This was the best Justice League run. Prove me wrong.

>>90912687
Storytime, please? I've never read this series

>>90912687
People will pick JLI to be interesting but the Morrison-Waid-Kelly run of JLA not only is the best Justice League run but it's one of the all-time great team books period.

>>90912687
the JLA's existence necessitates they be challenged...but to no avail

>>90912705
https://mega.nz/#!JI8wlLba!shUVBUwc7906PDYxXRHz6ucGE92ZesrZvcybUvVef4Q

You are correct. Kelly's run is the only one you'll get a big argument for. Sometimes JLI but I think people know that has niche appeal.

>>90912687
Well yeah. Morrison knew how to make everyone shine.

Even after Superman got electrical powers he made it work. Hell, he even made that iteration of Superman interesting.

>>90912840
You are a gentlemen and a true bro. I greatly appreciate it.

>>90912796
Giffen/DeMatteis Justice League is the best Justice League, and Ostrander Suicide Squad is DC's all-time greatest team book.

>>90913012
What did he ever do to make Wonder Woman shine?

>>90913221
what did anyone ever do to make Wonder Woman shine?

>>90913245
I just want to dispute the claim specifically for Morrison.

It's not "everyone" if it's not everyone.

>>90912687
>the whole JL gets captured by white martians pretty easily
>except Batman who beats 3 of them alone with a match

But yeah it was pretty good.

Comics are a visual medium, so terrible art disqualifies this run from being the best.

It had the worst art in the history of the Justice League, until Jim Lee.

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>>90913221
>>90913245
She led the attack against Maggedon, had a pretty awesome fight against the Hyperclan, specifically Primaid and took charge more than once throughout the entire run.

More than anything, she acted like a commanding warrior, inspiring everyone around her, the way it should be.

Everyone in Morrison's run had their moment to shine and they all were written like they always should be written.

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>>90913419
How else do you prove Batman to be a worthy member of a team composed by gods?

And he didn't fought them with a match, btw.

>>90913664
Him beating one is fine, no other leaguer beat more than 1 even after he freed them.
That first panel is literally a match.

>>90913733
He used a match to light a bonfire, he didn't beat them with a match, like you implied. And him beating three of them was mostly because, as previous pages show, the Hyperclan underestimated Batman because he's "just a man". Morrison shows what underestimating Batman really means.

>>90913221
dark horse GOAT team book: Secret Six

>>90913733
they were martians who are vulnerable to fire. he could beat 100 krytonia's with one rock of kytponite

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>>90912687
This is still my favorite JLA story.

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>>90913221
>What did he ever do to make Wonder Woman shine?

Oh he made her shine alright. Made her shine in two big ways. Two giant big ways.

her boobs I'm talking about her boobs

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>>90913808
>He beat them with a match, he didn't beat them with a match, like you implied

>>90913889
That was awesome.

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My favorite fact about that run. Was Morrison wanted Zauriel to be a new Hawkman with no links but the original, but DC told him no because Hawkmans backstory was still all messed up.He wanted fans to demand to call him Hawkman but we never did and let him down.

>>90912687
The shading is so overdone I fucking love the 90s

>>90913012
>Well yeah. Morrison knew how to make everyone shine.
>Even after Superman got electrical powers he made it work.

I feel in the JLA books they kind of jut ignored the change acted as if he had the same power. Honestly the Superman books themselves kind of did the same thing after a while.

>>90913221
It's hard for me to view theses opinions as anything other than hipster picks. JLI is a comedic book and therefore much easier to pull off, and Ostrander's Suicide Squad is an all-time classic but is still at times held back by being a product of its time and barely qualifies as a team book.

>>90913889
Batgod detractors always bitch about Batman being too OP in Morrison's run but they never bring how an unexperienced Connor Hawke took down the Key in this story, using Ollie's "ridiculous" trick arrows, no less.

Awesome story by the way.

>>90914182
Zauriel was fucking awesome though. Really surprising he never gained more traction outside of a few Shadowpact issues.

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>>90914279
Awesome page right here

>>90914182
>>90914322

I loved how Zauriel would mock the New Gods for calling themselves "gods"

>>90914329
I loved the part where he's calling Ollie a madman for using his trick arrows.

>>90914269
It's hard for me to view your opinions as anything other than casual opinions. A-list characters from an A-list creator? That's grade-A casual bait.

