Why was the Scotsman a match for Jack? I understand their swords

the fact that he can stand up to jack obviously means he isn't just some dude

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>>91564533
One of Batman's rogues is a guy with a knife.

>>91564560
But is he a match for Batman in combat?

>>91564533
What, you think the Scottsman isn't a match for jack? You shitpostin', fiddlyfingered, bugeyed, no sleepin',,

Guy lives in a post apocalyptic Aku ruled world with killer robots up the wazoo, real life trained him.

>>91564533
Jack is good at everything but the Scotsman is his equal in combat. Clearly the Scotsman has only trained in one thing but trained well enough to excel to Jack's level.

>>91564558
We can't say for no backstory is told, until then he can only assume he is a nobody.

Jack is some dude too

You see, the mistake the Emperor made is training his SON. He should have trained the chosen one whose destiny was prophesied in legend. He let nepotism get the best of him and now everything's fucked.

>>91564533
He's built like a fucking brick shit house and has a magical sword. Not to mention as has been stated he has survived in an apocalyptic hellscape his whole life.

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>>91564586
Depends on the writer. In the Arkham series he was a bitch, in other stuff he's less so.

>>91564658
we already know the scotsman from a long-surviving warrior clan
you only get to survive by being good

>>91564586
Batman isn't the best Fighter in the world. One of the Batgirls was a better fighter than him.

>>91564533
>Questioning the magic ruins

Ya shitpostin'

>>91564533
The Scotsman has probably also spent most of his life fighting random robots or dinosaurs or whatever, the future is a weird place.

>Implying magic shit helps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGvVHt6UP2U

>>91566749
BASKET WEARIN

the dynamic works because the Scotsman is very different from jack, he is large, boorish, unrefined and brutish whereas jack is small, precise, reserved and quiet and at first you think they are gonna hate each other but then we see they make great friends as they are connected by a warrior spirit which is the dynamic of all of the show. jack going around and fighting for that which is good in all different kinds of people (scots, spartans, water niggas). jack is a very classical hero in the way that he is a warrior for a universal good and so too is the scotsman which is how they connect.

>>91564533
Jack would have probably beaten him if he had more room to maneuver

>>91564658
He's the second most wanted man on Earth behind Jack.

>>91564691
Everybody comes from a long-surviving lineage

he isn't a match for jack
didn't you watch the episode where the scotsman lost to Jack at tic-tac-toe, a race, distant rock throw, rock-paper-scissors and finally thumb wrestling?

>>91564533
I like to think that Jack isn't the only chosen one and that the gods were edging their bets, the scotsman is another guy on a holy mission to kill Aku.

>>91567470
>distant rock throw
To be fair he had to cheat on that one since Jack is demonstrably shit at tossing rocks. The scotsman's mistake was setting contests of finesse instead of brute strength, Jack looked like he was going to shit his pants when the scotsman suggested wrestling, until he appended 'thumb' to it.

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>>91564533
>gigantic burly warrior who's been fighting his entire life
>a fucking highlander
>with a machine gun for a leg
>wielding grenades and a bagpipe
>and a giant sword with magic runes
>married to a even bigger and more agressive beast
>"is just some dude"

The Scottish have a history of notable warriors, comparable to Japan's samurai.

It's funny too because Jack is a Highlander now.

>>91564533
MAGIC RUNES LADDIE

>>91567680
>married to a even bigger and more agressive beast

HOW DER YA

>>91564609
That's true of everyone Jack meets.

>>91564533
I think it's like a Mugen and Jin type of situation.

Scottsman is more freestyle and Jack knows all sorts of disciplines.

>>91564697
One of the batgirls was the child assassin daughter of the actual (alleged) best fighter in the world

>>91564533
They were on a bridge with low mobility.
Scotsman's a bruiser and Jack's agile but the latter can't move around.
Jack excels in taking down an opponents defenses but Scotsman's magic runes prevent his sword from being shattered and his firm muscle tightens his grip on his blade.
In terms of stamina, they are both equal

>>91567465
only the people who survived

>>91564533
It's been said but bears repeating: the Scotsman has been fighting robotic monsters presumably his whole life. Just because we only see Jack's training doesn't mean no other competent warriors exist.

