reddit told me there's an animation revolution going

>>91191988
fuck you

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>>91191988
You aren't looking the right way.

Are they any newer Animators putting out work? SpeedoSausage, David Firth, Felix Colgrave, and Golfinho Still upload animations every so often.

>>91192086
Isn't Irelands animation industry going through a massive boom right now?

>>91191988
Is this the power of CalArts?

>>91192135
none of them is calarts

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>>91192120
Yes.

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Why so many people watch this hack?

His artstyle is atrocious and he isn't even funny or anything

>>91191988
It is, but not in America

>>91192250
Because his audience is mostly kids and they like the way he explains things and friendly personality?

>>91191988

Half of this people don't do animation anymore. Hell, I think only Harry is still putting out YouTube animations but like 2 videos a year.

>>91192221
I remember Tomm Moore saying that Irish animation really started with Don Bluth's studio, but it leaving allowed him to focus more on regional mythos.

>>91192135
More like the power of newgrounds has-beens that barely even draw stuff any more.

kaptainkristian used to post here before he got super popular, fuck.

>>91191988
>psychic pebbles does a shitty podcast now with the worst interviewer voice I have ever heard
>oney just does lps now
>Arin has only done lps for years after the OoT sequelitis embarrassment
>harry and ross at least still do animations

where did everything go wrong

>>91192365
>OoT sequelitis embarrassment
wha happen?

>>91192365
>ross
He still puts out stuff? I thought he was also working on Game Grumps

>>91192365
Making cartoons doesn't pay on Youtube. Because of the way the ad system works, a 5-minute cartoon that could take months to make will make as much money as a 5-minute vlog that some guy makes in a day.

>>91192400
he does but he does streams on working on Gamerverse all the time at least

more than you can say of Arin and the rest, sadly

>>91191988
Those shows you don't like?
Yeah turns out they actually have influence.

Want proof of revolution just look at Toonami on Saturday for 10pm. Or 11pm fuck I dunno just watch the streams.

>>91192365
They pretended that their loose connections with post-2007 studios meant that they were "professional" and would get legitimate jobs.

>>91192389
He didn't like OoT like everyone else. I haven't seen it personally, but seeing his other sequilitis videos I really don't trust him knowing anything about game design.

>>91192389
He said a bunch of stuff that made him look like a retard, and it pretty much exposed him that he's not a knowledgable about games as he thinks he is.
It also showed everyone that he has trouble problem solving basic puzzles and paying attention to important details (probably ADD)

I've been unfollowing them all lately. Tired of them whining about YouTube's policies.

>>91192221
>tfw Wolfwalkers won't even start production until 2018, if it even begins production at all

>>91192400
He actually hasn't been doing much for Game Grumps recently aside from their new show Doodle Doods.

>>91192327
well he's kinda professional in communication I have to give credit to him
but you can't learn anything usefull from him
better watch Aaron Blaise instead because he is the real professional and you can learn a lot from him and he's a good friendly teacher

>>91192456
it just really highlighted how his ADD affects how he plays games

any kind of waiting, what so ever, is the worst thing in the world and the fault of the game because he get's bored/distracted easily

>>91192498
True but kids don't know any better.

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>>91192086
Meanwhile, in Canada, ...

>>91192479
How dare creators use their platform to air grievances they have with said platform.

>>91192537
I'm glad you agree

>>91192421
>5-minute vlog that some guy makes in a day.

15 minutes is the ideal time for videos like that. But the longer viewers watch the more you get, 15 minutes is just the maximum a lot of viewers will keep the video on before clicking away.

Unrelated note, but I don't know if to admire or hate Matpat for, first bothering to research this, and then to start padding his videos with unrelated shit and longer awful jokes in his 'theory' channels. Christ mate, at least don't reveal your secret and then use it to milk every last cent.
/blog

>>91192365
Pebbles was working in TV until middle of last year, now he just does his podcast.
Oney pretty much does nothing but LP's and fuck around with personal projects (he posted some 3D animation stuff he was working on for Oney Plays), he did recently post about working on two separate cartoons and the possibility of revisiting Leo and Satan.
Arin only does LP's, he can't do anything else.
Ross is doing Gameoverse.
Harry is almost certainly working on a new cartoon.

To add a few more...
Felix Colgrave has been working on a new short film since last year.
Stamper lent his voice to The Behemoth's Pit People.
Ricepirate has been doing quite a bit of VA work.
Corey has a patreon and draws porn.

>>91191988
It's animation vs a autistic LETS PLAYER

I bet it's fucking minecraft let's player

Apparently he has a son...

>>91192479
What's wrong with complaining about YouTube's shitty algorithms?

>>91192078
Dante plz, we're trying to have a discussion here

>>91191988
>KaptainKristian
>Reddit

He makes great videos. But yeah he got the wrong people as a example of 'animation revolution', most old animators today just turned into LP, podcasts, or just stopped, and keep complaining about the algorithm of Youtube. Harry Partridge is the only one on that pic that still animates for the internet...every 100 years or so when the planets are perfectly aligned.
New animators are the ones that are inovating, people who are inspired by the old ones and still don't have such a problem with money right now. Some are still young enough to not have to worry about money, others have gained a big following and opened patreon or stuff like that

>>91192649
Not sure, I just think anon doesn't like complaining in general (which is ironic since he's complaining about it)

>>91192628

What other newgrounds era animators are still around? I know Filmcow and Ebolaworld/Tacoman are still kicking around but their work is barely animated comedy skits.

>>91191988
small obscure animators from hyuns dojo and other asian and hsipanic forums. these animator. do it for fun.

Speaking of Harry, is he still continuing Starbarians?

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Is it hard to make animation because I want to make one and became famous youtube animator

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>>91192120

>Hi, I'm Punky

>>91191988
Are you seriously calling the Kaptain reddit?

>>91193524
First you got to learn how to draw.

>>91193524
Unless you got a team or gain a ton of recognition VERY quickly you're likely shit out of luck. Best I can recommend is being one of those 'story time' youtubers that does light animating.

