this is still confusing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vg RVoYMG8U

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Dat eagle though hnnnnggggg

What's confusing?
Respect boundaries and don't take advantage of people that are too drunk/high.

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>>91000795
>these puns

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>>91000795
>Let's get bird-shit-faced and party!

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>>91000946
>Not knowing your limit for alcohol intake
>acting like a child and rejecting personal responsibility
>blaming others for your mistakes

Wew lad

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>>91001059
>someone finally gets it

>>91000795
Men are evil anon. Get used to it.

>Jane was drunk and horny!
>Jack was drunk and horny too!
>Jack raped Jane!

Unfortunately that's exactly how it happens in real life. A woman touches alcohol and is no longer responsible for her actions, A man can drink as much as he possibly can and still be held responsible for his actions.

Just how it goes.

Don't hook up at parties kids, she'll ruin your fucking life and get rewarded for doing it.

>>91001059
So people making mistakes is an excuse to rape them?

Something really bothers me about this video, I think it's the voices and the complete lack of a plot.

The VAs really aren't putting any emotion other than a sort of smugness (like the eagle at the end, she doesn't sound like a bouncer telling someone to get the fuck out, more like someone saying a one liner)

The lack of a plot is pretty self explanatory. Nothing happens, at all.

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Spoiler alert: Drunk sex is terrible even without rape allegations. Don't bother. Literally anything is more fun drunk except sex.

>>91001245
holy shit do I hope this is bait.

>>91001245
Having sex with someone while under the influence and regretting it later is not the same thing as someone penetrating you without your consent.

>>91000795
There's not a single one of these videos with a female harassing a male

>>91001355
It doesn't happen is why, a woman can't rape a man.

>>91001059
>don't get drunk or I have the right to rape you

>>91001384
>Implying I can't rape a man if I wanted to
FUCKING SEXIST PIG.

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>both parties get drunk
>man is still the rapist

>the man is drunk
>woman fucks him anyway
>not rape

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>all these Bird and Bee puns

>>91001549
It's unBEElievable

>>91000795
>couch water pizza
What?

>>91000946
>>91001444
>>91001245
No, it means if you're a drunk chick who is DTF while drunk and all over some guy while drunk and then you wake up sober and realize people will think you're a slut claiming it was rape is a dick move. Don't go to parties where you'll get drunk and try to fuck random guys if you're like that.

>>91001618
Someone should sue because this is how you get someone to pass out and choke on thier vomit.

>>91001624
But what if it also means "don't fuck a chick just because they're drunk and DTF"? What if there was some kind of equity of responsibility that has to be addressed before one party claims to be exploited by the other?

>>91000795
/34/ of huge eagle chick when?

>>91000795
Is this Bojack Horseman?

>>91001338
Bumblebee girl could barely fucking stand dude.

>>91001208
>woman touches alcohol and is no longer responsible for her actions

... Why? Women aint that dumb.

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>>91000795
It's not hip to fuck drunk bees.

>>91001624
I agree with you up to a certain point.

If the girl is just drunk and wild and horny it's one thing, but if they are blackout drunk and can barely even walk there is no way they could possibly consent. This goes for guys too. I can't even remember events that happen when I get that drunk.

Like most things in life there isn't a hard rule/guidline. You just have to use your judgement.

>>91000946
But Anon what if it's the man who is too drunk/high?

>>91002169
Which was a direcr result of alchohol intake which she consumed of her own free will

>>91001245
Right they should both agree they both made mistakes and move on
Thank God there is a rational person here

>>91000795
Bojack Horseman stripped of depression subtext and cynical satire down to liberalwank and animal puns.

But you're retarded if you don't get the message. Buzzed/drunk sex is an ambiguous middle ground and more a matter of personal responsibility, but blackout drunk is solidly in rape territory.

>>91002330
Yeah, I understand that. But she still can't consent when she can barely fucking talk and that doesn't mean you are off the hook for raping her like that.

>>91002330
So if you get drunk and I were to take that tight little boypussy cherry, that's totally cool, because you were drunk and it was your fault?

>>91001245

Gotta learn somehow.

>>91002320
Same goes.

>>91002389
Getting near a woman anywhere except the Philippines is grounds for a sexual harrasment allegation at best
Marriage and families are only for the rich who can afford equal rights in court

>>91002431
Not in the us legal system tho
Probably not anywhere in Europe either

>>91002462
That's very much wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_of_males#United_States_2

>>91000795
The lesson is that women never have to take responsibility for their mistakes.

>>91002462
This isn't set in a courtroom. It's set at a college party. Same goes.

The legal system is all kinds of fucked up all across the board. I could write a full essay about all the bullshit in them that needs reformation. Your example included.

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>have had friends try to get me to come to parties before
>typically refuse or have to go to work anyway

>next day
>they always tell me stories about getting shitfaced and making bad decisions, doing things they regret, telling me they have gaps in memory
>knew someone who wound up in a really bad date-rape scenario and despite both parties being drunk as shit, he's been branded a manipulating date-rapist by other friends that dropped him


>They still try to convince me this shit is supposed to be fun

I legit never understand the appeal of fucking up your perception and acting like a shitweasel in public.

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>>91001132
>>91002204
>>91002330
>>91002517
>All of these transparent angry bitter virgins

>>91002550
Normies gonna norm, anon.

>>91002411
If I consented to it while shitfaced then yeah, it'd be just another drunken mistake to add to the list.

>>91001108
Get what? So, if you get too drunk to be able to stand for yourself, You consider legitimate that I steal all the money in your wallet because you won't even remember who I am tomorrow?

>>91002606
Angry and bitter at what?

>>91002550
Yeah, getting drunk at large parties full of strangers is usually going to lead to bad shit happening for some people. If it's just you and your group of friends getting shitfaced then it's far less likely for bad things to happen. Granted, it might increase the odds of something getting broken, but that depends on the people and how they are when drunk/

>>91000795
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>>91002346
Dudes, couch water pizza

>>91002633
You are going to be very unhappy in life, anon.

Coincidentally, wanna get drinks later? My treat.

>>91001624
>who is DTF while drunk and all over some guy
There is a difference between being tipsy and so drunk you can't even make coherent word.
If she is not able to say yes, she is too drunk to fuck.
>Don't go to parties where you'll get drunk and try to fuck random guys if you're like that.
>Don't go to party if you just wan to to have fun but aren't intereted in sex

>>91002542
Because no women in college ever acused anyone of rape no sir
>The legal system is all kind of fucked up...
But this was done in purpose and there are political groups lobbying to make it even worse
>I could write an essay
Do it, make it peer reviewd, hide it behind a paywalls and let BuzzFeed use it to justify men only taxes so then CNN can use BuzzFeed as source

>>91002659
At women?

It's not hard to figure out anon.

>>91001059
Welcome to substance abuse.

And yes it is date rape if you have sex with someone who is too fucked up to think straight.

>>91002633
>If I consented to it while shitfaced
What if you are too drunk to even say yes? What if you are half-asleep while I am taking your wallet? What if the only reason you are able to stand up is because I am holding you and I am bringing you to your care so I can steal it too?

>>91002758
But I'm not.

>>91002411
If we spent all night flirting together and I made sexual advances and made it pretty clear I want some alone time with you and we both got drunk and both contented yes it would be my fault I got fucked and it would be your fault you fucked someone
If you took me out for beer and wings bro time then we both got drunk and you drove me to your place to molest me in the couch when I passed outthen no

>>91002550
If they are still doing it then it wasn't that bad Anon

>>91002550
Nothing wrong with going out to have a drink or 2. I have done so many times. Never too much where it effects my judgment. Some people just like to get completely fucked up, and they don't even remember what the fuck they did the night before. How exactly is that fun?

