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Captain Hydra Storytime: Uncanny Avengers #25 & Captain America

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We've got a Red Skull Double-Feature today folks! The Red Skull has been captured by the Avengers, but what could Steve Rogers be planning behind the scenes. And what of all those fucking NUKES that the Red Skull has stashed away in Sokovia? Let's find out!

Storytiming Uncanny Avengers #25 and Captain America: Steve Rogers #15
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>>91295985
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God damn it, why the fuck couldn't larraz be on Weapon X, Domino & Lady Deathstrike deserve fucking better then Greg Land.
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>>91295985
Why didn't Red Skull read Hydra Caps mind yet?

I'm sure sure that's a very good reason for that, right?
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Yeah the telepathy part removed. What about the tk part?
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>>91296136
Cap dont care about you skully.
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>>91296064
Because they always want to keep Land employed and for whatever reason, Land's "fanbase" are all x-fags, so they always put him on x-books.

What book is Larraz doing after this? I don't think he's going to stick on the book for when Zub jumps on to drive it into the ground.
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>>91296079
They haven't been shown in the same room at any point. All their communications were over comms, and Steve removed himself from the Unity Squad before their mission to take the Skull down.
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Why didn't Red Skull read Hydra Caps mind?
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>>91296123
Xavier doesn't have TK.
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>>91295985
Thanks OP, I've been waiting for these
MAKE MINE MARVEL!
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>>91296224
but why
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Next issue, everyone's favorite Hollywood Hero returns! But first, HYDRA!
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Now for Captain America: Steve Rogers #15.
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>>91296188
It is the fucking Xavier's mind. Red Skull could reach Hydra!Cap's mind anywhere, at any time.
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>>91296199
He had low level and blasts. There's also more than just reading minds.
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>>91296199
>>91296214
Awwwww, that actually is kind of sweet.
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>Another "it was all part of my keikaku" issue
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>>91296256
who dat
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>>91296283
i thought even Xavier needed cerebro to read minds that far out
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>>91296381
>>Peace in our time
STOP DOING THAT SPENSER!
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KEIKAKKU
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>>91296570
I guess this version is dead. Maybe marvel will revive the actual red skull later on.

Rip redeemers clone skull.
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>>91296256
I fucking hate the rogue deadpool romance despite the build up but the Wonderman reveal is fucking gold and makes its all worth it.

And I guess I am not surprised she would go for DP. Rogue's taste in men have always been fucking lacking.

>>91296476
you casual mother fucker. He has been an avenger for 50 years or so ugh.
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>>91296585
Hail hydra
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>>91296214
Well.....
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>>91296625
never heard of him
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HAIL HYDRA
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>>91296642
Yup swerve is the real universe of prime earth had hitler winning.
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>>91296495
Why are these guys so incompetent and dumb? And why is she talking to them and not the President?
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>>91296507
...Did they forget to draw that character?
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>>91296518
>I'm loyal to nothing, Skull...except the dream
POTTERY
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>>91296570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM
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>>91296518
Based Captain Hydra with the callback
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>>91296585
>Sin and Crossbones betray the Red Skull and pledge allegiance to Steve
Damn, how things change
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>>91296657
HAIL HYDRA
Thanks for the storytimes, OP.
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So, when are we going to find out who suicide bombs the shield over Earth?
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>>91296518
>>91296570
Based Captain Hydra delivering bantz, references and death all at once
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is captain hydra the best next to the maker?
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>>91296406
>give me a bucket before I piss myself

Helmut is cranky.
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>>91296141
Let's be honest. Does Deadpool even need healthcare?
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>>91297060
He's not going to piss in the corner like an animal, Anon.
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>>91296570
Where is Rogue and Wanda to scream "You're just as bad as he is!"
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>>91296052
> rogue's little hip sway in the first panel

hnnnnnng
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>>91296214
I usually hate shipping but this is actually pretty cute
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>>91296426
>>91296616
Steve bending the knee to the Skull to protect Helmut and Elisa (really mostly Helmut) is kind of sweet.
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>>91296406
>kidnapping cap's bf

rude imo
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>>91296234
Why did she absorb Deadpool memories about GBU
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>>91296188
god this artist makes rogue look so cute
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>>91296098
A fucking mercy killing at this point.
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>>91296098
I know this sounds weird, but as much as I can't stand ANAD Marvel, there were some real feelz here.
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>>91296214
have his divorce papers with Shiklah gone through yet?
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>tfw when Uncanny Avengers got really good only to be handed over to Zub next
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>>91296141
>had to go Japan