>>91192365
>not loving pebbles voice

>>91191988
Why didn't he put in max? hes a better animator then most of them in this picture

>>91193549
kino

Arin, Chris, and Ross all gave up animations to be let's players

Zach does a podcast

Zach and Chris hate each other now (apparently)

Hellbenders is dead in the fucking water

>>91193881
>Zach and Chris hate each other now (apparently)
Aw that sucks, they're both funny dudes. Didn't they used to be roommates

>>91193881
Chris now lives in Arin's basement and subsists on Arin and Suzy's leftovers.

>>91193881

>if they haven't uploaded something to youtube then that means they're not doing it at all

what did he mean by this?

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>>91193681
My man. I stumbled upon him back when Wacky Game Jokes for Kids! was his current thing. His Brain Dump on nu-PPG was just so great. It touched on a lot of things I felt, but just couldn't put my hands on. Max really does deserve great things.

>>91193911
take that with a grain of salt, it's something I heard here so it might be bullshit.
>>91194001
people like you have been saying that since game grumps started "Arin will animate while he does it!"
let's plays are just a death kiss, once they understand they can do something that takes 90% less effort they never go back.

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>>91193881
>>91193911
Wtf no they don't.

Also, Zac x Nikki is best ship.

>>91194108
>once they understand they can do something that takes 90% less effort they never go back.
That and the guy's pretty busy running his company and touring his shitty live show hither and thither

>>91192400
He's working on a TV show pitch. It's why he doesn't show up on Game Grumps hardly ever anymore.

>>91193881
>>91194169
Yeah I am going to need to see where you are getting that.

I am super bummed Chris decided to just jump into Let's Plays though. I think at one point he even said he never really wanted to do animation for a living any way, same goes for Arin.

A lot of the NewGrounds guys did pave the way but they really have just given up on animation and kind of just dump on it now.

At least Sexualobster still animates. Dude puts out a cartoon every month.

I love ya Kaptain, but I must digress by the end of the video. If these animators are the future of 2D animation, then its deader than I thought.

Seriously were there no better examples?

>>91194402
Sexualobster is getting paid by the Aussie Gov. to post his visual shitposts.

>>91194297

Arin said that he din animation mostly to be a voice actor in them.
Same thing with Kirbopher, the guy that animated the smash brothers brawl shorts. Now he is a VA for funimation.
I dunno what Chris plans to do when inevitably LPs stop being profitable.

>>91191988
haven't these guys had like, almost 20 years to be the "future of animation"? I'm pretty sure it's clear they're not by now. I fucking love the old newgrounders and I still realize that.

>>91194555
Chris seems unable to adjust to adult life. on sleepycast he would bitch about the most trivial shit like his washing machine breaking or people bullying him for wearing a halo shirt.

If I remember once they were asked the question "what do you want to do in five years" and he said he was done with animation, and just wanted to "direct shit" whatever that means

>>91194694
>Chris seems unable to adjust to adult life.
Maybe that's why I find him so relatable

>>91194169

Chris and Zach are done, anon. They don't follow each other on social media and Hellbenders is dead.

>>91194711
>>91194694
Chris is literally Arin's adopted child by this point.

When you think about it, solo animation just doesn't fucking work (unless its done in a very limited manner akin to Sick Animation). Animation is classically a team effort. There was an appeal of seeing what people could do individually with Flash in the mid/late 2000s, but those days are gone.

>>91194482
Living the dream.

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>>91194715
>Zach and Oney both did streams through the majority of 2016 of the new Hellbenders episode, sometimes even with eachother
>They moved to other sides of the country but still talk now and then
>Zach and Chris are done
Bullshit

>>91194920

and where are those streams now, anon
also if they still talk now and then, why don't they follow each other on twitter anymore

>>91194796
This. The smallest amount of animation of any quality takes fucking forever. Even if it's shit. So to make high quality, good looking animation, quickly, you NEED to have multiple people. If you were the best animator ever, and wanted to make a movie length animated film, it would take you years and years, and you'd probably give up. The only things that work solo are shitty two minute videogame parodies. And even those are mostly created by companies now.

>>91194796

Newgrounds was good for that. It brought people together to work on videos as either animators, voice actors or even writers.

If you are talking about animation needing inbetweeners, that's harder to do though the Internet without sharing the files quickly between the lead animator and others. Specially in the early 2000s. That's why collaborations were animators doing just shorts and then handing them to the guy that put them all together.

>>91194956

to be honest most of the prominent animations on newgrounds made heavy/practical use of tweening (like everything johnnyutah made). i don't understand the obsession with frame-by-frame. looks great when done right, but it's so fucking time consuming if you're tackling it solo.

>>91195032
>Looks great when done right

That's it, though. That right there is the reason for the obsession. I agree with you though, it takes ages. It's just so good to look at.

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>>91194932
>just because they don't really do art streams anymore or follow eachother on twitter means they aren't friends anymore
Imagine you had a good childhood friend but had to move to a different state. You'd promise to keep in touch, but you don't talk to him as much as you did when you were together. That doesn't mean you aren't friends anymore.

>>91195107
Zach and Onet weren't childhood friends first of all

Second they don't talk, at all, since the election over Zach talking about politics constantly and Chris just tired of listening to it. It's on his twitter if you look for it.

>>91194938
to be honest that's what I thought sleepycabin was going to be, instead it turned into a bunch of guys doing their own solo animations IN THE SAME HOUSE!!! It's not shocking it died but I would still like the last five episodes of the podcast

>>91195107

chris and zach were more than just 'good childhood friends', they were practically business partners/work colleagues.

everyone in the sleepycast circlejerk follows each other aside from chris and zach. it's clear as day.

>>91194715
They don't follow each other because Zachs twitter is really political and Chris talked about how he was getting sick of politics in one of the podcasts

>>91191988
gosh they're just taking over the internet by storm, releasing beloved shows today such as...

