Damn....this was so fucking dark. THIS is why I watch Rick and

Loli Beth a cute

It was fake, though. As far as we know Rick's wife or whatever just left because of his bullshit, and we'll definitely never know what really happened. Think about it this way, with all the multiverses and alternate Ricks we've seen you'd figure there would be at least some evidence of her.

>>91217090
>I feel so intelligent for watching it
Lol, ledditors are so stupid

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>>91217910
>grabbing the obvious bait

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>>91217090
see
>>91217760

See what you have done.

>>91217886
The implication seems to be that most Ricks either choose to leave their family or drive them away and end go off to join the Council of Ricks.

Our Rick didn't.

>>91217090
>you now realize Rick wants the sauce because it was his Beth's favorite

>>91218218
Is that what you got? It seemed our Rick was the one showing blue jeans rick the portal gun and when blue jeans stayed with his family other rick got jealous dropped the bomb and killed them

>>91218218
Yah, the implication is definately that Rick cares way more about his family members than the average Rick. Of course, way more than "nothing" may just be "a little".

>>91217886
We don't know that though.

Remember that episode with Unity where Rick attempts to commit suicide, but before he does it he lies to his family that it didn't affect him at all. We're then shown Rick's side of things, how it really did, before going back to Jerry and the rest of the family (representing "normal" daily life) not noticing it at all.

Or how every time Rick does something that changes anything, he forces the world to return to the status quo in order to avoid consequences despite the fact that no matter what, consequences are part of life - as shown with Morty's shock at not just having to bury his own corpse, but dealing with the fact he did something horrible and doesn't face any repercussions whatsoever. (And how the realization of how miserable that is makes Morty seem less Mortyish and more like Rickish) It seems to me Jerry and Morty's rejection of Rick seems to stem from a desire for authenticity - a world without consequences is not authentic.

It may not have happened exactly as it was portrayed, but that doesn't necessarily all of it didn't happen. Rick might be trying to convince himself it didn't happen, or trying to trivialize it so he could live with himself.

>>91217090
Wait a minute, how old is Beth? Shouldn't she be an early teen by 1998?

>>91218265
"You can't alter details in a memory". The whole sequence is 100% false, none of the events depicted could have ever happened. Because, if they had, he would not have been able to alter them.

>>91218354
he probably aged Beth down to make the memory more 'convincing' and to line up with the bug's expectations if it isn't a case of the animators not realizing
the house is Walt's house from Breaking Bad so I'm sure everything else is fake as shit

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>>91217090
It's fake, Rick wouldn't let even that one dude see his real backstory, and he says it's fake himself.

I loved this episode, the Mulan chicken mcnuggets sauce is even a real thing, you can see commercials of it on Youtube still. I really loved the ending, with Rick just antagonising Morty with his "I don't really care about you, I'm just taking over the family, I totally don't care about anyone and this was all for personal gain!!" speech, which really shows a fuckload about his character without needing to directly tell the viewer the truth.

>>91218396
You totally can though. Memory isn't a permanent storage. Whenever we remember anything, our mind reconstructs the memory, which is partially why any graphic memory we have of anything is hazy at best.

Anyways, I never thought of that guy as a scientist. He seemed more like a politician to me.

>>91218471
In their world, the rules are that you can't alter a memory. Then, Rick says you can alter whatever you want when it's made up. Not "yeah, but i'm so awesome I alter memories" or "That's where you're wrong, bitch".

>>91218471
You're trying to mix "real logic" and "Rick and Morty Logic". Rick and Morty flat out confirmed you can't alter the memories shown through the brain-scanning machine. Rick showed very clearly that NONE of it was memories, it was a fake set he thought up still inside of that knock off Denny's. Both the bug dude and Rick confirmed that memories can't be altered by someone in the brain-scan machine, and those two are probably some of the most knowledgable people when it comes to that machine, given one of them works directly with it and the other one is Rick, who can literally hack the machine with 3 lines of code through trickery.