But I don't really care whether or not you are a casual, I was just being rude to counter your rudeness about hipsters. More importantly, how would Suicide Squad not qualify as a team book? Are you sure that you actually read it?

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>>90912687
We haven't had a good Justice League run since Kelly's (that's 13 fucking years). Prove me wrong.

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Another awesome moment

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>>90914528
I liked this one.

Anyone have the page were batman beats up plastic mans son and Plastic man watches as his belt buckle.

>>90914586
The Tornado's Path was a fun, kinda old-school story, but I'm not sure this qualifies as a run
Meltzer told two stories basically, and one was a shitty continuity porn crossover

>>90914435
I have read it, I said it barely qualifies. It is a team book but far from a traditional one, and the team dynamics were constantly changing in service of the given arcs.

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>>90914549

>>90914868
How does that make it "barely" qualify? Where is the rule that a team is supposed to have static membership?

>>90914913
What book was it that basically every issue or couple of issues the tea died and was replaced?

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>>90914903

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Kyle tried

>>90914978
I love how during that event, in the Young Justice issues Kyle changed costumes every single panel he was in. It was a real neat touch

>>90913221
>Giffen/DeMatteis Justice League is the best Justice League,
Agreed

Hunted down every issue of their JLI, JLA, and JLE along with the Quarterlies. It's about a 100 issue run total

>>90914942
Not Ostrander's Suicide Squad, which had quite a few members live the entire way through.

Are you sure that you actually read it? You didn't just read a Wikipedia article or read some memes about it on 4chan? Maybe you read someone else's run and you got confused.

>>90914279
Forget the key, he took down fucking Darkseid along with Atom. People who whine about Batgod in this run are casuals or haven't read it at all. It's the perfect book that shows every member of JLA at their best. Superman generating magnetic poles to the fucking moon or fighting angels, Aquaman's entrance on a great white(?)or the Batman moment from the Martian story. Everything was fucking hype. Though I agree with the anon about Wonder Woman.

>>90915139
>Though I agree with the anon about Wonder Woman.
And of course Morrison completely failed again to use her properly in Final Crisis.

>>90912796
Morrison did a better team book with his Doom Patrol.

>>90914913
Team dynamics are not necessarily roster related you insecure hipster.

>>90915114
I never said it was Ostrander's Suicide Squad. It was a team book I'm pretty sure I just don't know which one.

>>90915230
Don't be so vague then. Explain what it means. What team dynamics would encourage you to consider revoking a team book's qualifications as a team book?

>>90915193
Maybe she got short shrift in Final Crisis, but JLA remains one of her best portrayals ever. She may not have gotten the focus she deserved throughout the run, but her characterization as the distillation of femininity on a team of Gods that simultaneously served as a leader, a warrior, a sister, and a beauty that could not be ignored is one of the peaks of the character.

>>90915259
There's Giffen's Suicide Squad, where the whole team dies in the first issue and has to be replaced. I'm just trying to figure out why Anon said that Ostrander's Suicide Squad "barely qualifies", because it's such a bizarre thing to say.

If I don't get a straight answer then it's going to bug me all week.

>>90915276
I don't really give a shit about convincing you. I'd cite Rick Flagg's ever shifting PTSD/guilt over what he does or Boomer's and Deadshot's shifting loyalties and apathy based on the given arc, but you aren't concerned with having a discussion.

>>90915409
>I'd cite Rick Flagg's ever shifting PTSD/guilt over what he does or Boomer's and Deadshot's shifting loyalties and apathy based on the given arc
So how do those aspects work against it being a team book?

>>90914435
>It's hard for me to view your opinions as anything other than casual opinions. A-list characters from an A-list creator? That's grade-A casual bait.

This is the most hipster thing I've read in a long time.

I agree OP.
When I was a little shitter, seeing that "I know your secret" scene, solidified Batman as my favorite capeman for the foreseeable future

>>90915471
Read the next sentence.

>>90915443
Is this a fucking interview? How about you read over what I've already said and figure it out?

>>90915510
No, it's a "prove me wrong" thread. You should be able to back up the statements that you are making in a thread like this.

Why would [character in a team doesn't enjoy being on that team] make you say "Hey, maybe this isn't a team book"?

