One Punch Man's setting is merged into DC. How does this

Saitama stomps everything because that's his gimmick. Gag characters can't be beaten

>>91063321
>now I remember Arale beating the shit out of Vegeta is canon
kek

>>91063321
Can Saitama beat Popeye? That's Popeye's gimmick too.

>>91063866
The rule is that gag characters don't figth each other, or that if they were to figth, they would end being friends

>>91063866
Dunno, we never saw the upper limit of both, they probably beat each other till they realice how silly was the reason for them to fight because they're good guys at the end of the day

>>91063909
One is a hero for a hobby, the other just wants to be manly AF, they don't foght, but engage in a wacky limit breaking contest of feats. Like an episode of Popeye...

>>91063946
>Dented and damaged sale at the market. One can of spinach left...

>>91063043
Immediately gets rebirthed and loses a lot of his effectiveness.

>>91063043
A lot of the other S-ranked heroes are severely outclassed. I could see a bunch of them banding together and becoming villains, now that there are other more capable heroes around who would want to keep them in line.

>>91063909
>They both beat up Bluto

>>91063043
The joke would be that Caped Baldly would still be understimated as fuck, even by Batman and any accomplishment he achieves would be attributed to either luck or another hero doing the job

>>91063043
Some buttblasted Batman writer has Batman kill Saitama because le prep time

>>91064417
>Batman
>kill

kek

>>91063043
He's in Japan so nobody cares, maybe the Chinese Justice League would take offense

Then again, Saitama is underestimated in his own setting so no one will really care

No one is allowed to rival Superman unless it's Batman. Look at Captain Marvel's fall from rivaling Supes to limbo.

Same would happen to Saitama

There's gonna be a lot of dead things in the DC universe.

>>91064751

>Superman
>Saitama
He'd find supes a quaint and would probably want to spar. He'd be one of those entities that only shows up from time time, cause he doesn't give a shit.

>>91063043
Assuming we keep the gag running?

The strongest beings in the DCU decide "fuck it" and they all start showing up on Earth to make a huge spectacle out of being thiiiiis cloooose to just blowing it up. While other heroes rightfully struggle, Saitama gets distracted by something mundane and shows up late, or takes care of the bigger threat while others are distracted by (relative) small fry.

After all the most powerful beings in current DC are exhausted as a resource even more powerful entities are revealed.

OPM hasn't ended so I can't say what'll ultimately happen but that's the formula Saitama works in.

If we forego the gag he gets beaten up by your fictional character of choice and nothing changes really.

>>91063043
not one of these fuckers in this thread addresses the real issue. can he find a better sale in DC than his home universe?

>>91064452
He's done it before.

what if Saitama vs. Arale?

>>91064874
Cant help but picture supes constantly lecturing Saitama on being a hero. JLA is fighting some powerful for and Saitama shows up and punches him into bloody chunks and Supes is all like "what the hell man, you can't do that!"

>>91066167
He'd probably move to Gotham. Rent has got to be dirt cheap there

>>91064230
>Bluto still doesn't die

>>91063043
I imagine something similar to Sentry in Marvel

>>91067380
>Saitama kills a major big bad like Darkseid
>It was just a clone! I am the real Darksei-
>Saitama kills the "real" Darkseid
>That was just an alternate dimension past version of-
>Saitama kills the next real Darkseid
>This keeps happening for a while until the author gets bored and erases Saitama
>Saitama breaks his pencil
>He goes to the bar and has a stiff drink and Saitama is never mentioned again

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>>91063043
The question is could he punch out the Gentry, or the Empty Hand? I mean, you can't really punch such nebulous forms of evil, that manifest through dreams, cynicism, hopelessness, and other negative things.

>>91067629
His abilities, much like the existence of those named characters as individual embodiments of those things, don't have to follow any form of realistic logic, so yes. Everyone's ennui takes form and Saitama punches it and thus the avatar of those abstract feelings is defeated and their attachment to those feelings is severed. Or any of a thousand other scenarios made up by those more familiar.

The only way he doesn't win is if you don't want him to. Saitama is not a grounded character at all. It's like asking if someone could write Bugs Bunny defeating those things. The answer is always yes because people can write whatever they want.

This all comes down to us trying to force the boundless unrestricted nature of imagination to conform to what we think of as realistic or what makes sense to us personally, which is silly because that's the only reason those characters you mentioned came into existence to begin with. The whole scenario is silly from the start, Saitama just makes it more silly.

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>>91067629
>>91063043
Saitama's defined power is unlimited physical attributes. Infinite strength, stamina, speed, agility, etc.

That is his "power" if you were to take him and try and put him into a power scaling chart. If the fight is "Who is stronger/faster/tougher?" the answer is always Saitama.

No amount of physical damage can scratch him, and if its possible for a thing to get punched to death, he can punch it to death in one shot no matter how big or stupid it is. Note that just because he has a punch that can do so, doesn't mean he will necessarily do so on the first punch, especially if he doesn't know how strong his target is. This is how Boros was able to tank several blows, and why Sonic didn't have his nuts explode.

However such a comparison misses the point of Saitama. He's a gag character on one hand, a ridicule of power scaling and shonen on another, and a commentary on existential ennui after 'beating' life on the last. Under that criteria, he can defeat anything, since having something defeat him defeats his entire persona.

TLDR: If you interpret Saitama strictly based on the logical extrapolation of his stated power of "No Physical Limiter" he could punch Superman into squishy giblets but cosmic entities would probably do him in, if you interpret him in light of his concept he could punch out the Superman Thought Robot because there's a sale going on next to the comic shop in which the fight takes place in the comic.

>>91063043
Darksid now only invades on black friday.

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>>91063043
can Saitama beat Powerman?

>>91063866
They both agree to the fight and it freeze frames right as they're about to trade punches like in Rocky 3

>>91068311
Nope. His gag game is stronger from the looks of it.

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>>91068311

The answer is probably The Flash

>>91068451
but Power-man is literally faster than Flash

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>>91068509
as long as Power-Man does not succed in ending this powerlevel fight, The Flash wins

Holy shit this makes up for a perfect Power-Man villian. A guy that makes everyone and everything OP just so everyone can always have a stupid nerd powerlevel discussion

>>91068518
>please
>please
So desperate to get your dick wet that you are begging strangers untold miles away. You truly are the saddest of all faggots.

>>91068596
Power man is the end of the power level fight. The flash is already dead. Speed force is broken so the universe is ending. Power man beat the universe back into shape so now it's fine without the speed force. It had the power man force now.

>>91068596
>guy that makes everyone and everything OP just so everyone can always have a stupid nerd powerlevel discussion
yeah, but Power-man goes into real life and makes everyone a manly adonis that doesn't need to argue on the internet, so Power-man wins

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>>91068675
>>91068683
I see potential for a comic

''Power-Man volume #1! ''No Arguments or Discussions'', for just 16.99$!''

I'd buy it

May as well ask here, what's the appeal of OPM? Like, the whole gimmick seems to be that he can beat anyone and anything with no effort, and doesn't like that. Seems like that joke would get old pretty quick.

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>>91068220
>>91068232
Yeah, that's understandable. But the Gentry aren't comic book monsters, or anything like that. They aren't even a part of the works they appear in. They are akin to an invasive cancer spreading across various mediums so that it can infect everything, and make it like themselves. They manipulate the plot of the story itself in order to use it as a weapon. They don't do 'physical' damage. All their damage is by manipulating the plot, and corroding it until it's nothing more than an unrecognizable mess of cancerous flesh, and ruined story, that mimics their own twisted existence. Saitama may be a VERY powerful character, a gag character with no true defined limits, but at the end of the day he's just that, a character. Something the Gentry excel in breaking down.

>>91068858
There are some mysteries and plot developments outside of villain of the week type battles to keep things interesting. Just because Saitama can beat everyone doesn't mean we know everything that's going on in the setting. Saitama is not all knowing and all seeing and can't be everywhere at once.

What's the deal with the Mad Cyborg? What's up with the weird secret organization behind the scenes? Who is Blast? Who is the God that gave hobo emperor his powers? Where did Garou go and what will he do now? Etc etc

It's also about the struggles of those around Saitama and their growth, like Genos, Blizzard and Tornado.

Also there is humor that often takes advantage of the lack of tension, like King.

The funny thing is when it comes to Saitama himself the fights are an afterthought. It's more about all this crazy shit going on around him and his being bored of it all. There is no challenge and no tension when it comes to Saitama himself so he finds himself feeling like an outsider in his own story, as or more concerned with the mundane day to day of his personal affairs than these SUPER SERIOUS VERY DIRE circumstances that everyone else is panicking about.

Not that there aren't cool fights, but Saitama exists in the story mostly for a different purpose than that. It is fun to see someone like Garou struggle against him after a shit ton of build up and have no fucking idea what's going on, but in the end it comes down to a conversation on what super heroes are supposed to be and why this guy, of all people, is what represents that.

But yes this isn't a story where you can root for the main character hero and worry about the outcome of every fight. There are characters to do that with but Saitama isn't one of them. And he hates that.

>>91068858
Compare OPM to DBZ.

Saitama would be Goku. The "Resolve fight" button that is never there to begin with for whatever reason.

It's the supporting cast, plot, etc that matters more.