>>91564533
A dude who can lift a tank. He's got superhuman capabilities, probably because of his highlander physique.

>>91564533

Skill is overrated. I'd put my money on body mass when it comes to random street fights. If you're the best fighter in the world but the guy you're fighting has two hundred pounds over you, I'm pretty sure the bigger guy can still beat the shit out of you.

>>91568523
This.

That yeti from the monk episode would've killed Jack if he didn't scream like a faggot.

>>91564658
The fact that Aku has a bounty on his head implies that he is definitely threatening.

>>91568523
While if it is 2 random people yes more than likely the guy heavier and longer reach wins.
Trained fighter not so much, while longer and heavier gives you advantages the human body has incredible potential for destruction and a lot of weak points.

>>91568523
this is why the first lesson in self defence is how to avoid getting into a fight in the first place

>>91568617

I'm glad to hear they teach that because TV / movies always seem to communicate the total opposite idea that you can somehow learn karate as a 5'2 110 lb girl and then go around beating up full grown men.

The closest thing to an exception I've ever seen is Bruce Lee. I haven't seen a single other person similar to him though, I think he was as an extreme of a physical oddity as Newton was a mental oddity.

Jack wasn't trying as hard as he could have because he doesn't kill people nor did it seem like the Scotsman was trying to kill him ether.

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You have to imagine that Samurai Jack has unbreakable plot armor. He's basically Batman. He can never lose or get injured unless the plot demands it. He's just a regular guy with martial art skills and he's survived hundreds of encounters with killer robots, demons, and monsters; and he's been doing this for over 50 years. It's completely unbelievable, but you kind of just have to accept it.

>>91567680
Rip in peace the dumb nigger that insulted the scotsman's wife.

>>91568795

I mean, the series title is literally Samurai Jack

>>91568689
Bruce Lee was jacked as fuck m8
he was so jacked he started to develop wings

>>91564533
Aku put a price on the scotsman's head, he isn't just some guy.
Plus, the scene in which jack and the scotsman fight is meant to establish them as peers.

>>91569293

He was 5'7 and his weight fluctuated between 125 lb and 145 lb.

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>>91569293
>>91569760

>>91568616
You watch too much tv.
There is a reason why weight limits exist.
The bigger guy always has a huge advantage.
The only time the smaller guy has a chance is when you either get rid of all rules or you have enough rules that pull to a smaller persons favor.

>>91570295
When are we talking about competitive fighting? Stop trying to move the goal post.
I said trained fighters I didn't say trained fighters in a competitive setting.

>>91568689
one of my favorite exercises in martial arts classes is the knife exercise, where they ask for an untrained volunteer and give him a marker pen and ask him to use it as if it was a knife and try to slash the martial arts students who will try and take the "knife" from him or disarm him.
it's extremely rare for anyone to come away unmarked at least once, even very experienced fighters and if you fuck up and get actually stabbed, you're probably not going to try a second attempt at grabbing it

so rule #1 is avoiding getting into a fight in the first place, rule #2 is how to break away from a fight as quickly as possible, evasion, escape routes etc

>>91564533
Because a warrior of light can only vanquish the darkness.

>>91564658
Nobody's can be strong too.

>>91568795

this, he doesnt even learn to use ki like some of the xiaolin monks did in that one episode, hes not a superfighter, hes basically just really clevevr and plain lucky

>>91570295

you are mostly right but you are forgetting two factors:

1) its true that the bigger you are the harder you fall, being heavier means that you are more prone to fall injury if someone manages to knock you down

2) being lighter offers legitimate advantages if you take weaponry into account

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>>91569760
Nigger looks like he could glide.

>>91564560
when you only have one trick, it's easier to master that trick to perfection. he could probably beat batman in a knife fight

>>91570489

Too bad he couldn't train the muscles that keep your brain from leaking out in a cerebral edema.

