Animated characters better then there comic counterparts.

>then there

>>91455406
Static

>>91455406
Most of them.

The way that Big 2 comics are written is retarded. At least some in cartoon you have consistency.

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>>91457364
EMH Carol is perfection right down to the voice

The Joker

Most of the animated characters are allowed to have an ending. Comic book characters go around in circles.

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>>91455406
Animated characters usually have the benefit of consistency, so if you have good talent working the show, then the odds are almost always going to be in favor of the TV series.

Parasite

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>>91455406
I loved this version of Toyman,so fucking creepy
>>91457289
Same thing here,so fucking scary,his teeth are his creepiest feature by far.

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>>91457289
Canon now.

>>91457289
one of the few characters to benefit from their redesign

I liked Cyborg in Teen Titans but I hear he wasn't really that well liked in the comics at some point.

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>>91458622
It's only recently that people have started to actively hate him and it's only because he's being pushed so hard.

In the cartoon he's a very comedic character, but that's in line with the show's general more comedic tone.

In the original New Teen Titans he was fairly serious, which makes sense considering his life just got completely fucked by his accident. He was a tragic character that dealt somewhat lightly with transhumanism. However this was before computers were prevalent, before the internet was really a thing at all for households and before robotics in humans were anything more than science-fiction, so that aspect of the character didn't age very well. He was basically just gritty Inspector Gadget.

Like Raven, because he was never that popular on the team he didn't get much development or attention. The New 52 was used to just totally reboot the character and bring him up to speed with modern technology. His two ongoings in the past few years have been pretty good, but not good enough to get people reading.

He's on the JLA now for pretty transparently shallow reasons, and some people have reacted very negatively to this.

The cartoon version is held in high regard because, unfortunately, people confuse stoicness/seriousness with lack of character, and the show added the kind of funny almost frat boy-ish aspect to the character, while admirably still keeping the serious aspect of the character when it's called for. Not that this is bad, just this is why people often say he had no personality in the comics despite that not really being true.

And this comedic aspect doesn't really fit with the way the JLA is portrayed so in the comics it's still not there, which adds to the distaste some have for him.

Meanwhile, on TTGO he's some kind of bizarre psychopath, even moreso than the other characters, which really weirds me out.

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>>91455406
Can anyone top this? No.

>>91455406
This is one of the best versions of Toyman. I wish they could just sit down and figure this character out in the comics, so they can actually be cool again. Post-Infinite Crisis Toyman was good. I'm not sure why they did away with that version of the character.

>>91459418
That's a real interesting past that kind of makes me appreciate the character more. Thanks for the info.

>>91455406
A good chunk of the Batman galleries actually, TAS interpretation was so good that many were transplanted back to the comics.

Mr. Freeze was a literal who before TAS.

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>When the cartoon version is so good it becomes comic canon
>>91457445
I'm surprised they never tried to bring this version of Jinx to the comics, not counting ones directly based on the show, considering her popularity.

>>91459468
The little guy who was basically Lex's Igor? I liked that duo.

>Lex rips out Metallo's Kryptonite heart
>Toyman: Wow, the blood makes it look even prettier!

>>91459418
How? Robin is the sociopath on that show. Cyborg often is a capable voice of reason when Raven can't or won't take that role

>>91459861
I mean I don't watch it much, but from what I remember Cyborg is just constantly smiling and yelling and excited about everything, whereas in the old show he would get pissed a lot.

By "psycho" I just mean a fucking weirdo. Robin was definitely some kind of sadistic asshole.

>>91459812
That was probably the best version of Toyman anywhere within the past 10 years or so, aside from Alex Ross' Justice. He was like the DCAU version, but I think younger and an actual robot, which, to be fair, I didn't like that part. Still great though.

And that one episode of Justice League Action proved that he can still be a fun villain. Someone just needs to do something cool with him.

>>91458032
Awesome!