>>91069385
>But yes this isn't a story where you can root for the main character hero and worry about the outcome of every fight
desu you can't do that in any cape comic

>>91069343
The problem is you think stories have to play by those rules. Do you think there is a hard limit to the imagination? Of course not. So anything you choose to define as a "character" can be beaten, depending on how the story is told. There is always *something* that can happen, some scenario be it humorous or otherwise that can dispel whatever bullshit you just thought up. That is the joke behind something like Power Man or Saitama or any character like them.

The harder you try to justify your invisible sadness creatures as totally unbeatable, someone else could try just as hard and justify them not getting their way. Because this is fiction, and there are no hard limits besides the ones you try to impose.

Also I'm pretty sure the Care Bears could beat your guy. It sounds right up their alley.

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>Its a One-Meme Man can beat anyone thread
>His greatest feat is planetary level

They never found an upper limit of strength for Final Crisis and All-Star Superman either. Can he be expected to punch out gods and reality warpers?

>N-No, you see the joke is that-

And Batman/Superman/whatever Superhero will always find a way to win and defeat the bad guy.

Why does One-Meme Man get his plot to override the plot of other characters he's fighting against?

DC has a hard policy of Superman never losing crossover fights to other characters. It's actually one of their rules for writing crossovers for them. Does that mean Superman wins every fight ever?

You One-Meme fags are sub JoJo fags.

>>91069703
>The rules for the Gentry are that if you're fictional universe is impoverished on imagination and consists of nothing but endless trials and ennui they kill you and fuck your corpse

>One-Punch Man is all about a guy bored because there's no challenge


They get fucked like Earth-Me got fucked in Multiversity. Maybe an adjacent universe will save them.

>Saitama is only unlimited physically
His story ain't over yet so its a bit early to treat that logic like it's a hard fact. His lack of physical limits already makes absolutely no sense and is essentially unexplained, so at the moment I think it's safer to take the core concept of "This character has no limits" and keep running with it. But if you choose to interpret it differently and add restrictions it is your prerogative to do so.

>>91070005
>His greatest feat is planetary level
And the story isn't over. We're just running on his stated potential, which is defined in his story as limitless. He's never been shown to struggle with anything so we have no feats with which to determine any sort of upper limit. We just have the gag that he isn't supposed to have any.

Superman is supposed to be somewhat grounded so we're supposed to think in terms of him having to try to achieve his feats. Superman displays effort. Saitama is a different type of character entirely.

>>91070196
>Final Crisis and All-Star Superman
>Grounded and displaying effort

Are you high right now?

If you want to take "no known limits" to mean there are no limits for Saitama then several incarnations of Superman are his equal.

>>91070005
>His greatest feat is planetary level
And he wasn't trying.

>>91063043
There's now a giant Japan shaped continent siting somewhere in the world, I can imagine Aquaman flipping his shit about what that does to currents and shit.

>>91070196
>>91070437
Ignore all feats posters.

>>91070071
Hmm I feel like part of One Punch Man is trying to find a purpose after seemingly mastering your craft. Saitama became a hero for fun yet he is arguably more genuine than most pro-heroes.

He's not in it for the fame and he'll still support the little guy even when he's bored.

>>91063866

Popeye punched a bear and turned it into a pelt shop. Multiple pelts. And a shop. From a single bear. Popeye is a spinach powered punching reality bender.

>>91070394
But the joke isn't that Superman can beat anything without trying and he's bored. That is Saitama's whole shtick. For Saitama as a character, no limits is what has always defined his existence. For Superman in most cases it's a result of several definite factors which can be traced back to a long sequence of events and is supposed to make sense in-universe.

That's the difference. Superman is written to make some modicum of sense to the reader, so he is explainable. Saitama doesn't make sense even in the context of his own story. There is no good explanation, he's just pure "no limit" sans any real reason. As far as we know he isn't bound by any sort of logic or rules or definition like Superman is.

It is defined power that comes from somewhere vs. undefined power for power's sake.

>>91070670
The end result is still guy with strength that doesn't seem to have any limit.

>>91063866
They dont fight
They square up and are about to fight when Popeye realizes he's out of spinach and Saitama realizes its the last day of a produce sale, then they go grocery shopping together

>>91064382
So he basically becomes Booster Gold

>>91070771
No he becomes Green Lantern

>>91068858
Because Saitama isn't the sole focus and you get moments of true heroism like Mumen Rider trying to fight the deep sea king

>>91063866
No. Popeye's no limits game is stronger than Saitama's. He would finally fulfill Saitama's wish for a good fight and Caped Baldy would hang up his cape because his character arc is complete. Popeye wins.

Power Man does beat Popeye though.

Saitama probably wouldn't leave Japan, so he and the Hero Association mostly take care of that country's problems and the JL doesn't have much reason to interfere unless it's something huge and they need to band together.

Genos and Cyborg hanging out would be fun.

>>91070005
>trash talks OPM because "it's stupid he wins, he's not that tough"
>b-but Superman is the strongest, the company contracts say so
Superman being unbeatable is the worst thing to happen to that character especially since he's supposed to be taken somewhat seriously, prove me wrong

>>91070979
His best stories are when he's unbeatable though.

All-Star

Final Crisis

Strange Visitor and several other stories from the Adventures of Superman series

Joe Casey's Run

Consider yourself proven wrong.

>>91070979
Worst thing? No. The worst thing that ever happened to Superman is Quest for Peace or Superman 64.

>>91069703
The harder you try to justify your invisible sadness creatures as totally unbeatable, someone else could try just as hard and justify them not getting their way. Because this is fiction, and there are no hard limits besides the ones you try to impose.

I'm not trying to justify them as being unbeatable you senseless OPM wanker. The Gentry WERE destroyed in Multiversity, but that took actual planning, and a whole host of heroes from all across the Multiverse to achieve. And their master The Empty Hand went "No", and the Gentry were immediately revived. The thing with the Gentry is that it doesn't matter if your setting is filled with rainbows and sunshine, they will twist and warp it, until everyone is an utter asshole constantly propagating war and strife, until it thins the veil enough for the Gentry to enter and consume it. They inevitably corrupt EVERYTHING, no matter how stalwart and pure it is. Nix Uotan is a wonderful example of how easy it is for the Gentry to corrupt people with metahax powers. So stop senslessly wanking OPM as that setting that can beat absolutely everything. It most certainly isn't the end all be all of fiction.

>>91071066
>Hating on Quest for Peace
Fuck off back to Listverse.

>>91071063
Please, the best parts of all star have little to do with "durr he da strongest" and detract from the human moments that make it a better story
Do you really think "he's not actually dead, he's just a disembodied consciousness living in the sun maintaining machinery" is a good ending

>>91063043
He jobs to Batman

>>91071305
>His human moments
Which work because he's invincible. He has no challenge so he can focus on the struggle of being who he is.

The whole thing is a callback to the Silver Age where Superman could break infinity and Amazo couldn't copy his powers because he was too super and the Olympian Gods were jealous of his powers.

>He hated the apotheosis ending

Wow. It takes a kind of skill to have opinions this bad. I'm impressed.

>>91071211
You keep leaning on those rules like they are some untouchable gospel. They aren't. Why are you even in a versus thread? What point are you trying to make?

Enjoy your book and don't worry about limitless gag characters whose existence is defined by beating super overpowered entities effortlessly. You are done here.

>>91071263
If you actually liked Quest for Peace, can I ask why? I don't see how anyone could seriously think it was good. I'm shocked anyone else in the thread even watched it.

>>91071424
>Enjoy your book and don't worry about limitless gag characters whose existence is defined by beating super overpowered entities effortlessly.

I get annoyed when OPM wankers start to insinuate that Saitama can beat anything and everything. I have even seen people say that he could beat Lucifer Morningstar, or Azathoth. It is absolutely ridiculous, and makes it utterly impossible to discuss the setting without retards trying to say that Saitama is some form of God. So I would much prefer if you could stop acting like a smug self-entitled asshat because your dry, bland caricature of a character is supposedly all powerful.

>>91063866
Popeye can't even beat Bluto.

>>91071364
>Which work because he's invincible.
>and then thinks others have bad opinions
Just to use another OPM example go take a look at Mumen Rider, his humanity and heroic moments carry all that much more weight because he's not super powered in anyway, he's just a guy on a bicycle, Supermans contract enabled win against everything no matter how stupid cheapens his character with all the writer wanking that happens and people like you being autistic about how he needs to be the best at all times no matter how much it invalidates everything else in the DC universe

>>91071715
>Saitama is some form of God
That's the joke you fucking autist

>>91071715
You came in here to be annoyed? Weird but okay.

Power level and versus threads are retarded anyway and Saitama is a perfect example of why you shouldn't bother.

>>91071716
Bluto in a world without Popeye would be worshipped as some sort of God.

>>91071790
>invalidates everything else in the DC Universe

>One-Meme's power level doesn't invalidate everything else in his universe

You're holding one standard for One-Meme and another for Superman. One-Meme is allowed to be all powerful because that's his thing but Superman can't even though that's his thing.

Make up your mind. Either infinite strength characters are ok or they aren't.

