Checked

funny that administration of estrogen in post-menopause women is quite widespread and accepted, if they don't have a mustache they probably use it, but TRT? No, testosterone evil.

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>>91590832
And why shouldn't I?
Because it makes people uncomfortable?
Because its "gross"?
pic related is 75 years old, and he dopes with testosterone and is healthy as a horse.

>>91590864
because it's unnatural and turns you into a roided out douchebag

>>91590886
medicine is "unnatural", not an argument

>>91590793
>The myth that testosterone causes prostate cancer is feminist propaganda to pacify and castrate our young men to make them more submissive to the matriarchy.

I take it you have a small dick?

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>>91590886
Funny no one tells this to women or trans people that dope themselves up with estrogen but the moment a guy wants to take roids or testosterone therapy everyone loses their minds.

>>91590903
I'm talking about in the context of general bodily health and build. You didn't "earn" those muscles and now you have a bunch of shitty side effects to deal with...

>>91590793
>castrate

your balls already produce testosterone. You don't need any more

>>91590926
Still bigger than yours man hating cunt.

>>91590941
critical hit!

>>91590939
Sometimes they stop producing enough, which is why you get men with low testosterone levels in their body.

These men are more likely to be depressed, slothful, have no motivation, can easily gain body fat and lose muscle mass.

>>91587688

The very unspecific moral is basically just don't try to be someone you're not or take responsibility etc...
in other words just typical bland cliche stuff but there is also obviously meant to be a more specific message because like always in KoTH there is very down to earth and somewhat realistic execution to it

The more specific message is obviously dealing with masculinity and its role in society

Taking testosterone allows Hank to become the popular image of masculinity that corporations and other groups utilize for marketing purposes and general manipulation
Essentially its the type of masculinity that people are driven to find desirable by societal pressures

But ironically enough in becoming that person Hank actually becomes more unstable and childish which leads him to the ultimate realization that being a man is not the same as "being a man"

>>91590941
All jokes aside, you are seriously pathetic, dude. Taking testerone for body-building purposes is unhealthy and dumb, even by /fit/ standards. Earn your muscles like a real man instead of throwing an /r9k/-style tantrum.

>>91590927
Estrogen also increases risk of breast/cervical/endometrial etc. cancers. People are probably more bothered by a woman with a mustache than a flabby man

>>91590930
The benefits outweigh any side effects. The side effects are exaggerated.

>>91590983
>The benefits outweigh any side effects
I don't think getting stole a few months earlier is worth potential infertility

>>91590930
I don't take roids but I'll surely cruise once I reach mid 30s. Fuck becoming weak, tired, soft and less virile. The side effects are minimal and manageable, athletes who are known to have taken 1g/week of test still live to their 70s.

>>91590983
Whatever helps you sleep. It's a free country.

>>91590965
Nah, its actually very beneficial and has more health benefits than the negative side effects feminists can pull from their asses. Many men around the world are much healthier on test than they would be off of it.

>earn your muscles
Listen little man,if you aren't competing in sports or some kind of contest then its perfectly acceptable to roid or take test.
You sound like a beta or someone that has never tried lifting weights in their life...

>>91590927
women are untouchable in todays world anon

>>91590999
pathetic

>>91590927
Yes they fucking do, but the people who want to transition don't care.

>>91590926
Steroids don't shrink your dick btw. I know you might not have been implying that but it's a myth that goes around. Some may even increase penis size at least temporarily (halotestin).

>>91590999
Checked

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>>91591003
So in a way you'll be paying for your muscles

>>91590995
You won't go infertile from running a cycle. If you go on permanently you may. Even then it can be prevented with HCG.

>>91591003
>if you aren't competing in sports or some kind of contest then its perfectly acceptable to roid or take test.

nahhhhhh

don't be lazy, that's a deadly sin.

>>91591097
or I could just earn it the natural, healthy way that doesn't fuck with my body's delicate chemical balance and leaves me a depressed husk in my 40s

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>>91591079
Not at all.
The thing about muscles is not like a video game. You can't just spend money on stuff and expect them to get bigger automatically. Even with roids, you have to work your ass off, so no matter what,the men you see in the gym windows grunting and flexing as you exhuastedly waddle past them have earned those muscles.
>>91591113
Put a ballgag in it you silly slut, that in no way makes any sense.

