I strongly dislike the Canadian mandates concerning it's

>>90910718
Back to whatever shithole you came from.

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nice post

>>90910720
Why are you so upset

that's a cute girl
maybe a bit on the young side but I'm bad at judging ages

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>>90910720
>>90910726

Is my post not reasonable? How would suppose I improve my initial argument? Or do you have a rebuttal? I'd like to hear you out.

>>90910971
She's of age, married and has a child.

Her husband looks like a fucking cuck though

>>90910718
As if the industry isn't already homogeneous as fuck.

>>90910718
>mandates
>animation
If this is a thing in your country, you don't live in a free country.

Labor and safety laws should be the only things necessary to govern art. If your government tells you what you can and can't draw, you might as well live in a 3rd world shithole.

>>90910718
Could you elaborate? We're not all familiar with your country's laws, buddy.

>>90911086
I feel like OP isn't telling us something.
Like I doubt there's really any regulation concerning animation aimed at adults, then again Canada never produced any.

>>90910718
Look on the bright side, faggot: if the future you fear ever comes true, nobody can make an entire cartoon calling you out for being such a little bitch.

dat girl

>>90911
I am canadian and OP is gay

You are wrong and uninformed

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I didn't consider this, but with the way things are going, I can't disagree with that being a possibility.

Personally, I'm attempting to work on an independent animation group with other artists to make explicitly experimental animation. I feel like staying outside the studio system is the most surefire way to maintain creative vision that may not follow the grain.

For instance, right now we're working on an animation about basically a near future where america goes full brazil tier, and amongst other predictive scifi, essentially it's about offending snd frightening americans into realizing things going to shit is absolutely possible and can happen very very quickly. I was born and lived in a foreign country long enough to see it go from a livable place to a socialist mad max hellhole, and I'm absolutely seeing the signs of the same social decay happening in america.

Anyway not to harp on about that, but yeah, if Canadians want to make something that big brother government doesn't want them to do, just make things independently and obfuscate any real similarities with a studio, if you take government money of course they're going to meddle in your affairs.

Also, if you want non homogenous art, you either have to fund it yourself, or make it yourself. There's a myriad of places to do this and therrs a lot of influence to take from outside of just animation to take from artistically.

>>90911105
Canada's generous tax grants tactically manipulating animation studios from hiring any foreign talent.

With section C-16, it's a gateway to more promotion of political correctness being enforced on the studios.

>>90911174
You know why America will never go full shithole?
Literally everybody and their mother has guns
An armed society is a polite society.

>>90911174
Your project sounds like a boring piece of propaganda.

>>90911182
> being enforced

Stop being an autist, no one is forcing them. They want money, they have to follow the rules of the people who give it to them.

>>90911174
> and I'm absolutely seeing the signs of the same social decay happening in america.

People have been saying this since the goddamn end of WWII and yet it hasn't happened.

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>>90911174
With the universities and businesses doing mandatory political correctness classes in Canada, it wouldn't be a stretch for studios to do so as well.

And the punitive costs at the hands of the Human right's court, guaranteeing you to lose if you even so disagree from the PC opinion. It's happened a few times already.

>>90911182
Maybe I should have been clearer: explain what actually happens, do not just reiterate buzzwords.

>>90910992
Interesting. Source?

>>90911194
Sorry i killed your kid at that school.No i mean it i'm sorry

>>90910718
Culture isn't fixed or heading towards an unalterable end. Things will change again, just as they've changed before.

Frankly we've been through more vocal demands of "think of the children" and that everything be made PC, non-sexual and non-violent in the '80s and '90s than we have now, and back then it actually seemed to be gaining traction among more regular people.

Now most regular people are desensitized and don't give a shit - Think about the criticisms The Simpsons received when it started airing, as tame as it fucking was, and compare it to how few people give a shit about the gore, abuse and rape humor Family Guy now gets away with. Europeans of course, have never given a fuck about America's relatively puritan morality when it comes to sex or sexiness.

Things might not be going in the direction you think they are. The tiny minority of PC keyboard warriors have their voices massively over amplified simply due to the nature of the internet and its quest for clickbait.

Wtf is this and how will it effect cartoons as long as they dont drop the fucking n bomb?

>>90911237
>we had a kid go full Murrican in a school in my country recently
>he had a shotgun, grenades, the works
>he lightly injured 4 people
Gotta to give it to the fatsos, at least they're good at it.

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>>90911243
Why would you give me such hope, anon?

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>>90911210
Eh, maybe. It's subtextual, and I haven't given any of the other details about the actual concept of it. I'm confident that it's coming out good. And hey, it's coming out period, that's more than can be said for those countless projects of people bemoaning the animation industry but never nutting up and putting down their time and money into it.

>>90911194
That's reasonable, my country banned guns and now everyone gets shot and their organs get robbed all the time.

However, consider this: the liberal cities, for the most part, aren't aed, just the police. Those cities also have high crime rates. If the cops quit in texas, people could defend themselves. But in the cities? It could turn into a massacre, especially since the macho culture inherent in crime is in opposition to liberal cultural ideologue.

So what you have is a situation where the biggest consumers of natural produce get butchered. No big whoop, right? But they're also the biggest technological centers, so buck back home on his farm suddenly gets incomunicated. And from there it's a very dangerous path that leads to food trucks not getting delivered, and then people starve.

It's a complete hypothetical and likely won't happen, but it's fun to imagine different scenarios like this.

>those strategically placed white spots making her appear thinner
REEEEEEE DECEPTIVE ROASTIE GET OUT

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>>90911215
>it hasn't happened
You sure about that?

>>90911295
No, despite what extremists from both sides like to say, america is still a mostly functional society.

>>90910718
>posting a picture more interesting than the topic at hand

>>90910718
Soo, who's the chick?

>>90911222
He can't, buzzwords about 'teh PC brigade' are his whole argument.

Basically the rule says that in order to get a government grant you have to satisfy non-discrimination standards. You know, not promoting hate propaganda, showing that you give women and LGBT ppl a fair chance rather than just hiring straight white guys because that's who the boss identifies with.

And it's not forcing anyone to do anything, its just that if you want gov money to assist your projects, you have to play by their rules.

>>90911273
>I haven't given any of the other details about the actual concept of it.
It's not exactly hard to infer: America turned to shit because liberals are pussies. How fucking interesting.