Does Marvel even have editors?
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>>91296141


Is I am not allowed there a Marvel vs Fox joke?
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>>91296234
Wait, what's with Rogue seeing herself dead in DP's arms with Logan and Cap in the background?
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>>91296204
To Piracy!
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>>91296214
I ship it.
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>>91296141
>Wade is not allowed in Disneyland
More subtle than most.
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>>91296670
The flashbacks are just what Steve believes to be real but they're not actually real.
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>>91296500
That's cuz you probably read comics
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>>91296585
>hiding in the closet while he kills the man they were supposed to be loyal to
why is this giving me such severe deja vu?
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>>91296476
that's the Avenger's pet stand they pass around when someone needs a power boost
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>>91296393
>>91296406
Cube Girl venerates Red Skull yet creates a perfect Hydra world where he's the villain of Steve's crusade...

THIS ENTIRE FUCKING SERIES IS BASED AROUND PLOT HOLES.
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>>91296136
Skulls fucking right at this point.

How could Rogue do that, without even contacting the rest of the other mutants.

Oh right, she's a woman.
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>>91297776
Kobik loves HYDRA™, Kobik made HYDRA™ a part of Steve's life. Whatever the fuck happens to Skull is irrelevant because Skull is not HYDRA™.
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>>91296605
Look at this team
We're gonna do great and gorgon is missing his blind fold
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>>91297568
That's not Rogue. She's absorbing Wade's memories, and the most painful of which being The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
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Rogue is so adorably drawn in this book
all fluffy and cute
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>>91297643
Explain Elisa then.
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>>91296079
>>91296283

The Red Skull thinks Cap is on his side. Cap instructs the Uncanny Avengers to capture and immobilize the Red Skull. Now that the RS lost his psychic powers Cap can kill him.

Now stop shitting up every cap thread, you mongoloid.
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>>91296605
elder thing madame hydra looking fine as f u ck
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>>91295985
I pretty much thought there was no way this book could work but Duggan made contrived editorial ideas like "Deadpool joins the Avengers" and "Inhumans are important now" work pretty good. He also got most of the characters right after Remender couldn't write Rogue at all.

Now of course Zub will ruin everything. Even the cover art announces that he's going to ruin everything.
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>>91296642
>>91296628
>>91296616
So Steve, Elisa and Zemo are essentially the only remains of not-nazi/Red Skull Hydra in the past. Going by the spoilers for Secret Empire they'll probably eventually let the Allies rewrite reality out of disgust towards the Red Skull.
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>>91296518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LucQede966E
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>>91296761
Red Skull betrayed the dream.

Hydra is not about one man's petty ambition.
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>>91296649
>being this casual
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>>91297776
she's a genie, not a demiurge.
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>>91297776
It's not a plot hole. Skull asked her to make Steve Hydra but did not ask her to make Steve loyal to him. And for him to remain Steve he was never going to side with Skull.
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>>91297776

What did you expect from a omnipotent being with a mind of a ten year old who was read bedtime stories about how HYDRA were the good guys?
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>>91298083
Crossbones and Sin weren't really loyal to "the dream" or Hydra though.
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>>91297974
>Zub doesn't care about continuity or what his co-writers are doing
>Zub can't into character voices or personalities
>Zub can't into plotting or character arcs
>Zub talked about offing characters in his UA interviews
>Zub is likely gonna shit on Wanda
My god, it's Bendis 2.0
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>>91296052
just grind that shit up and toss it in the trash, how is this breain thing even an issue
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>>91296256
Hey, Simon is finally back!
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>>91296098
oh nevermind
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>>91296642
HOO BOY I sure hope Nick enjoys having fans with veterans in their families up in his mentions
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>>91296256
So threesome?
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>>91298197
Steve will make a believer out of you.
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>>91296585
HAIL HYDRA
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>>91296518
This is some good pottery
>>91296570
Goodnight sweet prince

