Give me 1 good reason why cartoons can't look like this

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>>90993551
Digital art overtaking traditional art due to the reduction of effort, and therefore dedication to the craft is reduced as well

Not only is it budget, but it's the fact cel based animation is replaced by digital, out sourcing overseas and the fact attractive women in cartoons are non existent

American traditional animation is close to non-existent.

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>>90993567
>>90993579
That has nothing to do with it.

This was colored digitally.

I will have follow ups to this post.

>>90993551
People aren't carving away their souls while drawing cels so they aren't having nearly as much fun with it anymore

>>90993551
sjw's would bitch about how sexist it is

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>>90993579
See below, I have already talked about why digital vs cels does not matter.
>>90993605 (You)
Attractive women in cartoons do exist, see here.

>>90993605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2j6F8fZII

>>90993567
This. Computers do all the actual work now, which means you can pay employees less for being unskilled and interchangeable. The lack of demand for real animators means few are around, and the skills are being lost instead of refined or at least preserved.

I imagine soon cartoons and film will be made by heuristic computer programs, with zero human involvement.

>>90993642
But thats the thing, we want to tell SJWs, Fujos & Tumblr to fuck off and get the industry back to us cartoonists.

>>90993677
Disney canon films made between 1990 to 2004 along side Princess And The Frog & 2011 Pooh will like to have a word with you, those films were made digitally and they look excellent.

this thread smells like famicom

>>90993687
>/co/
>cartoonists

good one

>>90993777
It's not, relax.
>>90993814
Theres a good saying that if you're over the age of 12 and you can't draw at the level of Virgil Ross then you stay away from the industry.

Because the industry is now ran by people who make Paul J Smith look like Bob McKimson the industry is now at a worse place then what it was in the 70s, but we can fix this.

>>90993664
MAURICE OLD CRAZY HMM

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>>90993551
The market is gone, simple as that.

You can say the same thing about handcrafted architecture buildings from 100 years ago. Back then there may have been 3000 wood working companies in the US who would carve handrails and statues (more supply = less cost). Try to do that todat when there's 200 woodworking companies left, and cost = high

>>90994029
>It's not, relax.
Sure, Famicom.

>>90994093
No it is not, otherwise Voltron:LD would of never been made and that Mir would of never been founded.

>>90993551
Too problematic.

>>90993551
Jew

>>90994142
If this was a Famicom thread there will be walls of /a/ stuff in this thread by now, it's not Famicom.

>>90994155
Nope, it's the SJW, Fujo & Tumblr trash that is problematic.
>>90994161
Eric Goldberg will like to have a word with you.

>>90993551
Time. It'd take too long to make.

Pick any two: Good, Fast, or Cheap.

>>90994930
Good, 8 to 12 months is a must for effort.

>>90994930
literally this
all these other answers sound like people pecking around the answer but they don't actually know

>>90995124
Debunked as doing that makes you a idiot, you just do things good, thats it.

>Give me 1 good reason why cartoons can't look like this anymore.

Most animators/storyboarders/character designers in the industry can't draw like that anymore.

Some of the supervisors can, the rest of them resort to napkin-tier doodles or Adventure Time shit and cry when they're told to study with life drawing.

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>theatrical shorts look better than television series
>NUH UH ITS NOT BUDGET! IT JUST MUST BE THAT PEOPLE STOPPED BEING GOOD AT ANIMATION!

Why is /co/ so ignorant of it's own fucking medium?

>>90995230
Yes they can, they just don't hire them anymore.

If anything they should be told to study Tex Avery.

>>90993551
Lower budget, higher wages for American animators, tablet drawing having tools that stifle mastery, simplification of character design to speed things along.

>>90994214
Fuck off kike whore

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>>90995281
There once was a time when TV animation had effort in it.

>>90995281
90's TV cartoon animation > current TV cartoon animation

>>90995331
>i'm not tmsfag I SWEAR!

