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>Exclusive: Sony Developing ‘Venom’ as R-Rated Start

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>Exclusive: Sony Developing ‘Venom’ as R-Rated Start to Their Own Marvel Universe
http://collider.com/venom-movie-rating-r/?utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

It won't be DC or Marvel in-fighting that will kill the MCU, it'll be Sony going full retard and going scorched earth with the Spider-Franchise
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>>91085892
>Kid friendly spiderman followed by R-rated Venom
yeah, that'll do it alright

and you just KNOW DC is going to announce something EVEN MORE RETARDED next week
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Fuck, is there any way to petition Sony to not be retard?
People got Mulan to be an all asian cast when reports surfaced Mulan was going to have a white love interest.
This is fucking stupid.
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>>91085971
in english, please.
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Can't be worst than Marvel's venom
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Even at the peak of its popularity, Venom never warranted a solo movie. I'm not completely against it, but I wish Sony wasn't as retarded as WB sometimes.
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>>91085892
>Deadpool and Logan are popular
>immediately shit out an R-Rated Venom

Will Sony ever stop being fully fucking retarded.

Pic related, it's Sony.
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Fuck all y'all niggas this could be awesome.
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>>91085892
The mouse will never own Spidey or the X-Men confirmed.
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>>91086119
Yeah cause sony has been known for their stellar ideas these past few years, especially when it comes to the Spider-Man franchise.
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>>91085892
>Want a serious venom movie
>Also want it connected to Spider-Man movies
sigh
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>Tfw been a huge Venom fan since i was a kid
>Tfw 26 now and will probably never see a good Venom vs. Spider-Man fight that lasts more than 3 minutes just for fun.
>Tfw hate the current Venom comic.
>Venom will probably fight Spidey in the MCU
Its like Marvel doesnt want me to be a fan.
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>>91086153
they'll just buy sony and fox then
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>>91086205
>in the MCU
You wish.
You'll get never get any of the iconic villains/side-characters of Spidey in the MCU now outside of his core cast
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You just know Sony is going to fuck this up, then Marvel Studios will later roll out Agent Venom
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>>91085892
KEK. Good luck with that one Sony. Can't wait for them to further fuck this up so all the right can go back to Marvel when their movie business finally crashes and burns like all their other ventures and they're only Playstation from that point on.


Then we can have a real Spidey vs Venom movie finally.
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>>91086119
>Fuck all y'all niggas this could be awesome.
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>Fox manage to prove that R rated super hero movies can be a success (even if they didnt want it)
>Now people want to copy that just like they copied the "cinematic universe" strategy
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>>91086119
fuck off retard
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>>91086004
>implying we'll ever get to Agent Venom
But no, keep bitching, I'm sure we never could have had a cool Brock Venom in the MCU.

I fucking love Agent Venom but that is the least of Spider-Man MCUs problems right now. The amount of time it takes an actor to get huge for a role and having Flash grow over time is easy enough to do, especially when Agent Venom SHOULD be years away. If you're the kind of retard who thinks we should be getting Agent Venom less than 3 films into MCU Spidey then you're a retard.

Right now the problem is we won't even get a basic venom in the MCU
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How the fuck did things get so bad that fucking DISNEY is the only company that can make a good movie?
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They've been threatening to inflict this on us for years.

I'll believe it when I see it.
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>>91086357
Well for Sony it's because they're almost bankrupt so they're desperate for any sort of success.

Disney doesn't have that problem so they can take their time and not panic like retards every time they make a movie.
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>>91086304
>blame Sony for Fox
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>>91086357
>>91086391
Good goy.
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>>91086004
I dont know who is that kid, but he surely would make a great Flash Thompson.
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>>91086021
Sony is eons ahead of WB in the retard race, they are looking franticly everywhere for atleast one hit or else they will go under
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>>91086316
Holy shit Image must be rejoicing right now, people will finally want to make Youngblood and Spawn movies
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>>91086304
If Deadpool was released earlier Tranktastic4 would be a good movie.

Deadpool was the push Fox needed to be more risky and dark. If deadpool was released earlier, Fox wouldnt have chickened at the body horror sci-fi Fantastic Four idea and reshot 2 thirds of the movie.