>>91570559
Neither can you. Hell you can die from an aneurysm rn.

>>91570317
I'm stating a real life practical example of how even trained fighters know that there is an inherent advantage to just having size.
A 100 lb person vs a 200 lb person will always be in favor of the 200 lb person no matter what the training level is.
You are trying to hard to make this some abstract "master of the hidden palm 99 ballsacks" vs a 300 lb man child.
The smaller the person the less damage they can deal and the less damage they can take.
You will never be able to find an example of a 130 pound trained dude who could win against a 200 lb dude.

>>91570768

No I can't that ridicu

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>>91564533
People underestimate how strong Scotsman's sword is. In seasons of death, we see a tribe of trolls go through possibly the most elaborate forging and enchanting process even put on screen to make a sword so powerful, only the strongest among them could wield it, and jack's sword cleaves right through it.
Scotsman's claymore however, goes up against it without a scratch. Where the fuck did he get that thing?

>>91572176
Simple, his culture is more refined than theirs and his God is real unlike theirs from what we know. Therefore, the same magic that made Jack's sword is around the same that's used in the Scottsman's. So you can expect some holy durability from it.

>>91572176

It probably helps if you don't make your sword out of ice.

>>91572176
never underestimate a durid

>>91570928

Bullshit. A 200lbs man-muffin isn't going to do shit against a 130lbs musclehead. You're putting more emphasis on size than is realistic. If we're talking equal muscle ratios, you're absolutely right, but we never made that distinction.

>>91570928
Hold up a second. You take 130 lb mma fighter and put him up against a 200 lb regular Joe the mma fighter should win 9/10. Now if the 200 lb dude has even the most basic of fight training the odds would probably swing 180 or at least be 50/50.

>>91573746
Idk man in highschool I started wrestling as that 220 lb man muffin and had little to no experience and the 145 lb seniors with 8 years exp would still lose to me after my first week of training.

>>91570489
Jesus Christ he looks like a stingray

>>91574030
You think wrestling is fighting?
jesus are you dumb.

>>91570928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itzazKOhk94

Stream link?

>>91570295
>The only time the smaller guy has a chance is when you either get rid of all rules or you have enough rules that pull to a smaller persons favor.

Plenty of smaller guys win in MMA all the time.

Sure, a featherweight going up against a heavyweight would be at a huge disadvantage, but one weight class apart isn't that different.

>>91573269
I don't think you can forge ice in dragonfire.

>>91574030

Wrestling, striking, and street fighting are completely different animals. A weight advantage means far more when grappling and wrestling than in an open fight. The small musclehead's advantage is going to be striking, and they will avoid wrestling at all cost. One of my best buddies is a 5'7" Bruce Lee esque build, and he would always destroy our 6'2" muscle mountain friend in sparring sessions. He would dance around him, wear him out, and the big guy would be panting and defenseless.

Also, bro, you were probably stronger than you realize. Real muffin men are like baby-soft.

Anyway, my anecdote is definitely the exception, but that exceptions exist is very much worth noting.

What was the stream?

>Some random blue guy beat Jack
>Jack trained for 10 quadrillion eons
>Blue guy has an MBA in accounting

Gendy is a hack. What can you say?

>>91564533
What's more effective? Training for decades in every fighting style, or training for decades in ONE fighting style and becoming the absolute master of it?

>>91569293
What

>>91574414

Way too open-ended for a meaningfully short answer. If the basics of multiple styles give you the counters to one mastered style, then the premise becomes much more complicated. And surely a master will have counter-counters, but the all-arounder's training could still adequately account for those.

We need more factors between the two, particularly the specifics of their styles if all else is equal.

Lots of people are a match for Jack. Jack is as OP or as down-to-earth as the plot demands.

>>91567465
That means a lot more if you are a human in Aku-future. Specifically, one who defies Aku.

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>>91567680
>>91567801
SHE'S SO BEAUTIFUL THAT SHE MAKES ANGELS TELL JACK TO KILL HIMSELF

>>91570928
This has already happened in mma plenty of times. Go watch some fights in pride or any of Fedor's earlier fights. Or the first UFC lol.