>>91071935
Saitama is allowed to be all powerful because he's in a comedy series and isn't meant to be taken seriously
Superman is ostensibly a serious hero in a universe that is supposed to have actual stakes and danger but his treatment by wank writers and fans like you that eat that shit up and ask for seconds have ruined his character
What does heroism really mean when you have essentially nothing to lose? Hell, OPM even delves into that and instead of appreciating that others are expanding the genre you get autistically upset because joke characters can beat Superman

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>>91072197
>If a character can punch infinity it means there's no point to his heroism, it means there's no stakes or drama

You don't read Superman comics do you?

Admit it. You don't.

Type the words.

>>91070771
I would love Saitama/Booster Gold Adventures. Saitama/Plastic Man would be enjoyable as well.

>>91072389
this

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>>91063043

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>>91072511
>>91072389
>>91072197
Joe Casey's action comics run made Superman a pacifist.

He never threw a single punch. He was so powerful that he did pic related.

And it was one of the greatest Superman runs of all time.

why didn't any heroes die in OPM?

there were at least four B and C listers that should've been killed by the beatings they got, specifically against sea king

>>91072598
>Kirito
>Waifu bait from Attack on Titan

>No Kamen Rider
>No Ultraman
>No Devilman
>No Cyborg 009

Weebs can't do a goddamn thing right can they?

>>91072640
They do, just not on screen since it's serves no purpose as of now. They people who fought Sea King were superhuman in someway, so it makes sense they may have survived

>>91072389
I'm not the guy you've been arguing with about the merits and demerits of Superman being an untouchable God played straight, but I have not read the Superman comics you mentioned. They never much interested me, and based on that panel you posted I doubt they'd be my cup of tea.

I loved the 90s Superman cartoon on WB though. That was the good stuff. But people look for a lot of different things when it comes to a franchise as ancient and endlessly reimagined as Superman.

>>91072640
>why didn't any heroes die in OPM?
Probably because it would negatively affect the tone. It is the same reason everyone thinks King is an unstoppable power house, or why Sea King's nipples were hearts, or why there is a super powered prison rapist that catches villains to build a prison sex harem.

>>91067519
Bluto could take Saitama's beatings and live.

Bluto is the unbreakable rock, the unkillable foe.

He couldn't beat Saitama, though, but he might give him a bit of satisfaction, just being able to live through numerous punches and keep fighting.

>>91070005
>feat

Abandon ship, everybody, this is that one autistic (literally using the word here) guy that's been shitting himself trying to wedge himself into every single OPM thread for the past two years or so, using the same terminology and the same stale arguments the entire time, with "feats" being the obvious red blinking light identifying an anon as him. That, and the "psh nothing personnel kids" pictures.

Let's see did he...wow, he didn't even mention DBZ in this post. He's stepping up his game. About 80% of the time, he's ranting about how Yamcha could beat Saitama, then writing a doctoral thesis on just how weak Saitama actually is, yadda yadda yadda, on and on and on. He has brought up Superman in the past, though, so I guess this thread fits him pretty well, too.

>>91070527
Yes, this.

>>91064478
THIS

>>91072389
>ignores the point and doesn't counter it
>y-you dont even read Superman
You have no argument, you know you have none, get tell your handler you threw another autistic fit and need some cool down time in the lego room

>>91072708
There's a new generation of weebs raised on light novel adaptations, anything they get right is by accident

>>91074519
Your point was "what does heroism mean when he has nothing to lose?" But Superman has many things to lose. Lois, his son, the Daily Planet, his identity, his reputation in the eye of people, his world.

Again, it's not the powers that make Superman Super.

Now type the words Anon.

>>91074586
Except those things are not in danger due to power bloat, he's faster than the Flash who literally can arrive before he leaves
Bloated power = no stakes = lessened impact of the heroic actions he takes
You still haven't refuted it and your desperate "say the words" betrays your inability to think of an argument and is stalling for time

>>91074586
Not him but Superman is so goddamn powerful, the only way for him to lose any of those things is if the writers decide to write in a way for him to lose.

I mean, we're supposed to go in expecting there to be stakes, but it's fundamentally impossible to create stakes when you're so powerful that the beings that can actually defeat you can be counted on one hand.

Like what, you think that anyone's going to shoot Lois when she's married to a dude who can hear his father's heart stopping from several miles away, hear the sound of a wristwatch going off while surfing around the Andromeda galaxy, or fly fast enough to reverse the flow of time?

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>>91074519
>Refutes your point that Superman has no drama and no stakes because Superman has really super powers by showing a pic of Superman telling his son his powers are secondary to his character and consoling him on accidentally frying the family cat.

>Has a temper tantrum

>>91068232
>If the fight is "Who is stronger/faster/tougher?" the answer is always Saitama.
Not really - that's a speculation. One-punch Man is less of a gag people make it be.
He is not being shown as "infinitely" stronger than his enemies - because this way there would be no enemies who could've taken his regular weak punches and live - he's just "much" stronger.
The upper limit isn't known and is totally up to the ONE, but so far it's implied to exist and who knows how high it can be - Saitama may end up not even being FTL.

>>91074722
>samefagging because you are autistic about Superman

>>91074696
>Those things aren't in danger

But they are. Look at the Joe Casey run you didn't read where he never throws a punch. First story is about Satanus turning Metropolis into a Doom level. Another story is about the Hollow Men sucking the soul out of people. Another is about how Superman and other heroes save an Earth that's moved away from the sun. These are problems that he couldn't solve by punching things.

Two of the best ones are about Superman confronting his golden age self and Superman having to deal with President Luthor ordering him to invade a country. None of it involved fighting.

Superman stories are about him solving weird problems. They aren't an endless shonen stream of "let's you and this guy punch each other until one dies".

>Bloated power=no stakes

Not at all. He just fights problems that can't be solved by punching, be it people with reality warping magic or subtle character problems like raising his son and being a good dad.

And sometimes they do do the DBZ thing and have Superman fight guys that have his powers but are evil. There was a lot of that in the Nu52 with him fighting Wraith and Darksied and H'el and Ulysses and Helspont.

Take a guess why his numbers went up when rebirth moved him away from that stuff.

>>91074720
>Is if the writers decide to write in a way for him to lose

Isn't that with every fictional character? Think about what you just typed.

>Anyones going to shoot Lois

There was a great story about her getting shot actually. And Final Crisis was about her on her deathbed-the same Final Crisis where a lot of his high end moments come from.

>>91074921
>Superman is great because the writing is shitty and inconsistent with his power to force drama
Great argument you have, are you sure you read Superman or do you just get trades of big stories after the fact

>>91074722
With that in mind, I feel as though boiling the character down to a versus thread really misses the point of the version of Superman you're touting. But that same argument could just as easily apply to Saitama given the nature of his depiction.

>>91075016
>Writing is shitty
No.

>Inconsistent with his powers to force drama

Superman writers usually care more about telling the kind of story they want to tell, not power levels. John Byrne wanted to tell a specific kind of story with Man of Steel and so he lowered the powers because he wanted the Clark half of his persona to dominate and used the lower power level to underscore this fact. You see the same thing with something like American Alien. Or take the JLU cartoon where they nerfed Superman to help the other members stand out.

Other writers like a Superman that's basically a factotum. Joe Casey wanted a Superman that never had to throw a punch and could only solve things through creative solutions so he made him powerful enough to vibrate merging universes away. Grant Morrison wanted a Superman so powerful his story broke the bonds of his world and piloted a robot to kill a cosmic vampire to make a point about how stories can impact the real world.

I'm sorry that you're so autistic about consistent power levels across 75+ years of stories that it blinds you to the actual content of those stories. That's very sad.

I mean really, if someone gave you Strange Visitor to read would you REEEEEE because Superman outlives everyone in the universe and holds back entropy with his bare hands because whatever Superman was your favorite couldn't do that? Would you REEEEE if you read Death of Superman where he gets KO'ed by an exploding gas station because whatever Superman was your favorite would have been fine?

>>91074802
You assume that there are "implied limits" based on his ability to hold back at all, while others look at the same and take it to mean quite the opposite: Even his holding back is enough to put planetary threats on the ropes without effort, so it suggests boundless potential.

So this has gone from Saitama vs. x to 'my speculation vs. your speculation.'

>>91074921
>Isn't that with every fictional character?
No.

In a well written story, the protagonist will have limits for how much their powers are allowed to affect the story, either because of an inherent weakness in the way their powers work or by limiting how much influence the hero has on the plot as a whole.

For example, in several arcs of OPM, Saitama is either busy fucking about with some other stupid thing or he's too lazy to deal with a problem until it's suddenly knocking on his door and the tension comes from the fact that other heroes have to deal with a threat that can take on A or S-class heroes. It's what made the sea king and the Boros arc so memorable.

With Superman though, unless the writers just decide to forget how powerful they made him, like how he can move as fast as the Flash or how he's strong enough to lift a book of infinite pages, nothing bad should ever happen unless it's a planetary or galactic threat that's too large to stop at once.

>>91075264
>Unless its a planetary or galactic threat too large to stop at once

Gee wilikers I wonder if maybe he tends to deal with stuff like that a lot in his stories?

You think he just spends his time fighting bank robbers? Exactly how weak do you think his rogues gallery is?

>>91075215
Consistency and good story-telling are not supposed to be mutually exclusive anon, and all you're doing is making Superman look like a shitty character, which is already bad considering MoS and BvS is still fresh on people's minds.

