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Is she a good creator? She made one of the most beautiful, epic,

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Is she a good creator? She made one of the most beautiful, epic, and consistent shows of all time with great morals.
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>>91243587
well su is consistent; consistently bad
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Degeneracy isn't a moral
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>>91243604
No it's not. It teaches kids that you can love the same gender that you are. It's a great coming of age story. Plus, have you seen the episode where Steven got killed by cats?
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>>91243618
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>>91243587
Weak bait.
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>>91243618
Weaker bait
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>>91243587
wait, she did something else than SU?
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>>91243753
What the fuck is that
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>>91243587
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>consistent
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>>91243587

>first woman to have a show on cartoon network
>fucks it up by making a bland, unoriginal, degenerate pile of shit
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>>91243587
thats pretty much what I expected SU's creator to look like.
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>>91243587
>one of the most beautiful, epic, and consistent shows of all time

Stop false-flagging.

Why do you do this? This is high tier autism.
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>>91243587

Steven Universe isn't a bad series, but no, Sugar is not a good creator. The majority of episodes she's been head writer for are either notoriously bad or plot derived filler episodes.

Examples being "Cat Fingers" and "Alone at Sea"
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>>91243965
it is original in its own way everything else is justified
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>>91244125
>notoriously bad episodes of Steven Universe
Like what?
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>>91244262

I gave two examples....
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>>91243587
she has ideas but not the leadership to carry them on

wouldn't be surprised if she starts regretting the direction SU took.
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>>91244125
> plot derived filler episodes
say what now
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>>91243753
This makes me want to kill myself
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>>91243587
reminder to add the word steven to all steven universe threads so my filters pick it up
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>>91244304

Deprived*
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>>91243587
Oh good ANOTHER thread that will dissolve into the same well-known arguments about why Steven Universe is shit that can be found in every other Rebecca Sugar/Steven Universe thread.
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>>91243965
> bland degenerate
Is English your third language
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>>91244368
This
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>>91243587
Into the >>>/trash/ you go
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>>91243587
Who is this autistic?
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>>91244368
well, no matter how it make you angry, they are still good arguments, that you never countered outside of name calling.
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Steven Universe is better than all the old Cartoon Network shows from the 90s. Also, Adventure Time is classic which is a show that Rebecca Sugar worked on
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>>91244368
>Oh good ANOTHER thread that will dissolve into the same well-known arguments about
well that's pretty much this whole fucking board now, though
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>>91244443
>how it make you angry
>good arguments, that you never countered

Troll is troll

Or autistic
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>>91243753
... if it weren't for shit like this, SU wouldn't be so hated.
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>>91244471
Bait.
Try harder.
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>>91244443
I think SUfags need to stop making Steven Universe bait threads and go to trash where they belong.
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she is starting to look like toriyama-sensei
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>>91244510
But Adventure Time and Steven Universe were the first Cartoon Network shows to have lore and story arcs
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>>91244603
I said bait harder faggot. Do you even troll?
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>>91244506
Ronaldo was a mistake. Townies in general were a mistake.
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>>91243587
Fuck no
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>>91244125
Cat Fingers was one of the only good episodes
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>>91244683
Obviously you don't know good art. Honestly, I think /co/ hates it because of the fanbase, which is stupid
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Are their any cartoons with duos with personalities like Jasper and Peridot? They're the only reasons I used to watch the show.
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>>91244471
How many episodes did she worked on ?
8 , 9 ?
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>>91243587
>>91244721

Sucrose was better off on tumblr drawing Ed, Edd & Eddy porn.
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>>91244443
Who got the quints?
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>>91244670
Rebecca suger was a mistake
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>>91244721
>ignores all arguments /co/ and ex-fans of the show have given for why the show is shit
You are the one who is stupid,, but that's to be expected of SUfags.
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>>91243587
She was a great creator but like everybody else she had a weakness, she needed money or she was greedy. That's what I think when I look at that photo.

People are always saying Rebecca is doing this or that to pass censors or that CN couldn't let her do this or that. CN is who is promoting gay characters and relationships. Look at Adventure time, when the writer was done, CN took the control and then that shit began to be serious.

"True Love never ends" that was the publicity CN was spreading on internet. Of course, that's not the case with TV advertisement.

CN is the main promoter of gay characters in its shows, cause the fashion means money, they don't care if they destroy the characters in the way.
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>>91243753
>using the one set of gender neutral singular pronouns that were made as a joke to sound weird and make fun of queers instead of an actual set
>this is in a school
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>>91243753
crngy as fuck, tough im not entirely against this shit being taught in highschools, atleast some of it
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>>91244878
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>>91243965
>le degenerate meem

shouldnt you be back at your board, fapping to ponies?
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>>91243604
These first posts, man.

