What are some essential european, in particular french and italian

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>>90909069

Hugo Pratt
Guido Crepax
Edmond Baudoin
Jeremiah by Hermann Huppen
Thorgal
Les Cités obscures
Florent Ruppert and Jérôme Mulot
The Adventures of Jodelle
Kerascoët
Olivier Schrauwen
David B.
Cabbie
Brecht Evens
Jason
Winshluss
Lewis Trondheim
Jacques Tardi
Etienne Davodeau
Humanoids and L'Association is general

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I picked up pic related while in Rome.

Art is nice but I'm a piece of shit and haven't found the time to attempt to read it

>>90909069
Torpedo

>>90909339
>Hugo Pratt
Damn, it's really suprising how close his art is to Milo Manara

And damn, some of those look really great. Thanks a lot.

>>90910309
How are their art styles even remotely similar?

>>90910373
I think I made a mistake. I just typed it all those names into google for a quick glances, seems he made some collaborations with him and those were pictures that just plain were by Manara.

>>90909339
I approve this list.

>>90910424
Pratt wrote comics for Manara to draw like Indian Summer.

If you want arty stuff I'd also recommend Blutch (especially Peplum) and Lorenzo Matotti (Fires, Chimera).

>>90911214
How could I forget about Blutch from my list?

>>90909069
Requiem Vampire Knight.

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Some italian stuff:
Diabolik, Satanik, Kriminal. It's worth noting that Italy had it's own public disapproval of comics, somewhat similar regarding the situation with Dr. Fredric Wertham and 'Seduction of the Innocent '. There were concerns, because the characters were immoral, they killed (there's a scene in the first Kriminal issue where the titular character shoots a man in his hand, his heart and through his eye) and the comics featured sexual content.
Alan Ford
Zagor
Tex
Nathan Never
Martin Mystère
Dylan Dog
Ranxerox
Lo Sconisciuto

Max Bunker, Magnus, Sergio Bonelli are names to remember. Check this blog: http://sauropennacchioli.blogspot.nl to get an impression of Italy.

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The scene I mentioned

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If you like moebius' stuff I recommend the world of edena, there's also a single arzak comic released.
If you liked jodorowsky's writing there's a western comic named bouncer, it's good.
There's also a surprisingly good adaptation of "in search of los time"

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>>90911518
I'm kind of surprised that Diabolik and Kriminal haven't gotten more exposure in the west. Would love to read the original comics but I can't speak the language

>>90912083
>in the west.

Translating that from code to actual language - the US comic market is a monopoly market. They don't like stuff that they don't own in perpetuity and they don't care about end customer's whishes in the least.

>>90912326
So how come manga sells?

>>90912361
because Mangas are sooo cools not like these western comics for kids that are all the same

>>90909069
Where in can find the new metabaron 2016 scans

>>90912361
manga is tied to the fetishization of quirky foreign cultures

American peoples tend to believe that mainstream American culture is representative of all Western culture, that's why most peoples believes that "Western comics" are almost all superheroes when they only represents a minority of them or that traditional Animation is dead in the West despite the hundreds of studios in France, the UK, Ireland etc.

>>90912507
>>90912361

andrea pazienza.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Pazienza
Although I don't know how much can be found translated.
The only thing I could find was this.
http://www.fantagraphics.com/artists/andrea-pazienza/


this site has a lot of information and various drawings , if you're interested in learning more
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Pazienza

>>90909069

I've heard that Monstress is quite good.

>>90912361
Because it was a project of one of the largest comic publishers in the western world. One that easily dwarfs the US monopolists.

>>90912361
becase they have been freely availeble on the web for over ten years, thus becoming popular.
also there are cartoons of many manga that were also shown in the west

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Also all Jean Giraud's stuff

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>>90909069
Requiem Vampire Knight

>>90909104
Good luck finding that.

>>90913388
They're still in print.

It's not from the US where nothing is in print ever.

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Ayroles works (Garulfo, De Cape & de Crocs, D, 7 Missionnaires)

Marten Toonder
Joost Swarte
Peter Pontiac
Wasco

>>90913542
My point was, that there is no English print.
I read the Serbian print.