>>91195194
these are the people who still believe jon and arin are good friends, don't bother

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>>91195165
>Zack and oney weren't childhood friends first of all
It was a fucking example you retard.
Also, I saw that. I don't think he was talking about Zach, but if he was, friends don't always get along perfectly.

I like how all of these people in OP's pic are slowly ending up as sad aging middle aged has been with no future.

>>91195248

well, arin and ross are set for life (whether they're still animating or not). i believe harry partridge will eventually make something amazing, but he will need a lot of help.

>>91191988
Only if you go to calarts or suck up to the game grumps and markiplier.

>>91192365
When Youtube stopped giving animators fair treatment with adsense. It's not fucking worth it.

>>91195294
does Harry live in a basement or something? How does he earn money?

>>91195248
>>91195294

I'd really like if just one of them would try to leave their comfort zone of videogame parodies. Even Ross's Gameoverse is still, in the end, a videogame parody. I can't imagine they don't have some aspirations to make something different, they're artists, afterall.

>>91195346
If I'm not mistaken his dad was a pretty famous rockstar in like the 80's so he's pretty well set

>>91192389
He gave an honest review of Oot and nintenyearolds lost their collective shit because he dared to claim it was anything less than flawless.

>>91192456
>>91192466
Except it was like the only correct interpretation of a game he ever had.

OoT was the beginning of the slump in Zelda games that Breath of the Wild only just now fixed.

>>91195469
more like he shit all over a game because he was bad at it, if you want to see a well thought out and fair review watch this one instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o908SWJ8ulc

The animation revolution isn't happening with a bunch of independent artists who either stopped animating or put out one three-minute animated short per year.

The real animation revolution is being led by mid-to-high-level studios with decent amounts of funding that are ignoring TV broadcasting and instead striking deals with online streaming companies or putting their work on their own site. Examples include shows like Voltron or RWBY, action shows that could probably never exist in their current form on TV.

>>91195555

No, the only reason you disagree with him is because of your own biases.

>>91195576
If RWBY is the future of animation I'd rather it die to be honest.

>>91195555
Waste of quads
How is pointing out all the pointless waiting "being bad at it"? I have no doubt that egoraptor sucks at games but that observation is pretty independent of that.
Same thing for what he said about the game being linear and the puzzles being painfully obvious.

>>91195469
Haha, I remember that.

>>91195595
actually no, anyone with eyes can see Oot hasn't aged perfectly but Arin review was
A. filled with nitpicks that only bother an autistic person
B. clearly showed how he personally was bad at the game without it being the fault of the game itself
and C. missed some key problems that do fill the game.

The game should be criticized, but that doesn't mean that his pointless little nitpicks hold water.

Aren't Zach, Ross and Johnny Utah the only ones who've actually worked as artists in the animation industry?

>>91195635
seconded. I'd rather just have the memory.

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I was going to make a thread about it, but seeing there's this already I think there's no need to.

What's /co/'s opinion on Colgrave?

>>91195635
>>91195732
I'll never understand the hate for rwby

>>91195576
yup

>>91195555
here's an actually good review of oot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0XsRGEPDGg

>>91195635
I know RWBY isn't a masterpiece. I was just pointing it out as an example of what I feel is the real revolution in animation, where shows can be serialized and more action-focused and not be beholden to fucktarded execs. Maybe if WB had decided to make a deal with Netflix or some other company, we'd be getting a Justice League Action Season 2 rather than CN killing it through idiotic scheduling decisions.

>>91195806
I'll never understand how people like it. It's just not fucking good.

Piemations still does stuff, but they've nosedived in quality.

>>91195788
>What time is it?
>4:20
>Nice!
>Nice!
Nice.

>>91195850
funny enough RWBY could probably benefit from some parent company's structure, at least in keeping production timely

>>91195788
Incredible stuff.

>>91195897
Maybe because he jumps on bandwagons all the time?
Btw. Does anyone know animators whom create orginal animations? Like original series or shorts.

>>91192769
Well in the video these artists are supposed to be the 'foundation' for the new revolutionary animators (inspiration), so this shot was probably misguided.

>>91192456
Which is funny, because he made a LOT of good points about Megaman in that Sequelitis. But in OoT he really dropped the ball and just harped on little things he didn't like that weren't even objectively bad design.

It mostly boils down to Arin is a spaz and hates reading. He thinks you aren't allowed to tell a story if it isn't all pictures.

>>91195852
Granted it has majorly gone down hill since Monty's passing

>>91192466
Not to mention his OoT playthrough was DSP levels of pathetic

>>91196034
No he actually specifically compared them to CalArts graduates that control the animation industry (Lasseter and whoever)

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>>91191988
>foundation
only harry releases animations, jazza made one last year, the rest don't matter anymore
i guess it's time to move on

>>91192352
Its almost impossible to make money through animations on the internet solo, especially since youtube linked revenue with video length to fight those cancerous reply girls a few years back.

Combine all that with the fact that none of those people are socially capable enough to band together and form a studio and you get a situation were most of them just fall off on animating altogether as they grow older and have to start paying bills.

>>91191988
Why didn't you just ask Reddit? They told you about it and you were already there.

>>91195639
The retardation comes because he's expecting what is essentially the first 3d action adventure game to have the benefit of game design developments that came in the years after it came out.

>Le pointless waiting
One to two seconds at most.

>Linear
Compared to what at the time, exactly? Sure aLttP let you do the dungeons in any order, but they wanted to give each dungeon in OOC a storyline associated with it. None of them were all that flashy but for the time it was pretty nifty. and to do that they had to put the dungeons into a certain order. Big fucking deal. You can explore all around the overworld whenever you aren't in one.

>Puzzles being painfully obvious.
Yeah, twenty years after it came out, sure.

>>91196269
I wanted a second opinion, and /co/ is full of opinions.