>>90995331
>>90995341
You could still see "quality" and errors in old shows and see effort in new.

>>90995341
And if we're were allowed to run the industry it will be like that again and will put Voltron:LD to shame in no time flat.

>>90995364
Sure, but exceptions don't change the general rule.

>>90994029
Nothing is worse than 70s, stupid cunt.

>>90995380
Just do your best to see every 2D film in theatres.

>>90993551
You are comparing a theatrical short to television animation.

A proper comparison would be to Piper or Inner Workings, which look just as impressive.

>>90995403
70s cartoons at least had construction and had artists that went to life classes.

>>90995450
CGI looks like trash.

>>90993551
art schools are filled with rich kids that want to paint emotions with menstrual blood instead of working.

>>90995441
I'm not seeing any Korean animation studios.

>>90995450
Tiny Toons will like to have a word with you.

>>90995441
>>90995508

all the spielberg cartoons had higher animation budgets than most other cartoons of the era. you are incredibly ignorant of the medium you claim to love so much.

>>90995505
>>90995441 has Akom and Mir has been brought up a few times here.
>>90995500
Then put up standers before passing, nothing lower then Seymour Kneitel will be passable in the industry.

>>90995441

>done by actual animators instead of korean slaves

thanks for proving my point.

>>90995508
See:
>>90995554

At the risk of sounding like Famicom, only the TMS episodes actually had above-average animation anyway.

>>90995554
You forgot about Bruce Timm & Disney shows from that time frame as well.

>>90995477
That's a brash statement. Did cg eliminate traditional animation, yes. But calling it flat it bad is foolhardy

who the fuck even watches animated television on tv nowadays? I torrent almost all of my shows, its why cartoon network is like 90% TTGO right now

not only is the reason budget, the market is also disappearing so that makes the budget even smaller

>everyone pretends to forgot hanna-barbera and the toy commercials in the 80s
>everyone pretends that television animation was always like the exceptions instead of the rules

>>90995584
No, its equivalent would be Hanna Barbera Cartoons but done in flash.

>>90995583
see
>>90995601

eventually networks stopped spending so much money on this shit because they realized they didn't need to and never needed to in the first place. all of these examples are outliers, and even then these outliers do not look as good as the classic theatrical shorts.

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Asami is an attractive cartoon character

>b-but she is a lesbian
if we are going with the /co/ mindset that Bryke simply changed her into being a lesbian in the last season then for the first three seasons she was a perfectly attractive straight character design

>>90995573
>Not seeing Akom who is not only Korean but are also not slaves either as they get payed 15,000 won a hour.
>>90995582
TMS was NEAR feature grade, Wang was the studio that did above-average animation and thats only when they stopped using those think lines that they used in their earlier episodes.

>>90995601
>everyone pretends to forgot hanna-barbera
You mean some of the most limited animation on TV?

>>90995591
finally, a reasonable response.

What about Anime? Why does TV anime look so much better?

>>90995704
Far fewer individual drawings + Slave wages + A market that buys it.

>>90993551
It is budget because the nameless people in animation in the 30-50s were willing to work insane hours for a studio apartment with a shower down the hall and thats' not the case anymore.

>>90995704
lower budget because they pay their animators minimum wage (and manage to find ways to pay lower than that) and a much much larger market with a huge merchandise base

>>90995654
>attractive
>is the most generic plot device known to AtLA

Yeah no. She's physically attractive but her character and personality are garbage horseshit.

>zuko with make up
wew lad

>>90995731
Framerate fluctuation is the best thing that ever happened to Japanese animation

>>90995565
>Then put up standers before passing,
they can't because the price of the year is too high.
That's the trick, the schools are too expensive so they accept whoever can pay.

>>90995750
We can fix that, the UN will make sure of that.
>>90995758
This.

>>90995815
Then lower down the cost.

Standers are needed to fix the industry, nothing lower then Seymour Kneitel.

