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Things We'll Never See Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

>Out This Week:
Darth Revan #2 (Tuesday 4th)
Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir Hardback (Tuesday 4th)
Dooku - By Luceno (Thursday 6th)

>Rebels 3.20/21: "Zero Hour" Parts 1 and 2
https://mega.nz/#F!6kczUR6L!03HhW1zTC92RQPHlO3Yi0w

>Rebels Recon: Zero Hour
https://youtu.be/MyUY7LnE4ls [Embed]

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
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Delete this shit thread and take the jokes out of the OP
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>>91240240
>>Out This Week:
>Darth Revan #2 (Tuesday 4th)
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I'm really digging c3po in the poe comics
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>>91240240
>Darth Revan #2 (Tuesday 4th)
>Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir Hardback (Tuesday 4th)
>Dooku - By Luceno (Thursday 6th)
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>>91240270
One word...
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Post your favourite character
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There was never another man that could peeve the Sheev.
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>>91240326
Something interesting finally happen in the Poe comic?
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>>91240473
This can't be real
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>>91240466
Un-ironically him.
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>>91240496
If you have a valid explanation, I will accept your opinion.
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>>91239990
>>91240007
>>91240028
>>91240034
I tried
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>>91240518
I fucking love it
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>>91240240
Vader would wreck mauls shit in .0001 seconds, it would be a pretty shit fight
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>>91240531
this
*force chokes maul*
*slice*
nothin personel gramps
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>>91240502
>Valid explanation

>Because of his role in abetting the rise of the Empire, he was once again exiled by his people. After the Battle of Endor and the rise of the New Republic, he performed in the streets of Theed as a clown and street performer...

>Binks entertained the children [of Theed] by performing numerous antics including wagging his tongue, juggling glombo shells, spitting fish up in the air and catching them, dancing around, and swallowing and flushing out water through his ears.

>In 5 ABY, Binks encountered a young refugee boy named Mapo while performing in Theed's Plaza of the Catalan. Mapo was a ward at a nearby orphanage who had been badly burned after the Empire had bombed his home on the fuel depot Golus Station.

>When Mapo asked Binks if he could teach him to be a clown, Binks gratefully accepted Mapo's request and the boy's friendship

Is that valid enough for you?
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>>91240521
Slight tweak.
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>>91240580
Saved.
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>>91240576
Yep. It all comes down to personal preference.

opinions are like assholes, everyones got one
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>>91240466
>emperor dubs
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>>91240584
>>91240580

Had to fix FB's helmet aswell should be good now
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>wwn see two SSDs duking it out in nu-canon.
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What are some things/characters that need to come back from Legends?

I would like to see Admiral Daala, and by extension the Maw Instillation, become canon.
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>>91240906
Does she get to fuck tarkin

because Tarkin is for ________me
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>>91240755
The First Order has the Eclipse and the Sovereign Latitudes have that hijacked SSD.

Maybe the NR already took the pirates down and hopefully stashed the vessel somewhere instead of decommisioning or the pirate republic still exists and Maz recruits them for the Resistance (why else keep that useless character around when Luke's back in the picture).

Either way, we could easily get an SSD vs. SSD in IX.
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>>91240531
>>91240556
Vader fags cancerous as always
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I hope she wants to fuck Ezra as well.
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>>91240959
>literally force jesus

>lel he'd be SO underpowered against the king of the jobbers
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>>91240960
Barriss is for Ahsoka only.
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>>91240994
But what if Barriss is the Second Sister

Her initials would be /ss/ as well.
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>>91241171
She ain't interested in the first 's' anon.
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>>91241325
Can I at least ship Barriss and SS? (pre Mauling)
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>>91240518

Fockin noice!
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>>91241413
This is acceptable.

though I'm sure she's there with both of them. Having a fourway of a lifetime.
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>>91241446
>>91240687
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>>91241531
>orange buttcheeks sandwhiched between 2 pairs of yellow buttcheeks
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>>91240466
Emperor Palpatine, always was and always will be.

Supreme Chancellor, Emperor, sharp-witted, well-educated, all-powerful Sith Lord, ambitious. Misunderstood hero.
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>>91241778
Praise Sheev.
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Henceforth, you will be known as Darth _____
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>>91241413
Pre-Order 66 SS was PURE
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>>91242163
Perhabs, but what about SS post-Order 66 until Malachor.

She has been a naughty girl.

Also the /swco/ colored Jedi SS looks cuter.
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>>91242428
Whoops, meant to reply to>>91242397
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>we will never get Clone Wars episodes about the Inquisitors during their time as Jedi
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>George Lucas Interview On 60 Minutes About Star Wars Episode III

I miss George
How could we let him leave?

>I'm not worried at all. They haven't liked any of them really. And they have especially haven't liked the last two so hey it can't get any worse

>The point is it's like if you paint your house white and somebody comes over and says that should be a green house well fine but I wanted to paint it white and I don't think there's anything wrong with white and I don't think there's anything wrong with me for painting it white, maybe it should have been a green house, but I wanted it to be a white house

We will never get someone as based as him ;-;
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>>91242509
Based George.
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How much weaker was Anakin as Vader in comparison to his time as a Jedi Knight? Didn't the suit cripple him or something?
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>>91242509
>9:49
>"There is no Episode Seven"

Pretty much how I feel. TFA is just a glorified fanfiction by a jewish hack :^)
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>>91242621
Wasn't it based on some of George's ideas though?
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>>91242621
But how is Rogue One?
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>>91242638
There is probably a large difference between George's Ideas and what JJ delivered.

TFA is the only Star Wars movie that had me leaving the theater with a disgusted grunt instead of a happy "fuck yeah Star Wars".

At first I thought perhaps I had just grown out of it but then Rogue One came along and it was the same "fuck yeah Star Wars" as with episodes 1-6.
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>>91242642
It's great.
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>>91242680
TFA is a Star Wars movie made for people who neither like nor care about Star Wars

Rogue One is for people who are fans of the series
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>>91242680
From the sounds of it, George had more of Luke in the movie. Like he had the role in the story Han ended up with. But those versions kept having script trouble because Luke overshadowed the new cast entirely, hence the switch to Han and the search for Skywalker storyline. Also at this point in early development, Kylo was Luke's son and Poe and Finn were basically one "Han Solo's son who inherited the Falcon" character.

Starkiller Base was also entirely an invention of JJ's and really, more then anything else, that's the root of TFA's problems.
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I don't think Lucas had a definitive version of EPVII, just several concepts lying around. I also heard Luke was supposed to search for his sister in the sequels but due to time restraints Lucas just made Leia his sister hence why it comes across so awkward.
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>>91242836
That's more or less the result of his divorce. Like that whole experience left him going "Fuck it, this is the last Star Wars, gonna resolve all the plot points in one go instead of four movies and be done with it because I'm going to blame this fucking series for ruining my life in this way".
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>>91242793
if you remove starkiller base and just make it that the resistance is attacking the FO main base the film improves tenfold
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>>91242600
Nah he was more powerful and learned from his mistakes. I've always assumed the 80% of Sidious meant that by the time of ROTJ that 100% Vader=80% of Sidious's full power.

Actually it was the same in Legends he took on about half a dozen Jedi by himself and slaughtered them.
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Anyone have problems with MEGA download? Mine is stuck on Queue and I haven't downloaded anything in weeks to pass the limit.
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>>91242793
Literally everything you said there makes me think that George's version would have been objectively better.

I really honestly suspect Lucasfilm shares this sentiment. I honestly trust that they're going to try their best to make 8 closer to Lucas's vision.

>Dave Filoni drew concept art for Lucas's version of TFA, where we would have been introduced to Han on Felucia
>We will never see this Lucas/Filoni vision on the big screen because JJ wanted to rush Han non-nonsensically into TFA with the "yer a ded mon" scene

Actually pisses me off thinking about this stuff. To this day I still don't understand how or why JJ thought rehashing ANH for "the new age" was what Star Wars fans wanted.

And yeah, I know some people think it was a necessary evil to play it safe and ensure the ST starts off with a huge success, but do you really think they would have made any less money when you basically replace the Starkiller Base shit for Luke kicking ass? Showing a few seconds of a Luke action scene in the trailer might have even got MORE people to see TFA on launch.
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>>91242680
>TFA is the only Star Wars movie that had me leaving the theater with a disgusted grunt instead of a happy "fuck yeah Star Wars".
>At first I thought perhaps I had just grown out of it but then Rogue One came along and it was the same "fuck yeah Star Wars" as with episodes 1-6.

>>91242747
>TFA is a Star Wars movie made for people who neither like nor care about Star Wars
>Rogue One is for people who are fans of the series

You guys nailed it. TFA felt like it was made for the normiest "fans" possible, the guys who are quicker to remember references and sketches they saw on saturday night tv, than the actual movies. Rogue One just felt like an honest piece of Star Wars media from Lucasfilm.
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TFA feels like a slightly better marvel movie
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>>91243523
I'm excited for 8/9 since Lucasfilm has a lot more direct control over it
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>>91242509
Holy shit, I never knew that some Anakin and Obi-Wan scenes were CGI.

>>91243523
>I know some people think it was a necessary evil to play it safe and ensure the ST starts off with a huge success
I hate it when people use this excuse and this is why the film industry is shit and why they fucked up. A film should make money because it was good. When you go make a film and rely on nothing but references, nostalgia pandering, cameos, quips, and copying the plot and iconic scenes just to be successful, then you're a shit film maker. They literally could've filmed a pile of shit, slap Star Wars onto it and it would still make a lot of money either way.
At least George never did it for the money and never intended on making it big as it got
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>>91243523

Probably because JJ is a specialist in rehashing old ideas and reskinning them as "new" via a few tweaks to avoid being fully plagiaristic. It's been his MO for almost two decades now.
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>>91243634
I'd say a below average marvel movie actually. More like Age of Ultron then something like Winter Soldier or Civil War.
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>>91243578
This may be my autism but did it bother anyone else how '''modern''' or block bustery the dialogue felt.

>You got a boyfriend, need a boyfriend?
>IM IN CHARGE BOOYAH
>Haaan Sooolooo, where is my boyfriend Chewie?

Thank you for that mental image JJ.
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Post your favourite lightsabers.
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>>91244100
I felt the same way and it bothered me.
>I'll show you the darkside.
>I'm in charge, I'm in charge, now!
Some lines seemed really forced to me.
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>>91244131
I like /ss/'s variant more

But Gungi has the kinosaber
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>>91244266
It looks kinda cool as well
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>>91243379
If Vader had 80% of Sheevs strength how the fuck did he lose to Luke, that would mean that he was at least Yoda-tier and Yoda demonstratably btfo Luke
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>>91244444
That's not how SW fights work.