Back in 2014 RT got acquired by FullScreen, which is owned by Otter Media, which is owned by AT&T. FullScreen mainly helps them acquire distribution deals and resources more easily. RT actually now has a fully separate building for all of its animation projects, and a huge animation staff. It doesn't seem like FS has actively gotten any say in the development of any shows, though. The backlash that would happen if some FullScreen guy forced Miles and Kerry to change a scene or a whole season would be enormous.

RT's also been at the online video thing since 2003, so they aren't slouches; RWBY and RvB have been coming out in a timely fashion for a while.

>>91196474
Dammit, meant to reply to >>91195978

>>91192479
>Youtube fucks them over, in a very direct way.
>wonder why they bitch.
Now if you'd said you're unfollowing them because they're unfunny hacks I'd agree with you. But if any group on Youtube has cause to bitch, its animators.

>>91191988
The revolution died years ago.
I'm sorry I failed you Harry.

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>>91195165
Are you legitimately autistic?

>>91195236
Was it ever revealed what ended their friendship? All signs point to shit having gone down between them during e3 2013 last i recall

>>91191988
I saw that and laughed about Egoraptor and Ross. I can deffo see Harry going somewhere though.

>>91196457
>One to two seconds at most.
It's still bullshit, invincibility frames/animations are bullshit used to pad out play time and create the illusion of difficulty.
>Compared to what at the time, exactly? Sure aLttP let you do the dungeons in any order
There you go
I don't want cutscenes I want to explore at my own pace
>Yeah, twenty years after it came out, sure.
Are you mentally challenged?
Quick you are locked in a room wit four unlit torches and a single lit one in the center there is nothing else in the room, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE TO DO?

>>91196641
Not the guy you replied to, but the way I see it, any algorithm change that decreases the viability of dogshit like Racist Mario is a good change.

>>91197999
>I don't want cutscenes
>this game doesn't give me what I specifically want, therefor it is bad

It was one of the very first 3d games and it was made for kids, the fact that it still holds up so well is impressive when you take off your modern youtube critic glasses

He shouldve mentioned Ukinojoe or whatever the fuck he changed his name to

>>91198247
I never said Oot was bad, neither did egoraptor for that matter, the sentiment is that it is overrated.
Nobody is denying that it was revolutionary at the time.
>take off your modern youtube critic glasses
I'll do that when you take off your rose colored ones.

>>91195411
His dad was in XTC, so yeah he's pretty well off.

>>91192365

Hey now, Arin is working with Ross and helping him out with his show, from what I've heard.

>>91191988
Reminder that Harry Partridge is descended from musical royalty

Well if the rumblings I heard were true, we might have another internet animator renaissance.

>youtube demonetizing large accounts
>youtube wants to become like a television channel
>having more family friendly and reputable content creators
>this might lead to a pilgrimage to another video site

Might not be on youtube, but I really hope we get some more indie animators.

>>91195107
well the hellbenders dream is dead least for now anyways. Zach said that adultswim had too many hell themed cartoons as is (mr.pickles and some other shit show) so they couldn't take up hellbenders.

There definitely is, here I'll send you a pic. just let me unbutton my pants...

>>91199884
>Nobody cares

>did a voice for Ross back in the day
>see where he is now
Huh.

>>91195521
Nah.

>>91193881
I don't blame Chris. Zach is a fucking wackjob like Jontron these days.

>>91200556

What did he do?

>>91195521
How can breath be the fixer if between worlds existed for the old style lovers first?

>>91191988

>Arin

>Ever going back to animation when he can sit and make millions with Game Grumps

Nah

>>91200840
He got really assblasted on Jon's behalf and said dumb shit like that a country should be outraged if a citizen won its beauty contest.

>>91200946

Was that somehow related to that Destiny feud?

>>91192506
I'm pretty sure he was arguing not that it ws just waiting that was the problem but that OoT used waiting as a form of difficulty instead of actually figuring out how to exploit an enemy's weakness, kind of like how you have to how Stalfos in OoT were just all about dodging and the attacking vs Stalfos in LttP where you had to figure out how to hurt tem even though they would jump over your sword, like getting them in a corner or hitting them with something like a bomb or boomerang if I recall. That and some aspects of design don't carry over well like the bats and how they're much more annoying and less fun to fight in OoT than LttP.

>>91201079
Yep. He got into a real shitfit with Destiny following the infamous stream and went real personal, digging up shit like Destiny's regret at failing to stop his friend from killing himself and saying that Destiny encourages suicide. He also seemed baffled and upset that Destiny suggested that a million subscribers could be monetized fairly easily.

>>91192479
So if something bad happens to someone they shouldn't get mad? Isn't that what you're doing now, only instead of complaining about how your job may become undoable for the pay you're getting mad at people for complaining that their job is losing sustainability?

>>91201109
His argument really boils down to Arin doesn't like 3D games.

>>91201109
All of Arin's arguments about waiting are defeated through deku nuts. You find a billion of them everywhere and they can be used to stun enemies so you can control the pace of the fight. Arin's just a tard who doesn't know how to play video games.

>>91198023
Well that should be more based on likes than view time though. The problem is that this algorith actually encourages that kind of low quality garbage because view time over view number priority means quantity over quality. It encourages things like vlogs and LPs, which aren't inhierently bad but a lot tend to be, over more developement intensive stuff like animations and other writing intensive stuff.

>>91201200
But a lot of things don't translate well in 3d? Like he loves dark souls and that often gets compared to Zelda for a reason so I don't think it's that nessisarily.

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Flash animators is the same

>Egoraptor style and colors
>same bouncy movements all the time with no slow moments
>edgelord humor
>someone has to do that crosseyed-head-tilted-upward "retard" face at least once

And people complain about the CalArts style. Shame that Shmorky turned out to be a maniac, he's one of the very few that stood out. Harry's stuff's pretty good too and I have lots of respect for the Sleepycabin guys other than Shad

>>91201357
This taste like Egoraptor!

What's Ukinojoe up to nowadays?

>>91201357
I'm pretty sure it's less because of ego raptor specifically and more because people just loved making and watching super insane edgy stuff there since you couldnt' find animations like that anywhere else.