But yeah, good on you for getting something out.

>>90910974
They're just mad that you shook them out of their shitty ivory towers. Expect to see more shitbirds like this in the near future, and ruin their day accordingly.

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I really hope Japan doesn't get infected by this bull

>>90910992
>>90911230
This is her Twitch: sincerelylyn

>>90911337
Thanks anon. I'll check her out sometime. CUTE

>>90911310
Isn't that normal standards of business in the US though? Why would it suddenly lead to only safe animation in Canada?

>>90911310
If there are quotas, they are going to be enforced. And regardless of whether you think the rules are a good thing, they do put limitations on creative control.

What do you mean "if they want money" are you telling me Canada pays taxes for it's tv programs like Britain but has private companies on the side?

>>90910718
Don't be a faggot, OP.

Who is this fluid druid?

>>90911259
>grenades
Where the fuck did he get a hold of grenades? I'm pretty sure it's almost impossible to acquire fragmentation grenades in the US.

>>90911310
System founded on bribery. Leftist moral standards of the highest order. You share our fucked up policies - you get money. You don't? You get hit with some bogus discrimination law.

>>90911306
>mostly functional

That's pretty fuckin' generous, anon.

>>90911351
>What do you mean "if they want money" are you telling me Canada pays taxes for it's tv programs like Britain but has private companies on the side?
You mean like the UK and 99% of countries that have tax-funded TV? What you thought only the governement was allowed to broadcast in those countries?

>>90911364
> generous

Please tell me how america is a failed state like Haiti or something, then.

>>90911355
From his grandpa's collection iirc.
Also not in the US, in France.

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>>90911312
Nah, it's not close to that. It's about a guy on the job. The world is full of bizarre mutants and a ruined apocalyptic landscape, but everyone goes on like nothing is happening, almost like they're in denial about the whole thing. Essentially it's like a looney tunes short directed by aphex twin and with a lot of horror elements like body horror and urban decay. It's completely apolitical and has more to do with infrastructure issues like the California water wars, construction taxes, the job economy, (the protag uses something similar to uber), and social regression in terms of cognitive dissonance between nature and society.

Just cause I didnt want to bore you with the details to not be a dick so we could still tall about animation stuff doesn't mean you gotta be a little rascal about it.

>>90911374
>What you thought only the governement was allowed to broadcast in those countries?

Where'd you get that?

>>90911358
State-funded art has almost always been quite directive, regardless of the governements in place.

>>90911387
>if it's not South Africa levels of terrible, it must be a first world country

>>90911391
>are you telling me Canada pays taxes for it's tv programs like Britain but has private companies on the side

What the fuck did you mean then?

>>90911389
Ah, that makes sense. What sort of shotgun did he have?

>>90911390
>It's completely apolitical
It really isn't. I think you mean non-partisan.
>Just cause I didnt want to bore you with the details to not be a dick so we could still tall about animation stuff doesn't mean you gotta be a little rascal about it.
It seemed you had no problem boring us with your actual off-topic theories, which believe it or not, imply a certain bias.

>>90911402
No, but it's better than say, Somalia, and it IS in the mostly fuctional category.

>>90911174
>>90911273
Shit like this has zero chance of actually happening.

You people are just fearmongers.

>>90911417
Dunno, assumedly something not very efficient at killing people.

>>90911439
B-but muh dystopian fiction where only real men and women would survive!

>>90911400
Of course, but state-funding and politics of a carrot and a stick are two different things. Here you clearly either get the carrot or a stick. Either in the form of legal action or ire from NGOs (which are still government funded, at least in part, if they share the "party line").

>>90911422
I don't even mind the whole snowflake gender thing but the term "sex assigned at birth" annoys me to no end.
It's not assigned, and it's before birth.
There are some exceptions like physical hermaphrodites who the parents decide to treat as female or male, but really that's it.

>>90911435
Hey, maybe that's more accurate.
In any case the theory stuff was in response to some guy in the thread. I don't see how the other stuff about going indie and not directly calling yourself a studio to avoid government mandates isn't related to OP's topic.

>>90911482
> keep talking about the stick
> can't give details or post sources
> but it totally happened

Suuuure.

>>90911086
>you don't live in a free country.
That's the core issue: people in the West are getting tired of freedom

>>90911471
Muh dystopian future where SJWs make heterosexual white people a hunted and oppressed minority!

>>90911482
Source of an animation company that got "the stick". Because here I'm really only seeing the carrot, and that's what state-funding is.

>>90910718
Cartoons are no more PC today than they were in the 80's and 90's. The only thing that's changed is now we have millennial right-wingers that constantly bitch about PC culture when cartoons arguably have fucking more free speech today than they did in the 80's and 90's.

It's like people bitching that we could never have blazing saddles made today because it used the n-word 14 times when we had fucking boondocks and Django not too long ago. Nevermind that blazing saddles got protested when it came out and it only flew based on context and the way the characters related to each other.

>>90911504
>>90911505
I'm not OP and I'm speaking in broader terms. But still applying this train of though to what Canada does it's easy to point out what happened to Jordan Peterson as an example.

>>90911491
>and it's before birth.

Not to be nitpicky, but there's still a margin of error for certain tests. It's overall lower than 5%, but there's a very small chance that you end up with something different than you were told.

>>90911215
>They want money, they have to follow the rules of the people who give it to them.
Just like with loan sharks.

>>90911506

You joke, but it's not a bad idea for something like Injustice/Justice Lords, but with the current way Marvel heroes are written atm. Although it's less "dystopia" and more "shit the populace puts up with in exchange for safety but it's getting to them".

>>90911533
>Jordan Peterson
>Jordan B. Peterson (born 1962) is a Canadian clinical psychologist, tenured professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. His research interests include self-deception, mythology, religion, narrative, neuroscience, personality, deception, creativity, intelligence, and motivation.
Where are his animation credentials?

>>90911547
When was the last time you were forced to get a loan from a loan shark?

>>90911552
>You joke, but it's not a bad idea for something like Injustice/Justice Lords,
What did he mean by this?

>>90911535
That's an error on the part of the machinery and/or the doctor. It doesn't mean you're not male or female still in the womb.