>>91564533
There is this episode where a race of snow orks make their own magic sword and you get to see them forging it and then they beat each other until the strongest one earns his claim to it and he challenges jack and loses instantly
There is a reason why other characters lose to jack and that's the best part of the show, sure most of them are either robots or just mercenaries who are probably not trained well enough and not willing to die for aku
The Scotsman is good at what he does, we don't know why, he may have trained every bit as hard as jack, he may have gotten superb training, he may have amazing warrior DNA since he is part of a human tribe who survived aku and we know that's hard as balls, it goes to show that you are never truly the best at what you do

>>91570295
Size is an advantage, yes. But weight classes exist in competitive fighting, where generally BOTH FIGHTERS are skilled and have trained hard in their chosen style. That's not an example of "skill doesn't matter" because THE BIG GUY IS SKILLED TOO.

Plus there will always be a "heavyweight" class with no upper limit, and that class does not in fact get automatically dominated by the biggest guy.

when is the next episode?

>>91568523
If it's a fist fight sure
Your average street rat knows eenough about handling a knife to stab you somewhere it will take 40 seconds to kill you

>>91574458
>>91570489

>>91568523
>>91570295
With some martial arts like tai chi you can have old manlets throw around a heavyweight like a ragdoll.
>At the age of 60, Huang Sheng Shyan demonstrated his abilities in taijiquan by defeating Liao Kuang-Cheng, the Asian champion wrestler, 26 throws to 0 in a fund raising event in Kuching, Malaysia.

>>91564533
CELTIC MAGIC

It is time.

>>91564533
>Runes let him come back as a ghost

>>91564533
STR>DEX and Scotsman is pure STR build while jack is DEX/INT/CHA

>>91564533

>he dies when he recently gets a meme

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>>91564533
LEWDS OF HIS DAUGHTERS WHEN
I NEED THAT SCOTISH AMAZON BBW NOW PLEASE DRAW FRIENDS

>>91564533
Jack said himself that he is a great fighter. That being said its still implied Jack could beat him if he got serious.

>>91564533
CELTIC
MAGIC
LADDIE

>>91575903
5 minutes 23 hours and 6 days

I fully expect rule34 of his daughters within a couple days.

>>91578200
>couple days.
Bitch you should expect it in hours

>>91564533

The Scotsman is Jack's equal only in a swords-only, no items, final destination scenario.

>>91578200
>days
bruh, there's already stuff up check the booru

>>91566998
Holy shit.

>>91578372
link the booru please

>>91577894
>recently
what hole you living in

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Scotsman is the Deadpool to Jack's Taskmaster

Jack is a traditional hero, who trained his whole life to have unmatched skills.

Scotsman is simply so wild and unpredictable that no amount of skill could prepare for him.

Remember, the most dangerous foe in a ring, is an untrained fighter. You never know what they may do.

>>91579144
>>91579144
>>91579144
NEW THREAD
NOT A STICKY ANYMORE
>>91579144
>>91579144
>>91579144
>>91579144
>>91579144
>>91579144

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>taking a gag character serious

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>>91564533

>>91568795
No he has a superhuman body. Peak human in samurai jack means you can survive and do shit thats considered superhuman. Like jumping good.

Reminder: He jumped good with a boulder on his back. Jack is beyond human at this point.

>>91566998
Fist Mace is best weapon

>>91579325
LINK TO LEWDS PLEASE
I don't know the borru link

>>91579325
Oh fuck I wonder how they smell after battle.

>>91564533
Celtic Magic

>>91572176

Celts>Nords

>>91578372
>says that while not providing a link
c'mon man

>>91579315
>Aku's cock is thiiiiiiiiiiiis big
>yours could never match, samurai

>>91574369
He wasn't ready yet.

>>91567680
That's a good point, he survived sex with his wife at some point which is probably just as strenuous and dangerous as most of Jack's training.

>>91564658
So the Guardian with no backstory that whooped Jack's ass is a nobody too?