>>91201412

He literally made a new animation today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ET7loiIDI

>>91201357
>>91201412
Oh yeah, Joe and Danielle's stuff are admirable too

>>91201412
They're still doing Great: the Show and Danielle's got a Made Ya Think! spin off going on

>>91201412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4McqzXJpNbs
https://youtu.be/U5ET7loiIDI
Literally posted today. I think they're just random segments on the "great the show" playlists that involves a bunch of other artists.

Cartoon Network having an April fools day shenanigans doesn't interfere with AS right?

>>91201140

I thought he brought it up because, not only did Destiny say that Zach should off himself, but that he actually laughed about his friend's suicide at one point.

(I haven't dug hard enough on the laughing at suicide part, I could be wrong on that part, but here's a clip of his stream where he says he should off himself: clips,twitch,tv/HedonisticReliableSamosaKappaRoss)

Kristian can make 10/10 videos with his silky voice, semi-objective mindset and godly editing skills but sometimes he produces duds like this.

It happened with the Childish Gambino one, where his fanboyism showed too hard, and on this one where you can see his optimism for a future that will never come.

>>91201518
Nope, that's how we got Toonami back, isn't it?

>>91201518
Isn't the schedule completely unknown for CN itself?

>>91199884
who? im curious. never heard that.

>>91201639
https://www.youtube.com/user/HarryPartridge

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>>91197999
I didn't know ACFag was on /co/

>>91201468
>and Danielle's got a Made Ya Think! spin off going on
Good to know. Made Ya Think! was always one of my favorite bits on Great: the Show.

>>91191988
>reddit told me there's an animation revolution going on. Can I see it?

A revolution by these hacks? They are golden hammer animators, using the same animated methods over and over again that for years, the same goes to today academics. Nothing will come out from their asses until a cheaper, better and faster way to animate is on the sky.

>>91192365
you should be glad, none of these people were funny or talented anyway. now they can fade into obscurity where they belong

>>91201140
>Destiny's regret at failing to stop his friend from killing himself
>regret
Didn't he outright tell him to kill himself?

>>91201845
I don't understand this reference

>>91192250
Fuck you, Larry was good. Shame he essentially stopped doing anything other than working on that shitty game that will never come out and tutorials.

>>91201140
>He also seemed baffled and upset that Destiny suggested that a million subscribers could be monetized fairly easily.
Of course Zach could make money off his subscribers if he went full jew, he just doesn't want to do that.

>>91192364
I'll be honest, I have not liked any of his videos. I don't like his video editing nor opinions.

I do wish him luck though.

>>91195806
It's fucking weeb garbage that looks like shit, that's why

>>91192365
>The brothers chap have children
>Randy Solem of VGDC is ded

>>91193549
https://youtu.be/QCm1sjARU7E

Why do people who avatarfag as themselves all have the same "look"?

Inoffensive haircut and clothes, you are making a cartoon of yourself and you are just giving it the same stupid real world features and clothes you have in real life? Is your hoodie that cool?

Had there ever been any newgrounds animator that actually made it big?

>>91201357
Why did you use a image from a flash cartoon that's making fun of people who say all flash animation looks the same to say all flash animation looks the same .

>>91192250
>Jazza
>A hack

I am deeply upset

>>91203900
Holy shit

Another miss from him, the "animation revolution" owes a lot more to overseas webgen animators than anyone in OP's pic in the last ten years

Anybody got the feeling that Gameoverse is going to be truly terrible? I can't shake it and I can't help but feel bad for him whenever he brings it up.

>>91200342
That was 2 years ago, did you even watch his latest update video?

>>91203900
I feel bad for Irish anons

>>91192365
>after the OoT sequelitis embarrassment
You know what was even more embarrassing? Seeing him actually play OoT on GG. What a fucking shit show. No wonder he hates the game, he's absolutely fucking terrible at it.

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>>91203900
I don't get it, sure it doesn't look great but it's a fucking toddlers show, you really can't expect much from-
>And I have down syndrome!

>>91205262
Dull featureless clothes (usually in neutral colours) and messy medium cut hair is just normie as fuck anon, seriously, go walk through a mall for a few minutes and 90% of everyone you see will look like that.

Isn't the revolution that every animator has switched to let's plays and podcasts because actual animation isn't profitable anymore due to youtube's algorithms?

>>91211668
Pretty much, if you can't put out a 10 minute long video once a week you're basically fucked, and that's nearly impossible for web animators.

>>91210784
Why? They finally have proper representation.

>>91201140
Fuck off destiny, Zach did nothing wrong

>>91192078
First response best response

>>91191988
nah pretty much all do their thing

>>91203900

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0XwKjBOQx0

>>91194473
They're all trash except for Harry Partridge. The dude is really really strict about the quality of his work and it shows. Every single one of his cartoons are better animated than anything you'll see on TV and you can just tell how much he loves animation. The only downside is that it takes him 7 years just to upload one short toon since he does the stuff that people hire entire teams of animators do by himself.

>>91212544
Destiny is in the hbomberguy strand of internet denizens, who think the best way to start social progress is to be a contrarian asswipe to their more popular and likable contemporaries.

>>91191988
>Has Egoraptor at the top of the pile
>Dude who dropped animation like a lead balloon the second it became unprofitable and admitted he hated it and only did it for the money

>>91195469
Only his criticisms were shit like "Death Mountain should have had an escort mission where you have to keep the Goron fed" and "If I cant see everything in front of me all the time, its unfair if I forget about an enemy and it hits me"

>>91214294
>arin admitted he hated animation and only did it for the money
what? Since when has animation ever been good for money?