>>90912507
Case in point: >>90913484

>>90909069
Italianfag here, I'd suggest:
Hugo Pratt
Milo Manara
Dylan Dog
Tex
Zagor
Martyn Mystère
Nathan Never
Ratman (if you can find it in English)
Then, if you're into Disney shit, I suggest Renato Scarpa, Giorgio Cavezzano, PK and PK2

>>90909339
> No Magnus

you had ONE JOB anon!

>>90911518
>>Diabolik, Satanik, Kriminal. It's worth noting that Italy had it's own public disapproval of comics, somewhat similar regarding the situation with Dr. Fredric Wertham and 'Seduction of the Innocent '. There were concerns, because the characters were immoral, they killed (there's a scene in the first Kriminal issue where the titular character shoots a man in his hand, his heart and through his eye) and the comics featured sexual content.

Also, Diabolik was made by two single women(sisters) who did care little for the regular seizure of the issues caused by the conformists- think modern pseudo-feminist authors: they were the polar opposite.

Does Zerocalcare exist in english?

>>90917279
The old Diabolik stuff would still give WASPs seizures. He destroys the lifes of the people he doesn't kill without as much of a second's pause and thinks nothing of torching a couple of city blocks to cover his tail.

>>90917394
Yes! Kobane Calling is also free to download, apparently.
http://www.europecomics.com/album/kobane-calling-the-first-trip/#.WAjZ9PMheNA.facebook

>>90909069
>>90909069
Eurpean comics thread
Great!

>>90917750
he gets better once he gets Eva Kant in the bed on a regular basis.

...he still has no problem murdering and shit, just less prone to excessive use of violence.

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What by Regis Loisel is available in english and worth reading?

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>>90918180
Same question about Sergio Toppi.

>>90918135
>he gets better once he gets Eva Kant in the bed on a regular basis.

Meh, she's thirsting for him and he's basically treating her like his waifu long before they actually tie the knot.

>>90918180
You might get Peter Pan second-hand as it's prolly much out of print already.
You will probably not get The Quest for the Bird of Time second-hand because it's been out of print for 30 years.

Welcome to the US.

>>90909069
Do not trust >>90909104
Avoid Bonelli, it's mostly shit.

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>>90918710
>Avoid Bonelli, it's mostly shit.

Eh, they generally at least manage to release unoffensively mediocre comics, fun comics and enough pretty good shit. Personally I'm a big fan of Luca Enoch. His take on Buffy was clearly the better one and Lilith too became one of my favourite series within a couple of books.

Their lineup is good enough for them to have survived the coming of cable and satelite TV in an actual free international market enviroment on top of that. Can't claim any of that for Marvel and DC.

eurobump

Is there an English translation Diabolik?

>>90917903

On one hand, good, they translated a Zero book, on the other hand, bad, they picked the "worst" one. "Worst" in quotes because the book itself is perfectly fine, but being more of a reportage of his travel in the middle east is not really that funny. Mostly just sad.

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Bourgeon is great

>>90918180
Dunno for the first part, but I love all the things he did

>>90920533
A couple, the biggest batch was released back in 1999.

http://www.europeancomics.net/

>>90921072
>Bourgeon is great

He's having a real hard time drawing undeformed faced and his art took a real hit when the company making his favourite nib shut down, but I still love his combination of insane details, shitton of research and good writing.

>>90918368
Actually Titan reprinted the first 4 volumes in 2015, they said they were going to release the rest too but are apparently lying pieces of shit because we haven't seen anything since.

>>90920667
Why did Fanta stop selling this?

>>90918368
>Meh, she's thirsting for him and he's basically treating her like his waifu long before they actually tie the knot.
I don't think they ever married?
That said, it's more a matter of him being able to actually RELAX, lower his guard and be himself around Eva

>>90920783
Uh. It's just not the same once translated. Much more "sterile".
I suggests everybody to read it in Italian, if possible.

>>90918368
>You might get Peter Pan second-hand as it's prolly much out of print already.
>You will probably not get The Quest for the Bird of Time second-hand because it's been out of print for 30 years.
Seems both are readily available in my country? Which would you recommend more?

>>90923774
Never cared much for Peter Pan, but I just ordered the four original books of The Quest.

Really comes down to whether you prefer /ss/ and fucked up fairytales or redheads and dark fantasy.