>>91460027
He wasn't a robot, but he usually had a robot body double standing in for him so he couldn't get caught or hurt.

The one in Justice League Action is basically just a slightly retooled, evil version of the Hiro Toyman, who I guess is more modern because he's bideo games instead of toys.

>>91459726

I think the style is too anime so most comic artists. It's a shame in some sense but I remember how they re-created some of the Teen Titans and I'm thinking is't really a close call.

>>91455406
Every single non-main and background character from the prequel trilogy.

>>91458032
Not always though.

Most people still use the shitty bag on head scarecrow.

But now most all versions give him the noose on his neck.

>>91459669
You can't read, anon? >>91458622

>>91460323
You may want to rewrite that in English.

>>91457364
Everything but the costume. Say what you will, but I do actually prefer her modern costume (minus the haircut).

>>91457386
Reminder that Jen Hale is the only VA to have voiced both Carol Danvers and Carol Ferris. Every blonde, battle-hardened space lady must have her voice.

>>91459452
Bahaha, nobody has even mentioned Terra so far. Everyone knows she's the queen of this trope.

>>91461275
>nobody has even mentioned Terra so far
But... they did. You literally responded to someone who mentioned her.

>>91461534
That was my own post you dingus.

>>91461576
So, then... YOU mentioned her. Isn't that even more asinine to point out?

>>91457289

I liked how they tried to remake this design in Arkham Knight but you lose so much of the creepy abstraction when you actually model it.

What fucks me up about this Scarecrow look is the way his facial features just seem to float in nothingness, like a broken jigsaw puzzle.

>>91461646
I'm saying that nobody has dared to step up to my challenge. Do I really have to spell it out for you?

>>91461693
>Hurr Hurr I was only pretending to be retarded

What's your problem man? No one paid attention to your shitty comment and you gotta bump it for no reason.

>>91461841
I bump whatever the fuck I want to. You're not a mod so fuck off.

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TAS literally created the Venom everybody likes
ask anybody on the streets what Venoms origin is and they will likely recite the Symbiote ark from TAS

>>91461866
You rustled mate?

>>91461901
you know what, you're right
the original symbiote ark is utter shit.
this one is way better written.

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>>91457364
I dunno

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>>91461936
im suprised Marvel hasnt pulled a Dr Freeze yet and made TAS origin canon
Eddie has much more reason to go after Spidey there

>>91461901
Most people would recite spider-man 3 unfortunately

>>91457289
Whats the best choice for any given Scarecrow design, hat, gas mask, zombie face, hood, or just regular bag head? Noose is always a good choice

>>91462073
Spider-man 3 was based on TAS, raimi himself admitted taking inspiration from that

>>91457289

Based Mignola

>>91461901
The origin story at least. Venom's been about the same in every incarnation minus his origin since it's hard to fuck up a guy who just fucking hates Spider-Man. I can definitely agree that the symbiote coming from the moon is absolutely better than his actual battle world backstory though.

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probably an unpopular opinion but the character post getting godlike powers became interesting, wish he appeared in more episodes tho

>>91464681
>probably an unpopular opinion
Is it really? DCAU is the only canon where Amazo was actually a character worth caring about in my opinion.

>>91464681
The problem is there's not really anything to do with him after he gets maximum power. He works in JLU because he only appears twice. And the first time he's not really any different from comics Amazo except for his character arc.

He's basically just Superman One Million anyway.

>>91464878
Because Amazo isn't a character. He's like Doomsday or Shaggy Man. He's just a simple threat that the JLA has to be creative to defeat.

>>91461866
Reported, enjoy you're swift ban and I'll see you back on le Reddit. :^D

>>91457289
2spooky4me

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>>91457364
Carol is an emergency medical hologram?

>>91459452
>implying
Judas Contract works better because she's an irredeemable, terrible person.

>>91457289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owaMoWmD2vE

>>91465199
4chan rule 7 says:
>Replying to a thread stating that you've reported or "saged" it, or another post, is also not allowed.