>>91002606
If angry bitter virgins are so lame how come you still take their tax money?

>>91002851
What the fuck are you even talking about? Bitter virgins are most likely on food stamps and taking government gibs. Alone and poor.

>>91002770
>What if you are too drunk to say yes?
Then you didn't concent to it, are you stupid or something?

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>Everyone debating shit
>implying pic related isn't what happens to everyone here

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>It's an /r9k/ and /pol/ get mad over a PSA thread

>>91002801
We're talking about the video, anon. Where the girl was so completely hammered she could barely stay conscious, not "we had drinks, got a little flirty and decided to have fun." Blackout drunk, no "yes, please plow me like a wheat field". Just odd mumbling and an inability to do anything regarding decision-making.

>>91002900
Look at all those lame fat nerds spending their lame ass money on anime shit, junk food and anime
I'm totally fine with them spending all that money in kimiko instead of me, how much was that fucking sword???? That's what I make as a waitress in three months
>Yeah I'm fine
>Not mad at all
>I don't want them anyways
>Fucking virgins
give me money please

Instead of arguing let's talk about the 11/10 birds and bees we would get with like the qt eagle

>>91002977
You're even more embarrassing than the average bitter virgin. And delusional.

>>91002689
Couch water pizza sounds absolutely revolting.

Why would I want to eat a pizza that's been soaking in disgusting coach water? Is that why they feed it to you when your too drunk? So you will vomit up all the alcohol?

>>91002962
That video was supposed to teach real life people about real life situations and under the court system it doesn't matter if she was black out drunk or just had a couple beers
The video was overly generous in that regard, most people don't drink themselves into the liver donation waiting lost

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>>91002689

>>91003022
>Fuck you bitter virgin, come out of your cave, leave me a tip and ask me out

>>91003012
The eagle is clearly a lesbian.

>>91002946
>implying anyone on either comes here
I highly doubt that happens.

Also did anyone save the lewds? I need them.

>>91003041
That so, Phoenix Wright? Please, regale me with your first year college student knowledge on this. I'm sure you have some very accurate statistics from only the most reputable sources.

>>91000795
The lesson is it's always rape if there's a man involved, so just embrace it and become a rapist, it's easier that way.

>>91003086
I don't know how to break this to you, Anon...

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I just wanted to talk about fucking the eagle

>>91003066
I'll make her bisexual

>>91003066
>It's a 'be careful around everyone, even friends because rape is more likely to happen amount people who know each other' PSA
I kind of get it but it's kind of fucked there was a full minute of black with the eagle trying to convince her sobbing friend that girls can't rape each other and just to let it happen.

>>91002689
anon i thought you were my meme man

>>91003120
That eagle was pretty sweet

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>>91003094
http://columbiasurgery.org/liver/liver-transplant-waiting-list

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>>91003053

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>>91002977
dude calm down it's just a funny animal cartoon PSA thread.

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>You're now imagining a chunky, thicc bee girl drunkenly choking on your dick while her thicc coat of bee fur warms up your thighs, all while you look into her big thicc black eyes and get a good view of her thicc, butter yellow bee butt

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>>91003151
I am man

>>91003120
I imagine the eagle chick would be easily flustered if a guy hit on her and not used the attention. I bet she'd also poof out her feathers when embarrassed too.

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>>91000946
I really don't have an issue with this but the fact is that the guys who would be doing the raping generally know they're taking advantage of the girl, they just don't give a shit.

>>91001059
>>91001108
They "guy" in the video was clearly not as drunk as the girl at all you stupid fuck

also,

>get drunk
>it is now okay to rape you because I have a hard on for personal responsibility
>except my responsibility not to take advantage of someone lawl

>>91003066
Work for me since I'm a BIRDGIRL

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>>91003195
Can we just post sexy bees already?

>>91003181
I find it funny when women get flustered over not being able to compete with Chinese cartoons
You can dress as nice as you want and wear a bunch of make up, hell throw in those bras that make your tits not look earth and old
You can't compete with what kimiko makes in merchandise in an hour with a year on tinder

>>91003135
Can we get a drawfag on this?

>>91003276
I hate bees so sexy ones would just confuse me, I don't need this.

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>>91002924
No way. You may not have heard but I'm actually considered the cool guy in my social circle. I have a really huge dick and have lots of consensual sex with my attractive peers. They often say that I'm the best they've ever had and that I'm great conversation during.

>>91003280
Not look saggy and old fuck my phone

>>91003280
>I find it funny when women get flustered over not being able to compete with Chinese cartoons
Why do you actually believe this?

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>TEACH BOYS NOT TO RAPE, NOT GIRLS HOW TO NOT GET RAPED

I mean, the kind of guys who would rape a girl don't give a shit wether you tell them to or not, they know what they're doing.

So it's kind of useless to tell boys not to rape since most boys would just take that as a given and the only ones veering from basic decency are pathological rapists.

So doesn't it actually make more sense to teach girls how to avoid getting in a rapey situation and avoid guys like that, since they're really the only ones that have the desire and ability to not get raped? Why bully boys who wouldn't do shit and can't do shit anyway?

>>91003307
>I hate bees

Why? What did they ever do to you?

>>91000795
Don't stick your dick in drunk pussy. Especially don't get drunk around drunk pussy(or else you two might end up in bed drunk). Failure to do so will result in rape allegations and being shunned by society and literally everyone.

In short, alcohol is Satan and touching it will lead to bad things.

>>91003120
I'm getting the feeling she was only into chicks

>>91003368
Probably is allergic to them.

>>91003368
penetrate me and inject venom

>>91003344
Teaching both would be most efficient.

Which they do.

>>91003328
I'm not saying that all women are pretty enough to make a living out of smiling but you never see a model wearing lawyer clothes outside a magazine or a porno am I right?
Must be pretty stressful getting displaced by something designed on twenty minutes on Photoshop by a fat ugly virgin for other fat ugly virgins
I mean attention is better coming from the hot rich guys but there aren't enough fat rich guys to give you 100 likes on your duckface Instagrams sweetheart

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>>91003276
okay

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>>91003307
It's hip to fuck them, anon.

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>>91003368
>bees nest gets stuck outside main entrance to house
>have to deal with getting stung daily due to it
>this has been going on for a year and even called beekeepers which did fuck all

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>>91002977
>>91003280
>>91003409

>>91003444
probably the way they modeled the face but i hate her so much

>>91003423
Well if they look like cosplay anime girls sure.

>>91003444
I like the laughing leopard one better

>>91003463
she had a real life model that was fine, bioware just sucks as usual

>>91002606
>bitter
Why do women and nu-males constantly and specifically use this word?

>>91003120
>>91000892
I tried anon but all the r9k-fags came in after

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>>91003465
You wanna be hip, don't you anon?

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>>91003602
>art of the bee
>none of the eagle
it hurts

>>91003516
because nu males and women are the happiest people in the world
have you ever seen how they get together in massive gropus and march down the streets with their friendship sticks to celebrate diversity of ideas?
did you hear about hugh a nazi? you should be able to hugh nazis because if someone hugged hitler maybe he wouldnt have ended up so powerful and problematic

The boy bird from the first one and the birdshitfaced bee are qts.

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>>91003195
>you will never be a thicc bee girl drunkenly making out with a fluffy and cute owl
>you will never sloppily sucked his thick cock and nibble on his big balls
>He will never lie about having protection while ripping get off your clothes
>you will never grab him in a leglock as you both orgasm as he pumps your full of his hot cum
>you will never hold him down and fuck him even harder because your sense of caution is dulled by the alcohol and force him to keep cumming in you

It hurts.