The fact of the matter is, Superman stories have no stakes, because if the character were to display a consistent power level, nobody in the universe would be able to deal with him because he could just speed force his way back in time and punch you in the face with an infinite mass punch before you pull the trigger to shoot Lois.
>>91075338
You're reaching if you consider the bulk of his rogues gallery to be planetary or galactic threats anon. Even Doomsday can only do so much damage as a singular being and he's powerful enough to mortally wound Superman.

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>Superman is such a lame character his stories don't have any creativity or stakes or drama

>>91064452
>>91066181
It heavily depends on which timeline we're talking about, but I think all iterations of Batman would see Saitama as too much of a threat to leave alone. He still keeps tabs on Superman even though he trusts Superman.

>>91075402
>Because if the character were to display a consistent power level

By which you mean the power levels of a Joe Casey or Grant Morrison Superman.

Maybe, just maybe, they get around that hump by presenting him with the kind of threats and problems a man with infinite strength would have to struggle to deal with?

No. I'm sure those critically acclaimed runs are just page after page of blank, boring material.

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>>91075439
>Superman is such a lame character his stories don't have any creativity or stakes or drama

>>91075264
The best example of Saitama late to the party were the events leading up to Saitama vs. Garou. Come to think of it, he showed he was easily faster than Lightspeed Flash in that arc, though I forget if LSF movements are actually light speed or just approaching it.

>>91067283
Arale wins. Saitama's gimmick is being overpowered while Arale's gimmick is being able to toy with anyone. Worst case scenario, she frustrates Saitama to the point he accidentally punches/beats himself.

>>91075503
Saitama vs. Garou was amazing. I like the increased build up to the Monster Association in Murata's version but I am really looking forward to seeing that Garou fight in Murata's style.

>>91075439
>>91075469
>>91075498
The writers most likely forgot that he's powerful enough to lift a book of infinite pages or move at roughly the same speed as a dude who can outrun the speed force version of death itself.

Give it up anon. Nothing you say or do will ever make Superman a compelling character because the only way that you can make his stories have stakes is if you purposefully nerf him so that he cannot use his full powers on something.

Tbh, this is a problem with a lot of comic book characters in DC and Marvel as a whole so don't feel too bad, it's the natural consequence of having no quality control and allowing different writers to pen their personal interpretations of what makes the character compelling every few months.

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>Superman is such a lame character his stories don't have any creativity or stakes or drama

>>91075503
>Lightspeed Flash
The anon that translated that in the webcomic just wanted it to relate to Sonic's name so it was really off. It has nothing to do with speed and the other name "Flashy Flash", while dumb, is closer to the real name.

Now that I think about it, all 3 translators for the OPM manga and webcomic aren't that great.

>>91075593
Or they just give him threats appropriate for a person of his power level.

Like in those books you didn't read.

Type the words.

>Having no quality control

Is that why Superman sells more than One-Punch man?

>Allowing different writers to pen their personal interpretations of what makes the character compelling

It's extremely telling that you see this as a bad thing and not a good thing.

>>91075646
see >>91075593

>>91075710
>He thinks that story had anything to do with power levels

You didn't read the story.

>>91075234
I'm not the other anon but I get their argument. A fraction of infinity is still infinity. Therefor Saitama's powers aren't infinite.

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>Superman is such a lame character his stories don't have any creativity or stakes or drama

>>91075706
>Or they just give him threats appropriate for a person of his power level.
The problem is that you can only do so much with a dude who has infinite strength and infinite speed, especially when you consider that he has lifted infinity TWICE, can expand his heat vision to take out an army in seconds, can focus his heat vision to lobotomize people, is durable enough to survive a nuke to the face, and has access to X-Ray vision and a plethora of other useful abilities.

Also, if it's a threat that's a threat to Superman then how in fuck is anyone else supposed to take care of it? And when Superman inevitably defeats that enemy and another enemy shows up, what the fuck is the rest of the JL supposed to do?
>Is that why Superman sells more than One-Punch man?
What does that have to anything?
>It's extremely telling that you see this as a bad thing and not a good thing.
It is when it causes inconsistencies as everyone has their own interpretation for who he's is supposed to be.

powerlevel fags deserve to die. Why bother arguing which fictional character is stronger when the characters are not even standardized due to different universes and mechanics.

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>Superman is such a lame character his stories don't have any creativity or human emotion

>>91075688
>Now that I think about it, all 3 translators for the OPM manga and webcomic aren't that great.
Nah, UK's translation is the most accurate while making the names not sound too stupid. He's done the best barring someone misinterpreted(due to the webcomic) kanji and name choices

>>91075762
That's a good point. It explains why every character that is infinitely fast or infinitely strong is complete bullshit and why calling something infinite is just a buzzword in nearly every case where it's applied, because in almost every single case the character can still control the amount of force they use to walk or touch something.

>>91075854
Yeah shit like those Death Battle videos are the worst

>>91075737
Give me one compelling story that can be told about a hero who has infinite strength, infinite speed, super hearing to detect heartbeats from space, and an eye laser that can take out armies or lobotomize people from several yards away that doesn't involve the author purposefully nerfing him so that his powers are just weak enough for him to actually consider whatever's in front of him a threat.

The answer: you can't! Unless you either nerf him or make a threat that's equally powerful (at the cost of every other hero being left on the sidelines) you can't make a compelling story because we've already established that he should be more than capable of stopping most threats.

Hell, Flash evacuated an entire city in the time it took a nuke to go off so I can't even say that planetary or galactic threats will be enough anymore since he could theoretically move fast enough to take out an entire army the moment they break through the atmosphere.

>>91075854
We're doing a disjointed shitfit story time of overrated Superman comics in here, what are you talking about?

>>91075835
The feats you list tell me that you only know Superman from Deathbattle and are still asspained over him killing Goku twice.

>You can only do so much

There are a lottttt of stories featuring an all-power Superman. A lot.

Now if you want to pick out a specific story featuring an invincible Superman and tell me what the writer did wrong that would be fine.

But you haven't read any stories have you?

>What the fuck is the rest of the league is going to do?

I know you don't know a lot about these characters outside maybe the cartoons but Flash, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Martina Manhunter-they're all really, really powerful in their own right.

Did you read Morrison's Justice League? Every arc has someone capable of fighting the entire league. Tell me what he did wrong there. Tell me.

>>91075956
Deatbattle has done more to poison an entire generation against Superman than Snyder's movies.

How they ever came to the conclusion that an autistic fight monkey is more of an everyman character than a father with a 9 to 5 job I'll never know.

>>91075956
Death battle dedicating two episodes to Goku vs. Superman has forever ruined Superman as a character for me. Like how are we supposed to take any threat seriously when Supes is capable of doing literally impossible stunts every waking moment?

>>91063866
Popeye needs spinach

>>91076004
>Evacuated an entire city

And nearly killed himself doing it.

>One compelling story

What did you not like about....let's start with All-Star. That's something most casuals read when they start looking at Superman.

What did you not like about All-Star Superman?

>>91064382
> League underestimate Saitama / Don't give credit to Saitama
> Batman gives a smug smirk because he knows

>>91075922
>>91072628
>>91076049
If it makes you feel better, I found Superman lame as fuck long before Death Battle existed and you're doing more to reinforce that notion than they ever could have in your wildest dreams.

>>91076075
Realistically, Saitama would just take Popeye to the store during one of his sale days and just by him spicanch. Then they become buddies

>>91076049
>Now if you want to pick out a specific story featuring an invincible Superman and tell me what the writer did wrong that would be fine.
ahem
>Isn't that with every fictional character? Think about what you just typed.
Even if you don't want to admit it yourself, you're already aware that Superman is invincible and can only be defeated if the writers go out of his way to make him lose.

Just saying man, hard to take you seriously when you're getting this autistic over a poorly written superhero getting his ass beat by an anime character whose not even meant to be taken seriously.

>>91076150
Anon, I don't want you to not find Superman lame.

I want you to type the words.

>>91076159
Shit, even if Saitama knew Popeye wasn't super buffed unless he got spinach, he'd still get the guy spinach because he'd want a fight that'd be fun to do.

>>91076191
Still waiting for you to pick a story with an invincible Superman and tell me what the writer did to make you not like it.

You've atleast read All-Star right? Everyone's read All-Star.

>>91076096
>And nearly killed himself doing it.
Doesn't fucking matter mate. Flash "almost killed himself" in the same way that most stories have a "forbidden secret technique" that will kill the user yet doesn't because they limit broke or did something that nobody else thought to do because...reasons.

If the Flash can do it, and Superman is roughly the same speed as him, and Supes doesn't have the limits that being a human would create, then why the fuck can't Superman do it in every single fight that he has with anyone who is actually a threat?

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He beats EVERYBODY, stupid.

>>91076220
Why should I entertain your argument when you've already admitted that you're full of shit?

How about you provide evidence to refute yourself rather than banking on the idea that I'd engage you after you've already admitted defeat?

>>91076265
Because he fights people that can fight on his level.

First arc in Morrison's JLA was about the league vs a team of white martians. It escalated until they fought a transdimensional bio weapon created by a race of dead gods older than the universe.

>>91076297
Oh god you didn't even read All-Star.

Did you watch the cartoon atleast? Maybe the Donner films?

>Admitted you're full of shit

Exact quote please?

>Provide evidence to refute yourself

Why would I refute myself? Aren't you supposed to refute what I say?