>>90995801

>John K fixed Hanna Barbera in 85

imagine being this delusional

>>90995801

>Debunked

no, all you've said so far is "nuh uh" but you haven't posted any proof that it's all on the budget.

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>>90995828
>We can fix that, the UN will make sure of that.

>people who don't know shit about animation or animation history pretending that they somehow know everything

The fact that you attempt to compare THEATRICAL SHORTS AND FILMS to fucking TELEVISION CARTOONS tells me everything I need to know.

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>>90995828

>We can fix that, the UN will make sure of that.

what

>>90994161
Untalented jews

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>>90995890
He did, see 80s Jetsons (pic related).

Also Voltron:LD is only $90,000 a episode and look how that show looks.

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>>90995758
>thread about why don't cartoons look better
>shows one
>yeah but her backstory and personality are shit

>>90996012

>Also Voltron:LD is only $90,000 a episode and look how that show looks.

So you're telling me you think voltron looks as good as theatrical shorts?

>>90993551
Feminism.

>>90996031
Fair enough. But to also be fair I'm hyped up on a little bit of crack and haven't slept in almost 48 hours. Misinterpretation of the threads subject is not a huge tragefy.

>>90996044
>They show up if a country is fucked up.
I think they may have higher priorities than the quality of a country's television animation.

>>90996047
No, but better then everything else airing as of now.

And I'm talking about the new one from Mir.

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>>90995664
>some of the most limited animation on TV?
You're not really aware of the other cartoons that were on air at the time, are you? Hanna Barbera was at the top of the pack.

>>90995606
You are blaming the medium when Pixar and some dreamworks titles are executed just fine

>>90996169
??????????

>>90996210
The worlds best turd sculpter is still a turd sculpter

>>90996191
Until Japan shaped up in the 80s.

>>90996232
And the worse metaphors are your own because you aren't giving valid points.

>>90996350
>implying most people in our country give a shit about the animation industry.

>>90996459
They do, otherwise they wouldn't be ripping on Teen Titans Go as much.

And the kids who watch it just want to be like James Rolfe & Doug Walker.

>>90996497
>they

I'm pretty "they" are just a vocal minority. the only people who obsessively rip on TTG are manchildren. if that weren't the case, teen titans go wouldn't be as popular as it currently is.

>>90996420
CGI is unable to articulate craft and individual vision like 2D.

1. Constant reusing of assets, like flash or puppet shows
2. Excessively complicated process that requires many people on a single character or object, removing individual style and flair from cuts
3. The nature of model manipulation restricts unique expressions and movements, and stiffens character animation
4. Every bit of actual personal vision comes down to the storyboarder (works in 2D) and the character designer (works in 2D) the modelers and animators are just assemblyline workers
5. If you compare 2D storyboards to the finished product, you will ALWAYS see significant sacrifice to the animation of the characters
6. Sameface is fucking rampant because of stagnant ability of 3rd world assembly line workers (to be fair this is a 2D problem too)

>>90996654
>all married folks with lives and its because of their kids hating it is why it is such a big deal

i seriously don't understand what you're trying to say.

>>90996739
>Kids watch James Rolf & Doug Walker
>Kids want to rip apart something from their era and not theirs.
>Kids see TTG.
>Kids rip it apart.

It's that simple.

>>90996634
2D has reused assets, whether it's reusing sections of scene for length. As far as personality and labor goes it can go both ways. Characters can be squash and stretched in cg, the reason some don't like Sheri or frozen is to get some realism across. Not to say traditional works like early Disney couldn't convey realism but doing it with cg is a lot easier. For the assembly line worker thing goes, that's animation in a nutshell. It's a tedious labor intensive job that requires months for a good hour or more of content.

>>90996634
Not to mention how unflexible CGI is.

There are ways to pose a body or reaction that makes it funnier or make more sense or look nicer.