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>>91455406
Based Timm Toyman never met his OTP....

>>91465396
Judas Contract is fucking awful. At least the show made her an actual character rather then a walking plot device.

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The best interpretation of old retired Bruce.

>>91465349
I was thinking about how Robert Picardo was a good choice for Amazo.
>>91464681
and there he is.

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>>91455406
You know it's true.

>>91457289
Easily the best version of the Scarecrow.
Jeffrey Combs was fantastic in the role

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>>91459726
They should try mixing both of her designs, i mean they made the current raven look a bit like in the tv series while mantaining the n52 look

>>91457445
Wouldn't work considering TTGO Jinx is an algamation of Jinx and Shimmer

>>91461936
>>91461901

Symbiote ark, maybe, but Secret War, the original, was great.

>>91465728
>OTP
Please, Toyman looks like the type to diddle kids, which is part of why he was so creepy.

Pairing him with Baby Doll just would have made it more obvious.

>>91467803
It really helps that he's not a murder machine

>>91459726
it'd be so easy too. Have the current comic jinx take a metahuman apprentice under her wing with similar probability manipulating powers. Could make for a cute legacy sort of thing and maintain both characters' respective personalities. I'm a sucker for adorable witches doing witchy things

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>>91469231
Baby Doll did have a weird sort of ironic infantilism fetish despite hating her condition.

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His comic version isn't bad either, but it's vastly different. I imagine his change came from them not wanting to re-do Rorschach, which was inspired by the question.

I also like the fact that he's an alien conspiracy nut when he's literally standing in a room with a well known alien.

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>>91469629
Sort if like Zatanna and Misty?

>>91465944
It's fine, I guess. Still doesn't make sense that he would be completely fucking alone and miserable. I get that the show was about him moving on from that and rebuilding relationships but there was just an obscene amount of regression in his character that just seems like a stretch

>>91469977
exactly

>>91461901
Hardly anyone even remembers the old origin.

>>91470074
A lot of it could be explained by paranoia about being found out as Batman. That heart attack he had probably put a lot of fear into him.

>>91461936
He was just made because Todd McFarlane, and company wanted to have a cool looking character who hated Spiderman. It barely was an Arc they just retconned a bunch of shit.

>>91465728
>Great going...Winslow!
>I told you to stop calling me that!

>>91465017
i only said it because i never read the comic but the other amazo looked lame and had a boring history

>>91461194
Agree with with you on her modern suit and about Commander Shepard voicing Carol

>>91469966
JLU Question is good, but I disagree with him being better than the comic book version(s).

>>91465728
does Toyman like girls' toys, tho?

>>91470120
It's a real shame DC will likely never bring her back. I wanted to see her come back a bit older and with more noticeable sheeda features like scary tendril hair.

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>>91461680
I really don't see how the designs are related.

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>>91472165
>does Toyman like girls' toys, tho?
What do you think?

>>91469966
As much as I enjoy Zen Question from Denny O'Neill's run, I would love to see Mulder Question interact with the rest of the DCU in comics.

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Jason Macendale is such a shitty villain the show had to borrow Kingsley's personality to make him feel like a threat.

>>91469720
Was she even in the comics?

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>>91465728
Is it weird that I think this totally works? Im shocked no one has thought of this before

>>91469966
It fucking blows my mind that character was played by Jeffery Combs.

>>91473529
She was in the comics and Beast Boy killed her

>>91459726
On note with the pic I was actually really fond of Mr. Freeze's character design in Batman Beyond

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft6mNPeqa6Y

>>91473424
Most of the spidey 90s legacy villains were terrible, remember lady ock?

>>91469977
>>91472698
If I ever get to write Zatanna one day, I'm going to try my hardest to bring her back. I promise, anon.

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What animated series had a comic writer deliberately remake or improve a character from the source material they had a hand in creating/popularizing?