Take the Inkies for example. They are scrubs but they probably killed hundreds of Jedi because they caught them off guard with their spinny cheat-mode sabers.

Vader probably got overconfident and bottled it as Dark Siders tend to do.
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>>91244100
>>91244218
Do you feel in charge?
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>>91244444
Vader lost to Luke because he was emotionally overwhelmed, not because he was outskilled.

He saw his son lose his shit, much like he had in the past, and he realized that this is never what he could have wanted.

This, combined with having watched Luke then turn away from such a destructive path, is what makes Vader heave the Sheev.
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>>91244444
Vader wasn't 80% of Sheev's strength, he was 80% of his maximum potential with the cybernetics keeping him down, he could have ripped Sheev a new one at any minute (and in fact eventually did) but for the fact he was so totally pussy-whipped by Palpatine. Also Luke's just that good.
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>>91240466
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>>91244499
>heave the Sheev
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>>91244532
My Nigga
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How do you /ss/-fags feel about the idea that we may be seeing her in the upcoming Vader comic?
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>>91240906
Let her come back actually competent instead of brain damaged, too.
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>>91244531
>Also Luke's just that good.
No longer canon though, Luke isn't a god-king of the Force in the nucanon
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>>91244581
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>>91244131
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>>91244499
>>91244488
>>91244444
NANI
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>>91244611
Ehh, always found this one kinda boring. It's just Anakins and Obi-Wans fused together
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>>91244613
Cut it out anon, this is a basic-speaking Besalisk Cooking Forum thank you very much
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>all the Vaderfag asspain when he, Rey and Snoke are all revealed to be Plagueis experiments
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>>91244680
Are you implying that Plageuis is still alive? And yet he still isn't Snoke?

Also, Vader was already an experiment/accident. It's not like Plagueis himself was intending to grow a new apprentice from scratch.
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>>91244595
I'm not saying he's EU tier overpowered I'm saying he's powerful enough to defeat Vader, because that's what Yoda and Obi-Wan thought, and what the movie showed.
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>>91244680
It'll be a tragedy.
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>>91244724
>Also, Vader was already an experiment/accident.

Not canon.. YET
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>>91244724
no he's still dead

but that's why Snoke knew how to contact Sheev
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>>91244488
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>91244747
There's nothing to suggest he was intentionally created by Plagueis either though. Truth is, we have no clue what ACTUALLY happened, or why.

Just "he was trying to create life, and woah hey look at that, Anakin popped out of nowhere on Tatooine, what a coincidence"
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>>91244680
I'll burn this whole board down if that's true. You guys will have to move to /swtv/
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I think Rey having no parents is the most likely outcome
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>>91244680
But I thought that it was canon that Anakin was the Forces reaction to Plagueis and Sidious fucking its shit up with the Dark Side, so isn't he already a Plagueis experiment?
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>>91244841
It's heavily implied but it hasn't been outright stated in canon yet

my question is whether or not Snoke is another clone thing
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Will people ACTUALLY be angry if Vader is given a concrete origin beyond "idk, magic, lol"
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>>91244766
What is pic
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>>91244868
Snoke is Mace Windu
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>>91244906
Attack the Block

movie that got Boyega the role
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>>91244906
Finn running away and getting chased by angry aliens.
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>>91244902
Ehh, I doubt people will really be upset, but I think it would be better left a mystery, and if I had to put money on it, I'd say Lucasfilm want to keep it that way too
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>>91244902
Whats wrong with him just being a kid who gets born, leaving whether or not the jedi actually predicted him or whether he just was a cosmic chance happening as the mystery that its been left as?
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>>91244995
how about the fact he had no father
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>>91245004
I also have never seen a single mother in my life
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>>91244935
Is it shit
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>>91244131
Jedi Academy had some good ones but Arbiter's more utilitarian look is the best
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>>91245042
>dude semantics xD
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>>91245160
British kino
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>>91242509
>The point is it's like if you paint your house white and somebody comes over and says that should be a green house well fine but I wanted to paint it white and I don't think there's anything wrong with white and I don't think there's anything wrong with me for painting it white, maybe it should have been a green house, but I wanted it to be a white house

The last true auteur. And the first of the tragic sacrifices to the rabid, childish, uninformed and insatiable delusions of the contemporary fanbase.
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>>91244040
>>91244100
I agree.
TFA felt like if Joss Whedon made Star Wars
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>>91244581
Oh yeah
We're getting the origin story of the inkies in the new Vader comic. That's going to be pretty exciting.
MORE GRINKY
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>>91244902
Depends on what his origin is. I mean, everything up until now sort of only works if it is idk,magic, lol
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Slow thread today
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Does anyone here play Empire at War?
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>>91245987
yes and I hate its cheating fucking bullshit ai
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>>91245987
Yep

>>91246227
>Level 5 space station
>gravity well generator
>long range scanner
>sits at a crucial intersection of planets
>rebels send 3 units
>only got small garrison on planet
>3 hours of back and forth grinding, rebels win
>lose tens of thousands of credits to 3 fucking units
AHHH
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>>91246279
>blockade a planet
>imperials only have 1 squad of ATSTs
>order the 40 plex launcher squads in orbit to attack
>autoresolve
>Victory!
>Imperial Losses: 1 AT-ST squadron
>Rebel Losses: 38 PLX squads

in b4 *corrupts your thread*
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>>91244444
Luke has the potential to be twice as powerful as the Emperor and Yoda.

2005-06-02
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/george-lucas-and-the-cult-of-darth-vader-20050602

Lucas: But Obi-Wan screwed that up by cutting off his arms and legs and burning him up. From then on, he wasn't as strong as the Emperor – he was like Darth Maul or Count Dooku. He wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that.

2005-02
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2005/02/star-wars-george-lucas-story

“Anakin, as Skywalker, as a human being, was going to be extremely powerful,” he says. “But he ended up losing his arms and a leg and became partly a robot. So a lot of his ability to use the Force, a lot of his powers, are curbed at this point, because, as a living form, there’s not that much of him left. So his ability to be twice as good as the Emperor disappeared, and now he’s maybe 20 percent less than the Emperor. So that isn’t what the Emperor had in mind. He wanted this really super guy, but that got derailed by Obi-Wan.
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>>91246402
Auto resolve is such horseshit.
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>>91246411
This is dumb. I can respect that this is George's thoughts on the matter, but I'll hope nothing canon ever comments on it.
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>>91246411
>powerlevel shit
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>>91246626
autoresolve is basically the only option since ground battles are such slow boring fucking slogs while some nigger enemy unit hides out at the corners of the map running around forever out of range
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>>91246741
AHHH I FUCKING HATE THAT SHIT
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>>91246729
Daily Reminder: SSposters' tears are so powerful they can sustain Filoni's bloodlust in perpetuity, forever rendering your waifu or husbando safe from harm as long as they are a named character.
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>>91246729
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>>91246741
Is there a way to just patch out ground battles?

Did that Homeworld mod ever get finished?
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>>91246775
>She's one with the Force and the Force is with me
>She's one with the Force and the Force is with me
>She's one with the Force and the Force is with me
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FREEMAKER ADVENTURES SEASON 2
https://youtu.be/u_Wo9KMY26Y
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>>91247131
>Lego Hera

Oh my...
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>>91247177
Anon, stop
You can't fuck a Lego
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>>91247209
Wow.

That escalated pretty fast.
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>>91247131
YE BOIS GET HYPE
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>>91247177
So uh
Does this mean she makes it past ESB? Since Freemakers is set before ROTJ?
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>>91247567
Freemakers is not canon in the slightest

Lego Star Wars has also done stuff With Maul post-ANH, but obviously Maul is dead before that
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>>91247615
Freemakers is sort of canon. They have to show the Story Group everything in the show to make sure no characters or events contradict canon. They've said that it's basically canon but minus the jokes like all the bonus missions in Lego TFA.
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>>91247615
>>91247711
Didn't they say in some interview that the way they create the show is so that it perfectly fits in with the rest of the canon universe?
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>>91247711
are you seriously telling me you believe all that ad hoc lego brick building out of nowhere is canon and that there's yet another fucking sith running around out there? you can't be this dense
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>>91247775
Yeah. Plus even if it isn't canon it wouldn't surprise me if that kid ends up in Luke's Jedi Order anyways as a reference to the show.
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>>91247711
>>91247775

It has to fit respectively into the approved Star Wars universe, but this does not mean its canon.

Honestly, this should be fucking obvious guys, its fucking lego.
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>mfw I just remembered when that one Jamarcus kid posted here
Anyone got that screencap?
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>>91246741
Trying to fix this by making it like CoH. Know scripters?
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>>91240518
Neat
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>>91246775
>Implying SS and SSposting isn't a part of Filoni's supreme scheme to lure you into a false sense of security.
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>>91247901
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>>91248378
Fucking Mega Bloks chads and stacy's
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>>91248378
That's the one
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I know this isn't /tg/, but they're unresponsive and I figure you guys actually know plot and character development

How do I make a good villain that's an Empeor's Hand that wants to become a proper Sith under his and Vader's noses?

I definitely want it to be a thing that he's supposed to kill the party but isn't above sparing/working with them when it suits his goals
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>>91244100
>You got a boyfriend, need a boyfriend?
that line really pissed me off
when george can write romance better than you JJ please consider suicide
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>>91248561
short answer: you don't because that's wildly not canon
long answer: you don't because there is no possible circumstance where an "emperor's hand" type character (an inquisitor for example) could possibly either permit himself or be permitted to work with individuals outside the law (assuming your party is not imperial) without eliminating those witnesses or being eliminated by sheev for failing to eliminate those witnesses
if this character is evil, he is obliged to kill the party
if this character is not evil, he is obliged to be killed by his superiors
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>>91248561
These guys hate Legends. Better to ask tg or reddit. Force.Net is good too
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You goys made sure to buy a Celebration ticket right?
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>>91248924
I should have but now I'm not sure and I think it's too late anyway
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>>91248954
Too late for the 4 day pass
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>>91248924
I don't live in the US so no can do
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>>91248924
>Flying across the country just to go to a star wars convention
No thanks
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>>91248993
And Zahn is a Saturday thing so that's an extra $10 for the ticket and then I found out you have to buy a pass to wait in line to buy the Thrawn pop. Plus it's gonna be totally packed and I hate crowds, but I love star wars so much. I think I'm just going to visit my sister that weekend and we'll watch the stream while baking a star wars themed cake or something
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>>91249032
>not driving
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>>91249032
This, I really want to go but San Diego to Orlando isn't exactly an evening stroll.
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>>91248684
I don't know if you know what an RPG is, Anon, but they don't have to be canon.