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>>90915139
>or fighting angels,
Like a boss

>>90914269
>but is still at times held back by being a product of its time
How exactly is Ostrander run held back by being a product of its time?

JLA was the only post crisis JL run and then you had shit with the fake league for the better part of 10 years

>>90915559
I didn't start the thread, and you haven't addressed a single thing I've said outside of asking inane questions over and over again. I was trying to have a discussion about how the team dynamics in Suicide Squad were largely superfluous and ever changing due to the conceptual nature of the book but God knows that didn't happen.

>>90915584
shit blue superman popping up ruins the moment

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>>90915669
Superman Blue was the shit.

>>90915634
>How exactly is Ostrander run held back by being a product of its time?


It's too much of a product of the reagan era

>>90915657
I'm just trying to figure out what you mean, because you've been incredibly vague. I can't hold a discussion with you if I'm not sure what you mean.

How were the team dynamics superfluous? How would the fact that team dynamics shifted make you reconsider its status as a team book?

>>90915727
What does that mean?

>>90915634
Despite undeniably being in the forefront of comics at the time and advancing the medium across the board in these categories, it still suffers from stilted pacing, action, plotting, and dialogue at times.

>>90915810
>the medium
Oh... you're one of those...

>the team dynamics in Suicide Squad
>superfluous

The fuck, team dynamics often have a bigger focus than whatever mission are doing at the moment.

>>90915732
They weren't a team.

>>90915857
Great discussion.

>>90915727
So is Watchmen, what's your point?

>>90914586
Ah, the one cover where Wonder Woman somehow has the smallest boobs out of everyone else on it

>>90915969
>a team isn't a team
What a bizarre thing to say.

>>90915926
And they rarely amounted to anything beyond a given arc. Aside from Rick Flagg maybe.

>>90916092

Why do you think it's a bizarre thing to say?

>>90916098
What the hell does this even means?

>>90916021
No,watchmen is sert in the 80's. and TDKR is set in the cold world. It's different than a comic that is purely reagan years in the era of iran, contra, and all that. Post 70's inteventionism was different.

>>90915584
DC angels are pretty much totally disposable for the most part, with the exception of the archangels

>>90915584

I swear to christ, I'd have this blown up to a poster years ago if the awesome event wasn't ruined by the electric-blue costume.

And I *liked* electro-supes. But goddamit, I could've have classic supes wrestling the angel that tore down the walls of jericho, instead he was forced by DC to use this costume for, what, 3 issues before switching back. Simply ruined.

>>90916137
The majority of Suicide Squad was in the Bush years.

>>90916021
Nixon is the president in Watchmen.

>>90916183
In-universe it's the Nixon era, but in the real world it's a product of the Reagan era.

>>90916150
Asmodel was as strong as regular Superman. The fact that Superman Blue was holding his own was impressive as hell.

>>90916132
What do you think it means?

>>90915969
Yeah, but Moore himself stated the comic is anti-reagan, and only used Nixon to avoid controversy.

>>90915139
Don't forget for a good chunk of his run, he had to use Hippolyta.

Then again he didn't do much with Hippy either.

>>90916230
It means that you recognize that it was a mistake to say that Suicide Squad "barely qualifies" as a team book, but you hate the feeling of admitting to being wrong, so you're going to argue about it halfheartedly for a couple of hours instead.

>>90912687
That was a very good era for the JLA (and the DCU in general) with lots of miniseries, one-shots and whatnot. Here are my list of recommendations starting with the formation of the team till Kelly's run. Hopefully it will help some of you.

>Kingdom come by waid (I think this is a thematic precursor of the era)
>Aztek by morrison & millar (kind of a companion to Morrison's run)
>Justice league midsummer's nightmare by waid (formation of the team)
>Jla by morrison
>Jla/wildcats by morrison
>Jla year one by waid
>Justice league the nail by alan davis (a fun elseworlds book)
>Martian manhunter by ostrander (another kind of companion series)
>Dc one million by morrison
>The kingdom by waid (shares some characters and themes with this JLA era)
>Hourman by peyer (fleshing out morrison's hourman)
>Jla earth 2 by morrison
>Jla by waid
>Orion by simonson (continuing orion's story after morrison's jla...)
>Silver age event by waid (referenced in tower of babel, a fun and underrated event mostly by waid)
>Jla heaven's ladder by waid
>Jla a league of one by moeller (wondy in the spotlight)
>Justice leagues by peyer (an average event with some fun issues)
>Jla incarnations by ostrander (MASSIVELY underrated series)
>Jla by kelly
>Jla/jsa virtue and vice by goyer & johns
>Jla welcome to the working week by patton oswalt of all people (interesting take on the league)
>Jla/avengers by busiek
>Formerly known as the justice league by giffen & dematteis
>Jla classified vol 1 by morrison (a short return)

>>90916253
You clicked on the wrong shitpost.

