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What made this show so good? Its music is beautiful, and the

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What made this show so good?

Its music is beautiful, and the backgrounds are breathtaking. The atmosphere is, for lack of a better word, comfy. The story has a very good classic fairlytale vibe with its dark tones among some relatively innocent characters.
What did you like the most about OTGW?
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>>91224720
All of the above
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>>91224720
>What made this show so good?
It ended before it had any chance to suck.
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Favorite song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28aWl4cu9KU
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>>91224720
It was made by people who love animation for people who love animation, and not for money, ratings or toys
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>>91225049
What other cartoons, current or older, can say the same about themselves?
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>>91225252
The only one I find that meet all these criterias is Duckman and I still wonder how it got 3 (4?) seasons
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It was condensed enough not to be filler.

Subjectively I liked the Americana themes and influences
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>>91225044
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fMsowmxKzA
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>>91225408
Whenever I travel to the countryside I take this OST with me. Putting this while you stare at the stars in the middle of a field is fucking amazing.
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What's the best way to watch OTGW? As a series, one or two episodes per day, or binge watching it like a 2 and a half hour long movie?
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>>91225044
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJeeA_O88Zw&ab_channel=Nurpus


I think one of the greatest reasons why I love this series so much is because I'm a huge /out/fag. I grew up in Minnesota, spending a lot of time on the arrowhead/north woods of the state with my family, relatives, and friends; at cabins in the middle of the wilderness.

It's the same thing that drew me in to Gravity falls when it first started. I fucking love the American North woods
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>>91225548
I binge watch it every 1st of January morning with my friends after the party, all sat near the fireplace at max comfy levels
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>>91225548
with a SO. Sadly I haven't experienced this.
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>>91224720
It's slow paced and charming on a channel that hasn't had anything close to it for years.
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>>91225408
Fucking this.
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>>91225561
>It's the same thing that drew me in to Gravity falls when it first started. I fucking love the American North woods
I've never been to America, but I also have a passion for woods. Unfortunately for me, the best forests in my country are in the north and my family is getting tired of me taking us there every summer.
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>>91225408
what episode was this in? I don't remember this at all.
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>>91224720
The iceberg effect it had. Cartoons doesn't have this. That's usually reserved fro well-written novels and rare kino.

it opens up with exploring an unknown mystical world and after a while it carries on to explore the main characters. We find out that everything has more or less a point and the ending ties it all together.
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>>91225697
Pottsfield. When Wirt, Greg and Beatrice are forced into community service.
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>>91225694
What country man? I know Europe has some amazing forests as well.
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>>91225832
Spain. Best forests are in Galicia and Asturias; where I live in it's an hour long car trip till you start seeing some mountains and forests. Those are nice too, but are very dry. Northern forests look like a jungle and have a pretty diverse fauna.
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> favorite song
> anything but Potatus et Molassus

well my catcha said it for me: STOP BLAND
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What is the name of the kind of boat they ride in episode 6? I'm not from the USA and I have a feeling those boats are part of America's history
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>>91224720
I don't know why, but I've always loved the detail of Wirt wearing mismatched shoes.
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>>91226050
steamboat.

I live in a river town that borders the Mississippi and they still have steamboat rides.
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>>91224793
Pretty much. These days, any cartoon would be lucky to have such a privilege.
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>>91226059
I feel like an idiot for either not noticing before or noticing but having forgotten about it.
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>>91225044
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlIJBWBIGS4&list=PL6hR0DvRYOl1GaMZ0gTRiYKn8clam7Oc7&index=26

This one is so depressing and haunting.
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>>91226118
Thank you for the information. Just thinking about a ride in one of these gives a tingling sensation in my stomach
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>>91225548
If you're watching it for the first time (and have the self-control), I'd recommend two episodes a day. It's easier to savor that way, in my opinion.
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>>91226298
I've watch it around four times already, two as a series and other two as a movie. I wanted to know how you guys enjoy it better.
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>>91224720
Probably that it was set to finish.
The story could be all set out and organised ahead to the end, not as much pressure to rake in ratings to ensure a second season, less episodes to spread the budget out on etc.
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>>91224720
>What did you like the most about OTGW?
The fact it had a legitimately evil antagonist, one that we don't have to sympathize with or have a humorous side to. It was very refreshing seeing a villain taken seriously.
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>>91226808
His voice was great as well; as refreshing as his character. Has his actor played any other villains?
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>>91224720
The thing that made it stand out above others was that it didn't spend time explaining things and presented situations 'as is' rather than an elaborate world lore for spergs to go on about constantly. I liked how it skirted the line between dangerous folklore and irreverence and that it ended when it did.

Too many shows have been continued beyond their natural ending and I can only imagine the absolute nonsense it would become if it went on.
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>>91227204
The Beast's voice actor is an opera singer who is used to play the devil no some operas. The crew for this show wasn't joking around when they did OTGW. They clearly made it out of passion.
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>>91228903
Damn, that's pretty cool. I wish I had a voice that resembled the devil's.
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>>91224720
Brevity.
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Because the writing is perfectly crafted. Each episode was well paced and overall there was a good sense of drama and propulsion. It was very well done.