>>91192506
His ADD doesnt excuse bizzare shit like never taking off the bunny slippers for the rest of the game

>>91194062
Yeah, I mean like him or hate him, out of all those KK posted about, Mac is the only one still doing regular animation

>>91195639
1) Waiting for the correct opening is perfectly fine game design, look at sonething like Dark souls
2)Part of the system in OoT is experimenting with weapons to find ways to circumvent the waiting. (Slinshit spiders before they come down, use the hammer on enemies in armor)

This is basic shit, Anon

>>91195806
Its vanilla, run of the mill waifu bait, you get ten of these a year from Japan. It would get shit on like the rest if it wasnt made by some eceleb retards

>>91197999
>I dont want cutscenes I want to explore at my own pace
You see tho, thats a preference of genre. Having an in depth story isnt an inheritly bad thing, its just something you dont want. Its retarded to expect every game to be a choose your own adventure cause thats your favourite genre.
I dont pick up and FPS and complain that theres no platforming, I accept its not for me.

In fact I dont even like open world games. Alot of running around and a gimped difficulty curve isnt for me, I prefer a structured experience with an engaging story

>>91208110
The update video that took over a year to make? No. I got sick of waiting.

Who the hell strings along fans for an update video for that long?

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>>91191988
Revolution implies actually doing something. Most of these faggots have been jerking off and doing nothing but bitch on twitter for years. Stop supporting newgrounds faggotry and move onto younger animators. These guys are just has-beens who are desperately trying to stay relevant.

Youtube animation died with Edd Gould.

Seriously, look at the output the guy had. What a workhorse he was, even when he had cancer twice. Would produce maybe 5 or 6 proper length episodes a year, with numerous little sketches in between. And all were able to stand on their own humour, and not gross out/scream/random humour a majority of online-animators relied on during the same time period.

I miss him a lot.

>>91214626
eddsworld should have died with him.

>>91214626
The only thing that dude cared about was making his fun little animations about hanging with his friends.
He was stand out and from what I hear was on the cusp of turning Eddsworld into his full time career when he had to postpone it due to the return of his cancer.

>>91195806
It is low quality, waifu pandering, teenage weeb trash that is based on a lie.

To sum it up, go check out the ORIGINAL trailer for the series and then watch the first episode and tell me it did not shit the bed.

I mean, the creator admitted that it was not what he wanted it to be, but that he did all that he could to devote enough time to it in order to bring it up to his standards.

Sadly, after he died, it took a nose dive, even more so, and to this day is now a shell of a shell of something that actually could have been cool.

>>91214695
Like it or not he didnt want it to. I just wish there had been better hands to take care of it than Toms

>>91192365
>tfw I missed sleepycabin

What a surprise, a single person animating shit on youtube and surviving solely on ad revenue and donations is not a valid way to make a living.

>>91214695
The final episode of Eddsworld was not very good. They for some reason made Tord the antagonist. Like why? That literally makes no sense.

>>91214695
>>91214732
How Tom handled EddsWorld always intrigued me.

Like, he clearly didn't want to do it and was/is insanely depressed, but man did he fucking burn every bridge he had there.

>>91214749
I think it was symbolism of Edds cancer returning. Literally Toms words.

There was also the fact that he replaced the legacy donation cameo in the wild west episode with an Undertale reference.

>>91214749
>Tom hated Tord in real life
>Tom takes over Eddworld
>Makes finak episode all about his character
>Brings back Tord, as fans have requested, but makes him act like a dick to Tom .
>Finale is about Tom the underdog getting back at Tord the villain. Edd barely says two words the whole episode

>Tom later comes out and says Tord was a metaphor for Edd's cancer (???)

>>91192365
>oney just does lps now
and he's the worst aspect of his own channel. He offers little to nothing but noises and simpsons impressions. Best person is Ding Dong whose actually good at video games and always sarcastic. Julian's decent too but he doesn't really offer anything to the commentary (pretty sure he does the art for each series).

>>91214741
I miss it too, but their breakup was inevitable with the lack of content they were putting out. That said, the podcast was and always will be gold.

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>>91191988
This was a great video tee bee eich:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFS7APAApBA&t=309s

Do modern kids even watch these Newsground rejects anymore?

>>91195994
Met the dude on a few occasions, he is talented as fuck and kind in person.

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>tfw practically every fucker I get on with loves Gamegrumps and Egoraptor etc.
>Drawfags I've been friends with for years always working on those 'grumps animated' things
>Try really fucking hard to get into that shit.
>Just can't. So unbelievably obnoxious I can't make it through a single video.
>Have to pretend to like them so I'm not 'that guy'.

Can someone PLEASE explain to me the appeal of him, Jontron and all that other shit? Just listening to their voices alone is almost painful.

>>91215156
No. The flash animator fad is dead and they have no idea what Newgrounds even is. They've all moved on to lpers. They probably don't even know Egoraptor used to be an animator

>>91215192
Jontron I do find funny, he's got good delivery. Egoraptor I think is funny in small doses. The problem with Game Grumps is that it's too large of a dose of Arin. I do like Danny though.

>>91215195
Do they even care about Egoraptor at this point?

>>91215192
It's for people that always wanted to be loud and obnoxious IRL but never could
They watch these guys basically have fun and do random shit
Because they can't do the same shit

>>91215192
I like how absolutely everyone hates Jontron these days and he is now reduced into a mediocre nobody from a long gone Youtube era now.

>>91192521
FLASH AND TOONBOOM! FLASH AND TOONBOOM!

I think there will be more interest in 2D animated films, but TV 2D will reach a low point in writing and animation quality by late '18 early '19.
In order for a proper TV animation renaissance, you need a wave of fresh talent (which could be boosted by more investment in non-American studios, I think this will happen anyway due to the success of Gumball.) alongside a single show full of this talent.
In '08, we got this with Flapjack, which led directly into AT, Gravity Falls and Regular Show which greatly renewed interest in TV animation.

What he is trying to get at with this video, is not that Chris, Zach, Harry, Ross, Jazza and Arin are going to be directly involved with production, but that their work from the late '00's and early 10's would have inspired this new wave of talent in the industry.

>>91215057
A lot of it, especially season 1, was pretty timeless too.

>>91192365
They had talent but not the work ethic to get better and capitalize on it.