Id wish the trank version leaks someday, not as a fan of the f4, but as fan of horror sci fi.
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>>91085892
Shouldn't they actually introduce the character in a Spider-Man movie before talking about a spin-off first?
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>>91086357
Well, Sony hires this kind of clueless morons and puts them in charge, for one.
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>>91086357
I have yet to remember a single Disney good movie in the last 10 years. And no, Iron-man 1 wasnt made by Disney.

Star wars, Disney live action, Marvel all mediocre shit.
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>>91085892
>Sony will kill the MCU
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>>91086491
Well...

http://collider.com/rob-liefeld-extreme-universe-movie-deal/
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>>91085892
Sony is actually doing something neat, but Disney won't allow their blessings to slap their Marvel Studios logo on it.

Rather Venom is part of his own Cinematic Universe or doesn't get made at all.
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>>91086526
>possibly return to Spider-man 4

Whats your problem cuck? Afraid of capekino?
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>>91086506
>Deadpool was the push Fox needed to be more risky and dark
fucking WHAT?
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Make it a FlashVenom movie and we'll talk.
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>>91086576
Deadpool was the proof investors needed that you could make R capemovies and make money with them

If deadpool came earlier, f4 probably wouldnt had to be reshot
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>>91086585
WB is probably desperate and retarded enough to sign off on that
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>>91085892
>people want a MCU R rated movie where Venom Flash Thompson is a curry shit head.
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Oh fuck you Sony, I'm glad you're going bankrupt.
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>>91086610
>WB
...How new are you to capes, son?
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>>91086526
>"maybe the amazing spider man 3" an animated film
lmao holy shit these emails are so fucking funny
>sinister six over 2 billion
>spiderman 4 to continue Raimi universe while also making amazing spiderman 3
>Toby Macquire and Andrew Together
what the fuck lmfaooo


These meeting notes are fucking hilarious.
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>venom flops
>Disney is able to get Spiderman to itself for a good deal.
seems like things will work out.
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>>91086641
It's hilarious how clueless she is.
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>>91086641
>spiderman 4 to continue Raimi universe
Literally nothing wrong with it
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>R rated fantastic 4

Soon...
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>>91086685
Didn't she get a lot of flack for being retarded?
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>>91086691
ITS CLOBERING TIME
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>>91086686
WHILE Garfield's spider man was going on?
Then what the fuck was she thinking having two spider men in the same movie?
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>>91086740

That it would make a billion dollars.

This woman is obviously a racist, insane idiot.
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If it's Flash I'm down.
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>>91086740
>whats spider-verse
>whats clone saga
>what are the million times many different spider-men crossovered in comic books from different universes?
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>>91086740
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>>91086777
It won't be, its a horror film.

Why the fuck does all of /co/ want to rush into Agent Venom? Agent Venom without Flash or Venoms history is retarded
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So how are they going to do a Venom movie when Marvel owns literally everything else about Spiderman?
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>>91086876

Marvel and Sony co-owns everything now.

Which is a damn shame, since its clear Sony has no fucking idea what its doing.
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>>91086718
She should. She's a complete retard.
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>>91086777
>>91086856

Disney has the rights to Flash and they made him a small Indian child. This is Brock.
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>>91086894
what is this on?
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>>91086876
their lawyers will hash it out
I suspect the SMCU will be less canon than the MCU bu more canon that AoS et al
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Reminder

Sony actually thought that a Raimi Spider Man vs Amazing Spider movie would rake in billions
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>>91086565
Venom without Spider-man is like Catwoman without Batman
it fucking sucks
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>>91086876
>>91086893
Marvel doesnt own shit.

What Marvel got from the deal is just the character for crossovers.

And while Marvel can give advice to Sony regarding the solo Spider-man films... the rights, profits and final decisions regarding the solo movies are all Sony's.

And what else are you talking about? Sony has the rights to all villains and support characters from the Spider-man franchise.