Wanting to gain power and usurp the Emperor is pretty evil still. He can allow the party to live if it furthers that goal can he not?
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>>91249088
Sounds oddly romantic
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>>91249032
>flying

WEST COAST FAGS GET OUT OF MY STAR WARS THREAD

REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>91240971
>Force Jesus
>Has a shitty fan base just like regular Jesus
POTTERY
O
T
T
E
R
Y
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>>91249093
That sounds much worse
>>91249099
This
>>91249122
Never
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>>91249119
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>>91248885
Thanks
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>>91249032
I did that 2 years ago (Toronto to Anaheim). Met up with friends who all travelled separate. One of the best experiences of my life. THis year going one day to the con, rest of the trip is with my family, including my just under 2 year old nephew who will be in the con with me and my dad.
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>>91249111
I'm not saying it has to be canon, I'm saying there's no logical justification that Sheev would allow an upstart to try and usurp him and Sheev is EXACTLY the kind of scheming rusemaster who would see through whatever petty plots your OC could think up and exploit them to give this upstart the rope to hang himself with. He is not going to allow anybody to fuck him up, and anybody that tries is going to have an extremely gruesome demise. And that's just with Darth Sidious, not including whatever Vader's up to. If you want to include a dark side OC Emperor's Hand type, you better make damn sure your party is Imperial and your OC has no aspirations to higher station. Mara Jade would get zapped in an instant if she tried shit.

>>91249154
*tips fedora*
*clinks glass of blue milk*
*teleports behind you*
pssh...nothin personnel, kid
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>>91247003
She is cute.
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>>91249266
she's a 7/10 at best
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>>91249285
She is STICC anc CUTE.
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>>91249310
every time you say STICC I will post this
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>>91249330
do I have to read the leia comic for this
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>>91249410
it's the Star Wars Annual #2 which is mainly about Leia, but it's not the Princess Leia comic
and you should read it its actually a pretty nice little story, better than Annual #1 in my opinion

pic related is the Leia comic qt, the Y-wing pilot who survived the Battle of Yavin
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>>91249410
I believe she's from the second Star Wars Annual
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>>91249330
Every time you post this I will imagine SS as a THICC muscle waifu. She'd still be cute.
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>>91249473
of course if you made her voluptuous instead of an anorexic twig skeleton SKELETON HAHAHAHA she'd be decent, but that's NOT CANON
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>>91249511
>not wanting a cute, petite, delicious flat chest waifu
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>>91249663
gay desu
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>>91249713
were three near identical imp nigresses really necessary
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>>91249455
it was very good, thanks for the recommendation
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>>91249785
I ignored black females who were not nappy-headed oil-drillers, such as Senator Tynnra Pamlo from Rogue One
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>>91246775
I hope you appreciate our sacrifice.
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>>91249925
I do, because the more you cry, the faster the "Bring Back Ahsoka Jar" fills up.
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>>91246741
And the ground battles are blatantly balanced in favor of the rebfags
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>>91249948
active battles where you actually play, definitely, autoresolve however favors the computer regardless of faction
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>>91249785
I read "imp" as "chimp"
>>
What if Kanan and/or Ezra survive to attend Luke's Jedi school and then get canonically murdered offscreen by Kylo Ren
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>>91240240
Ay yo hol up Revan is still canon? I thought that the Mouse purged KOTOR
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>>91250067
that'd be even worse than killing them off before ROTJ, we need LESS of JJ shitting on the victory of Endor, not MORE
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She might be STICC but she still knows how to have a good time.

Who needs the Jedi code anyway.
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>>91244724
Plageius vs Snoke when?
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>>91250743
>Plageuis V Snoke: Dawn of Anakin - A Star Wars Story
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>>91244902
>Mfw Anakin turns out to actually be half-Muun.
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>>91244937
Ah, the crazy shit you find in trash compactors.
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>>91249713
I want more black women with straight hair. The curly haircut is getting old.
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>>91250788
>>91250821
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>>91244444
Because duels in Star Wars at their best aren't about Power Levels. They're about spirituality, focus and will.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OrbCHzaNzk

Daily reminder that you will NEVER see shit like this in rebels
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>>91250308
I want her to sit on my face desu
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>>91249122
No. No no no, YOU MUST DIE!
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>>91251140
I want her to do that and much, much more.
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>>91251124
Why are CIS ships so sexy?
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>>91251218
They are literally the best.

My shipfu is a providence-class destroyer.
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>https://www.engadget.com/2017/04/03/scientists-develop-death-star-like-laser/

we Catalyst now
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>>91251087
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>>91251096
I thought they were about who can hit the other person first?
Which makes me wonder, what if one or more of those padawans got lucky and hit Anakin?
Probably would not have stopped the clones, but threw a wrench in Sheev's long term.
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>>91251367

WHERE'S MY FUCKING NOBEL PRIZE?

Also I copyrighted that shit, don't even try to steal it.
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>>91251372
He looked so much better in Ep 2
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>>91251372
War is hell.
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>>91251474
They gave it to me, my superweapon will bring about a new era of peace

you're all welcome
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>>91251474
>Nobel prize for building a super weapon
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>>91251532
The sexual tension in this screenshot is real
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>>91251474
>>91251367
MY ACHIEVEMENT, NOT YOURS
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>>91247798
Naare's as much of a sith as Asajj Ventress was, which was not at all.
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>>91251532
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>>91251659
I like the idea that Tarkin is just fucking up there in terms of height. Gives him more of a presence

You think he ever put his hands on his knees to get down to eye-level with Krennic, just to talk down to him? It feels like something he'd do
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>>91251659
>inches
They're all midgets?
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>>91251704
Shit, I knew something looked retarded when I went to post it
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>>91251275
Providence is top tier.

What's the name of those three engined battleships though? The ones with the thin NebB like section.
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>>91251760
Recuscant-Class
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>>91251560
>Putting Krennic around Heir to the Jedi and Aftermath

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>91251760
>>91251772
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>>91251806
>>91251760

:^]

CIS objectively best governing power.
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>>91251782
He's actually standing just in-front of Catalyst off-screen, but I see the humor in the pic
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>>91251659
When will turbomanlets learn?
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>>91251910
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>>91251910
Its a shame TCW never got to this point like they planned.
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>you will never see a TCW style large ship fleet combat involving an SSD

Why live?
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>>91251953
They were going to focus on Mandalore rather than Coruscant like initially presumed.

Would have been nice to see it tied up though
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>>91251953
>We will never get to see the events of RotS from the POV of other characters like Rex and Tarkin
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>>91251958
If the show goes up to ESB like we believe, it's entirely possible we'll see the SSD
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>>91244100
Don't forget
>That's now how the force works!
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>>91251560
He doesn't say, "not yours"
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>>91252026
Fuck, I cringed just thinking about that line
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>>91244100
I thought he said, "You got a boyfriend, cute boyfriend?"
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"Hello Jango, I'm here to obtain your seed for the cloning process"
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>>91252087
>lip piercing

This meme needs to end fucking soon
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>>91252087
put that away
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>>91252087
>those thighs
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>>91252087
>Thicc and Sticc at the same time
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>>91240240
You forgot about KOTOR III by Obsidian coming out this Friday.
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>>91251953
>>91251962
>>91251975
Please don't do this.
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>>91252084
He did but facts to don't matter to the sheep here.
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>>91250308
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST SAUCE
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>>91252549
>shitty line is one-word different from how anon wrote
>FACTS DONT MATTER TO THESE SHEEP, MUH TFA >;(((
The line is still abhorent
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>>91249713
I thought we were supposed to turn a blind eye to this kind of coupling in the media in favor of meme posting.
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Does anyone else hate the fact that by the end of the year this book will be outdated?
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>>91245004
Shmi is a liar with a terrible gambling addiction.
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>>91252064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoaUjUCQbMo

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
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>>91252916
Thats the price you pay when you buy visual guides for a franchise that is still producing tons of content every month

Ultimate Star Wars was pretty good because its fuckhuge, so its got like, 3/4rds of all canon information, but that is dwindling every year
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>>91252983
oh my bad
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>>91253007
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>>91252137
Is she another one in the middle?
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>>91252698
https://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/2119371#search=Seventh_sister
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>>91252983
Holy shit, Ben was having so much fucking fun with this role

he hammed it up and I love it
>>
>>91253068
Only if multiple clones are involved
>>
>in an alternate universe KOTOR 3 didn't turn into TOR, 1313 got made, Underworld was produced. TCW was finished, Rogue One was a movie adaptation of Dark Forces like originally planned, and Episode 7 was about Kira and Han Solo's son exploring Endor to find Luke's lightsaber which had a hidden map to the first Jedi temple in it.
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>>91253200
>tfw we got cucked by a mouse instead
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>>91253142
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>>91252916
At least the presentation inside is really good.
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What are they talking about /swco/?
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>>91253200
>Continuity is even more fucked
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>>91253412
Reboot was gonna happen even if George didn't sell to Disney.
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>>91253399
Taking Star Wars in the direction of Animorphs?
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>>91253200
>in an alternate universe KOTOR 3 didn't turn into TOR,
Meh

>1313 got made,
Meh

>Underworld was produced.
Good

>TCW was finished,
Fantastic

>Rogue One was a movie adaptation of Dark Forces like originally planned,
That was never the plan

>and Episode 7 was about Kira and Han Solo's son exploring Endor to find Luke's lightsaber which had a hidden map to the first Jedi temple in it.
Could be good
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>>91253399
George is a small guy
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>>91253667
No adam driver is just a fucking giant
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>>91253667
For you.
>>
Hold the fucking phone Empire's End introduced the Republic capital right before Hosnian Prime called Nacadia. The city doesn't allow droid's or speeders in the streets even though it's an urban setting. Its very likely that the Republic defaulted back to Nacadia after TFA. With all that in mind remember those pictures of John Boyega riding that horse thing in those city streets, remember the Story Group saying that there will be even bigger cameos after Rogue One since now movies are being 100% made in the nucanon era, and remember the leaks that say that BB-8 will be with Finn in TLJ (which would add some moments where Finn has to hide BB around this city while trying to find a transceiver to contact the Resistance with).
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>>91253702
Yeah, but Georgie is still a small guy. 5' 6"
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>>91253796
Good catch, sounds very plausible
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>>91253831
Holy shit, I'm 6 inches taller than him?