In 2D you draw another frame as usual, just depends on the skill of the artist. In CG, you would need to model a new model which will rarely happen for brief/unique movements even at theatrical quality.

>>90996852
Stop making excuses when you don't know what you are talking about

>reused assets
Sure, but thats only low end studios and they can be called out on it, CGI inherently HAS TO ALWAYS

>squash and stretch
Sure, very basic animation can be done.

>realism
It's the other way around, CGI forces the animators to go for "real" movement. Realism doesn't make for the best looking animation. Look at an average rotoscope job vs animation that uses tried and true exaggeration and principles to get the visuals across.

>assemblyline worker
You ignore the difference between individual input in cuts with 2D (unless it's HB in the 70's) and no individual input in CG, due to the complexity and ineptitude in 2D principles like the storyboarders.

Jesus peoples just stop responding!
or sage at least

>>90997009
The industry will not get better until we do something about it.

>>90993677
The fact that you can erase so easily digitally is, in my opinion, the main reason nobody gets better.

If you don't have to scrap a piece of garbage because you simply can't erase it any further you never have the momentary-pressure that forces you to pay attention to every stroke. You never have to draw or paint with intent if you can doodle like a jackass and clean the lines up later.

Remember kids, unless it was animated frame by frame, on self made paper made from self grown fibers, drawn with self made ink, it's zero effort computer shit.

>>90997009
t. tumblr

>>90995281
/co/ consists of manchildren stuck in the past instead of people who actually work in the industry

>>90997061
Remember kids, if you have no response to legitimate complaints or arguments, just strawman the opposition in such a way as to sound ridiculous.

So Famicom is literally insane, right? As in, he doesn't not know the difference between reality and what's in his head.

>>90997101
>TMS saved animation

>>90997090
>you have to be a cog in a broken machine in order to know it needs to be fixed

If you are working in the broken machine odds are you don't think it's broken.

>>90997009
What do you mean?

Why is this thread a problem? Even if you're a faggot you have to see the clear difference between old animation and new.

Would you rather some fucking mouse shills talk shit in another DCEU thread? This is literally the type of thread you should want MORE of on /co/.

>>90997167
>don't recognize tmsfag
>reddit spacing
>"mouse shills"
You are such a newfag it hurt.

>>90997225
Explain how TMS saved animation, i'm curious what people are triggered about.

>>90997256
>Newfag
I've been here for years faggot. I've literally never posted on reddit. Good try though, newfag. See I can do it to.

>>90997375
What did TMS actually work on?

How did it spread to the Cartoon Cartoon generation of showrunners?

>>90997415
>deleted his post

Are people really THIS triggered? Did you used to sperg a lot?

>>90993551
things change over time

>>90997504
If anything, the current state of TV animation is a return to form of 1960s-early 1980's

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>mfw

>>90997466
There was a typo.
>>90997550
More like 1969-1980.

We can fix this, we did it before.

>>90997061
But that's right.

Goes the same way for movies too. Not shot and printed on celluloid it really isn't a film.

>>90997625
But what was the magic ingredient? Budget? Slave labor? Skill? Openminded executives?

>>90997702
Trusted gifted staff, separate budget just for the animation alone, no slave labor (at the time they got payed 2600 yen a hour, now it's 6600 yen a hour due to the cost of living in Tokyo and inflation) and the TMS executives were extremely open minded.

>>90997793
What about their budget compared to say, Adventure Time or Steven?

Adjusting for inflation of course.

It's funny how he stopped posting Hope.

>>90997820
TMS projects with inflation will be at $3 million dollars compared to AT & SU's $89,000 dollar budget.

>>90997943
There you go.

I love animation, but if I was an executive who only cares about impressing my shareholders, why would I invest more money?

>>90998010
You will be more respected.

Just note that in the US shows are funded by the network itself unlike Japan which uses sponsors.

>>90993648
Please, dude. Any $2 anime girl is hotter than that.