The only thing Marvel got from this deal was a cheap way to reinvigorate the MCU before it begins to shown signs of age.
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>>91087032

Then may this flop as bad as Halle Catwoman did. Hopefully.
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>>91086967
Spider-man 4 could easily reach 1b through nostalgia alone

We dont even have to speculate that much since it will eventually get done. Probably adapting Reign storyline.
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>>91087113

Kirsten Dunst in the role she was born to play: a woman killed by radioactive jizz.
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>>91085892
>Venom kills Garfield-Spidey
>Miles gets his own movie
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>>91086941
Pascal and her stupid decisions almost sunk the "Jobs" movie as she was adamant that it be directed by David Fincher (long after he had passed on the project) and star Leonardo DiCaprio (after he politely told them he wasn't interested) and couldn't commit on Danny Boyle and Michael Fassbender. Rudin was just fed up with the piss-poor decision-taking by Pascal by that point. He was basically tired of her by that point.
>I have worked something out for you with Universal and whether or not you take it is up to you— but so we are clear, I am done being your advocate here as you don't deserve one exhalation of breath on your behalf. You've behaved abominably and it will be a very, very long time before I forget what you did to this movie and what you've put all of us through.
>You've destroyed your relationships with half the town over how you've behaved on this movie. If you don't think it's true, wait and see. Let's see the next filmmaker WME puts in business at Sony or the next piece of star talent. I'll bet my house I'm right.
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>>91087221

Ha ha!
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>>91086214
>Buy Fox
I don't think you know just how big Fox is, They had enough money to make the offer of $85 Billion to buy the entierity of Time Warner
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>>91086153
X-Men, you're probably right, but Sony will go under in a few years, which means Marvel gets Spidey back by default.
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>>91085947
>Kid friendly spiderman followed by R-rated Venom
Actually, why not?
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>>91086357
>DISNEY is the only company that can make a good movie?
Logan wasn't Disney dingus
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>>91087373

Don't forget FF.
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>>91087398
That's with Fox.
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And now the Deadpool/Logan copies begin
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>>91087221
>>You've destroyed your relationships with half the town over how you've behaved on this movie. If you don't think it's true, wait and see. Let's see the next filmmaker WME puts in business at Sony or the next piece of star talent. I'll bet my house I'm right.
Holy shit kek
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>>91087221
It's like she thinks all movies need to have are a few generic checklists that automatically generates a good movie
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>>91087535
Better than the GoTG copies at least.

That fad only infected Suicide Squad before being replaced by the superior "owh the edge" fad.
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>>91087398
>>91087513
Isn't Fox trying to reboot FF AGAIN to keep the licence?
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>>91085892
Nothing good can come from this
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>>91087673
Last time they said they were still doing tranktastic 2.

Probably wont happen but that was their statement.
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>>91087673
Nope.

Fan4stic sequel.
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>>91085892
Making a Venom film unconnected to Spider-Man is like making a Bizzaro film unconnected to Supes.

Jesus Christ.
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>>91085892
If this is non-MCU and Sony, I recommend bringing back Garfield for supporting role as Peter. And maybe Emma Stone as a returned Gwen Stacy. Then maybe Zylka as Flash venom or somebody jacked as Eddie. Get on it Sony!
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Isn't the fate of Sony Pictures riding on the Emoji Movie?

Like things are so fucked that if it flops, they're selling the division?
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>>91086214

>The Disney MouseStation
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>>91085892
Do you know what would be really weird but also awesome? If they combined the ASM and Raimi universes a la Crisis. For instance, Garfield is Peter, Stone is Gwen, DeHaan is Harry, DaFoe is Norman, Simmons is Jameson, Dunst is Mary Jane, Molina is Ock, Zylka is Flash etc.
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>>91087797
If it starts in planet Earth they could just say Venom survived from SM3. And so they dont have to explain how the symbiote got Spider powers.

I think it could rake 3 billions.
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>>91086526
I actually forgot that they wanted to have Channing Tatum play venom until this reminded me

Holy fuck what are sony smoking? What the fuck is amy smoking?
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>>91087882
Yes but

Tobey is Peter
Garfield is Ultimate Peter
Franco is Harry
DeHaan is a failed clone from the dead Harry
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>>91087926
Suburban Middle Aged Woman Logic with no care for source material
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Anyone have the emails where she's shamelessly attempting to flirt with Feige?
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>>91085892
>>91087797
>>91087907
Just go full multivariate with this shit.