God damn
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>>91253399
George, Adam driver, and who is the third guy?

I can't tell
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https://twitter.com/starwars/status/848882783820951553

Happy birthday to best imperial
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>>91253737
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>>91253200
>Rogue One was a movie adaptation of Dark Forces like originally planned
So a whole movie based on a single level.
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>>91254048
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>>91253918

I'm probably wrong, but, to me, it looks like Christensen.
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>>91253399
>OY GEVALT WHY WAS MY IDEA FOR EPISODE VII REJECTED, ADAM!
>Lol I didn't sell the franchise for 4 gorillion shekels, neckbeard.
>Oh...
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>>91254018
MY BIRTHDAY, NOT YOURS
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>>91254018
Tarkin having a huge birthday bash on the same day as Krennics birthday and no one showing up to see Krennic

would make a good comic
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>>91254018
>>91254350
This but with Krennic
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>>91254501
Oh I am a laffin

even his deathtroopers, his special hit squad, couldn't be fucked to show up.
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>>91254104
>GRANDFATHER

>I WILL FINISH WHAT YOU STARTED
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>>91247711
While not canon I nevertheless appreciate the effort they go to to tie themselves TO the canon, thus we have General Syndulla sending Rowan, a kid who can build ships with the Force, to Quarrie, the ship designer from Rebels who made the B-Wing, to apparently make them a new secret weapon.
>>
>>91251613
Naare was pretty much an Inquisitor in function and training, more an undercover version which honestly wasn't a bad trick. That said they called her a Sith quite a few times and I think not just the Freemakers, who couldn't be expected to know all the details like the Rule of Two.

At this point the nice thing is knowing that even if Hera dies Lego Hera shall live forever!
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>>91254501
If I remember right, this hit /b/ in the feels so hard that they sent him a bunch of rambling, incoherent well-wishes.
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>>91252087
Best waifu coming through
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>>91255267
ayy lmao

>>91252137
ayy lmao

>>91252116
ayy lmao

>>91252087
ayy lmao

I fap to greys
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>>91255267
It's simple
>you like STICC
https://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1790350#search=Taun_We
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>>91252087
>>91255267
Why are Kaminoans so good looking?
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>>91255407
>Taun We
Wrong
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>>91255546
"we want the ASMR audience"
>>
>/swco/ is finally embracing the hotness/sexiness of Kaminoans

Good
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>>91255952
>finally
where have you been since 2002 family
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>>91255546
>>91255952
Living things rendered in CGI is always criticized as uncanny valley, but I think that actually works very well in the Kaminoans' favor.
>>
>>91247131
Oh shit is that a TIE Phantom?
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>>91256167
It's not, but it looks very similar
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>>91254104

That doesn't look like him at all.
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>>91244584

Daala was always stupid and her survival and promotion were due to plot fiat rather than competence.

She lost three star destroyers in a fucking week. She spent all her resources going to Dantooine to send AT-AT's against a bunch of fucking tribals rather than an actual enemy. She failed to beat the Dac defense force despite the fact that Sheev came back from the dead, beat the shit out of them already, and handed the victory to her from beyond the fucking grave. She had an entire god damned Death Star and couldn't even use it to hit a real target. The Mandalorian weaponsmiths gave her two peerless corvettes and she somehow still got her ass rolled even with them.

Daala is the fucking definition of Imperial stupidity in a way Konstantine couldn't even hope to be. Konstantine let the enemy escape too often and took severe damage until he died. Daala lost ships far more powerful in far greater numbers and was somehow held up as a champion anyway.
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>>91256249
daala practically invented the meme of outstandingimperial incompetence

imps were always hobbled by the totalitarian crab-in-a-pot ideology of the empire, but never to such an exaggerated farcical degree as that, Konstantine and Ozzel couldn't be as shitty as daala if they tried
>>
99% of the EU was a mistake

thrawn can stay
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>>91256377
nu-thrawn is hardly related to EU thrawn outside of the most basic premise, and this is arguably for the better (except insofar as it pertains to post ROTJ content worldbuilding, but let's face it after 30 years we were never getting that shit back)
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Revan when?
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>>91251958
>you will never command a Super-SUPER-Star Destoryer

Why even live?
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>>91256486
>You will never command the EU Eclipse
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>>91256448
Don't worry anon, I'm sure we'll be seeing more of her in the future.
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>>91253128
This picture keeps getting posted, but has anybody ever pointed out that the two floor plans on the right are for the USS Enterprise? You can see transporter rooms on the arm of the chair.
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>>91256551
you expect yaoi fangirls on tumblr to know anything about scifi
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>>91256551
That's why I like it. Nerd shit in my nerd shit

And I like Star Trek a lot
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>>91256697
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>>91256551
That's because Krennic wasn't just the Director of the Death Star program but he was also overseeing Project Astral Journey.
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>>91256353

Daala is literally everything that could ever possibly be wrong with the empire summed up in one person.

She fucked her way to every promotion she ever got, was handed enough firepower to destroy the entire new republic in a timeline where they made actually good ships instead of giving up after a year, chose petty tactics even Tarkin knew would be retarded, lost so many Star Destroyers the entire cast of Star Wars Rebels looks like a balanced and rational military campaign by comparison, and the only damage she ever did to the jedi was entirely by accident on her way to being stupid somewhere else.

And then after years of fucking up in such a drastic fashion Lucasfilm had the fucking GALL to say that she was one of the competent imperials while killing off the rest of the warlords. When Zsinj reinvented the TIE fighter from the ground up to be half as big and Isard managed to deplete the entire NR supply chain in one go, fucking DAALA was the one they picked to survive and represent Imperial cunning.

The fact that Tarkin had even the slightest faith in Daala was proof that he's every bit as retarded as the doctrine he wrote.
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>>91247131
It's like Fifth Bro had a baby with Grievous and it is UGLY, but weirdly cute ugly.

I wonder if he's a cyborg or droid.
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>>91256883
>The fact that Tarkin had even the slightest faith in Daala was proof that he's every bit as retarded as the doctrine he wrote

this is why I hate the EU. Don't fuck with Tarkin, just let him be a competent military leader who made one mistake
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>>91240906
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>>91240906
Revan
Plagueis (I know he's canon but there's almost nothing to him in canon)
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>>91256883
Wow

Good thing the mouse got her
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>>91240906
Captain pellaeon, every sherlock needs a Watson, Thrawn needs a Pellaeon.

After him maybe Tyber Zann, though of course just as an adversary to the Hutts and the Black Sun and not the absolutely fucking crazy powerful entity he was in Forces of Corruption.
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>>91256507
>Starkiller base with two fully complete Death Stars for moons will never be under your command

>you will never explore the galaxy this way

Jesus fuck WHY.
THINK OF HOW MANY STAR DESTORYERS YOU COULD STORE ON A PLANET.
THE POWER WE ARE DEALING WITH IS IMMEASURABLE.
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>>91257152
>Death Star fleet
>SSD to scout ahead
>occasionally blow up planets to resupply
>exploring that way

Star wars expansion to another galaxy via a death star WHEN
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>>91257257
But anon, what about the Vong?
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>>91257323
Those little HR Giger wannabes?
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>>91257323
I'm very glad that I have never read a single piece of EU with the Vong in it.
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>>91240906
And let her live this time.
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>>91257323
The Death Star would have ground the Vong up and spat them out. They even talk about this in the NJO.
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>>91257610
Han took her grave plot
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>>91257610
>SUPER secret red headed apprentice that's HATES Luke and was never even hinted at in the movies falls in love with Luke when she meant to KILL HIM

I'm sorry but that's just.
That's just way too self-insert FanFiction tier for me anon.
I never could accept it.
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>>91257559
>>91257323
I can appreciate giving some kind of higher stakes to the Galaxy and giving a reason for the Star Wars story to continue post-rotj

But Yikes, I am glad we dont have to think about these guys anymore
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>>91257610
I'm still a little surprised we haven't seen Mara, or a least an attractive redheaded human, as an Inquisitor. I guess that's a can of worms no one wants to open.
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here's mine.
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>>91257610
>Luke's Jedi were all killed off-screen
>"i want Luke's Jedi waifu to be canon, and not die" :3
anon come on, thats never happening.

Luke has better women in his sights anyways
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>>91257610
Well we do need another inquisitor who wants to take Ezra as their apprentice.
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>>91257610
I would accept some additional lore in a book or game of some kind with the off hand remark of an agent called Mara Jade.

Her coming back as a character would be so fucking shit, however.
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>>91240906
I still want to see a modified version of the Thrawn Trilogy take place in the years between ROTJ and TFA. We've got Thrawn, we've got Han and Leia having a kid, we've got Luke trying to restart the Jedi. Mara isn't there, but I maintain she's not entirely essential. There's enough in new canon to tweak the trilogy's plot and redo it.
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>>91257686
>I guess that's a can of worms no one wants to open.
Pretty much this.

Filoni is usually very vague with his "maybe" and "eventually" responses to fan demands, but Mara Jade is one of the very few things he basically outright denied a year ago. Seems like the LSG has already thought about Mara, and they have no intention on revisiting her. They likely have completely different plans for Luke, and it'd be kind of silly just to bring her in as some random Inquisitor for Ezra to kill next season.
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>>91256249

Now, now, no need to be so harsh.

>She lost three star destroyers in a fucking week.

Two of them were to the most overpowered, wankiest superweapon in the entire history of Star Wars, the third to a highly improbable sheer coincidence.

>She spent all her resources going to Dantooine to send AT-AT's against a bunch of fucking tribals rather than an actual enemy.

Wasn't that just a live fire training to make sure troops aren't rusty?

>She had an entire god damned Death Star and couldn't even use it to hit a real target.

Other fucks from the Maw controlled the Death Star prototype the whole time.

>The Mandalorian weaponsmiths gave her two peerless corvettes and she somehow still got her ass rolled even with them.

Two corvettes ain't mean shit in Star Wars, even with muh mando'ade.

Really the only case of super fail on Daala's part, at least before her later misadventures as a President or whatever, long after I stopped reading, was failing to beat Luke's order in the most hilarious way, but even that involved Jedi suddenly pulling out of their asses as-of-then unpcecedented levels of power, and literally showing a bunch of Star Destroyers out of the system.
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A-wings at the time of Rebels = Supermarine Spitfire Mk. Ia w/ Merlin engine
A-wings at the time of ROTJ = Supermarine Spitfire Mk. XII w/ Griffon engine

prove me wrong
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>>91257828
Eh, way the Imperial Remnant go down is already to different from what happened.