>Already admitted defeat

Asking that you be familiar with the stories featuring the character you say is lame is admitting defeat?

It's hard to discuss Hamlet with someone that's never read Hamlet anon.

>>91076350
>Exact quote please?
ahem
>Isn't that with every fictional character? Think about what you just typed.
Now that I've spoonfed you, please read what you typed earlier and use that as inspiration to ask why you're defending a poorly written hero so fervently in a discussion that was meant not to be taken seriously.

>>91076613
I stand by what I wrote. Every fictional character can only be beaten by what the author writes. Goku, Sherlock Homes, Power Rangers, anyone. It's a bigger monster or a bigger mystery or a bigger whatever. It's still a big plot device created by the author.

Every fictional character can only be beaten by what the author invents to defeat them.

Think about what you typed. And next time think about what you're about to type before you hit post.

Now are you going to type those words or are you going to give me a specific Superman story we can talk about?

>>91076613
>Meant to not be taken seriously

Meaning "I have and will never read a Superman story and just came here from /a/ to shitpost because deathbattle made me cry so hard I had to give my Goku plushie a hug".

>>91076782
And this is why you should never trigger a superman fanboy, >>91070979, you happy now? Just apologize to him so maybe, just maybe he'll mercifully shut the fuck up.

>>91076864
>Just apologize to him so maybe, just maybe he'll mercifully shut the fuck up.
Autism speaks anon, he couldn't shut up if he tried.

>>91076709
>I stand by what I wrote.
Then you admit that it's poorly written and that you should invest your energy into something else.

>>91076004
Dr Manhattan is far more powerful than that and was interesting as fuck.

>>91076968
>A work with plot devices is bad

Anon this is why I told you to think before you clicked post.

Type the words.

>>91076969
He was also absent for a significant chunk of the story and didn't actually do anything besides killing Rorschach and maybe creating a universe or two at the end.

Dr. Manhattan wasn't interesting, seeing his effect on a world where everyone is a street level crime fighter is what made him interesting.

>>91077042
Oi, now this is just getting embarrassing. Please, read better works where the hero isn't arbitrarily nerfed to create compelling storylines just so you can tell the difference.

>>91077071
>Not interesting
>That entire issue devoted to his history
>Being Billy Pilgrim plus Captain Atom

Holy shit anon what is with your autism against powerful characters?

Spectre is typically stronger than Superman and his Osterman book was great. Dream is stronger than Superman and Sandman was great.

Why are weebs so asspained about western characters being more powerful?

>>91077103
>Arbitrarily nerfed
>Gave you several examples of stories with a full-powered Superman

You are right, this is getting embarrassing.

Does /co/ go to your board and shitpost about muh boring invincible characters and their powerlevels? I mean is that something we do?

>>91063905
Rule is that gag characters are tricked into fighting each other and once they realize they were tricked they go all out on the poor asshole who thought he could make a fool out of them.

Saitama probably would turn Popeye into a shower of blood and guts, but a moment later Popeye's broken jaw would crawl to his spinach can and bite it open, then Popeye's body would put itself together with every spinach munch.

Saitama would stand there jawdropping and asking the reconstructed Popeye to do it again.

>>91077136
You're assuming that because I don't like Superman and don't find him compelling as a character, it makes me a weeb?

>>91063043
Saitama would always be hilariously out of picture when he's needed most but always showing up for trivial things.

Meanwhile, I can im,agine the Justice league would find the entirety of the Hero Association bullshit for their rampant corruption and dependence on a now dead fortune teller and try to bring folks like Silver Fang, Metal Bat, Saitama, and Genos over to the League.

Genos and Damien proceed to get into a backstory battle.

Batman would probably somehow depower Tatsumaki to take down a notch and teach her a valuable lesson (and probably reduce collateral damage)

And Lex might try to capitalize on all the powerful new villains in hopes of killing Superman only for it to work out as well as Aku and all his bounty hunters.

>>91077209
Are you mad that I called Superman trash or are you made that I asked you to read better stories?

>>91063043
I want this to happen just to see how DC's characters react, I would prefer the crossover to be more like a funny comic rather than "Who's more powerful" And if they do that, do it as a joke

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>This entire thread

>>91077289
No. But when you're saying One-Punch Man is by contrast an appealing character than you are a weeb, the same as the deathbattle fags that think Goku is a better character than Superman.

>>91077326
>Read better stories

How do you know there aren't good Superman stories when you haven't read a single one?

>>91077342
>Anyone who likes something that I don't like is a weeb.
Please, read better stories. Being a comic book nerd in this day and age is just as cringey as being a weeb.

>>91077411
>Liking an all-american character who helped bring down the KKK and was one of the earliest Macy's Thanksgiving balloons
>Comparable with liking mango flavor of the month

Anon, one character you can talk to your grandfather about because he's a staple of Americana. The other would make your grandfather scratch his head.

>>91077364
You're assuming that I've never read a single Superman comic just because I refused to acknowledge your deflection based on the fact that you already refuted your own argument.

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>>91077411
Disagree on the last part. Comic bookfags are mainstream, comic cons are mainstream. Being an anime fag on the other hand is still viewed as cringey and autistic with frequent citing of shit like Lucky Star as all anime.

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>>91063866
Herbie Popnecker can beat Popeye and Saitama at once by bopping them with his lolipop.

Herbie is basically Bizarro Christian Chandler: smart, strong, admired by everyone but his dad (he isn't aware of his son's deeds) and always has all the powers he needs to win, plus all women wet themselves for him.

He could even beat Starman. Yeah, the crazy broken guy fom these crazy creepy old comics.

>>91077488
The fuck does that have anything to do with anything? If your grandfather doesn't give a fuck about comics, he'd probably scratch his head at who the fruit is wearing the red speedo outside of his clothes.

He'd probably be wondering why you're pushing 30 years of age yet you're still reading kiddie crap that he grew out of before getting a job, house, and family.

>>91077488
Aнoн, нe вce люди poдoм из Aмepики.

>>91077513
>Refuted your own argument

By saying plot devices are the only way any character can be defeated?

How does that refute my argument?

And why else would you not list a single comics?

>>91077589
Herbie can beat anyone. He's One-Meme Man if he was actually funny.

>>91077603
>Implying the greatest generation didn't watch George Reeves Superman on TV while reading his stories while sitting in foxholes fighting the Japanese

Superman is like Robin Hood or Dracula. The guy has a degree of popularity and immortality other characters will never have.

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>>91077674
>Aнoн, нe вce люди poдoм из Aмepики.

>His grandfather spoke in commie runes.

Was he or anyone he knew ever affiliated with the communist party?

>>91077532
If comic book geeks are mainstream than anime is mainstream as well. There's just as many people who grew up reading Dragon Ball or watching Pokemon as there are people who grew up reading Superman or watching the X-Men.

It's all nerd shit in the grand scheme of things and you'll find equal measures of both bleeding into one another, which is why we have shows like SU that tries to emulate anime at times and anime like My Hero Academia which features a character whose a homage to Western heroes in the form of All Might.

Also, who the fuck even watches Lucky Star nowadays? The last I heard of it was like 10 years ago when youtubers like Bigal2k6 or RandomDCE were a thing.

>>91077691
You're reaching anon. Superman back in the day was shit that kids read after coming home from school.

If a man was seen reading a Superman comic in his 20's/30's back then, he'd be considered an invalid who needed a sound beating just so he'd stop being a waste of flesh and actually went out to get a job and support a family.

>>91077758
>anime
>mainstream
Sorry dude but that simply isn't the case. Most normies stop watching anime by high school but they'll still wear capeshit shirts, watch capeshit live action shows, and see capeshit movies even as adults.

Now how many people do you see going to the theatres to watch the US release of Your Name, talking about the latest Dragon Ball Super film/episode, or wearing anime shirts in public?

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>>91077881
A-ANIME IS POPULAR

I-I AM NOT AN OUTCAST WITH NO FRIENDS

>>91077838
>Servicemen not reading Superman and Captain Marvel as they hunker down on the Iwo

What timeline are you from?

>>91077881
>Sorry dude but that simply isn't the case.
Sorry dude but it actually is the case. I don't know why you're trying to claim that it isn't but the reality is that it is the case.
>Most normies stop watching anime by high school but they'll still wear capeshit shirts, watch capeshit live action shows, and see capeshit movies even as adults.
Are you sure they're normies anon? Because it's not like manchildren is a decidedly weeb thing.
>Now how many people do you see going to the theatres to watch the US release of Your Name, talking about the latest Dragon Ball Super film/episode, or wearing anime shirts in public?
If we're talking about places like the mall, college campuses, or conventions like too-many games or comic-con, quite a fucking bit of people actually.

Most places that sell apparel for capeshit will also sell apparel for anime shit as well.

>>91077998
If we're talking about men from the 20/30's, they should be reading the paper. Like I said anon, comics were something you grew out of, not with.

>>91077881
>US release of Your Name
Anon, capeshit movies have just a teeny-tiny bit higher budget than "Your Name" - US release or not.
Make a Shingeki no Kyojin movie with Avengers-tier level of budget and quality (unlike what japs really made) and all cinemas will be full of drooling normies.
Only weebs think that anime is not mainstream nowadays. Not all of it - sure - but a considerable part is watched by normies. AoT and OPM are notable examples.