Bring Garfield and Mackguire as Spider-Man again. It's the only way that I can see this mess working out.

Do Spider verse, but GOOD.

It could rival Avengers in public and hype.
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>>91087954
>source material
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>>91085892
Feige and co should have fought harder to prevent this kind of thing, it could hurt their brand.

More likely though it'll fail and Sony will just hand even more control over to Marvel.
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>>91087070
>Sony has the rights to all villains and support characters from the Spider-man franchise.
They don't own Kingpin and The Punisher so that obviously isn't true.
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>>91088064
Those characters were deemed a part of the Daredevil franchise, which was returned to Marvel after Fox failed to continue using that franchise.
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>>91087926
>What the fuck is amy smoking?
Dick
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>>91085892
>Let's make a Venom movie
>But like, without any Spider-Man or tied to previous SM films
>and it will be the first of a new cinematic universe
>except most of the properties are off-limits
Brilliant
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>>91088116
LMFAO
holy shit kek
her JEW husband 20 years her senior probably stuffed her pussy full of pork for that
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>r-rated
>Venom
I'm imagining a movie that's going to get lost in the edge and forget the goofy and (trying to be) heroic aspect. Or a movie that does this fine but just wants an excuse to put in gore and have everyone say fuck a lot, hoping it will be successful like Deadpool or Logan.
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>everyone wants their own cinematic memeverse
How long until Image gets one with Spawn, Witchblade, etc?
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>>91086526
I love the balls on Sony, that they thought they could get Thor and daredevil
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>>91087712
http://www.superherohype.com/news/359435-fantastic-four-sequel-pulled-from-fox-schedule
Sequel pulled from schedule,
it's in limbo
they'll probably try to sell to marvel to get some money, I doubt they'd just let the rights revert
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>>91088391
Thank god. That movie was a mess.
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>>91088466
I've always been curious about it. Is it at least entertaining in a trainwreck sort of way?
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>>91088640
Not at all. It's first and foremost, boring. So dull and uninteresting. The casting is god-awful and everyone is spitting out their lines in the most monotone and mundane way. The effects are uninteresting and visually unimpressive. Doctor Doom's character's motivations are atrocious. The third act's final battle is so rushed and anti-climactic you actually feel like punching the TV.

I'm not exaggerating here either; I actually re-watched this yesterday, you know to see if it got better on a second viewing and I actually ended up hating it even more.

You are welcome to give it a try, but if you have the slightest care for either the Fantastic Four or cinema in general you'll end up dreading every single minute too.
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>>91088116
>Re: Your boobs

kek

weren't there some emails of her drooling over feige, too?
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>>91088259
Liefeld just cut a huge movie deal for his Extreme studios characters for a planned movie universe.
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The sad thing is you can't even specifically say this was the stupidest thing they've done with the Spider-Man franchise this decade.
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>>91088841
It sounded more like they were both flirting with each other.
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>>91088991
That's not the flirting part. The more they chatted the more unprofessional Amy started to become. Feige always remain somewhat short but courteous.
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>>91088914
>How do you do, fellow kids?

Jesus, you can make Spider relatable to millennials without the trendy social media apps.
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>>91086526
>TASM: Sinister Six Part 1 & 2
>Resurrected Emma as Carnage
>TASM 4: Part 1 & 2
>SM vs TASM
>Sell Marvel rights for 5 billion
>Marvel can recast everybody but Andrew

I can't even start to figure out what the most retarded part of this is.

Do they think that you can just nonchalantly throw "part 1 and 2" on movies for fun? Why the fuck wouldn't it just be TASM 4 & 5?

Do they really think the Spider-man license is worth 5 billion, when FUCKING STAR WARS only cost 4 billion?

Did they really think it would make sense to release a Maguire SM 4 amidst Garfield being in his own sequels AND the MCU?