Besides fairly certain Thrawn is toast next season of rebels
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>>91257942
STOP
POSTING
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>>91258219
>>91257942
>"This will be the end of Thrawn's campaign" says increasingly nervous Mon for the 7th time this year
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>>91258391
Mon Mothma says a lot of shit, though.
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>>91258415
>That Lost Stars chapter where she gave Thane a handjob to calm his nerves and send him to bed like a good boy
Not sure how the LSG allowed that, but I wont complain
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>>91257686
>I guess that's a can of worms no one wants to open.
Basically. There's really no way to fit her in a way that works. She's too deeply connected to existing characters and reintroducing her but avoiding those connections basically makes it pointless to do so. Someone like Thrawn is easier since his only real connection is to the Empire, and to other EU characters. Mara Jade is straight up married to a main character.
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>>91258415
wrong mon

>>91258462
HOW DID SAM RAIMI GET AWAY WITH THIS
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i cant really imagine thrawn dying in rebels, he'll probably get sent away again.

probably to the observatory on jakku
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>>91240240
Vader would wreck that pussy bitch in five seconds

>inb4 cartoonposting
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>>91258628
>Elderly Thrawn is the big bad of Episode 8
Please god make it happen
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>>91258689
yeah maybe he'd let the rebels go again or talk about art

that'd be great
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>>91258689
You know people would bitch

I can see it now 'BABBY SHIT FOR BABYS"
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>>91256995

NuTarkin makes all the same mistakes as Tarkin Classic. Tarkin Doctrine would never work in a million years if you didn't have overwhelming superiority.
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>>91258784
I know. Why is it that they always write the villains failing? For once, I want a story where the empire comes out on top
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>>91258727
No matter what happens to Thrawn, a fuckton of people will be mad.

People will be mad if he's killed off in Rebels.

People will be mad if he ISN'T killed off in Rebels.

People will be mad if he shows up in the movies.

People will be mad if he DOESN'T show up in the movies.

No matter what happens, Pablo's going to have to delete a bunch of tweets, and there will be angry letters and emails.
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>>91257892

She lost them to a superweapon that SHE OWNED.

She'd never have been in that problem if not for her own incompetence.
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>so, how do we justify the badly prepared and organized rebels escaping a full assault from a genius tactician and strike team

>um
>fuck
>FUCK IT JUST INTRODUCE A MAGIC MONSTER WHO FARTS LIGHTNING WHO CAN BAIL THEM OUT LOL
>GENIUS

when did you grow out of this show?
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>>91258867
That's autism

seriously. Personally, I think it'd be a bit lazy if they put Thrawn in the movie (unless they had a REALLY good reason to) but I wouldnt come to this Chinese hiking and botanical online guide to bitch about it

I hate keyboard warriors. You know that if they had to face Pablo in real life, they'd puss out.
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>>91258867
Shit, I'm literally trembling with anger right now, and they haven't even done anything yet.
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>>91258867
>No matter what happens to Thrawn, a fuckton of people will be mad.

This applies to literally everything in Star Wars, so it's not a fucking argument.
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>>91258828

Difference in scale.

The Empire has literally tens of thousands of star destroyers and millions of smaller escort and patrol ships. As much as people bitch about them getting beat too easily on TV those are losses Sheev and company can just absorb and modify their strategy to.

The rebel alliance is never more than a handful of generals with a handful of cruisers at the best of times. Most cells don't even have fighter squadrons and the ones that do struggle to keep them up and running. Every rebel commander is always essentially two losses from complete annihilation at their very best.

An unambiguous imperial victory would completely destroy the rebel alliance beyond any repair. Even just losing Sato's stuff and most of Dodonna's cruisers is such a crippling blow it was equivalent to like half of the whole rebel fleet in Rogue One. If there was a loss bigger than that the alliance simply couldn't recover under any circumstances.
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Remember: don't reply to bait.
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>>91258920
It's a fucking kids show.
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>>91259120
This
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>>91259079
>If there was a loss bigger than that the alliance simply couldn't recover under any circumstances.

Doesn't even need to be that big for me. I just want them to wreck someone in a battle. if they're so fucking god tier powerful, why can't we see that? I guess it's because it's a kids show, but I thought the bendu was kind of dumb. They could have let the main get away, and gotten rid of most everyone else

can someone explain the bendu to me? It just seems like a cheap copout. Though, your theory about a difference in scale does make sense. I kind of agree, but at the same time, I want to feel like the characters are in actual peril. Not plot armour so thick and eclipse couldn't fire through it.
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>>91259173
>can someone explain the bendu to me? It just seems like a cheap copout.

that's exactly what it is, literal deus ex machina
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I wonder if the people who complain about the good guys defeating evil in epic fairy tales are the same people who think the "good guys" lost in World War II, and are butthurt about it.

>>91259173
Did you miss all those times in Rebels (excluding all other Star Wars media in order to give you a snowball's chance in hell to back up your claim) when the Imperials DO gain the upper hand? Particularly in the very last episode?
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>>91259173

What besides Atollon do you even want? The rebels lost a dozen ships and two squadrons of fighters. Literally everything they'd been building for the entire last two seasons besides one modified bulk hauler and a blockade runner is space dust now.
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>>91259204
Bendu was set up as a powerful Force entity in the first episode of S3. I don't think you guys can distinguish between what is and isn't an asspull.
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Superior ship
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>>91259277
>i-it was in the season earlier so it's okay
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>>91259299
get this gay shit out of here
and by gay I mean non-vehicular ships, not referring to the fact that your otp is homo
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>>91259277
>it's okay we said he was a literal god one other time so him showing up is totally justified

>But also it's a fucking kids show
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>>91259277
Nope. He was set up as the middle between Sith/Jedi. Nowhere was it shown he had Old Testament type firepower greater than Palpatine (or teleportation abilities). He is Filoni's Deux Ex Lionturtle.
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>>91259362
If it's a kid's show and it's shit, why watch it?
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>>91259324
so even a retard baiter like you can understand:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov%27s_gun
of course nobody shitposting here actually knows anything about drama, they just think it means the bad guys win and the heros die because they're edgy teenagers angry that mom forces them to go to church instead of letting them watch game of thrones
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>>91259385
I don't
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>force gods

Hope this shit never shows up again. It was trash in TCW and it still is. Fuck off.
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>>91259412
Yeah, I know what a chekov's gun is you moron. Doesn't mean it's ACCEPTABLE, it means it's FUCKING LAZY.

Let the heroes figure out some last ditch way to get out of the conflict, don't have a FUCKING GOD show up.
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>>91259417
admitting you're wrong is the first step to acceptance anon
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>>91259453

That was their last ditch effort.

Did you miss the part where Bendu also murdered a bunch of rebels too?
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>>91259412
He put a gun there in beginning and then pulled a bazooka instead.

Filoni apologists need to fuck off back to Skywalker Rancher or Singapore.
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>>91258642
Cartoon Maul is no match for Vader, either.
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>>91259453
>the definition of good writing is shit based on my uninformed personal prejudices
ok
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Stop replying to the bait
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>>91259491
Did you miss the point where Bendu was introduced with none of these force bullshit abilities. And was just a guy with better insight into the Force and good at hiding himself?
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>>91259529
>dude its bait if you don't like bendu
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Name yours
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>>91259537
did you miss the part where yoda was introduced as a crummy little muppet then lifted luke's x-wing after half an hour of being a worthless bitch
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>>91259581
>lifting something with the force is equivalent to shitting lightning and teleporting
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>>91259529
It's too late. Unfortunately, just like real world threats, you can't just "ignore them and they'll go away." The thread is lost, the baiters have won, unless the mods prune their garbage.
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>>91259422
What's the problem with greater embodiments of the force? I personally like their eldritch abomination potential.
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nooo stop rebels is perfect ;_;
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Why is it that having an opinion is bait around here
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>>91259562
Shitty ill-informed argument-inducing statements are bait and are better off not being in the thread

>dude, im gonna come to the star wars cartoon thread and make a shitty post that literally ends with me calling everyone out for liking the show
>WOW, I GUESS OPINIONS ARE BAIT, HUH
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>>91259580
The Penetrator
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>>91259649
>Why is it that having an opinion is bait around here

First time to star wars general?
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>>91259649
Yes, lets pretend like >>91258920 was a well-meaning post and an innocent expression of opinion, and not someone who came here to try and piss people off/start an argument.
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@91259599
imagine being so braindead you can't fathom the idea of novelty in a fictitious setting

lemme guess, you threw a tantrum when Obi-Wan and Qui-gon used "Force Speed" didn't you? At least until Gary Stu Kyle Katarn made it ok ;^)
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>>91259580
Sheev's Dick
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>>91259691
This is honestly the first time I've meant it when I said this, but Reddit may be more your speed. You can't be more than twelve.

>C-CIVIL DISCOURSE!!!!
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>>91259580
in b4 100000000000000 uninspired pretentious faux-profound idioms ripped off from halo or whatever
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>>91259581
did you miss the part where it took everything for him to lift one x-wing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUKGTkiWik
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>>91259705
Why didn't Luke force speed into Jabbas palace and kill him?
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>>91259705
why didnt obi use force speed to save qui-gon
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>>91240466
I'm a fuck up, just like him.
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>the anons of /swco/ are throwing poo at each other
Well at least the thread is moving
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>>91259751
and bendu basically died after becoming thor, in fact he was killed by an ATAT ordered by Thrawn, but lets keep moving the goalposts so you never have to lose an internet argument shall we?

>>91259735
>gets so fucking destroyed in an internet argument he performs the textual equivalent of breaking down into tears
not even that poster but fucking lelmao that's some top tier shit right there

>>91259768
>>91259820
underrated
>>91259820
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>>91259768

A jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack.
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>>91259875
>and bendu basically died

LOL
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>>91259820
https://youtu.be/t3dI-ghYimg
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>>91259926
does that mean Obi-Wan is still alive? original trilogy confirmed baby shit for babies
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>>91259872
>>91259618
You can always run to the SECRET /COCK/ CLUB!

The /swcock/ thread still exists.
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>>91260048
Bullshit
>>>/cock/
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>>91260084
Try changing the URL, chief. The board and the threads still exist posting is down due to "site maintenance" which certainly solves the shitposting problem.
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>>91260198
Nobody can shitpost if nobody can post! Genius!
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>>91259503
Maul had to be nerfed so Obi-Wan could win.