>>91063043
I never read much with doomsday but from what I hear
>Kills doomsday with fire
>He comes back immune to fire (how the fuck does he come back?)

>Saitama one shots doomsday
>He comes back
Can Saitama still kill him?

>>91078086
Interesting, but there's a clear way around it.

>"Saitama, your punches won't kill Doomsday this time, he becomes immune to whatever last killed him."
>"... So what if I don't kill him?"
>Saitama still punches doomsday.
>Doesn't kill him, but sends him flying out of the earth's atmosphere at Faster-than-light speeds and he goes careening off helplessly into space.
>"... Hey, he can't fly, can he?"

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>>91078039
>Soldiers didn't read co-


>>91078086
Actual One-Punch Man no. He'd have to find someway to throw him into the big bang like Superman.

One-Meme Man sure. One-Meme Man can beat anyone like John Cena.

>>91078130
Cool, you found one picture of a proto-westaboo reading comics long after he was supposed to. Congratulations.

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>>91078126
He can propel himself through space by kicking off objects. It's how he got back to Earth the second time (I think the first time he showed up in a capsule?). So that wouldn't work, but you're on the right track of thinking.

>>91078130
>>91078177

>Look at this Polish corporal about to fight in the 1944 Warsaw Uprising reading Flash Gordon, what a fucking manchild.

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>>91078207
>1944 Paratrooper. Just look at this fucking fag. I bet he died a virgin

>>91063043
He'd probably dig going on adventures instead of getting into fights.

Also, it'd be fun to see him wreck arrogant martial artists like Deathstroke and Shiva.

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>>91078236
>US Marine reading Dick Tracy. Dick fucking Tracy! The guy with the ovaltine decoder rings. What a fucking babyman.

>>91078086

Couldn't Saitama just punch Doomsday so hard that he disintegrates? Doomsday can only come back to life if there's some part of him left to regenerate from.

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>>91078268
>It's amazing we didn't lose WW2 considering we had these fucking no life losers at the Battle of the Bulge.

>>91078285
I would be more worried about saitama letting him rez repeatedly for a challenge

>>91078207
>>91078236
>>91078268
>>91078319
Cool, that still makes up less than 1% of the soldiers involved in WW2, making them the exception to the rule.

I can guarentee that everyone in these photos were made fun of for still reading kiddie crap once their buddies found out about it and even then, I notice that none of these people are reading while engaged in actual combat.

It's like saying that reading manga doesn't make you a weeb because some dude in the air force reads hentai on his phone during his smoke break.

Pathetic.

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>>91078177
Not him but get fucked you imbecile ahaha

>>91063043
He would literally be Squirrel Girl. He'd have his wacky adventures where the cracks jokes and flattens literally everyone, but wouldn't change anything becasuse hes too over powered

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>>91063321
It always bugs me when people call him a gag character.

It's a slice of life story where the main character happens to be god. Calling it a gag manga misses the point.

>>91078285
In theory yeah. Imperiex managed to blow Doomsday down to a skeleton and it took him awhile to get better. But that took a Big Bang level blast (the first time he got hit with a Big Bang it blew him away completely. The second time it left only a skeleton).

Superman then dropped him the next time he showed up, but Superman punches with infinity or close to it.

Then It took two Supermen to put him down.

Then it took a small army of Kryptonians.

Then the universe rebooted because Dr. Manhattan. Then it sort of half un-rebooted because Superman did the fusion dance with himself.

So as to what could take Doomsday down...I dunno, approximately three Saitamas? Who knows?

>>91078402
see >>91078373

>>91078361

>Saitama keep letting DD get stronger and stronger to put up a decent fight
>the battle stretches on for weeks, and then months
>Saitama starts slowing down, leading DD to get cocky as he thinks he's finally got the upper hand
>turns out Saitama was just getting bored
>Genos shows up and tells Saitama that the DVR is full
>Saitama panics and just punches Doomsday out of existence so he can get home before Genos deletes two months of unwatched animes

I'd buy that for a dollar.

>>91077838
>If a man was seen reading a Superman comic in his 20's/30's back then, he'd be considered an invalid who needed a sound beating just so he'd stop being a waste of flesh and actually went out to get a job and support a family.
no they were actually really popular. in fact kids were discouraged from reading comics since there was alot of adult oriented pulp fiction on the market.

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>Lieutenant Frank Hensley reads a comic book after loading cargo on plane, 1950

>>91078373
>Less than 1%

How many photos do I need to post before you give up? I mean I obviously can't find one photo for every man in the army.

>Made fun of reading kiddie crap

I don't think you understand that adults read comics back in the day. It was just another form of entertainment. It's why so many golden age comics were violent.

>None of these people are reading while engaged in actual combat

Who the fuck would read ANYTHING during actual combat?

"Sorry Sarge I got to finish this page of Captain Marvel I'll return fire when I'm done". Like what the fuck?

Are you the One-Punch guy because you sure make bad arguments like him.

>>91078448
He's love Doomsday because Doomsday would get incrementally stronger. He's have to use just a little bit more force each time and he'd love the thought that eventually he'd be a real threat.

>>91078488
>How many photos do I need to post before you give up?
Enough to show me that more than 1% of military men way back then actually bothered reading comics and everything that you've posted aren't just the exceptions to the rule.

Otherwise, I'm just going to assume that you're just butthurt and trying (poorly) to excuse one shit nerd hobby over another because your autism is focused on comics as opposed to manga.

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>>91078130
Not you, but this is the particular comic he's reading btw

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>>91078479
>>91078402
>>91078319

This has now become an interesting thread. Soldiers reading comics!

Here's one from Vietnam. I'm not sure of the comic though.

>>91078529
Sparkler 16? Cool. I knew it was Sparkler but I wasn't sure the number.

>>91078525
>Enough to show me

And that would be what? Because you've been shown an awful lot of pics and not just by me.

Maybe it's time you gave up?

>>91077532 (you)

Fuck, this thread's alive?
>>91077998
Quoting the wrong person, or maybe you misread my post?
>>91078023
>Sorry dude but it actually is the case. I don't know why you're trying to claim that it isn't but the reality is that it is the case.
Nope.
>Are you sure they're normies anon? Because it's not like manchildren is a decidedly weeb thing.
Even neck bearded comic fans are more mainstream than weebs these days, and yeah I'm pretty sure the shit ton of people I see wearing shirts with capeshit related emblems in everyday life aren't all man children, sorry if this is shocking to you.
>If we're talking about places like the mall, college campuses, or conventions like too-many games or comic-con, quite a fucking bit of people actually.
I'm also talking about in casual restraunts, public events, walking down the street, at the park, at the gym, etc. Yes you will see some young people wearing weeb shirts in public, but they're far outnumbered by people wearing capeshit shirts (capeshirts?) not only in their age group but also both above and below it.
>Most places that sell apparel for capeshit will also sell apparel for anime shit as well.
Most places that sell capeshit clothing won't be selling random anime stuff beyond Pokemon which I'm sure you wouldn't count (though I guess you could in a way). And even at places that do, again, anime products are vastly outnumbered by capeshit products.

>>91078043
Would people see something with a fuck huge budget in theatres like an AoT adaptation? Maybe, but it certainly won't be sold on IP recognition as you are (should be?) arguing in this context. Hollywood films based on popular anime/manga/light novels have never been big sellers and that's becuase brand recognition simply isn't there in the States.

Shit like Deadpool and Suicide Squad? Sold on the featured characters alone.

CGfest #53977 featuring Mikasa and Levi? DOA because AoT and anime in general isn't all that mainstream despite what you mistakenly believe.

>>91070005
>And Batman/Superman/whatever Superhero will always find a way to win and defeat the bad guy.
and that's exactly who Saitama is parody of

>>91078568
>And that would be what?
If you bothered to read the rest, you'd see that I clearly state
>more than 1%
in my post.

I dunno man, I think you're just mad that people put comicfags on the same level as weebs for all intents and purposes.

>>91078617
More than one percent all all servicemen in the armed forced during WW2?

You are aware that's kind of a crazy request for photographs right? I'm not sure if one percent were even photographed.

>>91078373
>its an anon can't admit when he is wrong episode
in the modern time and 80's and 90's ya you would get made fun of for being a nerd if you read comics. but back in WW2 era it was comics were just seen as a regular form of entertainment. they didn't have the internet or cell phones back then and you couldn't bring a TV onto the battlefield, for entertainment you were left with radio and comics. alot of these soldiers didn't even grow up owning a TV, they only had the radio, for visual entertainment they would use comics or read story/adventure magazines.
you don't have a concept of history though so you're applying today's sentiment of "comics are for nerds who need to be pushed into lockers" onto the past.

>>91078607
I've seen just as many anime shirts related to Attack on Titan, DBZ, Pokemon, Sailor Moon etc. as I saw shirts related to DC or Marvel heroes lad while walking around in public.

Is it that hard to imagine that both mediums are mainstream nowadays? Is it really that hard to imagine that in the internet age, people can be fans of both?

I mean, I'm sure that most people who grew up during the 90's/00's watched shows like DBZ, Gundam Wing, Yu Yu Hakusho, or Naruto back when it came on during blocks like Toonami, Fox Box, or Jetix.

>>91078664
So then you're admitting that they're an exception, not a rule. I'm glad we could have this discussion so you can see the error of your ways.

Your welcome.

>>91078721
>I've seen just as many anime shirts

Where do you live?