>>90916230
No idea.
If you mean in terms of character development you are wrong.
If you mean in terms of personal achievements then you missed the point of run.
If you mean in terms of popularity then you are an idiot.

>>90916316
You haven't made one fucking statement to the contrary this entire time or addressed a single point I brought up so fuck off.

>>90916355
A statement to the contrary of what? You haven't made any concrete points to counter, you've spent the whole time being unnecessarily vague and/or making outright shitposts like >>90915969.

>>90916351
Who had great character development outside of Flagg and maybe Waller?
What the fuck do you mean by personal achievements and popularity?

>>90916320
I like the Kelly run for the most part but i sincerely dislike The Obsidian Age and Golden Perfect. Nowhere near Morrison's level of enjoyment.

>>90916204
>but in the real world it's a product of the Reagan era.


No.

>>90916253
And anti-pinochet and anti-maggie and anti neoliberalism in general. It doesnt meant it was a product of the reagan years as SS was.

>>90916355
Your only point is, the weren't perfectly functional group full of mentally stable individuals, therefore they aren't a team, which also disqualify most of supervillans teams, as teams.

>>90916389
A statement to the contrary that it barely qualifies as a team book you fencesitting insecure fuck.

>>90916408
Deadshot and Count Vertigo both in their own ways finding something worth living for. Ben learning to put his past behind him. Barbara fucking Gordon.

>>90916439
Nobody can explain how you're wrong because you haven't explained in the first place why you think that it "barely qualifies".

And then you said that it isn't even a team at all, which indicates that you have no desire to treat this as a serious discussion and you're only here to shitpost. Or would you like to retract that post?

I can't believe people have been discussing for almost an hour whether Ostrander's Suicide Squad is a team or not.

>>90916408
And Deadshot, Count vertigo, Nighshade, Bronze Tiger, Vixen, the lady psychiatrist, and Oracle come to mind.

>>90916543
It's not a team, see >>90915969.

>>90916543
The initial discussion was because I said it barely qualifies as a team book, and then it was followed up by asshats like >>90916521 who said that I was wrong but also that I never said anything at all to begin with.

>>90916563
That's vague and nonsubstantive you can't argue with that.

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>>90912687
I actually liked what Kelly did more than Morrison desu. Obsidian Age is by far my favorite JLA story.

However, this era of JLA is undoubtably its finest period.

>>90916612
>you say that it barely qualifies as a team
>someone asks you to explain
>you refuse to explain
>you go on to say that it's not a team
So is it a team or not? Your posts are disagreeing with each other.

>>90916428
>Yes. This is not anti-Americanism, it’s anti-Reaganism
>At the risk of doing a depressing comic book we thought that it would be nice to try and … yeah, try and scare a little bit so that people would just stop and think about their country and their politics
>t. Moore
And even if it was still anti-maggie and anti-pinochet, that would still make it a product of its era.

OK, so, to those arguing here, I need a concise definition / explanation / opinion as to why Ostrander's Suicide Squad does not qualify as a team book. Please, enlighten me. I'm not here to shitpost, but looking for an actual honest opinion.

Thanks!

>>90916695
>I say that it barely qualifies as a team
>I explain why I think that
>You repeatedly ask the same questions over and over again instead of addressing what I say
>I say it's not a team to give you a concrete point of discussion and you only use it to attack me for inconsistency

Read the thread and figure it out.

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>>90916543

Really you cant on /co. this is par for the course on this board

>>90916543
The writing style in this thread screams Cranky. Someone mention crossovers, recommendations, or Madman

>>90916738
>>90914868
>>90915409

>>90916751
>I say it's not a team to give you a concrete point of discussion
So you said something that you don't believe in order to receive more (You)s, and now you're feigning to be upset that people are attacking you for that.