Vader would not stomp Maul like Filoni and fans think he would.
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>>91260250
Maul wasn't nerfed, he was outsmarted

>Vader would not stomp Maul like Filoni and fans think he would.
I don't know why you think Filoni would think that. Quite the opposite in fact.
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>>91260198
I'll be damned
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>>91257102
This.

>after the Battle of Endor Pellaeon took command of the crumbling Imperial fleet and retreated to another system where they could regroup
>tried to convince the admirals that they they still outnumbered the rebels, and with the rebel fleet licking its wounds back at Endor, they could just swoop in and smash them while they were vulnerable
>admirals tell Pellaon top shut up and get back to his ship
> admirals dither round like dumbasses, till they eventually splinter off into to diffrent fleets to go do their own things
>Empire still could have come out on top if they had only listened to Pellaeon
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>>91259580
Youngling Slayer
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>>91260242
I wonder how the Empire handles shitposting on the holonet. Bounty hunters? ISB hit squad? Inquisitor shows up and whispers, "I know what's in your browser history," before igniting a red blade through the back of the chair?
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>>91260532
Tarkin hurts Krennics feelings and makes him cry, because it's always Krennic complaining about the Grand Moff
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In the new Star Wars canon, is there an Imperial who's genuinely a good person at heart but thinks the Rebels are scum and would never betray the cause to join their ilk?
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>>91260593
There's more than one, but the only one I can recall for certain by name is Ciena Ree from Lost Stars, which is widely regarded as one of the best novels in the new canon.
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>>91260593
Yes, Lost Star's Imperial POV character
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>>91260593
Moff Mors? She seems a decent person in the book, especially once she gets her shit together, yet the Emperor seems 100% convinced of her loyalty.
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>>91260657
>Lost Stars, which is widely regarded as one of the best novels in the new canon
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>>91260703
It is anon.
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>>91260703
It is, which speaks very poorly of the rest of the new SW books.
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>>91260668
Is that one that spent most her time drowning in spiced whine and Twi'lek slave girls? Cuz that sounds like the kinda Moff I want to serve under.
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@91260746
@91260770

hahahahah these guys
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>>91260703
I'm not saying it's the best but I'm saying it's one of the most praised out of the few extant novels there are.
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>>91260793
Yes
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>>91260798
What's your pick for the best novel in the new canon?
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>GOD TIER
Tarkin
Catalyst
Bloodline

these are all you need
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>>91260840
Tarkin
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>>91260855
My fucking nigga

personally, it's too fucking close between tarkin and catalyst, but I respect your opinion
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>>91260793
She's crush you, anon, but you might enjoy it. At least there's a chance she's gone on a diet after getting her groove back.
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>>91260703
>Watch out for that Imperial in white uniform Luke. We used to fight together in the clone war, he didn't really like your father that much however he was a good friend.
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>>91260853
>all you need
yes, ignore the rest of the canon to suit your headcanon

also Tarkin is mediocre and boring, it is an acceptable addition to canon a decent backstory to the character, and by no means bad but it is incredibly dry and only worth reading once
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>>91260908
Name a book that was needed

aftermath doesn't count. The plot was ok, but the writing is so babby tier it makes me want to shove rusty spoons into my eyes
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>>91260840
Bloodline, Lost Stars, Lords of the Sith, Catalyst
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>>91260963
I respect this opinion.
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>>91260840
probably Lords of the Sith

I actually enjoyed Dark Disciple on the whole but being a big fan of Vos from the old Ostrander run it felt hollow (especially Tholme)
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>>91260903
Yularen was so fucking based
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>>91260842
>Double Duty
Poor guy gets shit on so much and now you gotta overwork him too
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>>91260950
dark disciple was needed, but it doesn't really count as nucanon
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>>91260883
>tfw you'll never work for a boss that encourages you to just relax, snort some spice, and get a bj from a qt ayy grill
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>>91260950
>the trilogy with a terrible writing style but vitally important plot points doesn't count
also Lost Stars, Ahsoka, Smuggler's Run, Weapon of a Jedi, Moving Target, soon-to-be Thrawn, and I think that just about covers all the canon books in existence, except Heir to the Jedi, which again is useful and pleasant, but rather mediocre
>>
Anyone have a list of best Star Wars books in general? I've already read the Thrawn and Darth Bane trilogies, along with Lost Stars and Bloodline, so I want to know what else is GOAT.
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>>91261067
>Tarkin
>Catalyst
>lords of the Sith

to name a few, that's all I've read
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>>91260963
I'm not a huge fan of Luceno's writing, the Tarkin novel really put me to sleep, but Catalyst was alright. Definitely worth reading before watching Rogue One.

Only thing I'd add to your list is A New Dawn.
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>>91240240
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>We must ruin the west
What did Yoda mean by this?
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>>91261059
We know Aftermath was vital. I am not contesting this. I was simply saying that while it is important, they gave it to a guy who shoved in his politics for privilege points(tm)

alright, I respect your opinion.
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>>91261067
all the canon ones have been listed in the past few posts already, but as far as non-canon, people tend to enjoy the X-wing/Rogue Squadron books, Han Solo Adventures trilogy, Bounty Hunter wars trilogy, Courtship of Princess Leia, Shadow of the Empire and several others I forget
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>>91260657

I wouldn't really count her. Her entire character arc was starting out idealized and happy but growing increasingly jaded and physically worn as the empire takes more and more from her, as she loses her friends, her comrades, her family, her people, and finally the one memento of her past that she had left, and by the time she's captured by the rebels even after nearly a year of medical treatment she's still a broken husk of a woman with nothing to live for and nowhere to go.

By the time Endor rolls around she's basically accepted that the empire is fucking insane enough to build a second Death Star, and that every other imperial who's made it this far without deserting is so far removed from sane themselves that they think this is a good idea.
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>>91261067
Not The Glove of Darth Vader
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>>91261104
What

what the fuck
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>>91261177
It's an old Legends comic
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>>91261198
I get that. Who saw this and okayed it

this is why the EU got nuked
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>>91261149
Are you sure you read the book? I remember her staying loyal to the empire and being captured at the Battle of Jakku
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>>91261110
He was under the sway of the One Ring. See Yoda used to be 7 feet tall and handsome as shit, but one day his friend Darth Bane fell in a lake and came up with a ring. Yoda wanted it as his birthday present and killed his friend to claim it. 900 years later he's a shriveled toad thing living in a Dagobah swamp still ruminating on his precious...
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>>91261104
CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIN
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>>91261218
That's not actually Maul you dweeb
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>Inferno Squad
>In response to the Death Star's destruction the Empire makes an elite squad to take on the Rebellion
>this book is about that cool as fuck shit

Why the hell isn't this out yet?
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>>91261218
I dunno. I'm all in favor of the EU being nuked, but I actually find that fight/page delightfully edgy for some reason. Glad it isnt canon, but i dont hate that it exist(ed)
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>>91261254
>never read the comic
>couldn't tell it wasn't him all along

ok
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>>91261218
Is it really out of character to say Darth Vader has so little sense of pain or value in his own self that he would stab through his own body to strike at an opponent?
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>>91261254
>calling me a dweeb because I didn't read a star wars comic
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It just occurred to me how badass Leia is in the first movie.

Imagine if the Stormtrooper that came into her cell wasn't Luke and was just a standard Imperial trooper sent to her cell for God-knows-what reason. She was tortured for hours on end by Darth Vader, had her planet (with her parents on it) blown up in front of her very eyes, and was imprisoned with no chance of escape. Her reaction upon seeing the Stormtrooper? To fucking insult his height.

What a tough bitch.
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>>91260282
Isn't that what he said in a interview? That Vader would kick Maul's ass?
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>>91261229
Not him, but by the time of Jakku, she was completely unpatriotic to the Empire, and was only with them still because she was depressed and felt like she had no other place in life, that the only thing she could offer anybody was her loyalty to an Empire she knows doesn't exist anymore, not in any capacity she could be proud of anyways.
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>>91261218
To be fair, it wasn't meant to be canon in the EU, but apparently Leland Chee said it was.
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>>91261229

The original question wasn't just loyalty, but thinking of the rebels as scum and being the kind of idealized officer that imp fanboys keep claiming exists but never does.

That just plain isn't her. She's loyal, and does her job, but by the end she's just seen too much of the empire to ever actually think of it as a good thing.

Which is the direction they're going with the empire in NuCanon. Zaire was the same shit and it took longer, but Kallus was eventually the same way. So did Thane. So's Wedge and Hobbie. Obviously so is Biggs. So was Sabine. The list goes on.

The idea that an imperial officer can see what happened to Alderaan, or look at all the slavery and suffering directly caused by the empire, or see how they tear planets up just to convert them into munitions factories and meat for the grinder, and be both enthusiastically in favor of that and a good person is simply impossible. I mean even Ciena Ree only really stayed loyal because she didn't see most of the rough shit Thane did that caused him to defect.

The amount of mental gymnastics that would take would earn a gold medal no matter how you look at it.
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>>91261383
I don't remember any such interview where he said that. Just that he did initially intend for there to be fight in Rebels, but it never worked out.

Filoni is not one to talk in power-levels. Theoretically, Maul heavily outskills Obi-Wan, but Obi won that fight instantly because he outsmarts Maul.

Vader and Maul would probably have been a longer fight though, but Vader would still have won in the end, for obvious reasons.
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>>91261375
for that reason, Luke wanted to fuck his own sister. It's why he exiled himself in TFA

Makes more sense than him jobbing hard to Ren
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>>91261450
It winds up working out because that's not "really" Maul, or if it is it's explained in-comic. It's a sort of reanimated spirit given flesh. The comic itself never goes into much more detail than for the spooky Dark Side guys to say "There are ways that those who are no more may live again," a line that Sheev later repeats when he comes to get Vader. So it's spooky Sith voodoo.
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>>91261450
It was in Tales, which started out as a bunch of freeform stories that weren't all meant to be canon, but some apparently were, and later on the series started dispensing with the goofier stories and the what-ifs and just became a straight anthology series.
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>>91261375
Yeah, Leia's always been a pretty damn strong character, and she never had to overshadow her male castmates to achieve it either. (Ok, except for the first scene with Luke/Han, but we'll let that slide, it's a great scene)
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>>91261481
Well yeah it's called "my country right or wrong." People don't (or rather shouldn't) automatically assume the entire German people was intrinsically evil because they were accomplices to the Holocaust, but there were very few Heer who survived WWII without feeling any sense of guilt.
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>>91261590
Well that whole scene was to show that Han and Luke were in way over their heads breaking in to the fucking death star, and to show how competent a commander Leia really is, but it by no means diminishes Han and Luke because it makes THEM grow as characters. That's good writing.
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>>91261632

The empire isn't a country, that was the point of Ciena and Zaire's respective arcs. Ciena's tribal community and Zaire's colonial city were both essentially destroyed by the empire to become drones that exist only to mine materials and process them into TIE fighters. People join the empire out of loyalty for their respective nations, or planets, or systems, which are loyal to the empire. But then as those places are run down they see the machine for what it really is.
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>>91261787

Luke gets to save Leia on their escape a few minutes later, and they all need to rely on R2 to save them as well.