>>91192365
>psychic pebbles does a shitty podcast now with the worst interviewer voice I have ever heard

2 episodes in 3 months does not a podcast make. Zach has a genuine problem with the absolutely paltry amount of content he's released compared to Chris' lets plays and all the various stuff Spazkid, Mick, and Stamper have been doing since Sleepycast ended.

His twitter fights are starting to get embarrassing

>>91192389
He doesn't like OoT because according to him "It's a game about waiting" and something about the Z targetting and how you can't be aware of your sorrounding while using it.

He's a giant fucking hypocrite since he loves Dark Souls and it literally has the same "problems" Arin described about OoT.

>>91215908
>work ethic
The algorithm, Anon. I use to earn 15 cents per video, but now I earn 13 cents! It's not fair! Someone, excluding people like myself, has to take the blame :((((((((

>>91192628
>Corey has a patreon and draws porn.

It's pretty disappointing how little 34 he actually draws now. For a while there he was the all star of drawing Rouge The Bats butthole. He's been working on a game with Jeff that looks pretty good from the few previews we've seen

Is Hellbenders officially a failed series at this point? Their weird insistence on not giving any sort of hint on it is really weird. idk why they would even pitch that to adult swim. How do you take these characters and this world they live in and make it 15 minutes to half an hour? Would it really be all the screaming and violence from the 5 minute long shorts for the entire episode?

>>91194062
oh wow I just realized that there's not a single mention of Max in Kristen's video. That fucking sucks, he's been around just as long as Zach, Harry, Chris, and Arin

>>91216032
He's not willing to sell hellbenders off since he won't get creative control on it once the execs rape it to death

>>91214438
>Waiting for the correct opening is perfectly fine game design, look at something like Dark souls
Except in dark souls enemies aren't invincible until that opening, you can still break their guard or backstab them.

>>91216079
But does any exec actually give a shit about Hellbenders as a concept? That's what I'm wondering, what exactly Zach and Chris had in mind for what Hellbenders was supposed to be.
If I had to describe it from what we've seen so far, Hellbenders is a show about 2 guys running around screaming while a bunch of shit happens around them. How do you take that and make it into a show that people would actually watch?

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For all the gossipy little bitches wondering if Zach and Chris really hate eachother

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>>91214741
>>91215057
>>91215870
>hear sleepycabin multiple times a year

It hurts so much it ended, I really wanted to see more Shad and Stamper, the addition to Mick to almost every episode was not bad but overdone

>>91216226
>Shad
no

>>91203639

>Not squandering resources is 'going full jew'

If you're worldview is that childish then you are most certainly not old enough to use this website.

>>91216226
The 4chan discussion on episode 24 was probably the most embarrassing part of the podcast. I haven't even finished ep 25, just 3 boring old men. Mick is like the sole person who even mentions Sleepycast, everyone else has no interest in it, Stamper least of all

>>91214799
>wild west episode

was that the one where every background character either had a dyed blue skrillex haircut, a hijab, or both right?

>>91195806

I've never understood the love for it It has no redeeming qualities.

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>>91216243
>not wanting more crazy swiss militar man

I never said his art is good, but holy fuck he's interesting

>>91216349
No one really wants to talk about 4chan even if they now about it

>>91216165
SHADAP, I wanna see Shadman's dick vagina!

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>>91214695
>that documentary that keeps cutting back to this 3D talking head voiced by Tom (of fucking course) making stupid ass random jokes

I will never forgive him

>>91192120
>Isn't Irelands animation industry going through a massive boom right now?
Hai, I'm Punky

>>91216385
Yea but Mick says something like "They all log into their 4CHAN ACCOUNTS" and he sounds like such an old man.

Am I the only one that thinks Ross is fucking unfunny and his animation work is shit? His subject matter is lol xd tier with minecraft and pokemon parody's and making it over polished doesn't hide the fact it lacks humor

>>91216430
>4chan accounts
Not all of us are me, Mick. Though, given how I often attract impostors, they might as well be.

>>91216349
Stamper has always been pretty based

>>91192250
He makes okay tutorials
He knows how to draw too
He seems like an okay guy too
But yeah, when he settles for that Seth McFarlane bootleg aesthetic like in his thumbnails, it's kinda infuriating

>>91195788
I unironically think he has the potential to save youtube animation and inspire some kind of
"""renaissance"""

He's just so fucking busy doing his own shit, plus youtube sucks, I really don't blame him, he started out great but kept perfecting his craft and that's fine with me

>>91192521
WHIPCRACK WHIPCRACK WHIPCRACK WHIPCRACK WHIPCRACK WHIPCRACK
LOL LET'S TURN TELETOON INTO JOHNNY TEST TV

Speaking of YouTube animation, Colgrave just released the short film he's been working on for the past two years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_MSFkZHNi4

>>91216165

Wait. So who is the person Chris dislikes but Zach is friends with?

>>91217089
H3H3

>>91217181
Are you serious?
Why?

>>91215972
Zach's twitter fights remind me of the Sleepypasta episode when he talks about getting blackout drunk and getting mad at the police for bringing him in. He says he's not a tough guy, but he keeps picking at shit when he should leave well enough alone. Save everyone a lot of time and drama.

>>91203639
If Zach isn't willing to suck up his pride and update his financial practices to sustain himself, he's got no right to complain about others doing so and succeeding. That kind of mentality is why Adult Swim gave Hellbenders the boot in the first place.

>>91217321
From the way he told that story he was in the wrong tho. He vomited all over a public space and was obviously intoxicated. I imagine NYPD have some kind of rule that requires them to detain an intoxicated individual to stop them from hurting themselves or someone else.

>>91217066
I fucking love this guy's stuff
>That moment where he tears the king's skull out
This gon' be good.