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>>91217760
IT BEGINS

>>91218396
>>91218628
>>91218630
You can't alter what's IN your memory, but they weren't IN his memory, they were still in the "Schoney's" part of his brain.

Just because parts of it were altered doesn't mean parts of it weren't based off what really happened.

>>91218680
>Episode flat out tells you thing
>No, it can't be that way, it's wrong!
You aren't very bright. This is why Superman can disguise himself as Clark Kent with just glasses. Everyone goes into reality denial mode.

>>91217090
Dude it was a fake memory Rick made in order to take control of the situation.
We have -zero- proof any of this really happened.

>>91218646
>Shad's too wrapped up in Roblox based legal troubles to make something
I think we got lucky

>>91217090

Did you miss the part where he said he fabricated it

>>91218468
But Rick may be just using that as justification for what he did in order to absolve himself of dealing with his own personal issues. (Like when Rick rejected crying when Evil Morty!Rick questioned him) Like I said here >>91218351 Rick probably has problems dealing with consequences. Rick may have masterminded this to get rid of Jerry, but he might eventually feel something as off and trying to fenangle a way to bring him back while totally being tsundere about it

Jung said something along the lines of the repressed unconscious "shadow" mind is not necessarily the "true" mind. The repressed "human" side of Rick may not actually be his "true" personality, but neither is selfish asshole aspect a "false" one. It's a mix of both. The moments in which his humanity is expressed may not reveal who Rick "truly" is, but it's undeniable to see those aspects of him as part of who he is in a multifaceted sort of way

>>91218415
Or maybe the animators just modeled the house after Breaking Bad, without intending anything. Remember, everything in Rick and Morty is made up on the spot, and reading too much into little trivial details can just be reaching

>>91218628
>>91218630
The scientists were also confused at how Rick could manipulate the Shoney's cerebellum world. Why couldn't he manipulate a memory?

But that doesn't matter, as this anon pointed out >>91218680 what if it was just based off something that really happened? I mean why the fuck would Rick go out of his way to make up some bullshit memory to someone who obviously doesn't give a shit about it- why doesn't he just fucking do a memory where he portrays himself as an amazing intelligent genius man, but instead portrays himself as pathetic and trivial. Those morons would have believed anything. The details of the pseudomemory may not have happened exactly how it did, but it may be a hint to what may have really happened, or at the very least an insight upon Rick's perspective on his own past and himself.

>>91218980
>What is presented in the show is wrong! I know the REAL facts!
Holy shit, R&M fans are the dumbest people in the planet.

>>91219154
>The details of the pseudomemory may not have happened exactly how it did
>but it may be a hint to what may have really happened,
>or at the very least an insight upon Rick's perspective on his own past and himself.
ie, it may not have actually happened, you dipshit

You faggot nignogs who whine about the show are just as bad as the fucking redditors who reduce the show to memes (haha mr meeseeks is sooo funny), because that's exactly what you're doing.

>>91219154
>We should take Rick completely at his word that the whole thing was made up and his entire revenge scheme is about that sweet sweet Mulan schezwan nugget sauce, after all he's never lied about anything before or given us any reason to doubt his word or his motivation before.

>being this assblasted about tonal subtlety
IT'S A CARTOON

You're an adult man watching a cartoon, don't act like a purveyor of high art, you massive faggots.
I liked it- I watch cartoons to be amused. Rick's dark turn presents new opportunity for humor. Even if he up and rapes Morty, I think it'll be funny.
It's not a medium for discretion.

>>91218354
Maybe Rick was going to a different memory as a segway. It doesn't mean that what happened in the pseudomemory happened in 1998

>>91219306
No-one is saying the show is high-art. The OP is just trying to trigger the anti-R&M memesters.

>>91219353
I thought he was just being normal sarcastic.

>>91218680
You just need to understand what the show is telling you. The show tells you, through 2 extremely reliable characters, that you can't alter your memories. Rick says that it wasn't a memory, and was 100% fake, and they were still in the Schoneys. If Rick was remembering things, he wouldn't be able to alter them, therefore what we saw wasn't memories because they were altered. If they were real events, he couldn't imagine them, he would remember them instead.