They keep being the best posts.
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>>91243587
lmao
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>>91244838

Are you talking about ze and zir? Because that goes back to at least the late 90s (e.g. My Gender Workbook by Kate Bornstein).
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>>91244755
21 episodes
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>>91244703
How so?
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>>91244788
Ed, Edd n Eddy was good, but Steven Universe is better because SU can show the power of animation. It's up there with SpongeBob, Avatar, Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, The Simpsons, Family Guy, Jimmy Neutron, King of the Hill, Rick and Morty, Looney Tunes, and South Park as one of the greatest animated series ever
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>>91244894
dont you talk shit about amy
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>>91243604
fpbp
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>>91245050
She looks like Grimace in a wig.
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>>91244809
I believe the last four numbers need to be the same in order for it to count.
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>>91245050
purple retarded shit
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>>91245070
I misread it. sorry about that.
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>>91244954
>current year
>using anything other than Spivak 1983
I sure hope e doesn't do this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spivak_pronoun
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The SU Fanbase might just be the worst fanbase since the bronies.
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>>91245144
No matter how you turn it, at least the bronies kept it in one place when given the opportunity.
SU fags are there to fight first, they will invade threads just for the sake of taking up space on the board. The whole SJ spam is their own work, they want the show out of the view so they are false flagging like crazy to get it "illegal"..They did that for the Loud house, so it's not a novelty trick for them.
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>>91243587
Everything good about this show began and quickly died with Jailbreak. Sugar had a good thing going until she let her fucking story boarders take the reigns. They suck for driving what's left of the show into the ground, and she's a hack for letting it happen.
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Hey I got banned for off topic in a su thread, talking about the fanbase and not the show. Am I lame?
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>>91245199
He is talking about the fanbase in general, not 4chan, dumbass. And barneyfags were never "contained" before /mlp/ and they've only become worse because of being bottled up.

>The whole SJ spam is their own work
YOU HATE SPACE JAM TOO?! FUCK YOU, BUDDY!
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>>91244788
Ironically, she drew that stuff back in her drawfag days on 4chan.
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It's always LGBT with her.
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>>91243587
>She made one of the most beautiful, epic, and consistent shows of all time with great morals.
Courage? She didnt make Courage you fucking liar faggot
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>>91245303
what could you do for money? gay stuff? declare yourself bi when you have had a boyfriend for years and years?
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>>91243618
I don't think gender is important at all or even real, this show would have "great morals" if it was telling kids it matters more to learn to love yourself first and teaching them why that's not the same thing as being an egocentric cunt.
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I'll never understand why people consider current cartoon art or a fair amount of those shows' production values in general good.

And when did f.p.s. become that much more important to the average viewer than the main art?
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>>91243587
>she made one of the most beautiful, epic, and consistent shows ...with great morals.

Everybody hates this kind of emotional comment of a worshipper, 4chan hates that fandom for this and the pretense of morality and because the fangirls are very stupid from an objective perspective since the show lost continuity after the season 2, the characters are inconsistent and the plot too
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>>91245376
>declare yourself bi when you have had a boyfriend for years and years
Do you know what bisexuality is? You can have a boyfriend and still be bi, anon.
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>>91245577
But was there any real reason to divulge that? Feels like trying to gain fame for just being what you are.
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You have to admit that it's not the worst Cartoon Network show that's ever existed

Cow and Chicken, I Am Weasel, Mike, Lu and Og, Robot Jones, Camp Lazlo, My Gym Partner's a Monkey, and Squirrel Boy were all terrible shows
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>>91245596
It was kind of like that.

>"Well now that everyone is watching, and now that you've asked ... :-)"

The worst thing to do in that situation is react with anything more enthusiastic than "Oh."
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>>91245596
IIRC a fan asked and she answered.
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>>91245045
>This entire post.
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>>91245611
I'll disagree on Cow and Chicken, that show was decent enough. Granted it was mostly thanks to Charlie Adler.

Season 1 Johnny Bravo was much worse.
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is she balding /co/? that hair seems off.
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>>91245669
Pompadours do no favors for anyone's hairline, but that pic is old. She wears her hair down now, I think.
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>>91245634
I'm surprised people still reply to the same bait thread topic consistently while telling OP to go away and stop making these.