>>91078668
Didn't most radio shows back then feature shit like murder mysteries and pulp fiction? There's a difference between something like Dick Tracy and capeshit like Superman.

>>91063866
Popeye dies of cancer. Years of smoking and only eatting spinach

>>91078749
Why does that matter?

>>91063043
Bugs bunny can beat him
Reminder looney tunesare part of the dc universe , same as Daffy

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>World War II hastened the development of strips and comic books dealing with war and crime, the latter finding a new and avid readership among American soldiers stationed abroad. Being outside the control of newspaper editors, the comic book became increasingly violent and gruesome.

https://www.britannica.com/art/comic-strip/The-first-half-of-the-20th-century-the-evolution-of-the-form

That being said, these soldiers are reading comic books during the Korean War, 1951.

>>91078721
I'm seconding >>91078743 request, I live in Southern California where there's a large Asian population, lots of Mexican DBZ fans, a helluva lot less judgment over looks/clothing because of "muh individual quirkiness", and I STILL don't see even a 10th of anime related shirts compared to capeshit related stuff being worn casually in public on high school aged people and above.

>>91078743
16.1 million served in the armed forces. One percent of that is 161,000.

You're saying you won't believe us that adults read comics back in the day until we post 161,000 pics of men reading comics.

Do you realize how retarded you are?

>>91078769
Sort of. But The Shadow and Superman were crazy popular and lasted longer than Flash Gordon's radio incarnation.

And you have to remember a lot of Golden Age comics combined several comics into one. Superman started out in Action where he shared the book with cowboys and private detectives like Slam Brady before getting so popular he took over the book for himself.

Capes were apart of comics but they weren't really considered their own thing until after WW2. No one would say "I read cape comics". They'd just say "I read comics".

>>91078859
I think you may have quoted the wrong person there senpai. >>91078743 isn't talking about that at all lol

>>91078892
>Do you realize how retarded you are?
The only retard here is you for making promises with your mouth that your legs couldn't keep. Try harder next time kid.

>>91078938
Ah shit you're right lmao, meant to reference >>91078749

>>91078433
>(the first time he got hit with a Big Bang it blew him away completely. The second time it left only a skeleton)
this is bullshit and you know it

>>91078993
Its understandable. This thread's getting pretty stuffy, desu

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>>91078769
comics back then were full of pulp fiction and murder mysteries were incredibly popular. the silver age hadn't even begun yet so comics weren't only just capeshit, they were anything. I have a bunch of my dad's and grandfather's old comics, alot of them were just retelling of classic stories like around the around world in 80 days or 20,000 leagues below the sea.
in fact here is the back of one of them showing all the comics you could order by mail. god knows why the fuck they made a comic adaption of uncle tom's cabin.

>>91078998
It's what happened man. Don't blame me I didn't write Our Worlds at War.

>>91063321
Pretty much this.

You can't just mix settings willy-nilly and have them make sense.

>>91078488
Ignore him. People who go "you must convince me" are just egomaniacs who think their opinion is more important than other peoples'.

All these photos show the awesome historical value of comics. Never actually realized soldiers in wartime read them. Now I want to see GIs reading Captain America while in Europe, or reading Namor while in the Pacific.

>>91078617
Nice try, weeb. Trying to drag us down to your level just because it's lonely down there. There's a reason why billion-dollar-blockbusters are comic films while Dragonball Evolution is a joke. Good luck with your Scarjo Major.

>>91078800
Because there are places that aren't like where you live.

>>91078892
He *is* a retarded troll. Ignore him.

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>>91079252
>Their major motion picture based on an anime rip off of Blade Runner and Neuromancer crashes and burns

>T-The Americans ruined it!

>Muh Whitewashing

I got my popcorn ready.

Ghost in the Ripoff has sucked, does suck, and will always suck. Can't wait for the weebs to go suicide watch as their precious franchise is reduced to a handful of memes repeated on /tv/.

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>>91072598
>>91072708
>No Kinnikuman

>>91079363
Only autistic children let their love for a series be ruined by a bad movie.

>>91071716
He beats him constantly, he just spares his life everytime.

>>91067585
Does DC really have a villain called darks(ide)??

>>91079363
Someone's bitch got fucked by a Jap.

>>91063866
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PE6AIl5hLQ&t

>>91063043
I don't want to read all the shit from animeplebs here, but I'm pretty sure they're saying shit like that
>>91063321
But Saitama can beat anyone only in his shitty universe. He have no power over DC characters. If he is inside of DC universe, his powerlevel gonna be near some street level scum and he gonna be probably killed in Gotham.

>>91070196
>His lack of physical limits already makes absolutely no sense and is essentially unexplained, so at the moment I think it's safer to take the core concept of "This character has no limits" and keep running with it

If you wanna figure out Saitama's power, you just need to carefully look at Garou and Darkshine

>>91072708
It's literally just "popular-in-the-west anime protagonists"

>>91063043
He'd be in section 9 or whatever team that bueno guy is on

>>91063043
saitama gets stronger when he is challenged...because hes a boarder line monster. from the start of the manga he is already bored.

superman has been weakened repeatedly because readers hated how pointless it all was.

superman dies 2 : electric boogaloo kills all DC comics and warner brothers then owns for good no payments superman and batman forwever

>>91063043
>>91063321
Same person. OP's goal was to create a thinly veiled Saitama VS bait thread, but didn't want the OP to be too blatant and be deleted immediately.

>It's common on 4chan to have an off-topic thread on by starting one of the following threads.

>1. Post an off-topic related image and post the text "what is a X that let's me [off-topic thing here] ?"
>2. Ask "what is the [off-topic thing] of [board topic]?"
>3. Make a vaguely on-topic thread yet post an off-topic OP image with the intent on making the OP image the topic, rather than the text. This is typically followed by the OP samefagging asking about the OP image to direct the topic into talking about the image rather than the text.

>>91070005
>Can he be expected to punch out gods and reality warpers?
He kills them in one punch.

>>91082305
He's never fought a God or a Reality Warper.

>anime/manga fanboys keep making things up.
Hmmmm.

>>91082335
His strongest showing is punching away a planet destroying attack.

Which puts him at middle-of-the-road Green Lantern power levels.

>>91067421
Can't beat being a squatter in Z city. Electricity and water is still hooked up.

>>91082344
Just to note though, that attack was going to destroy the surface of the planet, not the planet itself. They changed the line in the anime because anime is usually directed at vapid little cunts who wank to power levels.

>>91082305
>punching something intangible

What would happen if Deadman body jacks him and makes him punch himself?

>>91063043
he'd fit right in in Doom Patrol. they go up against a lot of problems that can't be solved by punching things into red mist

>>91079363
DESU GitS was always pretty shit; Shirow peaked somewhere during Appleseed. GitS isn't told very clearly and all too much of it is just wanking to unaccountable authority and muh terrorists.
It's still pretty, but by no means good.

>>91070740
Someone draw this please.

>>91082217
Stop being retarded, at the very least he's JLA level. Where he places wrt the big powerhouses (Supes, MM, Flash, some occult type, WW?) is an open question.

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>>91082369
His power, origin, and even appearance would actually put him right at home with Doom Patrol.

I'd buy a Doom Patrol One-Punch Man crossover.

>>91082377
>Shirow peaked somewhere during Appleseed

I second that my nigga.

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People are focusing too much on how powerful Saitama is, as opposed to the hijinks that would be created from having him around. This isn't another one of those retarded versus threads, so stop treating it like.
No wonder why people think /co/ sucks nowadays.
Where the fuck did your sense of humor go?

would saitama get his own 5th dimensional imp?

>>91082401
The problem with OPM is that his powerset doesn't give him a lot of utility. JLA guys run into Star Trek type threats where they have to use comic book science to save the day and they got a pretty good toolbox with Batman's toys and Superman's super feats and Flash's Speedforce and Jonn's telepathy and Green Lantern's ring.

Even Aquaman brings mind control to the table and Wonder Woman brings her lasso (which becomes very handy when you need a bad guy to spill the beans or if someone is mind controlled).

OPM just brings "punches good". Which isn't really all that useful.

Like say OPM had to deal with Morrison's Starro. Or the Angel arc. Or Crisis Times Five. All those are situations that can't be solved by punching. Punching would actually make things worse for some of them.

>>91082401
He just defeated few monsters. Any JLA member do it on daily basis. And, again, if he is in DC universe, no author will allow some bold fag beating his characters. So he will suck from anyone.

>>91082440
Mxy would take a shine to him. Super stoic, super bored. Yeah. He's begging for a 5D goosing.

>>91082440
>>91082456
>implying some reddit-tier character is somehow interesting for imps
top lel

>>91071716
Bluto is just absurdly tough

He propably would have taken over the world just by being indestructible if popeye wasn't around

SAITAMA STUCK IN JUSTICE LEAGUE SCENARIOS

1. An angel named Zauriel has moved to Earth and Heaven has started to invade to make him come home. Meanwhile a demon lord is trying to crash the moon into Earth with no survivors! What does Saitama do?

2. Two 5D imps are having a war that threatens to rend reality asunder. What does Saitama do?

3. Dream and Reality are being devoured by a starfish bigger than Australia. Saitama is sucked into the dream world and stripped of his powers, but Dream has offered to help if Saitama proves to a young boy's dream that heroism is real.