>>91580172
He survives daily life with his wife, while Jack stopped training in his 20s or something.

>>91564533
To be fair the only time they fought was on the bridge, before Jack could jump good. So Jack was greatly limited in his mobility, so The scotsman was a big hunk of muscle wit ha massive fucking sword he couldn't get past.

In the episode where he saves Jack it clearly shows he's inferior to him.

Did somebody upload the full episode?

>>91568689
>I think he was as an extreme of a physical oddity
If anything he was a mental oddity, because the dude trained literally non-stop. Dude was obessed with it, he was a real life shonen protagonist, but good

>>91567493
but only jack's sword can kill aku

>>91581047
Until this episode that wasn't clear, for all we knew scotsman's sword was made by the god's too

>>91568795
>50
Isnt it 15?

>>91564533
WHERE IS THE FUCKING MEGA.

>>91581368
Look the thread with big replies.

>>91581368
THIS

>>91581368
>>91581414

you are either retarded, blind, or both.

Jack meets the Scotsman fairly early in the series. So Jack him self hasn't had much in the way of real life combat experience just yet. All he has is the training, and as anyone with any ounce of experience can tell you, training only goes so far. This isn't DBZ folks.
The Scotsman on the other hand, if we go by the stereotype he embodies, has probably been in just as many if not more fights with a lot more on the line.

It isn't hard to see how they could be equal. Hell I would have put my money on the Scotsman.

>>91580172
>at some point

He fathered about 1000 Scottish Amazon girls with the lady.

Even if you factor in triplets or twins, that's still hundreds of times that he's survived tangling with his wife.

>>91581414

>>91564533
Jack is well, a jack who sacrificed some CHA to put the extra points into his DEX.

Scotsman just dropped the bare minimum DEX needed for his blows to actually land and then dumped everything else into STR and CON.

>>91567298
Bullshit. We're here to argue.

I imagine ancient highlanders were extremely hardy, which is this basis for the scotsmans character.

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Anybody got last weeks episode in 1080p?

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>>91570928
>You will never be able to find an example of a 130 pound trained dude who could win against a 200 lb dude.

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CUTE

>>91586528
Jesus christ that was fast.
Not that I'm complaining.

>>91566998
Shit like this and the mercenaries was the best.

>>91567680
>Aggressive beast
YOU TAKE THAT BACK YOU SNOT EATIN'

>>91564658
Show, don't tell.

We don't need to know every detail of how the Scotsman became skilled; showing him being a match for Jack tells us that he is skilled.

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I missed it where can I watch?

>>91586419
This is fiction. There are plenty of fictional "david kills goliath" stories, but in real life weight divisions are a big deal. Bruce Lee couldn't actually beat a heavyweight boxer. His attacks wouldn't hurt and he'd get fucking destroyed in one punch.

>>91564681

Uh? You'd think Batman's cowl would protect him from being choked or even worse garrote'd to dead by random goons hiding in corners

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>>91564560
>Le knife and scar-tally-whacker man

Fuck him, posting the only serial killer Batman has fought who actually acts halfway like a real one.

He's a guy with a very small caliber pistol, silenced by a RUBBER NEEEEPLE

>>91564666
What

>>91585872
I don't know what show this is but the porn was good

>>91587374
you dofus

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>>91577924
Jackkkkk

>>91588540
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoiiiiiice

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>>91564697

Said Batgirl was a better fighter than literally goddamn everybody and was one of the only people to take down Shiva back when it actually meant something

>>91588540
aw yisss

>>91588540
God's work sir, God's work

>>91564533
HE'S BLODDY SCOTISH

>>91572176
What if they reforge the Scottsman's sword into a stronger Katana that can fight Aku? Forged by multiple gods, magical, soul of a warrior. All the requirements are met.

Jack gets a talking sword that acts as a comic relief out of it. The Scottsman was Jack's only friend pretty much, so it'd make sense that he snaps Jack out of it whenever Jack goes through his PTSD bullshit

>>91589188
159 vs 600

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VcEf-gugpg

>>91564697
Cass is a minor metahuman, she can literally dodge bullets

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>>91570928
>You will never be able to find an example of a 130 pound trained dude who could win against a 200 lb dude.