>>91000795
>so drunk you hold pizza by the cheese and not the crust

maybe its very shittty pizza

>>91003688
silly anon, male birds in the majority of species don't have dicks

>>91003768
And none of them drink or have concepts of self much less rape but here we are talking get about bee tits and hips.

>>91000795
>drinking alcohol
>being drunk
>being a slut
>blaming other for your drunken mistakes

>>91003789
birds and many other animals do get drunk by stealing booze from humans and rape is pretty much the only type of sex for ducks

>>91001059
> rape is having sex with someone without their consent
> there is a clear set of definitions for being able to give that consent
> being drunk violates them because it demonstrably fucks with your ability to make decisions

Its not complicated. Its not a conspiracy. Its the same fucking legal definitions that make drugging the fuck out of someone and convincing them to sign away their house and bank account illegal.

Legally speaking, consent requires being of sound mind. Deal with it.

All this does is make me not want to date, or talk to women. I'm turning into a member of the Eltingville Club.

>>91003914

If being told that you'll have to treat women as if, just maybe, they are people too is a dealbreaker for you? Its probably for the best. You're not ready to date yet.

>>91003826
That's because they confuse it for sugar, they do the same with antifreeze.

Technically the bee wouldn't have any interest in sex at all as they have none of the Queen traits. This falls apart pretty fast if you're looking at it literally.

>>91003914
Keep telling yourself that, anon. It's THEIR fault you're not gonna date anyone.

>>91002656
Teaches me a lesson, doesn't it?

>>91003688
>you will never sloppily sucked his thick cock
You mean his thick cloaca right anon?

>>91003869
So what happens when they're both hammered.

>>91003053
I...i don't know...

>>91004173
Do you want to bring realism into this? That will get pretty abstract /d/ pretty fast.

>>91004211
Let's do it anon!

>>91004194
then they are both guilty of rape
the men has to pay with a twenty year prison sentence and the woman has to pay with the average time women serve for rape charges wich is 0

>>91003823
>you are responsible for making yourself vulnerable in a situation where you know things you would regret would be likely to occur
>but someone else is also responsible for being reprehensible enough to take advantage of your suggestive state of mind

>>91004194
Either party can be seen at fault but most people decide the man is more likely to be the instigator.

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>>91000795
>Time to dredge this one out again for some more (You)s!

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>>91004194
Both reddit AND tumblr dislike this poster for implying male's can't be victims

>>91002901
>>91002901
I am not, but it is that very situation presented in the OP video and the one anon there >>91002330
is stating to still be consent.

>>91004292
>most likely
here is a better solution tho
if the court decides the man didnt rape and the acussation is found to be unfunded then throw the woman into prison for twenty years instead

Sexual reproduction was a mistake
I long for the days when all reproduction is carried out through artificial means and people only interact with one another via virtual reality avatars

>>91004401
There is a problem in your plan though
most people find sex enjoyable and do not wish for there to be less sex

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>>91004365
This poster triggers me something feirce

>>91004401
love and family were mmistakes too
dont get me started on nations, the whole world should work like africa

>>91004194
Technically, if they are both hammered, they are unable to make sex.

>>91004365
That University retracted this poster a long time ago

Give me one (1!) reason for why threads like these shouldn't be deleted.

>>91004527
Because of posts like >>91004500

>>91004527
if these threads should be deleted then every non strictly /co/ discussion should be allowed and steven universe generals and marvel cinematic universe threads would be the only threads not deleted

>>91004527
Because this isn't a comics or cartoon board.

Also because Janice's and mods are looking for SU critical threads to delete

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>>91004500

>>91004580
>Steven Universe General
>discussion

>>91004425
Most people are also idiots
Meth is probably a hoot but the negative effects of it make it not worth the risks for any sane person
We've reached a point in society where the same is true for intercourse and really for any social interaction
If I had my way no one would leave their homes instead interacting through some sort of artificial surrogate or virtual reality forum

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>>91004500
>on model
>bird puns included

I love you anon.

>>91004500
This is offensively bad.

>>91004365
Wait, the next day?

What kind of turnaround was that?

>>91004620
i want to suck petridots tits is still more /co/ related than most /co/ threads
non /co/ discussion shouldnt be banned because most non big two comics center around non /co/ topics so you would be banning any comic that isnt made by marvel or dc

>>91004663
Charged=/=prosecuted
But if you're charged with rape your life is pretty much over anyway.

>>91004684
consent can be withdrawn at an time even weeks after sex happenned

>>91004759
But that's true for you too Your time travelling consent is just as important.

>>91004795
>Your time travelling consent is just as important
im a man, made to penetrate isnt rape

>>91004443
Also true
In a perfect world humans would develop perfect cyborg bodies able to survive without the need for any group
They would exist as a society of one a nation unto themselves
Moving through the universe as a solitary organism
Reproducing by splitting off a shard of their consciousness and placing it into a new synthetic body

But unfortunately because people are idiots they will continue to fuck themselves into oblivion as their duly elected leaders bathe the planet in nuclear fire

>>91004809
Not according to >>91004684

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>>91001059
>Someone is visibly drunk
>"Hey, they might regret it if I bang them. Drunk people often don't make thought-out-decisions!"
>Everything is okay

Holy shit, is it that hard?
>b-but drunk drivers are held responsible
That's them committing a crime and endangering others, it'd be a huge loophole in the legal system if people could get out of punishment for crimes by being drunk.

This is you taking advantage of someone when you know they're fucked up. It becomes an unfortunate grey area when you're drunk too, otherwise it's pretty fucking morally clean cut.

>>91004814
>in an Autistic world
Ftfy

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>>91004500
>On model
>even a pun
You're doing America a great service soldier

>>91004836
>It becomes an unfortunate grey area when you're drunk too, otherwise it's pretty fucking morally clean cut.
If I have learned anything from college it's that everyone at that party would be too fucked up to consent to having sex with anyone be they male, female, or in the case of one unfortunate I once knew a connoli

>>91004958
the point is that if everyone is fucked up who do you punish because nobody was in their right mind and it wasn't something they would normally do

>>91004500
Good work.

>>91004984
So if a woman wouldn't normally fuck you but then has a few to many and decides you are in fact kinda bangable it is still your fault if you, just as drunk, take her up on it only for her to regret it upon sobering up

Because that's what happens a woman lowers her standards and a guy who has been drinking just as much as her pays for it

>>91000795
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8

this will always be the best date rape PSA

>ITT cucks defending girls they'll have a chance with

The truth is that women love rape and care
more about the attention they get from being raped than they do about actually being raped.

>>91005082
Its a crime for a lesser man to dare touch, question or even look a woman wrong, its even a crime when its just a picture of a woman or a drawing of a purely fictituos woman
meanwhile if you are rich and attractive enough you do wathever you want and get love leters instead

>>91005082
No.

But noone here is arguing that point. We are arguing the scenario with owl boy and bee girl, where she is clearly wasted out of her mind and he seems stone cold sober.

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>Came here expecting Bee sex and Bird Breast
>Get nothing

>>91005117
>hey do you want a cup of tea
im not sure
>how about a cup of tea with a shot of whisky on it?
cant argue with that, i would love some tea with whisky on it

and then he got acussed of rape and kicked out of college because she didnt want the stigma of going to the police to press fake charges

>>91005117
This has to be some tea fetish.

>>91005124
>its those damn highschool bullies that stuck me in my locker and made the girl i liked laugh at my face when i asked her to prom that are responsible for this
>if only my poor maiden could see the purity of my intentions, alas women are too dumb to know whats good for them

>>91005237
Don't you mean this has tea be someone's fetish

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>>91005188
>/pol/tards and /tumblr/tards are ruining /co/ and dissolving what is actually important and what /co/ has always held dear.