>>91296585

Hail Hydra
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>>91298043
>Dreams Don't Die
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>>91296214
I am cool with this.
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>>91296214
As cute as this is it just reminds me of that shitty Waypool game
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>>91296098
>let's just say nobody can make Cap as angry as an X-Man

Wait is Muh Phoenix canon?
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>>91296005
>Rogue Won
Hahahaha
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>>91296141
That Deadpool rights joke was pretty good
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Good night professor s. I enjoyed your antics.
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>>91296570
>tfw you lost two brains at the same day
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That uncanny Avengers issue was nice.
>Gerry Duggan
Oh. That makes sense. His run been good so far? This is the only issue I've read.
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>>91296605
Quick. What are the Krakes Powers/Skills?
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>>91296256
I avoided this book but really enjoyed this issue, has the whole run been this solid?
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>>91296507
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>>91298762
Yeah, besides the arc in Japan, it is really okay. Atleast the best team-book of ANAD, easy.
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>>91296234
That was a realyl good book, tho!
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>>91297643
They are says my preview mag.
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>>91296518
Shiiiiiiiiiit
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>>91296518
Well, you fucked that one up, Skull.
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>>91296570
Should've been Magneto. Still, I'm just happy the fucker is dead.
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Fuck man I don't want to set myself up for disappointment but between this and based Superior Otto I'm so hype for Secret Empire
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>>91295985
All aboard the Secret Empire hype train.
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Thanks, OP.
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>>91296124

Goddamn what a beautiful page. Pepe Larraz is definitely an artist to keep an eye on. Dude's gonna make a big name for himself if he keeps this up.
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>>91298726
Kraken? He can "help people become who they're meant to be" which is the exact kind of vague bullshit that Hickman characters are famous for.

This Kraken though is probably Ian Zola-Rogers, so general combat proficiency.
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>>91298636
They really didn't do nearly enough with him and this status quo. This very last arc of Uncanny Avengers was the only one where they truly realized the potential of this idea.
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>>91299402
I was so hyped for that arc then it went to that planet x/archangel kids bullshit.
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>>91296570
Look, he's doing a swastika with his broken limbs.
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>>91299363
Spencer acually went along with it, showing that Kraken was pivotal in molding young Hydra Steve into the man he is now.
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>>91296683

Why are so incompetent and dumb? Shield is an international organization, dumbass.
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>>91298762
Yes, prob the best thing to come out of ANAD
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>>91296141
>Brevoort hospital
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>>91296585

Fucking cold, Sin.
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>>91299734
To be fair, their relationship has always been pretty strained. He is an abusive asshole that wanted a son after all.
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>>91296318
It was ME, Barry!!!
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>>91298293

Okay, I know this comes up every month, but it bears revisiting: You DO understand that what we're seeing here isn't real, even in-continuity, right? This is literally just an illusion of a memory created by the Red Skull for the benefit of one man.
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>>91299819

I dunno. I kind of felt like he'd warmed up to her in recent years.
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>>91296256
This book is better than it has any right to be. I'm sad I dropped it now, but the writer is switching soon.
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>>91298713

It's been fantastic. Easily the best Avengers we've had in quite some time.

The art on the first few issues is a bit wonky since the artist had an injured drawing-hand at the time, but if you can power through that it gets great fast.
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>>91299592
Kek
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It's amazing how Rogue has been consistently hot since I've been a kid. Usually every character gets an awful redesign
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>>91297643
At this point it's become so convoluted as to whether it's that, Kobik actually changed the past or Kobik sent Bucky to a past of her creation. They need to explain this soon though
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>>91301102
Are you implying that wearing a jacket over spandex wasn't an awful redesign?
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>>91299268
>Marvel Event
>Hype
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>>91296214
>Deadpool is being shipped with Rogue and I don't hate it

Duggan is a wizard, I swear to god
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>>91301428
Are you implying that wearing a jacket over spandex isn't the BEST design?
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>>91301777
It is anti-best.
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>>91296188
Has Larraz been on any other books? Because they can draw waifus like nobody's business.
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>>91296214
Well that's something.