>>91589211
You rolled digits twice.

Look at what I posted.
>>91589208

can someone link me new episode dl please

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>>91589222
>>91589208
I love Minowaman. He's crazy.

>>91589208
This man looks like he needs medical attention

>>91579510
Like horses, anon. Like horses.

>>91577924
13 miles from where? I need to breed with this amazonian.

>>91585872
fucking yeah they do.
look for it you lazy shitbird

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Anyone else felt like Jack's face after he thought all of those children died and he couldn't save them was fucking terrifying?

>>91564666
Aku pls

>>91580172
Not just "at some point" seeing how he he's leading a literal army of his own daughters around.

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>now the Scotsman can just haunt Aku and yell insults at him whenever he wants and Aku can do fuck all about it

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>>91570489
Dude looks like he can outswim michael phelps by 10 second.

>>91564533
Depends on how you gauge if someone is a nobody. Wasn't there a prize for Scotsman's head? The dude basically goes around playing his bagpipes and never giving a fuck, you have to be quite a fucking beast to do that and not get killed, especially if everyone is looking for you and you're basically known for your bagpipe playing.

Scotsman might've been a nobody for all we know, we he sure was a beast when it came to fighting, just a different kind of beast than Jack, who learned all kinds of shit, with Scotsman apparently not giving a fuck and just winning with brute guts.

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>>91587218

I think this is true about everyone except Bruce Lee. He was an anomaly bordering on superhuman. His body wasn't normal.

>>91590157
Frenchanon gtfo to /int/

>>91564533
The Scotsman goes blow to blow with Jack for a day and a night until both collapse from exhaustion. In swordplay, at least, the Scotsman seems to be as good as Jack.

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>>91587218
>>91590183

>James DeMile: I never get tired of reflecting on my time with Bruce because there were only a few of us who have the memories that are part of his Legacy. I was a heavyweight boxer in the Air Force. Over a four year period I had over a hundred fights and never lost one. I had a very big ego and perceived myself as the toughtest man alive. I was 5ft 10inches and weighted 225. I could knock a man out with either hand. Then I met a small 135 lb 5 ft 7 kid who believed his martial arts could beat anyone. I decided to explain the reality of fighting to him and proceded to show him what street fighting was all about. Needless to say I learned humility in about 5 seconds. He not only stopped me cold, but tied me up in such a way that he could hit me at will and the only thing I could do about it was... nothing. Later I reviewed all my previous skills, including boxing and threw all of it out as it was impractical against Bruce's skills.'

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>>91568031
>In terms of stamina, they are both equal
Then come get me

>>91566998
As cool as he was, it was kind of a shame how quickly this guy went down. I liked his style and all the build-up.

>>91590183
>>91590321

My favorite thing about these stories about Buce's awesome feats is how there is no video evidence of any of them being true, not even a single one of him actually fighting someone. Face it lads, he is was just a actor trying to hype himself, something like a more down to Earth but equally delusional Steven Seagal

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>>91564533

>>91590418
Jack was also pretty tired during this scene.

>>91590321
>I had a very big ego and perceived myself as the toughtest man alive.
>I was 5ft 10inches

>>91579450
But jumping good is something he's shown to no-longer be able to do.

If he could jump good still he wouldn't of been freaking out about the jellyfish not taking him literally all the way to the top of the giant beast. Sure, he jumped out in the end but that was just a regular jump.

>>91591016
Well you can't jump well on a jellyfish, it's too soft.

>>91590453
Can you prove that this didn't happen?

>>91587192
Kisscartoon

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>>91577924
something for the holiday

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>>91564533
why do we keep getting samurai jack thread by retards

>>91592393
Samurai_jack_leaning_back_into_rocket's_chair_with_pained_expression.jpg

>>91564533
Narrow Battlefield that severely impaired Jack's superior mobility

MAJICK
RHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNES

>>91592832
L A D D I E