>>90998072
Anon...
http://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/zyRTKhMYaNUgDodaxg7CLA/

>>90998052
I suppose, but where is the market to impress? Kids will eat up TTG.

>>90998104
All I did was save the picture from a older thread, nothing wrong with that.

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>>90995798
Explain

>>90998104
Archive was a mistake

>>90998126
Kids watch TTG because they want to be like James Rolfe & Doug Walker and rip bad things apart.

Theres billions of people wanting the industry fixed.

>>90998129
Sure, you only used the same pictures, rhetorics and false informations than a notorious shitposter.

>>90998171
I have done none of those things.

>>90998138
The tricks that they learned to make acceptable looking work evolved into unique styles of movement removed from the Disney or Warner style.

Now they can make unique and dynamic animation at any price, and all the experimentation has led to several distinct schools of thought, which has lead to more diversity for shows and between cuts.

>>90998165
I think that's true but I don't know if TV is the best way to attack it first.

A theatrical 2D animated film doing really well could send vibrations to the whole industry.

>>90998204
And the gold is to now stop it and redeem the industry.

We did not elect Trump for nothing.

This board is dead.

>>90998233
Theatrical screanings are dead, TV is the new high end when net streaming is where TV as it is now is going to end up now.

>>90998052
>More respected
Don't all the knobs at the top of the heap basically rub dicks together? The actual quality of your product depends on all the people working below you, and the top guys know that. Investing limited amounts into a good team is a safer bet than mistaken investing a lot of money into a bad team.

I think most of the respect between the upper echelons has to do with them being respectable and not dumb chimps towards each other. Though, granted, in plenty of companies they are still dumb chimps all the time and you watch heads roll a lot.

>>90998234
Anime animation is fine and for TV it is actually better than ever.

Now artstyle, effects animation, lack of real OVAs, subject matter/influence, over processing and CGI are their own issues. Hope a revitalized world economy helps!

>>90998204
I was wondering more about the frame rate fluctuation thing. What exactly is this referring to and why is it so important?

>>90998251
bury it.

>>90998288
In short, we need another Bakshi Mighty Mouse.

Digital vs traditional has got barely anything to do with it, good western animators literally don't exist anymore.

>>90998312
He's probably referring to the number of frames you animate. A lot of Warner Bros cartoons animated on "twos", which means the reel ran at 24 FPS but only every other frame was actually animated. A lot of Disney was more expensive and was animated on ones, which meant all 24 frames per second were animated. Very cheap childrens' cartoons are sometimes animated on threes, so only one in three frames has movement.

Different studios had different approaches, but there's not specifically a reason why you can't switch it up to save money on some scenes and then invest a lot into more important areas. You'll have some sections without much quality and some sections with a lot of quality.

It doesn't make everything cheaper, it affects where you're allocating your resources.

>>90998352
They do exist, it's that idiots are not hiring them.

>>90998399
That's not true. It's that the more simplified designs are easier for everyone to work with, so you can be more dynamic and exciting on a lower budget. Realistic-looking Disney cartoons require everyone on the project to be at a level of competence that can reproduce that level of quality.

Simple looking Adventure Time stuff means your tweeners will be fine even if they care barely hold a pen, because all you need is for them to redraw boneless noodle arms. You put your good animators on scenes that are more technical and have special effects guys to do fire, explosions, magic, and whatever.

It's not that good animators don't exist, it's that they aren't drawing at their maximum ability so that other people can keep up with them and still get a product done in three weeks of production.

>>90995758
This. She was boring and she was boring because she was a character from Season 1 that never was intended to keep showing up.....so she was pointless as a result which also fed into her being boring all the more.

I've seen female characters who are flat chested who have appealing personalities.

>>90998312
Budget was so bad they had to animate on threes or fours, this low framerate allowed for better art, and created experimentation on how to make it presentable.

The standard for the US was so high from the start that we had to simplify character designs when the TV budgets came. Enter Hannah Barbera.

