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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7A jGmmCbFc does he have a

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7AjGmmCbFc

does he have a point /co/? Should the Joker be more Jokey?
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>>91371586
Did you say Grandma Brownies Chocolate Chunker Wunker Bunkers; now with even bigger chunks of chocolate chunks?
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Somebody please get this guy a writer.
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Joker should be batman opposite, he should be a murderous justice hating monster who takes nothing serious and jokes about everything, laughing at his own shitty jokes.
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This isn't a picture of Bendis?
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>>91374128
Surprisingly no
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>>91371586
I love Max, but he's totally wrong here. It's possible for a character to be funny while also being deep. The Joker isn't just popular because he's funny, it's also because we can all relate to him. In his best incarnations, e's someone who realizes how pointless and horrible everything is, so he just wants to laugh at the world and fuck with people. Joe Dante was originally supposed to direct a Batman movie, but he rejected it because he sympathized with the Joker more than he did Batman. Which makes sense, since this is the guy behind Gremlins, and the villains in Gremlins are basically just feral Jokers.
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>>91371586
I don't think he is obliged to be Jokey.

The reason why Jared Leto's version of the Joker sucked so much is that it panders to the lowest common denominators of people who think that him being "Le wacky but crazy villain XD" is what makes him interesting, but in reality it's just much dumber. Like the Mad Hatter in Tim Burton's Alice In Wonderland movies.

But that doesn't mean that the Joker can't be subject of various interpretations.
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>>91371586
At least he and I agree on Heath Ledger's Joker.

Good performance, terrible Joker.
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>>91373615

There are a lot of "funny" types, but people always tend to go for the same ones. I think pic related's style would make an interesting run.
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>>91373047
Man, people have been saying this since is newgrounds time. When will he learn?
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Heath Ledger's joker made tons of funny jokes

1. Killing Bus driver near beginning of movie
2. Hospital blow up scene killed me
3. Him dressing as nurse
4. Pencil disappear trick
5. Grenade threat

Just off the top of my head. Dude was a funny Joker man.
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>>91378679
Him making a pile of money and him igniting his half of the money, the bottom half, struck me as hilarious.
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>>91378719
Oh fuck, was that the fucking joke? I thought he had a separate, big fucking pile for the other half that was off-screen.
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>>91374466
>we can all relate to him
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I would lay my pipe into BB, would you /co/?
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>>91374466
>Gremlins are basically just feral Jokers
Huh. Never saw it that way before but you're totally right. Now I wanna rewatch these two films.
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What I got from this is that Hamill's Joker is the best Joker.

I can agree with that.
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>>91371586
Why do I find this character design so sexy hnnngggg

Fuck sexy skinheads
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>>91374489
This. In the comics he started off as a serial killer that looked like a clown and has gone through multiple interpretations since.
Even in the films you have the mostly joke-based Joker (Jack Nicholson's take) the funny-but-still-scary Joker (Heath Ledger's take) and even a modern-gangster/mob-boss-who's-also-crazy Joker (Jared Leto's take, maybe with some inspiration from the "art" based Jokers or the DKR Joker).
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>>91374466
>we can all relate to him

what
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>>91378679
Also
>"Excuse me, I want to drive!"
There was lots of physical humor in his performance too, like the way he exits the mob meeting, emptying a champagne glass only to pretend to drink from it, that "Not sure if serious..." face he gives the guy who stands up to him at the party, mocking the henchman who got electrocuted by Batman's cowl... he's funny in an offbeat, kinda dark way.

I don't get /co/'s fixation NO HE'S GOTS TO BE HILARIOUS ALL THE TIMES because I never really found The Joker genuinely funny. Even as a kid, I thought the whole point was that his old jokes and obvious puns were unfunny, and you'd have to be insane to laugh at them.
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>>91379844
It depends. There were times where he'd sort of cross the line twice or get put into a situation that actually was funny. Arkham Knight in particular does that sort of thing.
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>>91378719
>>91378679
he screwed over those mafia goons pretty good
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>>91379204
he isn't even a skinhead
u fag
but still i agree HNNNNGNGNGGGN
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>>91379391
How would you compare the DCAU Hamill Joker to those?
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>>91378875
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>>91380133
In my mind, he's probably closest to Jack Nicholson's take: He's clearly styled after it, lacks the nihilism of Ledger Joker and still does over the top schemes or does schemes for petty reasons.
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>>91378679
>hospital explosion scene

The best thing about that was that the last explosion didn't go off like it should have, so everything after the bomb finally explodes is a genuine reaction Ledger had
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>>91371586
The Joker makes joked but he doesn't have to be funny. Some Jokers can be very funny, but what's more important is that Joker makes jokes, plans them, sets them up, some work and some don't.

Joker wants to be funny, he doesn't have to be a tool for comedy.
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>>91379909
I haven't played that'n yet. I agree that he CAN be funny, but since the essence of comedy is subverting expectations, I don't mind when he doesn't do the more obvious schtick, i.e. spring-loaded pies, squirting flowers... like, for cartoons and stuff aimed at kids, that's fine, because it's still novel and funny to them, but after a while you EXPECT the Joker to always have an acid-squirting flower lapel or an exploding pie in his back pocket. It's predictable. Rote. Old hat.

In both the comics and DCAU, Joker has made a big deal about trying to keep his material on the razor's edge, and is quick to dismiss any idea he deems "hokey". I imagine that since there's 50+ years of him doing the more conventionally Joker-y stuff nowadays, writers and, consequently, the character are afraid of it getting old.
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