Right, how dare people call you out for being inconsistent after you post inconsistently. The sheer nerve.

Maybe you didn't start this discussion with the intention of being a troll, but a troll is what you have now become.

>>90916817
But you also said >>90915969, so how does that work?

>>90916855
Do you think it's a team? You still haven't commented one way or another. But I'm the troll.

>>90916886
I just got fed up with the inane bullshit and said that to see if anyone would actually contradict me on a blatant and concrete point of discussion but sure enough no one was interested.

>>90916898
Yes, the Suicide Squad is a team.

But in the quest for more (You)s, you had to claim that it isn't. Honestly, you have my pity.

>>90916930
People have been contradicting your blatant bullshit the entire time.

>the team dynamics didn't stay exactly the same the whole way through, so it barely qualifies
>some of the members were mentally unstable or disloyal, so it barely qualifies
Blatantly bullshit. There are no rules anywhere which say that those criteria make a team book only just barely qualify as a team book.

>>90916940
Hey you actually took a side! Congratulations on no longer being a pedantic pussified fuckwad! I know it was hard for someone as enlightened as you to respond to such vague opinions!

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>>90912687
not enough tits

>>90916817

I think I got it. The SS under Ostrander was not consistent in their characterization at all.

Generally each character's personality was recognizable, but their dynamics as a team shifted in service of the arcs as you said.

So while they were the same characters, it was not the same "team", and the identity of the group was not so clear cut or set in stone.

Maybe there was some individual character progression (Rick flag, deadshot), but the "team" was never the same. Unlike the JLA, which was solid and you knew what to expect from each character, even when they introduced new ones.

Was this your point? I can agree with that.

>>90917010
Oh so you actually want to start having a discussion as to what constitutes a team book now? Rewording what I wrote is not a good start.

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>>90917052
...and asses

Also, we all agree Plastic Man is the most underrated JL member, right?

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>>90917073
Underrated by whom? Everyone likes ol Plas.

Would this series have been even better if Hal was the GL instead of Kyle? Or was the bromance between Kyle and Hal too good

>>90917138
Kyle and Wally, sorry

>>90917062
You have been asked for a couple hours now to explain what you meant. If my previous post misunderstands what you meant, then you probably shouldn't have been spending the last two hours refusing to explain what you meant.

So, what constitutes a team book?
>it's a book about a team
We can agree on this, yes?

And we can agree that the Suicide Squad (team) is a team, yes?

If so, then Suicide Squad (book) is 100% a team book, not just "barely" so.

>>90917138

You could take any story with Kyle, replace him with any other lantern, and it becomes better.

>>90917138
It would've been better if it had been Hal and Barry. But Kyle and Wally was awesome. Specially since they weren't even on good terms for the first few issues, with Wally calling him "Second Rate Green Lantern" and whatnot and Kyle being insecure about everything then becoming the hero he set out to be.

>>90917055
Yes, thank you. The individual characterization was consistent but the nature of the concept of the book meant that the team dynamics were constantly in flux/borderline non-existent in any given storyline. The only identity that the Squad has as a team is that they were an expendable government operation with conflicting motivations, which is why I think that it is far from a traditional team book. It was more concerned with exploring the overall concepts and ambiguities of Black Ops/government loyalty and individuality than consistent team dynamics.

>>90917052
>>90917068

The Benes-era JLA was absolute garbage, though.

>>90917197
Kyle is integral to what makes Morrison's JLA work and arguably got his best development there.

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>>90917271
good fap-material tho

>>90917188
I'm done talking with you you pedantic fuck.

>>90917292
Making Dinah the leader was completely retarded too.

>>90917121
the general public I guess
he doesn't really get talked about or written about much any longer unfortunately

>>90917138

Growing up in the 90's, I absolutely loved Kyle, because he was an artist and kind of the "new guy" , who had very little experience and was the last GL. His youth and "childish" attitude was something I related to (same with Wally, but not so much).

Hal at the time was portrayed as the greatest GL that ever lived, the one with the most experience, the most serious one, and also as fucking Parallax, the one who lost it all and went mad with power after killing every last GL.

So for me, Hal was a legend to be feared. They would've had to erase that whole arc to fit him in JLA.

Also he was more related to Barry than Wally.