>>90993551
Because you don't have people like Disney of Chuck jones beating people with a stick to get this shit right.

>>90998488
>You can be more dynamic and exciting on a lower budget.
Debunked more then once.
>Realistic-looking Disney cartoons require everyone on the project to be at a level of competence that can reproduce that level of quality.
But thats what we want, standers.

>>90998562
But you do have Toshihiko Masuda & Kenji Hachizaki to set up standers.

>>90998381
Ah okay. I had actually learned about the whole twos thing from a thread a whilenback. I just assumed he was talking about something else

>>90998566
How has in been "debunked" that rigs and simplicity are cheaper than anatomically correct, hand-drawn, frame-by-frame animation?

Because if you achieved a cheaper product by exploiting college interns I'm pretty sure you should be fucking disqualified. That shit is highly unethical, and in some cases can lead to lawsuits if unpaid workers contribute too much to your final product without any compensation at all.

>>90998625
Read his post again?

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>>90998554
Neat

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>>90998625
Normies want anatomically correct, Avery/Clampett, hand-drawn, frame-by-frame zany animation with wild takes is the thing.

>>90998650
He's saying you can be equally dynamic with hand drawing - but here's the thing: he's being retarded.

The tweeners doing basic movements aren't where you're doing your dynamic and exciting animation. It's where you're saving money so you can pay the A-list guys to do dynamic stuff. It's not about an individual scene, but about the whole project.

If you're entire project is hyper-realistic, then it'll cost thirty times more overall than what Adventure Time would cost. Your top animators could work on either project, but you can actually afford to pay them in the case of the Adventure Time cartoon. You can also make a profit from Adventure Time.

Yes, beautiful, artistic work like animating a Salvidor Dali vision is going to be more visually impressive than Adventure Time, but it's far less achievable as an artistic product. And what do you want? Do you want a finished cartoon with a story to watch? Or do you want a three minute demo of technical skill? Because viewership seems to imply most people are happier seeing a finished product with an actual story.

>>90998695
We just don't know.

Sure my co-workers speak fondly of 90's cartoons, my parents speak fondly of 40's and 50's stuff

But would they actually turn out?

>>90998751
Also I should point out that the more dynamic parts of cartoons that use rigs ARE doing frame-by-frame animation. Rigs save a lot of money but they can't be used in an infinite number of situations, so when you're doing something unique with them, you're going to be doing a lot of hand-drawing anyway. Rigging saves money on the other parts of the animation. Simplicity is cheaper. Cheap means you can get more. It won't flow like a painting but goddamnit at least the cartoon will be done on time.

>>90993677
Tell that to the Korean guys slaving away doing tweens. You literally have no idea what you are talking about.

>>90998751
In short people want this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsQrKZcYtqg

>>90998792
Actual animator with Stockholm syndrome detected.

stuff got done in the past too

>>90998813
21,000 won a hour is not slaving away.

>>90995281
>modern 2D theatrical shorts look worse than old 2D theatrical shorts
>modern 3D theatrical films look amazing
>modern television series look worse than old television series

Stop deflecting

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>>90998990
>>90997850

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>I'm not Famicom
>posts the same screenshots
>"standers"

>>90999014
No, also other people have used the picture.

>>90993551
I'm only here for the legs

>>90998990
It's a shame that people take this bait seriously.

>>90999047
Sure.
What do you think of Sym-Bionic Titan?

>>90999091
It's not bait, it's facts.

Even Jerry Beck uses it.

>>90999109
I find it boring.

>>90999091
Someone explain why it's wrong, haven't seen any counterarguments so far ITT

>>90999091
It's a shame that there are peoples on /co/ nowadays who doesn't know that TMSfag is full of shit.

>>90999169
Explain why

Ah, the same anti-digital/cgi-rant is present on /co/ as it was on /a/.
Must be that turbo-autist famicom.