>>90911535
Yes, there's a margin of error for *detecting* the sex right before birth, but the sex is already determined biologically before birth (again in 99% of cases).

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>>90911439
But it did happen. It does happen. All over the world, all the time, countries can go to shit in the blink of an eye.

Have you seen what's happening in romania? Full on communist revolution and people getting gunned down in the streets while criminals put in for political crimes get broken free. In fucking korea? The ceo of Samsung got fucking arrested and no one says a peep. Brazil? Cops just up and quit like in that hypothetical scenario I put up and now people are dying due to gang violence. It's not a hypothetical in the world, it actually is happening right now.

I'm from fucking venezuela, man, I've seen how it goes, you think your country and infrastructure is safe, you think you could never get to a bad spot and thst things will keep chugging like always, so you turn a blind eye to growing crime and the government becoming more predatory and food becoming more scarce and things becoming more expensive

And then you wake up and realize things have gotten so bad people are kidnapping kids off the street to eat them.

That's why I want to make that animated thing, man, because I've seen it happen, and americans are so full of hubris and such utter cognitive dissonance when it comes to the reality of cultures and societies dying and rebirthing, of the reality that nature is cruel and that simple small things can amount to apocalyptic damage before you know it. Don't fucking bury your nose in the dirt like an ostrich. At the very least be aware of the world around you.

It's not fear mongering, it's reality.

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We see this with comedy stand ups and skits who supposedly go "Too Far" now a days.

>>90911520

So why are you pretending the left wing doesn't censor at all and all the censors are evil right wingers?

Or are you seriously trying to pretend SJWs don't exist?

>>90911555
Where are your reading comprehension credentials? I said I'm not OP and that I'm talking in broader terms about such policies.

>>90911574
That has utterly no chance of ever happening in America and if it did, it would be anti-SJWs and alt-righters gunning down minorities of all types.

You are utterly deluded.

>>90911577
We see what?
South Park still being on the air?

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>>90911574
You see it in the Philippines as well, upon the "good intentions" of ridding the streets of drugs, thousands are being gunned down, and quickly from a very western friendly country, changed into a more socialist government.

>>90911447
Well no wonder grandpa had that shotgun.
Whoever he killed wasn't very good at picking out a descent killing gun.

>>90911595

You're really going down the route of "only alt-right types are evil and anyone who has a problem with left wing ideas are hitler?" You're really going to pretend that only ONE side can be violent and evil while the other side is pure and innocent, despite history saying that ANYONE can be evil in the right circumstances?

>>90911243
The key difference is that those complaints in the 80s and 90s came from small, localized groups with too much power for anybody's good; that wasn't a culture, that was soccer moms and fundies clustered together.

Nowadays, however, it IS a culture. It's a doctrine far more widespread over the hemisphere that flows into and OUT OF the common citizenry. It's like when the people from Marvel cheered at Norman Osborn becoming the head of SHIELD.

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>>90911574
>In fucking korea? The ceo of Samsung got fucking arrested and no one says a peep.
Pretty sure there have been huge anti-governement protests for months.

For what it's worth every time I've talked to a Romanian outside of 4chan, they were more in the "I miss communism" camp.

>US
>growing crime
Yeah, really not.

>>90911617
In that case, it wasn't MUH SJWS who ran that country into the ground. In fact, it was just the opposite, people on the right end of the political spectrum.

>>90911588
Why can't you fucking stay on the board topic, asshole?
This thread is about how governement could negatively influence animation, not how it can negatively impact literally anything.
If you have nothing to say about animation, then keep the rest to yourself.

>>90910718
Fuck off, faggot. Cartoons are way less pc than they were in the past.

>>90911574
>it's a "Venezuelan lived through a communist revolution and has PTSD about it episode"

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>>90911595
Well if you believe that, keep telling yourself that, man, maybe I'm just a crazy bum speaking out his asshole. Keep telling yourself everything is fine, maybe it is. I'm telling you from personal experience, from example, that it's really really easy for a, any country, poor or rich, to fly too close to the sun and fall into ruin. I don't think it's a bad thing to just remind people of that.

But anyway this is all offtopic so enough with the HAPPENINGS

>>90911582
>So why are you pretending the left wing doesn't censor at all and all the censors are evil right wingers?
In no way does his post imply that.

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>>90911582
>So why are you pretending the left wing doesn't censor at all and all the censors are evil right wingers?

>Or are you seriously trying to pretend SJWs don't exist?

Where the fuck did I say any of that? I said that cartoons today are no more PC than they were in the 80's and 90's.

The only thing that I said about rightwingers is that they are the ones bitching about things being more PC today when they fucking aren't more PC and there's objectively less censorship.

Is /co/ really that deluded into thinking that left wing values can NEVER turn violent and only right wing values are evil and must be purged?

Every political ideology can get out of hand if you LET IT.

>>90911631
When has there ever been an instance of SJWs committing violent crime? SJWism, annoying movement that it is, is a pretty peaceful movement. At worst, you have tumblrites condescendingly explaining concepts like 'two-spirit' or whatever in a Youtube video or harassing someone they disagree with on a college campus.

Anti-SJWs, alt-righters, and racists are far worse. It doesn't even REMOTELY make sense for people like you to act like SJWs are this bad when you have every reason to think those on the opposing side are far worse.

>>90911676
the left in America are too busy sucking up their own assholes right now to do jack shit

>>90911273
Read Orwell's essays, and Hobbes, and Voltaire, and Cicero. They should give you a basis.

>>90911676
>Is /co/ really that deluded into thinking that left wing values can NEVER turn violent and only right wing values are evil and must be purged?
No, literally only one guy said that. But I guess /co/mblr yadda yadda.

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Should the FCC be considered a fascist government arm then? By that logic, they regulate and censor offensive materials as well after all.

>>90911688
Depends if you consider antifas SJWs, really.

This whole thread need to fuck off back to /tv/. Is shitposting one board to death not enough for you miserable fucks?

>>90911688

Oh yes, the alt right is sooo violent, with their pranks to steal Shia Lebouf's "He will not divide us" flag for shits and giggles. Those guys are about as violent as Tumblrinas.

Besides, who's talking about Tumblrinas. Unless you want to pretend that ANTIFA is just and pure and not the left wing equivalent of skinheads.