The only one I can think of is Peter Laird with the original Mirage TMNT characters when making the 4kids series. Other than that, it's often the other way around, with the animated series influencing the comics.

>>91475396
Those are some very slim womanly legs on Robotman.

>>91476909
Godspeed anon. Or rather, Deepsdog.

>>91477880
What was general consensus on that series anyway? I found it boring and way too grounded. Didn't stick around for more than a handful of episodes.

>>91478600
>What was general consensus on that series anyway?
Fantastic and one of the best action cartoons of the early 2000s.
>>91478600
>I found it boring and way too grounded. Didn't stick around for more than a handful of episodes.
That's a shame. And odd, since the show is often complimented on how to starts off subtle and grounded while still elevating to weird scenarios. How much is "a handful of episodes?"

>>91461901
>TAS literally created the Venom everybody likes
I'm not sure how true that is. I vividly remember the entire reason I watched that show was because Venom was in the intro, and I already liked Venom, so I kept waiting for him to appear. And yes, this was back when the show was brand new, and I was a very young child at the time.

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fuck you I like it

>>91478600
It's the most faithful show to the original comics, while still doing its own thing, and also being kid-friendly (something the original comics quite often weren't). The general consensus really depends on who you ask, but it does have a sizeable cult following.

As for it being "too grounded", you obviously didn't stick around for long. It goes into sci-fi and mystical territories later on, just like the comics. It only starts off grounded to not overwhelm you, but it does gradually go really off the rails in terms of stuff that's weird or larger than life.

>>91461066
oh no he posted an image of a character already mentioned call the police

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>>91457445
post yfw she loses control of her powers during sex so no matter how many precautions you take she'll always get pregnant.

>>91478661
I think soon after they brought in Casey. Something about the show just didn't feel fun for me, like it was going through the motions. What episodes should i try to revisit on?

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>>91478826
They handled Clayface really well, it was surprising and tragic.

>>91467803
I like how he how actually demonstrates anger and fear in tas and doesn't magically beat everything with the power of "insanity" which renders everyone else incompetent like in the more recent appearances of Joker.
I will always think this version is the most funny.

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Outrageous!

>>91479055
If Batman Beyond Return of The Joker is anything to go by, he's also scarier than most "scary" versions he has (see Snyder's run as an example)

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"Mad? All the best people are mad!"

>>91467803
How is this at ALL controversial? DCAU Joker hits all the right notes.

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>>91455406
Oh boy, it's a "MUH DCAU" thread. I wonder if it will be filled with nostalgiafagging casuals who have never read a comic beyond the pages they get outraged over seeing on Tumblr, or if it will somehow be different than literally every other incarnation of this topic.

>>91479225
Well, ledgerfags might throw a fit if they see someone as much as imply that Ledger wasn't best Joker (or fictional villain in general) ever

>>91462106
The Gas mask makes no sense, considering he's supposed to be immune to his gas.

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>>91457289
Why is it that every other media version of Scarecrow is better than the comic counterpart?

>>91478828
Remember the time they went to the future for a new series? That was a mess, if I remember. Last time I watched it was when it was originally airing.

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>>91473424
This show had a lot of best versions of characters

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>>91479878
And much, much more controversially, I'm gonna say this.

Comics Norman has a lot of great moments, but TAS's more sympathetic approach makes him a much more dynamic, interesting, and engaging character.

>>91479887
Well, that's kind of how it was like in the comics.
I mean, he was a scumbag businessman but he did care about Harry. It's too bad he's a second-rate Joker these days.

>>91469966
The DCU Question was clearly playing up the "insane conspiracy nut" angle to distance himself from others and make himself seem weirder /more incompetent than he actually was.

Also, his conspiracies were not only absolutely right in places, they didn't even go far enough in others. Remember that great line about how much power Lex'd have to give up to be President?

>>91479887

This show is the reason I assumed Hobgoblin came before Green Goblin in the comics.

>>91481377
The way the show justified it was really clever too, it ended up making more sense I feel like.