>>90999169

On the one side it's a shame because a lot of threads he's in devolve into a shitshow. On the other side you sometimes get cool anons who analyse stuff TMS worked on (like Sylvester & Tweety Mysteries or Rescue Rangers) and show what they did well and did poorly.

>>90999204
TMSfag is a shitposter with an extremely narrowed vision of animation who spouted false information on the Internet for years.
He always use the same files but recently he has gotten better and he decided to rename them.
http://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/SEXI9zZoosY4keUfnbGHPg/
http://desuarchive.org/co/search/filename/tms/

>>90999204
>>90999369
Also, you can recognize him because he always use the same phrases. For example whenever someone contradict him he claim that it has been "debunked" like here: >>90999400

>>90999400

Your mom came from multiple people

>>90999458
Loads of people use that word, lay off the guy and get back on topic.

Anime has filled the demand for sexy cartoon girls.

Compare cartoons now to cartoons in the 80s and early 90s, where there were a good number of female characters with realistic bodies, like April O'Neal or Cheetara.

Now that any kid or manchild can just log on to Crunchyroll if they wanna look at cartoon T&A, American cartoons are trying to differentiate by becoming more stylized.

If we're talking animation quality, it's not fair to compare shorts from the 40s to now. Shorts were made for theatrical release, so they had more budget and time allotted to their creation. Plus, they're shorter than your average cartoon episode. Your average cartoon episode is on a tighter budget and deadline, plus they're around 23 minutes long.

A better comparison would be comparing 40s shorts to animated movies. And the quality of something like Princess and the Frog is quite comparable to Red Hot Riding Hood, both in art style and animation.

>>90998921
>modern 2D theatrical shorts
Such as? They don't really exist anymore.

And aside from a few select cartoons in the late '80s/early '90s, TV animation has always been at least as bad as it is today.

>>90997341
You're trying too hard to fit in newfag. Try lurking for a few more years before embarrassing yourself again.

>>90993551
Overprotective parents and radical sjws.

Also, you should check out some French cartoons.

>>90999609
Not in the late 50s & early 60s, things did not go bad until 1969 and were fixed by 1981.

It's only after Return Of The Joker where things jumped shark, but we can fix it.

>>90999616
The gold is to tell them to fuck off.

This industry is for us cartoonists, not for those types of people.

>>90999690
You are not a cartoonist.

>>90999700
Yes, I am.

>>90999714
Prove it.

>>90999369
>>90999361
>>90999458
Ok, but can you give specifics?

>>90999771
Okay, Famicom.
http://famihamu64.deviantart.com/art/Rough-drawings-6-666824882

>>90999778
>>90999369 & >>90999458 are lying, don't listen to him as he made both those posts.

>>90999795
Regardless I have the needed skills that you people lack.

>>90999847
Like the ability to copy and post a picture from someone else's gallery?

Still no proof that YOU, anonymous user of a mongolian wood-carving symposium, are actually a cartoonist.

>>90999822
You post like an autist but at least you've stated a position

>>90996841
most kids love TTG, though. it doesnt matter what age yhe vocal minority is.

>>90997158
so you have you no idea what you're talking about, but you still want to sound pretentious

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>>90993551
Anon, I have your answer right here

>>91000722
No counterargument detected.

>>90994151
weird b8 m8

The one thing I'll never understand about Famicom's bait is his love for HAMTARO of all things. the animation in that show is meh at best.

>>91001271
Based Dezaki on the movies though.

>>90998695
Fred Quimby hated this cartoon with a passion.

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>>91001488
Hated would be past tense
I still hate this piece of garbage

>>91001271
Hamtaro is a pretty good show, but I never wanna talk about it lest he show up

>>90995654
>but she is a lesbian
christ, its like you all forget bisexual is a thing

>>90993551

if it means that I don't have to look through another stupid "wolf whistle" gag, it's a hit that I'm willing to take