Honestly I would be perfectly okay if both of their ilk fucked off and never returned so we could go back to drawing and posting birdgirl and buggirl porn.

>>91005214
Was it rape?

>>91005117
tea is shit, coffee is where it's at

>>91005082
Nobody is saying it's right for men to get punished when both parties are equally drunk, but decrying the argument that women should be "responsible for themselves" and arguing the logic that if drunk drivers are held responsible, women should be held responsible if they're screwed while drunk.

Look, I've closely known people that were taken advantage of while blacked out drunk. The other person was supposedly fairly drunk too and charges weren't pressed, or anything- but it fucked the person up really badly. Getting raped while drunk is not a tiny drunken mistake, it's not something you want to have happen to you.

>>91005286
if they dont go to the police it isnt rape
not to imply that going to the police makes it rape
but not going is the first red flag

ITS

>>91005274
You did try.

>>91000795
>You will never have a chance to fuck a drunk bee girl
It hurts living in the real world

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>>91005290
>Nobody is saying it's right for men to get punished when both parties are equally drunk
because outright stating it is dangerous since everyone would be against you inmediately
so you weassle around it
like you dont like to admit that to reach 50% female politicians in 20 years you would have to massively drop the amount of men you allow to get hired in the field
or when you claimed you wanted 50% of college students to be female but when female students exceeded 50% you still wanted to keep the grants and affirmative action around even tho men are being opressed now
or you claim that you want to help men with their suicide crisis but will get around it at some point after you get free tampons while sipping your male tears cup
if i had to judge you on your words you would seem like a great person, judge you on your actions instead

>feminazi propaganda

When will it stop?

Nice how they didn't put a fat goth chick trying to date rape someone.

And drunk slutty girls can be just as obnoxious as a horny fratboy.

>>91005438
>When will it stop?
when you get rid of female vanity and entitlement
so around the end of the world

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>>91005380
your doing gods work anon.

>noone is even posting bees or PSAs
>just shit politics
The last PSA thread was better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChOHnSL7ZCg

>>91005438
holy shit do i know this.

I was biking downtown on the weekend some drunk slut twice my age JUMPED ON MY GODDAMN BICYCLE and tried to dry hump me. When I was 17.

I mean what the fuck.

>>91002767
>>91003869
>>91004836
I don't know about elsewhere, but if you shouldn't have sex with drunk people no-one in the UK would ever get laid.

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>>91005475

>>91000795
>Couch, water, pizza
Someone explain this. I don't understand if this is supposed to be a joke or some other phrase people say that I'm not aware of

>>91005290
>it's not something you want to have happen to you.
Neither is going to jail because some drunk slut wants to seem like less of a drunk slut

Greg and Sheila get shitfaced and bang it out in the mail room at the office Christmas party, but because Sheila doesn't want to seem like the office bicycle she says Greg raped her Greg then not only loses his job but is sentenced to prison where he is actually raped by his cell mate Kyle a closeted gay white supremacist
All because Sheila couldn't accept that she made a mistake

>>91005475
>When I was 17.
you were never 17

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>>91005082
>>91005141
The video make it quite clear that it's when the person is wasted tot he point they can not speak coherently that it is wrong.

>>91005527
>The video make it quite clear
the fictional video featuring antropomorphic bird and bees?
do you have the chris chan tism? d you realize thats neither proof nor an accurate representation?

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>>91005380

>>91005411
Well now you're just ranting about random irrelevant shit, nigga

the only thing i'm arguing is that people shouldn't be able to fuck people that are clearly more drunk than they are because it's common knowledge that they can regret it and that it can badly fuck them up

don't act like there aren't people in this very thread that are saying that women should be held responsible for what happens to them while drunk

>>91005411
>because outright stating it is dangerous since everyone would be against you inmediately
No. Because nobody actually believes in unless they are completely retarded.

>>91005570
>the fictional video featuring antropomorphic bird and bees?
Yes, the fictional video, the same way security info video show to you when you sart at a business are fictional but still feature real-life situations.
>? d you realize thats neither proof nor an accurate representation?
It is actually accurate representation of what can happens.
>proof
proof or what, like you said, it's a fictional video, no one is trying to use that video has a proof that some real person is guilty.

>>91005606
>random irrelevant shit
im sure that for you the fact that people like me are way more likely to commit suicide than anyone else is random irrelevant shit
however your constant sexists attacks on anything male like this video for example are fueling it
so please dont kill us anymore, thank you very much
>>91005615
>Because nobody actually believes in unless they are completely retarded
so the people living in party town who never had any contact with the real world experiencing something only the richest people in the world do and arguing decolonization of science and population displeacement get to pretend they have any fucking idea of what they are talking about right?

>>91005411
>because outright stating it is dangerous since everyone would be against you inmediately
Anon didn't made that argument. at all.

>>91005749
I'm talking about how people fucking people they're far more sober than is a bad thing- Men or women, and you're going off on a spiel about how I must think men are trash.

>>91005663
>the same way security info video show to you when you sart at a business
are you the female 12-14 mtv demographic
>It is actually accurate representation of what can happen
so its independace day the film, so is 1984 the book
>no one is trying to use that video has a proof that some real person is guilty
they are trying to use the video to educate young impresionable minds incapable of grasping complicated concepts in college

>>91005834
>they're far more sober than
at no point in the video was this stated
>>91005803
learn the difference between argument and acussation

>>91005749
>im sure that for you the fact that people like me are way more likely to commit suicide than anyone else is random irrelevant shit
Not the non you are quoting, but no such was even implied, here.
>however your constant sexists attacks on anything male like this video for example are fueling it
This video was actually doing a good job at not demonizing anyone. Evenn the owl guy is not shown as being evil.
>so please dont kill us anymore, thank you very much
No one here is threatening you.
>so the people living in party town who never had any contact with the real world experiencing something only the richest people in the world do and arguing decolonization of science and population displeacement get to pretend they have any fucking idea of what they are talking about right?
No, not right. No one hhere has ever claimed only a certain group is the holder of the sole truth.


You are making lots of assumption just so you can vent out about stuffs no one here is defending.

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>already have lots of hangups about sex
>PSAs make me even more afraid

>>91005842
>are you the female 12-14 mtv demographic
Out of nowhere question, but no.
>so its independace day the film, so is 1984 the book
No it's not.Those aren't educational-information videos.
>they are trying to use the video to educate young impresionable minds incapable of grasping complicated concepts in college
This video IS for college people, not for kids.

Holy shit it's like watching the Special Olympics of shitposting

>>91005882
the video shows the bee needing help to go up stairs and barely coherent whereas the guy seems completely fine, what are details?

My initial statement was directed towards people in this thread and people I've seen in the past arguing that it shouldn't be illegal to fuck drunk women even while sober because it's "their" responsibility.

>>91005882
>learn the difference between argument and acussation
he didn't make that accusation either.

I'm still waiting for somebody to dump sexy bees.

>>91005901
>Not the non you are quoting, but no such was even implied, here.
thats why i said im sure
>This video was actually doing a good job at not demonizing anyone
by only showing males trying to take advantage of females, abuse is always only one sided and only men do it lesson learned
>No one here is threatening you
why would you threaten me when you own the means to attack me
>No, not right. No one hhere has ever claimed only a certain group is the holder of the sole truth
its funny how 90% of posters in this board use words like uneducated to dismiss differing opinions meaning you should shut up because you cant afford college or tell them to go to pol meaning only a skinhead could think anything different than them

>>91005953
>Those aren't educational-information
1984 is educational
>This video IS for college people, not for kids
is there a difference?