>>91201140
It was more everyone destroying destiny all at once, with only the most brainwashed of his fans being on Destiny's side. Of course that had a lot to do with the hours of content Destiny produced before getting a lucky break and getting attention from Jontron and Sargon. The personal jabs were funny as hell and totally deserved, Steve is human garbage

>>91192221
You forgot the main incentive
>Native English speakers

>>91217181
how can someone dislike h3h3

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>>91192607
matpat may be the least funny person on earth. I can't sit through an entire episode of game theory

>>91217707
I watch his videos a lot and I can think of a few legitimate ways. He's sort of the anti-sjw's sjw. In the sense that, while he makes videos making fun of Buzzfeed and the Hugh Mungus lady, he does so in a moral high grounding sort of way that can be kind of annoying. He's also sort of irresponsible with his massive following, doing very little to tell his legions of fans not to bother people. He could counteract this by doing more charity stuff like the Hugh and Ken Bone interviews, but to do it too much would be blatantly milking his fanbase

>>91217707
he pads his videos too much, drags jokes out/on for way too long
if you really think about it his reaction videos aren't very content heavy

>>91193549
>ireland makes a cartoon
>it's about a potato

>>91217194
There was some twitter post he made making fun of him

>>91217066
Terry Gilliam would be proud.

The only format for Youtube animation to work are probably those so-called relatable low budget ones. I like Jaiden though

>>91195788
Uploaded something a few hours ago.
https://youtu.be/w_MSFkZHNi4

>>91218791
It's so well crafted, it feels like art but also made me laugh too, his shits amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M38nFbhd_Xw

>>91201601
This couldve been a much better video if it was more about the rise and fall of newgrounds and it just ended there, but for some reason his thesis was that newgrounds animators are somehow going to be making the next Pixar films which is really fucking dumb

>>91219304
All his videos are really hyperbolic in that way. He's sort of like how RetroAhoy is, he gives a lot of gravitas and importance to what is still at the end of the day just a cartoon. The only thing he's covered that deserves such reverence is Calvin and Hobbes, and that's just because Newspaper comics are such a small pool with such a low part of quality that C&H defaults to the objectively best one

>>91214978
hey man, the simpsons grump cade was god tier.

>>91214365
Back when Egoraptor was THE name of online animation, he was making a killing off his 'awesome' cartoons.

>>91220225
I doubt he ever made a "killing" off his Awesome series, especially when you compare it to the unbelievable amounts of Game Grumps bank he's making. Game Grumps is owned by Disney after all, so of course it's a well paying gig

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>>91192365
Newgrounds tanked and Youtube gave the middle finger to animation in order to favour let's players.
Same way now Youtube is sabotaging LP in favour of old format media that gives him money.
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN

>>91217707
DESU early h3h3 was actally pretty funny but when they moved back to LA thier video's started declining pretty badly.

>>91216958
Yeah, the guy knows how to draw/paint/whatever, the problem is that default style he turns to a lot of the time looks... ugly.

>>91218791
Good shit. But I still love this one more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RHFFeQ2tu4

>>91217753
How the hell am I supposed to read this?

>>91215334
You have to go back.

>>91192521
>film credits slashed
>government funding to arts slashed
>economy based solely on housing speculation
It's doing alright

>>91193513
Episode 3 was released

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What about him

>>91215144
>the future of animation is shitty random humour with really wacky so funny xD faces

wow...the future of animation looks like fucking shit. I want to go back. you can show Lion king to anyone, you can't show oney's retarded shit to anyone older than 12.

>>91192120

yeah if you want to make shows for fucking two year olds with down syndrome, ireland's animation industry is EXPLODING

>>91221580
>you can't show oney's retarded shit to anyone older than 12.
Of course you can, nothing's stopping you.

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>>91219248
speedo is still great, and one of the more talented animators.

Anyone like Yotam/lazypillow? His artistic style is a bit lazy but it works with his humor. He also makes great music.

>>91221625
Zach and Chris should have tried pitching Hellbenders over there then

>>91191988

None of the people in this image have released a cartoon in the past 12 months

>>91194169
Those two are really cute together

>>91220300
He made a shit ton of "Awesome"s for MTV.

>>91221674
Love him, he's a qt lil boy. RIP Wisenheimers, I wish max wouldnt isolate himself so much.

>>91192389
He revealed that he doesn't know shit about game design, and really no surprises there since he's never made a game in his life, people don't give good advice on things they have no experience with.

>>91221674
I can't stand Speedo's humor. Way too heavyhanded. Yotam is way more chill and and manages to be legitimately funny.

>>91220714
Connections. Are you simple?

>>91201109
>but that OoT used waiting as a form of difficulty instead of actually figuring out how to exploit an enemy's weakness
This is objectively wrong, regardless. There are a million applications of the sub-weapons that work on enemies you wouldn't expect. But Arin doesn't experiment. If you've ever watched him play a Zelda game, it is maddening how he doesn't know ANY of the tricks you learn just by trying things.

>>91221934
Yeah I agree with you on the humor part, it's a bit forceful, but you can't deny the man isn't one talented animator.

>>91216097
Enemies are never invincible in OoT.

>>91215144
People don't get the point Kaptain is trying to make.

Egoraptor inspired me to want to animate, he inspired alot of children to want to animate. Just like how John K inspired Egoraptor to want to animate. Its not about the content egoraptor made, or is making, but the fire he lit in many a newgrounds child. That fire burns. Many people working at CN and Nick and Disney in the future could very well have been sparked by Egoraptor or Jazza.

>>91222171
Any enemy wile it's blocking is invincible during it's block animation such as wolfos.

>>91222366
And yet there are always ways around it, such as deku nuts.

>>91217589
>>91216323
His youtube probably hasn't been his main source of income in years. He'd rather keep making animations in his spare time rather than turn his channel into yet another let's play channel.

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>>91223637
Thanks for reminding me how much anime sucks

>>91213320
I'm surprised it took this long for this to get posted.

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>>91223637
you're welcome

>>91218791
>Bizarre setting but plot you can follow
>Right blend of humor vs. awe
>Almost 10 minutes long but doesn't feel remotely like a chore to watch
This is quite possibly the best thing he's done.