4. The US's Ultramarines have been ordered to bring Saitama in dead or alive. They think he's the enemy, but they aren't really evil. What does Saitama do?

>>91078427
Is it really a slice of life if it focuses on the action not the living?

I mean all we've seen of Saitama's non action living is him watching TV and him trying to cook on a budget.
The story really focuses more on stuff fighting.

>>91082575
Nah, he's full of shit.
It's part shounen and part deconstruction.

Plenty of fighting and all that. I don't consider it much of a gag series though, since it's more about characters being influenced by/reacting to Saitama than it is about the man himself.

>>91063043
It depends on how literally you take his abilities. I mean if Saitama's strength is so strong that he can defeat any opponent in just one punch NO MATTER HOW STRONG, then yeah he'd fuck up the entire DCU.

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>>91082575
It can focus on both and has some really amazing small down to earth moments that solidify it as something more than just a gag thing with really amazing art.

It wouldn't be as well liked as it is if it was all gags and no heart.

>>91082335
Doesn't matter, he kills them with one punch.

>>91082360
He punches Deadman and makes him deadier.

>>91082685
>Killing Deadman

Wat

>>91082685
>Deadman enters opm
>punches himself
>opm is dead
nah

>>91082654
>It wouldn't be as well liked as it is if it was all gags and no heart.
riiight

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>>91063043
HOW DO PEOPLE MISS THE POINT OF ONE PUNCH MAN THIS HARD?

>>91082797
>He's stronger than everyone in his world
>So he can beat up this universe full of people that bend reality

Flex Mentallo is what OPM wishes he could be.

>>91082812
You are still missing the point

>>91082812
Homosexual?

>>91082685
>le shit post
I accept your surrender.

>>91082717
Yes, he kills Deadman with one punch. Can't you read?

>>91082737
>Deadman enters opm
>punches himself
>end punching Deadman
>Deadman is deader than dead

>>91082883
It's true through.

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>>91082828
>No the point of One Punch Man is he always wins and he wins because its funny an he's a gag character and its just a joke bro ha ha just a social experiment-

You are missing the point.

Big fish, small pond.

He gets thrown into the ocean if you put him in DC. The dials there go up to 11.

>>91082910
When has he punched a ghost to...extra dead?

>>91082910
But they're both dead. And Deadman is still will be ghost.

>>91082924
I don't understand why you'd go out of your way to be wrong. Why bother to craft such a complicated scheme for powerlevel wanking? Just cut out the middleman.

>>91082305
>>91082685
>>91082910
>>91082989
You're obviously just baiting, so we'll see what the mods think.

>>91082924
He doesn't need to have punched a ghost to punch a ghost.

>>91082941
Nope. Saitama would kill Deadman because that's what he does.

>>91083016
>mods
What do you mean?

>>91083164
We see you waiting for the thread to go further down the pages listing and then bumping with more bait.

>>91079252
>>91079363
Isn't the fact that Hollywood rips off manga an indication of how mainstream anime/manga has become though westaboo?

You also say that as if there aren't multi-million dollar comic book adaptations that aren't a joke (read: Batman Forever, The Green Lantern movie, BvS, etc. etc.)

>>91083164
His power isn't that he beats everything, his power is that he's overpowered relative to everyone else around him.

>>91079265
Again, what fucking difference does it make? It's not like either of us is going to post a video of ourselves traveling through a random part of our hometown while counting the number of comic shirts vs. anime shirts.

>>91083244
>Hollywood rips off manga

Such as?

Are you talking about Ghost in the Shell? A story that is literally Neuromancer with the serial number filed off but with "muh paramilitary" instead of "muh criminal punks"?

Molly>>>>>>>The Major by the way.

You got one big budget manga adaptation that's been in the works forever against a slew of non-manga adaptations. There are more comic adaptations this year than manga adaptations.

>>91083271
There's also that Tom Cruise movie "Edge of Tomorrow" that rips off "All you need is kill."

>>91083304
From 2014?

You want to count how many comic films were in 2014? Or just general western IPs?

>>91083343
You're really really trying hard to claim that manga and comics aren't mainstream mate. Is there a reason for that?

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>>91078207
"Blysk Gordon"

>>91063043
City Z and the rest of his country are way on the other side of the world, so he only ever shows up WAY too late for any Earth-threatening crisis.

>>91072598

>Fucking Kirito

Isn't he literally a broken MMO character with noa ctual power in reality?

>>91084043
That picture was drawn by a baiter and a troll. They likely don't know much about any of the character in that picture, if anything at all. It's a shame they waste their talent on such complete cringe.

>>91063043
Saitama's associates get better costumes.

Not Saitama though. His is all right. In fact, I don't get why people hate it so much.

>>91084347
contrarionism and 'this anime wasn't a mindblowing life changing experience like I'd concluded from how many people praised it so its overrated shit' and just plain shitposting for its own sake

>>91084522
He meant his costume

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>>91083304
Question

How is an adaptation an rip off?

>>91063043
It doesn't. Saitama only works in his own setting where he is allowed to be unbeatable.

The minute you put him in something like DC or Marvel and he has to start playing by their rules he becomes another generic powerhouse. Maybe a good writer who "gets" what his comic is about can still make him work but he's not going to be allowed to completely stomp guys like Darkseid so he stops being One Punch Man" and becomes "Yellow Bald Superman".

The rest of the Heroes association guys could fit in pretty easily but Saitama himself breaks the rules of the DC universe.

>>91084974
When it just pays lip service to the source material, makes unnecessary changes to appeal to Americans, and arguably misses the point of what the original story was trying to portray.

The film "I, Robot" isn't anything like the book. Same with "I Am Legend," or that shitty Hansel and Gretel movie, or most Hollywood adaptations in general.

Then again, this is just my definition but I hope you can understand where I'm coming from.

>>91077674
He probably still knows about Superman, he's at the very least heard of him.

>>91077747
My great grandfather who was a member of the party used their monthly magazine "The Communist" instead of toilet paper because they didn't have any back in the USSR.

>>91085087
>The rest of the Heroes association guys could fit in pretty easily but Saitama himself breaks the rules of the DC universe.
The DC universe has stupid shit like Flash running so fast that he outruns the personification of death made specifically for speedsters, Superman lifted a personification of time, Batman can shoot Darkseid with a bullet that moves faster than an omega beam, and Aquaman is able to control Cthulhu, who is supposed to be so powerful that witnessing him can make you insane.

If anything, Saitama is just DC if DC was honest about the power creep.

>>91077747
Also

>commie runes
I'm gonna use that one.

>>91063043
If a second season even comes out, I hope at the end they just suddenly throw in~
>Portal opens up and dimensional aliens walk out
>They need Saitamas help, but in getting back to their dimension they need to hop through others.
>Saitama agrees, tells Genos not to worry, he'll be back soon.
>Credits roll, cue freeze frames of him blowing the fuck out of all the characters from different anime and cartoons that get routinely brought up in these type of threads by oneshotting their greatest villains with no effort on his face.

>>91085329

Second season's already confirmed, should be happening around fall I think.

Don't get your expectations hight though, author decided to make a filler arc for the manga so they could make a season 2 sooner, it's it's nowhere near as good as the proper webcomic arc that follows season 1.

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>>91085329
>Credits roll, cue freeze frames of him blowing the fuck out of all the characters from different anime and cartoons that get routinely brought up in these type of threads by oneshotting their greatest villains with no effort on his face.

Not if they want lawsuits.

That would just justify the hatred the character gets and make the writer/s look incredibly childish and petty.

Not to mention most of the characters they would probably use would no doubt be from more popular and accomplished franchises, making the whole thing look even more pathetic, like the scrawny nerd who gets bullied and then goes to his room and pretends he's big and tough and beats up everyone and gets all the girls. Pic related.

>>91085726
I'd love to see it just to see fuccbois like you getting triggered because Saitama punched Darkseid, Doomsday, and Emporer Joker in the face with minimal effort.

>>91085258
>Saitama beating the shit out of Reverse Flash over and over again
>just punching through all of his keikakus
>RF gets frustrated, goes back to the future, and retrieves the REVERSE-SAITAMA!
>big fuking duel
>evenly matched mortal combat
>then they take a breather, Saitama asks what RS' deal is.
>he's just a fan from the future that gave his workout a try and always wanted to meet and maybe fight him
>Saitama likes how not annoying RS is
>Thawne tries to egg RS into continuing the fight
>The two Saitamas just punch him so hard, it undoes his very birth.

I'm surprised nobody posted this yet
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0seE9SMZ3P8

>>91085777
I stopped reading at "like you". I will hide your next post without reading it.

>>91085817
Why would anyone post a shitty video like that?

Is this the same person who thinks Sonic can beat The Flash?

>>91086105
No you won't.

>>91086124
>Why would anyone post a shitty video like that?
To piss off Super-autist and fuccbois like you, obviously.

>>91086105
>M-M-Muh safe sp-space
Yeah, go ahead and leave fuccboi.

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>>91084043
He can do all the same bullshit sword stuff in real life because his grandpa taught him kendo and who cares if he was in a coma for years, muscle atrophy doesn't exist
So basically Kirito is as poorly written as Superman

>>91082797
Superman fans have super autism

>>91082615
It's not shonen, action =/= shonen
Yes I know I'm being nitpicky