>>91005967
>the video shows the bee needing help to go up stairs
are you telling me that a man who is sober enough to stand is sober enough to concent?
are you telling me a woman who is sober enough to stand is sober enough to concent?
>>91005988
i did
i shouldnt have to tell you this twice but during the stone age

>>91006089
nigga you crazy

>>91005967
Well why is getting drunk an excuse for regretting sex but not other decisions you would otherwise be responsible for, like drunk driving? There is obviously manipulation like stated earlier in the thread but that is a clearly different thing and not the interaction occurring in the video. The owl's intention clearly wasn't to rape the bee, it was his understanding that she was consenting to sex, and he immediately feels guilty when told that he is technically performing the action? How can the Owl be guilty of rape when he had no intent to commit the crime and there is no protest from the bee who has clearly put herself in a situation where she knows her power of judgement will be impaired?

>>91003344
This guy gets it

Telling people not to rape is about as useful as telling people not to murder or steal

It's better to instill caution in the potential victims, not because we think it's OK to rape but because we want them to be safe; I don't lock my doors at night because I approve of burglary

>>91006018
>thats why i said im sure
You being more likely to commit suicide was nver called irrelevant shit.
>by only showing males trying to take advantage of females, abuse is always only one sided and only men do it lesson learned
This video imply nowhere that only male take advantage of female. Absence of something doesn't mean statmet it doesn't exist. you are following the same logic than sJW calling something racist because there is an absence of blacks.
>why would you threaten me when you own the means to attack me
I own no mean to destroy you.
>its funny how 90% of posters in this board use words like uneducated
I only see this word in use here when people talk about black people.
>to dismiss differing opinions
Everyone here has different opinion and insult each other constantly. And they don't use the word "uneducated" when they do so. When there is divergence of opinion, people use the word "shill" "/pol/" "/co/mblr" "tumblr" "/v/" "/a/" "/sug/faggot", "deepshit", bot no. "uneducated" is a word almost never used when there is divergence of opinion. No one called you that, here.
>meaning you should shut up because you cant afford college
No one else has been saying that.

So, I don't know what's funny. it's funny you notice things that aren't there.

>>91006126
Drunk driving is an action that endangers everyone, and not punishing it would be very dangerous, inebriation aside.

Getting drunk at a party is an action that typically endangers no one. If you're sober enough to recognize that a person is drunk out of their minds, then you have two very simple choices:
>Have sex with them, knowing full well that it's a possibility that they could deeply regret it later, which is careless and hurtful no matter how you try to ethically play it
>Don't have sex with them and play it safe

I think it's a really simple choice. As I said, it only becomes uncomfortably grey if the other person is drunk enough to have their decision-making also impaired, and the video doesn't paint the owl as that drunk at all.

>>91006089
>1984 is educational
But it's not a video
>is there a difference?
kids are younger

>are you telling me that a man who is sober enough to stand is sober enough to concent?
No, this isn't waht was said.
>are you telling me a woman who is sober enough to stand is sober enough to concent?
Neither.
You are trying to put words in the mouth of other they didn't say. They stated "it's clear the inability of the bee to stand make it clear she can't consent". And it does in no way entail the menaing of "if you can stand, you can consent". One does in no way means the other and no one stated that.
>I did
You quoted
>>Nobody is saying it's right for men to get punished when both parties are equally drunk
And you said that
>outright stating it is dangerous
You are saying that stating that "it's right for men to be punished when both parties are equally drunk" is dangerous, but honestly, making such a statement is quite wrong, when both are equally drunk only punishing the man IS wrong.

>>91005910
Just don't have sex.

>>91000795
Both parties are terrible people and deserve each other and the consequences.

This is fact. Going to a party to get wasted are for degenerates

>>91006212
>was nver called irrelevant shit
because t would be a very horrible thing to say
> Absence of something doesn't mean statmet it doesn't exist
when this is the case with almost every single one of these things you have to ask yourself why
>I own no mean to destroy you
you personally dont
however girls at my college do
any girl i attempt a romantic relationship with does
women at the workplace do aswell
pretty much any woman i bmp into or any female organization and if merkel has her way and i need to log into the internet with my internet card then you would aswell
>I only see this word in use here when people talk about black people
people who talk about black people here tend to get their threads deleted before they can say much
in my 8 years here i have seen this argument only being made by racists, sexists and classits and only racists ever get called out over it
>Everyone here has different opinion and insult each other constantly
only one group operates as an echo chamber
only one group ever attempts power using moderation
>No one else has been saying that
i get told that here every day
shouldnt you listen and belive my own victim experiences seeing as you never dealt with this before?

>>91006417
>You are trying to put words in the mouth of other they didn't say
im trying to understand what you are trying to say because you yourself dont seem certain of what the hell you are trying to say at all
>when both are equally drunk only punishing the man IS wron
why does the system operate in such a way then?

>Many posters in this thread would not exist without drunk sex

>>91006308
You are more likely to harm yourself performing any action when intoxicated, Drunk Driving being a major concern due to the degree that harm may be caused. The act of getting drunk itself is harmless (within reason) but the actions performed during that act often have adverse results. Sp why is it the fault of a sober counterpart for reciprocating sexual attention when you are offering it?

The owl didn't recognize that the bee was drunk until his friend stopped him and asked him to observe her behavior, at which point she conveniently fell over, a sign of extreme inebriation. However the point of inebriation at which an individual may lose motor control and the point where they may claim they lost a sound sense of judgement are different. Had she been only slightly less intoxicated and been using the wall of the frat house for additional support, there may have been little to no physical indicator that she was drunk though she may beyond the point of sound judgement.

>>91006627
so if there was no bird around to point out to the drunk owl that he was too drunk to nottice that the bee was too drunk to concent
would that had been rape?

>>91006459
Frat houses especially are dens of rape, both in the form of aggressive forced sexual contact (often among male members of the frat) and the more subtle date rape form the crime often of young girls, who will then be unable to claim rape since the frat boys will often "have each other's backs". A system that should promote brotherhood and camaraderie is bastardized into a system of hedonism and indecent living

>>91006627
The video makes it a pretty clear case. If someone is visibly drunk, which we're clearly shown from the start of the video with her wobbling up the stairs, there's no excuse.

He isn't portrayed as not knowing she's drunk, he's portrayed as not understanding that fucking a drunk girl is date rape.

>>91006483
>because t would be a very horrible thing to say
so, why did you bring that up inthe first place again?
>when this is the case with almost every single one of these things you have to ask yourself why
Mostly because Girls tend to be victim of rape more often than men. It shouldn't mean it shouldn't not be brought up. Propose this kind of information material to also include gay-rape and rape-on male informations.
>however girls at my college do
>any girl i attempt a romantic relationship with does
>women at the workplace do aswell
>pretty much any woman i bmp into or any female organization and if merkel has her way and i need to log into the internet with my internet card then you would aswel
I don't think you have the right scope of it. Literally EVERYONE that exist have the mean to destroy you. Literally anyone who put a litle effort into it can mke your life a nightmare. We live in a society where it is easy for anyone to destroy somebody else and do irreversible damage. Girls at your college and at work are in no way the sole risk, far from it. Your paranoia has missed quite a lot.
>people who talk about black people here tend to get their threads deleted before they can say much
You haven't been here for quite long then. also, if its not /co/ related, of course it will.
>in my 8 years here i have seen this argument only being made by racists, sexists and classits and only racists ever get called out over it
Everyone get called out on basically everything they say. you haven't been here that long.
>only one group operates as an echo chamber
There is no echo chamber. Ltierally everyone shit on everyone's opinion.
>only one group ever attempts power using moderation
mods are fag and the only rule barely being applied is non-/co/ related material, when it is applied.
Generale racism and and shitposting is not /co/ related
Also, your complain here aren't even related to whatever we are talking.