>>91298507
First thing on my mind.
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>>91296214
>>91296224
I... I... I approve this.
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>>91296657
I wasn't considering Secret Empire something to read before, but now I'm really looking forward to it.
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>>91296570
So how long before Zola clones him again?
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>>91296256
Oh, hey! Look at that! What the actual fuck?
Also, get bent, Wonder Man. We were having a comfy time.
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>>91296500
you are correct
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>>91296124
>>91296214

Both absolutely gorgeous. Larraz is fucking talented.
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>>91301737
I'll take "something I never saw coming as both a Deadpool (long-term) and Rogue (somewhat casual) fan" for 1000, Alex.
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>>91301215
Why does Kobik cosplay as Hatsune Miku?

Why?
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>>91296214

New OTP.

Can't wait to see how this plays out in the pages of Deadpool's solo book.
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>>91297568

That's the mother of Wade's daughter, whom he found dead in a North Korean concentration camp. A camp she was brought to specifically to bait Wade. One of the most horrible moments in his life was discovering her dead there, knowing that it was because of his involvement in her life, and that there was every chance his daughter was somewhere in that pit of corpses too.
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>>91302680
Colorist also has a role in it looking good.
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>>91297210
asking the important questions here!
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>>91296214
Fuck. Yes.

I can't believe Duggan actually went for the OTP.
He even has gone on record that he didn't intend their trust/friendship evolve the way it did when he started on the book.

Hopefully this isn't written off as a one night stand. Both of them deserve a win after all the shit they've gone through since ANADA started up.
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>>91298762
Absolutely!
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>>91296124
I half expected Xaviers face in the clouds.
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yeah marvel, keep shitting up Captain America
sjw cunts
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>>91297513
Wait is this actually happening? Please no. The very existence of the thunderbolts book makes me quake with rage
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>>91305062
t. tumblr-falseflag
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>>91305062
Captain Hydra has nothing to do with your sjw boogeyman. Go over to the Champions or the America storytimes to complain.
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>>91305071
Anon, Zub is getting Uncanny Avengers. His first issue is in June.>>91297974 is the sketch of a cover for it.
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>>91296067
>dat lip bite
Rouge wants Cap to try something
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>>91296224
>Oh no, he's hot!
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>>91298636

Red Skull using his brain never made sense.

It's due to your x-gene that you get powers, not your organs.
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>>91296518
BASED
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>>91305721
Xavier's brain has the X-Gene, organs have genes.
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>>91296642
So is the big plot twist that the Allies altered reality and that Kobik just restored Steve to what he originally was?
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>>91297798
no, she's just Rogue
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>>91305824
Yes, Rich Johnston already spoiled it.
Though odds are it'll turn out to be what Steve believes and not actually true.
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>>91305721

Tell that to the U-Men.
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>>91305824
In Thunderbolts, Kobik made it pretty clear that that history is the one that Kobik created. So basically Kobik altered history so that the "Steve was always Hydra" timeline was the original, then at the end of the war the allies used a cosmic cube to create 616. Then she "restored"

This is why Elisa exists in 616. She was created when Kobik altered history, but Kobik made it so the altered history was itself undone via the cosmic cube.

So order of events:
>Marvel-616 is the real 616
>Kobik alters history to make it Hydra-616
>at the end of WWII, the allies of Hydra-616 use a cosmic cube to create make it Marvel-616 again (but because this reality warp was done overtop of the Hydra-616 reality warp, things like Elisa's existence, who was an OC of Hydra-616, still existed)
>Kobik restores Steve's memory of Hydra-616
So right now, we're in Marvel-616-2 which is layered ontop of Hydra-616 which is layered ontop of Marvel-616.