>>90911194
>An armed society is a polite society

those Afghani Goat fuckers are rather polite

>>90911588
Awww, look at the little retard go. Because, you microcephalic twat, if the government acts in the field of academia and/or culture in that manner it can easily treat animation studios the same way.

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>>90911731
>1998
>no beefcake
She was just watching the wrong shows.

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>>90911754
>meanwhile, right wing death squads with shields and clubs are beating trannies to death

>>90911725

Well, I can't just say it's "one guy" either. Then I'd be "marginalizing" those views. Who knows. It COULD be multiple people thinking the same way.

You're right that it's hyperbole to say that all of /co/ is agreeing with the sentiment.

>>90911737
Antifas are not SJW's

>>90911737
>>90911754
Antifas aren't necessarily SJWs. Politically left-leaning maybe but they're a different beast entirely than SJWs.

>>90911776
>violence against trannies never happens
ok

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>>90911766
>muh slippery slope
>I swear I don't have any examples of bad things happening that are also on topic, but it COULD happen, and it's all that matters

>>90911776

Didn't they attacked him first? And those "trannies" being ANTIFA types to boot.

>>90911737
I would, they're retarded enough. I'm not even a natsoc fag or whatever, just think it's pointless to actively "oppose" an obviously bad idea just because it's popular within the closet homosexual community.

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WE MUST SEIZE THE MEANS OF ANIMATION PRODUCTION

>>90911789

Browsing through the twitters sphere of the transexual crowd, they consider disagreement "violence" so maybe you're right.

Then again, if you were to read the transexual crowd on Twitter, there's a lot of "boy crying wolf." Read too long and you'll be jaded towards their "suffering".

>>90911817
moon over june is so salty and perverted looking, reminds me of John K

>>90911804
Same rules apply. And it's better to believe in that dreaded slippery slope than boast about your hindsight being 20/20 after shit hits the fan.

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>>90911896
Yeah, you keep smashing that gong buddy.

>>90911875
idgi, why is it assumed all women want to look like saggy tit monkeys like something that crawled out of the woods just because "it doesn't impress men"

I don't want to see that shit either.

>>90910718
Jordan Peterson, is that you?

>>90911959
Stevonnie also consists of a boy and a girl, while all the other fused gems are fusions of females so they're all referred to as she. just saying

>>90911987
Doesn't Smoky Quartz go by she?

>>90911959
I don't even mind calling someone they/them, you can't viably call anyone out on misgendering someone if you use them while simultaneously not having to call them by any gender at all.

It's a perfect weapon, use it.

>>90912014
I dunno, dropped SU before that happened. if so, disregard what I said

>>90912023
Yeah that's true, but I refuse to do so anyway.

>>90912052
I have absolutely no issue with the gender bullshit in Steven Universe because it's fiction and it makes sense in the context of this fictional universe. Also it's literally magic.

>>90912023
What are you even talking about. That's just giving in to their delusions. Misgendering isn't a real thing.

>remove censorship
>insert degeneracy
>add censorship back but enforce degeneracy as normal and PC

Protip, art comes from adversity.

>>90912092
It's neither feeding or rejecting their delusions. It's just not participating in the idea that gender is important at all, which it's not.

>>90911565
Never. Precisely because loan sharks aren't the government.

>>90912023
Yes, or you could just don't care because the people caring about this thing are just a tiny vocal minority on internet and the chance you encounter one in real life is pretty low.

>>90911174
Good luck bro! Fight the good fight!

>>90911632
>Nowadays, however, it IS a culture. It's a doctrine far more widespread over the hemisphere that flows into and OUT OF the common citizenry.
That's absolute nonsense. You'd have to do nothing but browse 4chan and tumblr to genuinely believe that. Talk to some normal people. They don't give a shit.

>>90912121
Which is why I've never been confronted with this issue once yet, captain obvious.

>>90910718
What Canadian mandates are you talking about?
The one where the majority of their animation has to be made in Canada?

What does political correctness have to do with animation? Popular things are similar because they try to appeal to the same wide audience, not because they're PC.

>>90912113
Of course it's important. Saying it's not important is almost the same as saying genders are the same. Which they aren't. Neither biologically or socially (and one ties into the other).

>>90911574
>Comparing 3rd word instability and riots to a bunch of angry PC tumblr posts
Kek

>>90912145
It's not important.

>>90912087
Kids watch it and soak that shit in, anon.

>>90912109

This also proves that political correctness wasn't always a left wing concept. It used to be right wing back in the day. It was bullshit then, and it's still bullshit now.

>>90912145
There is no such thing as gender, the word is sex.

>>90912179
>>90912145
See
https://aeon.co/essays/the-idea-that-gender-is-a-spectrum-is-a-new-gender-prison

>>90912177
Enforcing tried and true cultural standards to steer society to greatness isn't bullshit.

Shame is a very important feeling, anon.

If there are no social laws, we become animals, slaves to our base instincts. Rome is burning.

>>90912158
>every society in history has been built on the societal differences between the genders based on the sexual dymorphism of the human species
>not important

>>90912200
None of that is real, you are male or female, and if you believe otherwise you are suffering from a psychosexual disorder.

>>90912219
>hurr everything we do is bcuz of sex XD

kuck

>>90912230
Read the article before you slap your ears like a retard.

>>90912231
Not an argument.

>>90912248
Good talk.

>>90912230
Maybe it's because of people like you that men are trying to drop out of their "assigned" maleness to become women instead of just being normal fags.

>>90912245
Saying "you are both stupid there is nothing there tear down boxes arn't a a radical centrist" isn't logical either.

Men are men and women are women, feminism was created by the economic elite to double the workforce.

>>90912271
If you are gay you have a psychosexual disorder too.

>>90912278
This isn't about feminism genius. And the position that gender is unimportant is not a "centrist" position, it's antagonistic.

>>90912159
Good! Maybe they won't get so worked up about stupid gender bullshit in the future.

>>90912291
Well, we can't all be Paul Bunyan like you anon.

>>90912159
That's why every kid who has watched Hokuto no Ken is out there trying to make people's heads explode.
You're using the same dumb argument as people who want to ban violent games and metal.

>>90912300
"I literally don't care about any of this bullshit, my brain/body wants to fuck who my brain/body wants to fuck and there's no point getting worked up about it"

What do you think about that hot opinion, mister

I expect the Libs to lose out in the next election considering how hard their popularity dropped.