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>>91005910
This. The human race will die out because we'll all be too afraid to fuck without signed forms in triplicate, a petition with at least 20 names on it, and a written letter of consent from our local governments.

>>91006483
>i get told that here every day
>shouldnt you listen and belive my own victim experiences seeing as you never dealt with this before?
No, people here call out for not having job and being NEET.

As a matter of fact, way more often people get called out for having a "joke diploma" You haven't been here really long, haven't you?

>>91006789
Don't forget a neutral party to witness the sex to make sure it remains consensual throughout.

>>91006530
>im trying to understand what you are trying to say because you yourself dont seem certain of what the hell you are trying to say at all
I made it quite clear. Stating "not being able to stand by yourself mean you can't consent" does in no way mean "being able to consent mean you can consent". You stated one entailed theother, which is erroneous.
>>91006530
>why does the system operate in such a way then?
What do you mean?

>>91006677
Under the current legal definition, I believe so. The point is that I don't understand why the owl should be punished. It's precisely the reason this is such a tragic subject for all parties involved. People are being punished for following their natural inhibitions in scenarios like frat parties that are entirely based around letting those inhibitions run wild. It is a development encouraged both by our societies of "boys will be boys" or that girls aren't really responsible for the majority of what they do and the idea that you can leave responsibility later in life.

>>91006615
Thanks, Obama.

>>91006857
>The point is that I don't understand why the owl should be punished.
What are you talking about. He isn't being punished. he stopped, he didn't get sex with and thus didn't get punished.

>>91006762
>so, why did you bring that up inthe first place again?
because not saying something and not doing it are two different things
>Mostly because Girls tend to be victim of rape more often than men
excpet in jail where rape protection is most needed
also its not an excuse at all, most people suffering anything are straight because demographic but we still take gays into account
>I don't think you have the right scope of it. Literally EVERYONE that exist have the mean to destroy you
because security is an ilussion
but when a girl does it its completely fine and the state is her accomplice
>Everyone get called out on basically everything they say
calling out some people gets you banned
>There is no echo chamber
- echo chamber
>mods are fag and the only rule barely being applied is non-/co/ related material
i have been banned over having the wrong opinion about steven universe
dont ever say that stupid shit to me again
>Also, your complain here aren't even related to whatever we are talking
my complain over this is that these types of videos are made to attack a group of people based on bias

>>91006857
He isn't being punished, but with the effect date-rape can have on a person you can't just say hey it's a party, you let inhibitions run wild

parties aren't JUST for fucking, you can socialize and let loose in other ways

A sober person shouldn't fuck a thrashed person even if they consent at the time, it's just a bad move.

>>91006794
>No, people here call out for not having job and being NEET.
how can you possibly know that?
are you implying that non progressive men are all out of work and education?
isnt that bigoted of you?
>What do you mean?
the court system for example operates under the assumption that the same crime is worse when commited by a man

>>91006741
He clearly believes she is in the state to be making a decision for herself as shown by his starting dialogue and looking to her for affirmation that she is in fact alright.

He's a young man, possibly lightly inebriated himself, excited at the prospect of intimacy with a member of the opposite sex who is reciprocating his affection. What is he guilty of prior to his friend informing him that the girl is drunk?

>>91006857
>People are being punished for following their natural inhibitions in scenarios like frat parties that are entirely based around letting those inhibitions run wild. It is a development encouraged both by our societies of "boys will be boys" or that girls aren't really responsible for the majority of what they do and the idea that you can leave responsibility later in life.
People are being punished for fucking someone who didn't said yes nor had the means to actually say no.

Being drunk isn't a excuse. It doesn't make you become someone else, it doesn't make you uncountable for your actions.

someone stil enough self-aware to bring someone in an isolated room to have fuck, still has enough judgement to be able to tell if she is able to act on her own.

And if he is as drunk as the bee, he won't even be able to climb the first step or initiate sexual intercourse in the first placed anyway.

>>91006904
Right. I'm extrapolating the scenario. Sorry. In a scenario where his friend did not stop him then and the bee accused him of rape.

>>91006857
>Under the current legal definition, I believe so
so your own logic contradicts your logic
fantastic, i thank god im a libra and i get to play out my ace attonery fantasies here

>>91007013
You're drawing conclusions that the video doesn't tell you at this point. All the video tells you is:
>She's drunk
>He isn't anywhere near as drunk if drunk at all, nothing really implies he is
>He doesn't know that fucking a drunk girl is considered rape, as his friend tells him and his reaction is 'for real?'

If he'd gone through with it and she had regretted it he may not have been a conscious bastard, but he would've done something very bad when he had the choice not to if he'd thought about it more.

>>91007128
His eyes are red, Anon. This is a common thing in animation to denote a character as inebriated.

>>91007128
>You're drawing conclusions that the video doesn't tell you at this point
the video is focused on a clear logical dilema
if the video only presents one side of the dilema it doesnt mean the other side doesnt exist

>>91007017
The bee did say yes though or perhaps is implied to. The owl said she was all over him and into it.

>Being drunk isn't a excuse. It doesn't make you become someone else, it doesn't make you uncountable for your actions.
Then why is the Bee's consent to sex invalid? Why would it be someone elses responsibility to decide whether or not the bee is too inebriated for sex?

>>91006918
>because not saying something and not doing it are two different things
Sorry, I am not following at all. what was the initial argument again?
>excpet in jail where rape protection is most needed
No one denied that. But that was an information video on college, not in prison
>also its not an excuse at all, most people suffering anything are straight because demographic but we still take gays into account
Well, when theyere is safety information aimed at gay, it's for risk they are more likely to suffer than the rest of the population.
>but when a girl does it its completely fine and the state is her accomplice
This is in no way an absolute nor even the strongest tnedencies. The difficulty to proove rate has also let many rapist scottfree. It's almost impossible to have valid data, because there is a big blind spot. But woomen are just as much at risk as you are. the are not more protected.
>calling out some people gets you banned
Shitpositng can get you banned. But people keep insulting everyone here and the risk of ban is still as low.
>i have been banned over having the wrong opinion about steven universe
Half of the board are shitting on Steven universe. I don't think it was yur opion, because lots of opinion are hating this show.
I will say that stupid shit to you again. your bans aren't proof of anything.
>my complain over this is that these types of videos are made to attack a group of people based on bias
Except that is wrong. It does not evilify men. The absence of something isn't proof of persecution. Just like the absence of a black lead doesn't mean a show is racist.
you are operating under the same logic as SJW, where you presume that maybe there isn an underlying implication, consider it a fact and complain about it.

>>91007044
How is that contradictory? I never stated it wasn't rape on a legal basis. I'm seeking an answer as to why it is legally considered rape when morally I see little to no fault in the owl given the circumstances

>>91007241
Why didn't they take the time to do a scenario of a woman trying to coerce an inebriated man into sex?

>>91007161
One character's eyes are blue and another character's are a darker tinge of red, what does that mean?

>>91007309
Because for men that is the culmination of a good frat party.

>>91007201
>The bee did say yes though or perhaps is implied to. The owl said she was all over him and into it.
where??? in what minute, in what second of the video in the OP is that implied.

>>91006992
>how can you possibly know that?
Because I post and read post here everyday. This is what people get called out mostly.
>are you implying that non progressive men are all out of work and education?
No, never implied that. at all. I listed what people are being called out for. it does in no way illustrate my own opinion.

You would feel less persecuted if you stopped to presume any statement ever made is a personal attack to you and that each of them have an hidden implaication that has, in rality no logical connection to what was actually said.

