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What made this show so fucking good? What'd you like about it? What'd you dislike about it? EMH thread.
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>>91218087
It pulled from every era of Avengers history and mashed it all up into something interesting. It's one of the few Marvel shows that really seemed to be aware of how much Marvel material is out there to draw on.

What I disliked is that because they were snapped up by Wolverine & the X-Men, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch could never appear on the show. Scarlet Witch in particular had to be written out of a lot of the stories they adapted.
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>>91218087
It was okay. Animation was weird though
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>>91218312
Eh I had a feeling if we got that season 3 we would have got Wanda at the very least since that would have introduced Dr Strange and continued the Enchantress plotline.

That said there wasn't any story arc that I felt was lacking the twins, Hank and Jan were really good characters for a change.
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>>91218312
So the issue with the new avengers series is that they disregard the comic's history?
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>>91218087

First season was pretty good with each member getting equal billing.

I rather disliked season 2 for becoming a Cap-Can-Do-No-Wrong show.

I also hated Hank becoming Yellowjacket. He should have quickly ditched that persona then switched to the Scientific Adventurer in a red jumpsuit instead.
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Played on the strengths of marvel before Disney
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>>91219918
But anon

Cap really can do no wrong.
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>>91219918
>I also hated Hank becoming Yellowjacket. He should have quickly ditched that persona then switched to the Scientific Adventurer in a red jumpsuit instead.
EMH Yellowjacket was glorious. It's what Comics Pym should've been. He was a masterful troll like this gem with Agent Brand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzzpqecbDOc
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>>91218087
A Carol so good the comics swiped her wholesale. rip butters/fazekas/gages run
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>>91218087
It was painfully mediocre on it's good day.
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>>91221123
I can't help but feel it would be funnier if they showed a teeny tiny explosion after he shrunk the bomb down.
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i agree that the animation was weird, but it also gave it character. emh didn't feel like it had an agenda, unlike ultimate spiderman, avengers assemble, and gotg. avengers assemble and gotg seem like they were only created to synergize with mcu. their characters seem bland and the writing is uninspired. best episode is pic related.
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>>91222173
This episode should have had Mockingbird

And I'm still mad that they had Keaton record lines for this episode and then replaced him with Drake Bell
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>>91218087
It was made by people that gave a shit, and didn't care about movie synergy.
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>>91222173
i was so exited watching this episode with my brother
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>>91218087

it hurt we'll never get a Marvel show as good as this any time soon.
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>>91221123
Yellowjacket was cool, but it was somewhat sad to see the evolution of Hank from a pacifist, idealist, scientist to a jaded, unhinged vigilante.
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>>91224563
remember he is bipolar anon-kun
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>>91218312
This, but also the fact that it was the last time the Avengers were untainted by the MCU.
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>>91219918
Blame Jeph "Only focus on Iron Man, Cap and Thor" Loeb who thought kids couldn't handle story arcs.
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>>91222336
Apparently Mockingbird was supposed to be in that episode. When the beacons lit up for the New Avengers, there is one extra on the map than there are characters.
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>>91224563
I mean he was probably going to get better.
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>>91224699
I'm just mad that we never saw her again after Secret Invasion.

She didn't even show up for the finale.
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i should really finish watching A:EMH, but i can't remember where i left off
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>>91218087
>What made this show so fucking good?

rotating cast kept it always fresh. That's what makes Avengers seperate from JL, the core team will always be changing and it keeps it fresh
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>>91219146
animation was great, far better that JLU at least
>>91219918
Yellowjacket was fucking great. He just didn't get used enough and didn't get a redemption arc cause cancellation
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United They Stand> Earth's Mightiest Heroes
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>>91224632

what about Jarvis in the show?
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>>91225148
start from episode 1 again then, it's all good.
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>>91218087
I didn't like the Galactus episode
Also, Wasp was the first time I was attracted to an animated character...I didn't like that feeling.
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>>91226347
Galactus was terrible but blame that all on them just saying FUCK IT to the final episode cause they new they were cancelled. Also it's why it had no tie ins to anything else, just grabbed whatever character they felt like it and crammed down a finale
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>>91226347
emh wasp is so superior to comic wasp
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>>91226471
That isn't exactly a difficult accomplishment.
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>>91219526
That, and it's clearly MCU-bait.