You can say "oh, the show gave us several scenes deconfirming this but I'll believe it anyway because I feel like it!" if you want, but that's no better than the "X character is in a coma and dreaming the series" meme.

>>91219430
To be honest, I can't tell the fucking difference

>>91218980
>The scientists were also confused at how Rick could manipulate the Shoney's cerebellum world. Why couldn't he manipulate a memory?
You need to watch the episode again, you're fucking up everything you're saying. "Dumb Scientist A" was confused at how Rick could manipulate the Shoney's... because he assumed it was a memory. When "Scientist B" told A that it wasn't a memory, but a cerebellum world, A understood it. The scientists confirm over and over again that he couldn't manipulate memories, and even Rick confirms it when he says something like "You're right, but this isn't a memory".

>>91219442
Because Rick has never lied to any character and the show has never shown us events that later turned out not to be anything less than 100% the truth.

Nope. No sir. It was always about the schezcwan sauce.

>>91219353
>>91219430
Yeah I was being sarcastic. I like the show, but it's really irritating watching YouTube clips of it and seeing fans everywhere saying "Holy shit, this was so fucking dark, Rick and Morty is on a new level with how deep it is".

Do they not get that nothing in this show means anything? They're trying so hard to prove this story wasn't fabricated and Rick is actually a "deep" complex character (probably so they can feel smarter for watching this show) when all it is is the writers trying to be funny.

>>91219638
You're fucking retarded. There's a difference between Rick lying and Rick hacking a machine and explaining how he did it. Why the fuck would Rick lie and agree that memories can't be altered for no reason? It's not realistic for his character, Rick is the kind of person that will say "Fuck you, you're an idiot!" 100% of the time. He DID do this, by revealing he never remembered anything, he made all that shit up. If he was remembering shit, he would have said "Haha, you're an idiot, you CAN alter memories but only if X and Y with Z happen!" or some shit.

You don't understand Rick, or the basic format of storytelling.

>>91219660
If you get your tits twisted over people liking what you like for the wrong reasons, life's gonna be absolute unlivable dogshit for you.
Enjoy it for the reasons you enjoy it, try and find people similar to you to have fun and talk with, laugh about how if people who think this Adult Swim dickjoke cartoon is deep- they'd cry so hard they'd soil themselves if they read Victor Hugo.

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>>91217760
Shadman should draw her.

>>91217090
>it's so deep and I feel so intelligent for watching it.

I wish I could hate you to death

>>91219706
>You don't understand Rick, or the basic format of storytelling.
The basic format of storytelling is that you reveal details over time that allows your character to go through some kind of arc or be portrayed in a more sympathetic light to the audience.

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>>91218242
FUCK

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Rick said that he made all this shit up in the end of the episode, you know.

>>91219963
Rick lies

>>91219821
>shadman will actually see justice for his crimes
Living in the best reality.

>>91218242
Shiiiiiiiiiit she would have been the perfect age for that too - Disney movies and cheap McDonald's movie tie-ins.

>>91218928
>Be SHADMAN let
>Literally draw your mother in a tentacle bukkake, Scaley and Furry bills anally raping little girls, and Hilldog at her peak
>Get into trouble over 2008 tier Gangsta Roblox
JUST.

Are we really back? Is the next episode coming out next week?

>>91220027
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>91220002
>Disney abandoned Mickey D's and goes to "healthy" food places like Subway
sigh

>>91219442
Rewatched the memory scenes. Nowhere does Rick say that you can't alter the ways memories are portrayed (not the memories themselves mind you, just the way they're portrayed) Also neither are reliable since Rick is a liar and politician bug guy obviously doesn't understand things the same level Rick does and could potentially be wrong

As bugman said, they never left Shoney's - isn't Shoney's and everything inside a reconstruction of a memory? Are you telling me Rick never went to (an in-world) Shoney's before and made the whole restaurant up?