>the court system for example operates under the assumption that the same crime is worse when commited by a man
Each crime tend to be judged while taking in account the circumstance of it. there will be times when women will be sentenced longer than men are.

>>91007041
>>91007041
Because that would effectively be rape.

>>91007167
No, the video doesn't present us with information that the guy is drunk. The message is that you shouldn't fuck drunk people while you yourself are sober.

Anything else is outside information and another debate entirely.

>>91007338
Red eyes are a real life indicator of intoxication, Anon. If they didn't intend it that way, that's a design error.

>>91007348
She puts her arm around him and smiles. Body language, Anon. Humans communicate with more than just words. That's why these situations are incredibly difficult to judge. How often during sex are you reverifying consent? How often does sex even start with a "Do you want to have sex? Yes or no?" robotic questionaire?

>>91007272
if she was drunk enough to not be able to concent
he was drunk enough not to be able to concent
red eyes and tripping in the stairs arent enough evidence that she was drunker than him nor does the law operate in a drunker than basis
so how could a crime have been commited with no guilty party
the only possible answer being that under the current definittion of rape rape is impossible unless you dont aknowledge that a man can also be too drunk to concent
wich is something biology doesnt agree with
lets use another example, there are plenty of things a man can argue was too drunk to concent to like signing a legal document

>>91007395
>>91007454
here is your dilema the video badly represents most likely on purpose

>>91007348
You're right. They've clearly left out a section of the video that is of large importance to the interaction. Well obviously if no consent was given it is rape. However given that the owl claims she was "into it" and he is the type of person to immediately berate himself the moment he figures out what he was doing is wrong, I sorta doubt he's the kind of person who would try to have sex without consent.

Unless he's just a sociopath faking shame to fake out his friend once his attempts were compromised. Fucking owls.

>>91007201
>The bee did say yes though or perhaps is implied to.
She didn't. she couldn't even speak and had no idea of what was going on.
>Then why is the Bee's consent to sex invalid?
The thing is, she didn't give consent in the first place. Also, I actually stated it, she is clearly too drunk. But someone who is still able to have a normal conversation and support someone who can't stand on their own is still clear-seeing enough to be responsible of their own actions.
>Why would it be someone elses responsibility to decide whether or not the bee is too inebriated for sex?
It's both parties responsibility to make sure the other is consenting. Always. And there is more responsibility to the one who isn't drunk-dead.

If the owl was as wasted as the bee, he woldn't be able to have sex in the first place.

>>91007386
Yeah, it's tragic if he doesn't think it through, but the fact is that he's in a better position to think it through than the bee and say "what if she sobers up and seriously regrets it" than she is, nearly blackout.

To fuck a heavily drunk woman you need to be the one doing most of the work.

>>91007424
I mean, he's a cartoon owl, man.

>>91007454
>Bee is tripping over herself, hunched over, not speaking, needs help up the stairs
>owl doesn't show any shakiness whatsoever and talks to his friend 100% coherently

come on, man.

don't be such a bee brain

>>91007358
>Because I post and read post here everyday.
so every black guy is a criminal and every woan is a slut
not to mention every jew being a thief
>Each crime tend to be judged while taking in account the circumstance of it
under what lenses?
i argue women should get the same centences are black men and denying that is racism

>>91007483
Or it presents the situation very simplistically because it thinks the message is simple enough that people won't be dissecting every single part of it.

>>91007490
>However given that the owl claims she was "into it" and he is the type of person to immediately berate himself the moment he figures out what he was doing is wrong, I sorta doubt he's the kind of person who would try to have sex without consent.
You do realise there is a contradiction, there. If he wasn't goign to do that, he wouldn't berate himself.

The Owl saying "she is into it" means it's an interpretation of his part. The bee is clearly way too drunk to be able to say yes, seeing as she is unable to speak.

>91007530
>owl doesn't show any shakiness whatsoever and talks to his friend 100% coherently
in the twenty secconds you say him wich was enough for you to form a completely unbased opinion sure, you are also ignoring factors like men tend to show less the signs of alcohol poisoning because genetics

>>91007568
I'm offended that they have such a low opinion of college students.

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>>91007424
Sorry anon but what??? are we watching diferents videos??? because i'm talking about the one in the OP

>>91007530
>"what if she sobers up and seriously regrets it"
this isn't ac case, of sobering up and regreting it.

It's a case of "being too drunk to even say yes inthe first place". There is no place for regret if she didn't agree to it in the first place.

>>91007568
>Or it presents the situation very simplistically
if your intention is for people to get the wrong idea presenting the facts in a simplistic way and ignoring other crucial facts alltogether is a great method for deceit

>>91007551
Not him, but your posts gives me the impression that you aren't a natural english speaker and you're taking your idea of what american courts are like from a second hand source.

The justice system isn't perfect but men aren't fucked over against women in every single case.

>>91007598
It's a short cartoon video intended to portray a simple point, not fucking ace attorney.

>>91007623
that screencap doesnt mean anythig
its pretty common that when a couple is going to copulate the male has his and around the female waist in a suggestive manner

>>91007648
>Not him, but your posts gives me the impression that you aren't a natural english speaker and you're taking your idea of what american courts
how awful of you to imply that every american is a natural english speaker, thats not the case at all

>>91007575
He berates himself when he learns that the degree of inebriation of the bee prevents her from giving consent, a fact that he did not know. It doesn't contradict that he sought consent, in fact it contributes to the idea she consented to the owl in a clear way despite being inebriated which led him to believe she was "into it".

Not speaking is not being unable to speak. She is only asked one question that the blue bird doesn't really give her time to answer. For all we know she's just standing there wondering why the cute owl still has his pants on.

>>91007551
>so every black guy is a criminal and every woan is a slut
No. and there is no logical connection between that statement and anything I have said. Sorry, but you can't draw that conclusion wform what I expressed.
>under what lenses?
Mostly a big set of precedents. If there is a precedent the same sentence will aply, regardless of race or gender.
In many case, it's also up to the judge.
>i argue women should get the same centences are black men and denying that is racism
No point in bringing race, there.

>>91007648
>It's a short cartoon video intended to portray a simple point
it fails horribly
people who watch it will walk out with a worse understanding of this than they would otherwise have

>>91007625
If someone is heavily drunk and you aren't, then you recognize that they may regret it and turn them down even if they're acting promiscuous. If you do otherwise you're knowingly taking a chance that you may do the other person damage when they sober up. It's only a chance, but you're taking a chance over there being no chance of it when you turn them down.

I don't think it's very complex in that scenario.

Wheres the porn

>>91003869
This is nu-think though. I've had sex when I was drunker than the girl. I've had sex where she is drunker than me. Why are you people such losers. I don't fucking get it. You have to be fucking WASTED for your actions to really start being uncharacteristic, instead of less restrained due to alcohol.

Kill yourselves.

>>91003344
while we are at it can we teach blacks not to steal?

>>91007702
Not wrong, so I'll apologize. I've known multiple people born and raised outside of the country that seemed to have misguided and strangely biased ideas on how the country actually operated, so that's some personal bias of mine leaking out.

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>>91007623
Maybe you should keep watching instead of pausing there for a bad screenshot.

>>91007714
>He berates himself when he learns that the degree of inebriation of the bee prevents her from giving consent, a fact that he did not know.
No. she didn't give consent in the first place.
> in fact it contributes to the idea she consented to the owl
It doesn't, or she would have said so.
the fact sheis not even able to speak clearly mean she didn't give condent. The fact he berate himself means he actually acknowledge he didn't get consent in the first place.
> She is only asked one question that the blue bird doesn't really give her time to answer.
she actually has the time to answer and is unable to even make coherent speech.

she never gave consent.