Marvel-616 is the "original" before Kobik's tampering, but the current Marvel-616 isn't the original, it's one created by the Allies. So the whole thing is cyclical. In the end, outside of Elisa and Steve, there's no difference and it doesn't really matter. From STEVE'S perspective, everything is fucked, but that's because Kobik restored Hydra Steve's memories from a version of 616 that happened "between" the original and the current one.
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>>91296605
It must be weird for these guys who've been trying to kill Steve Rogers for years suddenly having him not only on heir side but as their leader.
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>>91296605
>Gorgon isn't wearing his mask

That seems like a mistake considering his powers
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>>91296158
> Those souvenirs from the Hand arc

this really was a nice book.
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>>91306688
>A statue of Hank
Pymtron's gonna be pissed
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>>91306673
At least he has his eyes closed.
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>>91306729
I thought the artist just had him squinting like a chink
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>>91306283
Don't forget that the multiverse has been undone and rebuilt no less than 8 times, with there being more for localized universe/dimension/worlds.
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>>91298771
That looks like Roberto from Futurama.
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>>91306283
Nope. Earth prime always was hitlers world until cube changed it.
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>>91296224
So this is why he looks clean in Deadpool x Spider-Man?
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>>91296170

Where is Pietro? Also what happened to that subplot about him liking Synapse? I guess it was dropped so that we could get even MORE Deadpool-wank. Duggan really worships him, doesn't he?
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>>91308034
He got bored and left.
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>>91308034
I guess he ran to Disneyland by himself
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>>91307005
Then Elisa Sinclair wouldn't exist, since she was retconned into existance to help Cap fulfill his destiny as the supreme Hydra
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>>91296031
I'd keep that helmet on. fucking wasp
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How old is Rogou?
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>>91296158
thought his skin was back to normal
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>>91296214
How will Shiklah react?
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>>91296411
Steve "LightStar" Rodgers is the best
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>>91308925
She's in a "Kill All Humans" mood already
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>>91296742
nice

gotta say I was weary on Hydra Cap, but I'm liking him more and more and more
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>>91296256
>Zub soon
Why
This has been so comy
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>>91296158
This is nice.
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So is Hydra cap worth reading or is it just a clusterfuck of confusion?
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>>91296031
>beast performing brain surgery and leaving all those blue hairs inside your head

poor red skull
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>>91296052
>inter xavier

is that meant to say intern?
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>>91296224
holy fucking shit Deadpool looks so fucking canadian there
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>>91296585
Were Sin and Crossbones' minds/memories changed by Kubik, too?

Neither of them were ever loyal to Hydra - they were always personally loyal to the Red Skull.
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>>91308302
No, she is supposed to be part of the universe.

Kobik didnt change caps mind, swerve..she unlocked his real memories and the memories of the real universe.
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>>91310447

The fuck is this? Is that Wasp?
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>>91296570
F
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>>91310902
Steve is extremely charismatic. Likewise, Crossbones is just a mercenary and Sin's relationship with her dad was always pretty strained given how abusive the relationship was.
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>>91311147
Yeah in the Deadpool Secret Wars mini he was fucking Wasp

She was kind of a slut on the original Battleworld wasn't she?
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>>91310643
One of Marvel's best currently running comics. No one man should have all that KEIKAKKU.
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>>91296518
FUCKING

BASED
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>>91310886
Well... yeah?
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>>91311189
>Crossbones is just a mercenary

Crossbones hero worshipped Red Skull. At least when Gruenwald was writing it. Did things change over the years?
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>>91311285
Well this was, what, the third clone of Red Skull? I imagine you'd get a bit disenfranchised after your hero has failed and died so many times. But yeah, this "twist" is kinda built on the back of the fact that the reader is supposed to think that Crossbones and Sin would never betray Red Skull. It'd be nice to see how Steve convinced them to join his side, but then again that's precious panel time that could be used on more ZemoxSteve shipping.
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>>91311194

...that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

Wasp fucking Deadpool...give me a break. Wade gets wanked so hard these days.
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>>91311434
He was cured at the time and as a result looked like Tom Selleck. Also, reminder that Wasp fucked Magneto in Secret Wars, so fucking a non-cancer ridden Deadpool is a major step up.
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>>91311012
Except she said she changed things to make him hydra
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>>91311727

She didn't fuck Magneto, she just kissed him. She said that he disgusts her. There's no connection between Janet and Wade, so hooking them up is obviously just an out-of-the-blue way to wank Deadpool.

I'm sure Deadpoolfags loved him adding Janet to his belt of notches, but I've never heard of it because I'm guessing everyone with half a brain thankfully chooses to ignore it.
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goddam Rogue is so sexy in this
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>>91296256
Wonder Man is the best, glad he's back
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>>91296214
Marvel should not be glorifying sexual harassment in the workplace.
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>>91312045

It happened in Secret Secret Wars and honestly it was done back in the past kind of thing but honestly as a major dp fan, I wasn't for it, janet is kind of a cunt and I've never liked her and thought she deserved being with Pym.