Also, missing the point. The pseudomemory may never have happened (it wasn't a real memory that much is obvious), but it could potentially be based (not a perfect copy mind you) around a real memory that was reconstructed in the cerebellum world.

Even if we concede that it never happened period, that doesn't disprove the idea that something tragic or traumotizing or maybe involving his wife/daughter that happened to Rick in the past that may have changed him as person, or, to reiterate, it could at the very least provide an insight upon Rick's perspective on his own past and himself. He may be "lying to himself" in a sense, using the pseudomemory as a metaphor of sorts of his feelings on something that may have happened in the past or on how he hates himself or whatever (though we can't say exactly now without reaching) because why would Rick make up a memory purposefully making himself look pathetic to someone else who obviously doesn't care?

>>91219528
Now you're just making things up. Neither of those two people say any of that, and those statements could only be extrapolated through implication, not through interpretation of the facts. You're reading far too much into things.

>>91219706
The lie is not the fact you can't manipulate memories in a brainalyzer, but whether the memory happened or not. Though you're probably right; Rick would have boasted if it was a memory and not a reconstruction.

>>91218847
Truth

>>91220120
>Nowhere does Rick say that you can't alter the ways memories are portrayed (not the memories themselves mind you, just the way they're portrayed)
He doesn't need to SAY it, he confirmed it when he used the Shoney's instead of just doing it. Or do you think he conjured up a Shoney's for shits and giggles to trick viewers for no real reason?

>>91219821
lol not anytime soon roblox got his ass

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>>91217090
>mfw the ending of the episode

>>91220836
>Or do you think he conjured up a Shoney's for shits and giggles to trick viewers for no real reason?
My purpose there isn't to prove that it was a 'memory' (because in all likelihood it was not), but to dispute the form of reasoning being used. For instance
>If they were real events, he couldn't imagine them, he would remember them instead.
This would mean he couldn't remember the flavor of the dipping sauce through imagining them in the cerebellum. You aren't interpreting, you're imposing implications on things and asserting them as facts.

You're missing my point, which ultimately is whether or not there's any level of validity (whether or not it was, an albeit distorted, reconstruction of a real memory is secondary) in what was portrayed. The scene shouldn't just be dismissed as Rick being an asshole because Rick isn't just an asshole and is a multifaceted character who's motivations aren't necessarily clear on the surface level.

I personally believe that the joke was about the expectation of the real Rick within the dissonance between the "human" Rick and sociopath Rick, when neither abstractions are the "real" rick.

Bah, I'm tired and I'm going to bed. You're being anal.

>>91217090
Is that supposed to be the wife's real design or entirely fake like the rest of the backstory?

I always thought she'd be a redhead.

>>91220836
Stop Anon. This is the same sort of fuck that pulled the "Mr. Poopy Butthole was REALLY a parasite!" shit. They don't understand jokes or storytelling, they just want to feel smarter.

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The popularity of this show on this board is proof that /co/ has been utterly lost to the normies. I wish 4chan never gained its reputation for being le secret internet club. Then maybe reddit would have stayed on reddit.

I wish we could apply some chemo to /co/ like the good old days, spamming scat porn until the normies got disgusted and left. But the mods are such cucks nowadays and it would never pass on gookmoot's board.

Fuck this website. I want to talk something other than offensively mediocre animated shows.

Do you think the Morties and Morticias got raped by the super-criminals I'm just asking because I think it'd be funny haha

>>91218242
D E E P E S T

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>>91217090

IMO, its not a fake memory. He's just not the rick that wears blue pants.

>>91217090
8/10
Keep up the good work anon.

Back in my day people were willing to look like an idiot when trolling. They didn't embed some insecure little escape clause in it to preserve the honorable name of "Anonymous."

>>91218928
What happen to shad?

>>91221739
>/co/ is supposed to be contrarian at all costs
>/co/ is supposed to be a single unified voice, with no difference in opinions

>>91217760
I'm so glad shad is gone

>>91218351
I think it's just a hyperbolic telling of the events. Ricks wife almost certainly left him because he's insane and full of shit. He just remembered it as a darker version of himself that destroyed the relationship.