Can you imagine Avengers Assemble doing a Korvac story, or a Kang one, for instance, if they aren't appearing in the movies soon?
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>>91226347
>>91226692
>We'll never get a reimagined Wasp solo based on EMH
>We're forever stuck with Nadia Pym
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>>91226736
not to mention the animation is super shity
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>>91226388
Galactus was foreshadowed in the Skrull arc and I think he was always meant to be the finale, but they had to rush it hard.
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>>91226347
It had some hype momentos, like Thor facing Galactus or Reed, Hank and Tony doing súper science together, but it was rushed as hell. It was forshadowed, but it definetly lacked buildup. For the finale it felt lackluster. They should have gone with Surtur
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>>91218087
>What'd you dislike about it?
when Loeb got on board
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>>91227014
that man have an uncanny ablity to turn everything he touches into shit
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>>91219397
where did you get this info friend
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>>91225771
Iron Man and Hulk are technically supposed have the mcu origin
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>>91219397
there was concept art for season 3 that featured an x-men team up.
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>>91227152
besides changing vietnam for midle east iron man origin its the same in the mcu and in the comics
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>>91227192
That wasn't concept art, it was just fanart from someone that worked on the show. He also had art of wasp as captain universe, cap and morbius fighting baron blood, and of rom.
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i often hear that season 3 was gona involve dr strange and magic anyone got a source ive never found it
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I'm in the minority here but I honestly didn't care for the GOTG episode that everyone splooges about. It was neat doing a Korvac saga with the modern Guardians but Star-Lord's voice was fucking shit and none of the other Guardians got to do much. I'm not sure Warlock even got to talk.

Still better than the GOTG cartoon though.
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>>91228358
>but Star-Lord's voice was fucking shit
It's literally the best voice to date for animated star-lord. The only voice that captivated his personality before the MCU shit all over it and turned him into a man-child.
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>>91226736
>Can you imagine Avengers Assemble doing a Kang story
They did.
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>>91228481
That looks so badly drawn
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I rather have Avengers EMH season 3 than Young Justice
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>>91229537
this, YJ is "fine" and is extremely fanficy and the bad kind

EMH is amazing and fanficy but those rare good kinds you find
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>>91225784
I like your way of approaching things!
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>>91229537
I never liked Young Justice, so I agree
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>>91228358
>Star-Lord's voice was shit
>voiced by fuckin Master Chief

You kidding me? This was before we got the slacker adventurer MCU Starlord where this Starlord actually had an understanding of his role in the galaxy. Also it's better than AA Starlord where they got Ron Stoppable's VA and didn't even tell him to change his fuckin voice. So we had a Starlord with a really squeaky teen voice and don't forget Master Shake's VA voicing Rocket.
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>>91229537
After how badly Loeb and Man of Action ruined EMH, I disagree.
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>>91229779
>Also it's better than AA Starlord where they got Ron Stoppable's VA and didn't even tell him to change his fuckin voice. So we had a Starlord with a really squeaky teen voice and don't forget Master Shake's VA voicing Rocket.

Also insanely stick in the mud Gamora.
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>>91224663
I like the mostly episodic format though. Multi-episode story arcs in cape cartoons can end up feeling as bloated as comics events and I end up losing interest.
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>>91229862
But instead, you get a show that forgets character development. Like how Cap was the only one caring about original Hulk during the Red Hulk stuff when Hawkeye and Wasp were much closer to Hulk.
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>>91230220
But that cap was a skrull
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>>91231025

I think he means the episode where Hulk goes after Cap blaming him for being captured by Ross, whereas it was Skrull Cap that had tricked Hulk in turning himself to Ross.