Dp's women's gallery are usually made up of women who start out disliking him and eventually realize who he is past the crazy and the ugly, which makes it fairly unique.

From pining over his lolita Siryn to being hated by domino to not being hated to all the other major things involving his character, they're often incidental like satanna, just kind of hang out for a bit and gone.

Shiklah was just terrible from start to finish. One of the worst ideas they've ever had.

Rogue would be a decent fit considering ellie is going to have mutant problems. Or another mutant would at least help understand situation better than a woman that isn't.
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>>91296500
It's like this:
Xavier naturally can reach interstellar distances in his sleep
Cerebro buffs him up
Magneto fucked around with the magnetic field to jam all telepaths to weaken Xavier
This is why you can see what you would think are inconsistencies in his power from time to time.
Xavier still has a pretty big range if he feels like it but generally needs cerebro for plot breaking tier.
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>>91296570
Honestly I was expecting Cap and the Skull to have a long, brutal fight in which both went all out and ended with Steve beheading him with the shield. But I guess it makes sense that Captain Keikakku would take measures to make his victory more certain
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>>91299268
Trump-ish reference at the start >>91296507

I wonder if Spencer thinks of Hillary as real life Carter.
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>>91297248
Sadly it looks like the Wanda Vs Rogue shit is going to be recycled by Zub.
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>>91296214
holy shit that fucking art is fantastic
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>>91298203
That cover is like a huge turd descending into my face.

It's shit and I know it's imminent.
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>>91298203
> Pietro leaves
> In comes Wanda

Retarded timing.
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>>91298203
What's the betting Zub and Spencer make Wanda side with Hydra Cap.
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>>91316331
She wanted some space
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>>91296256

Was this Duggan's last issue? Will this finally be something other than a fucking Deadpool worship book?
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>>91296256
>Deadpool was kissing Wonderman
hahahahahahhaa
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>>91318490

>implying deadpool worship is bad
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>>91296518
>>91296570
>>91296585
dang, this is so fucking good.
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>>91319145

That's exactly what I'm implying. Pretty much every other character, besides Rogue who's been shipped with him this entire run, has been nothing but a background character for nearly the entire run.

Pietro, Janet, Johnny, Jericho, Synapse...all barely received any attention at all. And they're all also in far less books than Deadpool is so this was their best time to shine. It's fucking annoying.
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>>91319536

>Wanting more shithumans
>calling others taste into question

Janet is a cunt, I give you Pietro hasn't gotten much love in a long time otherwise inhumans..really dude, really?
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>>91318490
Next issue is the last. It DOES say Coda at the end.

Duggan's DP distribution was pretty good in Uncanny. If anything, I think his Uncanny has been stronger than his ANADA Deadpool overall, although there are particular issues that still shined bright (The 2099 ones, the second Madcap arc, the recent Hydra Cap issue).

I like that the CWII arc had a neat conversation/epilogue to Hawkeye VS Deadpool.
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>>91313619
>Shiklah was just terrible from start to finish. One of the worst ideas they've ever had.

In the original Dracula's Gauntlet story where she was introduced she was pretty good, but after that her appeal went downhill fast. Joe Kelly in Spider Man/Deadpool writes her pretty entertainingly but otherwise I feel like her story is mostly one which has lasted longer than the list of interesting things you could do with it.
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>>91296110
>>91296124
>Mutant menace continues as they pollute our atmosphere by burning brains
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>>91319695

I think they wanted to make a new property and used DP to do it, just like they use his platform to shill their other nonstarter ideas.

Which is where howling commandos springboard came from too.

When she was a fish out of water in gauntlet, yeah she was different but otherwise she was never interesting on her own, and her involvement was literally a powerplay against dracula. Her monster design is..eh they should have given her a different race or beast form or something, I just dislike all of it.

I mean she's called a succubus and rogue has probably had more fanservice in her design than her.

I feel like on one hand it isn't the characters fault it was badly designed and written and executed and ultimately setup to fail as a heel.