>>90911329
Nips too homogeneous to care.

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>>90910718

I strongly dislike the American mandates concerning it's animation industry, and now with alt-right culture influencing it's legislation; one million moms and the Trump administration etc. I feel that all western animation will eventually homogenize into a idea safe media, restricting expression, not for the sake of equity but at behest of legal enforcement.

>>90911574
>Full on communist revolution
>in Romania

They're not going back to that any time soon.

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>>90910974

Because you're essentially a hypocritical sociopath who pays to mind to the actual sources of censorship

>>90912313

Not him, but I'm more in favour of "tearing down gender roles" as opposed to "tearing down gender" altogether. Because the former is malleable and can change through culture while the latter is more objective. Unless women start growing dicks and men start growing boobs, tearing down gender isn't happening anytime soon.

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>>90912340
That's what the kids are calling "demisexual"

It checks out I guess.

>>90911987
Gem don't have gender at all, they're fucking rocks. All the ones seen thus far appear female to humans, but none of them actually reproduce sexually (Including steven's mother) so they're entirely asexual in the technical sense and by extension without gender.

>>90911505

Indeed, hence why they're turning to fascists

>>90912300
1. Gender isn't real, it's sex
2. The two sexes have predetermined tendancies and natural roles. Culture has formed around these roles, not the other way around.
3. Ignoring these roles or people actively attempting to destroy these roles for economic gain is causing a lot of TANGIBLE real life pain. Divorce rates, STDs, single parents popping out future inmates, lowest female happiness rating in decades, and genital mutilation of children.

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>>90912354
>Thumbnail looked like a fly speaking
>It's actually a guy getting fucked in the ass

>>90912357
I don't see much of a difference, but either way it would still be a minority of people struggling with it.

>>90912300
>This isn't about feminism genius
Feminism has come to include all this tangential stuff on account of the "natural allies" argument. That's why liberals consider middle-class white women to be minorities in the same vein as blacks and homosexuals.

>>90912370
>and genital mutilation of children

You mean boys, because it happens to both boys and girls, so it doesn't have much to do with gender as it does Judaism.

>>90912343
That is a valid opinion, anon.

-OP

>>90912357
That's a reasonable opinion. I hope it leads to more tomboys.
>>90912363
That sounds stupid and I'll just stick with "meh", if that's not an issue. Just seems like too much work to really pin down the vocab on all this nonsense.

>>90912370

- Yes it is. It has been so since english was invented

- Explain why culture emphasises things like suicide and repression, both breeded out in nature

- Nice meme. Any statistics not made by creationists?

>>90911595
>That has utterly no chance of ever happening in America and if it did, it would be anti-SJWs and alt-righters gunning down minorities of all types.

Trump getting elected is basically step 1 in that scenario you describe.

>>90912370
>Ignoring these roles...
and these roles are?

>>90912333
false equivalence.

>>90912384
Who actually gives a fuck about politically active "feminists" and chicks on talk shows? I'm fortunate enough to not know any personally.

>>90912404
>both arguments are that kids will behave accordingly to what they see on TV being protrayed as positive
Yeah, nah.

>>90911574
>In fucking korea? The ceo of Samsung got fucking arrested and no one says a peep.

Korea had a shamanistic witch cult running the country. No one says a peep because everyone is too shocked to say anything.

Not kidding, they had a Rasputin equivalent pulling the strings of their president.

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>>90912366
I though gems are feminine strictly out of choice and express it through their appearance, just brings the question, why don't they express themselves in a more masculine form?

except for nacho nose, I still fucking hate their designs.

>>90912393
>Just seems like too much work to really pin down the vocab on all this nonsense.

It's pedantic as fuck. I'm starting to hate anyone who gives a shit about anything regarding gender, gender "roles" and having to respect someone based on something completely out of their control either way.

>>90912376

Gender roles basically mean what other people expect you to be based on your sex. Gender itself is based on what your sex your body says you are.

Frankly, rebelling against other people is much easier than rebelling against your own body.

>>90912442
Homeworld has limited resources, so they seem have become more militarized in the more recent centuries in order to colonize new planets. The Amethysts from the zoo are pretty dudebro-ish and some of the Rubies.

They pretty much act according to what their assigned purpose is. Which is completely societal and has nothing to do with gender.

>>90912447
>what your sex your body says you are.

But that's my reproductive parts, not my gender? My brain doesn't have testicles.

>>90911817
The most horrible thing about that comic is that the authors actually look like that IRL.

>>90912442
At least one of them occasionally takes on a masculine form in order to better express herself. Amethyst as the Purple Puma.

>>90912443
Yeah, I'd feel the same way but hate is such a strong word, you know? It's just like, be who you are, don't give a fuck about what anybody thinks of you. As long as you feed yourself and aren't an active drain on the resources of society I don't really care.

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>>90912476
Hm, sounds convenient.

However I'd still like to see male appearence representated. Then watch all of the outrage it brings about.

>>90912399
>Trump getting elected is basically step 1 in that scenario you describe.
That's the funny thing about it all. Anti-SJWs and alt-righters love to describe a doomsday scenario in which straight white people are hunted down and discriminated against while being unaware that we're actually closer to the exact opposite yet still doing everything they can to make that possibility a reality.

>>90912440
>No one says a peep
Stop this meme
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%932017_South_Korean_protests

>>90912357
>I'm more in favour of "tearing down gender roles"

But gender roles are biologically assigned. You want to tear off the tits of women now?

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>>90912491
>hate is such a strong word, you know?

No, I hate them and hope they're never happy.

>>90912510
I just want to be punched by a woman, is that too much to ask? Physicality shouldn't be a strictly masculine trait.

>>90912508
You act as if Trump has the power to do that much damage. If he did, he would have overturned the gay marriage ruling.

>>90912530
You care like, way too much. I can't stop you, so I guess you should continue being you, ya know? As long as it tickles your dopamine receptors, I guess.

>>90912503
>However I'd still like to see male appearence representated

I too really want to see a male Gem.

Like if Steven fuses with a male human. There's no way it could come out female like Stevonnie.

>>90912533
Isn't Trump a supporter of LGB rights? At least, I thought he wasn't actively opposed. Not enough money in it for him to care, I don't think.