>>91591127
>natural is healthy

kek
enjoy osteoporosis from test deficiency

>>91591150
in this case? yeah

>>91591127
>earn it
>stop cheating yourself
>don't be lazy don't take roids
you people are so basic holy fuck

>>91591164
lol, not an argument roidmonkey

>>91591177
So... by your logic an old man dying of Pneumonia shouldn't be allowed to take any medicines or roids to help him breathe better and survive

Yeah, that makes sense. He's cheating himself by taking those roids man. He should earn his health and not take the easy way out. He's just cheating himself.

>>91591226
no, we're moving the goalposts here.

>>91591127
There have been studies showing that guys who take test without doing any exercise end up gaining more muscle than guys who work out drug free. If you are not competing in anything you're not cheating by using steroids. People have a wide variety in how much test their body produces naturally, which limits how big their gains will be. One natty guy could be way stronger than another natty guy with less exercise just because his body produces more test. Life is unfair.

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>>91591237
Nah man, anyone that takes drugs and doesn't do things naturally is just cheating themselves.
They should just earn it by doing things fair and square even though its not a competition.

Idk what the big deal is
The medial issues associated with moderate steroid use are pretty minimal compared to the benefits
And doctors regularly prescribe steroids to men, especially older men

>>91591279
Taking testosterone for muh swole is a bit different from taking it to literally survive, not to mention you're already old at that point anyway, so

i mean, damn think about it at least a little

>>91591255
>you're not cheating by using steroids.

you're cheating yourself. I mean, if you're not competing in anything why take roids at all? Certainly not for health reasons given the side effects

>>91591333
This "difference" you speak is not relevant at all and based solely on your personal bias on the subject matter.

You say its wrong and unnatrual simply because seeing men get their youth and vigor back just makes you uncomfortable.
>>91591350
Side effects are negligible considering the benefits, and there is nothing wrong with roiding PRECISELY because you are not competing.
I don't get you people.
Someone roids in sports you complain.
Some average guy roids that doesn't compete in sports you complain.
Pure unfiltered jealously is the only thing that can explain it.

>>91590494
Look at this projecting cry baby.
>my dad had cancer
>boo-hoo
>this makes me an expert now even though im wrong.
You need cancer, tell your corpse father to share

>>91591350
Anon, you're wrong just stop. Go attend your D.A.R.E. meeting or something.
Waddle on

>>91591376
lol back to /b/, edgetard, this board is for adults

>>91591374
If you're not a bodybuilder, why are you roiding up?
To get bitches?
If so, muscles are only good for fat sluts, see /fit/.

This is a terrible thread.

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>>91591538
I agree.
/co/ definitely is not going to make it.

>>91591525
>muscles are only good for fat sluts

delusional skinnyfat

>>91591525
If someone takes roids then they are usually on the path to becoming a bodybuilder, or are trying to break through their body's barrier of muscular plateau.

>>91591578
You arent getting good ass unless you have money too.
Muscles get you the bottom tier bitches.

>>91591608
>this is what dylefags genuinely believe
So you're telling me if a ripped guy was hitting on you and had the cash you wouldn't let him smash?

>>91590352
Which is why when they commissioned him to do a liberal version it was scrapped quickly. People don't like looking into the mirror sometime.

>>91591627
Nigger you gotta get into that situation.
If youre autistic but swole, you'll end up back here.

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>>91591652
You didn't answer my question, whore

>surely I won't experience any negative side effects of abusing drugs! everyone else must have just gotten unlucky

>>91591608
every women loves muscles. every single one of them, fat, skinny, rich, poor, black, asian, white, dumb, nerdy. forget what they tell you. If you're trying to say that muscles aren't guarantee laid, and that if you're poor socially inept motherfucker you'll still find difficulty to get a long-term relationship, sure, but they help and it's better to have them than not to.

>>91591681
>abusing drugs=/= taking them with doctor's recommendation and only in moderate doses
????