On other hand I think that may have been the intent all along except they thought they might try to make a character of her own and commandos and stuff and maybe this was their intent all along. I mean trajectory of deadpool's life always seems like he is setup to fail.

Siryn grew up to hate him even though all the bad things that happened because of others and not what dp did.

vanessa was a psycho from the start..

alien chicks, animal women, evil scientists.. devilspawn. I've been wracking my brain for appropriate normal relationships and I don't think he has ever been in one. Thirty years of failed relationships and weird one offs.

Rogue is probably most normal woman to give him a chance in his entire career and that is going to be killed off in switch off between duggan and zub.
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I'm confused- is this a big reveal that Captain America has been- always been a fucking Hydra Agent for all this time?

I'd buy him being a deep, deep, unconscious Hydra Agent.

Man, I need to catch up.
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>>91319777
The reveal is that Steve thinks that the world he's currently in is fake. In the real world he was always a loyal Hydra agent and Hydra won World War II. He believes that the allies used the Cosmic Cube to rewrite reality so that he was never Hydra and the Allies won WWII. As far he's concerned, when Kobik turned him into a young man, she brought out his "true" self.
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>>91296214
Foreshadowed 2 months ago in Deadpool
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>>91310736
Nah, he's not contained anywhere, he's dead. Cap's talking about burying his corpse, inter is correct.
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>>91301984
He did an issue of Venom back in the day. Drew Andi like a qt (3 bottom pictures)
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>>91304934
>Simba...
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>>91296585
I wish we'd been told how long have Sin and Crossbones been on Steve's ride
As good as the characters in general have been in HydraCap, the fact that Cynthia always seemed unconditionally loyal to her father always bothered me, glad to see it was all part of the keikaku too
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>>91320858
Oh shit, he's the guy who drew the Venom-mobile
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>>91298771
R-roberto?
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>>91311399
Speaking of clones. Do they souls? I was thinking of how many red skulls are in hell and if they meet up.
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>>91301984
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>>91321267
clone is small part of the main soul, when their go to hell, their become one. Only one who developt enought to become it own identity,own soul
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>>91320858
Never would have thought this was the same artist.
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>>91321554
What marvel comic you getting that shit from?
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>>91296124
could someone make this into a wallpaper, its gorgeous
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>>91320133
Was it?
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>>91311012
Kobik expressly said otherwise.

I don't think Marvel would be stupid enough to double down on the worst part of this storyline when everything else about it is going great.
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>>91312799
Don't worry, Marvel calls out sexual harassment.

And then ignores it afterwards.

>>91321267
>>91321655
Not them, but I recall Nightcrawler having a conversation with a clone of Scalphunter who had found religion on that very topic. I don't remember where it was exactly, but it was shortly before the whole Battleworlds thing.
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>>91299227
I feel the same.
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>>91295985
I haven't read Marvel since Fear Itself. The fuck are they doing?
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>>91323272
The Red Skull used the Cosmic Cube to make Steve think he's always been a loyal Hydra agent.
What Skull didn't count on was that Steve was loyal to the ideal of Hydra, not to the Skull himself. As such, Steve has been planning to take over Hydra himself all along, and in this issue he succeeds, murdering the Skull and getting everyone in Hydra (Sin, Crossbones, Viper, Zemo, Gorgon, Arnim Zola, Dr. faustus and many more) to pledge loyalty to him. Next month, the event Secret Empire begins where he takes over America.
>>
This could have been great if Marvel management didn't fuck it up.
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>>91299268
>No Thunderbolts saves the day option
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>>91296507
>>91296495
Would it be to much to ask of a European hero league to fix this rather then SHIELD? Are Marvel really that small in scope?
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>>91320858
Larraz also did Rage of Ultron with Opeña. It was really good, I'm glad they got him for part of Uncanny Avengers.
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>>91325845
If they're not in movies or part of the diversity push then they might as well not exist.
>>
>>91325845
SHIELD is world police.
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>>91326288
So is Interpol but even they can't just walk into a country as they please, there are rules for these sort of things
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>>91326243
Huh, I didn't realise that Rogue, Deadpool, Synapse, Brother Vooodoo, Sin and Johnny Storm had appeared in the MCU. Must have missed a few movies.
>>
>>91296295
It took 12 fucking issues to see any progress on the "star turning into Hydra symbol" thing.