>>91223311
We've fallen pretty far anon

>>91217886
OP was being ironic Anon

>>91217090
i want to protect loli beth

>>91221739
Don't let the door hit your ass on your way out.

I really can't tell if I like this show or not. I have seen every episode but as the series progresses it feels more like the same thing. Rick is the super smart and perfect edgelord character who gets to be an ass because he is right in the end trope combined with "oh but he is super troubled deep down and really cares." I get it, it's been done before but never to this level. As I watch more and more the more I am noticing I am only watching because I want to see him fail and get what he deserves, but I don't think that will happen. I have really grown to hate the godlike manchild that is Rick and I want to see him fail. This could be the whole point of the show. I just don't get what the creator wants me to think and that may just be his intent, but it makes it very hard to keep watching.

There are just so many inconsistencies with both Rick and Morty's character too. He has only shown to care about his Morty vs the rest of his family he left behind in the chroninberg reality, granted that may be because of info we don't know yet like this Morty is the last remnant of his true family or something. But also Morty doesn't make sense. He clearly wants to kill Rick, says he cares for Summer but not his real Summer, at this point why doesn't he kill his Rick he almost did it or just opt out from anything to do with his grandfather?

And why does Rick even adventure, he's a god character he can have anything so why do anything? Does he just want to have some sense of meaning in his life or just want to get some cheap thrill out of his omnipotent existence? If that is the case why bring Morty and threaten his safety?1

With the newest episode is the point Justin making that the show should just go back to the wacky fun elements of adventure and ignore the serious ramifications of their adventures or what ? I know he is a troll and the series can go any which way but I still don't get it at all.

I would really like to hear what you guys think.

>>91218218
But he did. He left who we are to assume his real Summer and Beth in the Chroninberg dimension. The only one we know he gives a shit about is Morty and that could be a case of ultier motive we don't know about.

>Bugman needs Rick's portal gun code
>Rick's brain can only last so long in the brainalyzer before it breaks down
>Bugman wants Rick to "take him" to the right memory
>Rick agrees but demands to drive
>Bugman agrees, knowing it's this or risking the memory being lost forever
>Bugman is already being visually aroused by the though of accessing this information
>he's already at Rick's mercy of information control
>Rick gets the Szechuan sauce, a ton of it, gives it all to Bugman
>plays through a fake imagined memory in a fake imagined street in a fake imagined Shoney's
>Bugman is too distracted by the sauce to pick up on any minor inconsistencies
>Rick doesn't have any because it would distract him from maintaining the consistency of this massive ruse
>ruse is probably a product of truths mixed with falsehoods but we can't know for sure until more episodes come out

it doesn't matter - vis a vis the Bugman's claims of memories not being able to be altered - if any of his origin story was real or not, because the environment they were in was a giant ruse of imagination from the ground up

the only part we know for certain is real is his memory of the McNugget sauce

>>91219982
Rick couldn't have added the virus code if it was a memory. It was fake.

>>91228217
I think you're taking a comedy show way too seriously. But if you want to seriously analyze Rick, he's an interesting character because he's ambiguous, it's never clear what kind of person he is and how much of his behavior is an act.

>>91221739
>I want to talk something other than offensively mediocre animated show
Are you on the right board, anon? That's what this board is dedicated to.

>>91221739
Maybe it's time for you to get out, cancerfag

This isn't your home any more. There are plenty of places on the internet for you to cuck around and whine

>>91228986
>Rick couldn't have added the virus code if it was a memory.
They never left the Schoney's part of his brain to go to the actual memory part of his brain. That doesn't mean he didn't base the illusion on memories or parts of memories.

>>91223332
He said Toon-Town was better then Roblox, so the Roblox legal team went after him for slander.

>>91221739

The chemo is already in process anon.

Anyone who used a bathroon once can handle scat, but if you can't handle a threads that you don't even need to click on your safespace, the cancer may be you.

>>91223332
The host of the site do not like lolis,and alt-right ideas.