An expert could go into detail here, but even a layman senses when this is done well, since the story stays with you. Trust me OP it's the writing.
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>>91225252
The Thief and the Cobbler

It's actually really tragic. Not the movie, the story behind it.
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>>91229091
If you're a baritone, and since you're probably a man that's probably true, then you've the appropriate vocal range for a villain in most operas.
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>>91224720
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The voice acting and sound design were great, I think.

The theme was amazing too, it's easy to fuck up the whole "IT WAS ALL A FAIRYTALE" thing but they did it right.
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It's cute, didn't overstay it's welcome, and really tapped into the fall atmosphere. Something barely anyone does.
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>>91225369
By being fucking good and layered.
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>>91229954
I still wonder what Williams' original vision would have looked like, as opposed to the failed salvage operation we got.
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>>91224720
Everything in this cartoon is good, it's a piece of art. Definitely it's best cartoon of this generation (post adventure time). The character are the better part of this story.
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>>91225044
This one, Into the Unknown, and Langtree's Lament are all regular parts of my set as an acousticfag.
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>>91225044
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuraZs-aKx8
It's a really hard pick, but this is the first thing that comes to mind. That's if we're counting proper lyrical songs, my favorite piece of music might be The Journey Begins, but I can't find a clean rip of it on youtube.

I wouldn't say it's my favorite, but highly underrated song, one of the ones I listen to the most
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeVre94_Cx0
I can understand why everyone forgets it, it's easy to not even notice when you watch the show, but it's a really great song.
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>>91225049
>Love animation
>Still used lazy noodle limbs and stiff 3/4ths posing and framing on everything
This is the product of the cal arts cult. They had pretty backgrounds but the animation was just as atrocious as anything else modern.
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>>91225893
>an hour long car trip
Eurofags lmao. An hour trip is close m8. You could spend an afternoon there and be back before dinner
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>>91224793
this is a bigger factor

it had a story
it told it
then it fucked off

not driven into the fucking ground
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>>91226808
Agreed. He's easily one of the best CN villains.
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>>91234895
The best one
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>>91224720
It had focus. It had a story to tell and it did.

The music and the art made it all better, but mini-series tend to be better than syndicated shows because of focus.
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Is cartoon network ever going to do something like Over The Garden Wall again? Develop another cool and funky one shot mini series?
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>>91236755
What incentive do they have?
I'm skeptical they broke even on OTGW
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>>91236755
That Long Live the Royals came out the next year after Otgw and was the same min series format but it bombed, no one even talks about it at this point so I think CN probably thinks they got lucky with this one and its too risky to do again.
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>>91236755
Maybe infinity train will be one if we're lucky and it turns out good.
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>>91224720
it really wasn't, old stale jokes and it copied everything from Dante

reddit tier garbage, like most of what CN spews
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>>91237638
>copied everything from Dante
Not really.
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>>91237665
It's literally Dante's inferno tho

Wirt is Dante, Greg is Virgil, first episode is the entrance to hell, second is limbo, each episode after is a ring of hell, eventually they get to the last episode and meet The Beast (Satan)
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>>91237638
>reddit tier garbage
Don't you have multiple threads to cry about Rick and Morty in right now?
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>>91237539
Hate to break it to you Anon but it seems very unlikely

The pilot was released 5 months ago, and usually after the release if we don't get word on if it's approved within the next few months, we can assume that it didn't get picked up.

The only thing to come out of it was CN announcing they would air it, at six in the fucking morning when most people were asleep. And it didn't break a million views.
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>>91237738
No, I'm glad that Jack got canned, I hope its goen for good

Jack was shitty muh edgy writing pandering to nostalgiafags
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>>91237733
So what's the problem.
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>>91225408
Came here to post this
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>>91237775
I did not expect this response.
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>>91237792
Dante's Inferno is a shit piece of writing made up by a old italian retard who was high on crack, the entire "story" is just 2 deep 4 u religious bullshit about what happens if you don't listen to the skyjew
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>>91224720
My favorite thing was realizing that they are from the present day and that it's all a near death dreamland.
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>>91224793
The candle that burns quickly, burns brightest.
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>>91237808
I mean, Prick and Memey is worse, but at least this way I get to laugh at btfo'd Jackfags
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>>91224720
Its a comfy book lite show
Also the Dante references were cool as fuck
Glad to see AT alumni did great stuff
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>>91237824
Jeez, you're trying so damn hard just to insult some 700 year old poem that none of us care about. Do you really talk like that or are you just pissed that your teacher's making you read Dante's Inferno?
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>>91237824
if you actually knew anything about Dante, you would know that the Inferno is only a third of a larger work called the Divine Comedy, but I'm guessing that doesn't matter to you in the slightest because you'd rather read something 'deeper' like Thus Spake Zarathustra
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>>91237886
You realize it was an april fools joke and the episode is scheduled to air on wednesday right?
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>>91234029
He said till you start to see mountains and forests. I presume the good forests are a couple more hours, unless anon's family just doesn't like car rides.
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>>91237759
Lakewood Plaza Turbo was originally put out in 2013 and it's finally confirmed as a series 4 years later. It takes time to know whether it's going to be picked up or not.
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>>91237824
No, it's actually revenge porn about how all people he hates will suffer in afterlife and all people he likes will be rewarded in heaven. He's a mean and bitter man.
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What I really loved about OTGW was that it was steeped in uniquely American imagery. It would have been easy to go the European fairy tale route that's been done a thousand times before, and it might have been just as good for it, but OTGW took a less traveled road and delved into uniquely American folklore that's actually quite young, young enough that it's barely had to become mythic.