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>>90912540
You care that I care too much. Calm down.

>>90912533

And to add to that, overturning gay marriage is something he's not interested in the least.

>>90910992
Where's the sauce friendo?

>>90912552
>>90912533


I see you've been sleeping under a rock. Either that or you're really desperate to deny reality

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>>90912440
>>90912509
>worst korea

worst shithole than america and cancucks

>>90912533
Didn't stop Trump supporters from feeling empowered after his election and start victimizing racial, religious, and sexual minorities. This thing doesn't have to have Trump in power, just enough paranoid, stupid people who fear being victimized themselves.

Electing in Trump was the biggest outcome of that.

>>90910718
>I feel that all western animation will eventually homogenize into a idea safe media, restricting expression, not for the sake of equity but at behest of legal enforcement.
> everyone will follow Brave Canada because we are the English-speaking world's conscience

No, you're a generation of deluded shamelords who have only partially infiltrated the US with your A FUCKING WHITE CIS MALE malarkey but haven't fully comprehended that we didn't like it when the British told us how to think either.

Tell your friends north of the border to tread lightly if they don't want us to culturally enrich them. You degraded your own culture through legislation because you can't even elect your own representatives.

We share a border, a language and the name for our currency unit. It's time your citizens understood that doesn't mean you have wholesale judgment rights over us and told your most vocal minority to shut the fuck up because they are not going to improve future relations between our nations.

t. descendant of Ottawans

>>90912487
I thought it was a guy who was salty about his lesbian sister bringing all kinds of strange strange around the house.

>>90912547
Stevonnie is fairly intersex looking. They've got the hips but they're flat up top with fairly broad shoulders, with a serious case of manchin. Besides, Amethyst already took on a male form with the Purple Puma.
>>90912574
Source me something that isn't leftist reactionary clickbait bullshit

>>90911273
liberal cities outside of Detroit don't have that high of crime rates.

Like NYC as a collective had 624 violent crimes in 2014 out of a city of 7 million, that's .01% of the population being victimized. per year.

crime rates are at all time lows

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I feel Canada will be the next Sweden.

>>90911439
There's something about "fiction" you seem to have a problem with.

Let me be the first to assure you, in the near future there won't be a massive robot army contolled by a shapeshifting manifestation of evil.

>>90912508
>a doomsday scenario in which straight white people are hunted down and discriminated against

We reached that point when companies started hiring trans, blacks, gays, women, indians in order to fill their diversity quota, and not because they do their job better in a given field.

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>>90912602
>Stevonnie is fairly intersex looking.

where you live, thailand?

>>90912632
You want to see a girl, so you see a girl. It's a cartoon.

>>90910718
If I lived in CANADA I would rather be more concerned that one day while walking around the city I COULD GET KILLED AND EATEN ALIVE BY SOME NUTJOB than be concerned about shitty cartoons.

Oh, did you know that cannibalism is legal in canada? I hope you know that, for your safety.

>>90912609
Fuck no they've still got muh gunz. They'll be more like the UK but with chinese and mexicans.

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>>90912609
>tfw just got a job in Canada
Ah shit.

Also while I'm on this rant, I find it convenient that CanLit authors with dystopian views of the future trend towards blaming us for the fall (Handmaiden's Tale, Robert Sawyer's Neanderthal trilogy) as though Canada were somehow too morally pure to be corrupt. For fucks sake you're PROUD of having no federal reserve system as though this proved your banking system was filled with better people. Has it dawned on anyone there that this is why other nations use our currency and not yours?

/co/ is dead. Pack it up. Good job all around guys.

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>People think op is just bitching about pocket feminism
>and not the actual real life organization called the human rights council that overrules the law and actually requires for lawyers to go through "anti discrimination testing" which amounts to clockwork orange tier brainwashing that actually just ends up making people more racist, and is ostensibly making Canadian universities operate under completely different laws than the rest of canada, and pretty Orwellian laws too

He's not bitching about tumblr you I'll informed dweebs, it's about shit thst actually has started to get enforced in real life.

It's illegal to not use someone's preferred pronouns in canada, and yes, they can change it mid way through and sue you.

It's illegal to criticise Muslims and, don't quote me, but apparently the government is beginning to hound Sikhs because their religion involves murals depicting muslims murdering their gurus.

>but what does this have to do with cartoons?

Universities are where animators predominantly come from, if these kinds of laws get traction it just means state funding and the animation community there is going to get quagmired in this insanity

>>90912655
Toronto or Vancouver I'm guessing?

>>90912622
He was clearly talking about making essentially a propaganda piece about what """COULD""" happen in a theoretical future he thought was possible. "Fiction" can also be a means to explore reality, including plausible futures. With that in mind, he was fucking delusional.

>>90912630
>We reached that point when companies started hiring trans, blacks, gays, women, indians in order to fill their diversity quota, and not because they do their job better in a given field.
Okay? That's nowhere near a doomsday scenario in which whitey is discriminated against, just because some companies want to level the playing field.

I mean, people up in arms about this sort of thing just shows that these same people tend to jump the gun and cry victim over much less than what minorities are traditionally used to. It just makes you sorts look whiney as fuck.

>>90911776
Where is your sauce?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/jun/02/donald-trump-san-jose-rally-protesters-clash-supporters

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02/28/university-anti-fascist-group-justifies-violence-and-vandalism-against-peers/

http://ktla.com/2016/04/26/5-pepper-sprayed-as-trump-supporters-critics-face-off-outside-anaheim-city-hall/

Wow the antifa are such heroes pepper-spraying little girls!

>>90912667
time to stomp some slimes while you still can, canucks

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>>90912508
Isn't that scenario happening in a bunch of South African countries, where the predominantly black population is legislating to literally steal land from the white minority population?

>>90912670
Vancouver, yeah. They have convenient tax laws, I think, so they're hiring by the dozen.

>>90912700
South Africa isn't America, you fucking moron. Jesus christ. What they're going through isn't necessarily 100% analogous to what we're going through.

You SERIOUSLY think if blacks were given most of the power in the U.S., that we'd just steal land away from you people?

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>>90912731
>You SERIOUSLY think if blacks were given most of the power in the U.S., that we'd just steal land away from you people?

Wouldn't it be incredibly stupid not to?