How do I get a job at this place? I can come up with bad ideas just as good as the next guy, I'm sure of it.
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>>91087952
Tobey and Franco are too old. Dunst works because she's younger than the rest of them at just 32. Besides, Franco has stated recently that he regrets ever being involved in the Raimiverse despite it being his big break.
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>>91087952
>>91089195
We could compromise with Dave Franco.
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>>91089195
On the other hand, it's not as though Franco's subsequent movie roles have covered him in glory.
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>>91089066
Oh, I must've missed that one. I believe you, but i haven't seen it.

She's quite the useless moron.
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>>91089175
>Do they think that you can just nonchalantly throw "part 1 and 2" on movies for fun? Why the fuck wouldn't it just be TASM 4 & 5?
>Do they really think the Spider-man license is worth 5 billion, when FUCKING STAR WARS only cost 4 billion?
>Did they really think it would make sense to release a Maguire SM 4 amidst Garfield being in his own sequels AND the MCU?
Yes.
>How do I get a job at this place? I can come up with bad ideas just as good as the next guy, I'm sure of it.
You have to fuck this
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>>91085892
Garfield loves Spider-Man and was heartbroken when he got fired. I would love nothing more than to see the Amazing universe continue at Sony while the MCU does its dumb shit.
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Man, every time I start thinking Sony might stop being retarded they just dive right back in.
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>>91089429
They can't stop.
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>>91089429
Is Sony, the company, still teetering on the verge of bankruptcy?
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>>91088097
>Those characters were deemed a part of the Daredevil franchise, which was returned to Marvel after Fox failed to continue using that franchise.

Kingpin and Ben Urich, yes. Punisher, no. Punisher had separate rights from Daredevil and was returned to Marvel from Lionsgate, not Fox.
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>>91089487
I wish, they're a cancer on everything they touch but they've got a pretty rabid video game fanbase.
Not to mention they still make money on some of the shit they crap out.
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>>91085892
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>>91089487
PS4 only keep them floating

Beyond their gaming wing it's all falling apart
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>>91087756
>let's make Reverse Flash movie unconnected to Flash
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>>91089482
There's nothing retarded about that though
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>>91085892
>our OWN VENOM with COKE and that Red Venom thing killing HOOKERS
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>will start filming fall 2017
Is there ANY chance this actually happens?
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>>91089777
It's mostly annoying.
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>>91086941
my Sony Xperia Z2
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Lmfao Sony would be the type to type some shit like:
>Coke is doing really good right now.... rly cool with the kids
>Tie in with Spidey??
>Coke Zero for Venom... black = COOL
>Classic Coke for peter...
>Carnage can be === Coke Cherry? Let's talk with Paul to see if we can get a new flavor made for us...
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>>91090021
>Movie cold-opens with Brock and Kassady in prison, swapping stories about how they ended up in there
There. 10 minutes of exposition and the setup is done.
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>>91088064
Neither of those were attached to the Spider-man franchise to begin with. Stop being retarded.

Nothing changed for the spider-man franchise other than they can crossover to help promote the brand.

Sony still owns, manages and decides anything Spider-man related
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It's gonna be successful. They're going to make it black Deadpool instead of a true Venom movie. It's going to be an action comedy about a lovable dickhead anti-hero and they will make money hand over fist.
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>>91088775
>The effects are uninteresting and visually unimpressive
I disagree with this one. The transformation is top notch.
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>>91089843
They could rush it out, but we all know it won't be good.
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>>91085947
>and you just KNOW DC is going to announce something EVEN MORE RETARDED next week

After the success of The Flash's musical episode I'm half expecting them to announce a musical movie.
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Make an R rated Kraven movie instead, retards.
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This is your fault, Marvel. Who told you to sell the movie rights of the Spider-verse?
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>>91090212
Which one? Ben into the Thing? Because I worded it wrong, I meant the effects on the last fight. It was all over the place.
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>>91090443
it was either that or go Bankrupt and have somebody take the rights anyway
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>>91088116
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>>91088991

that's Paul Feig not Kevin Feige

I think it's the guy who directed Ghostbusters
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>>91090247
I'd watch it.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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