That's the difference between Leia and Rey. Rey beats up both guys flawlessly, screams at Finn she doesn't need help, and then Finn's only contributions are to essentially be a vehicle to hype up Rey.
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>>91261844
Well the differences lie in that Leia is a clearcut character, whereas Rey very much relies on her past to explain things about her person (which is a mystery reserved for 8 and 9, which weakens TFA)
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>>91261939
It's going to be very hard for the next films to retroactively make TFA better
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>>91260250
Maul couldn't even beat a padawan Jedi in Obi-Wan, he's not going to beat a Jedi Master who has fought on the front line of the Clone Wars and personally killed numerous Jedi Masters easily.

Maul would probably piss himself in fear, like he did with Palpatine.
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>>91261968
I'm not saying it's going to make TFA better, but it can pretty easily make Rey better and Finn especially because he goes off to do his own shit in TLJ
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When will we start seeing the Thrawn novel spoiled? It comes out a week from tomorrow.
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>>91262018
Hopefully not before I can read it

I live two steps from a B&N, I'm hype
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>>91261939

I think it's obvious how sophomoric Force Awakens writing is, when literally two thirds of the main cast's only background is "has a mysterious backstory, then had a crap life they want to escape from". We all act like Rey's past is important but if she didn't exist then that'd just be Finn's problem so not much would really change.

It's known in basically every writing circle as a BS excuse to write a character without having to make the calls that define that character. To have a literal majority of your new heroes ride that pony past the finish line without any revelations of substance shows J.J. just didn't care.
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>>91262045
Considering we got Empire's End of all things spoiled up to a week prior, something as hyped as Thrawn will probably be out completely by Wedensday.
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>>91262102
Why do they spoil it before it comes out?
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>>91262050
I don't think Finn has a mysterious backstory though

besides that shitty writing with Phasma I thought he was the strongest of the new protagonists unless you count Kylo as one
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>>91262018

Probably only a few days from release. The way these things happen is that copies have to go to thousands of stores and a manager won't care an employee goes through one ahead of time, or buys one under the table before release. Since publishers know this they usually don't ship too far in advance. I remember working in a Wal-Mart and games and books would only even be shipped to the store a a couple of days before launch so they could be put up on shelves by the day of. Some of them are even so super duper seekret that they're completely covered with nothing but a label telling employees not to open them until the day or night before.

The only other way it could happen is if say, someone at a printing place snuck one out of the factory floor when nobody paid attention. The crates are sealed between there and the store.
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>>91262050
JJ obviously didn't care, but Rogue One shows that Lucasfilm can save the ST
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>>91262144
Finn's a weak character with a strong actor. It's not an Oscar-worthy performance or anything but Boyega was really the only reason a character as dull and poorly thought out as Finn worked at all.
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>>91262139
Review copy holders post their findings so they can be special until the book comes out and everyone reads it for themselves instead. Of course people here have to take the spoilers from off-site and throw them all over the thread either way.
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>>91262144

He has a mysterious backstory in that his entire character revolves around being kidnapped as a child and not knowing where he came from. He doesn't lean on it too heavily compared to Rey but it's still a big unresolved thing.

Finn is probably still the strongest of the four, but that's because Poe is kind of bland, Kylo Ren is a whiny manchild, and Rey is a Mary Sue. The idea that he's something even slightly resembling a rounded character is like a breath of fresh air by comparison.
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>>91262202
Same with Poe. The only reason people like him is because he's played by oscar fucking isaacs
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>>91262216
>Kylo Ren is a whiny manchild

This shit again? That's not an actual complaint. Driver actually gave a shit.

Just because he's not the kind of antagonist you wanted doesn't mean he's a shitty character.
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>>91240240
I miss the Traviss mandos, though SW Rebels has partly brought canon mandos back up from the fuckerey that was the Clone Wars episodes about them. And yeah at times she wasnt the best writer ever but her books+the RC game are what really got me into the Star Wars EU
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>>91262216
>Kylo Ren is a whiny manchild

Fucking face it, you would be too if Snoke had been in your head saying you are a monster since you can remember
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>>91262202

Most of the ST cast actually has good actors. Adam Driver has been in a bunch of high profile artsy films and proving he has range, and his normal way of speaking is actually more intimidating than anything he did in TFA, that was just his shitty direction. Oscar Isaacs has good acting chops too. John Boyega basically saved Pacific Rim 2 from what I hear since that movie was in development hell until he came aboard.

Pretty much everybody in the cast except Daisy Ridley has an entirely different accent and pitch from their character and everyone outside Rey who wasn't good can be blamed on J.J. giving terrible direction.

The only exception is obviously Ridley. She has no range and Rey is just her normal speaking voice and tone.
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>>91262273
>I miss the Traviss mandos
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>>91262258

Adam Driver did the best he could but there's only so far you can polish a turd. It'll be shiny but the second you go into it it'll break apart like every other turd.

>>91262275

Justifying something after the fact doesn't make the film itself good.
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>>91262368
Okay well throw away the entire rest of the fucking OT because they didn't explain everything in ANH I guess
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>>91262344
Skirata was the best merc father figure though
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>>91262368
>nothing outside of the movies allowed ONLY THE MOVIES ARE CANON
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Driver in TFA was about as good as Vader in ANH
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>>91262334
I don't think Ridley is that bad. I do think her character, as we know her from TFA, is basically doomed to forever be boring and uninteresting.

Lets see if Lucasfilm can work a miracle.
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Sheev>Tarkin>Vader>Dooku>Ren>Maul
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>>91262538
>Tarkin
what the hell are you ranking?
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>>91262578
That is my ranking

I'm objectively right
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>>91262538
In terms of enjoyability to watch

Maul>Vader=Sheev>Dooku=Tarkin>Ren

Maul is just fantastic to watch. You're either getting some pretty intense choreography, some sadistic Sith scheming, insane ramblings, or the inevitable hilarious failings.
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>>91262412

They explained enough for ANH in ANH. You don't need to know everything about the force. Just what Obi Wan tells you. It can respond to you and guide your actions. Which is how Luke blows the Death Star. You don't need to see the entire animated series to have context about Vader vs Kenobi. They were friends, and now they weren't. The things that happen happen due to rules the movie sets up well ahead of time. Vader is a simple character but he never needed to be anything more in the context of that film.

Kylo Ren on the other hand is someone they tried more with an failed to establish any of it. They keep saying he has this call to the light and that he has conflict but he remorselessly orders a village executed and shows no real conflict over the actual actions he displays in the film. When Han confronts him about it there's no real sense anything will come of it unless you're attached to Han from previous films, because there's no question about Ben's actions outside of a metaphysical sense.

I mean hell, even Darth Vader in 7 is kind of out there. They don't establish him as being that great or powerful, he's just a nameless broken helmet. The NAME Darth Vader doesn't even come up in the film until the climax when it's meant to mean something, and that's so long after the fact a new viewer who doesn't know Star Wars may not even make the connection.

Kylo Rens entire character is predicated on the idea that you're already attached to the franchise going in, and that you'll be buying the sequel when it comes out. That's why TFA did mediocre numbers in countries that didn't have lots of people grow up with the movies.
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>>91262485

If you're talking about a role in a specific film only that film matters.

Spinoff Han Solo doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from OT Han Solo. It's not Harrison Ford on the screen. Alden Ehrenreich is the one who has to stand up on his own merits.
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>>91262620
>They explained enough for ANH in ANH

They explained enough for TFA in TFA. He struggled with killing his father you doofus. That's why he was shot, he obviously struggled internally with it. Did you even watch TFA? It's definitely near the bottom of my list of favourites, but damn, you missed it.
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>>91262620
>and shows no real conflict over the actual actions he displays in the film
>keeps saying he has this call to the light

Are you saying you wanted him to let someone go or something? Because he's afraid of his conciousness, he's not going to be merciful or anything.

He orders the village to be killed and then feels bad about it later.

>Kylo Rens entire character is predicated on the idea that you're already attached to the franchise going in, and that you'll be buying the sequel when it comes out. That's why TFA did mediocre numbers in countries that didn't have lots of people grow up with the movies.

TFA had a lot of shitty lazy nostalgia pandering, but Kylo's character having to do with the legendary public reception of Vader was very smart.
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>>91262699

If it were a good film they'd at least offer a line of dialogue about who Vader WAS.
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>Rey will be a clone of Vader

fuck off with the vaderwank lucasfilm
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I always see two kinds of Star Wars fans.

The fans who judge movies ONLY by the specific movies and whats in them.

And the fans who take everything else into account, even retroactive retcons or additions from future movies, or books, ect.

I personally fall into the latter. For example, it's hard not to see ROTS as a better experience (even if you already like the movie) when you take TCW into account, because it feeds so much into Anakin's development.

It seems kind of weird to me, in a franchise that was making retroactive retcons from the very second movie, that people will still focus solely on the movies with a case-by-case mentality. I mean, I GET it, but it almost feels like you're trying to critique the movies in a way that isn't quite intended.

Star Wars adds so much content retroactively, changing entire perspectives, and developing characters much more than what you might initially see in the first release of a movie. I tend to look past the flaws of an individual movie, if it fits very well into the overall saga and experience.

That being said, I do think TFA is set up to make it VERY fucking hard to salvage. Specifically, the characters of Finn and Rey.
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>>91262273
>I miss the Traviss mandos
Stopped reading there
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>>91262855
Thanks for putting my opinion into words
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>>91262855

There's a difference between an ok movie that's made a bit better by side material and turd polishing.