I remember that episode and I know what anon is talking about. Wasp and Hawkeye pretty much attacked Hulk while, somehow, forgetting they were the ones that got closer the most with Hulk while they were bonding as a team.
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>>91228358
the best crossover betwen guardians and avengers to bad gamoro coudnt apear caus eof her sexynes
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>>91229537
>patrician taste
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>>91228953
Pretty much on par for the entire rest of the show then?
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>>91228389
>>91229779
DnA Star-Lord was a clown not a stiff boring space marine.
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>>91229537

B-b-but the shipping and fanfiction :(
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cared about the marvel universe outside of the cinematic universe, kinda like how comics were when most people were actually reading comics
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What storylines would you like to have seen adapted in the show? I think annihilation would have been great. They sort of did that in the prison 42 episode, but I would have prefered it to be bigger, and involve the guardians and the alien empires previously seen on the show.
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>>91218087
It has the best carol

See
she can work without the butch lesbian disposition or the try hard civil war leader


She should be written more like Hal Jordan Green lantern than Wonder Woman
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>>91225722
>animation was great, far better that JLU at least
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>>91229779
>>voiced by fuckin Master Chief

Holy shit I didn't even realize this until I read that.
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>>91229537
agreed. But objectively YJ managed to get teen drama right, plus the animation was great
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>>91234426
really? you think shitty JLU animation was good? Holy shit, how redpilled are you? It was terrible except for a few seenes, like the ones with Green Arrow.
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I thought season 1 of EMH was pretty damn good, perhaps on par with some of the DCAU shows.

Season 2 was decidedly weaker but still pretty decent.
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>>91218087
I dont recall much but i was stoked when Beta Ray showed up, visually its not that good but had lots of decent episode stories with lots of characters thrown in ,hated Tony Starks voice , Wasp was fuckdorable. I also really loved Carols portrayal in the show.
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>>91229537
wastent avengers assemble the follow up to EMH? also anyone got or know of a tor for season 3 of avengers assemble i can only find single episodes here and there
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FACT: The theme song got better every time you heard it.
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>>91235664
The theme song sucked anon. Worse thing about the show.
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>>91234991
AMH animation feels fucking clonky. It looks like it was my by a movie animator. JLU kept the Bruce Timmy's glorious artwork from BTAS and STAS. You can also notice that whoever drawn AMH took inspiration on Bruce Timm' body modèle and did it worse.
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>>91235664
When I first heard it was like
>/co/ told me this show was good?

but over time I loved it. Shame they ruined it in season 2.
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>>91235664
I think it sound so cheap and made the show cheaper than it already is
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>>91235993
That was because the lead singer raped some bitch, so they didn't want to be associated with the song anymore.
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>>91235664
It was pretty gay actually
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god damn this show was the tits
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Badass action, fun characters that, honestly, feel like they were pulled right from the old comics, interesting and complex story arcs that were still very straight forward
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I like the MCU but I hate that marvel thinks its the end all be all of their franchise and that everything needs to be based on the movies
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>>91235173
Stop posting Wasp.
It isn't right to find a cartoon character attractive
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>>91234140
This

Why can't they just make this I to comic
Why does she has to be a wannabe dictator Butch lesbian

Its Insufferable
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>>91224699
>>91225007
Mockingbird was supposed to join the Avengers but her voice actress was too expensive so they dropped the idea.
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this show could've been one of the greats, its a shame that marvel decided to sabotage it
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>>91238607
My brother watched parts of EMH, and while he was never a comic book fan, he fucking loved Kang. He asked me about Kang in the comics (which is like the worst possible thing a casual would want to know, next to Hawkman's origin and Xorn's everything). That's how well the show did Kang.

Kang was more menacing and threatening in one episode than Thanos has in his two? three? appearances so far, even though they try to hype him up.
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>>91238775
Fucking preach, they took all the good stuff and left out all the idiocy that can build up over 50 some years of a character's existence.

nobody gives a fuck about a crazy confusing character like kang, hell, look at the leader. a massive joke of a villain since the first time he showed up but gamma world was amazing. From Beta ray bill to wasp to the freaking masters of evil this show was great!

THIS SHOW GETS ME HYPE
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>>91238635
>>91234140
>butch lesbian
All right, I'm getting fed up with this.