>>91007728
>No. and there is no logical connection between that statement and anything I have said. Sorry
well i spend a lot of time outside and i have seen plenty of black criminals, female sluts and lying jews certainly thats enough to form an opinion for you
>Mostly a big set of precedents. If there is a precedent the same sentence will aply
you are arguing for domino effect opression by manipulating the results in order not to establish incnvinient precedents
thats not only a possibility but the only logical conclussion of such system
>No point in bringing race, there
i disagree, if the basis for different sentences is opression there is no group that has been more opressed than black men
make them the standard for all minority crime (even tho women is not a minority)

>>91000795
This PSA should be about the institutionalized, biological classism of a bee hive (a worker is physically incapable of being anything but) and the sexual slavery and eventual callous murder of male bees. Beeing a bee is suffering.

>>91007739
>If someone is heavily drunk and you aren't, then you recognize that they may regret it and turn them down even if they're acting promiscuous.
It's not that it is regretting, is that they didn't agree to it in the first place. If you are too drunk to know what you are doing, you are not in a state of consent.

>>91004010
>>91004029
It is their fault. Why should I go to jail because both of us were drunk and fucked? Who the fuck thinks any of this is acceptable?

>>91007739
But why would a promiscuous person asking for sex regret it when they are clearly showing so much interest? It's forcing a huge amount of responsibility onto the decision of someone who likely to be similarly inebriated (even if to a lesser degree) and whose decision making is heavily biased as an answer in the negative goes directly against a biological imperative

It's simple on paper but the decision is being charged to the person who is going to be having the hardest possible time making the correct one

This is an interesting thread. Pointless but interesting.

>>91004194
If two people are the level of drunk at which it would be considered rape it's generally a miracle if they can even find a way to make it back to either of their houses. It's the level of drunk where you rely on friends to bundle you into a taxi or let you sleep at their place. Just look at the PSA itself, we're talking falling down drunk.

If they're both up and active and equally corpus mentes then it's generally considered unobjectionable.

Most of the people handwringing and whining 'what about x' or 'where do we draw the line' know exactly where the line is because it's something you can learn by cultural osmosis and common sense, they just don't like that the line is there all.

>>91003869
ok so if i get drunk and then i kill a bunch of people it isnt my fault since alcohol fuck with my ability to make decisions?

>>91007812
Her arm is still not around him and that smile could mean anything.

>>91007859
Sorry but bees don't have personal agency so a bee could never concent but also a crime can't be committed to a bee either

porn where

>>91007818
We don't know if consent was given or if she can or can not speak because the video doesn't take place during the point of their initial conversation that led to the trip up the stairs. Even if she could speak and answered affirmatively by the video's lesson she is inebriated to the point that the statement is not valid.

Probably because the situation would be a lot more complicated if she turned around and said "Go fuck yourself blue boy, I want me some owl cock."

>>91007838
>well i spend a lot of time outside and i have seen plenty of black criminals, female sluts and lying jews certainly thats enough to form an opinion for you
Again, nothing of what I have siad can lead you to that conclusion. Sorry dude, buut I have not worked on that kind of logic at all. You have made statment out of th blue that have no connection with anythoing I have said, and fail to make any sort of point.

>you are arguing for domino effect opression by manipulating the results in order not to establish incnvinient precedents
No, I am not. what you are describing is not even what I am talking about. PRecedent IS EXACTLY what you are asking for: that everyone receive the same judgment. If the cicusmtance are the same, then the precedent for that precedent appply the same to anyone who fit in it, regardless of gender or race.
>if the basis for different sentences is opression
It's not. It's cirucmstances. And sometimes, circumstance also make the sentence heavier.

>>91007812
You say "SHE puts HER arm around HIM and smiles" or i'm wrong

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>>91007873
>Why would they regret it?
You've never been in a weird state of mind and done or asked for something you regretted? The specific difference for drunken sex is that the sober person needs to do most of the work, and knowingly tell them no.

We're not assuming the other person is drunk here because that's a massive grey area, as has been repeatedly stated.

>>91007977
I think you meant to reply to somebody else. Maybe. Did you know male bees are diploid (having two sets of chromosomes) whereas females are haploid?

>>91002707
>girl goes to parties and essentially roofies herself
>everyone else needs to watch themselves because this bitch might pass out and choke on her own vomit or might try to jump some guy's bones and not remember it in the morning

Stop being a fucking baby and causing trouble for other people maybe?

>>91002032
Because there isn't equality regarding this you white knighting faggot

>>91002298
>you just have to use your judgement

My judgement is kick them out onto the street and let whatever happens to them happen to them.

>>91007872
Because in this scenario, the scenario of the video, one can think straight and the other can not

>>91007989
>We don't know if consent was given
We know it wasn't given becuase she is unable to speak.
>even if she could speak and answered affirmatively by the video's lesson she is inebriated to the point that the statement is not valid.
actually, no, the point of the video is that if you are to drunk to be coherent, then you are not consenting.

>Probably because the situation would be a lot more complicated if she turned around and said "Go fuck yourself blue boy, I want me some owl cock."
No, it would be clear consent.

>>91007943
Actually that's a different case because the court assumes that those people are victims and if you get drunk and have sex you aren't putting anyone but yourself in danger
But based on what we have observed you are putting your sexual partner in danger by the act of consuming alcohol at all regardless of sex or gender
Either sex under influence can't be rape or sex under influence should always be rape no matter what because the current system is nonsensical and both assumes the man is guilty and also assumes that it most likely never happened based on nothing but convinience

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>>91006789
>Millenniums of disease, natural disasters, and predators couldn't take out humanity
>Countless nations have risen and fallen, and we're still here
>Wars of global scales that wiped out massive populations, and bombs of unimaginable destruction have come and gone and we still stood strong
>Fucking sex-ed PSA's and an overly sensitive legal system making people too scared to even think about sex will be the thing that finally ends us
I swear humanity is just one massive meme.

>>91008074
>>everyone else needs to watch themselves because this bitch might pass out and choke on her own vomit or might try to jump some guy's bones and not remember it in the morning
Anon, sorry, but having sex with a girl like that would be rape.

No, wanting to have fun at party doesn't mean people are allowed to fuck you.

>>91008082
>We know it wasn't given becuase she is unable to speak
Holly shit what?
What the fuck are you basing that assumption on?

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>>91007873
The answer is that historically rape was a violent sexual assault. This was the clear cut type of case that warranted the kind of harsh punishment our legal system doles out.

Women, being undeserving of equal rights, have forced rape into a vague definition where any level of alcohol use is rape. And the sheer number of betas in this thread enable such a definition to entrench itself despite the fact the only way they'd ever normally get laid is with a chick too drunk to realize what a beta they are.

>>91008047
No, because I'm not an idiot. Why is the sober person responsible for the drunk person's decisions?

>>91007943
If you are drunk on the level of being unable to give consent, you are simply unable to make such a thing in the first place. Unless some moron try to put you behind the wheel of a car. But the, he is responsible.

>>91008155
>>91008164
No the answer is you deserve to be beaten with a hose for ruining what was once a nice country with your irresponsible desire to go to other peoples' parties- probably people you don't even know- and put them in a position where they have to look after your dumb ass because you drank too much of their liquor because you're a full-size child.

>>91008175
>It's very easy for the sober person to recognize that the drunk person is drunk and may end up regretting it
>As they're sober it's infinitely easy for them to say 'no'
>Doing this there's zero chance of the person regretting it as opposed to the real chance that they'll be harmed if you go through with it

it's really simple empathy stuff.

>>91008163
That she is unable to give a basic answer when asked a question.