You guys aren't all newfags right? I'm not referring to the following in regards to any particular thread, but there's a feature that lets you prevent your posts from bumping threads if you find that useful to your everyday browsing.
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>>91244471
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>>91243753
>asexual
>pansexual
>gender is a social construct

>There's a high school near me that made it a rule to use gender neutral pronouns
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>>91243753
I thought I might learn something about gender-neutral terms from this, but it's so ignorant that I can't trust the info enough.
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>>91243618
>Gender
>Being a focus of SU
Confirmed for bait poster who doesn't watch the show
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>>91245258
You probably got mass reported for ilegal content, Tumblr does that all the time with the people they don't like
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>>91243587
>Is she a good creator?
It's going to be a while before she's offered the chance to showrun a series again. She'll oversee a movie that has some critical merit but still flounder badly, do a graphic novel for the YA market and then quietly disappear to teach at the school everyone thinks she graduated from.
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>>91243587
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>>91243587
I'm a fan of her earlier work and her more grotesque and interesting (imo) personal style. all of that being smoothed completely out of SU was my biggest disappointed with the show (tho honestly I stopped watching after S1 anyway).

my biggest hope is that SU's success gives her the industry capital to do something more akin to pug davis but I wouldn't make any bets on it
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>>91245973
I watch the show. I saw the episode where there's multiple Stevens and the one where Amythest and Steven run away from here. I've seen every episode of this show
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>>91243753
Problem: That picture.
Solution: This picture.
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>>91246090
I meant to say home instead of here
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>>91246094
Hell yes
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>>91243587
Nope
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>91246342
Except you just did
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>>91246342
epic
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>>91246342
Oh look another brainless SUfag.
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>>91246563
>shartmart ammonia
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>>91243753
...
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She is a good creator but a very bad boss. She isn't able to keep her storyborders in check
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>>91243753
>A generation of children are guaranteed to be traumatized once they leave school and see that all the unnecessary over-the-top bullshit they were taught in school is absolutely meaningless and, as they need a coping mechanism, will outright defend every single thing regardless of how many criticisms and weaknesses are found in their arguments.
I get that SJW's and others with that mindset have problems, but spreading said problems to other people is perhaps the worst thing you could do as a human being.
That pic isn't even that bad, I'm just considering what else they might be teaching.
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This show sucks hard!

>Annoying unlikeable characters
>Annoying fucking voices, no voice acting at all just reading from paper, all voices sound the same
>Genarally sound sucks in this show, music is ass
>artstyle is shit, disgusting colours and design
>Show is actually about nothing, their "problems" makes no sense, they don't behave racionally and not even in funny way, they are suppose to be superheroes but they are not at all
>There are supposed to be jokes in this show but it's annoying lolrandumb mess

https://vimeo.com/96617407
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>be rebecca sugar
>have a legit, not-to-pretentious indie artist mind with some nifty ideas and like anime
>start show after being successful in adventure time
>dont set standardized designs across all of my artists
>let them have completely full reign over my show's storyboards
>flanderize characters and episodes become far too preachy instead of quirk with some heart warming
>when I make episodes and take full reign theyre generally pretty decent

I heard danny antonucci was good at balancing his artist's freedom and his artistic vision, maybe rebecca should E-mail him for pointers.
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>>91244384
>>91244904

There he is.
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>>91246893
Teenagers tend to rebel against the status quo as they age. I imagine a lot of the kids that grew up with this crap are going to be completely against this crap. Hopefully they won't be racist or sexist because of these assholes fucked up views on race and gender relations.
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>>91247211
>have a legit, not-to-pretentious indie artist mind
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>>91243965
>first woman to have a show on cartoon network
wasn't foster's home a show made by McCracken's wife?
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>>91247275
>Hopefully they won't be racist or sexist because of these assholes fucked up views on race and gender relations.

Ideally they'll just find the proper balance between respecting other people and not feeding into their insecure delusions and have a better head start in life socially. It could be the 90's all over again, right now the political climate is similar to the 70's where there is a civil war between SJWs and people who just want to be able to say niggerfaggot without repurcussions.
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>>91243587
>I think death is really funny
what did she mean by this?
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>>91243753
>>91243753

>Herms apparently do not exist

>Trans is a biological gender

...Oooookaaaaayyyyy...
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>>91247359
*crying
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>>91247275
>Teenagers tend to rebel against the status quo as they age
Teenagers from first world shitholes with no real problems you mean.

I hate how society always needs something to keep itself busy with. When it's not about wars or famine, it's whining about gender.
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>>91243587
Good creator, terrible director.
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>>91243587
>Is she a good creator?

Creator? Yes, absolutely. She has wonderful ideas and beautiful designs. The world she has presented to us is one of wonder, with limitless potential.

The problem is once she creates something, she doesn't know what the fuck to do with it. She can't write a satisfying payoff to save her life, and constantly flip-flops between ideas and executions to an extent that all of them suffer for it. Sugar seems almost entirely incapable of telling a story with any sort of coherent narrative, opting instead to shit out a loose coil of vaguely interconnected events that more often than not obscure the interesting details and elements for boring, go-nowhere, do-nothing doldrums.

It's so painfully frustrating to see so much of Steven Universe's potential squandered on nonsense.
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