Goddammit Spencer.
>>
I still can't help but ask why the hell didn't they killed the Skull when they had the chance to do a fucking brain surgery on him. I mean, it won't be out of place even in Marvel, since barely anyone is a paragon of justice in here, unlike DC.
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>>91323217
Madame Bovary reference?
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>>91318069
I thought Mettle was dead
>>
Never read UA before but that was a really solid issue. Cap was good but most of the art awful, shame they can't wrangle a talented artist for a such an important, or at least promoted, event.
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>>91323217
is this any good?

roadtripping hawkeye sounds like an intriguing premise
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>>91327445
Beast only practices genocide, not homicide )))
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>>91329183
Yeah, it's good. Most people wrote it off because of the horrible title, but the comic itself is solid.
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>>91323157
Not really.
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>>91323217
That's John Redcorn.
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>>91328307
It's been ages since I had to read that book for school, and it bored me to death. What's the reference?

>>91329183
I'm enjoying it. And it has Doc Nightshade, my favorite underused character.
>>
Haven't enjoyed marvel books like these in a long time.
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>>91319695
Did you actually like her though or just idea of a succubus?
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>>91331377
>Why don't we have more European comic story times?
Feel free to do your own storytimes, anon. Be the change you want to see in the world.
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>>91331377
No one's stopping you from doing your own storytimes.
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>>91331377
lol fag
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>>91297756
Behold the power of my stand: 「Wonder Boy」!
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>>91296518
>>91296570
What? Who is doing this? Such a lust for revenge! WHOOOOOOOOOOOO?!
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>>91299592
>even in death, I must still nazi
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>>91296465
>Forearm pouches
Did Rob ever think of those?
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>>91330214
Something about making out and reciting poetry around fertilizer.

I can't remember well.
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>>91329183
Starts a bit weak (issues 3 and 4, especially), as UA, funny enough. But issue 5 have been great, with both changes in art (from Pacheco, I think, to Walta) and genre (from action to suspense).

Definitely a read if you like trip/road adventures.
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>>91332685
There's very few places that Rob never tried sticking a pouch onto.
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>>91323061
More of a shiptease in the aftermath of Wade and Shik-lah's separation post-CWII.
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>>91296585
How long have they've been on Steve's side? How come Red Skull didn't read THEIR mind and figure it out?
And don't say "it's not like he's reading people's mind all the time", but that's the only thing telephats ever do 24 hours a day.
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>>91296042
kek. red skull looks like a fucking midget bec. of that wonky foreshortening in panel 3.
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>>91341057
Neat

I was just going through all the previous issues and it's really cool to see how they came together and it makes sense and is why I'm really okay with it.
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>>91327445
You'd think after the WW2 in the Marvel Universe, the Red Skull would've been tried in absentia like other Nazi officers and sentenced to death by hanging. Instead, every time they secure him, they just put him in prison. It's alost worst than the joker.
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>>91341057

The reason why he did this though is he wanted a female mutant there to help her.

So his choices were domino and rogue. And domino would most likely go all mutant pride on her ass.
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>>91342777

I forgot to add negasonic but honestly thats more like a babysitter and less like a parent
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>>91305172
no?
turning heterosexual CIS white male in the embodiment of nazism so Capt Marvel Dyke could defeat him and make the world safe for tumblrs special snowflakes is not related to SJW?
fuck you.
just fuck you.
its because of people like you no one buys marvel anymore.
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>>91343825
Calm down, Cletus.
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>>91298771
That seems not like a good way to park airplanes.
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>>91295985
Selfish bump
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>>91343825
>Hydra
>the embodiment of nazism
This is how I know that you don't actually read comics.
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>>91323492
Anon. We will never get that Thunderbolts push.
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>>91339552
is this a JoJo reference?
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>>91323222
no way was this ass hole that handsome.
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>>91345738
I read them before your hipster ass was even born
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>>91348227
That's Ock in a cloned body of Peter's that's been spliced with Otto's DNA. So he's half Peter, half Ock.
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>>91348519
Probably more like 85% Peter and 15% Ock
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