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>>90912667
Exactly, fucking businesses are enacting those anti-racism and gender pronoun seminars, just to be on the safe side, this re-education and the consequences of not following it is terrible to everyone.

>>90912680
Racial and Gender quotas are racist and sexist on itself. What is this even?

>>90912667
I'm sure worried that the horse show won't be able to make fun of muslims anymore. Oh wait.

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>>90912731
Well...

>>90912404
No it's not. Exploding someone's head trough pressure points and fusing with someone trough dance are equally impossible.

>>90912680
So what? Again, it's fiction. It could happen, but it also could NOT happen. He's not making that a part of the narrative as far as you know. What kind of boring stories would there be if you only made fiction out of things that CAN happen?

>>90912764
>Wouldn't it be incredibly stupid not to?
No, it would be the moral, decent, and not-corrupt thing to do.

>>90912776
>Racial and Gender quotas are racist and sexist on itself. What is this even?
But they're nowhere near on the road to outright discrimination against white people.

>>90912781
You'd have to be pretty stupid to think that Obama did anything anywhere near that.

>>90912781
Black jimmy carter is a bit different from full on race war. Didn't seem like he was taking sides, just played it safe.

>>90911329
>I really hope Japan doesn't get infected by this bull

It's a double edged sword. Here in the US, you pitch a show to a network and they agree to fund it until ratings decline or the series formally ends. The animation studio incurs no risk beyond not making something that would lead to cancellation.

In Japan, you rent timeslots on networks which do not subsidize production. That means your anime studio has to come in with investment capital and the types who invest in anime are like Hollywood suits who only want repetition of the successful. It's also why optical disc media is exorbitantly expensive; it's literally how they make back their investment. It's possible the networks kick back some of their advertising revenue but they can't survive off that.

Also, while you're extolling the virtue of unfettered Japan, consider that we could have an episode that mentioned Hiroshima but they will never air a show mentioning Nanking.

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The day of the rake can't come soon enough.

>>90912808
>No, it would be the moral, decent, and not-corrupt thing to do.

This has nothing to do with morality, or else racist blacks in the US wouldn't treat white people like dog shit in every slum in the country just to get away with it. Not all of them have such charmed lives and don't hold grudges.

>>90912808
>But they're nowhere near on the road to outright discrimination against white people.

No, it's discriminating against them!

>>90912808
They *are* discrimination, technically.
Discrimination isn't a bad word, it means treating things (in this case people) differently. In French "affirmative action" is called "discrimination positive".

>>90912830
>or else racist blacks in the US wouldn't treat white people like dog shit in every slum in the country just to get away with it.

>literal white person victim complex

Suuuure, anon. Niggers are out to get you.

>>90912645
I assume that assault and murder is NOT legal in Canada, and being mugged and eaten would fall under at least one of those headers. Surely.

>>90912847
>Hasn't seen BLM "protests"

>>90912667
It's always Muslims. You'd think Hollywood and big banks are under Muslim control instead of the Jews' from seeing how much Western governments bend themselves over just to appease such a small, small minority.

It feels like a Red Alert 2 scenario sometimes. Does ISIS happen to have psychic beacons?

>>90912354
>who pays to mind to the actual sources of censorship
Fun fact: the reason porn mags at your local shop don't have penetration in them isn't because of a particular law, it's because magazine distribution in the US is largely run by organized crime and they don't want the feds having an excuse to investigate them

t. former newsstand bookstore manager

>>90912847
You've got to be really fucking deluded to assume black people on average are going to all be decent, considerate people, I know some black people that aren't full of shit and will admit everything I've said because guess what, they're racist toward one another too. Wake the fuck up.

>>90912846
Fine but let's not pretend like whitey is being treated as a second class citizen. You're not, you never were, and you're never going to be.

>>90912864
You mean the actual protests?

>>90912087
>I have absolutely no issue with the gender bullshit in Steven Universe because it's fiction and it makes sense in the context of this fictional universe
I've seen transsexuals use Dr. Who regeneration to 'explain' to their nerdy friends what's going on with them. Sadly because the magical fictional thing is cool, people often want to believe that it has a RL component.

>>90912869
...How the fuck is 23% of global population miniscule?

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>>90912808
>be hispanic
>notice I actually get a lot of opportunities at big companies, they pay more for spanish speakers even when it isn't entirely relevant to the job, have noticed their job listing usually have minority hiring as a plus, look into colleges and trade schools and opportunities get a lot more expanded if you're a minority
>meanwhile have known coworkers who do literally the exact same thing I do and live in squalor and don't have any opportunities like I do, and they're all rural white dudes

I mean I'm not about to say white did u nuffin, my first job was in some mom and pop store where I got fired for speaking spanish with another coworker while in the back packing. Still, it's a little hard not to notice that somehiw, whites actually kind of get a shit deal in what's supposed to be their country.

I think it's that it's assumed that if you're white you're well off enough that you don't need those quotas, but as far as I've seen whites are usually about as poor as blacks.

I don't know how much Obama has to do with it, though.

>>90912900
>second class citizen

Regarding citizenship, a non-citizen is probably more likely to get a job in the US than a black OR white citizen. But if there's no imports around, the black person gets the job.

>>90912896
>You've got to be really fucking deluded to assume black people on average are going to all be decent, considerate people
Most black people I meet are in fact, average, decent, considerate people. This 'BLACKS ARE ALL SAVAGES WHO'LL KNOCK YOU THE FUCK OUT FOR NO REASON,' meme is just perpetuated by pale white kids who have no real experience out in the real world and have never interacted with actual black people. Actually, the more I go out and see decent blacks everywhere, the more I'm assured that these /pol/ types are absolutely fucking retarded.

>I know some black people that aren't full of shit and will admit everything I've said because guess what, they're racist toward one another too.
Yes, and those blacks are fucking retarded too.

>Wake the fuck up.
wake up and take the red pill! xD

>>90912177
>This also proves that political correctness wasn't always a left wing concept.
In the early 1980s before that term existed, we said "they're being conservative in their liberalism"

>>90912900
>You're not, you never were, and you're never going to be.
I'm not even murrican, and my country doesn't do any affirmative action.
Context is everything, white people have been treated as second class citizens in some places in the past, and there's really no telling what the future will be. Which is not saying that negative predictions are true, I agree that there's a bit too much of a slippery slope in those arguments usually.