I mean shit, what justification is there for Kylo Ren in other material that isn't just more Turd Polishing? That his mention in Aftermath somehow makes Wendigs turd better? That the era he's in is made better by the worst NuMarvel SW comic? That the worse of Claudia Grays two NuCanon books says a bunch of stuff is happening offscreen while contriving the republic being even more useless than the prequels?

The ST era is literally just Turds all the way down. There is no shining great thing you can point to and say "this makes it worth it". There isn't a golden example of what it could be anywhere and there's no indication that Last Jedi is suddenly going to turn around and be the movie people want it to be.

I have no problem with TCW adding context to ROTS. I think the prequels gave Vader a bit of character, even if only in a mostly flawed way. I think the KOTOR and Tales stuff added cool lore to the sith. But the stuff after ROTJ is literally nothing but turds.
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>>91262273
>though SW Rebels has partly brought canon mandos back up from the fuckerey that was the Clone Wars episodes about them
(You) obviously quit watching TCW the moment they told you some were pacifist, because Rebels Mandos are an extension and expansion from TCW Mandos.
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>>91263001
So what is your opinion on Catalyst/Rogue One

I am fucking dying to know
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>>91263039

Nothing about it got me excited enough to read it. There's other stuff to watch and read besides Star Wars and I have other Star Wars stuff on my list that's higher up even if there was.
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>dude like a character with 30 minutes of screentime fucking sucks forever lmao

just kys idiot. vader was like a skeletor minion in ANH when it came out. stay mad
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>>91263080
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I like Tarkin more than Vader and you all can't stop me
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>>91263001
Well yeah, the Sequel Era is in a huge slump right now, but in its defense, Lucasfilm is yet to put out their first proper ST movie that wasn't just a JJ ANH rehash produced by Bad Robot.

Things might seem a bit grim for that Era and characters now, but Lucasfilm at least deserves a chance to fix things.

So far they've had barely any connection to the ST beyond a few nods in the books, and the Poe comic, so the fact is, it's simply too early to tell.

It's not like the Prequels where ROTS came out a decade ago, and we've since had 100+ episodes of TCW to sit on and enjoy, and see how the PT Era is actually pretty solid.

It would be like judging the entire PT Era based only on TPM, and some comics. Think about that. There wouldn't even be any clones by that point, nor any real development with Anakin or Obi-Wan. If we only had that much to go by, we'd be writing off the entire Prequel Era too.

There is a LOT they can do over the next 4 years in 8/9, and the surrounding media, that can salvage what JJ left Lucasfilm with TFA.

My main problem is with Finn, who JJ has left impossible to salvage. He'll forever just be the goofy comic relief who occasionally kills Stormies and hollars and shouldn't really be there. Rey is going to be very difficult to salvage (but not impossible)
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>>91263171

Tarkin is cool. He has one of the best novels.

The only bad thing about him is Daala. But you don't have to care about Daala.
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>>91263220
Wasn't she nuked with the rest of the EU?
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>>91263212
>very difficult to salvage (but not impossible)
I am so curious as to how you think this. I find her to be flatly one of the worst SW character that has been created even in the EU, and definitely the worst seen in the movies/TCW/rebels
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>>91263282
>definitely the worst seen in the movies/TCW/rebels

man oh man
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>>91263212

Actually I got into SW in TPM era and it was the tie in novels to that that sold me on Star Wars. My dad was into Outbound Flight and the other OT era tie ins but it was the novels with just young Anakin and Obi-Wan that really gave me insight into Anakins character. Rogue Planet was probably the one I remember the most.

That's the thing. There were good novels IN THAT ERA to fall back on, even if you didn't like the film itself.
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>>91263232

I never get why /swco/ has this weird obsession with canon. The best comics are a decade plus old. Rogue Squadron was fucking awesome and Stackpole managed to transition it into a fucking awesome novel series. The fact that Stackpole isn't doing anything in Star Wars now is a fucking war crime.
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>>91263212
Finn salvation idea
Teams up with Chewie, eventually becomes a smuggler after the war? It's lazy but it might work. Would need to write him better, but could work as a poor man's Jim Rockford reluctant hero with a smart mouth.

Again, would need big writing change but could work.
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>>91263282
She can still have a character arc over the next 2 movies that can make her interesting.

Whereas Finn's character arc was just "lol i was raised for almost 2 decades to think all these guys were my family, but im gonna kill them now while trusting some random malicia instead LOL"

Finn is only tolerable to watch because Boyega has enough charismatic charm to carry him through the movie without being despised by the audience.

Rey is bland and boring as fuck, and some of the shit they had her do in TFA was just offensive. But the fact is, it's entirely possible for them to make her interesting in the next two movies, and surrounding media. Her character arc has not even really started. She still has a chance.
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>>91263410

In all honesty I'd like him and Poe to be the pilot/gunner team on a next gen Y wing. It keeps him relevant to his one skill and gives him a reason to be in the same spot as everyone else without him suddenly becoming a big deal when he shouldn't be.

I don't see him getting along with Chewie that well, and that's fine.
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>>91263373
I am of the opinion that if you like it, more power to you. But I think her stories just served to make Tarkin weaker as a character, so I don't like to think of her as actually existing.

But if you like it, don't let me stop you from liking it. There simply has to be some uniformity.
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Finn should become a doctor, because he realizes that killing for the resistance is no different than for the order

character saved
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>>91263415
>Whereas Finn's character arc was just "lol i was raised for almost 2 decades to think all these guys were my family, but im gonna kill them now while trusting some random malicia instead LOL"

except he goes to the first order base in TLJ so they obviously are going to play up his history
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>>91263448
That'd be a good idea.
Was thinking Chewie route because of them not getting along well. Over time they get closer though. Plus would allow Lucasfilm to still use Chewie.
Like yours better though.
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I'm pretty pissed that the only thing we have right now for ST era besides TFA is that lame Poe comic and a few books.
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>>91263449

Oh no, Daala was fucking cancer and I'm glad she's gone. That was just a comment about the general as a whole. If you try to talk about anything from before 2014 you get blank stares.
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>>91263504
>not waiting for them to reboot it with TLJ

come on
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>>91263491
Well we shall have to see how that goes then. I hated how they rushed through it in TFA
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>>91263496

Chewie honestly should either step back or just lead people who aren't main characters. He was here because of Han, and now Han is gone.
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>>91263507
I think you simply have to take into account how many fucking normies are into star wars now. I am no 'I liked it before it was cool!' type of person, but someone legit told me last week that they hated Rogue One because 'it didn't have any Jedi in it'. That was their argument. You just have to find the right people to talk to about it. Most of the shit is out of print anyway, so it's hard to find people who are into it these days, because it's harder to find. Here, I think we should have some agreement on what exists, and what doesn't. Disney did the right thing, I think, nuking it.

Just find people who like it, and have a discussion about it.
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>>91263604
>they hated Rogue One because 'it didn't have any Jedi in it'

I've heard decent arguments about why people didn't like it. That is not one.
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>>91263504
Give it time, ST era is not even 2 years in. Wait until film trilogy is done.
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>I hid myself while I tried to repair myself
What did Maul mean by this?
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>>91263604

Even so, that's not really what imageboard culture was like until a few years ago. This used to be the kind of place where if you wanted to be a fan of something but didn't know basic shit you'd get laughed at. The line was always to just git gud and read the sticky. /co/ was always a bit more freeform about that but every major character has a reading list you're usually expected to know and the list of actually good Star Wars comics isn't that hard to get.
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>>91263604
>>91263664
>hating because it didn't have any jedi

I have a friend with this mentality. If it doesn't have Jedi in it doing acrobatics, then it's not Star Wars.
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>>91263706
>This used to be the kind of place where if you wanted to be a fan of something but didn't know basic shit you'd get laughed at. The line was always to just git gud and read the sticky. /co/ was always a bit more freeform about that but every major character has a reading list you're usually expected to know and the list of actually good Star Wars comics isn't that hard to get.

Sounds pretty fucking autistic and cancerous. More like gatekeeping. That's exactly what Reddit is like now, though. Hunh.
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>>91263664

To be honest Rogue One felt like it had the same kinds of problems as the prequels. Gareth Edwards had a general idea of what he wanted but he went too far in a lot of spots and the film suffers as a result. You can't really defend Jyn Erso beating like five stormtroopers with a mall cop baton flawlessly or Tarkin managing to target Krennic exactly with the Death Star and sniping him.
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>>91263724
It was the same guy who told me "I'm a total Star Wars nerd! I know nearly everything" and then proceeded to tell me books were for nerds and that extended canon doesn't mean anything

I'm so tired of people doing it for fucking nerd points
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>>91259580

Frank Exchange of Views
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>>91263756

Where do you think you are? Invoking reddit means exactly as much as calling someone a hipster did five years. Jack shit and you're a faggot for thinking otherwise.
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>>91259580
Big Ship For You
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>>91263792
Jyn was part of Saw's milita for years.

Tarkin wasn't literally targeting Krennic, he just happened to be on the dish.

Did you even watch the movie or did you just look at the reviews?
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>>91259580
TIE Fighter
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>>91263373
>I never get why /swco/ has this weird obsession with canon.
Because that's the new stuff coming out and this general began as a general about primarily Rebels.

> The best comics are a decade plus old.
Some are, e some aren't.

> Rogue Squadron was fucking awesome and Stackpole managed to transition it into a fucking awesome novel series.
It was.

>The fact that Stackpole isn't doing anything in Star Wars now is a fucking war crime.
Maybe he just doesn't want to? He's not written for Star Wars in ages.

>>91263507
>If you try to talk about anything from before 2014 you get blank stares.
Incorrect,

>>91263604
>Disney did the right thing, I think, nuking it.
Lucasfilm did that.
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>>91263836
>>91263836
>>91263836
New thread, you may embed yourselves in it
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>>91263706
Plenty of people here have read the older stuff though. In fact, I'd wager the majority have. This is /co/ after all, so naturally a lot of posters here have had experience with comics pre-2015 Star Wars. Myself included, some of my earliest Star Wars memories involve reading the comics.

The reason people talk more about Canon is because, by definition, it's actually relevant going forward, especially when the main focus of these threads is our current ongoing canon cartoon. There's nothing wrong with this, its just natural that the newer and more relevant stuff is going to be talked about more often.

If you want to discuss older stuff, nobody is stopping you. That other anon talking about Daala with you is proof enough that if there is demand for it, there will be someone lurking around who will understand what you're saying, and join in. There have been countless EU-centric discussion in these threads. Hell, we even have a Legends recommendation guide in the OP, for any anons who may want to actually go back and try out the older stuff.
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