Have you ever actually seen a dyke? What exactly about the costume screams "butch lesbian"? Is it because they dropped the shitty domino mask? Is that the deciding factor here?
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>>91238995
Pretty sure it's her new haircut
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>>91238995
The costume's great, I actually like it better than the old one, it's the craptastic hairstyle and Anka drawing her like a very masculine man.
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>>91239032
>>91239072
That makes sense.

Carry on.
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>>91238995
>butch lesbian
its referencing her demeanor of the try hard alpha leader and of course her hair
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>>91238995
the way she's drawn these days makes her look like one
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>>91235705
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>>91226347
>>91226946
honestly feels like the Kree arc was supposed to be a 3 or 4 parter finale after wrapping up the skrull arc mid season but they hit fuck it in the end after realizing they were cancelled and Loeb banning any multi-arc storyline.

Something EMH was famously loved for in season 1. See the Asgard arc,masters of evil arc, ultron arc, Kang or gamma world. Fuck Loeb honestly.
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>>91229537
Am I the only one who liked YJ? Like shit during the DC reboot they were the only ones who kinda resembled the DCU I grew up with minus the identity crisis- Didio endorsed cancer.

It has captain marvel be captain marvel. Bat-dad being awesome as hell. Wonder woman living from WW2 to the present. Zatanna being hot as hell AND Black Canary being a badass.

We have a captain atom be in charge of the league without being an utter dick as well. Black Lightning actually shooting black lightning. IDK I know you guys shit on it for the shipping but it had a lot of good as well.

That flash episode with 4 speedsters was my favorite.
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>>91218087
It had a lot of respect for the source material, while also doing some fresh things my favorite being how Hank and Jan were characterized.

BUT, there's a very clear dip in quality that starts happening after the Secret Invasion arc is over in season 2. The storylines afterwards felt increasingly rushed with not as much nuance in character interactions as the stuff that came before it. Very inconsistent. Also noted for when Jeph Loeb became head of animation. Anticlimactic ending in that final episode as well.
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I've never watched Powerless, because /co/ said it was that bad. Should I go back and watch it, or am I better off having never known?
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>>91241980
If Man Of Action is writing the episode, you don't watch it. I remember all of his ones particularly being bad. Other than Jeph, he's also as responsible for the inconsistent quality of the show post-Secret Invasion.
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>>91241742
>Am I the only one who liked YJ
Yes.
I got sick of all the teenage drama, felt like I was watching a damn CW show
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>>91238930
What episode is that from?
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While we'll never get a 1:1 match of EMH Janet in the comics, Larraz's is pretty cute.
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>>91243078
I think that's the 2part episode before the Galactus finale
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>>91241980
That episode was pretty bad anon.
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>>91227014
>hey lets back track Kyle and Yost for MAN OF ACTION!
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>>91238512
Indeed.

Anyone have the long version of this?
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>>91218087
I liked it because it was the Marvel Universe I remember and not SJW-Marvel
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>>91228481
this show has the most inconsistant artstyle of any cape show, atleast EMH set its mind on making the characters look like their Silver Age/Bronze Age versions AA but seems to have a terrible mix of MCU/Comics/Ultimate
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>>91235937
Characters in EMH atleast have different body types
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>>91224563
Chalk it up to PTSD and massive guilt after Ultron nearly nuked the world. No surprise Hank developed an alternate personality that was more edgy.
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>>91218087
Can you imagine a Thanos out of this cartoon? I just know he'd be better than Thanos in Avengers Assemble
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>Do you want to know why I lead?
>It is because I am better than you.

Can we all agree that this version of Zemo was GOAT?
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>>91241961
To be fair, it's because the animators found out it was getting axed so they had to wrap up quickly.

It pains me that we never got a 3rd season involving magic. Surtur was supposed to be the main villain since he had Enchantress as his thrall.
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>>91218087
>What made this show so fucking good?