>>91591709
nobody has any issues with following doctors orders

>>91591704
>If you're trying to say that muscles aren't guarantee laid, and that if you're poor socially inept motherfucker you'll still find difficulty to get a long-term relationship
Basically.

>>91591866
Most people take test and roids on doctors orders lmfao.
They even tell you how low your levels are

>>91592004
okay, that's not what we're talking about

>>91592044
Even if they take it with prescription that doesn't mean they are going to abuse it you soccer mom.

>>91592044
>>91592231
*without

>>91590571
They're all over /fit/.

What a fucking weird thread

>>91590624
Hyogonadism isn't certain. It depends on genetic predisposition, dosage, and treatment.
Fuck off.

>>91590939
They can produce less than is ideal.
And faggots like you will deny replacement therapy because "muh roids".

>>91591647
liberals are capable of laughing at themselves, look at Portlandia.
the goode family was just too unappealing. The character models on mike judge shows are the opposite of aesthetically pleasing, the characters were too irredeemable (starving their dog, suppressing their kid...) and the plotlines just involved too much gross shit (an endangered species that is so ugly that the only way it can mate is by using its built in chloroform glands)

>>91587688
It was not about testosterone. It was about deception. Hank didn't stop taking testosterone because it was bad for him. He stopped because Peggy had been secretly drugging him, altering his perception of his physical energy and shifting mood. This parallels with Bobby's refusal to shower in gym and lie about it later. The testosterone was just an opportunity for some gags.

This message is even directly stated by Hank in the climax in case you were all that fucking blind.

>>91590131
Only a far leftists would think KotH was far right. It was as centralist as you could get. Just because it shows right leaning folks in a good light doesn't make it far right. It shows left and right as both correct and stupid depending on the issues at hand. Just because it's not a leftist wankfest doesn't make it pro far right

>>91590965
>'muh earned'
never juiced but man youre a huge faggot

>>91591350
You are stronger, you look better, you feel better, it has psychological benefits, you feel confident and assured, you become more assertive, people show you more respect, men want to be your friend, women want to be your lover, everything in your life improves beyond measure.

>>91595394
That's just vanity

>>91587688
it reminded me of that time i injured my neck and my mom totally knew what to do so she grabbed my head and pulled it to the other side really hard injuring me further

>>91590886

Steroids don't MAKE you a douchebag. You're already a douchebag and then you take steroids. And that's completely okay

>>91590965
>>91590930

>What's the point in catching a plane overseas instead of running and swimming there? You didn't earn your arrival

The fucking point is literally to surpass natural human limitations. If you're not a retard, that means reaching your peak natty potential first and THEN juicing, followed by a continued commitment to vigorous training to take full advantage of your enhanced recovery. Otherwise the roid gains will just go to waste

>>91587688
- Don't go to the doctor and tell therm to fix your son because he's lazy and weak.

- Don't prescribe medicine the patient doesn't want just because the wife has a different opinion.

- Don't take medication in larger doses than prescribed by a doctor. You don't know better.

- Don't drug people.

>>91590826

It certainly got Nancy wet.

friendly reminder roided freaks are faggots

>>91595871
that doesn't sound healthy

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>>91595455
The entire world treats people who are on gear better. Whether it's the change in personality that makes the person more assertive, the increase in size and muscle mass, something to do with pheromones, or some combination of these. Is it shallow of the world to react in this way? Maybe so. But you will go further in life if you conduct yourself based on how the world actually is. So it's vain. Okay. But the whole world is vain, I didn't make the rules, I just act according to them.

If your life is great already maybe I could understand you being wary of the risks. But a lot of people on /co/ complain about having a shit life. These people have little to lose and a lot to gain, with very little risk if they practice due diligence.

Super soldier serum is real. I guarantee you the actor who plays Captain America is on steroids, as are those who play Thor, Wolverine and most other superheroes. But /co/ is cowardly to take the serum and will remain 90 pound weaklings.

>>91588280
that seemed to be the point of a lot of episodes

>>91590055
he knows

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>>91590723
>It's a gay thing, you wouldn't understand
you're right, I wouldn't