So young, in fact, that I sort of have a hard time describing what it is I mean when I talk about this aspect of OTGW. It's the feeling of something similar to a Mark Twain story, I guess. Steamboats and schoolmarms, very early jazz, plantation-style mansions overrun with kudzu, 1920's rubber tube cartoons, harvest festivals with pumpkin carvings and corn husk dolls... That sort of thing.
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I wonder what kind of story you could have gotten out of OTGW if it was aimed at a more adult audience. Don't get me wrong; I love it as it is and I think that the best way to tell it is as a dark children story, but I can't help but think of how much it would have changed if it was directed for adults.
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>>91238867
There is a high probability that OTGW was censored by the channel (the author said they were supposed to be 18 episodes) because there are parts of the story that were cut down, such as the story of the black turtles, the conversation between the Beast and the woodcutter In episode 7, and episode 6 was supposed to be two episodes, one about the ship and another about Adeleide.

The comics seem to be completely canonical according to the author and apparently are cut out chapters of the original story. Some dialogues even take on a deeper meaning after reading the comics.

Finally ... the author said in an interview "it was very difficult not to leave Wirt in the unknown" so it seems that the real end of the story was that Wirt would stay in the unknown with Greg back home. This agrees with the divine comedy where "Dante laments that Virgilio can not go with him and Beatrice to heaven because he is a pagan," curiously Gregory corresponds to the Latin name Virgilio.

So ... was it an end too dark to separate the brothers and have our protagonist officially dead?
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>>91232022
This
Fall is a severely under rated season, I guess everyone sees it as a kind of inbetweener season.
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>>91238176
>"America has no culture"
>OTGW is absolutely swimming in Americana
You know, if more North American cartoonists actually got outside of the big cities for once in their lives and did some in research on the countries history and folklore we could get a fuckton of good cartoons.
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>>91241010
america LIKES pretending it has no culture because that vindicates the unfulfilment they have from selling the means of production to Mammon
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>>91233270
Well, the "recobbled" edition comes pretty close. There are a couple scenes that are just storyboards and sketches with voice-overs, but overall it's watchable. I'd say that after 40(?) years, having an 85% film isn't too bad.
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>>91237315
>I'm skeptical they broke even on OTGW
They're going to air every Halloween season from now until the end of time, so I'm guessing they'll break even in the same way they "broke even" with Scary Godmother or Disney with Halloweentown.
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>>91238176
Another thing you'd need to take a look at are the musical influences. They span from Southern funeral marches to colonial shapenote singing. My mom (a music teacher) listened to the soundtrack with me in the car and she kept pointing out influences. It's really great how much love for history is in this. If only they'd used a less modern artstyle


>>91241028
the US was founded on enterprise, commie dimwit
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>>91225548
I watched it for the first time when there was a blackout at my house. So, I'd say that the best viewing experience is in chilly candlelit room with a mug of tea.
Very atmospheric.
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The music is the real star. I really enjoy the comic stories but they just can't reach the same heights without that soundtrack.

But everything else is still good. The writing, characters, the whole visual aesthetic. The music is just what pushes it to near perfection.
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>>91242275
I'm jealous. That sounds great.
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>>91237733
>It's literally Dante's inferno tho
>12 episodes
>9 rings
First of all, the math doesn't add up.

Second of all, confirmed for never having read any of La Commedia because none of the episodes parallel the divine comedy in any ways other than circumstantial (eg She-Wolf and Dark Wood in Canto I, frogs lying face-down in mud in Canto IV).

Third, just read through La Commedia. The whole thing. People always skip over Purgatorio and Paradiso, but they're actually fantastic. The Catholic church has a fascinating history and you'll wind up more enriched for having done it.
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>>91224720
Scary moments. I am not really empressed by all other stuff.
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>>91242310
The creator talked about the deliberate parallels to Dante's Inferno in tweets and podcasts. I can't find them offhand but a quick google of "Patrick McHale" and "Inferno" turns up this
facebook dot shit slash events/502547969921083/
So yeah, the parallels to Inferno were deliberate.
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>>91241010
>America has no culture
Usually because American cultural hegemony means that "American culture" just seems like "regular culture".

Rock & roll, blues, jazz, and professional wrestling are all as American as they come, but the thing is that they're so ubiquitous now that people would only notice their absence if they went way out of their way.
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>>91240789
Can I get a source on that interview?
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