>>90915996
People deserve to be laughed at if they can't tell the difference between the medium, the industry and the genre.

>>90917253
>. It was more concerned with exploring the overall concepts and ambiguities of Black Ops/government loyalty and individuality than consistent team dynamics.

Yeah, I'm 100% behind this.

Other assholes arguing here are completely missing the poing of what you said.

>>90917447
Great discussion.

>>90917197
I don't think Circle of Fire would work at all with anyone other than Kyle.

>>90916667
man mahnke's current art really doesn't hold up to this stuff

>>90918804
Neither would Tower Of Babel.

>>90917367
does he even still exist they mentioned him in the JLI nu52 first issue. then later reintroduced him with an origin then never mentioned him again.

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>>90921209
I always hated that guy's art. He ruined most of Our Worlds at War too.

>>90921209
Kelly really liked that ship. That is the "breakup" issue, and he even has WW lie about their possible future together in order to break up the not-really-dating relationship

>>90922212
Fuck yeah Supes

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>>90921282
their daughter is pretty cool

>>90912840
Cool

>159 replies
>No mention of how he ruined Eiling

Well, I guess only I cared.

>>90924560
where did he even appear before that JLA arc?

>>90924560
I care.

>>90926466
Captain Atom, by /co/'s darling Greg Weisman and comics legend Cary Bates.

And he appeared in John Ostrander's Suicide Squad, which according to this thread is not a team comic.

>>90913419
>they purposely ignored Batman and focused on the others because he didn't have powers
>he proceeds to ambush them with their weakness now that he's off their radar
>this is apparently bullshit

>>90927761
Actually they didn't finish him off because his jet was on fire and they couldn't approach it.

>>90914001
"He beat them with a match" implies that all it took was one measly little matchstick lit to scare them off, which would be ridiculous of course.

He used the matchstick to set off a ring of fire surrounding them, preventing them from escaping or using their powers (the whole weakness-to-fire thing isn't just physical, it's psychically paralyzing to Martians).

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Dont mind me posting issues 1 to 9

>>90914250
Incorrect. In the Prometheus story he uses his magnetic abilities to save a ton of people by making some magnetic pole thing. It was sweet.

>>90913995
Morrison really did kill it on the art duties too

>>90931641
Nice.

>>90919302
Hitman miniseries by Ennis when?

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>>90912687
I have one question about it though...

in the alternate future ruled by Darkseid, where Batman was in that badass costume, they said he was tortured by DeSaad, right? Like, in almost every way imaginable.

Did that include rape, you think? Or something to a similar extent? I mean, they talk about how he was shaking and all that, but I always wondered how extreme the torture got, cause Bruce was weird as shit.

>>90913271
Kelly himself blew Morrison out of the water with his Wonder Woman focused arc, and that arc wasn't even good.

Morrison didn't even try with her, and IIRC he admits this later on specifically in regards to her treatment in Final Crisis.

>>90931641
>1 to 9
Fuck yeah we're gonna see Ivo and Morrow toast to the old days.

>>90913419
This was during a time when people were disputing Batman's worthiness of being on the JLA at all. The sentiment of wanting Batman to be isolated in his corner of the DCU and limited to street crime and even staying away from sci-fi and magic elements altogether was strong back then because of the popularity of the '89 movie and TAS.

Morrison was the one who went back and looked at Batman's role in the classic Gardner Fox JLA and updated it for modern times. So while it seems excessive in retrospect, this run was crucial for the character and had to prove to readers WHY Batman was cool.

In fact, the whole JLA had this problem at the time with popular opinion being that DC characters were overpowered, much of the 80's was spent depowering them, so this run was actually very subversive.

>>90931641
Nice

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>>90932119
>Nice.

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>>90932448
>Fuck yeah we're gonna see Ivo and Morrow toast to the old days.
This

>>90922212
Why is everyone gritting their teeth super hard

>>90912687
>Grant Morrison
I believe you bronon

>>90932941
Jesus

>>90932853
Cause that's what you do in the 90's.

>>90932232
Ennis just did a All-Star Section 8 miniseries

>>90917138
No. Fuck Hal. He and Barry having come back was the second worst shit ever done to comics.

>>90932995
>Roll call
>Superman?
It's the little details that make this great.

>>90933254
Agreed

>>90932498
Morrison basically gave the League its balls back.