>>90912789
is it wrong that I thought of Dragon Ball instead of SU
>>90912908
I don't understand the connection but okay

>>90912948
>But if there's no imports around, the black person gets the job.
This is fucking bullshit and you know it. Blacks aren't even remotely privileged enough in the U.S. to get the job in the choice between a black person and a white person 100% despite experience. To even remotely suggest as much is racist and asinine.

>>90912440
>No one says a peep
Massive protests, an impeachment and subsequent upholding by the nation's highest court, but as usual you're using your metric of "well I didn't hear anything about it"

good fucking job anon

>>90912949
>Most black people I meet are in fact, average, decent, considerate people.

Okay, do you live in a nice town where they've assimilated properly or a shithole like Detroit or Camden where they fucking stalk you if you're white and are rude for no reason? You seriously can't wrap your head around the idea that you're the exception to the rule?

>>90912973
I think he was talking about the news media not saying anything about it.

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>>90911194
>America
>Polite

You guys cannot go ONE day without a shooting. If anything, your guns make you more aggressive because suddenly you think you're invincible, and you have a way to get back at everyone whose ever harmed you.

Sorry, but your country is retarded.

>>90912966
If both are poor, have gaps, etc. but there is a quota, the black person has the advantage of the quota, the white person does not have the advantage just because they are white. Any given business is clamoring to appear as progressive as possible because that's trendy now.

>>90913011
I wonder where me and the other anons heard about it then.
Really makes you think.

>>90913028
America is fucking huge
We don't actually have all that many shootings.
You're just mad jelly of my sick gunz

>>90913048
They're all in Ohio anyway.

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>>90913048
>Americans going "muh per capita"
Oh that's rich.

>>90913000
>Okay, do you live in a nice town where they've assimilated properly or a shithole like Detroit or Camden where they fucking stalk you if you're white and are rude for no reason?
Poor shitholes like Detroit in general are going to have larger amounts of crime. Acting like it's just an innate quality of blacks is fucking retarded.

>You seriously can't wrap your head around the idea that you're the exception to the rule?
Anon, the vast majority of blacks in this country are decent people and if you can't see as much, you're a fucking retard. There are many, many blacks in this country and most of them aren't thugs. I wish you people would grow out of this edgy teenaged mindset.

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>>90913029

So what you're saying is

That when leftists claim whites are privileged
They're talking about well off old money whites
But when they put in legislature to fight against that
They actually harm low class whites

So what you're telling me is low class people aren't just worse off than high class people, but are galvanized against each other in a way that pits them against eachother racially

Almost like the people who pass these laws have a vested interest in dividing the workforce racially so they can import cheaper labor

It's almost like leftists are racists

>>90912962
>I don't understand the connection but okay
Smart: 1960s Star Trek shows Asians, women and blacks having actual jobs working alongside whites at a time when that was barely happening, opens peoples' heads to possibilities

Stupid: Dr. Who being used as an "explanation" for how transitioning is normal and not a mental problem

>>90913087
>Acting like it's just an innate quality of blacks is fucking retarded.

But nobody said that. You read between the lines and gathered that from your victim complex that you have no reason to have.

>>90913040
Well I heard about it on /v/ of all places, then /int/, then /pol/, who apparently got it from some Korean crossposter.

>>90913101
No, I get all that. I'm just having a hard time understanding the regeneration -> transitioning comparison.

>>90913000
Sonny Jim, have you actually been to Camden? I'm a pasty-ass white boi and I've never been bothered once. It's a shithole, but people won't bother you for no reason.

>>90913094
My (liberal) parents were around to watch what happened when well meaning educated whites thought they'd commandeer the civil rights movement, and understood that there was a subtext of "you poor idiot negroes can't stand up for yourselves" that was doomed to backfire. That's not the same as supporting the movement or attending marches, mind you.

The current generation of internet outrage mavens are middle to upper-class, educated and certain that they will make society better by shaming and threatening. And just so you know, a number of them learned that at SA not university. You can scream "FRANKFURT SCHOOL" until you're blue in the face but the methodology existed before that and will continue to do so without any real connection.

Self-righteousness is the most addictive drug; it leaves no scars, appears on no urine tests, and always makes you feel better.

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So we gonna have our own gamergate or something?

>>90913107
>But nobody said that. You read between the lines and gathered that from your victim complex that you have no reason to have.
Anon, this whole entire site has it out for black people.

"Forgive" me if your post, YET ANOTHER ONE CONDEMNING BLACKS AND CONDONING RACISM AGAINST THEM, made me think you were saying as much. I mean, honest mistake right?

>>90913171
I've been to Camden, I live 20 mins away, my friend is white and goes there every day. When he was homeless and it was their turn to clean up the rec room at the shelter, they literally made him do it because he was white and they knew he would. He told me all the movies they watch are racial white guilt propaganda like remember the titans and shit.

I mean I get this is all par for the course when you're dirt poor, but to act like it's not real is disingenuous.

>>90913214
>Anon, this whole entire site has it out for black people.

Yeah and women and Muslims and everyone else, get in line asshole.

>>90913118
I heard about it on mainstream radio.
Maybe if you listened to the news instead of 4chan you'd have caught it.

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>>90913206
>GamerGate

God, that fucking misused title

>>90912566
>>90911337

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>>90913222
>racial white guilt propaganda like remember the titans
This best be a joke.

>yfw if gamergate had never happened pol would have never learned to get organized and trump wouldn't have gotten elected, and moot would still be around

>>90913206
cancucks had alredy their gamergate

Elbowgate.

Perfect -gate for cancucks.

>>90913194
>SA
Something Awful?

>>90913206
Nah.

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This thread.

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>>90913214
>CONDONING RACISM AGAINST THEM
>by saying some blacks are racist against whites, hispanics, asians and other blacks

Your parents really did a good job raising you to be a self absorbed little shit didn't they

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>>90913281
>mfw

>>90913267
Thanks

>>90913357
Are there that many people who post on their phones?

Jesus, Why?

>>90913433
I do too when I'm at work. I'm a security guard and there are lulls, and I don't have a computer handy.
Also phone games are shit.

>>90913222
>He told me all the movies they watch are racial white guilt propaganda like remember the titans

I'm going to need this one explained to me.

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