It took the JLU formula and applied it to Marvel.
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>>91225618
It's moments like EMH Pym giving Baron Strucker a Shoryuken that makes me wonder why can't the comics treat him with respect? Even the MCU gave Pym more dignity and props than the last 15 years of stories.
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>>91241570
It's fucking hilarious cause it's so true. At work during breaks I was watching it with some co-workers. And after the first few days they were singing that song.
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>>91243191
>T'Challa getting knocked out by a headbutt even though vibranium absorbs impact
Okay, I don't mind Doom solo'ing against the F4 and the Avengers because he's master at preptime and no slouch in combat, but this is an insult to Black Panther.
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>>91243819
correct. Both companies should stop being afraid of utilizing their universe
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>>91241742
YJ is great, but it really can't stand next to EMH, that show was in another league. And YJ is very cringe at times with all the edgelords
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>>91243896
Fuck Black Panther, Doom is a beast
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>>91242041
>>91243134
yeah...but...WHO THE FUCK IS MAN OF ACTION? Seriously? was that a studio or some child who thought he could be a writer and made a fake name to hide his age?
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>>91243941
I agree that Doom is one of the most dangerous beings in 616 Marvel, but T'Challa is one of the few people that Doom grudgingly acknowledges as someone worthy of respect as a fellow king and intellect.

Doom should've taken out Black Panther out another way instead of completely forgetting the fact that the vibranium-mesh suit shrugs off concussive damage.
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>>91243874
Have you read Rage of Ultron yet? Remender handled Pym very well in that book.
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>>91243900
>target audience is older and not making everything kiddy for the children yet still keeping it accessible to younger viewers
>bringing on comic writers to write the episodes
>focus on overarching plots with single episode arches to break things up every once in a while
>fluid animation and emphasis on hard hitting action
>hot females

It's a good formula.
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>>91243095
At least we have Hope in the movies. If they're going to bring back Janet in Ant-Man & the Wasp, I think Kate Beckinsale would be perfect since she resembles Lily.
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wasp wasp wasp wasp wasp wasp
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>>91243896
you forget that Doom's armor is enchanted. enchanted w/ doom dont give any fucks.
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>>91243984
>Having Ultron fuse with Pym and pretend to be him
That's not exactly how you treat a founding Avenger and a guy whose been kicked to the curb for decades
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>>91244163
I know Doom's armor is on-par with Tony's, but it's still a bit crude for Doom to headbutt an opponent, much less a guy wearing Vibranium mesh.
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>>91244195
But it was done with love in mind. And then he was told to love himself which neither Pym nor Ultron can do, so he/they shut themselves off. It was bad when he showed up in Avengers, but it has potential under a writer with heart. And I don't think any current writer at Marvel could do it.
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>>91243896
>>91244238
I think that's nearly autistically nitpicky, even for /co/
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>>91244195
That wasn't in Rage of Ultron, though. Rage of Ultron was meant to be standalone and somewhat non-canon, as evidenced by the fact that Spider-Man dies in it.
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>>91244386
>Spider-Man dies
you idiots are still using that as a non-cannon argument? even though Pymtron shows up in an Avengers book? wow, you are a fucking moron.
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>>91243666
The only characters with the same body type in that picture are different versions of the same character.

Compare Wonder Woman to Hawkgirl to Star Sapphire.
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>>91218087
Avoid Action Comics. The other two are all right, but I definitely prefer Superman to Batman.
Don't listen to Superbro fags saying that all it is is nostalgia pandering.
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>>91244753
Wrong thread DC shill
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>>91243078
It's from the 3 part Kang arc in season 1.

The Avengers are going to space to fight Kang and end his invasion but Kang tries to hit them with the huge energy weapon from his Damocles base. So Thor throws it back at him
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>>91245248
man, I loved when they let Thor go all out in that show. He fucking took on entire fleets of enemies
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>>91243986

it's a winning formula yet no executive thinks this.
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>>91244238
>And I don't think any current writer at Marvel could do it.
Ewing and Waid, maybe.

Waid is one of the few writers treating Hank well, I have hopes for him writing Hank meeting Nadia
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>>91243956
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_Action_Studios
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>>91244386
>Spider-Man dies in it
No he doesn't, learn to read.
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>>91247488
I love Ewing but I doubt he would bring the needed heart to the story. Waid maybe though...

>>91248006
so the only good thing they did was Big Hero 6...
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>>91244386
retard, that was an artist error. we've been over this like 2000 times
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